University of Idaho murders: New clues into the suspect's motive
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- A suspect in the murders of four University of Idaho students more than six weeks ago has been arrested in Pennsylvania.
Arrest paperwork filed by Pennsylvania State Police in Monroe County Court says 28-year-old Bryan Kohberger was being held for extradition in a criminal homicide investigation based on an active arrest warrant for first-degree murder issued by the Moscow Police Department and Latah County Prosecutor’s Office.
The four students were all friends and members of the University of Idaho's Greek system. They were stabbed to death at a rental home near campus sometime in the early morning hours of Nov. 13.
Kohberger is listed on Washington State University's (WSU) Criminal Justice PhD program page. KREM 2 has reached out to WSU for comment but have not yet heard back.
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Why would there parents say " this is out of character for our son"?
I think most parents can say their son's don't normally commit quadruple homicides 🙄
Right??!! Very odd remark.
Good point! Maybe they don't know their son very well! 😆
What would you expect them to say, “Nothing out of the ordinary here.”
Who even verified that quote… sloppy reporting with this case seems nothing new.
Seems like a very normal response from parents about a son who had no prior record and has a Masters in CJ.
These click bait titles. There was nothing revealed in this video regarding a motive.
Exactly..... I stopped the video halfway in (definitely click bait!😡).
Ikr that's what I've been waiting to know about 😭
Oh, so you're disappointed that nothing was added to the "drama?" Boohoo. Poor you. Get over yourself. What you want to know is irrelevant.
I wish I could take my view away but sadly nope
the motive will be. a hatred toward women, and in my belief.
I m sure the parents were shocked. Can you imagine being woken up at 3am with police surrounding your home, telling you your son committed such a heinous crime
It should worry any sensible person that the media has already assumed guilt long before any evidence. The accused is INNOCENT until proven guilty in America.
This is called Trial By Media.
they knew exactly what happened,,are you kidding me
They would've been so proud of his career choice as well, and possibly sacrificed a lot for his education. It's just senseless and tragic for the victims and their families friends tutors etc 🙏💔
You don't know. The parents are partly to blame.
@@prepperjoe 100% !
He's not going to tell anyone his motive. He's going to say someone else did it.
He’ll blame Jack.
Highly likely. Let’s see what else police have on him aside from a DNA match by way of a relative.
@@brailrice 🤣
@@brailrice
*☠JACK the RIPPER☠*
I felt from the beginning that it was random and for the thrill of it. No one wants to believe that though because it frightens them. If you look into his background, motive seems to me to be he wanted to know what it was like. Some college students said he was more animated and talkative after the crime.
It sounds like all these people he knew said they weren’t really shocked, but the parents didn’t have a clue. That’s understandable. Parents don’t want to believe the worst of their kids. 😢
Well I guess that I can understand. They were sending him to college to get a career that should have helped him be on the right side of the law.
If the parents knew about it they would never be asleep with that sicko in the house. They would watch him suspiciously thinking he could turn on all of them too to avoid the trauma and anxiety.
Believe it or not, most parents don't have a clue what's going on in their childrens' minds. Period.
That's a sad disconnect.
True, but even when they do, there’s often a generous amount of denial going on. I’m not at all suggesting these parents knew anything, but am aware of how often denials is in play.
True for many but maybe not most. I am and have always been close with my sons and we both know how each other's heads work.
@@moseymay1772 My daughter, too. It's called paying attention to your kids as they grow and be in their lives to ask questions. No, no one will know everything about any family member but if we pay attention we'll know when behavior is off.
Ok but his dad flew out to drive back in his white 2013 Hyundai? The whole world knew they were looking for one in the area? Come on ...4 murders and your son lives 10 miles away. Owns the exact same car. All the sudden wants to come home. U know they called him about it. Bullcrap. I'd turn my son in myself...I'd say hey my kids got that car...
My guess is that he hit on one of those 3 young beautiful women, got rejected, it hurt his feelings, and thought he could pull off the "perfect crime" because he studied criminal justice and was fascinated by it. Didn't think he would be caught on a gas station security camera leaving the crime scene. I hope he gets what's coming to him and the families get some kind of closure.
I think that he assumed that the male friend was gettin' all 3 of those women, and once rejected by one or more of them, couldn't handle it and snapped.
I believe similar as shankroidbeast4644, that he was challenged to get away with it, or wanted to experience the feelings of such crime. Unless OJ did it.....just where was OJ that day????
I am going wildcard here and saying I smell a shim!
Too much being asked Why? He's just a killer. Loved to kill. Bold.
That gas station cam showing a white Elantra is not solid evidence.. it doesn’t tie him to the crime. It’s a public road, many cars prob out, especially in a college town on a late-Saturday night / early-Sunday
The "why' and "how" he was able to pull off these murders is puzzling. I really hope they have good evidence, cause they're going to need it.
Don't need a why. It's almost funny!
Clearly he wasn’t able to pull it off if he’s arrested n caught
I don’t think the how is that puzzling. Inebriated kids sleeping or at least horizontal in bed. Large knife will disable them very quickly and I cannot imagine screaming because it’s impossible with a punctured lung or heart or throat or thorax etc. and also overwhelming shock and fright.
He was able to pull off the murders, the poor kids are dead. He just didn’t pull off getting away with it.
The Sheriff is so confident, all I can think is they must have blood evidence. Which is indisputable.
So tragic. This is NOT even a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
it's been reviled kaylee knew Bryan kohberger they had pictures of each other on the phones and phone numbers but kaylee kept it secret from hear family and friends
🙂 If he keeps his mouth shut, and has a really great lawyer such as those who defend ed O.J Simpson, he will get off
@@user-zx6lf5so4w unlikely his dna is all over the place
True so premeditated
@@davis70140 Oh really? I WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFORMATION FROM? SOUNDS LIKE TOTAL BS.
This is so, so sad. Poor kids had terrible deaths. They probably thought they were dreaming at first, and when they realized they weren’t, they probably couldn’t even catch their breath.
Always heavily block your doors. and especially your bedroom at night, with weapons to protect yourselves. No knives on kitchen cabinets.
@@judithgrace9850 Even the most protected people can be gotten to, but I agree with your advice. Stacking the odds in one's favor should be second nature.
So what do you do on your weekends?
Why do all you sheep keep coming back to these fake news channels to wallow in this sht? Its unhealthy. A perversion.
@@judithgrace9850 seriously he had the knife he wanted to use
I am very sad for these four young beautiful students, and their families.
Would you be sad if they were old and ugly??? Such a stupid comment!!! Seems like the media only value “certain” lives!!! WHY TF is the Chief crying???? HIGHLY doubt he would if they were all black students. The freeking hypocrisy in this country is DISGUSTING!!!!
I can't imagine the terror waking up to being stabbed.
God bless these officers that have to deal with these tragedies and of course the family of the loss of children.
My condolences to all the families involved. You are all in my prayers.
He has probably played with people his whole life! He wants to write a book! He's proud of himself. He's now in the spotlight and will be remembered! Feel so bad for the parents of the victims. They will never feel right again.
How the f*ck would you know what he's probably done? How do you think that you can even speculate about how he feels? You know nothing. Zero. That's what you know. Zero. And zero is how much your guessing and speculation matter. Zero.
It's all good 👍. They with sweet zombie 🧟♂️ jesus in the clouds ⛅️ now. 😶
He'll have to sign over his life rights for the lawsuit settlement. Hes not getting sh't. Not even cominsary. Hope the CEO's throw out all his fan mail too. I would
@@jaymesninsadly he’s already got a bunch of fans 🤦🏽♀️
it's been reviled kaylee knew Bryan kohberger they had pictures of each other on the phones and phone numbers but kaylee kept it secret from hear family and friends
Police aren't telling you everything they have on him. They're certain. Can't wait to hear the final story when this comes out. This guy has been caught. Hope the families can get atleast some closure.
Me too
In spontaneous killings were involved drugs. They were doing something together (DNA samples found), then there was a conflict between them. Then victims went to sleep. 15-20 min needed to fall asleep. So he probably stays in the kitchen and lost his mind. Then took a kitchen knife and stubbed them. 2 - probably involved in dispute, 2 were witnesses. To kill without noise and fight he need to cut their throats, for that he needed sharp and long knife.
@@andreychizov8201 lol
He spent months interviewing convicts about how they felt when they were committing their crimes. The suspect got to "Feel What It Feels Like To Be A Serial Killer" the moment his blade pierced the second victim. He believed from his research that he would get away with the murders.
His pasts posts on a health forum from 2011 tells how he had "visual snow", depression, and felt like he had no feelings at all. The posts are very revealing of a very disturbed teenager who was probably misdiagnosed and given the wrong meds because he said one prescription "made him insane".
thoughts and prayers to all the jacks that being accused as murderer by couch detectives
indeed
I hope the jacks and jake write books, speak on this horrid crime, and turn it into something good for the world.
...I still think Jack Nicholson had something to do with these murders
Yeah they never even mentioned the closeted gays being exposed theory
he got a public defender , hes screwed
What was his motive to kill four people? The world we live in has truly become dark and dreary. May the souls of the 4 innocent people rest in peace. My condolences to their family and friends.
May justice be done to avenge their senseless killings.
Narcissists have no conscious feel entitled and think they will get away w things, they live risky lives, and care about no one but themselves. Empty shells...can feel zero empathy. No one has feelings, or meaning.
It's been that way
In spontaneous killings were involved drugs. They were doing something together (DNA samples found), then there was a conflict between them. Then victims went to sleep. 15-20 min needed to fall asleep. So he probably stays in the kitchen and lost his mind. Then took a kitchen knife and stubbed them. 2 - probably involved in dispute, 2 were witnesses. To kill without noise and fight he need to cut their throats, for that he needed sharp and long knife.
Yeap drugs was involved I bet
Agree. Hearts go out to the families and victims. My guess is he had a romantic interest in one of the girls or run in with them. Who knows but it feels he targeted them.
Hes shocked because he thought himself too smart to get caught
Just imagine that 3am arrival of police at Mom & Dad's house, eh? Think about the police who had been surveiling him on his cross-country drive. "Do we come down the chimney like Santy Claus and ruin their Christmas? Or wait a few days to make sure that he's given whatever trophy he took to whoever he was giving it to?" Well... either way - this will be a Christmas the family may long remember.
Killing 4 people in one night is out of chatacter for their son. Ooookay.
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It is extremely rare for somebody to murder four people in one night.
@@bmoshareholderappleshareho855 whereas killing just one per evening would be the usual night on the town?
One would hope this is out of character for every single person.
Was out of character for Ted bundy and Chris watts too!! Omg most abusive people seem nice or quiet
Yeppers! The parents usually don't see that something happened to this kid in childhood that needed attention.
@@mollybrownuptown5849 well, in the case of chris watts, if you look at his mother you know where he got it from...
Most abusive people can be anyone, quiet or loud.
@@lilg2300 Exactly! And Bundy didn't even know who he really was because of his mother and grandparents. Some believe he was inbred.
@@mollybrownuptown5849 I want to point out that many parents and/or other adults are the MAIN cause of children's issues in the first place though, due to physical and/or sexual abuse and other types, which is often the result of their own unhealed childhood trauma. 🙁
The reality is these psychos are always the most boring people and his motive was most likely that he “just wanted to know how it felt.”
Like that lone weirdo who killed many from the Las Vegas hotel some years back.
First thing I thought of, like in Crime and Punishment.
Reality is we dont know
it's been reviled kaylee knew Bryan kohberger they had pictures of each other on the phones and phone numbers but kaylee kept it secret from hear family and friends
True by his arrogant mug shot he likes the attention of his despicable crime can't wait to tell tell the how and why it but in a long drawn out trial
Kohberger, said something very interesting while in custody. He asked, "has anyone else been arrested"?! That's what John Wayne Gacy asked, I believe. This guy wanted to experience what he had studied in criminal psychology!
The motive sounds desperate and very far fetched but anything is possible. I personally think that law enforcement has gotten lots of political scrutiny about this case, and the economy near the crime scene has suffered, so they had to charge someone. I pray justice is executed and that the police arrested the right person (s). I don’t know if this area has illegal immigration issues, but all cities should invest in video cameras in case this person or people are still on the loose.
In spontaneous killings were involved drugs. They were doing something together (DNA samples found), then there was a conflict between them. Then victims went to sleep. 15-20 min needed to fall asleep. So he probably stays in the kitchen and lost his mind. Then took a kitchen knife and stubbed them. 2 - probably involved in dispute, 2 were witnesses. To kill without noise and fight he need to cut their throats, for that he needed sharp and long knife.
I don't have any doubts either. If you've just had your door kicked down at 3 am, and have been accused of murdering 4 people, and you Didn't do it, you are NOT going to look Calm, smug, and cocky in your mugshot. You're going to be scared shitless, probably crying, and certaintly not in a partial Grin
You’re so right! To treat this situation as a laughing matter means you are guilty IMO. An innocent person would not be amused and would be screaming their heads off. 😐
If you are innocent, you certainly wouldn't be looking all proud in your mug shot.
He was also "shocked" to hear he was creeping women out at local bar to the point the manager had to talk to him, being shocked seems to be tactic of his
I read from an aspie friend of his that he recognized his awkward behavior. Such an irony, he has a sister who is a mental health specialist
Oh yea!! Good call there connecting that. Very true.
Shouldn't the title of this video be "No clues into the suspect's motive, but we need clickbait to get you to watch it."
Why would the public defender say no he didn’t kill them when he didn’t even ask a question?
My thoughts exactly. I found that very strange.
What else should his defender say, “yeah, sure this dude is guilty as hell”? Makes no sense to pick apart a two sentence quote from a public defender that’s not going to see him ever again. 😂
The defender intentionally did not ask him whether he did it because he doesn't want to know. If the defender knows for a fact that he did it, the defender cannot lie and say he didn't. (Legally, lawyers aren't supposed to tell blatant lies in court, they could be disbarred). In order for the defender to say he did not do it, he's better off not asking directly and just looking at the evidence to see how he can argue innocence.
@@jaxsmith1204 Thank you for your kind reply.
As defense counsel, he's seen the evidence supporting the arrest warrant along with extradition. What he saw may not have looked like a convincing argument that his client was involved in the crime. Hence his "as of now" disclaimer (edit:) could be interpreted as "with what I've seen so far..."
He probably had a crush on one of the girls! And she turned him down without realizing that he was a lunatic! He could have been a client at the restaurant she worked at…😢
He is gay
@@BD-cm7xc wow really?
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In spontaneous killings were involved drugs. They were doing something together (DNA samples found), then there was a conflict between them. Then victims went to sleep. 15-20 min needed to fall asleep. So he probably stays in the kitchen and lost his mind. Then took a kitchen knife and stubbed them. 2 - probably involved in dispute, 2 were witnesses. To kill without noise and fight he need to cut their throats, for that he needed sharp and long knife.
I think it's very likely he knew the two girls from the restaurant they worked at, the Mad Greek. Kohberger is a strict vegan and the Mad Greek has specific vegetarian/vegan dishes on their menu.
Been glued to this case from Day 1. It's also been an extremely interesting study on the current trend of "web sleuthing". In this climate of popular true crime media, everyone wanted to be an armchair detective. Some of the theories were absolutely wild. I watched so many individuals convince themselves with 100% certainty they cracked the case, with a suspect to point the finger at, name and shame. Of course, predictably they've all went completely silent now - proving that in the end they did very little more than obstruct the course of justice within the official investigation. Sure, some people uncovered tips, but those tips should remain just that; potential clues to be passed on to the official authorities. Again, it has proven to leave it to the professionals. Everyone was joining some pretty wild dots up, while I was aware that investigators were sifting through tons of forensic evidence, and keeping their findings close to their chest in order to preserve the purity of the investigation. It's ridiculous that people convicted others in their own mind, via using a computer screen, when they knew fine well that laboratories where running tests on DNA, prints and other physical evidence. That shows astounding arrogance. So sorry to see how many people found entertainment through these tragic deaths, while simultaneously putting extra pressure and stress on the lives of the authorities who worked hard on this case, while also sullying their names and the names of those they wrongly named and shamed online.
So true
I'm not a web sleuth but I'm not stupid. I never named anyone because the info was all over the place. However, I did....and still do believe....that there's some "arranging" and hiding of things to make this story seem a certain way. I believe LE in some way is part of it in that town. I believe the surviving roommates know way more than their alleged sleep story tells us. And I believe there are students and friends who were with those victims that know about what really went on behind-the-scenes of that house but were told to be quiet.
Agreed 👍
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@@sjg5994 The conspiracy theory is always much, much more exciting. Run with that if you want. I'll simply wait to see how it plays out in court before I make any hugely premature assumptions like that. Just like the armchair detectives at the start of this case, there's a whole bunch of egotistical onlookers out there who fantasise about being the one who gets to say "SEE! I told you I was on to something, I knew there was a big cover up. I said so!". I hope that works out for you and you get your kick, from your prediction. In reality, its based upon absolutely nothing but conjecture. The officials know way more about this case than you do, for good reason - and its going to play out in court.
What I have seen in the past that most murderers will act innocent even when they’re definitely not. This fella had a masters in criminal justice so he pretty much knows the ins and outs of what to do and try to not get caught.
I am so glad that you got him!
Best wishes of healing from Uruguay
Title: new clues into suspect's motive
Video: has nothing to do with suspect's motive
Yeah I can’t tell you enough how much I respect James fry. Many of us can’t think right off hand what makes us emotionally attached to this situation. These kids, that house and the murderer are an ensemble of many common Americans lives. Many people felt a familiarity and nostalgia towards several aspects of the case. For example, me I’m studying real estate, and have taken architecture classes, that house stood out to me, I pledged sigma chi, that stood out to me, I’ve watch many similar horror films and have been a film student myself and this one matched those horror movies, even the color of the house and it’s building style, many of the students reminded me of someone I met in college or when pledging the fraternity, and many of us can relate to our dreams and goals being disrupted and cut short by a malicious person or experience. The list goes on at how surreal the situation is, and you could easily detect the stirring emotions in the victims families, and the police and their desperation for information. I think everyone was on the same page which caused an unusual uptick in online sleuthing. I love how the police didn’t give up, and I’m curious as to how much evidence was Steve goncalves private investigator and attorney able to contribute to help identify a suspect. People knew deep down this was a serial killer on his first kill. That’s what scared everyone. This is terrorism. That small ass police department was like the police in the movies except they never became victims they only got better at being hero’s. They deserve an award from the president but I doubt he will do it. And take initiative to help improve peoples public perception of how police should approach things. Thanks again James fry for being a cinematic police officer. He took our criticism with a grain of salt and maintained public confidence.
it's been reviled kaylee knew Bryan kohberger they had pictures of each other on the phones and phone numbers but kaylee kept it secret from hear family and friends
@@davis70140 creepy hope to see when that gets confirmed
@@cjackson11 January 3rd they said on the news
"Web sleuths" almost ruined this investigation with their obstructive wild theories and false suspects. I am seeing a lot of these posts all of a sudden, showing much love for James Fry. Pity no one was there to give it to him while he was busting his ass on the case - instead of making his already living nightmare even more stressful. This has proven more than ever that in future these kinds of major investigations have to remain closed off to the public as much as possible until the solid official identification of a suspect has been put out by the authorities themselves.
I agree a form of terrorism. Hit home with me a bit too as I live in Idaho half day drive and was spooked, its the thing nightmares are made of. I found it ironic and disturbing how so many thought to accuse the ones that were just by association, shows narrow thinking process and a lack of compassion/respect for others.
THE PARENTS WILL ALWAYS SAY IT'S OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THEIR CHILD, THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY GOING TO THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS THOUGH RIGHT?
No parents want to believe their kid is a killer.
It is incredibly hard to see an act if this is how your close relative always acts.
This is why we need OLD SPARKY back for people like this.
It hasn't been proven in a court of law he's involved yet
Hell yes! I think here in fl bundy was the last to get the taste of old sparky.
This baby boomer says: u sheep don't have the stomach for old sparky burnt flesh details! Ya pussies go the route of the dog killer way! Which now mostly somehow fails quickly, no pain! So not even the death penalty where sirhan sirhan had a new yr steak dinner last nite for new yrs eve!!
@Ant Thay don't have OLD SPARKY, so your comment makes no sense.
Thank you to all the officers who work hard everyday to keep us safe....I appreciate you all.
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This killer could have became a Police officer he has degrees in criminal justice ⚖️
Still a suspect, not convicted.
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My god give it a rest. It wasnt the ex. Let jt go
That's true @chrissiebabe234
Good point!
"innocent until proven guilty ..... beyond a reasonable doubt"
If he is the murderer, as it seems,
I hope that nobody compromises the process (resulting in a false aquittal)
Not convicted true. But the cops wouldn't outright arrest and charge him with all four's murder if they didn't have some solid proof on them. They have to have something that makes them confident enough to arrest him. Remember they only got one try at court. I think it could be the killer's blood somehow mixed with the blood of the victims, that way he couldn't possibly identify nor clean it
@@user-hf7kj9dp1f It wouldn't be the first time law enforcement got tunnelvision on someone with a decent circumstantial case against them and made an arrest only to be wrong in the end. Especially when being as heavily pressured for results by the public as this department has been. Hopefully this is the guy but something just doesn't seem right about how all of this has gone down.
I wonder if he felt he would get away with it due to his high level intelligence? Even now it sounds how relaxed and in control he appears... It is so shocking and those poor students. Justice will be served.
At this point, I think the only person who thinks this guy was intelligent, is him
He has the smirking narcisist arrogance many murderers start with.
This is how Ted Bundy acted when he was arrested.
It sounds like his act of his being in "total shock" and "confused" is something he used in the past at the brewery in PA where he was allegedly aggressive and creepy towards female patrons and employees. When his past behavoir was addressed by the brewery owner, he acted shocked and told him he was confused. Then when he was arrested he acted shocked and confused again. Unless he truly has split personalities, it sounds like a great way to set up an insanity plea. Hope not, but it really seems like things could go that direction.
He went to WSU for criminal justice. Not THAT intelligent
got my DNA done when I heard about all the cold cases being solved because you just never know.
isn't that snitching on relatives?
I got my dogs dna done, so I guess if any of his relatives commit a crime, I helped out in some small way.
When there's a stabbing, it's often sexually motivated.
Your sexuallly motivated
Eh I wouldn't say often. Clearly this was not sexual as far as we know. Could he have had sexual arousal after the fact? Maybe. We just don't know. He used a knife because it's a quiet weapon in this case.
Source?
He was following one (or more maybe) on social media. He was also at the bar that night (I read) and approached the girls multiple times and they had him kicked out. So maybe sexually denied?
@@carlaamanda86 That's what I was thinking.
So he kept going to classes? No cuts, bruises, wear and tear from a vicious murder? Interesting.
i have a weird theory. i read that he had ocd. seems like he chose the house because its number is 1122. the kids all died november 2022 (11/22) his upcoming birthday was 11/21/22. mix the two middle numbers on the house and you can see his birthday. also i believe he intended to kill them on 11/12/22. mix the two middle numbers and its his birthday. i know im probably way off but its a lot of those numbers to be just a coincidence in my opinion.
Nov 12 was Charles Mansons birthday. Who knows if that's a genuine connection but seriously odd.
yeah bro, you should totally call that theory into the tip line,.... LOL
@@kstkst395 Fact's
@UCu2b6JG0WPlgnWhnmbhskJg The House number is definitely significant. I am not sure how at this stage , and it doesn't actually matter, but those numbers are no coincidence!
Edit: What on earth is going on with the name I'm trying to reply to?
Ok...this is getting weird
What a sicko if that's the case. Must be some satanic ritual.
This guy is already saying he is innocent and he will clear his name and be back home with his family. We are not going to learn anything from him. The poor families of the victims and his family are going to have to be dragged though a trial! My heart goes out to the families!
You're right I just hope they have the right person
"Did he kill these four people?"
"I would say at this point, no, but he did not specifically say that, nor did I ask that question."
Totally not judging Kohberger either way, but dude needs a new lawyer, lol. I really hope he keeps this one though.
He will get a new lawyer in Idaho practising in that state. The current one only practices in Pennsylvania.
He did not ask that question because if he did and was answered yes h could not represent him
His motive was power and control.He wanted to out smart everybody and that gave him a feeling that he is better than everybody else .He is an insecure narcissist with low self esteem that was bullied,he was also jealous of them.
Precisely what I think! These very pretty sorority girls were every girl that had turned him down in his past and present. When he came across Ethan and likely to his surprise, he had no problem taking out a handsome frat guy with a pretty GF as well. You can tell this guy wanted a normal social life based on what has been reported by past friends, past peers, and other acquaintances. He was in a frat in PA at his last college, but I bet he still couldn't get a girl. And what frat guy can't get at least one girl?
Let’s say I was arrested for a crime I didn’t commit, and cops and analysts and news reporters were all saying I was the one, I wouldn’t get a fair trial as an innocent until proven guilty individual. I’m not saying he’s innocent, I’m saying it’s gonna be hard to find an unbiased jury.
I think if he was not caught he would have continued on.
Definitely also did he murder before a question no one seems to be asking I recall what these murders were reported a newscaster mentioned a nearby unsolved murder case a couple of weeks before
Perhaps there are other victim(s)?
@@cherylharrison3789 I think its possible
I guess this guy is shocked he was arrested…. while people are shocked at such a heinous crime committed against four young students! His parents probably are very shocked since their son apparently appeared normal regarding the murders. LE seems very certain about the suspect arrested and I feel confident they arrested the correct suspect. His DNA was tell the story. Very sad 😞.
Although highly educated in studies (Associates degree in Psychology and CJ Bachelor arts / Masters, He is not a candidate for the doctoral program, he was in his first semester at the time of his arrest. In order to be a candidate for the doctoral program students have to complete the full semester and have complete dissertation in order to become a doctoral candidate.
A candidate is normally someone who is working on the dissertation (ie this is where ABD comes from), but exactly correct. One semester of phd studies does not make a phd. 🙂
Could this mean his (unknown) dissertation work is his manifesto?
@@mgm153 Yes, he would have had a long haul before being granted a Ph.D. His career chances don't look very promising now. haha.
What you are talking about is "advancement to candidacy". He had not reached that stage, but because he was in the program and already had a Master's, he would be considered as someone going for a Ph.d.
Literally just so crazy to imagine one so thin, frail man could do so much physical damage. I hope they have the right guy & if there were others I pray they are able to identify them. Super freaking sad. Pray justice is served
Rumor has it he prays to slender man
He is pretty slim but not frail and relatively tall
Kohberger can give this some thought: Idaho has the death penalty. DNA evidence? How does Kohberger's DNA get in the house? He might start thinking about a plea deal. Life for a guilty plea or face a possible execution?
Texas executes the most Prisoners.
If was a visitor
Where did they get a sample of his DNA to compare with whatever may have been found at the scene in order to know it was his to begin with? If they had enough evidence to justify ruling out any other suspects and tracking his movements, why didn't they make an arrest prior to his leaving for his parents place for the holidays? If they had enough evidence to distinguish his white elantra from the (at least) 90 others owned in the area, why no APB that included specific identifying properties? Those are just a few of many questions that need to be answered before pinning the blame on the suspect they arrested. Hopefully this is the guy but law enforcement's behavior during this investigation just comes across as very odd.
@@possumverde My understanding is that the DNA link is through familial DNA. The authorities will soon determine his own DNA directly from him. There is no Fifth Amendment right to refuse finger prints, a blood sample, or DNA samples. The Fifth Amendment only applies to communicative evidence, such as testimony. These tests are considered non-testimonial.
@@possumverde We've seen enough Dateline to know this. Follow him to a McDonalds and grab a cup with a straw he throws away. They could have been following him for weeks for all we know. LE waited as long as necessary to have the evidence to convict that guy, it takes how long it takes.
Is it just me or why is a guy 28 years old, still in school ? That's presumably 10 years of college. That, in & of itself, is a red flag. It's not like he was studying to be a medical Dr.
I wonder if they planned to go arrest him at 3:00 a.m. like he did those girls
Wow
i think they did that because most people are at their most defenceless in the middle of the night so the arrest would be easier
True I just overthink lol
@@tyeishajones6357so yeah like he did those girls... defenseless at that time.
Didn’t even think of that. Good catch.
Moral decay threatens humanity's very existence.
Evil has increased the time is short little children
it's been reviled kaylee knew Bryan kohberger they had pictures of each other on the phones and phone numbers but kaylee kept it secret from hear family and friends
Talk to white liberals about that
@@davis70140 Cite your source.
He wasn't shocked about his arrest, don't believe anything he or his lawyer says, the cops following him around saw him wearing gloves in grocery stores and bathrooms, dude knew exactly what he was doing, and that he was being followed for the last four days.
Do I believe he's innocent, yes. I mean do I believe he's guilty, yes. He might be innocent I don't accept everything that comes out of the police's mouth. They lie so much. But he's probably guilty. But I wouldn't be a absolutely stunned if he turned out to be innocent
There are some people that can be quite convincing...for awhile.
Some will lie, and even " believe" their own lies. But after fact checked, and who (in a family or friends) does that?
It's impolite. 🤔
But once you realize how delusional someone is, with proof, it can be both heartbreaking and scary. They can ruin lives with their lies.
And if drug related or otherwise, one needs to change the relationship, if any. Immediate family should not do this alone. Seek help.
Don't just cover for their dysfunctions.
It can entrap you in the long run. Imo
This is a learning experience.
It's also a sad one for his family, IF he's guilty, that is.
Thank God we have good hard- working cops and YES, criminologists, and a hope for justice.
Focus on that.
🙏
Love wins.
Well cops are not allowed to follow you just because...they would be violating a normal citizens right....
@@lilsamantha1 of course we know that whenever cops violate people's rights they're always held accountable. LOL
@@onewildandcrazyguy9213 so if the cops have to be dirty like that, what makes u think they have the right guy and arent just putting him forward because they feel the pressure
1. Bryan googles vegan restaurants near me
2. Bryan goes to Mad Greek
3. Bryan feels rejected by his waitress
4. Bryan plans for revenge
This chief looks so kind
So what’s the relation between the girls and his sister? I feel like this is the missing connection.
His dad said that it was out of character for his son. A knife? Dad said! No my son always uses a gun!!!
If he didn’t do it how come he didn’t bring himself & his Elantra forward ? How come his parents ,family & friends didn’t say anything to the cops about him and his Elantra considering he was in the area at the time of the murders. They really need to start charging family members as an accomplice to crime . If he didn’t do it if it’s sooo out of character then why didn’t his parents push him to go see the Idaho police with his Elantra to help narrow there search down hmm ??. Makes me think they’re in on it too .. Lock em all up a family of psychotic pathological liars
I agree 👍
How do you know one didn't? What if Mom saw the news , put 2 & 2 together and saw a way to flush a turd out of her hair? Or one of his aunts or uncles? Maybe Dad did while on a bathroom break on their long drive home. Better that he get arrested without warning while sleeping his baby @ss off than going on a rampage on the run, killing cops and innnocents.
@@traumajock they’ve already made statements nothing was mentioned . & if the arrest was made due to a family member that kind of information would have been publicly released or at the least it would have leaked. They are protecting him that’s why dad drove back with him he knew there time together was coming to an end. They are guilty . I’m not saying they were necessarily involved in the crime but they definitely suspected their son of committing the murder and that in itself is withholding information protecting a criminal.
Why would someoen "innocent" bring themselves forward...😂😂😂
@@vincevincent6984 I never heard the dad drove back with him. How did the dad get to Moscow without his car? Maybe he flew in and drove back together?
Motive I think he meet these women from the Vegan restaurant and somehow they Dissed him or rejected him and he was so angry he killed them and especially the one girl due her injuries > I think they have the right guy as the Sheriff said .
The girls weren't vegan
@@starcatcher3691 I read that a couple of the girls worked there.
I read he was at the bar that night with the 2 girls. He approached them multiple times and they had him kicked out. And he had been following them through social media as well. So probably liked one of them and got rejected one too many times.
@@starcatcher3691 Well 2 of the girls worked at the Vegan place . From what I read .
@@lassiejr2115 ...Maddie and Xana. We also know Mads had a mean streak and was known to be a bully and obnoxious.
I was surprised to read that Bryans Father went out to Idaho, and they drove back to PA together.
wow!
? Source?
single- shut up, nobody has said that.
@@ThirstyEye His Attorney Jason LaBar did
It's on the NY Post
Makes me nervous when the sheriff is itching to tell us about evidence.
I don’t know how you got that out of what the Sheriff said and how he spoke.
@@kit3843 If you've followed the case at all, you would know the Chief is DYING to tell us information but legally can't. It's eating him up inside.
Where are you getting "itching?" Do you know the sheriff? Did he TELL you that he's itching to reveal things? What the hell do YOU know?
Im itchy too now that u mention it. Its so dry this time of year.
@@TheVeek192 Yeah he's my uncle!!!
Dad picks him up for a 2500 mile trip:
Dad: "Hey son, how was the school year?"
Bryan: "Well....ummm..."
The father said, he wasn't to sure if the FBI picked the right person. WTF......
Glad chief of Moscow is sure he is the one who committed these murders.
The fbi did the work
The suspect fits the weird loner profile.......he is already convicted in the court of public opinion....good luck getting a fair trial in Gomerville.
What kind of defense lawyer doesn’t ask that question 😂
They invariably ask that, like it's a big mystery in every case. I think the motive is always to feel supremely powerful in one way or another ..
Because he wanted to, could, and did.
God be with these investigators and keep this subject off streets.thoze 4 young people need justice and their families answers.
Its hard to believe one man could stab 4 adults to death alone
But most of all, to walk away from the scene without a scratch or anything on his body. These were young people not senior citizens. How was he able to do all that and the other two students in the house not hear anything- didn’t they hear a struggle, scuffling or anything? How was Bryan able to enter the house- no forced entry. Did someone let him in?
I'm wondering if he had taken drugs, like speed, meth, etc. before hand to give him extra strength.
If they were intoxicated he could easily kill them. They would be "off balance" and helpless. ( Just saying)
Wow, I see here, you all have convicted this dude, I thought he was just a suspect ~
Forgive me for saying this but the murders may have been "research" for graduate thesis. He is a cruel sick person.
dissertation
You don't need to be forgiven. Many people agree with you.
God bless this cop/fbi he needs a raise. I think every cop should be like this!!!
I have an apprentice at work that is socially awkward,he fully admits to it,and describes his parents the same,as this story unfolds,we will see this guy's parents being the same way,I think there is a story of rejection/humiliation that will come out,as far as how he proclaims his innocence,thats what someone's first reaction is going to be when arrested for a brutal crime in front of their parents,law enforcement didn't draw his name out of a hat,what's amazing is him keeping the car,that's another level of arrogance or stupidity
His parents filed for bankruptcy twice. Family was obvious struggling.
Yes, but I believe it was confirmed yesterday that the Elantra was in his dads name, so his initial mistake was using his dads car to commit a quadruple homicide, if, they do in fact have the right guy.
It is also kind of pathetic that he didn't have his own car at 28yo. Perhaps he was a sheltered, mama's boy as well.
Finally a well produced news report with some actual facts instead of hysteria and speculation.
His motive is obvious. He wanted to be the Best Murderer, and get the highest grade.
I'm sorry he need to be treated like he is a suspect and Innocent of the crime until Proven guilty. It's kind of the LAW. You people have him convicted by public opinion. It's not like the cops have EVER been wrong before. It's not like we don't see people every month get their conviction reversed because THEY WERE INNOCENT. We need to stop the rush to judgement and let him have his say and day in court. If he is guilty, then to the Chair he goes, but if he is innocent, why destroy his life?
agreed. They're way too many judge, jury, and executioners here in the comment section. Presumption of innocence is the cornerstone of American law.
I agree and you would serve on the jury well!
@@mangafq8 One of the greatest Honors and Privilege's we have as Americans.
Until we see the release of this information, and the evidence that places him in the scene. He’s still a suspect I have no doubt that they must have compelling evidence
I also read somewhere they have him on footage at the bar with the 2 women. He approached them multiple times that night and they ended up having him kicked out. That (to me) screams I’ve been rejected one too many times motive. Or he just thought he could get away with the perfect murder. He was only visiting his sister in Idaho. He was back in PA thinking he was safe and sound. Idiot. Shouldn’t have drove by the crime scene multiple times to add to it. I think he did it.
@@robertprediger3491 The cell phone location evidence wouldn't be accurate enough to be convincing evidence. The accuracy of that method varies from ~500m to ~1500m based on local cell tower density. Looking at said density in the area of the crime, it is well on the low end which would mean less accuracy. They might be able to put him within 3/4 of a mile of the crime that way. Close, but not close enough to be comfortable making it a strong part of the case.
The DNA claim is a bit sus as well. If they knew it was his prior to arresting him, where did they get the sample to compare it to? If they didn't know, how did they get an arrest warrant? They may have the right person but law enforcement's story just doesn't make a lot of sense when compared to their behavior during the investigation.
I don't doubt it either but I wouldn't be 100% shocked if they got the wrong guy. I'm not just going to blindly and uncritically accept what the police say. There's been many cases where an innocent guy was arrested and there was very strong evidence of guilt or there wasn't strong evidence of guilt with the police presented it that way to the public
@@robertprediger3491 the police claim they have DNA evidence of him at the crime scene and other evidence. It's probably true but I don't 100% trust the police. There are cases of innocent people arrested with very strong evidence against them or they didn't have strong evidence against them but the police made it seem that way when they argue their case to the public
@@carlaamanda86 he probably did do it but there are weird cases of somebody who's 100% innocent of serious crimes and they were made to look guilty by the police. Sometimes there was coincidentally very strong evidence against them sometimes the police prosecutors lie and engage in unethical conduct to make an innocent man look guilty. Do I think that's what happened here probably not but I'm not going to 100% rule it out
The lawyer didn’t “ask that question” because he knows that Kohberger committed the murders.
So what were the new clues?? Come on... stick with your titles. Disgusting to milk views/money from this horrible story, 4 people dead!
This was "Out of character for their son" HUH?! So you mean he'd normally wouldn't get caught? Very strange thing to say
Nobody think their child can do something like this..
Right? Not he’s innocent! Or he couldn’t have done this! It’s “out of character”. Friggen weird!
The Sheriff is so confident, all I can think is they must have blood evidence. Which is indisputable.
They matched his dna to his uncle's dna who is in prison.
Could be blood, skin or hair..
It's not indisputable. I've seen a movie all about that... EyeGor goes into the Brain Depository ("If after 5pm, slip brains thru slot in door") and drops Hans Delbrook's jar, and decides to take Abby Normal's instead. It's not indisputable. Hollywood couldn't make films if they weren't complete truthful.
If they found the victim's blood in his car, that is irrefutable.
@@steverockwell5074 is that true? his uncle is in prison?
Sad and senseless loss for these four families, and the Kohberger family, as well. Can you imagine your son coming home for Christmas and all this going down? The neighbors say the Kohberger parents are kind, hardworking people.
No one wins here. It's just utterly tragic. Maybe the parents of the four students will find some closure, although their pain will never go away.
True his family are victims
Of course it's out of character they wouldn't say yeah this is normal of him he goes around stabbing people
I read his classmates avoided him because he was a homophobe. I think he saw those women in public.
Even people who have murdered someone could say this would be out of character for them. He stabbed 4 people to death. Even amongst killers, that's not normal
I dont understand how he did 4 murders by himself by stabbing
I felt from the beginning that it was random and for the thrill of it. No one wants to believe that though because it frightens them. If you look into his background, motive seems to me to be he wanted to know what it was like. Some college students said he was more animated and talkative after the crime.
I tend to agree with this. I also think he wanted to see if he could get away with it. It sounds like he has an intelligence complex and thought he could outsmart the police.
He doesn't fit the incel mould imo. They tend to be a lot younger, not very educated, and don't look after themselves. I know dude did drugs, but he is clean shaven and obviously physically fit.
Thrill kill makes way more sense to me than incel, or rejected by one of the girls.
I don't think it was random. Kaylee's father said he sees some connections.
No 👎! He told me he planned it. 🤫 😶
it's been reviled kaylee knew Bryan kohberger they had pictures of each other on the phones and phone numbers but kaylee kept it secret from hear family and friends
I’m sure he liked her and she brushed him off
“Did he kill them?”
“I would say at this point no”
That means yes. If you’re innocent, you’re desperate to deny the crime and proclaim your innocence every single chance you get. You aren’t waiting and leaving things up to chance or interpretation.
YOU SIR ARE A MORON
Death penalty. He's guilty. He's DNA was found at the crime scene and he didn't ask why he was being arrested. He asked if anyone else had been arrested.
Why is the news reporter trying to camouflage her arms 2:40 😂😂
Chronic cruel bullying of a child really messes the child up. Their brain doesn't get to develop normally, and we get sociopaths like this in our society.
I agree! Thinking back to the Uvalde shooter who had just turned 18yo, he was bullied as a kid. I recall him being teased for his clothing. It was very telling to me that when he decied to shoot up an elementary school he chose the one his grandmother use to work at (who he seemed to be having issues with given he shot her in the head), and also, his cholce to specifically shoot up mostly the 4th grade classes, which as it was revelaed later, was the grade level when the bullying began for him. I think something similar has occurred here as we have heard that BCK was bullied and turned down by girls in high school, he was socially awkward, and didn't fit in. Although this has not been confirmed by LE yet, it appears to be coming from valid sources. Although no amount of bullying, abuse, or neglect could ever excuse what the Uvalde shooter did - he should have sought out help instead, and the same goes for this guy, IF in fact they do have the right guy. Seems they do. I wish quality mental health help was more readily available to all people in the US. Mental illness is an epidemic.
stfu, what makes you think he was bullied ??
@@Rae-nz6ju i wonder if he's an Incel like Elliot Rodger who wanted to commit this same type of crime because he hated women.
1. You don’t have to be smart to have a master degree
2. He’s 28 , did he work, or was he “just a student”?
3. He is a narcissist, who thinks he will outsmart everyone
4.may he rot for these murders
Ok internet expert 🤦
@@aturtle7424 there’s DNA evidence, pretty hard to argue against that, ofc he’s still innocent until proven guilty but I’d love to see how you can argue against that lol
I dont think there was a motive. He murdered these kids because he wanted to see if he could and get away with it.
Who is the guy that was interviewed who said he doesn't think he committed the crimes?
I think this killing was motivated in part by his desperate desire to satisfy his violent impulses, in order to gain some sense of relief.
or his OCD. that he kept on thinking about it and thinking about it -- more of a compulsion than an impulse?
@@burbankmadre You would think his parents or his sister would have suspected he needed help many years ago
@@michael-7240 yes although once that kid is out of the house it would be more difficult to mandate care. You can lead a horse to water…
@@burbankmadre Wasn't he living with his parents while attending high school, college and graduate school in the Pa.? Also, apparently his sister has a mental health job. Seems they would have noticed something was odd or off with him.
@@michael-7240 yes I think they would know if he was “off” but it is a considerable leap, in my opinion, to go from having an awkward kid to having a kid that kills 4 people. And I guess my point is that you can’t force a college kid to continue therapy (not sure he went to a therapist or psychiatrist when he was in high school…) unless you do a 5150 which they may or may not have thought was necessary.
They keep saying “suspect” but they talking like they already know hes guilty. This mans fate has already been sealed
Innocent until proven guilty....but unfortunately this guy is the perfect suspect if you were corrupt LE wanting to close a mass murder case real fast.
I don't see how you can know that.
Well DNA can be extremely damning.
@@Diana1000Smiles so the FBI found his DNA in the house? Wasn't this home like a party house, there could be many prints from ten to fifty different prints. Don't be surprised if he gets off if they don't completely have over whelming
Evidence.
@@daltonlanier4812 didnt a lot of people party in that house? Im sure theres a lot of peoples dna all over the house
"Out of character"? You don't say.
"Out of character for my son"....he doesn't normally kill four people....not normally
Great interview with standards and attributes of a prominent interviewer down the road. Keep up the good investigative journalism and interviews.