Thanks for your range & speed test Talal! Usually, the riding range of M-81 is between 60-105 miles with PAS 1-7, riding at a constant speed with no wind and the rider's weight around 165lbs. With 70% reliance on the throttle, the faster the battery will be consumed. Learned from one of our riders during a real daily ride, M-81 can reach at least 55+miles on a single charge with 3 boxes loaded down.
Very informative video and i liked the data from other videos! We just did a throttle only test with the Flyer L885 Cargo ebike and ended up riding 24 miles on a full charge.
I'm 6'1" and 300 lbs, and this bike is great with some light modifications like a new stem and handlebars to compensate for my height. I also added yuba monkey bars for my kid. You have to modify the rack's forward mounting plate by widening the holes, and make your own rear bracket with a small piece of 90 degree aluminum bar. Not too hard to do. Also, the front suspension won't be useful for anyone over 250 lbs (too soft). I just use the lockout and ride without suspension. I tried changing the front fork, but that was a waste of money because the weight of the rider is so far forward that the new suspension still fully compresses even though it is stiffer. I can't go back to the original fork because I had a bike shop move the "crown race" to the new fork, which can't be returned anymore. Stick with the stock fork, and use the lockout if you're heavy. Once adjusted with new parts for my height, this is the best ebike for riding with a child (6 yr old).
Do you have any pics to share of your set up..I am 6'2 and 250 and I want to throw 2 kids on the back. So I know I would have to do some modifications.
@Jake Hishon I bought yuba monkey bars from perennial cycles and installed it on the M-81. I had to widen the mounting holes on the bike rack (front) and make a simple bracket by cutting a piece of 90 degree aluminum bar and drilling 2 holes in it (for the back). You could also mount a piece of plywood to the rack first on the existing rack mounting points, and then mount the monkey bars to that without actually having to cut anything other than wood. Of course, you still need to buy bolts and nuts that will fit. I decided to mount the monkey bars the way I did because my child seat attaches directly to the rack. If you were using a pad for your passenger, it would fit over the plywood option.
I have this same bike. I'll say the bike has some room for improvement with range. My last range test after these modification got 60 miles on a single charge with battery life left
Actually this was the most informative test I’ve seen so far on any bike. What do you think of using this for like a rail trail camping trip over 2 days. Carrying some camping gear in the back.
Thank you! And this bike should do fine there. Definitely has enough cargo capacity to carry that stuff. Not sure how it’ll do in the woods but it should be manageable.
@@TalalipopMTB I think you’re right. Just rail trail. Gravel. I just wish I could find something similar with the 26in wheels and with the general beefiness of this bike. I think the 20in wheels hamper the range and crusibility of this. I have a 20in e bike by eahora and it seems to lag behind my gf and her 26 in cruiser. Like it tops at and it’s too fast to even pedal. Any ideas?
I would consider getting one in 18 years from now when I’m like 48 years old and my body is shot from working in a factory. Would make the commute easier on my body. Hard to justify now when it’s only a short 5km ride from home to work on a very flat high quality constructed bike path with only 600m spent on actual roads during that commute. But it looks fun owning a cargo bike with maybe a mini trailer to carry crate of tinnies from the bottle shop.
Hahaha yeah I understand that. It is definitely fun but yeah not totally necessary unless you do have some sort of injury or something preventing you from riding a normal bike
Any thoughts or insights.. I really like this bike, looking for a e-cargo that can fit me and my child. I was looking on a forum and noticed that there's been reports of the frame on this bike literally snapping in half while ppl have been riding. Anyone have any experience. Was sold on this bike until I saw that.
I have this bike and installed the yuba monkey bars. It will fit 2 smaller kids, but the foot boards that you can buy are too short for both of them. You will have to attach a piece of plywood to the foot rests to make a longer running board. You also have to make modifications to the mounting points on the bike and make your own rear bracket to get the monkey bars to mount. You could also mount a 1/2" piece of plywood to the rack, and then mount the monkey bars to that.
@@blankaball808 thanks for the reply. I was worried about the footboard situation and if sticking longer pieces of wood on the footboards might cause an issue with pedaling clearance. My kids are 8 and 6 so I’m worried they might not fit. The plywood sounds good but weight too far back makes the bike harder to handle. Thanks again it gives me a better idea. I waited too long on the Flyer L885 deal and now it’s done. So I’m still shopping around.
@@wakawaka1976 No regrets on the purchase. My only regret was my fault by wasting money replacing the front fork (stock fork was no different). As a warning, this bike is very powerful. It feels like more torque than my Juiced 1000w 52v RipCurrent S. If you're tall, just change the handlebars to one with a rise. Plywood isn't that heavy, and you can always use 1/4" to reduce weight. The bike is so powerful that it won't matter. I also had to buy a new seat because the yuba monkey bars hit the stock seat's handle. You could fit both your kids on the bike if you get a pad for them to sit on. I use a guppy Jr. Child seat mounted to the rack for my single child. The monkey bars give her something sturdy to hold on to. The only downside of the bike is that (even though you can raise the max speed) the gears have a ratio for pedaling only up to 15 mph. After that, you're ghost pedaling.
@@blankaball808 yeah I meant using the plywood to lengthen the back rack then placing a kid far back. We did that with a kids seat on a different bike and it makes the bike harder to balance when only the furthest kid is on. Thanks for the info
"But that bike isn't even a cargo bike" - which is funny, because the Zebra's max payload is 400lbs while the M-81's is only 350lbs. Out of the two of them, the Zebra is more of a cargo bike than the M-81. :)
At the beginning: 22miles for 1/5 of battery. At the end: 36 miles for all battery. The battery guage is disaster. When doing comparison with other bike, it would be helpful to include the battery capacity on the table.
That's a good idea! And yeah I have noticed this on other ebikes as well where the battery gauge changes depending on how you're riding, so it's not always accurate.
Thanks for your range & speed test Talal! Usually, the riding range of M-81 is between 60-105 miles with PAS 1-7, riding at a constant speed with no wind and the rider's weight around 165lbs. With 70% reliance on the throttle, the faster the battery will be consumed. Learned from one of our riders during a real daily ride, M-81 can reach at least 55+miles on a single charge with 3 boxes loaded down.
No problem! The bike definitely has a good range and is overall a great cargo bike to ride.
Very informative video and i liked the data from other videos! We just did a throttle only test with the Flyer L885 Cargo ebike and ended up riding 24 miles on a full charge.
Thank you!! That Flyer L885 is a nice looking bike for sure
I'm 6'1" and 300 lbs, and this bike is great with some light modifications like a new stem and handlebars to compensate for my height. I also added yuba monkey bars for my kid. You have to modify the rack's forward mounting plate by widening the holes, and make your own rear bracket with a small piece of 90 degree aluminum bar. Not too hard to do. Also, the front suspension won't be useful for anyone over 250 lbs (too soft). I just use the lockout and ride without suspension. I tried changing the front fork, but that was a waste of money because the weight of the rider is so far forward that the new suspension still fully compresses even though it is stiffer. I can't go back to the original fork because I had a bike shop move the "crown race" to the new fork, which can't be returned anymore. Stick with the stock fork, and use the lockout if you're heavy. Once adjusted with new parts for my height, this is the best ebike for riding with a child (6 yr old).
Do you have any pics to share of your set up..I am 6'2 and 250 and I want to throw 2 kids on the back. So I know I would have to do some modifications.
@Jake Hishon I bought yuba monkey bars from perennial cycles and installed it on the M-81. I had to widen the mounting holes on the bike rack (front) and make a simple bracket by cutting a piece of 90 degree aluminum bar and drilling 2 holes in it (for the back). You could also mount a piece of plywood to the rack first on the existing rack mounting points, and then mount the monkey bars to that without actually having to cut anything other than wood. Of course, you still need to buy bolts and nuts that will fit. I decided to mount the monkey bars the way I did because my child seat attaches directly to the rack. If you were using a pad for your passenger, it would fit over the plywood option.
I have this same bike.
I'll say the bike has some room for improvement with range.
My last range test after these modification got 60 miles on a single charge with battery life left
I have zero intrest in electric, but love the way you do your videos!
Thank you!! I appreciate that :)
Actually this was the most informative test I’ve seen so far on any bike. What do you think of using this for like a rail trail camping trip over 2 days. Carrying some camping gear in the back.
Thank you! And this bike should do fine there. Definitely has enough cargo capacity to carry that stuff. Not sure how it’ll do in the woods but it should be manageable.
@@TalalipopMTB I think you’re right. Just rail trail. Gravel. I just wish I could find something similar with the 26in wheels and with the general beefiness of this bike. I think the 20in wheels hamper the range and crusibility of this. I have a 20in e bike by eahora and it seems to lag behind my gf and her 26 in cruiser. Like it tops at and it’s too fast to even pedal. Any ideas?
were did you get the cool seat? link?
Does anyone know the reliability of this bike ,oh say at around a 1000 miles of use...? and thanks for your detailed reviews....!
I would consider getting one in 18 years from now when I’m like 48 years old and my body is shot from working in a factory. Would make the commute easier on my body. Hard to justify now when it’s only a short 5km ride from home to work on a very flat high quality constructed bike path with only 600m spent on actual roads during that commute. But it looks fun owning a cargo bike with maybe a mini trailer to carry crate of tinnies from the bottle shop.
I'm 54 and have been working hard in a factory for 37 years. Not ready for an electric yet! The human body is an amazing thing.
Hahaha yeah I understand that. It is definitely fun but yeah not totally necessary unless you do have some sort of injury or something preventing you from riding a normal bike
Nice!!
Any thoughts or insights.. I really like this bike, looking for a e-cargo that can fit me and my child. I was looking on a forum and noticed that there's been reports of the frame on this bike literally snapping in half while ppl have been riding. Anyone have any experience. Was sold on this bike until I saw that.
how did you bypass the max 32 kph (20 mph) speed setting? I have an M-81 and the max speed is 20 mph.
I watched a video on UA-cam from Addmotor themselves that explained how to bypass the speed limit
@@TalalipopMTB can you give me a little more info to help point me in the right direction to find that video?
@@gusremington73 ua-cam.com/video/2Q373bx_OBI/v-deo.html
do e53 throttle only test
Hey tal how’s tall are you? Just wondering if this will fit me as in 5’11” with 33in inseam
I’m 5’ 8” and this bike should fit you fine. It may feel a tad small but if you’re under 200 lbs or so I feel like it will be good
I am 6'1" and I had to replace the stem and handlebars to raise them up. Now it's perfect for my height.
@@blankaball808 thanks , that helps
If you could put some tern or yuba monkey bars on the back that would be great. Would like to see if this could hold two kids on the back.
I have this bike and installed the yuba monkey bars. It will fit 2 smaller kids, but the foot boards that you can buy are too short for both of them. You will have to attach a piece of plywood to the foot rests to make a longer running board. You also have to make modifications to the mounting points on the bike and make your own rear bracket to get the monkey bars to mount. You could also mount a 1/2" piece of plywood to the rack, and then mount the monkey bars to that.
@@blankaball808 thanks for the reply. I was worried about the footboard situation and if sticking longer pieces of wood on the footboards might cause an issue with pedaling clearance. My kids are 8 and 6 so I’m worried they might not fit. The plywood sounds good but weight too far back makes the bike harder to handle. Thanks again it gives me a better idea. I waited too long on the Flyer L885 deal and now it’s done. So I’m still shopping around.
@@blankaball808 how do you like the bike? Any regrets?
@@wakawaka1976 No regrets on the purchase. My only regret was my fault by wasting money replacing the front fork (stock fork was no different). As a warning, this bike is very powerful. It feels like more torque than my Juiced 1000w 52v RipCurrent S. If you're tall, just change the handlebars to one with a rise. Plywood isn't that heavy, and you can always use 1/4" to reduce weight. The bike is so powerful that it won't matter. I also had to buy a new seat because the yuba monkey bars hit the stock seat's handle. You could fit both your kids on the bike if you get a pad for them to sit on. I use a guppy Jr. Child seat mounted to the rack for my single child. The monkey bars give her something sturdy to hold on to. The only downside of the bike is that (even though you can raise the max speed) the gears have a ratio for pedaling only up to 15 mph. After that, you're ghost pedaling.
@@blankaball808 yeah I meant using the plywood to lengthen the back rack then placing a kid far back. We did that with a kids seat on a different bike and it makes the bike harder to balance when only the furthest kid is on. Thanks for the info
"But that bike isn't even a cargo bike" - which is funny, because the Zebra's max payload is 400lbs while the M-81's is only 350lbs. Out of the two of them, the Zebra is more of a cargo bike than the M-81. :)
hahaha that is a fair point
Ebike battery gauges are like computer installation % bars.
1%...5%...70%...71%...71%...100%
hahaha true
Adding the music is not a true test.
At the beginning: 22miles for 1/5 of battery. At the end: 36 miles for all battery. The battery guage is disaster. When doing comparison with other bike, it would be helpful to include the battery capacity on the table.
That's a good idea! And yeah I have noticed this on other ebikes as well where the battery gauge changes depending on how you're riding, so it's not always accurate.