Thanks again for the video. As already mentioned by someone else, you might get 185-190 at 120 kph. That's almost on a par with model 3, which is more streamelined. It looks like VW did a really good job.
@@fabriziom Depends on the rims, tire size and tire efficiency, but yes, it's more efficient than the ID.3 due to its superior aerodynamics, it has a lower CD, it's a sedan instead of a hatchback and it has a lower height that further reduces the drag coefficient. Those number you mention should be about right for the Model 3 at those speeds with the right tires and rims at constant speeds. In the end it's a tradeoff, the ID.3 is a little more convenient for european drivers due to its large interior space despite it's smaller size, but it's taller and less aerodynamic so it won't be as efficient.
@@fabriziom OK, so what? It is not any news. M3 is low car, ID3 is higher. Physics. Charging network improve all the time. So, ID3 need to stop 20 minutes and less to finish the trip. In many countries most roads are 90km/h limited. This mean 450-500 km range. Where is the problem then? Every electric car with battery bigger than 50 kwh will do the job.
@@Gresteh absolutely - model 3 Cd is 0.22 with aero wheels, and it's about a good 10cm lower the the ID3, for about the same width. So the id3 is clearly fairly efficient relative to its physical factors.
cleantechnica.com/2018/08/19/tesla-model-3-is-the-most-efficient-electric-car-on-highways/ this article shows different numbers. Around 22 at 130 kmh for a Model 3.
@@marcusevjourney566 I hope you will get yours soon. :) I was informed that my 1st Max arrived Norway recently! I'm so excited. Might have it by the end of September if I have some luck. ^_^
Chris and Car Maniac achieved exactly the same result 205 wh/km at 130km/h. . Or around 280 km range. At 120km/h , I think ID3 will achieve around 185-190 wh/km , or 310 km range.
@@marcusbiller867 Don't believe anything this guy says. He's full of it. Best 120 kmh test I could find from Bjorn, model 3 performance with mudflaps, 22 degrees temp, 188 Wh/km
@@ricardoaguiar8841 Haha, ok buddy. Comparing Model 3 P with an SR+... 350kg more and 20" wheels. Here is one for you, SR+ at 130 at 17.8kWh! ua-cam.com/video/kXj0VgkapUo/v-deo.html
Apart from the inherent awesomeness of a 133kmh test: Great music & also really like the intro with subscribe animation & sound effect. Does the trick, sleek and respectful of the audience.
People are against EVs for no reason. Yes, a bit more expensive, but other than this I really don't see anything disqualifying this technology from existence right now if you don't do regular 100km+ travels which probably sounds like above 80% of the people.
So what was the deal with all of the cars parked in charging slots but not charging their cars? Were they parked there blocking the “pump” effectively? Get the station to tow the cars away.
They are doing covid tests on this highway gas station. That takes up half the parking spots. It is annoying, but they mostly leave after a few minutes.
Battery Life wow. But would they think parking at a gas pump is ok? I suppose this is all part of the electric charging stations infrastructure needing to figure itself out to standard look, signage and get it working well. It’s still in the wild west early days era from what it’s like.
Huge respect for doing these tests and editing/uploading videos that schnell 🙃, you sacrificed a lot to bring important information for people as early as possible! BTW, it's worth to mention that wheels are 19" with tires...Bridgestone something? Can you update this info please. Take care!
@@fabriziom (Not really exclusively for Tesla Fap, but all of you drooling over German speed limits): There is little point in driving an EV at that speed #1: the higher consumption calls for longer recharge times and leads to lower average speed on longer journeys. Fast charging can't mediate that because you usually pay several times list price per kWh, so you need to work more hours per km driven. #2: The purpose of driving an EV is to reduce pollution, so using 200Wh/km, or more, means you are emitting more CO2 than a diesel driving 90km/h! Rule of thumb, is to aim for 100Wh/km average to keep you emissions worthwhile lower than an ICE car, which the iD3 easily can do at sensible speeds. (only exceptions are Norwegians at 5g CO2/kWh, who can basically drive as they please). Still, it is nice to own a car that can do 133 km/h! It might be needed in emergencies, but it is completely irrelevant as an everyday parameter in countries with a high portion of coal power like Germany and the US. Also European governments are debating reducing highway speed to 100km/h in several countries, including Germany, as a quick fix for closing in on the Paris Accord goals, and it will most likely happen. Applause, in this case, to the Americans for keeping the 55-60-65 Limits on most roads insticated during the 70' oil crisis, it makes the benefits of EVs much easier to reap, though you need to do something about your 450g CO2/kWh grid!
Brilliant videos, love you are so excited by your new car 😁 Will you do a 110KM/h range test? This is very relevant for UK folks, our motorway speed limit is 70mph.
But majority driving well over 70mph if there are no speed cameras. Cars in general are most economical when driven at up to 60mph, simply aerodynamics. I do 65mph and I am a high miles driver and I get good mpg out of my hybrid car.
I was arguing for some kind of radar detection years ago so users driving towards the chargepoints via App can see, if it is actually avaliable. This is relevant in Cities also. Second step would be for the operators to keep out an eye, verify and alert the authorities. Ideally laws would be changed to make it legal to just tow those ICErs with digital documentation per the truckdriver for the legal aftermath. Make it a profit driven thing for all I care, the quicker those blocking chargers get removed the better. tldr: laws need to deal with this new reality (i.e. lawmakers need to experience this inconvenience themselves)
10:12 The turtle mode comes right after the display goes to 0km range, but then the car should almost immediately stop, like my Taycan does. Switch off, switch on, and you can drive again to move the car to a safe spot!
Nice tests! For me that meens that I can expect much more then 400km on normal tripps in countryside and about 20kWh/100km or less consumption on autobahn with about 120km/h. Looks perfect.
@@DavidGomez-xl3dk That's not what he said. He said 400 km on normal countryside trips and 20 KWh/100 km on the Autobahn, without stating just how many km that would be but indeed claiming that value would be perfect for him.
@@EinzigfreierName Did you watched Chris 90km/h video? Where he achieved 444 km at avg. speed 86 km/h? So outside of the city(no autobahn) , over 400km can be achieved easily. Outside of the city if you drive with 75 km/h average speed(driving by speed limit), over 450 km are sure thing.
@@EinzigfreierName Sorry, maybe my sentence was easy to misunderstand. Countryside means trips with 40 (in villages) up to 90 km/h. I have to accelerate more often but the average is far below 90 km/h. On Highway I expect maximum 300 km of range. That means I expect first stop after 250 km and the next stops each 200 km.
Hi there, Your vid is very cool, but you skip over the essentials and do not describe SIMPLY what you are doing. It is easy to lose track as a Brit listening to your cool 'easy' style of commentary. Please slow down a bit and describe slowly for idiots like me (new ID3 owner) what you are planning to do BEFORE you begin and the result at the end. So, I ASSUME you started at 98% charge?? I could see charger screen, but could not see if it was connected to YOUR ID3. En route, I could see a range of 352 kms, but not the battery percentage on the ID screen at the beginning, until you dropped to 74%. My car only wants to charge to 80% from my local charger. So, what is the range at 133kms/hr from 80%-10-2% ? Possibly, at 10%, to be safe, I might have to deviate from my route to find a charger. Thanks Kite
...OK.. that was a realistic drive, 130km/h its an average on most drivers on a highway. But 280km total range its not so compatible to a fossil fuel car. I assume filling it with family and luggage will drop the range at 230-240km(at 130km/h). Any fossil fuel small family car with 20-30% lower price, will do 400+km at 130km/h(gps). Love EV's but something drastically must change in battery technology to move further with 1 charge!
How much range does a similar diesel car get at the same speed? Let's say a Golf TDI 150 hp with a 50L tank. Is that 7L/100km? That would equate to a range of 714 km. I hope EVs can get that kind of range soon.
I drive a Mercedes C 220 Diesel, 60L tank, with AdBlue exhaust cleaning/catalysator. I drive a mix of country roads, Autobahn, and City. Fuel consumption is about than 5.7l/100km according to my logs and this matches the car display which shows long term distance and fuel consumption. Thus I drive about 1000km before refueling 😉.
@@BatteryLife Every day I watch 2 or 3 videos you are very good, it takes 2 months to give me the id3 pro s, one question does the adaptive control recognize traffic signals and change speed according to the signal?
I don't know what the exact goal of this test was. Is is to measure the maximum range of this car ? Well, then to me it seems better that you perform this test at night with hardly any traffic and then you don't need the airco. If you tried to achieve a test in a real situation (during the day with traffic and airco) well then this was a nice test. Thanks for doing the tests by the way, it's very interesting.
Might be the next one i get. Sadly the interior is white. I wish it was black and less minimalistic. EVs are getting to the point its a good idea to get one.
Wooawooo is a good EV for fast driving . The white interior is awesome 😎. But , will need to have a good cleaning skills to keep the interior clean and shiny . Cheers
Nice Vid, thank you. But in the winter you will different consumption data. 200 or 220 km on the Autobahn at a lower speed may be. I‘m looking forward to that video. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I really appriciate the real life tests. One thing I’d really like to know is how the car would fare in real life 4 person family road trip to the seaside, i.e. with the weight of 2 adults and two teenagers and packed full trunk… at let’s say 110-120 km/h (economizing for fewer stops). I’m not planning on much light solo traveling, but family trips… very much so. :)
I appreciate you guys that are early adopters, second Gen of this will be amazing as it’s going to be based on solid ground from this very capable Car.
I would not call this early adoption. This is getting mainstream now. Early adopters were Nissan Leaf owners back in 2011 ;). Anyway, great content for the future EVE drivers!
Thanks a lot for this interesting video! I can't see any reason to switch away from my old 28kWh Ionic, the consumption of the ID3 is in my opinion horrible. Over the last 30000km I'm below 145Wh/km with a speedy tending driving style...
I understand you. But it is not always about consumption. The bigger battery and great charging speed makes up for it. But if it cost per km for you, than your Ioniq is the king.
How could the average speed go down so much 122km/h if he was driving 133km/h almost the whole battery time.? In the end it was a bit of 110km/h or so but not for long.
Because you start to drive onto the highway, I had to turn around somewhere and the same at the end. This all brings down the avg speed when for a few km you drive very slowly.
I swear companies are making packs bigger than the driver can access, making for good charge rates near full. They should allow users to call support to have it remotely opened so you can get the extra 5% in emergency run flat situations.
auweija so viele Verbrenner gleichzeitig auf den Ladeplätze, wenn das die Realität ist, dann bekomme ich echt Angst und bekomme Zweifel ob es die richtige Entscheidung war ein E-Auto zu bestellen. Da sollte der Gesetzgeber wirklich einschreiten und empfindliche Geldstrafen veranlassen, die auch wirklich abschreckend sind. :0
@Car Fli ja da hast du wohl recht, leider scheint es aber das typische egoistische Verhalten zu sein was viele an den Tag legen "erst ich dann alle anderen" Wenn man sich nun vorstellt da kommt ein eAutofahrer, der dringend laden muss, der hat die berühnte A-Karte. Ich selbst fahre noch einen BMW Gran Tourer, will aber auf einen (höchstwahrscheinlich) ID.3 umsteigen, vielleicht wird es aber auch ein Kia eNiro oder ein Tesla Model 3
For a German car, software is quite poor. Different percentages depending on which screen you look at. That can cause a massive argument between driver and passenger... speaking from experience 🤕
So I can drive 200 kilometers with a 30,000 euro electric car and then I already have to "refuel"? If this is the message of the video, the diesel owners will laugh out loud at this moment. Get a vehicle that is superior to this electric car in all key attributes: price, range, charging time. Why should you buy it?
With my bike with 14 liters of gasoline I could have done almost the same km as you did. How much 14 liters of gasoline weights and how much Das Auto battery weights?
@@BatteryLife you're right, I should compare with an electric bike. By the way, how is the id3 in details? I know that tesla is very poor in interior finishes like door frame mismatch, mispaced gaskets, things like that. But Volkswagen has very long experience building cars so... how is it?
Nice clip! Could you do a review for the trunk and measure it out...? Is it possible to sleep in the car? Could I pack in an Surfboard or better an eFoil with 170cm?
I normally cruise at between 140 -160 km/h and still get a range of about 800km from my BMW 525D touring. I might consider an EV for around town but not ready yet to stop and charge every 2 hrs for an autobahn journey.
Thank you to share this test ride(s). So I think it's not true what some testers told about the consumption of the ID3. "Combined 23 KWH/100km?" I think the efficiency is near to e-Golf (who I use), and yes far away from what the Hyundai and Kia models deliver (I heard so, that you can easiely reach
The eGolf has less height and that reduces a little the aerodynamic drag... As for the Koreans, they don't get that efficiency at high speeds, they may get it at low speeds, but at higher speeds there is absolutely no way to get that kind of efficiency unless you are driving in a near vacum (then you don't have to consider aerodynamic drag, and you just have to consider rolling resistance that is constant regardless your speed). (ok, that was a little exageration, you could get that efficiency if you drove at the top of the mount everest, no need for a near vacuum)
@@BatteryLife i think so, but far away from 23 average stated by ams testing. What do you think about the quality? Is this that worser than known by Volkswagen?
I mean those ICE cars!!!! I thought most Germans were people who behave well... I'm starting to understand why Tesla superchargers are either far away from the fuel pumps or away from the highway. That kinda helps...
Yeah, I don't understand that either. It is like parking an electric car next to a petrol pump and wandering off for a few hours! But at least at a petrol station there are usually 5-11 other pumps to use, at an electric charge point there might typically only be 1-3 other choices (if they are even working)!
Don't blame them too much, the area near that Ionity station is being used for covid testing... if they are there they have bigger worries than checking if the place is reserved for EVs or not.
@@Gresteh oh I didn't know that. Agreed this is indeed a reason to not focus on parking properly. Nevertheless I hope people will get more disciplined in the near future.
For such a small car I was expecting better efficiency. This is about on par with the Model 3 which is definitely a larger vehicle but it offers so much more power and is more dynamic to drive. I’ll be excited to see a test of the larger battery pack.
Hmm, gonna be interesting in winter. 200km? The 300km from Model 3 are already not good enough in winter for me. But 1st has the small battery, the 77 kWh is much more appealing to me. By the way, Americans want to buy the ID.3 and cant. VW should do something ASAP.
Maybe around 220km without Heatpump and 240km with it. Perhaps even some KMs less. Chris will test it for sure ;) With 77kWh you will get around 290km Winterrange without Heatpump (130km/h speed). I will get my 77kWh next year.
@@Tehamed21 No, the SR+ has 52kWh brand new, but they only give you 49kWh to 0%. You have to go below 0% to get 52kWh. Check out Bjorn Nyland range test SR+, he tested it
It's so funny how EVs flip the range thing. Now it's less range on the highway versus with petrol or diesel where range at 120kph can be almost 1000kms depending on engine.
Greetings from Romania! I see this is the way to greet, though it is a bit weird, still, I apologise for my compatriot in the blue Honda civic viii. The plate number caught my eye. I think parking ice on ev must have been a mob mentality thing. Too many cars to justify a honest mistake. The series where you compare cars, i think, or for me, is the most valuable, or the rarest. I am cross shopping 7 or 8 cars that are wildly different to each other... ranging from a smart fortwo, to a ioniq 5.... :D so keep weirding those comparisons out. When i'm done, i'll post a video with my crazy to this point experience with dealers. today mazda offered me a 30 minutes test drive for the mx-30, apparently mx-30 derives from its range, max 30 minutes. and yesterday the honda rep called me while eating. fun stuff, but i digress. keep up and bye
Nope, he didn't do a full range test. He did a few tests all together. And not to the starting point. So the consumption test is for nothing if you the elevation is different. I started and ended at the same spot.
Battery Life you achieved the same result so it is not for nothing. But ok at a wine tasting some people take a sip and calculate that the rest of the bottle tastes a certain way and others drink the whole bottle and claim that they did a real test and it really tastes like expected. I will edit my comment and not say that the title is a lie but will stick to more realistic videos in the future as I will never charge to 100% and drive till 2% like never ever. The real full range doesn’t matter at most EV cars because you are not using it the way as in a test scenario. Especially if the cars switch to eco mode and cut off the ac at a certain soc... no way I will charge before the AC is off for sure
I have been quite sick the last week so have watched only a little of your videos and not commented. But excellent tests and really happy you and your ID.3 are finally united 🥳😆!
@@BatteryLife Yes I'm pretty okay now, thanks. It's a chronic medical condition (ME/CFS) I have that sometimes gets worse. But I'm used to it by now. I was watching most of this 130km/h live stream as well - so exiting and informative 😊! Happy driving!
@@abraxastulammo9940 The EV cars of VW Group always have the buffer because it will protect and prolong their vehicles' battery life. The OTA can shrink that buffer over time.
11:07 when i see that a normal car you can change to LPG for intial invest of 700USD and have a price of 0,4USD/l witha range of 600km by 55l i dont see a reason to buy a VW ID3 with 0,5USD/kW
HoLiSchit, it stresses me out as well, but I figure Neil Blanchard is right, an experienced EV driver will probably think it less of an issue or none at all ;-)
Not bad, it's about what Tesla Model 3 does on 43kwh at these speeds, consumption is a bit high, Model 3 has same consumption at around 100 mph.. How wide are the front tires 235? How heavy is the car? (Model3 - 1575kg rwd to 1800 for awd)
@@artem10789 How much is available in ID.3 battery? For Model3 it's 43kwh for SR and 10% more for SR+, so ID.3 might have even more range possibly available as Model3 hides a lot of battery for reserve in recent updates
If you only use Ionity it's € 0.79 / kWh for a drop-in. For us with the 1st edition of the ID.3 we get 2000 kWh for free the first year. After that you can either use drop-in or pay for a subscription with cheaper charging costs (please check out We Charge Go and We Charge Plus): www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/2020/07/we-charge-volkswagens-new-charging-service-has-over-150-000-publ.html#
true, but Chris: on the 1K km of miles you made this weekend (including the kw @ pickup on Sat). How many kW have you charged INTO the car across that 1000 km? With that project cost of Ionity & Lvl2 (if they didn't have it free)?
The big question! Can you put rear facing child seat behind the passenger and still have someone sit in the seat without their knees pressed against the dash?
Thanks again for the video. As already mentioned by someone else, you might get 185-190 at 120 kph. That's almost on a par with model 3, which is more streamelined. It looks like VW did a really good job.
Model 3 SR+ does 180-185Wh/km at 130kph, not 120. At 120kph I do around 165Wh/km. I'll make a vid on it soon to compare.
@@fabriziom Depends on the rims, tire size and tire efficiency, but yes, it's more efficient than the ID.3 due to its superior aerodynamics, it has a lower CD, it's a sedan instead of a hatchback and it has a lower height that further reduces the drag coefficient. Those number you mention should be about right for the Model 3 at those speeds with the right tires and rims at constant speeds. In the end it's a tradeoff, the ID.3 is a little more convenient for european drivers due to its large interior space despite it's smaller size, but it's taller and less aerodynamic so it won't be as efficient.
@@fabriziom OK, so what? It is not any news. M3 is low car, ID3 is higher. Physics. Charging network improve all the time. So, ID3 need to stop 20 minutes and less to finish the trip. In many countries most roads are 90km/h limited. This mean 450-500 km range. Where is the problem then? Every electric car with battery bigger than 50 kwh will do the job.
@@Gresteh absolutely - model 3 Cd is 0.22 with aero wheels, and it's about a good 10cm lower the the ID3, for about the same width. So the id3 is clearly fairly efficient relative to its physical factors.
cleantechnica.com/2018/08/19/tesla-model-3-is-the-most-efficient-electric-car-on-highways/ this article shows different numbers. Around 22 at 130 kmh for a Model 3.
You are the best :-) The range figures are better than I expected, so that is great news. 2% and you look so calm.
Marcus EV Journey when will you get your car?
arlandanights No idea, perhaps September or October.
@@marcusevjourney566 I hope you will get yours soon. :) I was informed that my 1st Max arrived Norway recently! I'm so excited. Might have it by the end of September if I have some luck. ^_^
Marcus EV Journey I thought the cars are already in Portugal?
Marcus EV Journey ok
Chris and Car Maniac achieved exactly the same result 205 wh/km at 130km/h. . Or around 280 km range. At 120km/h , I think ID3 will achieve around 185-190 wh/km , or 310 km range.
Model 3 SR+ is around 140-150Wh/km at these speeds...Quite the difference
@@marcusbiller867 Don't believe anything this guy says. He's full of it. Best 120 kmh test I could find from Bjorn, model 3 performance with mudflaps, 22 degrees temp, 188 Wh/km
@@ricardoaguiar8841 Haha, ok buddy. Comparing Model 3 P with an SR+... 350kg more and 20" wheels. Here is one for you, SR+ at 130 at 17.8kWh! ua-cam.com/video/kXj0VgkapUo/v-deo.html
@@marcusbiller867 So you claim tesla uses 140-150Wh/km and back it with a test where it used 178, smooth
@@piotrc5946 Did you even read what he said and what he sent the second time round?
Apart from the inherent awesomeness of a 133kmh test: Great music & also really like the intro with subscribe animation & sound effect. Does the trick, sleek and respectful of the audience.
I did not know that there are idiots who park in electric car charging stations in Germany, not only in my own country.
Maybe they have vampire drain in 12v system and they need to charge 😁
Any ice cars parking at the charging stations need to have their tires slashed!
@@maxkonig559 or give them a ticket/warning
Idiots are everywhere around the World 😏
Yes they are everywhere, but the two plates you can see are polish...
People are against EVs for no reason. Yes, a bit more expensive, but other than this I really don't see anything disqualifying this technology from existence right now if you don't do regular 100km+ travels which probably sounds like above 80% of the people.
Greetings from Finland!
I saw one yesterday, it look better than I thought
So what was the deal with all of the cars parked in charging slots but not charging their cars? Were they parked there blocking the “pump” effectively? Get the station to tow the cars away.
They are doing covid tests on this highway gas station. That takes up half the parking spots. It is annoying, but they mostly leave after a few minutes.
Battery Life wow. But would they think parking at a gas pump is ok? I suppose this is all part of the electric charging stations infrastructure needing to figure itself out to standard look, signage and get it working well. It’s still in the wild west early days era from what it’s like.
Great to be seeing real world data Chris 👍⚡⚡⚡
Guter kurzweiliger Test 👍🏼
Hoffe du machst das gleiche nochmal im Winter als Vergleich 😊
Octidriver 71 … Winter kann ja schon übernächste Woche sein in Good, Old Germany!
@@typorickfoto ja, morgens um 5 fühlt das sich aktuell schon so an wie Winter in Germany
Not bad at all! Thanks!
Huge respect for doing these tests and editing/uploading videos that schnell 🙃, you sacrificed a lot to bring important information for people as early as possible!
BTW, it's worth to mention that wheels are 19" with tires...Bridgestone something? Can you update this info please.
Take care!
You Germans are lucky that you can travel at speeds of 133 km/hr. In Canada, that speed would get you a ticket.
We can drive much faster then 133 km/hr
@@lukasgescholowitz 😯
But if you drive slower, you can do the same range in winter 😉
Once I drove 313 km/h on the Autobahn but you should know what you are doing....
@@fabriziom (Not really exclusively for Tesla Fap, but all of you drooling over German speed limits): There is little point in driving an EV at that speed #1: the higher consumption calls for longer recharge times and leads to lower average speed on longer journeys. Fast charging can't mediate that because you usually pay several times list price per kWh, so you need to work more hours per km driven. #2: The purpose of driving an EV is to reduce pollution, so using 200Wh/km, or more, means you are emitting more CO2 than a diesel driving 90km/h! Rule of thumb, is to aim for 100Wh/km average to keep you emissions worthwhile lower than an ICE car, which the iD3 easily can do at sensible speeds. (only exceptions are Norwegians at 5g CO2/kWh, who can basically drive as they please). Still, it is nice to own a car that can do 133 km/h! It might be needed in emergencies, but it is completely irrelevant as an everyday parameter in countries with a high portion of coal power like Germany and the US. Also European governments are debating reducing highway speed to 100km/h in several countries, including Germany, as a quick fix for closing in on the Paris Accord goals, and it will most likely happen. Applause, in this case, to the Americans for keeping the 55-60-65 Limits on most roads insticated during the 70' oil crisis, it makes the benefits of EVs much easier to reap, though you need to do something about your 450g CO2/kWh grid!
Man, the interior looks like in a low budget car
Maybe because it is a low budget car?
The white looks nice!
@@nsglcck It costs more than a Tesla...
@@nsglcck 40k is not low budget
Maybe because it's a 'Volkswagen'.
I see that the sun is shining and that it is 24 degrees outside, then it must be quite warm in the car with the air conditioning off.
Great test and Id3 performs very well. With max. 120 km on highway and some Traffic 350 km are possible. And only in The city 500km are possible.
best is3 video with cool music...keep om going
Brilliant videos, love you are so excited by your new car 😁
Will you do a 110KM/h range test? This is very relevant for UK folks, our motorway speed limit is 70mph.
But majority driving well over 70mph if there are no speed cameras. Cars in general are most economical when driven at up to 60mph, simply aerodynamics. I do 65mph and I am a high miles driver and I get good mpg out of my hybrid car.
Fuck for the thermals that park in the charging places and thank you for this good consumption at 130 km / h.
Crap about all those ICE cars, where are the Polizei when you need them.
I was arguing for some kind of radar detection years ago so users driving towards the chargepoints via App can see, if it is actually avaliable. This is relevant in Cities also.
Second step would be for the operators to keep out an eye, verify and alert the authorities. Ideally laws would be changed to make it legal to just tow those ICErs with digital documentation per the truckdriver for the legal aftermath. Make it a profit driven thing for all I care, the quicker those blocking chargers get removed the better.
tldr: laws need to deal with this new reality (i.e. lawmakers need to experience this inconvenience themselves)
This is my worry, turning up to a charger only to find it blocked by a bunch of lazy idiots in ICE cars.
“It’s so hot 26°C” 😂 2 days ago it was 38°C here where I live
10:12 The turtle mode comes right after the display goes to 0km range, but then the car should almost immediately stop, like my Taycan does. Switch off, switch on, and you can drive again to move the car to a safe spot!
Great Video. I like the ID.3
Nice tests! For me that meens that I can expect much more then 400km on normal tripps in countryside and about 20kWh/100km or less consumption on autobahn with about 120km/h. Looks perfect.
@@EinzigfreierName 20kWh/100Km with 54kW batery means no more than 250km of range at 120km/h ....
@@DavidGomez-xl3dk ID.3 have 58kwh battery. so you will get 290km at 130km/h and over 300km with 120km/h
@@DavidGomez-xl3dk That's not what he said. He said 400 km on normal countryside trips and 20 KWh/100 km on the Autobahn, without stating just how many km that would be but indeed claiming that value would be perfect for him.
@@EinzigfreierName Did you watched Chris 90km/h video? Where he achieved 444 km at avg. speed 86 km/h? So outside of the city(no autobahn) , over 400km can be achieved easily. Outside of the city if you drive with 75 km/h average speed(driving by speed limit), over 450 km are sure thing.
@@EinzigfreierName Sorry, maybe my sentence was easy to misunderstand. Countryside means trips with 40 (in villages) up to 90 km/h. I have to accelerate more often but the average is far below 90 km/h. On Highway I expect maximum 300 km of range. That means I expect first stop after 250 km and the next stops each 200 km.
Not bad results, still for me its better to wait for the id.4 or the 550km version. A bigger battery means less heat and also allowes faster charge.
Moin Chris! Und das nächste Video. Top. Geht hier ja Schlag auf Schlag. 👍 Aber meiner Meinung nach hat der B-Modus auf der Autobahn nix zu suchen. VG
Hi there,
Your vid is very cool, but you skip over the essentials and do not describe SIMPLY what you are doing. It is easy to lose track as a Brit listening to your cool 'easy' style of commentary.
Please slow down a bit and describe slowly for idiots like me (new ID3 owner) what you are planning to do BEFORE you begin and the result at the end.
So, I ASSUME you started at 98% charge?? I could see charger screen, but could not see if it was connected to YOUR ID3. En route, I could see a range of 352 kms, but not the battery percentage on the ID screen at the beginning, until you dropped to 74%.
My car only wants to charge to 80% from my local charger.
So, what is the range at 133kms/hr from 80%-10-2% ? Possibly, at 10%, to be safe, I might have to deviate from my route to find a charger. Thanks Kite
One screen shows 2% while other 4% ?
Already fixed.
Nice Soundtrack of the video 😊🤘 Keep the ID.3 content coming 👍⚡️
So easily 300km at 120kmh. Nice
I would say 130km/h would be great
@@klopherald4509 There is still a version with a bigger battery.
Hi! What dou you reckon the consumption would be at 140kmh?
210 Wh/km, I guess. In summer without ac.
@@BatteryLife That's great! What about in winter, at around 5ºC?
...OK.. that was a realistic drive, 130km/h its an average on most drivers on a highway. But 280km total range its not so compatible to a fossil fuel car. I assume filling it with family and luggage will drop the range at 230-240km(at 130km/h). Any fossil fuel small family car with 20-30% lower price, will do 400+km at 130km/h(gps). Love EV's but something drastically must change in battery technology to move further with 1 charge!
Die WLTP Reichweite ist sowas von Blödsinn, kann man ja fast durch 2 teilen
Wltp is a mix, not just highway.
How much range does a similar diesel car get at the same speed? Let's say a Golf TDI 150 hp with a 50L tank. Is that 7L/100km? That would equate to a range of 714 km. I hope EVs can get that kind of range soon.
I drive a Mercedes C 220 Diesel, 60L tank, with AdBlue exhaust cleaning/catalysator. I drive a mix of country roads, Autobahn, and City. Fuel consumption is about than 5.7l/100km according to my logs and this matches the car display which shows long term distance and fuel consumption. Thus I drive about 1000km before refueling 😉.
Tesla already at that range, others will get there in a few years
Greeting from Spain!!, i habe buy pro s 77kw.
I have videos on the Pro S as well
@@BatteryLife Every day I watch 2 or 3 videos you are very good, it takes 2 months to give me the id3 pro s, one question does the adaptive control recognize traffic signals and change speed according to the signal?
Nice! I have a 250km journey coming up so looks like I’ll get away without a stop. Great vid 👍
Thankfully the video did not end on me with 7km to go at the end.... :P
Another informative video. Has anybody mentioned to you that you look like Tommy Chong? Keep up the good work, thanks. 🙂
Really? Just because of beard and long hair? ;) No weed though!
So the 77 kWh battery should allow safe 250 km from 80% to 10%.
I don't know what the exact goal of this test was. Is is to measure the maximum range of this car ? Well, then to me it seems better that you perform this test at night with hardly any traffic and then you don't need the airco. If you tried to achieve a test in a real situation (during the day with traffic and airco) well then this was a nice test. Thanks for doing the tests by the way, it's very interesting.
Might be the next one i get. Sadly the interior is white. I wish it was black and less minimalistic.
EVs are getting to the point its a good idea to get one.
"Turtle".... what does the paper (?) manual say?
133kh doing 280km is amazing efficiency for 58kwh net!!!!! Lol VW hands down guys!
Avg speed was a bit lower though
That unity bird logo looks like Tesla
220 kmH 🤣
Thanks for the test. Is this the 58kw version ?
yes
That was the only version available initially. Chris mentioned several times in his Sunday program.😉
Wooawooo is a good EV for fast driving . The white interior is awesome 😎. But , will need to have a good cleaning skills to keep the interior clean and shiny . Cheers
Nice Vid, thank you. But in the winter you will different consumption data. 200 or 220 km on the Autobahn at a lower speed may be. I‘m looking forward to that video. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Will do it winter for sure.
Bonjour
Merci'pour cette video
Cordialement de France
I really appriciate the real life tests. One thing I’d really like to know is how the car would fare in real life 4 person family road trip to the seaside, i.e. with the weight of 2 adults and two teenagers and packed full trunk… at let’s say 110-120 km/h (economizing for fewer stops). I’m not planning on much light solo traveling, but family trips… very much so. :)
Just try it. It is hard to do every test for every specific use case. ;)
The norwein german?? good one buddy. You like rock&roll! Like!
300km range at 120km/h it is then :) 18, 19 or 20 inch wheels? 18 will probably be better than 20.
The Plus has 19 inch
Love your channel, you are so upbeat. Hope you are still enjoying the car. I’m thinking of getting one this summer.
Thanks. I am.
I appreciate you guys that are early adopters, second Gen of this will be amazing as it’s going to be based on solid ground from this very capable Car.
I would not call this early adoption. This is getting mainstream now. Early adopters were Nissan Leaf owners back in 2011 ;). Anyway, great content for the future EVE drivers!
Great video!
Thanks a lot for this interesting video! I can't see any reason to switch away from my old 28kWh Ionic, the consumption of the ID3 is in my opinion horrible. Over the last 30000km I'm below 145Wh/km with a speedy tending driving style...
I understand you. But it is not always about consumption. The bigger battery and great charging speed makes up for it. But if it cost per km for you, than your Ioniq is the king.
How could the average speed go down so much 122km/h if he was driving 133km/h almost the whole battery time.? In the end it was a bit of 110km/h or so but not for long.
Because you start to drive onto the highway, I had to turn around somewhere and the same at the end. This all brings down the avg speed when for a few km you drive very slowly.
I swear companies are making packs bigger than the driver can access, making for good charge rates near full. They should allow users to call support to have it remotely opened so you can get the extra 5% in emergency run flat situations.
Every car battery has a buffer on the bottom and on the top.
auweija so viele Verbrenner gleichzeitig auf den Ladeplätze, wenn das die Realität ist, dann bekomme ich echt Angst und bekomme Zweifel ob es die richtige Entscheidung war ein E-Auto zu bestellen. Da sollte der Gesetzgeber wirklich einschreiten und empfindliche Geldstrafen veranlassen, die auch wirklich abschreckend sind. :0
@Car Fli ja da hast du wohl recht, leider scheint es aber das typische egoistische Verhalten zu sein was viele an den Tag legen "erst ich dann alle anderen" Wenn man sich nun vorstellt da kommt ein eAutofahrer, der dringend laden muss, der hat die berühnte A-Karte. Ich selbst fahre noch einen BMW Gran Tourer, will aber auf einen (höchstwahrscheinlich) ID.3 umsteigen, vielleicht wird es aber auch ein Kia eNiro oder ein Tesla Model 3
I have a TM3LRAWD. Anyone know what the consumption is at 130km/h?
Way lower. Inwould say 15 to 20%
For a German car, software is quite poor. Different percentages depending on which screen you look at. That can cause a massive argument between driver and passenger... speaking from experience 🤕
Already fixed. This was 9 months ago
Endlich auch das Cockpit mit im Video, Daumen hoch. Gutes Ergebnis, reicht für mich locker.
So I can drive 200 kilometers with a 30,000 euro electric car and then I already have to "refuel"? If this is the message of the video, the diesel owners will laugh out loud at this moment. Get a vehicle that is superior to this electric car in all key attributes: price, range, charging time. Why should you buy it?
Will you do a video on the driver assist system?
I haven’t had time to join any of the streams so thank you for sharing these recaps! Have you been using travel assist? If so, how do you like it?
None in the "Plus".
Abraxas Tulammo ah thanks for clarifying
Great range test.. with the battery at a Iow state of charge. Would bee good to see a charging test.. from 2-80% or all the way to 100%
I already filmed a charging test 2 - 100% Have to edit the video.
@@BatteryLife
Cool thanks... Looking forward to it
With my bike with 14 liters of gasoline I could have done almost the same km as you did. How much 14 liters of gasoline weights and how much Das Auto battery weights?
Sorry, but not a good comparison. Bike and a 5 seater car with a trunk.
@@BatteryLife you're right, I should compare with an electric bike. By the way, how is the id3 in details? I know that tesla is very poor in interior finishes like door frame mismatch, mispaced gaskets, things like that. But Volkswagen has very long experience building cars so... how is it?
You didn't mention at no point what the battery capacity is...
Sorry, common knowledge since you csn only get 1 battery right now. 58 kWh net.
Turtle mode at below 0%, I dare you to try? ;-)
Range is perfectly fine for Dutch roads like this. We have enough chargers. Can only drive 100km/u max anyway...
Nice clip! Could you do a review for the trunk and measure it out...? Is it possible to sleep in the car? Could I pack in an Surfboard or better an eFoil with 170cm?
Sorry, all No. ;)
@@BatteryLife not all, but trunk size...
Can you call the police when they block the charger?
Yes, to tow away all the ugly looking washing machines with wheels present there.
Balls!
What you had air con on! Oh sorry I’m watching from Australia 😂
On and off, when I needed it.
Sorry, but were you operating the camera while driving? It seem like it when you shot the central LCD panel.
I normally cruise at between 140 -160 km/h and still get a range of about 800km from my BMW 525D touring.
I might consider an EV for around town but not ready yet to stop and charge every 2 hrs for an autobahn journey.
I could hear lots of road noise through the car!! I wonder if it's this car is well insulated!
Very well isolated. Almost etron level. I gain and compress the audio.
Depends partly where you put the micro
Thank you to share this test ride(s). So I think it's not true what some testers told about the consumption of the ID3. "Combined 23 KWH/100km?" I think the efficiency is near to e-Golf (who I use), and yes far away from what the Hyundai and Kia models deliver (I heard so, that you can easiely reach
Higher consumption than eGolf. But I prefer having a higher seat position.
The eGolf has less height and that reduces a little the aerodynamic drag... As for the Koreans, they don't get that efficiency at high speeds, they may get it at low speeds, but at higher speeds there is absolutely no way to get that kind of efficiency unless you are driving in a near vacum (then you don't have to consider aerodynamic drag, and you just have to consider rolling resistance that is constant regardless your speed). (ok, that was a little exageration, you could get that efficiency if you drove at the top of the mount everest, no need for a near vacuum)
@@BatteryLife i think so, but far away from 23 average stated by ams testing. What do you think about the quality? Is this that worser than known by Volkswagen?
I would change the theme in the dark mode, looks better.
Great review again ....up to the next one 🚗
With average speed 100 kmph, can it go 300 km+ on a single charge?
Sure
In the winter as well?
I mean those ICE cars!!!! I thought most Germans were people who behave well... I'm starting to understand why Tesla superchargers are either far away from the fuel pumps or away from the highway. That kinda helps...
Yeah, I don't understand that either. It is like parking an electric car next to a petrol pump and wandering off for a few hours! But at least at a petrol station there are usually 5-11 other pumps to use, at an electric charge point there might typically only be 1-3 other choices (if they are even working)!
They were not German. Look at those numberplates. They were aboard
Don't blame them too much, the area near that Ionity station is being used for covid testing... if they are there they have bigger worries than checking if the place is reserved for EVs or not.
@@edgy21 well that Civic is German no?
@@Gresteh oh I didn't know that. Agreed this is indeed a reason to not focus on parking properly. Nevertheless I hope people will get more disciplined in the near future.
For such a small car I was expecting better efficiency. This is about on par with the Model 3 which is definitely a larger vehicle but it offers so much more power and is more dynamic to drive. I’ll be excited to see a test of the larger battery pack.
It is way less efficient than the M3. Because of the form. You sit higher and more comfortable in the id3
Battery Life Model Y sits much higher than either 3 or ID.3 but it is nearly as efficient as the Model 3. It’s much much larger than the ID.3
Hmm, gonna be interesting in winter. 200km? The 300km from Model 3 are already not good enough in winter for me. But 1st has the small battery, the 77 kWh is much more appealing to me.
By the way, Americans want to buy the ID.3 and cant. VW should do something ASAP.
Maybe around 220km without Heatpump and 240km with it. Perhaps even some KMs less. Chris will test it for sure ;) With 77kWh you will get around 290km Winterrange without Heatpump (130km/h speed). I will get my 77kWh next year.
Americans will get ID4 built in US in Chattanooga - more suited size-wise to USA
The Model 3 has about 10kWh less usable energy and yet the same range, you have to remember that. That is about 35% less electricity cost per mile.
@@marcusbiller867 Where did you get these infos? M3 SR+ 58 kWh, LR 75kWh. Far from 10kWh less
@@Tehamed21 No, the SR+ has 52kWh brand new, but they only give you 49kWh to 0%. You have to go below 0% to get 52kWh. Check out Bjorn Nyland range test SR+, he tested it
It's so funny how EVs flip the range thing. Now it's less range on the highway versus with petrol or diesel where range at 120kph can be almost 1000kms depending on engine.
Will you do a 1000 km challenge?
This sunday
Greetings from Romania! I see this is the way to greet, though it is a bit weird, still, I apologise for my compatriot in the blue Honda civic viii. The plate number caught my eye. I think parking ice on ev must have been a mob mentality thing. Too many cars to justify a honest mistake. The series where you compare cars, i think, or for me, is the most valuable, or the rarest. I am cross shopping 7 or 8 cars that are wildly different to each other... ranging from a smart fortwo, to a ioniq 5.... :D so keep weirding those comparisons out. When i'm done, i'll post a video with my crazy to this point experience with dealers. today mazda offered me a 30 minutes test drive for the mx-30, apparently mx-30 derives from its range, max 30 minutes. and yesterday the honda rep called me while eating. fun stuff, but i digress. keep up and bye
First test under these conditions. Good job - have seen it different //edited
Nope, he didn't do a full range test. He did a few tests all together.
And not to the starting point. So the consumption test is for nothing if you the elevation is different.
I started and ended at the same spot.
Battery Life you achieved the same result so it is not for nothing. But ok at a wine tasting some people take a sip and calculate that the rest of the bottle tastes a certain way and others drink the whole bottle and claim that they did a real test and it really tastes like expected.
I will edit my comment and not say that the title is a lie but will stick to more realistic videos in the future as I will never charge to 100% and drive till 2% like never ever. The real full range doesn’t matter at most EV cars because you are not using it the way as in a test scenario. Especially if the cars switch to eco mode and cut off the ac at a certain soc... no way I will charge before the AC is off for sure
Thank you
What a rubbish car! You can almost do this range on a 40 KW Leaf which is very inefficient and has no battery cooling.
Not at 130 km/h!!!!
@@BatteryLife Yes it can. That’s 70 mph. And with a much smaller battery and being useless as inefficient. That VW is a complete miss.
@@santisizable Nearly 81mph.
How big is the battery? I might have missed that...
58 kWh
@@BatteryLife Thanks 👍
1:27 du bist ja ganz in meiner Nähe unterwegs :) Hast du vor deinem Test in Passau geladen oder? :)
Ich wohne in Passau ;)
@@BatteryLife ach ja stimmt, du warst auch in der Zeitung oder? Na dann viel Spaß mit dem ID3 😊 ich werde den auf jeden Fall mal probefahren ☺️
I have been quite sick the last week so have watched only a little of your videos and not commented. But excellent tests and really happy you and your ID.3 are finally united 🥳😆!
Are you ok?
@@BatteryLife Yes I'm pretty okay now, thanks. It's a chronic medical condition (ME/CFS) I have that sometimes gets worse. But I'm used to it by now. I was watching most of this 130km/h live stream as well - so exiting and informative 😊! Happy driving!
O my GOD! You are more daring than TB by far. Autobahn is not tha place to run empty, but you just, "I'm fine..." :-)
I think Chris already knows his ID3 has a large buffer in the battery. You can go on after it goes to zero percentage, you will see the turtle mode.
@@edgy21 What can you tell us about the buffer? Some cars have it, some don't.
@@abraxastulammo9940 The EV cars of VW Group always have the buffer because it will protect and prolong their vehicles' battery life. The OTA can shrink that buffer over time.
@@edgy21 Was sagst du dazu?
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1 km beim Audi, wenns hochkommt...
11:07 when i see that a normal car you can change to LPG for intial invest of 700USD and have a price of 0,4USD/l witha range of 600km by 55l
i dont see a reason to buy a VW ID3 with 0,5USD/kW
But nobody cares about the USA.
The 2% stresses me out so much, but awesome test, thank you!
Well, stop earlier ;-)
Once you drive an EV for a while, and you learn how they work, it becomes less and less of an issue.
HoLiSchit, it stresses me out as well, but I figure Neil Blanchard is right, an experienced EV driver will probably think it less of an issue or none at all ;-)
I bet there's an additional small "secret" buffer not shown in the display ...that VW doesn't tell the driver of.
@@NeilBlanchard im driving a Kona with 39kw, maybe that's why I'm freaking out, the battery is so little and the car uses a bit more energy
Not bad, it's about what Tesla Model 3 does on 43kwh at these speeds, consumption is a bit high, Model 3 has same consumption at around 100 mph.. How wide are the front tires 235? How heavy is the car? (Model3 - 1575kg rwd to 1800 for awd)
Model 3 has a 15% better consumption but id3 has a 15% bigger battery. So for the range there is no difference
@@artem10789 How much is available in ID.3 battery? For Model3 it's 43kwh for SR and 10% more for SR+, so ID.3 might have even more range possibly available as Model3 hides a lot of battery for reserve in recent updates
TeslaScoop 58 kWh in id3 against 49 kWh In Model 3 sr+
@@artem10789 Is 58kwh available or total?
TeslaScoop available. 62 kWh total
Could you mention how much the trips costs when you do those vids.
Free. First Edition one year.
1st year free up to 2000 kWh.
If you only use Ionity it's € 0.79 / kWh for a drop-in. For us with the 1st edition of the ID.3 we get 2000 kWh for free the first year.
After that you can either use drop-in or pay for a subscription with cheaper charging costs (please check out We Charge Go and We Charge Plus): www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/2020/07/we-charge-volkswagens-new-charging-service-has-over-150-000-publ.html#
true, but Chris: on the 1K km of miles you made this weekend (including the kw @ pickup on Sat). How many kW have you charged INTO the car across that 1000 km? With that project cost of Ionity & Lvl2 (if they didn't have it free)?
Does it mention in the app which amount of free kWh is spent in total and each session?
I remember one charging session was 61something kWh.
The big question! Can you put rear facing child seat behind the passenger and still have someone sit in the seat without their knees pressed against the dash?
Try it