@@epiccgamner3567 why the fuck would anyone go out to state something so useless about someone stating something useless about someone stating something useless
Shout out to everyone who submitted pics, especially the new painters! It takes guts to do that. Remember to take the critiques seriously but NOT personally
@Nice Brain It's the difference between _knowing_ that fact and _feeling_ it. We aren't really mentally wired for anonymity in that way. Having a piece critiqued in front of your peers can be extremely uncomfortable, like you've been stripped naked and everyone is poking and examining your every inch. While the artists in this case do have the separation of the Internet to insulate them somewhat, our ape brains can only conceptualize that intellectually; it still _feels_ like you're being hauled in front of the class to be peeled and scrutinized like a dissected frog.
@@nicebrain6962 it's scary to post something that took you potentially 10 or 20 hours to make online knowing someone will critique your paint job and point out all your mistakes.
I'm currently a quarter way in and this is intimidating to even watch, but at the same time it's probably the healthiest thing I've ever watched when it comes to the hobby. We need more of this. Thank you.
This video is amazing. It really goes to show the difference between what an amateur (myself) sees in a miniature and what a way more experienced person sees. There were several models where I thought "hey that looks pretty dang good!" and once you started explaining the criticisms I was actually able to pick it out with my own eyes and understand more of what was going on during the painting process. You see things that I would have never picked up on. Great video, I learned a lot!
Don't forget to leave a like! If this video gets to 15.000 likes I will make a video where everyone can submit an entry and I will be critiquing every. single. one. You might have to share this with your friends, I am afraid otherwise we wont make it!
You definetly got a like from me. I think it's brilliant what you're doing. I've been painting for about a year now but there's not a single person in my life I could talk to about it, and you don't even know how I'd like to exchange ideas with someone and get any advice.
@@carnajom8831 Started watching videos in August, then bought my first minis & paints and dove into the hobby November 17th, 2020. Kept all my receipts to know how many Benjamins I'm spending on this "trash" ;D
Videos like these are beyond helpful when just starting out as a painter. Being able to see your own mistakes in other peoples paint jobs, then corrected by someone who has such a wealth of painting knowledge is so awesome. Thank you for everything you do, Trovarion your content is incredible.
When I started painting minis two years ago I was lucky to find trovarion. Best teacher out there. I have backed him on patreon ever since. A true professional 👏 👏 👏
This was great; your use of Photoshop to explain your points is exceptionally helpful. I'd like to see hear more about how to paint Tiamat (five-headed chromatic dragon); using multiple (in this case five different colors - and pulling them together in a compelling way. Thanks for the video!
I could be wrong, but my understanding of colours would mean you would need a brown/black body to draw all the colours in to. Not saying it's impossible, but the more colours to put together the harder to do it smoothly. I could be wrong though, it's happened before
This was amazing! The photoshop demonstrations on the models themselves took the advice to the next level. It's amazing because you can hear the advice, but seeing how such small adjustments can improve the results is so encouraging! Thanks for doing this.
This was BRUTAL..... but nobody can feel bad if they are all bad. This was no nonsense criticism and probably one of the most helpful videos about painting i have ever seen. Brilliant. 10/10 will watch again.
I think that we should have the information about their AGE and also since how long they have been painting. Being Honnest isn't bad at all but it can also hurting some painter who maybe just started in this universe. From adult position i think is faire but from youngster i think it's a little bit harsh. My opinion for sure.
@@AkibaAvenue Yeaah, i mean, he gave nice basic tips to apparently beginner paintjobs, and great advanced tips for clearly higher end painters, so i think everything is in line here.
The moment you started talking about how the next section would be different because it's a bit pretentious to say what is right or wrong based on creative artistic choices, I subbed. You're not only a legend of a painter, but you're a good human; with a lot of perspective. Not just about painting but life in general, that much is clear.
Man I wish id found this channel in time to submit a picture, the chance to get advice from somebody at this level is invaluable. Plenty of beginner friendly advice for me
I think it's kind of funny how much your helpful suggestions sound like the advice I heard in the aquarell class I took. 1) Never use the pur colours you bought. Always mix. 2) Shadows and highlights are a different colour than your base. 3) look out for your focus point. What's your composition? 4) where does the light come from and what does it touch. I like that minis and pictures are from a working perspective so similar. I think beginner's could learn also a lot from looking at other art. Some big portraits in oil for example. I know, I picked up a lot from going to a museum. Even Bob Ross thought me a thing or two. Thanks for the video. I think, I will try something with clothe next. You sparked some ideas in my brain. 😊
Hey I followed your advice from last week, and do have to say that it worked wonders. Changing between projects and different paint styles really motivated me to paint more. Thanks!
Thanks to all that submitted and the review of each model. I am addicted to watching painting videos on UA-cam and despite the thousands I have watched I learned more about painting from this one vid than the others combined. I have been painting for fun for years and leant things from the beginners submissions. Well done to the beginner folks, it takes a lot to put yourself out there for feedback however by doing this your painting will improve 10 fold. Well done everyone and sincere thanks
I am very impressed by the feedback. And the illustrations of what he was describing was invaluable. It also shows that the host is a true artist and not just a miniatures painter. I figure he could probably do a decent job on the Sistine chapel
Man, your intro didn’t have to out my inner monologue about my painting like that, also love the Warhammer Keanu Reeves bit. Classic and I can’t unsee it bro lol
There were some remarkable paint jobs in there and lots of good tips; the Photoshop segments really helped too. For me it was fascinating seeing you just talk through the very advanced painters, highlighting their stylistic choices vs. your preference, it helped me appreciate the models even more and also understand better what details you see as standing out most
I enjoyed watching these! If anyone who submitted reads this...ALL the submissions were MUCH BETTER than average, and several were really exceptionally good for an amateur! I hope they all appreciated & got some value from the critiques, I know I did! We all have room to learn & improve, and Trovarian is a GREAT TEACHER!💥❤💥
You gave some great advice in this video. I was worreid by people in the comments saying it's brutal, but at no point are you mean or disparaging. Sometimes people seem to forget that being a goodteacher/critic means being possitive and supportive so I'm glad you aren't just ruthless for the sake of seeming superior
This is one of the most insightful and meaningful miniature painting ‘tutorials’ I have personally seen. It’s FULL of great advice and tips for all levels. Big congrats to everyone who submitted figures.
As I get to the last 1/3 - 1/4 of this critique, I'm getting VERY IMPRESSED with the lovely job many of your followers are achieving! Far better than most of the "pro mini" painters on UA-cam. Are they as good as yours, or a couple other elite professional painters? No...but for hobbyists, OMG, they are REALLY GOOD. Makes me think as long as I keep practicing & learning from sources like Trovarian & Kujo Painting, I'll be able to make some I can be very proud of, too!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
This was so helpful! I improved massively after watching this video. With all the explanatins and the photoshop moments. I hope you make more of these videos.
Nothing new to say - everyone already commented on how useful the vid was - I thought it great, that you remained civilized and remained professionell the whole way through - respect for you.
Shes the queen of chromatic dragons its kinda the point, I painted my own tiamat though and I agree the white and black need to not start as pure colours
Your level of criticism is great. It's incredibly constructive and you don't sugar coat things, would love to submit a model I'm submitting for a local paint competition
This is a video from awhile ago and I’m not sure you will see this comment but this is my favorite miniature painting video of all time. I don’t interact with others who paint so the feedback is invaluable to me and listening to your reviews of these minis will really accelerate my progress. Thank you!
The way you actually show how to improve rather than just explain is amazing. The blood angel shield was incredible after you quickly added shadows. Thank you!
Thank you for another great video This was so insightful and I learned so much so thank you for being so honest with your followers and patreons And everything presented in a 'eavy European accent is just the cherry on top 🍒
I thought it was going to be hilarious ripping on awful paint jobs. You understand painting from the bottom up and can relate and articulate the most useful information across the entire spectrum. Awesome, and thank you for the video.
Right now not much time to see the full video(I will continue) but at 8:30 the example is amazing for my understanding.Editing the edge highlights allows me to see the bigger picture.Thx!!!
For all my time spent watching mini painting videos I keep getting shocked by finding UA-camrs I've never heard of with great content. This was a great critique. Gotta start watching your tutorials because I love seeing different approaches
I agree with your comment on contrast or speed paints, I've started to use them like I use to use washes. Then I use dry brushing to get layering and highlights.
I'm enjoying this. Not sure how much I'd have listened personally though, when I first started painting. I was around 6 and it took me like 2 years to thin my paints, despite being told constantly by older hobbyists. I think it's great to do this though, and help the new painters. I feel the level in general has gone up so much since the internet though. I see so many nice armies by new guys.
I absolutely love your advice - the effort you put in, how quickly you improve the look of the models and how you are calm and generous with your technique feedback. What an absolute legend you are.
A MasterClass in miniature painting and art concepts for free. Thanks Trovarion for this video. Very cool! One of your most unique brilliant skills is your ability to analyze and provide useful , honest, direct feedback. Great learning experience. I don’t know if everyone realizes that Trovarion is a multiple Golden Demon winner. None of the feedback he is providing is meant with any negativity. He just has an observant eye and a teacher’s manner of giving information to use for improvement. Thumbs up for everyone who submitted their work for review (like homework) and kudos to Trovarion for also honestly reviewing and giving solid advice
I actually really loved the Gold Necron. The one where the brush strokes are a bit rough but I think it looks really great. If the painter sees this - I see you! Good job :D
This is a great video. I can really relate to some of the issues and comments - it’s often hard to self critique and your comments provide some great points on what to look out for and improve upon. This is a video, that for me, is probably worth coming back to every 6 months or so!
As an intermediate painter there's a lot of good tips here. Really like where you show what you mean by photoshoping as you explain. Also, big applause to everyone who sent in their minis to be critiqued, especially the beginner ones!
Its so helpful being shown what the changes you suggest do in real time. Particularly with more extreme gradients, which is something I struggle with myself!
that last marine was stunning. super smooth blending. I agree that the extra highlights make it better but they look incredible aswell without them. super nice painting style imo Tasso
I really liked the feddback on the first miniatures. Because those tips will help a lot of people a ton. You gave some nice feedback on painting TT-minis in general that I need to keep in mind. I'am mainly focused in larger scale miniatures and busts and therefore still strugle with painting smaller miniatures. Bigger miniatures are imho easier to paint. So kudos to everyone who paints those little bastards. Woohoo ... that was long. Thanks for the love. I would add some more critque to my miniature (milb0r's Zombie Detective). Besides from the obvious lack of detail within the hat (I just couldn't paint on on it. I wasted hours on textures that I toned down later to a state where they aren't readable anymore). I noticed that the highlight-intensity on the upper lip is kinda turned upsidedown. I wanted the eyes to stand out and by the main-focus. I pre-sketched a way harsher shadow around the eyes, cast by the hat, but lost this harschness throughout the painting process ... not sure if this is a good or bad thing. Cheers!
Warhammer Keanu’s “you’re breathtaking!” absolutely cracked me up! Funny stuff, and then a great video on top of that. I’m too scared to submit anything because I can’t edge highlight or paint smooth lines because I have shitty arthritic hands.
I loved this vid! Using photoshop to help show where an artist can improved is a great teaching tool - often these style videos are like "do better" , "contrast contrast", "saturation" however your explanations are of great quality.
I have to agree with Chaw about the helpfulness of photoshopping the changes. Explaining things and showing them are two different things. Submissions (including anywhere minis are judged) makes it very hard to do so with a black background. Not for judging is fine as it can really give atmosphere to the figure. Otherwise dark figures blend into the background and cannot therefore be accurately judged. It makes me wonder what is trying to be hidden by it. In this case I always knock off a point.
For some reason I always thought that Games workshop had honed in on the best way to paint the miniatures they produce but now that I watch this vid, I realise I thought that because I was just over loaded with Games workshop tutorials and info and didn't broaden my horizon. Thanks for such a great video and not shying away from actual criticism!
I think their style is good at showing you what you’re going to get when you buy a miniature - it’s probably the right choice for that particular application.
Why the fuck would anyone watch this
Why the fuck would anyone go out of their way to state something so useless
@Griffin Does
Why the fuck would anyone go out to state something so useless about someone stating something useless
@@epiccgamner3567 why the fuck would anyone go out to state something so useless about someone stating something useless about someone stating something useless
Why would anyone sit through an art class critique session? Hopefully to learn and improve.
Hahahaha I love this shit
The demonstrations you did in photoshop were immensely helpful.
Came down here to say the same thing, so useful!
Yeah I’ve not seen anyone else do this, so helpful to visually see what he is explaining, great video
Ditto!
ye big time!!!
Agreed 100%
It's a great teaching aid, I know exactly what he's trying to say without having to be familiar with the terms
Shout out to everyone who submitted pics, especially the new painters! It takes guts to do that. Remember to take the critiques seriously but NOT personally
What they did helps everyone.
@@DerAua oh for sure!! I might have the balls to show my poor painting attempts to people now.
@Nice Brain It's the difference between _knowing_ that fact and _feeling_ it. We aren't really mentally wired for anonymity in that way.
Having a piece critiqued in front of your peers can be extremely uncomfortable, like you've been stripped naked and everyone is poking and examining your every inch. While the artists in this case do have the separation of the Internet to insulate them somewhat, our ape brains can only conceptualize that intellectually; it still _feels_ like you're being hauled in front of the class to be peeled and scrutinized like a dissected frog.
@@nicebrain6962 it's scary to post something that took you potentially 10 or 20 hours to make online knowing someone will critique your paint job and point out all your mistakes.
It's all fun and games until you have to remove knuckle mold lines from 120 Boyz
Just started collecting orks and I felt this to my core.
@@dawnofwarspacemarine Just tell people that your Orks really believe that they have lines over their knuckles, problem solved. :^)
@@daxidol1447 that's so meta 200IQ xD
Uh-oh.
or 10000000 necrons :D
6:27 Me: Wow that's a nice paintjob
Trovarion: Disgusting
Me: Disgusting
:D
Omg that looks tasty
Artist Ramsay: It's raw
Me: Raw
I really liked it as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
god of chromatic dragons: exists
Trovarion: "too chromatic!"
god of chromatic dragons: awww :(
I thought that too. Don't use too many chromatics... on Tiamat Godess of Chromatic Dragons.
Came here to say this. I get the critique, but Tiamat is supposed to have 5 heads of five different colors. Those, specific, colors...
Lol
I know its not very realistic, but I actually really like the matte vampire at 6:27!
The effort you went to showing your take in photoshop is really helpful. You could do that forever and I'd watch every video.
I'm currently a quarter way in and this is intimidating to even watch, but at the same time it's probably the healthiest thing I've ever watched when it comes to the hobby. We need more of this.
Thank you.
This video is amazing. It really goes to show the difference between what an amateur (myself) sees in a miniature and what a way more experienced person sees. There were several models where I thought "hey that looks pretty dang good!" and once you started explaining the criticisms I was actually able to pick it out with my own eyes and understand more of what was going on during the painting process. You see things that I would have never picked up on. Great video, I learned a lot!
Don't forget to leave a like! If this video gets to 15.000 likes I will make a video where everyone can submit an entry and I will be critiquing every. single. one.
You might have to share this with your friends, I am afraid otherwise we wont make it!
You definetly got a like from me. I think it's brilliant what you're doing. I've been painting for about a year now but there's not a single person in my life I could talk to about it, and you don't even know how I'd like to exchange ideas with someone and get any advice.
You're a madman
@@ethanjungbauer1554 true story!
even wips, if so i got a couple to say the least lol...
@@onedollarminiatures. definitely no WIPs
Damn, nice to see the work you've put into this. Amazing to see the "tips and changes" directly applied via Photoshop.
Thumbs up for the photoshop examples! :)
@Tasso Now I need to know how long you've been painting for...
@@carnajom8831 Started watching videos in August, then bought my first minis & paints and dove into the hobby November 17th, 2020. Kept all my receipts to know how many Benjamins I'm spending on this "trash" ;D
@@HeyImTasso That's amazing. What have I been doing with my time!!!! Also, I've chucked away all my receipts for same reason.
39:35 That is such a great paint job, wow!
Agreed, I think it's only one, where Trovarion's highlights were actually ruining it.
Anyone know if the person has any socials? Would love to take a look at method and paint recipe for my necrons!
Videos like these are beyond helpful when just starting out as a painter. Being able to see your own mistakes in other peoples paint jobs, then corrected by someone who has such a wealth of painting knowledge is so awesome. Thank you for everything you do, Trovarion your content is incredible.
When I started painting minis two years ago I was lucky to find trovarion. Best teacher out there. I have backed him on patreon ever since. A true professional 👏 👏 👏
This was great; your use of Photoshop to explain your points is exceptionally helpful. I'd like to see hear more about how to paint Tiamat (five-headed chromatic dragon); using multiple (in this case five different colors - and pulling them together in a compelling way. Thanks for the video!
I could be wrong, but my understanding of colours would mean you would need a brown/black body to draw all the colours in to. Not saying it's impossible, but the more colours to put together the harder to do it smoothly. I could be wrong though, it's happened before
The photoshop stuff is so helpful !
This was amazing! The photoshop demonstrations on the models themselves took the advice to the next level. It's amazing because you can hear the advice, but seeing how such small adjustments can improve the results is so encouraging! Thanks for doing this.
The lighting on your face is a really smart touch to this video, we're constantly being reminded of how lighting affects surfaces. Kudos ;)
you should do side by side/before and after pictures of your photoshopped versions and the original pictures, just to really see the impact
Lol honesty is the dopest form of currency.
Learning alot from the critique and demonstrations, thanks!
This was BRUTAL..... but nobody can feel bad if they are all bad. This was no nonsense criticism and probably one of the most helpful videos about painting i have ever seen. Brilliant. 10/10 will watch again.
I think that we should have the information about their AGE and also since how long they have been painting.
Being Honnest isn't bad at all but it can also hurting some painter who maybe just started in this universe.
From adult position i think is faire but from youngster i think it's a little bit harsh.
My opinion for sure.
I wouldn't say any of this was brutal. It's just quality feedback with a straightforward delivery.
If this was "brutal" life is going to be really hard for you.
@@AkibaAvenue Yeaah, i mean, he gave nice basic tips to apparently beginner paintjobs, and great advanced tips for clearly higher end painters, so i think everything is in line here.
@@thenevergrown5009 Sure all his advices are for super helpful. Nothing wrong.
The moment you started talking about how the next section would be different because it's a bit pretentious to say what is right or wrong based on creative artistic choices, I subbed. You're not only a legend of a painter, but you're a good human; with a lot of perspective. Not just about painting but life in general, that much is clear.
Man I wish id found this channel in time to submit a picture, the chance to get advice from somebody at this level is invaluable. Plenty of beginner friendly advice for me
That one is the most useful video about painting miniatures I saw in 1 year
I think it's kind of funny how much your helpful suggestions sound like the advice I heard in the aquarell class I took.
1) Never use the pur colours you bought. Always mix.
2) Shadows and highlights are a different colour than your base.
3) look out for your focus point. What's your composition?
4) where does the light come from and what does it touch.
I like that minis and pictures are from a working perspective so similar. I think beginner's could learn also a lot from looking at other art. Some big portraits in oil for example. I know, I picked up a lot from going to a museum. Even Bob Ross thought me a thing or two.
Thanks for the video. I think, I will try something with clothe next. You sparked some ideas in my brain. 😊
Hey I followed your advice from last week, and do have to say that it worked wonders.
Changing between projects and different paint styles really motivated me to paint more. Thanks!
Thanks to all that submitted and the review of each model. I am addicted to watching painting videos on UA-cam and despite the thousands I have watched I learned more about painting from this one vid than the others combined. I have been painting for fun for years and leant things from the beginners submissions. Well done to the beginner folks, it takes a lot to put yourself out there for feedback however by doing this your painting will improve 10 fold. Well done everyone and sincere thanks
I am very impressed by the feedback. And the illustrations of what he was describing was invaluable. It also shows that the host is a true artist and not just a miniatures painter. I figure he could probably do a decent job on the Sistine chapel
Great video! Thanks for the feedback!! Yes the deep creases on the face were a pain. Everyone's feedback was mega helpful
Man, your intro didn’t have to out my inner monologue about my painting like that, also love the Warhammer Keanu Reeves bit. Classic and I can’t unsee it bro lol
There were some remarkable paint jobs in there and lots of good tips; the Photoshop segments really helped too. For me it was fascinating seeing you just talk through the very advanced painters, highlighting their stylistic choices vs. your preference, it helped me appreciate the models even more and also understand better what details you see as standing out most
I enjoyed watching these! If anyone who submitted reads this...ALL the submissions were MUCH BETTER than average, and several were really exceptionally good for an amateur! I hope they all appreciated & got some value from the critiques, I know I did! We all have room to learn & improve, and Trovarian is a GREAT TEACHER!💥❤💥
You gave some great advice in this video. I was worreid by people in the comments saying it's brutal, but at no point are you mean or disparaging. Sometimes people seem to forget that being a goodteacher/critic means being possitive and supportive so I'm glad you aren't just ruthless for the sake of seeming superior
This is helpful, I see some of what I do in these videos. Thanks for those who submitted them
The photoshop adjustments you made we super helpful! Really drive home what you were saying each time you made those adjustments.
This is one of the most insightful and meaningful miniature painting ‘tutorials’ I have personally seen. It’s FULL of great advice and tips for all levels. Big congrats to everyone who submitted figures.
I love how good a reference this video is for skin tone with a warm light source one side and cold one the other
You are constantly making the best miniature painting content on the platform.
As I get to the last 1/3 - 1/4 of this critique, I'm getting VERY IMPRESSED with the lovely job many of your followers are achieving! Far better than most of the "pro mini" painters on UA-cam.
Are they as good as yours, or a couple other elite professional painters? No...but for hobbyists, OMG, they are REALLY GOOD. Makes me think as long as I keep practicing & learning from sources like Trovarian & Kujo Painting, I'll be able to make some I can be very proud of, too!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Of course you can!
The photoshop demostrations makes it so much easier to understand what you would like to see changed. Never stop doing that. It is very valuable.
i love the use of photoshop in these videos. do more like this. so informative
One of the best videos you’ve shot. You really show how much thought goes into each model.
This was so helpful! I improved massively after watching this video. With all the explanatins and the photoshop moments.
I hope you make more of these videos.
It's awesome to have an austrian painter here on UA-cam! 😁
I've only been watching for maybe half a minute and I'm already enjoying it. I'm adding this to my watch list!
Nothing new to say - everyone already commented on how useful the vid was - I thought it great, that you remained civilized and remained professionell the whole way through - respect for you.
That dragon is a miniature of the Dragon Queen Tiamat in Dungeons and Dragons, she literally looks like that.
Shes the queen of chromatic dragons its kinda the point, I painted my own tiamat though and I agree the white and black need to not start as pure colours
@@PureCellx fair enough hoenstly, black and white don't need to be the pure colour, I find that a very light blue can often be a great base of white.
Thanks for including mine! Really appreciate the feedback :)
Your level of criticism is great. It's incredibly constructive and you don't sugar coat things, would love to submit a model I'm submitting for a local paint competition
This is a video from awhile ago and I’m not sure you will see this comment but this is my favorite miniature painting video of all time. I don’t interact with others who paint so the feedback is invaluable to me and listening to your reviews of these minis will really accelerate my progress. Thank you!
The way you actually show how to improve rather than just explain is amazing. The blood angel shield was incredible after you quickly added shadows. Thank you!
Thank you for another great video
This was so insightful and I learned so much so thank you for being so honest with your followers and patreons
And everything presented in a 'eavy European accent is just the cherry on top 🍒
Marvelous video as always Uncle Trov! :D
I love critiquing videos, they're very informative and helpful.
I thought it was going to be hilarious ripping on awful paint jobs. You understand painting from the bottom up and can relate and articulate the most useful information across the entire spectrum. Awesome, and thank you for the video.
Right now not much time to see the full video(I will continue) but at 8:30 the example is amazing for my understanding.Editing the edge highlights allows me to see the bigger picture.Thx!!!
Big up Christoph for absolute gold advice throughout.
Very informative video. Just started mini painting in recent weeks and this has been very helpful. Thank you.
For all my time spent watching mini painting videos I keep getting shocked by finding UA-camrs I've never heard of with great content. This was a great critique. Gotta start watching your tutorials because I love seeing different approaches
Your videos and advices deserve as much praise as your miniatures :)
Great advices ! It's nice to see you have an advice for any painting lvl people are on. Look forward to the next one!
I agree with your comment on contrast or speed paints, I've started to use them like I use to use washes. Then I use dry brushing to get layering and highlights.
I'm enjoying this. Not sure how much I'd have listened personally though, when I first started painting. I was around 6 and it took me like 2 years to thin my paints, despite being told constantly by older hobbyists.
I think it's great to do this though, and help the new painters. I feel the level in general has gone up so much since the internet though. I see so many nice armies by new guys.
Really enjoyed your honest feedback here
I absolutely love your advice - the effort you put in, how quickly you improve the look of the models and how you are calm and generous with your technique feedback.
What an absolute legend you are.
A MasterClass in miniature painting and art concepts for free. Thanks Trovarion for this video. Very cool! One of your most unique brilliant skills is your ability to analyze and provide useful , honest, direct feedback. Great learning experience. I don’t know if everyone realizes that Trovarion is a multiple Golden Demon winner. None of the feedback he is providing is meant with any negativity. He just has an observant eye and a teacher’s manner of giving information to use for improvement. Thumbs up for everyone who submitted their work for review (like homework) and kudos to Trovarion for also honestly reviewing and giving solid advice
I have learned SO much from this video. Watching you critique paint jobs that I find amazing has really been helpful :)
I actually really loved the Gold Necron. The one where the brush strokes are a bit rough but I think it looks really great. If the painter sees this - I see you! Good job :D
Awesome. Thanks!
Comments for the algorithm!
This is a great video. I can really relate to some of the issues and comments - it’s often hard to self critique and your comments provide some great points on what to look out for and improve upon. This is a video, that for me, is probably worth coming back to every 6 months or so!
Thanks for the video! You using the program where you take a photo of the mini and adjust the colors is so helpful, thanks!
Fantastic. Really the best painting advice and criticism I've ever seen. Loved the photoshop cut aways, must have taken quite the editing!
Oh yeah...this video took like 3 days just to edit :D
I really liked the @53:25 looks like concept art or something like that
My god, so much good advice. Especially the PS sections!
Love the honest feedback.
Great models all and a helpful video of critique. Happy modelling!
As an intermediate painter there's a lot of good tips here. Really like where you show what you mean by photoshoping as you explain.
Also, big applause to everyone who sent in their minis to be critiqued, especially the beginner ones!
Whoever did the Overlord: You rock my guy
Can I just say you are a fantastic teacher. I've just started my mini journey aged nearly 62😂 so will be watching and studying lots.
Its so helpful being shown what the changes you suggest do in real time. Particularly with more extreme gradients, which is something I struggle with myself!
Comment for the algorithm! May it please the machine spirit!
Solely for the warhammer Keanu line hahaha
Honestly this is one of the most helpful videos I've seen in years. It felt like every model you commented on was an "aha" moment for me lol.
this umber is RAW!
But jokes aside, this is a really nice video !
that last marine was stunning. super smooth blending. I agree that the extra highlights make it better but they look incredible aswell without them. super nice painting style imo Tasso
Appreciate the wonderful constructive criticism. Learned a lot.
I really liked the feddback on the first miniatures. Because those tips will help a lot of people a ton.
You gave some nice feedback on painting TT-minis in general that I need to keep in mind. I'am mainly focused in larger scale miniatures and busts and therefore still strugle with painting smaller miniatures. Bigger miniatures are imho easier to paint. So kudos to everyone who paints those little bastards.
Woohoo ... that was long. Thanks for the love. I would add some more critque to my miniature (milb0r's Zombie Detective). Besides from the obvious lack of detail within the hat (I just couldn't paint on on it. I wasted hours on textures that I toned down later to a state where they aren't readable anymore). I noticed that the highlight-intensity on the upper lip is kinda turned upsidedown. I wanted the eyes to stand out and by the main-focus. I pre-sketched a way harsher shadow around the eyes, cast by the hat, but lost this harschness throughout the painting process ... not sure if this is a good or bad thing.
Cheers!
Wow Trov, great video! This is like, some kind of high budget Vince Venturella production.
I would pay to see that
The help you do on PS is phenominal, thank you!
this video is really helpful! the use of an editing program makes it easy to visualiz
Warhammer Keanu’s “you’re breathtaking!” absolutely cracked me up! Funny stuff, and then a great video on top of that. I’m too scared to submit anything because I can’t edge highlight or paint smooth lines because I have shitty arthritic hands.
I loved this vid! Using photoshop to help show where an artist can improved is a great teaching tool - often these style videos are like "do better" , "contrast contrast", "saturation" however your explanations are of great quality.
I have to agree with Chaw about the helpfulness of photoshopping the changes. Explaining things and showing them are two different things. Submissions (including anywhere minis are judged) makes it very hard to do so with a black background. Not for judging is fine as it can really give atmosphere to the figure. Otherwise dark figures blend into the background and cannot therefore be accurately judged. It makes me wonder what is trying to be hidden by it. In this case I always knock off a point.
Possibly the most helpful video ever
I really appreciate some good criticism. This video is fantastic for that.
Thanks man! This video is pure gold.
The photoshop is what makes this video. Kujo did the same thing and it's really effective at backing up your critique. Hope to see more of this
These critiques are super helpful. I'm glad you give real criticism, like an art teacher.
when you started painting the images it became perfectly clear how i can improve!! thank you!
this was actually full of useful info - subbed
Learning a lot from this video, thanks so much!
For some reason I always thought that Games workshop had honed in on the best way to paint the miniatures they produce but now that I watch this vid, I realise I thought that because I was just over loaded with Games workshop tutorials and info and didn't broaden my horizon. Thanks for such a great video and not shying away from actual criticism!
I think their style is good at showing you what you’re going to get when you buy a miniature - it’s probably the right choice for that particular application.