Woah! Didn't expect to see a video like this but am pleasantly enthralled by the idea getting some different takes is never a bad idea especially when it comes to the dynasty warriors.
@@NoelJohnCarlo I see Cao Cao as the cool bad boy type. He's an asshole, but like Megatron, you like him despite/because of that. He's the epic villain you love to fight.
Yo Nightowl. I got completely blasted one night and took a stroll down memory lane with DW vids and stumbled across your channel. Been binge watching it since, so glad i found your channel in a drunken stupor! Love your content!
Well since I made my tier list in the comments for Shu, here is mine for Wei. And obviously it goes without saying that I love the video and think this idea is super fun and I'm really enjoying watching what all you content creators think :). Cheers! Wei: S: Xiahou Dun, Cao Pi, Zhang Liao, Jia Xu, Cao Cao A: Li Dian, Yue Jin, Xiahou Yuan, Xun Yu, Wang Yi B: Guo Jia, Man Chong, Zhang He, Zhen Ji, Dian Wei, Yu Jin C: Xu Huang, Pang De, Cao Ren, Cao Xiu D: Xu Zhu, Xun You F: Cai Wenji Part of me wanted to put Zhang He higher but I don't like his newer versions as much. I remember in DW3 and DW4 he was easily S tier for me, he almost had this arrogant, sly, menacing aspect to his persona that seems to have been lost over time in favor of amplifying the comedic relief of his obsession over beauty, which is a shame and why he is only B tier. As for Xu Huang, Cao Ren, and Pang De I really love all 3 of them based on their weapons and role in the novel/history, but they all fall too much into the general stoic warrior type. I think they each need more attention/spotlight in the story and to further develop or differentiate their character some more and they could move up.
I would’ve put Zhen Ji in S. To me, she’s one of the most iconic Wei characters and her flute moveset was my favorite in DW5: Empires. She can crowd control so well. The whip fits the personality they give her, but her flute is so fun and nonsensical. Also, it’s worth noting that she’s one of the only wives that made it into the game before her husband did. She’s also the historians’ favorite; I don’t know how much I trust the accounts about her life, but if they’re true, she was a really upstanding and adept woman. It makes me wish we could see more of the academic side of Zhen Ji in the games.
Well, this was very pleasant to watch. It's cool that you got all these creators to team up. I enjoyed the vid and look forward to seeing other parts! Some sweet, sweet justice for Xu Huang! I did not expect to hear so much praise for my favorite character, this felt great! Also, watching this video made me realize how much of a flop Man Chong turned out to be as a character. And I think I would have placed Cao Pi much much lower and Cao Xiu - significantly higher, but that's just my take.
Cai Wenji made sense for strikeforce it’s a bit out there and mythical But soon as she comes into the main game, downgraded weapon wise, she just disappeared much like the 8XL stage about finding her Then the whip just absolutely isn’t her at all. The erhu is her definitive weapon and she really should get back onto it
Zhen Ji, Zhang He, Xu Huang, Cao Pi, Cao Cao and Jia Xu are the standouts out of the Wei officers for me. I respect Zhang Liao, Xiahou Dun and Xiahou Yuan for the movesets and story involvement. Xun Yu was so fun in 8E but he got boring, especially when they just add all those Wei strategists in 9.
Unlike most people who love Zhang Liao for his feats in Wei. I absolutely love him for his friendship and loyalty to Lu Bu. If Lu Bu never was executed, I think Zhang Liao would have never left his side. The hypothetical route in DW8 for Lu Bu we got to see a lot of that and especially in just any DW game, their relationship may be one of my favs. Lu Bu would never betray Zhang Liao and I think Zhang Liao really took that to heart seeing as how Lu Bu betrays everyone and so Zhang Liao could never betray Lu Bu.
Man some of the reasons for making people B or C tier was mindboggling. One guy said he didn't know a character and their move set was ok or they didn't know it. Then proceed to say for two different characters one was a C or D tier and the other on was a B tier. With the same criteria.
@@TheNightowlGaming the games are not as cool as dynasty warriors in my opinion but a lot of the characters are basically reflections of dynasty warrior characters for the most part
37:20-37:30. That might be one of my biggest issues with Wei's story. People like Yu Jin did a WHOLE LOT more in history then what the games show, and it would really be easy to show at least some of this. It is especially annoying for Yu Jin and Cao Xiu, with them being known almost all for their defect at the end of their time in the army, when for just two cases of what else they did, Yu Jin held off a attack by forces of Yuan Shao's army who attacked him while Cao Cao's main force was putting down Liu Bei's revolt in Xu, while Yu Jin was fairly outnumbered, while Cao Xiu led a preemptive attack and utterly demolished a Wu force in 226 when Sun Quan was building a force to attack them on hearing of Cao Pi's death.
oh definitely but the way the games show them is like nothing really happens for them until their downfall battles, I guess cao xiu they explored a little more in dw9 but yu jin just shows up for fan castle, it is bad
I like the Shu story line but Wu characters was where it’s at for me. Character design,family motives, over all bad ass red team. Can’t wait for that video
I mean it’s an “Eh” kinda thing for the overall Wei Tier opinions. I can’t believe the newcomers for 9 aren’t looked at properly. For me, I always give them a chance, they’re criminally underrated. Cao Xiu for sure deserved a lot better under my wing. I do like his weapon tbh, I’m aware that some may not like his splay blade, but I’ve mastered it in 9 Empires. (At least it’s 100x better than Zhong Hui’s splay blade - I’m biased pfft) Zhang Liao definitely is S Tier for sure, I’ve always liked him. However, it’s his weapon that I’m trying to get used to, but I’m finding difficulty in mastering him. Cao Cao I’d also put at S Tier cuz after all, he is the man of ambition. I like his moveset too. There’s a lot to cover, but I feel like I should end mine here. I usually don’t do tier lists, but this is alright I suppose.
And there's nothing wrong with that! That's what makes the game so great, everyone has got their ranging opinions and at the end of it, we still love the same game :)
@@TheNightowlGaming heheh, you know what they say. If they're not ranked well, I might as well prove their might and potential myself and outrank 'em all lol
My personal Wei tier list, because why not, I'd forget about it otherwise, and I'll do it for the other kingdoms too. (in order of how I feel about them, also excluding DW9, never have, nor will I play it) S: Cao Cao, Xiahou Dun, Zhang Liao, Yu Jin, Wang Yi A: Jia Xu, Guo Jia, Pang De, Xu Huang, Dian Wei B: Cao Pi, Xiahou Yuan, Zhang He, Xu Zhu, Cao Ren C: Zhen Ji, Yue Jin, Li Dian D: Cai Wenji
He got close! Max points a character can get is 80, 10 per S, 8 per A, 7 per B 71 is needed for S - Cao Cao had 70! (5 S = 50 + 2 A = 16 + 2 B = 14 ---> 50 +16 +14 = 70) Just missed it! Definitely a good character though 😁
Zhenji is the best girl! Hahahahahahha But I'm super biased, for me Wei has the best characters overall, but Zhen deserves to be in the S tier and Cai Wenji in A, or S, too. Great video!
amazing video for the wei heroes in the dynasty warriors and my fav wei are zhang he zhang lino yue jin xun you xiahou dun guo jia wang yi zheji cao pi cao cao and last yu jin🥰
Dian Wei was by far my favorite character. The way they did him dirty with the ball and chain in 6 really put a bad taste in my mouth. I just can't see a reason for doing it. He already had a relatively unique move set with his hand axe. The axe throw was by far my favorite way to dispatch hoards of peons. The way that he dies so early defending Cao Cao was disappointing, but it was a valiant effort without his trusty axe.
An again just because. S. Li Dian, Xu Huang, Guo Jia, Pang De, Yue Jin, Jia Xu A. Yu Jin, Zhang Liao, Xun You, Dian Wei, Xiahou Dun B. Man Chong, Cao Ren, Zhang He, Cao Pi, Zhen Ji, Cao Cao C. Wang Yi, Xiahou Yuan, Xun Yu D. Cai Wenji, Cao Xiu, Xu Zhu
Taking away the scepter from Xun Yu was definitely a downgrade; I get magic wasn't the most realistic thing to give him but it was just so good for him and unique
My Wei Character Tiers… Zhang He: A Zhang Liao: C Yue Jin: D Pang De: C Xu Huang: F Xun Yu: A Xun You: S Xiahou Yuan: C Xiahou Dun: C Jia Xu: A Guo Jia: B Xu Zhu: D Man Chong: B Wang Yi: B Li Dian: D Cai Wenji: C Zhen Ji: B Cao Pi: B Cao Ren: C Cao Xui: C Cao Cao: B Dian Wei: D Yu Jin: A
@@TheNightowlGaming I noticed while doing this that there’s only 1 I especially love and 1 I especially hate. The rest are all in between so Wei for me is the one I’m least drawn to just bc they have the least I love.
I don't usually judge other people's preference but holy shit, Serious Trivia has really really bad taste. Xiahou yuan at B? Guo jia at C? Meanwhile Xu zhu at S? That annoying dumb fat ass that has zero relevancy in this series? S tier? Really?
It’s so cool that you got Serious Trivia included! I love his content.
Thats amazing! He was so fun to work with!
Woah! Didn't expect to see a video like this but am pleasantly enthralled by the idea getting some different takes is never a bad idea especially when it comes to the dynasty warriors.
Glad you liked it!
Cao Pi and Zhen Ji are two of my favorites!
Nice!
Cao Cao is an obvious S tier .. He's either the main hero or main villain.. Movesets are usually good
I consider him as the Main Hero
@@NoelJohnCarlo I see Cao Cao as the cool bad boy type. He's an asshole, but like Megatron, you like him despite/because of that. He's the epic villain you love to fight.
You got serious trivia? Bro that is epic AF ❤️❤️
haha yep! cool guy to work with!
Yo Nightowl. I got completely blasted one night and took a stroll down memory lane with DW vids and stumbled across your channel. Been binge watching it since, so glad i found your channel in a drunken stupor! Love your content!
Haha probably one of the best ways I've heard someone come across my channel lol! Appreciate it! Glad you're enjoying it!
Well since I made my tier list in the comments for Shu, here is mine for Wei. And obviously it goes without saying that I love the video and think this idea is super fun and I'm really enjoying watching what all you content creators think :). Cheers!
Wei:
S: Xiahou Dun, Cao Pi, Zhang Liao, Jia Xu, Cao Cao
A: Li Dian, Yue Jin, Xiahou Yuan, Xun Yu, Wang Yi
B: Guo Jia, Man Chong, Zhang He, Zhen Ji, Dian Wei, Yu Jin
C: Xu Huang, Pang De, Cao Ren, Cao Xiu
D: Xu Zhu, Xun You
F: Cai Wenji
Part of me wanted to put Zhang He higher but I don't like his newer versions as much. I remember in DW3 and DW4 he was easily S tier for me, he almost had this arrogant, sly, menacing aspect to his persona that seems to have been lost over time in favor of amplifying the comedic relief of his obsession over beauty, which is a shame and why he is only B tier. As for Xu Huang, Cao Ren, and Pang De I really love all 3 of them based on their weapons and role in the novel/history, but they all fall too much into the general stoic warrior type. I think they each need more attention/spotlight in the story and to further develop or differentiate their character some more and they could move up.
For sure, solid list!
Ayo something for me to watch before stream 👏
This guy 😏😏
I would’ve put Zhen Ji in S. To me, she’s one of the most iconic Wei characters and her flute moveset was my favorite in DW5: Empires. She can crowd control so well. The whip fits the personality they give her, but her flute is so fun and nonsensical. Also, it’s worth noting that she’s one of the only wives that made it into the game before her husband did.
She’s also the historians’ favorite; I don’t know how much I trust the accounts about her life, but if they’re true, she was a really upstanding and adept woman. It makes me wish we could see more of the academic side of Zhen Ji in the games.
Very interesting to see different opinions. Serious trivia is another channel I've seen occasionally
Nicee!! Glad you liked it!
My three favorites, Serious Trivia, KCZ and The Nightowl in one video 😭 this video about to get taken down for awesomeness overload.
Hahaha glad you enjoyed it! Next part coming soon ! 😬😁
Well, this was very pleasant to watch. It's cool that you got all these creators to team up. I enjoyed the vid and look forward to seeing other parts!
Some sweet, sweet justice for Xu Huang! I did not expect to hear so much praise for my favorite character, this felt great! Also, watching this video made me realize how much of a flop Man Chong turned out to be as a character. And I think I would have placed Cao Pi much much lower and Cao Xiu - significantly higher, but that's just my take.
Im glad you enjoued it!
Loved the collab here! Really hope we get to see more of this
3 more parts coming ! 👀👀
@@TheNightowlGaming Shweeet!
I like this, it is nice to see collaboration of people that like the same thing, when is the next one?
When I get done editing it 😆 should be in a week or so?
Cai Wenji made sense for strikeforce it’s a bit out there and mythical
But soon as she comes into the main game, downgraded weapon wise, she just disappeared much like the 8XL stage about finding her
Then the whip just absolutely isn’t her at all. The erhu is her definitive weapon and she really should get back onto it
Would love to see her with the erhu and more content!
Love this collab. Cool to hear everyone's point of view.
appreciate u! Also you should definitely catch up on what happened last night.. 👀
Meth filled me in. Jill and coven are ruthless.
Calling ZhenJi an average looking officer 😱. Cai Wenji just needs more done with her story and should be dropped into the other faction if you ask me
Cai Wenji is pretty average, her musou is bad... She adds nothing to the story... Should've been a Unique NPC instead of a playable character...
hehe yee she aint for me, but I definitely respect her, Iconic character
@@TheNightowlGamingngl was never big on her moveset but her dw 9 design was peak and easily the best looking girl in 9
Zhen Ji, Zhang He, Xu Huang, Cao Pi, Cao Cao and Jia Xu are the standouts out of the Wei officers for me. I respect Zhang Liao, Xiahou Dun and Xiahou Yuan for the movesets and story involvement. Xun Yu was so fun in 8E but he got boring, especially when they just add all those Wei strategists in 9.
Respectable 😎😎
Cai Wenji a tier for me and S tier for Zhen Ji alll day every
Haha nice! 😁😁
if this list was based solely on looks, that is.
Zhang Liao, Zhang He, Xu Huang, Xiahou Dun, Cao Ren, Cai Wenji, Jia Xu, and Dian Wei & Xu Zhu because they are best together.
Posting like crazy because I haven't seen a post show up in a long time so feeding the algorithm so I see more.
Haha Wei's got some great characters, and appreciate all the comments!!
Unlike most people who love Zhang Liao for his feats in Wei. I absolutely love him for his friendship and loyalty to Lu Bu. If Lu Bu never was executed, I think Zhang Liao would have never left his side. The hypothetical route in DW8 for Lu Bu we got to see a lot of that and especially in just any DW game, their relationship may be one of my favs. Lu Bu would never betray Zhang Liao and I think Zhang Liao really took that to heart seeing as how Lu Bu betrays everyone and so Zhang Liao could never betray Lu Bu.
Yeah his relationship with Lu Bu is really good, love it
Man some of the reasons for making people B or C tier was mindboggling. One guy said he didn't know a character and their move set was ok or they didn't know it. Then proceed to say for two different characters one was a C or D tier and the other on was a B tier. With the same criteria.
Haha yep thats what makes it so interesting!
@@TheNightowlGaming Everybody is different but at least be consistent. This video was probably a one take video. So I can't be that hard on them.
Have you ever thought about doing a tier list like this for the samurai warriors characters also at some point?
Potentially! I dont know them as well
@@TheNightowlGaming the games are not as cool as dynasty warriors in my opinion but a lot of the characters are basically reflections of dynasty warrior characters for the most part
37:20-37:30. That might be one of my biggest issues with Wei's story. People like Yu Jin did a WHOLE LOT more in history then what the games show, and it would really be easy to show at least some of this. It is especially annoying for Yu Jin and Cao Xiu, with them being known almost all for their defect at the end of their time in the army, when for just two cases of what else they did, Yu Jin held off a attack by forces of Yuan Shao's army who attacked him while Cao Cao's main force was putting down Liu Bei's revolt in Xu, while Yu Jin was fairly outnumbered, while Cao Xiu led a preemptive attack and utterly demolished a Wu force in 226 when Sun Quan was building a force to attack them on hearing of Cao Pi's death.
oh definitely but the way the games show them is like nothing really happens for them until their downfall battles, I guess cao xiu they explored a little more in dw9 but yu jin just shows up for fan castle, it is bad
@@TheNightowlGamingit is very annoying sometimes.
I like the Shu story line but Wu characters was where it’s at for me. Character design,family motives, over all bad ass red team. Can’t wait for that video
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Zhang He is the best Wei character
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I wish I was part of these rankings because my opinion is very unusual on most characters 😂
Maybe I'll get ya on the next one 😏😏
@@TheNightowlGaming I’d love that!!! Although I might get attacked in the comments for how I pronounce the characters names 😂
Ive been a dw fan since dw4 when i played first. These lists were great, im buying a ps4 for the sole reason of playing all the dw games again
Only 9 and 9 empires on xbox, kinda sad
Glad you enjoyed it! Enjoy your time with the old games! theyre so good
I mean it’s an “Eh” kinda thing for the overall Wei Tier opinions. I can’t believe the newcomers for 9 aren’t looked at properly. For me, I always give them a chance, they’re criminally underrated. Cao Xiu for sure deserved a lot better under my wing. I do like his weapon tbh, I’m aware that some may not like his splay blade, but I’ve mastered it in 9 Empires. (At least it’s 100x better than Zhong Hui’s splay blade - I’m biased pfft)
Zhang Liao definitely is S Tier for sure, I’ve always liked him. However, it’s his weapon that I’m trying to get used to, but I’m finding difficulty in mastering him.
Cao Cao I’d also put at S Tier cuz after all, he is the man of ambition. I like his moveset too.
There’s a lot to cover, but I feel like I should end mine here. I usually don’t do tier lists, but this is alright I suppose.
And there's nothing wrong with that! That's what makes the game so great, everyone has got their ranging opinions and at the end of it, we still love the same game :)
@@TheNightowlGaming heheh, you know what they say. If they're not ranked well, I might as well prove their might and potential myself and outrank 'em all lol
Zhang Liao is the Wei. Definitely my favorite. He kinda looks like a pirate, love the Blue Wyvern, epic backstory with Lu Bu, and great personality.
My fave too, great character
You even got Serious trivia on this? Dude knows every single inch about Three Kingdoms characters lmao.
Sure did! Him & everyone were amazing to work with! Hope you enjoyed!
My personal Wei tier list, because why not, I'd forget about it otherwise, and I'll do it for the other kingdoms too.
(in order of how I feel about them, also excluding DW9, never have, nor will I play it)
S: Cao Cao, Xiahou Dun, Zhang Liao, Yu Jin, Wang Yi
A: Jia Xu, Guo Jia, Pang De, Xu Huang, Dian Wei
B: Cao Pi, Xiahou Yuan, Zhang He, Xu Zhu, Cao Ren
C: Zhen Ji, Yue Jin, Li Dian
D: Cai Wenji
in the novel Zhu & Chao fought for 230 bouts & only retreated due to Cao Cao's order, dude is monstrous, solid list
If Cao Pi didn’t make S I would have unsubscribed. He was literally my favorite DW5 Wei character. His double bladed sword was so hard hitting!
Haha cant decide what others think about him 😎
Pang DE is B for me too love him
The hero of chaos had way more S tier to be put in A.
He is an S tire
He got close! Max points a character can get is 80, 10 per S, 8 per A, 7 per B
71 is needed for S -
Cao Cao had 70! (5 S = 50 + 2 A = 16 + 2 B = 14 ---> 50 +16 +14 = 70)
Just missed it! Definitely a good character though 😁
@TheNightowlGaming ok thanks for clearing it up with me.
Zhenji is the best girl! Hahahahahahha
But I'm super biased, for me Wei has the best characters overall, but Zhen deserves to be in the S tier and Cai Wenji in A, or S, too. Great video!
haha nothing wrong w liking your faves! glad u liked it!
yooo you got KCZ included!!
Yezzirrrr!!
amazing video for the wei heroes in the dynasty warriors and my fav wei are zhang he zhang lino yue jin xun you xiahou dun guo jia wang yi zheji cao pi cao cao and last yu jin🥰
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For me S tier: (ofc) Xiahou Dun, Cao Cao, Cao Pi and Li Dian (idk why but i liked him)
Nice!
Nice project.
Thank you! Cheers!
My man Dian Wei got done dirty
haha for sure
Dian Wei was by far my favorite character. The way they did him dirty with the ball and chain in 6 really put a bad taste in my mouth. I just can't see a reason for doing it. He already had a relatively unique move set with his hand axe. The axe throw was by far my favorite way to dispatch hoards of peons. The way that he dies so early defending Cao Cao was disappointing, but it was a valiant effort without his trusty axe.
Thats awesome, Love to hear about the unusual favorites
Imagine putting xiahou dun in B tier lmao
haha makes it interesting!
An again just because.
S. Li Dian, Xu Huang, Guo Jia, Pang De, Yue Jin, Jia Xu
A. Yu Jin, Zhang Liao, Xun You, Dian Wei, Xiahou Dun
B. Man Chong, Cao Ren, Zhang He, Cao Pi, Zhen Ji, Cao Cao
C. Wang Yi, Xiahou Yuan, Xun Yu
D. Cai Wenji, Cao Xiu, Xu Zhu
Did yu Jin kill one of his friends?
Ya he did 😬😬
Taking away the scepter from Xun Yu was definitely a downgrade; I get magic wasn't the most realistic thing to give him but it was just so good for him and unique
It was unique for sureee
Yue Jin in 8 is S tier, in 9 is B tier, A overall
Niceee
I will not stand for the Pang De slander I love Pang De
he dope for sure
I hate zhang he. He is the worst for me. And in the games of 2-5 his move set was bad and he had the worst musou attack in the game
Ain't nothing wrong with that! The opinions is what makes the game so interesting!
Zhejiang average noo she's top tier
My Wei Character Tiers…
Zhang He: A
Zhang Liao: C
Yue Jin: D
Pang De: C
Xu Huang: F
Xun Yu: A
Xun You: S
Xiahou Yuan: C
Xiahou Dun: C
Jia Xu: A
Guo Jia: B
Xu Zhu: D
Man Chong: B
Wang Yi: B
Li Dian: D
Cai Wenji: C
Zhen Ji: B
Cao Pi: B
Cao Ren: C
Cao Xui: C
Cao Cao: B
Dian Wei: D
Yu Jin: A
WOOWW what an interesting list, I love it!
@@TheNightowlGaming I noticed while doing this that there’s only 1 I especially love and 1 I especially hate. The rest are all in between so Wei for me is the one I’m least drawn to just bc they have the least I love.
I don't usually judge other people's preference but holy shit, Serious Trivia has really really bad taste. Xiahou yuan at B? Guo jia at C? Meanwhile Xu zhu at S? That annoying dumb fat ass that has zero relevancy in this series? S tier? Really?
Haha yeah but he had his reasons, the character stood out, aint nothing wrong w dat