Crash Truck Dash Cam #2: AA 383 Engine Fire at O’Hare
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Note the tilt alarm shrieking on every gentle turn, and welcome to a reality of these real-life monster trucks: they roll. Physics is very unfriendly to high center-of-gravity vehicles full of sloshing water, particularly when combined with an adrenaline-fueled driver experiencing the tunnel vision that can set in when a call comes through. (A common theme in NTSB interviews: firefighters don't remember hearing the tilt alarm.) Did I mention that crash trucks often have a curb weight in excess of 100,000 pounds? Something to consider on those occasions where it seems as though fire rescue crews are taking forever to respond: They are useless if they don’t arrive.
Continuing....
On October 28, 2016, at 2:32 p.m. CDT, a Boeing 767-300 (registration N345AN), scheduled as American Airlines flight 383 bound for Miami, Florida experienced an uncontained right engine failure and subsequent fire during its takeoff ground roll on runway 28R at Chicago O'Hare International Airport. The flight crew aborted the takeoff and stopped the aircraft on the runway and an emergency evacuation was conducted. Of the 161 passengers and 9 crew members onboard, one passenger received serious injuries during the evacuation and another 19 experienced minor injuries. The airplane was substantially damaged by the fire.
Here is some more information you likely have not heard elsewhere:
-It took firefighters ten hours to completely stop the fuel leak. To capture leaking fuel, firefighters first used eight containment pools, and eventually placed a fuel bowser beneath the wing.
-Airport firefighters saw this fire from the station and started responding immediately, prior to notification from the tower
-One of the first units on scene included a firefighter who had been with Chicago Fire Department for 36 years. He had never before responded to an aircraft fire and was scheduled to retire the following day. At 11:00 in this video you can hear him saying "I finally got my fire! Luckily no one was hurt."
-Not all equipment was functional during the incident. Cameras which had recently been tested malfunctioned, and one of the high-reach extendible turrets on a crash truck was out of service.
-One of the ejected turbine disc fragments pierced through the plane's wing and continued thousands of feet through the air, eventually falling through the roof of a UPS shipping facility, bouncing off the floor, breaking it (the floor, that is), and finally landing on a loading rack - over 3,000 feet away. Check out the photo album at tiny.cc/AA383Pics (case sensitive).
-Firefighters used over 24,000 gallons of finished foam (720 gallons of 3% AFFF concentrate) on this fire.
-The estimated cost to repair runway damage due to heat and gouges from flying turbine shrapnel was close to $1,000,000. It was necessary to cut a section of runway out of the ground.
(Noise reduction was liberally applied to the audio track, including frequency-specific notch filters for the ear-piercing high-pitch tones. The way it sounded prior... could be used for riot control.)
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Many additional documents from the NTSB investigation have been added to Google Drive - flight crew checklists, training manual excerpts, interview transcripts, metallurgy reports on the failed disc, and more. To join the 15,000+ people who have taken advantage of that (free) information resource, visit tiny.cc/AA383.
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wow thats nice
UA-cam sucks
UA-cam is run by over sensitive snowflakes….
Brilliant video and excellent description. For all of those who thought it took a long time to get to the plane, from leaving the station it was 2 minutes 38 seconds to start pumping foam. There is no way a truck that heavy could consider driving across grass plus there are lighting stanchions and other obstacles.
And this was from a standing start. This is not like an aircraft landing with a problem. They had no lead time to get the trucks out there.
I’ve watched fire trucks depressing asphalt as they rolled over it. Water is heavy.
Pops 272 As well, airports are MASSIVE. A runway is usually a mile and a half to two miles long.
That and all their movements had to be coordinated with Air Traffic Control. ATC had to make sure all the airplanes on the field either stopped where they were or stayed in the air.
Why, what would happen if they drove over grass?
Dude.... You have cited literally every single last one of your sources and then made them publically available. You're really an investigative journalist at this point.
this is the guy who started real world police
That’s pretty cool 😎 thanks for letting us know. I’m a huge fan of real world police.
The tilt alarm and water spilling all over the runway where exactly what I first noticed watching the video, from the perspective of someone sitting in the comfort of their own home and not responding to a situation where people could actually be losing their life. It seems like quite a delicate balancing act between arriving to the scene quickly, intact, and with as much water onboard as possible. It looks like they handled it incredible well.
They don't use water they use foam in the trucks. It could roll and the foam would stay in them the tanks are sealed
@@Tylerstace-smith That's not true at all - the foam is made up of a mixture of 3% foam concentrate and 97% water which are both stored on the truck. Water tanks are not usually completely sealed - which is why you see water splashing out from inside of the truck and leaking everywhere while it's driving in this video. As mentioned in the description, in this case specifically they ended up using 24,000 gallons of 3% finished AFFF foam, so only 720 gallons of the AFFF concentrate.
These guys knew the exactly how far they could push their apparatus. Bravo.
@@sweens06 i have driven these fire trucks. you actually learn to use the weight of the water to control it. you feel the water move to one side and then you steer to keep it there and finish the turn. the only thing they did wrong here was doing LOTS of turns zig zagging towards the plane instead of going full speed over 1 taxiway and making just 1 turn. that would cut down their response time considerbaly.
they are taking their sweet time. Not citizen-like.
Wish more people took the time to write such a detailed description. Good video.
Vise Key Police Activity copies and pastes their video description word for word from whichever news site they reupload the video from. A bit different.
Blimey this was so lucky!
First Last true
and read them!
Amazing footage. Thank you airport firefighters around the world for being there and being ready to help us.
-a grateful passenger who flies a lot.
I have been on truck 655 with my uncle George M. I got to stay the night at the fire house one time. The cook was fantastic. 3 super meals a day. Got to go up in the 90 ft. Bucket too. Good memories 😀. Uncle was a lieutenant at O'Hare. He has since passed away. R.i.p. Uncle George
Rip for your loss
Sorry for your loss man
Womp womp
One of the first units on scene included a firefighter who had been with Chicago Fire Department for 36 years. He had never before responded to an aircraft fire and was scheduled to retire the following day. At 11:00 in this video you can hear him saying "I finally got my fire! Luckily no one was hurt." That's pretty cool.
Most people would understand this, you train your whole career, like in the military, you just want that one chance to put it to good use, and hope no one gets hurt, but still you get a bit giddy.
10:57 “finally got my fire”. Congrats on retirement!
He deserved it after that, for sure...
@@hectorandres2921 that’s my dad! Walter Glaubitz
Honestly giving the video a like purely for the description.
Ive been looking for a fire truck airport video for ever
Probably because they're cool?
Exoticloverscanada
Oshkosh fire truck...
Meant: I've been looking for an airport firetruck video for forever. 🤷🏻♂️👍
Top gear airport vehicle racing also has airport fire truck.
I have done volunteer fire fighting in the past and have been to a few dwelling fires and structure fires. But this right here is the real deal. This gives me chills. To the professionals that handle this stuff, my hat goes off to you. Seeing that smoke gives me chills. God bless.
Wow. Absolutely incredible, how CFD maneuvered their behemoths with such precision!
I'm glad there were no fatalities and that vet got his fire.
And, What You Haven't Seen, thanks for doing our collective ears a favour with the squelcing on some of the audio.
Excellent video and even better video description!
Classical Rips - Thank you!
very impressed with the rigidity of the evacuation slides in front of water power
Theyre meant to be used as rafts in the case of a water landing so I was hoping they'd hold up 😂
I wondered if someone in the truck would jump out and deflate it to clear it from the water jet. Maybe with a special tool
Thank you for taking the time to post this very interesting and informative video. You showed a view, the general public would very rarely see. It also shows how constant training pays off it an intense situation. Thank you for your service.
My service is in bringing you the information and these videos, but I'm certain that men and women of Chicago FD are hanging around these comments and appreciate that.
My dad was crash crew in 69-70... he said their moto was "You crash...We dash... You burn... We learn...."
I worked on crash fire trucks in the Air Force but these don’t seem to modulate around the aircraft. What a satisfying job.
Yeah their #1 priority is to shield the cabin.
Great footage!
Great username
Oh snap lol. Wrong account.
(Anyway, check out Real World Police 😛)
@@RealWorldPolice Yooooooo I watch you all the time
Indeed
@@RealWorldPolice 9
This is probably the most thorough post with information I have ever seen ..ever
I haven't been in a crash truck in over 10 years but I still got a little thrill responding to your Alert 3 with you. Thanks!
My dad was the engineer driving crash rig 653. First one on the scene! Great job by everyone absolute heroes.
The response time is remarkable. Very, very well done job by the vigilant O’Hare fire crew.
Quick! Call the fire brigade!!
TBH i dont think it was.....I mean as regard the response time. yes. however in relation to what they were dealing with its not good enough......And thats purely down to the location of were the trucks were. needs to be more centralised.....That goes for any airport.......Imagine that being a jumbo ready to take off fully laden with fuel.....Could go up at any moment
ken rudge
Yea I see what you mean. But there is something to be said about the fact they dispatched themselves before even being told to do so by tower. Vigilance.
ken rudge they were well within the time frame put in place by the FAA and NTSB (3 minutes till the fire rig gets on scene and 7 till the last).
ken rudge Those trucks are upwards of 100,000lbs, taking off from a standstill, with no advanced warning. I'd say they did pretty decent. Even empty, they're setting off the tip alarm on every turn. These trucks aren't sportscars.
The drivers of those fire engines do a great job "apexing" the turns. I can only imagine keeping those rigs under control at those speeds with all the turns they had to take. Great positioning of the vehicles on the roadway (taxiways and runway) on entry into the turns and through the turns. This allows the turns to be taken safely at higher speeds. Excellent driving skills. Also, glad to hear the firefighters visually and verbally confirming the runways they are about to cross are clear. Looked like a very professional response by a well-trained team.
I have to say without a doubt on of the best youtube reports video ever! Thank you for taking the time to do all this work including the links to all the pictures and reports.
Thanks, Craig's Car Care! I appreciate that!
Just info for non ARFF (Airport Rescue Firefighter) trucks typically have over 3,000 gallons of water 100 gallons for Class B fires and dry chem for fires that get worse with water, typically 3 to 6 individual seats, can Pump while rolling, have side water curtains under trunk to ensure foam blanket is not broken very long while moving truck, typically fight most big fires from inside truck to minimize injuries and they can pump out 3,000 gallons per minute or more depending on foam concentration. Most are 12 feet wide and 45 feet long with a 6 wheeled system. Speeds drove in this video is rather pretty quickly but looks slower than you think by a vision allusion! Think of what it looks like in a semi or on a runway taking off! Typically runways are 75 feet wide within the lines and can be miles long depending upon aircraft the airport supports. When there is wreckage everywhere its almost impossible to know what is under the foam. Typically an officer or crew member are outside directing if no flame impingement trying to escape from underneath foam like hot fuel. Fuel and aircraft fires are typically a 1/3rd of all heat on structural on top of normal heat. That's why some ARFF firefighters wear like big bulky baked potatoes fire gear! The silver is to redistribute the heat away from the individual firefighters! Aircraft if not structural unsound are designed to be completed evacuation 90 seconds or less of passengers and crews! Always have your ID's, Passports and money on you or in your seat pocket in front of you, or belt area so you don't unintentionally be an idiot that slowed a Emergency evacuation for your bag. I traveled a lot and have learned how to properly travel over a 25 year time frame. Internationally and domestically! Have a great and wonderful day!
I know this is serious stuff, often life-and-death. But man, it must fun letting those huge rigs max out on the runway . . .
It is the rush of adrenaline is amazing. But that can cause you to do things that are dangerous, like cornering too fast etc. I was 18 in Namibia doing this for 2 years. We had 6x6 OshKosh and 6x6 Chubb Pathfinder. Both had roof monitors (water canons). At that time the Pathfinder was in the Guiness World Records for many years as having the most powerful pumping capabilities.
Until it flips over because you’re driving it like a Mazda Miata.
O'Hare is my home airport and this really gives me perspective of how HUGE it is. It seemed to take forever to get to the plane, but really was quicker than the time it takes my local first responders to get to my house - I and think they get her quick.
Doesnt get much more real than that. Educational and inspirational. Keep up the awesome work.
Incredible video. These firefighters sure did their job to the letter. Great work O'Hare Fire Department.
767 worth $200million THRASHED!
170 Passengers including Crews SAVED! ☝️😇
No you Can’t get 10000 Subs WITHOUT ANY VIDEO
much of the plane can be salvaged, like the other engine and the interior.
@@Halfabajablast2 it's okay 😊
@@Stealthmuizwell, yeah, but starboard engine and wing... Complete write offs.
I wanted to be a firefighter for the RAF, training in cardiff, when i was a kid... dreams dont come true.... good footage, and glad that guy got his fire before he retired.
Finally, someone uploading good crash truck videos. I've been looking for this kind of perspective for a long, long time!
Years later, I can still taste that AFFF, that I accidentally ingested, when you’re not on the rig it happen Sometimes!!Thanks again for the video.
Was stationed at O'hare at beginning of my career..this brings back memories
For some reason I keep hearing, "Bank angle! Bank angle!" when you took the corners. 🤣
Unbelievable information to read about disaster. Especially to learn that an ejected turbine traveled 3,000ft into the roof of the UPS bldg. And 10 hrs to stop the leak. DANG!! THAT'S SCARY STUFF! We don't think or hear about those things. Thank you for explaining all that happened. WOW!!
Amanda Bolton You’re welcome! It is pretty wild. Fortunately, what makes these events so newsworthy is their rarity.
A minor correction (which, however, makes a big difference). The piece that was ejected and landed at the UPS facility was a piece of a turbine *disk*, which is substantially more massive than a blade (usually at least by an order of magnitude). A blade would probably not travel that far. Ejected turbine disk fragments can travel several kilometres, they may have weights and speeds comparable to artillery shells.
If you want to know what happened to the engine as precisely as anyone knows, here's the Factual report of the Powerplant Group Chairman of the NTSB: dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/document.cfm?docID=454015&docketID=60058&mkey=94308
@pinkdispatcher - Spot on. Thank you - correction has been made. Additionally, I uploaded some photos I think you'll find interesting. They are at tiny.cc/AA383Pics (case sensitive, link redirects to a Google Drive album).
Great photos, thanks.
Thank you for the link. A lot of the information was over my head but just seeing what they go through to find the cause was very interesting.
Very, very cool. You don't get to see this everyday!
I was on the tarmac sitting on a UA flight as this unfolded right in front of me. Amazing job by all involved - especially the pilot who aborted take off.
I was driving Northbound along Las Vegas Boulevard by Nellis Air Force Base to the right of me probably a mile away was a large T tail transport plane on fire the fire trucks were there several of them shooting foam at it if firewood die down and then start the blaze up again the trucks again would be pouring phone at it
That would be putting foam on it again this happened several times I called my employer to tell him about it it turns out they were just practicing and they do this every now and again what unbelievable sight to watch from the highway
This must be the best day in the life of an airport firefighter. Finally a great fire to distinguish. What they trained for hundred of times.
Those runways are huge when you have to drive them in big rescue vehicles even...all the many taxiways to go through. They did a great job helping saving that plane.
Thank you for this good video. It is refreshing to watch the fire crews operating at an airport with a real life situation with a aircraft on fire.
I was very glad to see that the main structure of the aircraft was intact enough for the passengers and crew to safely exit. Well done guys.
This is one of the most interesting and informative UA-cam videos I have ever seen. Excellent work. New subscriber here.
silvio2372 informative how exactly?
Anas saleh Read the description. It’s full of information not available anywhere else.
Metropolitan firefighters: "How many calls did we get today?"
Volunteer firefighters: "How many calls did we get this month?"
Airport Fire Rescue: *"You guys are getting calls!?"*
Wow! I don’t know how I missed these. It’s been over a year since WYHS posted this and others from different perspectives of the various firefighting trucks. Agreed; very detailed info and many thanks for that!
I can vouch for the tilting dangers. As a volunteer firefighter/First Responder for 9 years, I recall one of my fellow firefighters got tunnel vision and high excitability on the way to a fire while driving our mini-pumper; the tank wasn’t full, thus sloshing dangerously and he soon found himself in a ditch. (It didn’t help that it had rained recently and wind had brought down a lot of dead leaves on the roads.) Shame on the last prior operator, who should have filled it up (per policy) before parking it. The fireman who ditched it, as he admitted, would have known the tank wasn’t full by the way it handled; his operation of the vehicle should have reflected that accordingly. Yes, we all got an extra Inservice and checkoff on that, and to my knowledge it never happened again.
Sorry there were injuries in this situation, but it could have been so much worse. This video (and others of this call from other pumpers’ perspectives) remind us all of the necessary and often dangerous jobs firefighters do to protect us! Thank you for bringing it to our attention, WYHS. Well done, especially the detailed explanation!
Thank you for including links to the photo album. It’s now 3 am so I will have to continue reading the reports tomorrow. I am one who always has to dig deeper into stuff so I really appreciate it. I now have to also check out your channel and other videos and subscribe.
Wow! I felt the frustration at having to negotiate the taxiways and runways to get to the fire. I know you can't drive over the medians, I guess, to keep from running over taxiway and runway edge lights, but man it seemed to take forever. What a great job by very talented firefighters. After all that water and extinguishing fluid, to see the fire reignite was incredible. Thanks for the video.
Not to mention that ARFF crews have to coordinate with towers and get clearance to pass hold bars.
@@illgetbacktothat2291 in this case they were cleared on all runways and taxiways. ATC ordered "everyone stop" for the whole airport and then gave clearance to Emergency services
Makes an old ARFF guy’s heart race!!! Great job CFD!
Often when there is an airport incident posted on UA-cam people bag on the firefighters for taking so long to get there. This is a great example of why it takes time. You can’t just drive straight to the accident. They have to weave through the taxiways and runways and it takes time. Also, these are HEAVY trucks.
8.4 lbs per gallon of water. And somewhere up to 1000 gallons on the truck, 500-800 typically...
Yeah those trucks are heavy
@@xEvilRaptorxThis is foam not water
@@xEvilRaptorxThese carry around 1200 gallons of foam. These are monsters
You guys fire fighters are the best! Excellent work !!
NICE!!!!!Cooooool!
О, привет я твой Подписчик
Аахах, так вот почему мне этот видос в рекомендованные упал. Потому что тут его прокомментировал человек, на которого я подписан)
got to operate one of these robot hoses as a kid. These trucks are loud and bumpy. You operate the hose like a video game with a joystick.
I don't remember hearing about this fire, but that sure looked hot. The right wing looks like it melted.
Did that for R.I. National Guard for 6 years Crash/and Structural! Hats off to you Gals and Guys!
A1 top notch video and description! Excellent. And WOW,.amazing driving and attack of that fire. This video is top notch all the way!
What a great video! Glad everyone got off the plane safely. Thought they would never get that fire knocked down.
Dang that engine fire was immortal.
Racing through the airfield like a pro in ideal lines nearly hitting the apex with this hevy fire trucks. Respect to all these people!
7:41 The new gull winged 767
I never knew it would be so hard to put out! Great work.
In industry, commonly called a "running spill fire", and this one has obstacles that prevent the extinguishing foam from getting to every last bit of fire.
Luckily those disc fragments didn't travel through the fuselage. They could've cut people in half.
Joseph Holmberg they can and they have! While the fuselage is a big deal, the fuel tanks are a bigger deal!
it did go through a UPS building. 3,000ft away. That alone is scary enough..
@@brandoncaldwell95 I bet the UPS worker that this flew by from that probably needed to change his undies.
The description is beautiful, it answered questions I had!
"I finally got my fire! Luckily no one was hurt." - destiny
Don't realize how immensely huge that airport is until you're driving on it
Really awesome video. Also appreciate the background information, very well explained and very informative. Thanks!
So many moving parts to the operation with the Firefighters (obviously), but also ATC and there difficult job! Great job everyone involved! 👏 👍 I hope everyone was ok!!
The epitome of "surround and drown".
I was lucky enough to go out in these trucks with my family to go to a practice plane and it was awesome and we also got to go into the firehouse and go all the way up on a ladder truck. These guys are the best!
Auquious film forming foam AFFF... we used it to fight fires in the Navy aboard ship.
It's 'AQUEOUS,' meaning water-based?
@@heli-crewhgs5285 Yes
Outstanding description!! They had to make sure all arrivals, and departures came to a halt as well.
This video was awesome, as a fellow aviator this is pretty cool to see seeing that it's pretty rare to see this....... Awesome vids dude Keep up the good work! Defently subscribing!
Nice to know these Guy's are there, I didn't realise how much water / Foam they carry Good Luck to these unsung Hero's.
It is amazing how the turbine disc parts split to go both above and below the fuselage. Most of the people worried about fire would likely have been 100% panic mode if they also were dealing with casualties at the same time.
Also, for a humorous end to what could have been a very bad causality count, are not winglets supposed to point up?
Jason Woods that was a limited edition 737 ;)
Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams!
The best description ever!
That has to be the worst kind failure on an engine.
Imagine if that disk fragment had entered the cabin inline with a row of seats....
curb weight in excess of 100,000 pounds...I'm guessing water capacity alone is another 35,000 pounds on top of it.
What kind of engines do airport crash tenders operate with?
What kind of engines
large diesel engines Id wager.
Caterpillar turbo diesel with Allison transmissions. The torque is awesome. They’ll go 70mph straight up big hills. They’re awesome!
Various high-output big-bore turbodiesels. Newer ones are usually Deutz TCD 16.0L, or two (yes, dual engine) Scania DC16. Older ones often used the Detroit 8V92TA; some have Cummins NTC400, ISM, or QSX15; or Caterpillar C-15, C-16, or C-18. Since the EPA does not classify these vehicles as on-highway trucks, there are "looser" emissions standards so it is easier to push that high horsepower.
djo9C1 Solid answer. How do you know so much about these trucks?
Impressive how apparatus has changed from when I was a C.F.R. Firefighter in the 70/80's, beautiful rigs.
Man, I know those trucks hold alot of water but dam, that lasted quite awhile. I was wondering if they were going to have to go back and refill up and go back.
Its foam not water
@@seyitalihamzaquadri5470 Uhhh, yeah, it's water... There's a separate agent mixed into the water that magically makes the foam.......
I’m so glad this happened before V1. If this plane went airborne and that fire kept going at the wing it could’ve been another AAL 191. I flew to Dallas three days later and they still had 28R closed so I remember we departed 28C which is rare. Then on the way home we flew an American 767 and I was thinking to myself “oh great”.
Idk about you but that is pretty lit
Pun intended
Yep, the crews were really stoked.
This video actually did a good job showing another reason why NOT to deploy the slide on the side with the fire. It blocks the master nozzle stream.
Parabéns pelo trabalho 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Firefighters life...someone who serves the humanity without any bias even in today's time!
So basically the firefighters at the airport relax till a plane crashes
OK THEN I WILL WORK THERE
no, not really, they still have to answer calls for medical issues. And they also have to be ready to tackle fires that require large amounts of foam. I think once in Phoenix, AZ there was a tanker that caught fire somewhere on one of the highways here and they sent a few crash trucks out to extinguish it. I also read other comments that mentioned that Chicago FD crash trucks helped put out other fires off airport property that weren't involved with aircraft.
Peter F. Oh
Yes and no. As Peter said, and you train quit a bit for cases as such. That is ontop of maintaining equipment. A lot more work than you think.
As an example we in Stuttgart still have around 5000-6000 emergency calls per year.
Alexander.. so 16-17 emergency calls a day, every day, all year round?
Excellent footage of a very stubborn engine fire... All that Foam, and Purple K Dry Chem and it still refused to go out...
Anyone notice the trail of water the truck in front was leaving at every turn? I was laughing to myself thinking they would be empty before getting on scene.
All fire apparatus have a "fill tower" with a lid that allows water to escape. If the tanks were sealed, they'd easily blow when filling the tank as fast as they do, because the tanks aren't meant to be pressurized at all. It's just a little water sloshing out the top because they were probably topped off all the way.
All fire equipment have the same.. its an overflow for the tank... lol
Nah nah. They design them to run out of water for hilarity.
all fire engine water tankers has overflows.
in case a firefighter forgets how many cups of water they put in it
This is how I imagined firefighting as a kid just drive the truck up and spray water lol
Who's the genius that deployed a slide on the side of the airplane WHERE THERE'S A FIRE?!?! Haha, I guess we can laugh about it now since no one was seriously injured or killed...I'm sure it was a a "heat of the moment" thing (no pun intended). I wonder if anyone made it out on that side.
joseg2143, We were trained to exit IF you could angle away from the danger area. For door 1R that would be directing people to immediately turn 45 degrees to the left after they got to ground and to head for the edge of the paved surface. Of course sometimes after you open the exit you change your decision and send everyone out the other side of the aircraft. It could have gone either way.
I support David’s position 100%. I’d like to also add, being a flight attendant myself, we’re also trained to make sure that that exit is clear of fire, water, debris, etc. and as you may notice in the video, the wind has a very strong impact on where the smoke is blowing to. Not to mention also that this is Chicago a.k.a. the Windy City, having said that, it would not be unheard of for the wind to be blowing one direction, and 5 to 10 minutes later it be blowing in a different direction. So at the time the flight attendant looked out of the window to check to make sure the area outside the door was clear. The wind could have been blowing from the nose to the tail therefore telling whoever the flight attendant was that the area was clear. One additional thing is that the aircraft is still sitting on the runway and when an aircraft takes off it needs to take off into the wind which means just by looking at it, it can tell you that at the time of the incident the wind was blowing from nose to tail on the aircraft, therefore telling whomever the flight attendant was that the exit was clear.
"FA #5 was seated at the 1R jumpseat when she heard a loud bang. The airplane was shaking and she was waiting for the pilots to tell the flight attendants what had happened. Before she heard any announcement, the passengers started rushing toward her shouting “fire, open the door, open the door”. She did not see fire, but FA #1 had turned around and saw smoke in the cabin and had opened his door. She assessed out her door window, she saw no fire, and opened the 1R door. Once the door was opened, she saw fire outside and blocked the exit by holding up her hands to stop passengers from using that exit. She shouted at passengers to use the 1L door and continued blocking the 1R door. Once all passengers had evacuated, she exited out 1L door."
The 4L door was a bit crazier.
"FA #2 was seated at the 4L jumpseat when she heard a loud noise and felt the airplane fishtail. She saw flames coming from the right wing and picked up the interphone to call the captain but could not recall how to dial it. Immediately passengers were at her door pleading to get off the airplane. She attempted to contact the cockpit to have them shut down the engines but was unsuccessful. Passengers were continuing to plead with her to let them off the airplane. She continued to hold back passengers to allow more time for the pilots to shut down the engines before evacuating. The cabin began filling with smoke and she was concerned the airplane was heavy with fuel so she decided to evacuate. The 4L slide deployed but was blowing towards the rear of the airplane because the engine was still running. She and #3 held passengers back until the slide stabilized and then began the evacuation. Once her area was clear, she exited the airplane out the 4L door."
"FA #3 was seated at the 4R jumpseat when he heard a loud grinding noise and felt the airplane begin to fishtail. The cabin was lit up with fire on the right side of the airplane back to his door at 4R. Before they came to a stop passengers were screaming and climbing over middle seats and moving over to the left side. He attempted to use the interphone to make a PA to instruct everyone to remain calm. He moved to the 4L door area to assist FA #2 as passengers continued to ask them to open the door and let them out. He and FA #2 were waiting to hear from the captain and for engines to shut down before they began evacuating. As they were waiting the cabin began to fill with smoke, so they decided to open the door and evacuate. *Once the door was open he could see passengers rolling across the runway behind the engine and the slide blowing to the rear. Once the engine shut down, the slide aligned itself and he continued evacuating passengers until the area was clear and exited out the 4L door."*
Those folks had probably never seen a video of jet blast...
joseg2143 did you notice there were no passengers?
chad Rogers Well, obviously not anymore with the fire raging at this point and ARFF equipment practically on top of the slide...
Great information about the incident all of the extra stuff that they never really covered. The fan blade especially was cool info
Всем спасателям, всего мира, низкий поклон. Они, спасабт мамое ценное, что может быть, жизни!
The description deserves an award. Great vid
WYHS;
Do the new composite metallic materials used on the 787 present any more of a fire danger for you guys? They certainly do at the manufacturing plants!
Are you referring to carbon fiber and inhalation hazards associated with fire? If so, hell yes. That stuff is evil. (It's great for building planes, though!)
This video proves that hero's do not come from the skies but instead vehicles with flashing lights.
What’s the beeping in turns? A high G warning?
No Comment tilt warning. High center of gravity warning the driver to ease off or itll roll over.
EVERYONE, READ THE DESCRIPTION! They have really cool info and a link to some pictures of the plane!
все ждут пока приземлиться самолёт а потом едут должны там уже ждать
Ты выясни сначала, что должны и какие у пожарников инструкции, и почему именно такие, может меньше глупостей скажешь.
самолет не приземлялся а просто не взлетел, пожар случился пре взлете дв.#2.
Former USAF Firefighter. Thanks for the memories.
When there's an incident such as this at a large and busy airport, is there a ground stop on the whole airfield with incoming aircraft diverted or is just the immediate area of the incident closed off?
Typically - if there can be said to exist such a thing - there is an immediate ground stop and aircraft on final approach are instructed to go around. Because emergency vehicles can be coming from anywhere on airport property there isn't always an "immediate area of the incident." Safe resumption of airport operations is a priority and that'll happen as soon as is reasonably possible, sometimes with temporary reductions in capacity depending on the nature of the incident, investigation requirements, any necessary repairs, and the availability of rescue services.
navyguyhm3 the ARFFs have to get permission to cross active runways.
O hare instituted a full ground stop nothing moved period outside of CFD and Airport operations response.
At O'Hare in this case it was a total ground stop.
So if all air traffic is closed for this incident what happens if a plane needs to land here and can't divert due to bingo fuel
Thanks for the video, and the excellent additional detail provided with it.
Man in GTA we just go straight, why all the zigzagging
With 20 tons of water onboard, cutting through the grass, is asking to get stuck. Not hard to tip either, if one side sinks in, with a high load.
Heh; I was going to joke about ARFF having a pinball machine on-board; turns out it really is a tilt alarm.
Y'all lived up to your name on this one. I had no idea this truck was so vital to the actual fire fight.