Yamaha MT07 vs. Kawasaki ZX4RR! Best Big Beginner Motorcycles?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:58 Specifications
4:00 Ergonomics
6:41 Tech, Suspension & Features
10:50 Final Verdict - Комедії
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the giveaways can be also for people outside of the US? Or US only?
Canadian winners?
And I fuggin missed it, along with all the hype surrounding these bikes 😂😢
I have an 22' MT-07. I have been traveling the western US riding all over. I've put 18k miles on the bike in less than 1.5 years. This bike is bullet proof. I've road dirt, sand, mud and street. I'm just about to get my 3rd set of tires. Nothing but regular maintenance. So much fun and sounds amazing with an aftermarket pipe.
That is a LOT of miles. I do not envy your butt! 👍🏼
@@25aspooner lol. I ride every day!
Do you have a full exhaust setup or just a slip on?
@@PuineaGip full, a slip on is not available for the MT07.
@@stephenjstoddard oh :( well thank you for teaching me i didnt know. I was looking to buy an mt07 so its good that i now know
HOLY CRAP! I just commented this question on yesterday's video that I was torn between the 4R and the 07, and today Yammie drops a whole video as the answer.
Thanks Papa Yam!
hahahaha there is the answer
I honestly think that the starting on the zx4r is better. Way more predictable. I think you learn to be a better rider on the kawa than on the mt07
@@maxwesterdijkmw that is a really good point, I think the same too honestly
@@prometheus9038 nice seeing you here again man! Thankyou for your suggestions on that video too. After watching this, I think I'll still go with the ZX4, as he mentioned at the end, it's the perfect bike for someone who wants the supersport style and sound but doesn't want the drawbacks like the ergonomics and the way too fast engines for the street, and I am a Kawasaki fan since childhood, my first love was a Ninja when I saw one when I was around 10 or 11, now that I'm turning 18 next year, I think this is the perfect choice for me.
@@saigaikwad415 I personally also think that yammie completely misses the mark in this vid regarding the zx4. Its certainly not a beginner bike, at least not any less than most 600s from the 90s are. Its a full fletched supersport with less power so you can use more of the bike on the street
I just traded in my 2021 MT07 for a ZX4RR. Oh what a difference. I rode it on the same country twisty's that I rode my 2021 MT07 on and what a surprise. I have 2 cruisers, one being a 2022 Heritage and the other a 2018 1200 Iron Sportster. I wanted something for a little more excitement so I bought an MT07. It was a fine bike but I just didn't think the parallel twins were all that sporty. They didn't sound like a bike that I liked. The torque comes on like a hammer and I'm not into wheelies. I like carving in the country and I have several roads around me, close that I carve. The ZX4RR is perfect for that. The difference between the 2 was amazing. I'm a very young 69 year old with over 50 years of riding experience. I owned a Ninja 600 E in my 40's and 50's. Beautiful bike and I loved it. But then I got a touring bike for me and the wife so I had to sell it. I've also owned an 09 Triumph Street Triple. I still have a big picture of it on the wall in my garage. I loved it but it was starting to leak oil so I traded it in on an M8 Street Glide. I digress. I wasn't getting the excitement out of the MT07 that I wanted but this ZX4RR seems to have been made just for me. I've only had one good day of riding besides riding it back 40 miles from the dealer. So this is the next morning and I couldn't sleep very well last night thinking about which road I was going to ride on the following day. I'm still excited to play with my new toy. I'm learning more and more about the KQS and riding mods. The Sport is really good but the Road mod seems better suited for around town for stop and go traffic. It seems the influencers are working with the motorcycle industries to promote parallel twins so they can save some production costs and make more money. I enjoy bikes that stirs the soul like the sound of a Harley and 4 and 3 cylinders. I also owned 2012 Bonnie. I still think the 360 degree sounds better then the 270 cranks. Especially with Predator exhaust British Custom. Maybe I should write a book. I'm just a rambling old man with lots of experience. My videos shows what a very young man I really am. Follow me on UA-cam. Yammy if you are ever in Kentucky let me know an we can do some riding together.
I love how two complete opposites, as these two bikes are, can transmit you the same: a fun bike side to side for your weekend rides on some twisty road
I’d like to leave a big shout out to y’all in this channel, Ty’s for being around spreading so much information. I finally took courage to get me a wonderful 22/23 mt-07. And being a completely noob about I’ve never been so excited 🎉🎉🎉
do a drag race between the two ! i really need to know which is actually faster.
Please make a video on the new Honda CB500F, papa Yam!
I love the looks of zx4rr and will be going for that one whenever i get the bike
But don't forget that you can do small simple upgrades to the mt-07 to make it better for instance bit a little thicker fork oil in the forks that will take away sponginess in the front and then put a smaller rear sprocket and that will take some of the torque away and add a little speed 😁 that's what I did to my bike and it works 😁
Interesting. 31" is about the seat height on my San Quentin 2 with the dropper compressed. Also, I've always felt that the MT07 riding position would be the most comfortable for me coming from mountain biking.
Would take the 4RR if at the same price point due to the fact that I can do both track days and improve my skill even more as well as daily it without too much worries.
I'd want both of these, plus an R1!
I started on 08 R1😂 and don’t regret it I’m still alive 15 years later if you respect the machine a machine will respect you simple you fuk around and you will find out very quickly
Doing my UK motorcycle tests tomorrow and the day after. After training on the MT-07, I've found it very stable at low speed, a very smooth throttle and clutch, with oodles of torque. It will be my first big bike. It feels like a great beginner's bike, as long as you're sensible. The only quirks are the clunk getting into 1st and the tiny indicator switch.
So can you explain what you believe a sensible rider to be? Just curious because I’m still saving and looking for a bike possibly.
Same here fell in love with it on my test for A licence ... will be buying it in next month with akrapovic exaust of course ... 🤪
I definitely love the MT-07... can wait to see who are the winners! Hope to be lucky and get my dream motorcycle as a beginner! Thanks again for all the information Yammie I take all information i can to have a successful first experience as a beginner, can wait to take my msf course and get my license
I honestly want the 4rr. Love ninjas. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Damn, gotta stick to the longboard 🛹
Maybe next time, good luck to ya 🍀
Passed my msf course today and I’m thinking about getting an mt07 . I’m 5”11 so I feel it it’ll be a very beginner friendly bike for me.
Nooo how did I miss this giveaway 😭😭
Zx4rr é muito mais bonita e mais confortável e não levas com o vento, tem um som brutal, não tem nada a ver mt07 outro tipo de moto, parabéns pelo vídeo.
Bro does the Kawasaki 4rr and Aprilla rs660 have the same rear shock fitment? Coz I saw some aftermarket ohlins rear shock for Aprilla rs 660 and Im just wondering if it fits to my Kawasaki zx4rr, please help me on this bro coz I want an ohlins rear shock suspension on my zx4rr thanks bro
next I guess for the smaller beginner bike like MT-03 vs Z250?
Genuine question, why not buy the slightly more expensive MT-07, which has a TFT display and a sexy matte black color?
would the zx4rr be a good beginner bike too? whats everyones thought?
I love the classy music
Will you ever be giving away a bike in Europe? Would be nice 😢
Is it the Kawasaki er6 2006 good for beginner.
This depends upon are you a street rider and short track rider or a scream it to the moon and big track rider. To daily then mt07 every time. For outright speed and long track fun go zx4rr.
The ZX is super pretty, but man the MT 07 is what I would pick too the ZX is just too unnecessary complicated for me.
My local shop is selling a 2020 mt 07 with 6000km for 8000 cad$ is that a good deal that’s about 6000 usd
The answer is neither- you get a used bike that is light, under 40 hp and runs well , that fits your body. These bikes cost 3500 + dollars more than you need to spend.
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Can you give some examples? Also, what is an acceptable mileage? I'd hate to immediately have the valves checked and potentially pay for a valve job. Also, beginners don't really know how a bike should run or sound... you'd think it would be impossible to test ride a used bike with 15k miles and immediately tell if the oil has never been changed right?
Idk I’m just not a fan of sport bikes. Naked bikes are as far as I would ever go, but I much prefer comfortability. So: cruisers.
I’m the kinda guy that would buy a Rebel 500 and turn it into a touring bike with bags, a trunk, etc. lol
You could get a touring bike that has bags , is comfortable and has actual useable power 🎉
I’m gonna hear “I’m 5’11” with a 32in inseam” in my nightmares…
Where’s my gotdamn Ducati V4R Yammie?!?!
MT-07 is a beast for sure 🎉
Should be against R7
Where did he find the full yoshi exhaust??
MT07 ergonomics is way more friendlier then any sport bike
I kinda of think anything over a 125 isn't a beginner bike.
in 20 years those zx4rr will be collectable 😊
And you're completely right. Unfortunately, motorcycling outside countries where it's endemic (e.g. India) is dominated by hotheads and peer pressure - which is what makes it appear so dangerous to everyone else.
Best, yet most expensive thing for everyone is to progress with bikes. Start off with 125, then some 30-50hp bike and then you can go all out. EU kinda forces it with diffrent licences. Still even on the smallest of bikes idiot will kill himself
I own both of these bikes and I would NEVER recommend the MT-07 to a beginner. That bike wheelies way to easy for that.
Plus I'm 6'2 190 and when I sit on my buddy's it feels like I could lift it over my head. Total hooligan bike
@@funk-n-groovin6779perfect bike for me but I started on r1 08 that’s the power house those two little toys
I own MT-07, it's my first bike and I would highly recomend it even to complete beginner, even unrestricted, no need to start on 35kW. My bike never tend to do a wheelie, you have to full throttle thru clutch to make a wheelie, so it can't happen accidentally.
Would you say the zx4rr could be a beginner bike? Im 5’7 and want something i can be able to flat foot and can also grow into.
Discount code? 😃😊
I agree with the returning rider i started on a 250rr and i hated it so much that i stopped riding eventually found myself on an mt07 and its night and day tue torque on the bike and the mt range and crossplane just lovely i will be a lifelong yamaha customer
Zxr400rr would be a dream bike for a beginner. Learn all the basics then have the ecu flash. Thats like upgrading a bike with the same bike.
BTW it's still scary lol 😆 pulls hard throws you into the turns real nice as well
How much performance to you add with the ecu flash?
@@RedRager3 u get the bikes raw hp it comes as 55 hp with flash 77 with ram air 80
Why not cb650r as first bike?
I would personally get the cbr650r over the zx4
Is the Ninja 650R really as underwhelming as everyone says?
I wanted a ninja for my first bike and really like the Ninja 400, but I wanted a 650cc version of that. So... Would the Ninja 650 really be that bad of a choice?
i would say get the 400 if you care about the slightly more aggressive body position. there isn’t too much difference in power
Engine is a 180° twin, so it's not as characterful as some of the other engines in the 650/700 class. I personally found it a little boring when I rode one. Very smooth engine though.
Just comes down to what you want out of a bike.
You can go check out R7 and see if it fit your needs.
I think that is a decent introduction to sport bikes. Very comfortable ergonomics and a healthy amount of power for a beginner. I’d rather get an r7 but if you’re a ninja fan then the 650 would be just fine.
I think it's a great beginner bike. It's a the ninja 400 with more power. Highways are gonna be easier to cruise on and abit more torque for the street/ twisties. Comfy ergonomics like hybrid between naked/ sport. The r7 and cb650r can definitely get from underneath you/ more aggressive. Won't get bored on the 650 as quickly as u would the 400
Dam i need that zx4rr
Ive been riding 3 years now, i finally got an mt07 and its definetly not for beginners. Id say get drz400sm on slightly knobby tires and learn to ride on and offroad, then get the mt07 lol. Thats skipping 12 bikes i owned btw.
Can't compare apple to pears
Im 6’2” which bike would be better?
You're a tall guy so probably MT07...heard ZX4RR is cramped
Yammie - did U apply your tats with a Bic pen? 😂
Zx4RR is my favorite bike
Mt07
Isn’t the RS660 better than both of these ?!?
Just go r7 if you think like that it’s more reliable in my opinion
Ofc it is better, it's the best middle naked bike.
ZX4RR as a beginner bike all day. Me want.
But it should be vs R7 at that price and type of bike. This just highlights how good the Mt-07 is.
MT07 All day
R1 all day
I would not call either of these beginner bikes, maybe the ninja, but if you never rode a street bike but you have ridden say scooters or dirt bikes or even quads, then sure.
none of those, get the honda hornet 2023
Bruh I started on a r1 , but i got a 400 for track
Yami is fhe reason we cant find any yamahas
I really like the look of the MT07 it looks really slick, especially with those tires, hoooo
Also good luck to those in the give away🤟🏽
🤣 The MT07 sounds like an XR100
Yamaha mt07💙💙💙
It's actually funny because I own both of these motorcycles
Cb650r anyday
I love my Z900
This is is *EASY* Triumph Street Triple 765
MT07 all day long.
Mt 07 all day.
In philippines its 499k pesos both of them is 499k
$12K out the door for a starter bike......NOPE!!!!! Buy the ZX-6R instead for the $1K more.
I’m gonna win that ZX4RR!!
Good luck 🍻
I really hope you do
It should be compared to cbr650r
Hope i win !!
i hate the fact that these bikes are called "beginner"
Neither gsxr750
My man I just went with 1k fuk it I started on r1 08 still have it and just got a GSXR 1000 2022 next is H2
MT 07 is as boring as the twins from the past! ZX4RR is a bad ass motorcycle for the individual that loves advancement.
Yeah,but i don't like Yamaha?
Terrible comparison..🤨
MT-07 vs Ninja400r would be a far better comparison match.
you calll a 700cc bike beginners bike lol
im a zx4rr simp 🥺
Zx ...17k bloodline ...mine gött
None of them are begginers bikes!
Mt 07 isnt a beginner bike 💀
Kinda sorta is.....with all the rider aids it's very beginner friendly, even for 15 year olds like me!!
@@bihbrosgaming The MT07 has rider aids?
@liamcraven4936 sure does!
Like TCS,ABS and lean sensitive ABS! Although I don't know if it has wheelie control
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@@bihbrosgaming It has basic ABS, but that's about it. Mine is an older model though, so I don't know if the newer ones do.
i would have bought a new MT07 if it werent for the IMO retarded color scheme. i hate it. give me one in Yamaha blue and im a buyer. dunno why Yamaha felt the need to go cyan. i hope Yamaha sees this. note likely but hopeful.
FYI i went with a Kawasaki z900 in blue instead. far more attractive (and far more powerful) bike
I love the cyan look. Has that cyberpunk aesthetic
Thanks Yammie, This video is for the 24 year olds in Europe who want a full bike license.
I favor the Trident 660 over the MT-07 every day.
Cool story
I'm 17 and have riden an mt07 and it looked like it had a quickshifter
It looked like😂😂😂 brah you have no business on a bike go to school
Get a cfmoto 450ss and get a great bike while saving tons of 💰
I can't believe anyone would waste $12,000 on a 400cc Shitbike.
Not 12K, but I'll gladly pay a premium for a ZX4R or a similar bike in the future over a 400cc twin. Sounds better, rides more fun, and it will be cheaper to register, insure, and most likely fuel than a 600+ cc.
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It's a toilet
You are not objective bcs you are yamaha fan. Honda cb750 hornet is much better then mt07
0 to 80, the mt07 wins. 80 to 130, the ninja wins.