Tony La Russa ruined his career. He did not have to address it publicly and schold him. Yermin could have been a all star but la russa ruined it. La Russa might lead the sox to a world series but man, yermin was doing wonderful and he just made him quit. Awful decison by a manager
It’s a 50-50 for me, yeah la Russa should have maybe thought about what he would say in front of cameras and address to yermin personally. Now days everybody is soft asf you can’t really say nothing because there will be a fit on any way you address a situation. La russa would have been under heat any way he would have handled this particular situation there’s no doubt in my mind. It sucks but that’s the way it is now days. Now, yermin was tearing pitching up. Did you forget that people are scouting? I knew he would get into a slump sooner or later. Everyone does. He just had to adjust to what they were throwing him. Teams studied him and cracked him, simple. He was way too busy on the spotlight getting all the attention that he forgot to study pitchers. So no you can not blame this on la russa at all. Prove me wrong!
As a Sox fan Gavin Sheets, Adam Engel and Jake Burger more than make up for him being sent down however it doesn't change the fact that La Russa is a huge reason for him struggling and ultimately failing.
Has absolutely nothing to do with TLR. I’m a Sox fan and he has been playing at a below average level before being sent down. This white Sox team is trying to compete this year and if you’re not able to contribute to the team you will be replaced. Simple as that. Yermin couldn’t handle being sent down so he had a fit on Instagram.
La Russa is a big example of why old heads are ruining baseball. These unwritten rules bullshit needs to end. This is one of thé biggest reason why baseball is dying. No one can express themselves without “breaking an unwritten rule” thus taking the fun out of the game.
When your manager gives you the take sign you take the pitch. You don’t swing and then pimp a HR against a position player. Guy was lucky he wasn’t cut that day
It would mess me up too if my OWN COACH was okay with me getting plunked. That’s just terrible. Even giradi defended the hell out of Arod when he got plunked by the Red Sox.
Easy and false narrative which falls apart by a quick glance at the statistics. For the month of April, Mercedes was one of the best offensive players in baseball, hitting .400 with an OPS over 1.000. The 3-0 home run came on May 17, and Mercedes was hitting just .243 in May prior to this event with just one home run since April 18. Mercedes’ descent back down to earth was already well under way
No, LaRussa did not ruin Mercedes career. LaRussa is probably going to take the White Sox to a World Series championship this year. Mercedes could have learned so much about the game from LaRussa if he had just used his head. Instead, Yermin got his feelings hurt and quit! Once he grows up and toughens up, maybe he can handle playing major league baseball and the criticism that comes with it. Until then, he needs to stay gone for everyone's sake.
He is a journey man minor leaguer. Tony didn’t ruin his career, remember the guy for the brewers who slugged the first two months a few years ago he cooled off
I mean I don't agree with larussa, and it may have gotten in his head for sure, but what probably is more realistic is pitching found holes in his swing and started to pitch him appropriately and he couldn't adjust. You see it a lot with rookies. They will have a good few months or a good year and then pitching adjusts and they start doing poorly and the great ones will adjust accordingly and bounce back and some people can't handle it. I mean he's 28. He's just now getting up? There's a reason for it. The dude definitely has some talent so hopefully he can rebound and get with another team or something and maybe get a nice few years stretch where he plays some decent baseball but while I think larussa was ridiculous for not backing his guy, that's not going to cause someone to just catastrophically fail.
LaRussa is old school, and the last of a dying breed of managers in baseball. He's not going to coddle his players like the rest of these BETA managers are, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have compassion. While I don't agree with him throwing Yermin under the bus, I agree with everything else he did in this situation. Yermin was hot garbage in May anyway, and was sucking before that incident. One month of hitting .400 doesn't make you a great player. He does have an upside. He's got a pretty good bat, but an obvious hitch in his swing that needs adjusting. I was able to tell by the way he swung the bat that he had pop, but couldn't hit a breaking ball to save his life. It was obvious to me even before his average went down. What bothered me most was he believed all the hype surrounding him. "Yerminator" t-shirts?? He even had a freaking BURGER NAMED AFTER HIM!!!! I'm pretty sure this got out to veteran pitchers around the league, and they wanted to make an example of this kid, which they did. He became uncoachable, showing up late for games, and not listening to his coaches' instructions, doing what he wants to do. This is the generation we're in. He is paid to play baseball, and he has a responsibility to his coaches. If he's not going to listen to them, he will lose his job, and there are many ballplayers who are looking to replace his ass. This just happened. Now you have guys like Goodwin, Lamb, a Sheets smoking the hell out of the ball, hitting for contact, and they play defense. All Mercedes has done was hit, and he couldn't even do that consistently. I really hope he does get it together, keep playing well enough in Charlotte to get called back up in September, and I believe that he will.
Unwritten rule says not to swing. It wasn't about following a sign, TLR and Twins were furious about a broken rule. It makes no sense especially when the pitcher doesn't force a 3-0 count. The pitcher put himself in that position.
@@gnarlyburrito5123 I think its a horse shit "unwritten rule", but you're leaving out the score. The whole "rule" is based on not swinging 3-0 when you're up by a metric shit ton. Similar to not swiping bags when you're up by that much. And he did blatantly disregard a sign, that was the bigger issue in the whole situation from Tony's perspective, and rightfully so.
@@mikewebster8224 It should be like Football and Soccer or Any other sport...Listen to the Coach, but if you get a easy play...take it. NO ONE WOULD OF CARED IF HE FLEW OUT...IT'S BS and the announcers saying You were gonna get the same pitch right after makes no sense!
@@joshuawebb6694 i watched the game the pitcher started his windup when the sign came up, no batter is looking at coaches at that pt, besides who cares about the other teams feelings, ive said this all my life if teams dont want guys swinging, they can forfeit
You don't ignore a 'take' sign. You don't embarrass an opponent when they're clearly doing a fine job of it to themselves. If you do, expect one in the pocket next time up. Mercedes IS clueless and Philly (or Japan) would LOVE him...for a year. If he couldn't respond to conventional management procedures then changing tactics is what happens. You wanna play YOU'RE game, then Tony can play his. If you don't get it then maybe you can get it in Charlotte. Nobody's gonna be naming a sandwich after you down there. Maybe if he was more than a ONE TOOL PLAYER he'd have had more of a case. I'd be shipping him, his swag, his attitude and his whining to Pittsburgh or some other godforsaken franchise on the next bus out.
Why do people always blame others for everything they do??? People take zero accountability for the situation they’re in. If he’s that immature and can’t handle being criticized, that’s on him and nobody else.
Unwritten rules have been in existence since the beginning of time. It's nothing new. Yermin was being a candyass. I'm a White Sox fan saying this, too.
No he did not. I watch almost every Sox game. There was even a video after the fact of Yermin and Tony laughing together. Yermins problem is he can’t play in the field and we don’t need another DH on the team. Eloy is almost back and it’s looking like Andrew Vaughn has taken his position in LF and Eloy will be playing DH. Also, Gavin Sheets is hitting well and will also be playing DH and RF at times. Yermin has fallen out of favor and it happens. It’s not Tony’s fault.
They should put in a run rule , just like in little league that way we wouldn't need another unwritten rule. But when the other team is punting by putting in a position player to pitch and coach is telling you to take 3-0 then you take the pitch because that's your job.
That Yermin was a headache. Would show up late for practice, late for games, etc etc. No wonder he ignored the signs. No discipline, no work ethic. In the end his lack of hard work, and not Larussa, probably caused his game to slip.
CLICKBAIT! He was struggling for a couple weeks before this ever happened. It'd be cool if content creators didnt make shit up for clicks, but you know, lack of integrity will do that for people.
so were other players on the team, he has a point, just like countless of baseball analyst said the same thing, he was on a 1 for 26 slump, then when he breaks out with a grand slam, coach shits on him in public, does not defend him when they are throwing at him, tell him he can not be himself. Yeah larussa is pos coach
Being a Cardinals fan, I'm not entirely surprised that Tony La Russa is acting like such a curmudgeon here. He was difficult to work with even while he was manager of the Cardinals. For example, he couldn't get along with Ozzie Smith. In 1996, tensions developed between La Russa and Smith, and Smith retired at the end of that season. Smith kept his distance from the team UNTIL after La Russa "retired" in 2011. I don't know what kind of a person Ozzie Smith is, but from what I've seen of him, he seems pretty easy to get along with. If he doesn't like you, there's something very wrong going on. There was also some bad blood between La Russa and Scott Rolen that contributed to Rolen leaving the Cardinals. So, it's not just that Tony La Russa's old. Partly. The rest of it could just be Tony La Russa being himself. I'm not defending him, just saying his behavior isn't coming out of nowhere.
it was both ends of the spectrum with ozzie and la russa... ozzie was known to be an asshole in the cardinals clubhouse his whole career... and ozzie didnt want to share time with royce clayton and butted heads with larussa...
@@darthvadersith514 yep that pretty much sums it up he ruined ankiels pitching career also cuz he shouldnt have started him cuz he wasnt mentally in the game cuz what happened to his father.. la russa didnt care but ended up feeling guilty about it honestly
I am a White Sox fan born and raised on the southside of Chicago been here my whole life I have a lot of respect for Tony but you have to let these young guys play!! I don’t care if we’re up 20 to 0 KEEP GOING!! You should always love your fans more than you respect your opponent
It should of been a closed door in-house talk not broadcasted. And the manager always “should” stick up for his players right or wrong. Just my opinion. I’m glad the kid is giving it another shot and now he knows how to handle the ups and downs that come up through out a season. Solid hitter for sure and really hope he gets another shot and continues his young career. Hope he realizes that he has the talent and that the game will be just that, a game! Have fun even if it’s a business; just play the game the way he feels comfortable. Now get on that field Mercedes and show us all what you got bro…. Baseball is life!
4 Reasons why this is absolutely horrible! 1. When a team puts a position player on the bump, they are conceding the game and saving REAL arms so they can play YOU tomorrow with more tools available to beat your ass. 2. When a player’s numbers are being considered during arbitration for his coming salary, numbers matter! He is statistically measured against other similar players, every HR, RBI WAR etal. matters at the end of the day (season) 3. When Tony, a baseball "icon" publicly chit-talks a kid who he is supposed to be protecting from the world, this snub has got to be devastating. We all know Baseball is mental! 4. When you have a nightmare, and you go wake up daddy to check for monsters under the bed and daddy tells you, “yea kid, there are monsters under your bed and they are coming for you with my blessing” WTF do you think is going to happen? So screw yet another unwritten rule of baseball. If you put a lollypop on the mound, smile and enjoy the fireworks or go home. Its so stupid.
He has a hot streak...he was a career minor leaguer...he reverted back to who he is...if he can't mentally accept a manager being mad he ignored a sign... people Always forget that part swinging 3 0 isn't the issue ignoring your managers sign as a rookie is unacceptable
Pitchers adjusted to him, he failed to adjust to what they were pitching him. Obviously the kid has some talent, not .800 hitter but if he makes the adjustments and stops expanding the strike zone, he can have a productive MLB career if he wants to put in the work...
And you clearly know nothing about baseball either. Does anyone on this thread even know the game? Maybe there's like 2 or 3 of us on here that actually do... or maybe everyone here is just younger. I don't know...
Bro I'm a twins fan and he did not deserve this man, let players play how they want to play, as long as they don't break actual hard and fast rules, why shouldn't they be able to play their way?
I'd be pissed too if my coach was publicly supportive of a teams choice to whip a baseball at me for hitting a homerun. Baseball has soft players worse than soccer it's just less obvious
20 years ago, I played D1 college ball for an old-timer former MLB player like LaRussa. One year, In an intra-squad practice game, I hit a first-pitch curveball farther than I had ever hit a ball - absolute BOMB - and slowly walked to watch where it landed, as I had never hit a ball that hard. I wasn't hot-dogging it or show-boating, I just wanted to see where it landed. I wasn't the home run hitting type of player. Well, my coach came unhinged! Supposedly, I wasn't "respecting" the game. He went off and never treated me the same after that. Sadly, that was the end of my college career for all intents and purposes. I never made it out of his "dog-house". I was, and remained a starter, but after that, my coach found every excuse to pull me from the line-up and mess with my head. One series I went 7 for 10 and won conference player of the week and the next series I started a game 0 for 3 and got benched for the rest of the game and the next. This was my Junior year and I finished 2nd on the team with a .350 BA 1.000+ OPS. I was amazed that I ended with such good numbers as each game was a mental grind. I was told in my exit interview that year that I would have to earn a starting spot my senior year. I ended up calling it a career and didn't return for my senior season. Baseball wasn't fun anymore thanks to this douche coach. Baseball has a huge psychological component to it and when you lose confidence or the confidence of others - especially a coach - it can lead to major slumps. I feel for Yermin. LaRussa needs to go. Some of these old-timers suffer from some weird type of delusions of grandeur complex and want to make themselves feel more important that they actually are. LaRussa definitely has something to do with Yermin's struggles.
You just had a shitty coach. La Russa is close with all of his players, and was very close with Mercedes even after the incident. You don't know shit about what's going on in the White Sox clubhouse. You are basing this on your experience with your washed-up ex-MLB player coach. Ever think of that?
First, he didn’t retire. Second, while you can disagree with how LaRussa handled the incident, but if that is enough for Mercedes to completely fall apart and suck, he was never going to make it long term anyways. It’s much more likely that pitchers adjusted to a player who’s got power, but not elite talent, and he wasn’t able to adjust long term. Barring anything major coming out about something he’s dealing with in his personal life, Mercedes needs to grow tf up and keep grinding and working hard to make it back to the MLB. Plenty of AAA all stars aren’t close to good enough to have a long career in the majors.
It's only when you're up a ridiculous amount, and I think the purpose Is to keep teams from having to use up their entire bullpen in a game they can't win
I hope Yermin is ok and Tim Anderson is a class act - Yermin didn’t deserve to get treated that way by LaRussa nor hit by pitches - he has story like all of us - a journey it took to get the majors - dedicated himself to the team and believed but if the manager reacts and treats a player like that is a disservice in a game that is mental as much as physical - he needed to learn from his mistake not be crucified for it - also - his triple AAA stats - call him up - I hope he is ok and comes back
Everyone is blasting La Russa for not coddling Mercedes. While I agree that he’s an old school manager and that for better or worse, his style does not mesh with today’s game, ultimately this comes down to Mercedes and his capacity to handle adversity. Now, if Mercedes has legitimate mental/emotional struggles then I hope he receives the help he deserves and returns when he’s healthy. What is also likely is that he just can’t handle tough managing. We’ve all had tough and outright horrible managers/coaches/bosses/teachers/etc and 99.999% of the time not while working the job of our dreams. We all feel like quitting sometimes but usually we don’t and/or can’t. We stick it through, use the negativity as inspiration to work harder and silence those we feel have wronged us. If this is just another public tantrum as this generation of players are prone to display then he can either return, be humble, be great and make us forget this hiccup ever happened. Or he can “retire” and become a footnote for analysts. Again, all the empathy if he needs help for emotional/mental battles. Otherwise… throw dirt in it bro.
it pisses me off. i don’t care what anyone says but he was the reason for the white sox early season success, he was killing it EVERYONE loved him, then once he went into a slump everyone started shitting on him acting like he didn’t help us win so many games early in the season. he has one of the best bats on the team, he makes contact with almost every pitch and has crazy power. i just hate the fact that he’s disrespected so much in this league, he deserves so much more
Without any actual evidence, I'm not sure we can definitely say Larussa is responsible. But it presents an interesting discussion. I am not sure he will actually retire, rather he might sign a minor league deal with another team. I don't think we'll ever know all the details, but the ones we get won't come until later years to come. Probably when both Larussa and Mercedes are for sure retired.
Not a fan of La Russa but bottom line is La Russa isn't the one swinging the bat. That incident happened 2 months ago; he hit his dinger, he got plunkted, La Russa said what he said and it's over now. Yermin's in a slump, it happens to a lot of players and no doubt he's been in a slump at least once before during his 9 years in the minors. It could also be that the book has been written on him and pitchers may have found out he has a problem with certain pitches. It happens. Anyway, he's not the first player to go into a slump and certainly won't be the last. Hopefully he'll take a deep breath and get back into the batter's Box and find his swing again.
@@coachcarter8238 I'm 40... So 35 years. These imaginary rules all silly, we don't try if we too far ahead to see of the other guys can come back . we don't swing 0-3 because we hate getting easy hits on fastballs down the middle. And we certainly don't hit home runs off pitchers who are not actually pitchers. Every time Willy comes out to pitch the Twins should be fine 50k
@@coachcarter8238 That fantastic. But if your a continuous drunk and have been had multiple DUI's. Should even be allowed to be manage and mentor these young players. We should all be lucky he has not killed someone. If he killed someone. What would you say then? He a 3 time champion and should be given a break.
Yeah, I am not a super fan of this youtuber. Honestly, I get his video recommended alot but he doesnt do his research and alot of his videos are clickbaits.
"Don't swing 3-0 when ur leading by double digits!!" ... An unspoken rule as useless as "don't bunt in a no-hitter" Fuck the Unspoken Rule. Just petition the League to make new rules. If feelings are hurt so much, ur own manager is gonna berate u for clean play, if it's SO GODDAMNED important to you ... just petition the League. Leave the rest of Pro Baseball alone.
One guy replies he wasn't slumping and the other says 2 weeks slumping does not make a season. 2 weeks not hitting well is the definition of a slump. He hadn't hit a HR in nearly a month. In retrospect, he was smack dab in the middle of a slump that ended with him in AAA. He's 27 and never cracked MLB roster. There's a reason why.
@@maco7723 He was hitting. 243 for the month of May down from 400 for April. After that Twins game it kept going downhill and was obvious he was now pressing. Before when he had 2 strikes he cut down his swing and big leg kick. Seems like the lime light got to him. He started wearing massive gold chains and kept swinging for the moon even with 2 strikes. That's not what got him to the big leagues. He was I the middle of a downward spiral. Im a Sox fan and watch just about every pitch. Just admit your wrong and go about your day.
This is so weird I hate that larussa did that. There has not been any official announcement as of last night to the white Sox so I hope this isn’t true
Has nothing to do with la russa. Yermin was struggling terribly BEFORE the home run. BEFORE. Idk why people are looking for someone to blame for this. He got himself sent down. And of course with Eloy and Robert rehabbing currently, yermin knows there’s no longer a spot for him.
Mercedes was batting .271 for the season when sent down. That's much higher than the 2021 MLB average. Yes, his hitting was dropping, but at a slow rate for his final weeks. Yermin's last 3 games - 10 AB, 3 H, 3 RBI, 2 R, 2 BB, 0 SO. I'm a 66 year old White Sox fan, I'm old school, but LaRussa is ancient school. Reinsdorf and LaRussa are senile buddies, they have no business still being involved in MLB.
I'm a White Sox fan and was pretty pissed about it as we could have Hahn (even though I was not happy with the cheating he allowed). Also TLR was horrible for us to in a few games in the first 2 months. But since he hasn't really done much to ruin anymore games and since the whole Mercedes 3-0 count ordeal, he now has all the players following him which is key for any ball club. I think the Sox could put any manager in that dugout and they will have huge success, but only a few can get them over the hump. I really hope TLR trends more towards the small ball approach, even more so than what he already has.
@@sarahwolfe1154 Its certainly part of it. Yermin doesn't seem to have a strong mental game and hitting is extremely mental. The dude finally made it to the bigs and is mashing. Then his manager publicly pisses on him twice and suddenly he can't hit. Sure, Larissa isn't swinging the bat but he certainly did not help. Good managers know their players and do their best to get the most out of them. He was more worried about how things looked than about his player and team's success. Its seems like following silly "unwritten rules" is more important to Larissa than anything else.
UPDATE: Mercedes has apparently unretired
Tony La Russa ruined his career. He did not have to address it publicly and schold him. Yermin could have been a all star but la russa ruined it. La Russa might lead the sox to a world series but man, yermin was doing wonderful and he just made him quit. Awful decison by a manager
Old school baseball guys need to go away! Let the kids be themselves!
Disappointing. If he was with another team they would have made him a fan favorite. I hope he makes a comeback
It’s a 50-50 for me, yeah la Russa should have maybe thought about what he would say in front of cameras and address to yermin personally. Now days everybody is soft asf you can’t really say nothing because there will be a fit on any way you address a situation. La russa would have been under heat any way he would have handled this particular situation there’s no doubt in my mind. It sucks but that’s the way it is now days. Now, yermin was tearing pitching up. Did you forget that people are scouting? I knew he would get into a slump sooner or later. Everyone does. He just had to adjust to what they were throwing him. Teams studied him and cracked him, simple. He was way too busy on the spotlight getting all the attention that he forgot to study pitchers. So no you can not blame this on la russa at all. Prove me wrong!
As a Sox fan Gavin Sheets, Adam Engel and Jake Burger more than make up for him being sent down however it doesn't change the fact that La Russa is a huge reason for him struggling and ultimately failing.
And he's back
These stupid unwritten rules are ruining baseball
Moral of the story: Don't f**k with the Minnesota Twins, especially Astudillo, OR YOU WILL BE CURSED.
This is what happens when your manager is so old that he can barely walk.
Tony “DUI” LaRussa
He came back, 15 hour retirement
Has absolutely nothing to do with TLR. I’m a Sox fan and he has been playing at a below average level before being sent down. This white Sox team is trying to compete this year and if you’re not able to contribute to the team you will be replaced. Simple as that. Yermin couldn’t handle being sent down so he had a fit on Instagram.
The smartest comment I've read. THANK YOU.
annnnd he unretired after one day
Well he is back within a day lol
Yes!
La Russa is a big example of why old heads are ruining baseball. These unwritten rules bullshit needs to end. This is one of thé biggest reason why baseball is dying. No one can express themselves without “breaking an unwritten rule” thus taking the fun out of the game.
I gotta agree with you lad, These pitchers act like baby’s when they give up a home run at 3-0 count, like Trevor Bauer said: Just get better then.
When your manager gives you the take sign you take the pitch. You don’t swing and then pimp a HR against a position player. Guy was lucky he wasn’t cut that day
@@2299mikey the other team put in a position player and gave up. I’d pimp a homer against him
@@2299mikey but he did said he did not see it
It would mess me up too if my OWN COACH was okay with me getting plunked. That’s just terrible. Even giradi defended the hell out of Arod when he got plunked by the Red Sox.
Exactly. Just disgusting that your own coach is perfectly fine with you getting throw at.
That’s what you get for being selfish. He gave him the take sign and Yermin decided to be selfish. Now he’s gonna be dead in a ditch because he’s weak
@@2299mikey it’s part of the game who cares. if you didn’t want people to nuke ur pitches don’t put in a position player to pitch…
@@2299mikey yeah.... it's that big of a deal🤦♂️....
I’d rather keep Rick R. Or bring back Ozzie G.
We ruined each other every day 🤣
Lol
Easy and false narrative which falls apart by a quick glance at the statistics. For the month of April, Mercedes was one of the best offensive players in baseball, hitting .400 with an OPS over 1.000. The 3-0 home run came on May 17, and Mercedes was hitting just .243 in May prior to this event with just one home run since April 18. Mercedes’ descent back down to earth was already well under way
iTalk has never let facts get in the way of his idiotic takes and millennial-like viewpoints
No, LaRussa did not ruin Mercedes career. LaRussa is probably going to take the White Sox to a World Series championship this year. Mercedes could have learned so much about the game from LaRussa if he had just used his head. Instead, Yermin got his feelings hurt and quit! Once he grows up and toughens up, maybe he can handle playing major league baseball and the criticism that comes with it. Until then, he needs to stay gone for everyone's sake.
tony la rusa should retire
He is a journey man minor leaguer. Tony didn’t ruin his career, remember the guy for the brewers who slugged the first two months a few years ago he cooled off
My point exactly.
@@coachcarter8238 people take everything personal today
I mean I don't agree with larussa, and it may have gotten in his head for sure, but what probably is more realistic is pitching found holes in his swing and started to pitch him appropriately and he couldn't adjust. You see it a lot with rookies. They will have a good few months or a good year and then pitching adjusts and they start doing poorly and the great ones will adjust accordingly and bounce back and some people can't handle it. I mean he's 28. He's just now getting up? There's a reason for it. The dude definitely has some talent so hopefully he can rebound and get with another team or something and maybe get a nice few years stretch where he plays some decent baseball but while I think larussa was ridiculous for not backing his guy, that's not going to cause someone to just catastrophically fail.
LaRussa is old school, and the last of a dying breed of managers in baseball. He's not going to coddle his players like the rest of these BETA managers are, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have compassion. While I don't agree with him throwing Yermin under the bus, I agree with everything else he did in this situation. Yermin was hot garbage in May anyway, and was sucking before that incident. One month of hitting .400 doesn't make you a great player. He does have an upside. He's got a pretty good bat, but an obvious hitch in his swing that needs adjusting. I was able to tell by the way he swung the bat that he had pop, but couldn't hit a breaking ball to save his life. It was obvious to me even before his average went down. What bothered me most was he believed all the hype surrounding him. "Yerminator" t-shirts?? He even had a freaking BURGER NAMED AFTER HIM!!!! I'm pretty sure this got out to veteran pitchers around the league, and they wanted to make an example of this kid, which they did. He became uncoachable, showing up late for games, and not listening to his coaches' instructions, doing what he wants to do. This is the generation we're in. He is paid to play baseball, and he has a responsibility to his coaches. If he's not going to listen to them, he will lose his job, and there are many ballplayers who are looking to replace his ass. This just happened. Now you have guys like Goodwin, Lamb, a Sheets smoking the hell out of the ball, hitting for contact, and they play defense. All Mercedes has done was hit, and he couldn't even do that consistently. I really hope he does get it together, keep playing well enough in Charlotte to get called back up in September, and I believe that he will.
Way to go Tony....have another drink. "Schmuck"
UPDATE he is playing for Charlotte Knights and is carrying the team send him back to the majors!
He’s back
Nice continuity with LaRusa wearing a Diamondbacks golf shirt.
Is all Tony fault destroying his players confidence
3-0 Count: Not allowed to swing?
3-1 Count: Ok?
HOW DOES THAT MATTER
He likely ignored a sign.
Unwritten rule says not to swing. It wasn't about following a sign, TLR and Twins were furious about a broken rule. It makes no sense especially when the pitcher doesn't force a 3-0 count. The pitcher put himself in that position.
@@gnarlyburrito5123 I think its a horse shit "unwritten rule", but you're leaving out the score. The whole "rule" is based on not swinging 3-0 when you're up by a metric shit ton. Similar to not swiping bags when you're up by that much. And he did blatantly disregard a sign, that was the bigger issue in the whole situation from Tony's perspective, and rightfully so.
@@mikewebster8224 It should be like Football and Soccer or Any other sport...Listen to the Coach, but if you get a easy play...take it.
NO ONE WOULD OF CARED IF HE FLEW OUT...IT'S BS and the announcers saying You were gonna get the same pitch right after makes no sense!
@@joshuawebb6694 i watched the game the pitcher started his windup when the sign came up, no batter is looking at coaches at that pt, besides who cares about the other teams feelings, ive said this all my life if teams dont want guys swinging, they can forfeit
Hit a home run and your first thought is "well that's my career over"
Lmao he just un retired apparently
HES BACK
He's already back lmao
Sad! He’s such a unique player. Hope he comes back. And feels ok.
WHy is unique??
If a 28 year old career minor leaguer who can't play the field is unique player to you..
He’s a good catcher it’s just that the white Sox catcher is a known quantity
He's back lol
@Tod Michaelsen well good news he is back
The league figured him out by pitching that slider down and away. It is up to him to adjust.
La Russa is Lord Palpatine
You don't ignore a 'take' sign. You don't embarrass an opponent when they're clearly doing a fine job of it to themselves. If you do, expect one in the pocket next time up. Mercedes IS clueless and Philly (or Japan) would LOVE him...for a year. If he couldn't respond to conventional management procedures then changing tactics is what happens. You wanna play YOU'RE game, then Tony can play his. If you don't get it then maybe you can get it in Charlotte. Nobody's gonna be naming a sandwich after you down there. Maybe if he was more than a ONE TOOL PLAYER he'd have had more of a case. I'd be shipping him, his swag, his attitude and his whining to Pittsburgh or some other godforsaken franchise on the next bus out.
THANK YOU!!
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Why do people always blame others for everything they do??? People take zero accountability for the situation they’re in. If he’s that immature and can’t handle being criticized, that’s on him and nobody else.
This is the BETA snowflake generation where we coddle people instead of holding them accountable.
He’s baaaack
unwritten rules destroying careers now
Unwritten rules have been in existence since the beginning of time. It's nothing new. Yermin was being a candyass. I'm a White Sox fan saying this, too.
I hope Yermin is ok :(
Same. It’s sad to see.
Hey onyx lol
@@9inningsplayer hello
More than anything I hope physical emotionally and all around he’s ok… when things like this pop up seemingly out of nowhere I get nervous…
@@anthonybaratta6152 same I hope he can bounce back from this :)
He just "unretired". I bet La Russa called him today and begged him back 😂
Lol I'm sure LaRussa didn't give a fuck
Who's here after he's back lol
Umm.. I think he just unretired
Laughable. Yermin Mercedes is ruining Yermin Mercedes' career.
No he did not. I watch almost every Sox game. There was even a video after the fact of Yermin and Tony laughing together. Yermins problem is he can’t play in the field and we don’t need another DH on the team. Eloy is almost back and it’s looking like Andrew Vaughn has taken his position in LF and Eloy will be playing DH. Also, Gavin Sheets is hitting well and will also be playing DH and RF at times. Yermin has fallen out of favor and it happens. It’s not Tony’s fault.
They should put in a run rule , just like in little league that way we wouldn't need another unwritten rule. But when the other team is punting by putting in a position player to pitch and coach is telling you to take 3-0 then you take the pitch because that's your job.
This isn't little league.
lol he just anounced hes un-retiring
Hey, god forbid we should wreck an outfielder's pitching stats, right?
He gone be back
He’s back now
That Yermin was a headache. Would show up late for practice, late for games, etc etc. No wonder he ignored the signs. No discipline, no work ethic. In the end his lack of hard work, and not Larussa, probably caused his game to slip.
CLICKBAIT! He was struggling for a couple weeks before this ever happened. It'd be cool if content creators didnt make shit up for clicks, but you know, lack of integrity will do that for people.
so were other players on the team, he has a point, just like countless of baseball analyst said the same thing, he was on a 1 for 26 slump, then when he breaks out with a grand slam, coach shits on him in public, does not defend him when they are throwing at him, tell him he can not be himself. Yeah larussa is pos coach
He needs to be a Padre. Good thing Tattis isn't playing for La Russa. He would of gone crazy with that skip step around 3rd.
Being a Cardinals fan, I'm not entirely surprised that Tony La Russa is acting like such a curmudgeon here. He was difficult to work with even while he was manager of the Cardinals. For example, he couldn't get along with Ozzie Smith. In 1996, tensions developed between La Russa and Smith, and Smith retired at the end of that season. Smith kept his distance from the team UNTIL after La Russa "retired" in 2011. I don't know what kind of a person Ozzie Smith is, but from what I've seen of him, he seems pretty easy to get along with. If he doesn't like you, there's something very wrong going on. There was also some bad blood between La Russa and Scott Rolen that contributed to Rolen leaving the Cardinals.
So, it's not just that Tony La Russa's old. Partly. The rest of it could just be Tony La Russa being himself. I'm not defending him, just saying his behavior isn't coming out of nowhere.
it was both ends of the spectrum with ozzie and la russa... ozzie was known to be an asshole in the cardinals clubhouse his whole career... and ozzie didnt want to share time with royce clayton and butted heads with larussa...
@@joshualee-gs9yv Ah, I didn't know that. Still, it shows tensions between players and La Russa aren't new.
@@darthvadersith514 yep that pretty much sums it up he ruined ankiels pitching career also cuz he shouldnt have started him cuz he wasnt mentally in the game cuz what happened to his father.. la russa didnt care but ended up feeling guilty about it honestly
LaRussa deserves another shingles flare up.
I am a White Sox fan born and raised on the southside of Chicago been here my whole life I have a lot of respect for Tony but you have to let these young guys play!! I don’t care if we’re up 20 to 0 KEEP GOING!! You should always love your fans more than you respect your opponent
spoken like a true white sox fan
I agree weird things happen in baseball all the time…
Game has changed and the old guard wont let it go. Let them have fun. and quit being butthurt by every little thing!!!
If the other team gives up while being slaughtered, it would be ok but they dont.
Ive seen teams score 10 in one inning this year already.
@@daBEAGLE1017 you hit the nail on the head baseball is a weird sport… ball bounces a few inches left or right and a rally could get started…
It should of been a closed door in-house talk not broadcasted. And the manager always “should” stick up for his players right or wrong. Just my opinion.
I’m glad the kid is giving it another shot and now he knows how to handle the ups and downs that come up through out a season. Solid hitter for sure and really hope he gets another shot and continues his young career. Hope he realizes that he has the talent and that the game will be just that, a game! Have fun even if it’s a business; just play the game the way he feels comfortable. Now get on that field Mercedes and show us all what you got bro…. Baseball is life!
4 Reasons why this is absolutely horrible!
1. When a team puts a position player on the bump, they are conceding the game and saving REAL arms so they can play YOU tomorrow with more tools available to beat your ass.
2. When a player’s numbers are being considered during arbitration for his coming salary, numbers matter! He is statistically measured against other similar players, every HR, RBI WAR etal. matters at the end of the day (season)
3. When Tony, a baseball "icon" publicly chit-talks a kid who he is supposed to be protecting from the world, this snub has got to be devastating. We all know Baseball is mental!
4. When you have a nightmare, and you go wake up daddy to check for monsters under the bed and daddy tells you, “yea kid, there are monsters under your bed and they are coming for you with my blessing” WTF do you think is going to happen?
So screw yet another unwritten rule of baseball. If you put a lollypop on the mound, smile and enjoy the fireworks or go home. Its so stupid.
these old school managers are so soft.
He has a hot streak...he was a career minor leaguer...he reverted back to who he is...if he can't mentally accept a manager being mad he ignored a sign... people Always forget that part swinging 3 0 isn't the issue ignoring your managers sign as a rookie is unacceptable
he did say he did not see it...
@@bigjun913 that was after his original comment that he has to be himself.. then he changed his tune most likely after getting chewed out...
Lets put a 10 run rule in baseball
This isn't little league.
Yermin was playing terribly before the 3-0 swing
Thank you! Someone needed to say it.
Pitchers adjusted to him, he failed to adjust to what they were pitching him. Obviously the kid has some talent, not .800 hitter but if he makes the adjustments and stops expanding the strike zone, he can have a productive MLB career if he wants to put in the work...
If pitchers don't want hitters to swing 3-0, then throw a strike ffs, lol
And you clearly know nothing about baseball either. Does anyone on this thread even know the game? Maybe there's like 2 or 3 of us on here that actually do... or maybe everyone here is just younger. I don't know...
Unwritten rules can be such a pain in the ass.
He’s in the line up for the Triple A team tonight he just returned
he was only gone like 5 days
La Russa is a joke to modern baseball and its time for him to be REMOVED
Bro I'm a twins fan and he did not deserve this man, let players play how they want to play, as long as they don't break actual hard and fast rules, why shouldn't they be able to play their way?
Or, maybe he should shut up, listen to his hall of fame manager, lose 25 lbs and make some money.
I'd be pissed too if my coach was publicly supportive of a teams choice to whip a baseball at me for hitting a homerun. Baseball has soft players worse than soccer it's just less obvious
And you'd probably be spit out the minor leagues like Mercedes
20 years ago, I played D1 college ball for an old-timer former MLB player like LaRussa. One year, In an intra-squad practice game, I hit a first-pitch curveball farther than I had ever hit a ball - absolute BOMB - and slowly walked to watch where it landed, as I had never hit a ball that hard. I wasn't hot-dogging it or show-boating, I just wanted to see where it landed. I wasn't the home run hitting type of player. Well, my coach came unhinged! Supposedly, I wasn't "respecting" the game. He went off and never treated me the same after that. Sadly, that was the end of my college career for all intents and purposes. I never made it out of his "dog-house". I was, and remained a starter, but after that, my coach found every excuse to pull me from the line-up and mess with my head. One series I went 7 for 10 and won conference player of the week and the next series I started a game 0 for 3 and got benched for the rest of the game and the next. This was my Junior year and I finished 2nd on the team with a .350 BA 1.000+ OPS. I was amazed that I ended with such good numbers as each game was a mental grind. I was told in my exit interview that year that I would have to earn a starting spot my senior year. I ended up calling it a career and didn't return for my senior season. Baseball wasn't fun anymore thanks to this douche coach. Baseball has a huge psychological component to it and when you lose confidence or the confidence of others - especially a coach - it can lead to major slumps. I feel for Yermin. LaRussa needs to go. Some of these old-timers suffer from some weird type of delusions of grandeur complex and want to make themselves feel more important that they actually are. LaRussa definitely has something to do with Yermin's struggles.
You just had a shitty coach. La Russa is close with all of his players, and was very close with Mercedes even after the incident. You don't know shit about what's going on in the White Sox clubhouse. You are basing this on your experience with your washed-up ex-MLB player coach. Ever think of that?
He was probably 38! Ahhhhh Baseballs unwritten rules! 😅😂🤣 Yeah it’s ok to throw at our guy! 🤬Larussa!
Giants just picked him up, can wait to see You’re Mean Mercedes on the team
The White Sox, the team's old as hell manager, and the out-of-touch Sox announcers owe the man an apology.
The old as hell manager has the team in first place. Sit down.
First, he didn’t retire. Second, while you can disagree with how LaRussa handled the incident, but if that is enough for Mercedes to completely fall apart and suck, he was never going to make it long term anyways. It’s much more likely that pitchers adjusted to a player who’s got power, but not elite talent, and he wasn’t able to adjust long term. Barring anything major coming out about something he’s dealing with in his personal life, Mercedes needs to grow tf up and keep grinding and working hard to make it back to the MLB.
Plenty of AAA all stars aren’t close to good enough to have a long career in the majors.
I don’t understand why you shouldn’t swing on a 3-0 count when your winning.
It's only when you're up a ridiculous amount, and I think the purpose Is to keep teams from having to use up their entire bullpen in a game they can't win
@@dio696 I just don’t understand why people make it such a big deal
I hope Yermin is ok and Tim Anderson is a class act - Yermin didn’t deserve to get treated that way by LaRussa nor hit by pitches - he has story like all of us - a journey it took to get the majors - dedicated himself to the team and believed but if the manager reacts and treats a player like that is a disservice in a game that is mental as much as physical - he needed to learn from his mistake not be crucified for it - also - his triple AAA stats - call him up - I hope he is ok and comes back
Yermin is weak.
That home run could have been a fly out, so what’s the big deal
The big deal was he didn't listen to his coaches, and it's not his first discipline issue either.
He should come to Seattle
Yes! Go mariners!!!!!
Yesssss we will take him
@@brodyssportsskitsgamingand4702 As an Angels fans I’d be interested in seeing that.
I have a solution, but I think that it already has been considered. What if the White Sox trade Yermin Mercedes to another MLB team.
Of course, it would be to a team that Yermin Mercedes is willing to go to.
The whole not swing on a 3-0 count is so stupid to me
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He'll be back
Everyone is blasting La Russa for not coddling Mercedes. While I agree that he’s an old school manager and that for better or worse, his style does not mesh with today’s game, ultimately this comes down to Mercedes and his capacity to handle adversity. Now, if Mercedes has legitimate mental/emotional struggles then I hope he receives the help he deserves and returns when he’s healthy. What is also likely is that he just can’t handle tough managing. We’ve all had tough and outright horrible managers/coaches/bosses/teachers/etc and 99.999% of the time not while working the job of our dreams. We all feel like quitting sometimes but usually we don’t and/or can’t. We stick it through, use the negativity as inspiration to work harder and silence those we feel have wronged us. If this is just another public tantrum as this generation of players are prone to display then he can either return, be humble, be great and make us forget this hiccup ever happened. Or he can “retire” and become a footnote for analysts. Again, all the empathy if he needs help for emotional/mental battles. Otherwise… throw dirt in it bro.
It’s all mental. Let him be himself.
They were. He needs to be coachable.
He's back!
What has happened to Yermin is absolutely not LaRussas fault. People need to stop trying to find a scapegoat because he was a fun story
Sounds like he quitting on himself.
He came back.
@@coachcarter8238 lol yea supposedly
it pisses me off. i don’t care what anyone says but he was the reason for the white sox early season success, he was killing it EVERYONE loved him, then once he went into a slump everyone started shitting on him acting like he didn’t help us win so many games early in the season. he has one of the best bats on the team, he makes contact with almost every pitch and has crazy power. i just hate the fact that he’s disrespected so much in this league, he deserves so much more
Slump is slump
He look like mike ford from his tenure in yankees organization
Without any actual evidence, I'm not sure we can definitely say Larussa is responsible. But it presents an interesting discussion. I am not sure he will actually retire, rather he might sign a minor league deal with another team. I don't think we'll ever know all the details, but the ones we get won't come until later years to come. Probably when both Larussa and Mercedes are for sure retired.
Fire La Russa
Yerminator forever
I feel terrible for the yerminator.
P.S. the stupid unwritten rule shouldn't even exist
But they do
Not a fan of La Russa but bottom line is La Russa isn't the one swinging the bat. That incident happened 2 months ago; he hit his dinger, he got plunkted, La Russa said what he said and it's over now. Yermin's in a slump, it happens to a lot of players and no doubt he's been in a slump at least once before during his 9 years in the minors. It could also be that the book has been written on him and pitchers may have found out he has a problem with certain pitches. It happens. Anyway, he's not the first player to go into a slump and certainly won't be the last. Hopefully he'll take a deep breath and get back into the batter's Box and find his swing again.
Baseball seems to care about unwritten rules more than actual rules. Here's an idea: don't be so bad you need position players to pitch!
How long have you been watching baseball? These unwritten rules have been in place forever, and before both you and I were born.
@@coachcarter8238 I'm 40... So 35 years. These imaginary rules all silly, we don't try if we too far ahead to see of the other guys can come back . we don't swing 0-3 because we hate getting easy hits on fastballs down the middle. And we certainly don't hit home runs off pitchers who are not actually pitchers. Every time Willy comes out to pitch the Twins should be fine 50k
Someone should tell him he shouldn’t listen to 80 year old drunks.
I wish the players would have told Tony you have to be sent down until you can control your drinking.
Tony won 3 World Series, and is a Hall of Famer. Do you know the game better than he does?
@@coachcarter8238 That fantastic. But if your a continuous drunk and have been had multiple DUI's. Should even be allowed to be manage and mentor these young players. We should all be lucky he has not killed someone. If he killed someone. What would you say then? He a 3 time champion and should be given a break.
Was he bound by contract and can he retire out of it and return a free agent? Just wondering if he's utilizing some loophole...
Guys he was a 28 year old rookie. Blaming Tony for this behavior is stupid. Teams figured him out and he knows he can't adjust
Yeah, I am not a super fan of this youtuber. Honestly, I get his video recommended alot but he doesnt do his research and alot of his videos are clickbaits.
how are they clickbait? And what research don’t I do?
"Don't swing 3-0 when ur leading by double digits!!"
... An unspoken rule as useless as "don't bunt in a no-hitter"
Fuck the Unspoken Rule. Just petition the League to make new rules. If feelings are hurt so much, ur own manager is gonna berate u for clean play, if it's SO GODDAMNED important to you ... just petition the League. Leave the rest of Pro Baseball alone.
He was already slumping before he hit that 3-0 hr against the Twins.
No he was not lmao
2 weeks slumping does not make a season, every player slumps even the best.
One guy replies he wasn't slumping and the other says 2 weeks slumping does not make a season. 2 weeks not hitting well is the definition of a slump. He hadn't hit a HR in nearly a month. In retrospect, he was smack dab in the middle of a slump that ended with him in AAA. He's 27 and never cracked MLB roster. There's a reason why.
@@np1000 he was not slumping before the 3-0 swing is what I was saying. It was pretty obvious
@@maco7723 He was hitting. 243 for the month of May down from 400 for April. After that Twins game it kept going downhill and was obvious he was now pressing. Before when he had 2 strikes he cut down his swing and big leg kick. Seems like the lime light got to him. He started wearing massive gold chains and kept swinging for the moon even with 2 strikes. That's not what got him to the big leagues. He was I the middle of a downward spiral. Im a Sox fan and watch just about every pitch. Just admit your wrong and go about your day.
This is so weird I hate that larussa did that. There has not been any official announcement as of last night to the white Sox so I hope this isn’t true
Has nothing to do with la russa. Yermin was struggling terribly BEFORE the home run. BEFORE. Idk why people are looking for someone to blame for this. He got himself sent down. And of course with Eloy and Robert rehabbing currently, yermin knows there’s no longer a spot for him.
Mercedes was batting .271 for the season when sent down. That's much higher than the 2021 MLB average. Yes, his hitting was dropping, but at a slow rate for his final weeks. Yermin's last 3 games - 10 AB, 3 H, 3 RBI, 2 R, 2 BB, 0 SO. I'm a 66 year old White Sox fan, I'm old school, but LaRussa is ancient school. Reinsdorf and LaRussa are senile buddies, they have no business still being involved in MLB.
LARUSSA WRECKED ANOTHER MERCEDES
Coming from a St. Louis fan, I couldn’t believe Larussa got another manager position 🤨
I'm a White Sox fan and was pretty pissed about it as we could have Hahn (even though I was not happy with the cheating he allowed). Also TLR was horrible for us to in a few games in the first 2 months. But since he hasn't really done much to ruin anymore games and since the whole Mercedes 3-0 count ordeal, he now has all the players following him which is key for any ball club. I think the Sox could put any manager in that dugout and they will have huge success, but only a few can get them over the hump. I really hope TLR trends more towards the small ball approach, even more so than what he already has.
Larussa not the one making him swing at sliders 6 inches off the plate. Theres a reason he's a 28 year old career minor leaguer.
@@sarahwolfe1154 we would gladly love to have Mercedes. Even with Molina.
Well Aj Hinch got one too and is showing great results with the Tigers.
Astros fan
@@sarahwolfe1154 Its certainly part of it. Yermin doesn't seem to have a strong mental game and hitting is extremely mental. The dude finally made it to the bigs and is mashing. Then his manager publicly pisses on him twice and suddenly he can't hit. Sure, Larissa isn't swinging the bat but he certainly did not help. Good managers know their players and do their best to get the most out of them. He was more worried about how things looked than about his player and team's success. Its seems like following silly "unwritten rules" is more important to Larissa than anything else.
He unretired literally 5 hours later lol 😂