As a Sox fan it’s horrible the Sox are never good and when they were good last year I was so excited I thought they would have a long streak of playoff appearances. But this year is not looking promising we are extremely inconsistent and I don’t even know how are winning some of these games. They aren’t even fun to watch anymore
Added context: that Giolito incident isn't isolated. Tony has a reputation now of leaving pitchers out there to die, either because they're gassed or because they're getting rocked. When he DOES finally make a call to the pen, he's consistently calling on the wrong people in the wrong situations. The Sox spent a considerable amount on bullpen talent this offseason, but the biggest arms (Hendriks and Graveman) have been consistently left on the bench in high-leverage situations. Tony will call on Hendriks up 5 runs in the 9th inning, but bring in an AAAA arm in the 8th inning during a tied ballgame. When confronted about it, he's gone on about "preserving arms for later in the season," despite these decisions costing the Sox close game after close game. Newsflash, Tony. .500 teams don't need arms for the postseason. And that's not even getting started on what kind of lineups we've been trotting out. Consistently batting guys in bad spots, over-fetishizing lefty/righty matchups, refusing to use the same lineup two days in a row (because god forbid a struggling team have any slight hint of consistency to latch onto), the list goes on and on. The dude's head is just not cut out for today's game. So adding that on top of everything pointed out in this video, it's no surprise that we're ready for a change.
Like how a lefty was brought in to face Giancarlo Stanton and 2 right handed batters after him, went from 7-7 to 14-7 Yankees all with 2 outs in the 8th back in mid May. Stanton cracked a 2 run RBI single, Donaldson blasted one as the very next batter.
You said it best. The Yankees are a great example of a consistent lineup day after day. Boone doesn't rest his guys like this old bozo La Russa does. These guys play 2 hours of baseball daily which is much less work than the majority of people who work 8-12 hours.
@@llee8825 exactly, you mostly see the same lineup everyday with the odd adjustment for an off day, (aside from the odd huh? lineup, even then they usually come through, somehow) and Boone has been giving pitchers shorter leashes and hasn’t been shy about going to the bullpen fast if need be. If he needs an arm in a high leverage situation, he’s on the phone and Holmes or one of the high leverage guys is throwing. Like when Chappy walked the bases loaded, After the 2nd walk Boone was on the phone and King was getting ready in a hurry.
@@llee8825 the majority of players are expensive athletes and their average day starts 2 hours or more before the average 3 hour game starts. When was the last time you saw a game that was over in only 2 hours. I doubt that you’re old enough to have ever seen one. I’m 77 and haven’t seen one in over 35 years. The Yanks most likely beat the Sox because they have a payroll of 84 million more than the White Sox. If the game you refer to was this year, the Yanks payroll for their 26 man lineup on opening day was $248 Million. It’s the second highest in the MLB behind only the Dodgers. The White Sox was $195 million. The manager doesn’t control the team payroll, the owner and his front office does. You might think of blaming instead them of LaRussa.
@@majestyk3337 oh really? So the current one we have now is any better? Inflation sky rocketing worse than ever before, more COVID deaths and hospitalizations under Biden than Trump, crime sky rocketing, War in Europe in a country where the Bidens have corrupt ties too, go figure huh? But at least no more mean tweets huh? Biden is deliberately infringing upon the 2A, which last I saw, deliberately says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. I swear you really are stupid huh? Just as long as Trump is gone, you don't care who's in office destroying this country, it's still better than one of rhe greatest Presidents in US history huh? You're a pathetic joke. People lile you have ruined everything that was good. You should be ashamed. We had no war, cheap gas, a booming economy even thru the pandemic, but that wasn't good enough? Americans should be ashamed to allow the pedophile and rhe other corrupt liars in office to stay there. You think Harris is good? She does nothing but lie about herself im every way. She's the worst VP since Biden lmao. Pelosi? Worth hundreds of millions by having the stock market literally in her back pocket. Liberals, Democrats, Leftists. Every time you people win, you ruin this country, every single time.
I lost all respect for LaRussa when he got his first of two DUI's, claiming "I only had a few glasses of wine," instead of owning up to it and admitting that he made a bad mistake. He was passed out at the wheel in the fucking road when the cops got him
Tony is incompetent, Giardi and Madden were fired mid season, as a Sox fan I am praying to the baseball gods that Tony is next. I would take anyone over this clown.
That’d be funny to see Maddon wearing the black after coaching the Cubs to their first championship in a century. I think the murder rate in Chicago might increase, but not by gangs, by ruthless baseball fans divided by their respective territories!
@@Sal-we5ck not always . He called The starting pitcher Garcia " sh*t . And Frank Thomas lazy .AND HE WAS RIGHT. He had little respect for designated hitters because he had to do everything
@@tim12chang - He’s already managing the Astros I think, plus no matter how many times his teams go to the playoffs they eventually lose. Look at the 2002 World Series - game six. They had it in the bag but Bonds missed an easy fly ball, because he was so bulky from the juice (got what he deserved.) After that the Bonds curse follows Dusty everywhere.
I don’t disagree, but we also have to be honest that the training staff has failed this team and talent. These dudes haven’t been healthy for more than a month since this new group got here
Yep, they are always injured...we always hear "wait til they are healthy" but they aren't ever healthy, TA is out, Eloy is out, Yas is out, Burger is out, Crochette is out etc etc
If the Sox don’t do nothing with this squad it’s over for them and tbh they might only have till next year this has been a wasteful years and players prime are running out
Yea of course you know more than him. I mean forget the fact that he's been involved with pro baseball longer than your dad has been alive. Nope he's old and he has to go. Wow. Are you sure that Tony's the one who's clueless?
@@Shinobi33 yeah i’m pretty sure the guy who intentionally walked someone with 2 strikes is the definition of clueless. it doesn’t matter what they’ve accomplished prior in their career. that was a completely brain dead move.
LaRussa looked like a genius with the Cardinals in the 2011 World Series compared to the opposing manager- Ranger's Ron Washington who was foolishly out-matched in every managerial move. But I think you are right. He should've stayed retired, he would still be remembered as one of the smartest managers ever lived.
I respect la Russa for his footprint in baseball history but he’s completely out of touch with baseball today. When he threw his own player under the bus, it was time for him to go
Tony made the mistake of a lot of sports figures, he didn’t know when to walk away. The game, and the guys playing it have both changed and Tony is still living in the past.
Coming from a Sox fan for 45 years, I never felt so excited for a team in a very long time. This guy is like the person who shows up at a great party, no one wants there, and partakes in thinking he's better then everyone else. His motives, his actions, his stupidity is outdated, and plain wrong. (Cueto pitching in the 4th?) This team has potential to be a massive dynasty. But with him running it, its a sub .500 at best. ***COUGH COUGH AJ PIERZYNSKI*** ahem sorry...phlegm. Call him Jerry....Im pretty sure he will answer....
Speaking of the Civil War, soldiers would play baseball in camp when there wasn't anything going on. One particular game, Federal soldiers were mid game when a small group of Confederate troops attacked. The center fielder was shot and killed but the other 2 outfielders and everyone else were able to escape and get to their guns and a small battle began. The Union infantry were soon able to drive the rebels back without heavy loss. The soldier who witnessed this fight would later write about it and say, "we lost our center fielder, and the rebels stole the only baseball in Lawrence, Texas." True story folks.
@@cyrus_2188 Ken Burns' "Baseball" documentary episode 1 or 2. Can't recall which at the moment. But, highly recommend watching the entire series, its amazing
I never understood why the White Sox hired him. I also never understood why Larussa wanted the job. He's in his mid 70's, 10 years removed from managing and already in the HOF. It just never made sense all around.
For La Russa to stand up there in a Press Conference and have the audacity to act shocked that a reporter is questioning him for walking a hitter while he has 2 strikes on him is absolutely coward like. The man has always thought he is the smartest man in baseball and how dare anyone question him. Get rid of him before this season is a write off.
Big White Sox fan here. I was unhappy they fired Renteria, really unhappy they didn’t hire Hinch, and really REALLY unhappy about the LaRussa hiring. I do not believe an 80-year-old man can relate to a young talented team. Get rid of him and hire McEwing.
Same with coaches. Look no further outside of Chicago than the Bears of the 80s. Ditka’s personality apparently grew to be so overbearing, the Bears couldn’t sustain themselves anymore.
He seems to be so numbers driven it's insane. That's the only reason you walk someone on a 1-2 count. You look at a number and saw he was better with 2 strikes than 1? Either that or he came running up to the dugout and saw him pitching to him and quickly made the signal to walk him. I doubt that highly though. Been tough to watch as a fan of another team.
This is the Future- La Russa was loaded up and wheeled over to the old folks home for heart tests. A Southside celebration should be scheduled prior to the next Twins game.
*As a hardcore white sox fan, TLR needs to go. But Jerry Reinsdorf (White Sox/Bulls Owner) is so tight with TLR, he won't fire him. Also won't fire him because he fired TLR back in 1986 which came back to haunt him*
As a Southside fan I was excited when LaRussa was brought on, but after a year and a half I regret that he ever came to manage the White Sox. Get him out of there and bring in someone who can evolve with the team!
The white sox just need a good manager. Tony no longer is that anymore. Even maybe hire a former white sox player to manage, as far as someone who has the desire and the drive to manage, like aj pierzinski.
I respect La Russa for what he's done. He's in the Hall of Fame for a reason. He's one of the best managers ever. You can't take away what he's done. That all being said, it's a very different game nowadays. These players just don't find anything relatable with a guy who's nearing the age of 80. I think it's better off if the Chi Sox pursued someone else. This is 2022 not 1992.
Well than that's their fault isn't it? I'm so sick of this modern leftist concept that old people in society have no value. Baseball is still baseball. And LaRussa is an expert on Baseball. So if the players can't get anything out of that then it ain't Tony's fault.
@@Shinobi33 I get where you’re coming from, but you can’t entirely blame the players. Both sides are at fault. La Russa is a legend and he knows the game very well. But the players are the ones playing at the end of the day. If they can’t comprehend/follow La Russia’s strategy, than shame on them. But you got a whole roster of ball players against one man. One man is gonna take the fault unfortunately, not the players. Believe me, I respect and admire La Russa all the way. But not everything is meant to be.
@@ryantouhey1997 the players don't have a problem with his strategy they have problem with him. Just like the video shows. So many young players today are whiny spoiled brats who can't handle displine.
@@Shinobi33 bringing politics into something for no reason huh. There’s a reason why most old people are retired, and it’s because most of them can’t work anymore, they should live there lives comfortably after that. La Russa is so old school it hurts, and on top of that he’s egotistical, had multiple DUIs, and not a very nice person. But I guess the right love old men yelling at a player that can probably coach better than he can.
LaRussa is still living the glory days of 2000 to 2012 when he ruled St. Louis. So of course he’s gonna try to keep those days going by no adjusting to the new school way of thinking where fun includes showboating and “let the kids play.” I’m with the crowd: FIRE TONY!!
I remember back in his "prime" as a manager, almost every game that had the cards the announcer would once maybe twice a game say that tony had a law degree and was a lawyer. As if apparently getting a law degree was like becoming a chemical engineer in difficulty.
3 WS wins 6 appearances, manager of the year in both leagues, 2800 wins and prime is in quotation marks, as if to say... Prime what prime, this loser never even had a prime... Ok buddy.
@@bugsyproductions3140 I'm sure Spanky has myriad accomplishments that dwarf completing law school and winning 3 WS. That's why he's able to talk down about what we would consider great achievements so freely.
Listen dude, I went to like 20 games last summer, every single time they announced the starting lineup, I boo-ed Tony La Russa at his position in the beginning of the lineup.
I wouldn't say fans hate Tony LaRussaReinsdorf; they just don't like the way he runs the team, not to mention the fact he's a personal favorite of Jerry Reinsdorf.
Your last statement is spot on. He and all of our generation have had our day; the new generation of players need younger managers. The game is not the same.
That's just it the game itself is the same. Baseball hasn't changed that much since Tony last retired. The only thing that's different is the attitudes and morals of these players. So sad when allowing bat flips and showing off comes into play to if fans like a manager nowadays.
@@Shinobi33 I'm asking you this honest question, why is it ok for pitchers to celebrate a strike out, but not ok for batters to do the same when hitting a home run? I've never understood it.
I was an A's fan when LaRussa managed. I didn't think that much of him then. I did think he was a good fit for the Cardinals. But I was glad when he left Oakland.
@@zcorpalpha2462 Yup. Larussa preached to his players, relax. You're better. Just keep winning 2 out of 3 and you're a 650 team. Don't worry about losing. And they were and they did. That works great in the regular season but not in the playoffs. Result? Lost 2 out of 3 WS. I could have managed those Teams to the playoffs. 3 consecutive rookie of the years. Henderson, Canseco, McGwire, Lansford, Stewart and Eckersley as your core. Add Murphy, Henderson, Steinbach, Weiss, Moore, and Welch. Seriously good teams. Getting to the playoffs was inevitabke. Winning was something else entirely. I personally, was not an admirer of Tony Larussa. Larussa was a bad playoff manager. There was no urgency. He rode massive talent to the playoffs, then couldn't guide them through.
It was a real head scratcher when the team on the south side of Chicago fired Renteria and hired a manager who hadn’t been in the dugout in years and was clearly not up to the task. He’s got a team that should be running away with their division playing sub .500 ball. Lol!
Cardinals fan here. Loved LaRussa when he was with them. Classic, legendary days from ‘96 to ‘11. Three pennants and two WS titles in that span. But he is pretty old now. Probably time to hang it up.
As a sox fan and ticket holder i dont hate la russa. Im not disappointed at all with him because this is exactly what i expected. This is all on reinsdorf. Stop chanting “fire tony”, and start chanting “🖕🏽you jerry”. Or both in sequence.
Reinsdorf and Rick Hahn ( probably Kenny Williams) are the biggest problems with this team not getting better. the talent evaluation and poor trades and free agent acquisitions pretty much prove this. LaRussa is just the icing on the cake of incompetence...
@@watsonroadster3707 i dont completely agree with rick hahn. I personally think he’s done the best he can besides the james shields for tatis jr deal. LOL However besides the past, going forward they sure as hell arent going to attract big free agents after the sox took giolito to arbitration for 200k.
I'm a Cubs fan and I expected the White Sox to be a great team starting last season and this season. On paper, the Sox have a Great starting Rotation, Good Bullpen, and Good offense. The rotation has been carrying this team the first 3 months of this season, bullpen has been unpredictable, and offense has been inconsistant. Granted injuries have hurt the sox, but they should still be a better team than what they have been.
The Angels at least wanna win at least their ownership spends money... stupidly but they do it. The Sox don't spend very often, they don't develop well, and they make idiotic hiring choices for management and when they run into good management they handcuff them financially. I'm a lifelong Sox fan and this team almost never does anything right. Thank God for 05 but good lord I've never seen a more incompetent franchise and they share a city with the Bears
A lot of fans in SF would disagree. Though usually popular with the players he was and still is terrible at managing the pitching game. If my team were thinking of hiring either of these guys, I don’t know which evil I would choose.
He could have totally deflected this if he just admitted he thought it was 2-1, not 1-2. Sticking to his guns only made it worse. It sure looks like he's lost the team. Too bad because this is a good group. Reinsdorf on a huge guilt trip for firing him the first time.
Tony La Russa is an old man who should be WATCHING the games from his couch at home, not COACHING them in the dugout... What kind of an asshole reprimands a player for hitting a home run...? The player shouldn't have to tank his RBI just to show a little humility by abiding an unwritten rule...
Yes, I totally agree. And I blame La Russa for breaking Mercedes' confidence because his numbers immediately plummeted afterwards. The poor guy got thrown under the bus by his own coach and it was embarrassing for him.
I remember once Jose Abreu got in the helmet last year by a Guardians pitcher and the first thing that Tony La Russa did was attack Roberto Perez the catcher instead of checking on Abreu to see if he was doing alright! That’s very absurd and that’s a terrible look for a coach especially an MLB coach and professional who’s been managing a long time!
You had one of the youngest clubs with the new generation mentality of playing baseball and you bring in a guy that is 3 generations behind. Even if you don't like the new generation of baseball and think that larusa is good. How could putting two such different opposing views on the same team be expected to lead to a great team?
That’s a statistical anomaly based on a small sample size. If you look at his career average in that count it’s a lot lower just like almost every big league hitter.
I grew up in Chicago and went to HS within a mile of Comiskey Park during the years after La Russa was the manager of the Sox. He was a legend on the South Side. Now he is a pariah. I don’t care about new vs old school. He’s just bad at his job now. Fire him immediately.
as a dodger fan, dave roberts has made some questionable postseason pitching decisions (*AHEM* kershaw), but he is a damn good manager and on a tier list i would put him in S all the way.
had to scroll way too far to see a mention of his DUI. The TLR/White Sox reunion should have ended then and there... "Hall of famer baseball person" lmao
Hi, White Sox fan here. Tony La Russa sucks. I generally thought on Sunday he was trying to get fired. It felt like that episode of South Park with Mr. Garrison trying to get fired to he could sue the school. He's done some rough things. He yelled at a catcher because he believed he intentionally signaled the pitcher to hit Jose Abreu, but he obviously didn't and the catcher was generally concerned for Abreu. He generally convinced that on Sunday he was make Dylan Cease, a starter, close the game. I could go on and on but I'd be here all day. The Angels fired Maddon after a 12 day loss streak, so let's fire La Russa. We've lost plenty of games with him this season already. I'd hire an old player like Pierzynski. So my final opinion is, the White Sox need to part ways with Tony La Russa, permanently.
Look, Tony has had everything go wrong this season. It can happen to anyone. But what he did to Yermin Mercedes last year was unforgivable. He lost the player’s respect and their chemistry. Yermin was the hottest hitter in the league for two months and was back in the farm system three weeks after he hit The 40 mph pitch. If the team still had chemistry they can do without Yermin, but they haven’t been the same since. Add the oddball calls, the fact nothing is working and lackluster play and the only answer is to fire LaRussa. The change should be made soon as there is still time to turn this season around.
I've been a Sox fan since 1964. I haven't been too happy with LaRussa but I have to give him a pass because I have never seen a Sox team so injured. Injuries have hit this team incredibly hard. I'm surprised they are a game under .500 today and have beat 3 of the best pitchers this past week. Once the majority of the injured players are back to form then if the Sox continue to be a.500 team then I would call for LaRussa to be fired. I didn't understand the hiring of LaRussa especially since he has been out of the game for so long. We still have a long season so hopefully the bats will heat up with the warm weather. The very first pack of Topps Baseball Cards I ever bought was in 1964 and remember pulling a LaRussa card in his Kansas City A's uniform. The man is old in a young man's game. I do like the fact that the Sox are stealing bases again. They now need to hit some HRs again but that will come when the injured players come back.
I liked the video. Good commentary, editing. 1)Tonys clearly held then back. Play calling, and just being that out of touch older grandpa figure. Esp bad on a young team. 2)locker room has seemed off after that HR with the game out of reach. Bad move by Tony. Clearly lost the team. 3)Tony no longer inspires, nor plays a style of ball current to todays game. Helps explain the under achieving.
The move to hire LaRussa was a curious one when it happened. All LaRussa has shown is how out of touch he is with today's game. His decision in key situations have been head scratching. The recent one to intentionally walk Trea Turner with two strikes is a perfect example of how out of touch LaRussa is with today's game. You have a pitcher one strike away from retiring a batter only to reset everything. Turner hits .197 with a 1-2 count, Muncy .133 vs left handed pitching its negligible to walk Turner.
Tony’s comments on the intentional walk made him sound like a guy that just found out about advanced statistics but doesn’t quite know how to apply them yet.
Thats a lazy narrative based on his age to be fair. Tony was one of the first managers to use bullpens as they are in modern baseball as well as implementing platoons etc. He and pitching coach Dave Duncan would have binders full of breakdowns on opposing pitchers and hitters before laptops and ipads ever existed. Whether he can harness the talent in chicago is up for debate, but his understanding of analytics and a modern approach are not
Bb is still instituting rules to offset how bad TLR ruined the game with his micro-managing, constantly changing pitchers style. Let's not forget that he also ushered in the steroid era with Canseco and McGwire in Oakland and the 70 HR season in Stl with McGwire. Im from Stl and still live there but I've never been a fan and he's done plenty of bad to offset all his winning.
No, Yermin incident was enough to fire him if I was the owner. After the incident, Yermin started to slow down, getting less ab, and send down to triple A, and then announced retirement. Every fanbase across the leagues was rooting for Yermin’s Cinderella story and old man La Russa criticized him for hitting a hr against a positional player on the mound. If the Twins really wanted a chance to win don’t put a position player on the mound and blame the other team for taking advantage, and as a manager you shouldn’t be “holding on to an unwritten rule” and scolding your rookie, crushing their confidence, causing him to retire. The clip also missed La Russa not understanding the challenge rule which he and Torre written together against Brewers. Get him out of the league.
@@20459972 funny since then the sox have been the worst in mlb with bases loaded, ive noticed they dont swing on 3-0 pitches, he killed one of their best weapons for old school mlb
One peculiar move like that one in the Dodgers series doesn't suddenly make any Manager unfit. Shoot, Max Muncy has been hitting terrible this season, it was not a bad idea, it just didn't work this time.
I didn't like him much when he managed the cardinals. I think he got a lot of wins because he always had good teams. His abilities didn't have much to do with it
We all know this is Ozzie’s team - let garret crochet get healthy, keep this set of guys mostly, and bring in ozzie. 2023-24 WS on the south side again
Baseball writers fairly universally agree that the team likes LaRussa in the clubhouse. Even Anderson. They don't want a new Manager. They know that once players come back from injuries, they will make a run for it into post-season with LaRussa there. One peculiar move like that one in the Dodgers series doesn't suddenly make any Manager unfit. Shoot, Max Muncy has been hitting terrible this season, it was not a bad idea, it just didn't work this time.
There comes a point where members of the older generations need to hang up their hat and let a new younger sheriff run the town (using an old West town analogy) Baseball is losing the younger generations and we need new younger GMs to allow the new players to be themselves. Players like Othani or Tatis Jr and Juan Soto get people excited about baseball again but are immediately shut down by the Tony La Russa's old ways of thinking. Time for him to move on.
As a long time Sox fan I can tell you Tony isn’t meant to be in the game no more . Someone wise once said “ you can’t expect to have the same mentality and results at a certain age … once you can’t think or do the things the same way it’s time to move on . It made no sense that the Sox didn’t interview any but TLR . The team isn’t playing with that fun and thrilling energy they had with Rentería . TLR is literally dragging the team down and Jerry has too much pride to let him go.
As a long time Sox fan this was supposed to be our year. LaRussa is horrible. I haven't been able to enjoy a game all year. His lineups are jokes, he doesn't know when to sub in a reliever. Seriously Garcia at lead off?
Yeah. La Russa has managed 3 teams to win the the World Series. Unless your name is Joe McCarthy, Casey Stengel, Connie Mack, Walter Alston, Joe Torre, Sparky Anderson, Bruce Bochy, Miller Huggins or Tom McGraw (none of whom are managing a baseball team right now)...you are worse at managing Baseball Teams than Tony La Russa. Last year, he coached the White Sox to a 93-69 Record. WTF, are the Sox complaining about?
A manager whose opinion and beliefs from a bygone era affected a rising star so badly he retired for a few days (and cost the team his lack of production) is not something you’d want for a team with young core players.
Agree with you. I totally blame La Russa for destroying Mercedes' confidence. And I bet no players on this team really wants to play for him after watching it up close. They know La Russa would turn on them in a heartbeat. I would ask to be traded to another team.
DUI not withstanding, I lost all respect when he ruined Yermin Mercedes last year. It's one thing to chew someone out privately, but publicly, any middle level manager, much less the boss, knows to do that privately. Position player throwing meatballs to a guy trying to make a place for himself and family (i.e. money), who could resist? Don't care what the score is. Mercedes carried the team almost single handed through the injuries early last season. I have been a baseball and White Sox fan since '59 and love this game and the Sox. Tony lost at least 6 games last year through dumb choices and don't get me started on this year. I'm ready for it to be said the Sox are the only team to fire a HOF manager twice.
I think the problems the Sox are having this year go far beyond Tony La Russa. He definitely makes some head-scratching decisions, like I'm just as confused as everyone else why he insists on putting guys like Danny Mendick, Leury Garcia, & Josh Harrison in the leadoff spot, but he does feel like a bit of a scapegoat for how this season is going. The Sox are just flat out playing like shit. Pollock, Moncada, Robert, Abreu, Grandal, & Harrison are all putting up career lows in OPS so far. Tim Anderson & Jake Burger have combined to be one of the most error-prone left sides of the infield in all of baseball. It's way too often where they find a way to shoot themselves in the foot whether it be bad defense, baserunning, hitting, etc.
As someone who's a fan of the other Sox team and isn't super clear on this situation it sounds a lot like our team with Bobby Valentine. The "Old Guard", if you will, just doesn't get how to handle a team in this day and age. It's a shame, but, it's true.
How do you feel about Tony La Russa?
As a Sox fan it’s horrible the Sox are never good and when they were good last year I was so excited I thought they would have a long streak of playoff appearances. But this year is not looking promising we are extremely inconsistent and I don’t even know how are winning some of these games. They aren’t even fun to watch anymore
He was good back in the day. But baseball has changed. He’s past his prime and should honestly just retire.
@@BOB_983 obviously
He has clearly forgotten more about baseball than any of us will ever know.
He's still young enough to have a 3rd career as a politician
Was at the Sox game today and “Fire Tony” chants broke out yet again.
Added context: that Giolito incident isn't isolated. Tony has a reputation now of leaving pitchers out there to die, either because they're gassed or because they're getting rocked. When he DOES finally make a call to the pen, he's consistently calling on the wrong people in the wrong situations. The Sox spent a considerable amount on bullpen talent this offseason, but the biggest arms (Hendriks and Graveman) have been consistently left on the bench in high-leverage situations. Tony will call on Hendriks up 5 runs in the 9th inning, but bring in an AAAA arm in the 8th inning during a tied ballgame. When confronted about it, he's gone on about "preserving arms for later in the season," despite these decisions costing the Sox close game after close game.
Newsflash, Tony. .500 teams don't need arms for the postseason.
And that's not even getting started on what kind of lineups we've been trotting out. Consistently batting guys in bad spots, over-fetishizing lefty/righty matchups, refusing to use the same lineup two days in a row (because god forbid a struggling team have any slight hint of consistency to latch onto), the list goes on and on. The dude's head is just not cut out for today's game.
So adding that on top of everything pointed out in this video, it's no surprise that we're ready for a change.
Like how a lefty was brought in to face Giancarlo Stanton and 2 right handed batters after him, went from 7-7 to 14-7 Yankees all with 2 outs in the 8th back in mid May. Stanton cracked a 2 run RBI single, Donaldson blasted one as the very next batter.
You said it best. The Yankees are a great example of a consistent lineup day after day. Boone doesn't rest his guys like this old bozo La Russa does. These guys play 2 hours of baseball daily which is much less work than the majority of people who work 8-12 hours.
@@llee8825 exactly, you mostly see the same lineup everyday with the odd adjustment for an off day, (aside from the odd huh? lineup, even then they usually come through, somehow) and Boone has been giving pitchers shorter leashes and hasn’t been shy about going to the bullpen fast if need be. If he needs an arm in a high leverage situation, he’s on the phone and Holmes or one of the high leverage guys is throwing. Like when Chappy walked the bases loaded, After the 2nd walk Boone was on the phone and King was getting ready in a hurry.
Jeez... who even knew one could know that much about baseball 🤣
@@llee8825 the majority of players are expensive athletes and their average day starts 2 hours or more before the average 3 hour game starts. When was the last time you saw a game that was over in only 2 hours. I doubt that you’re old enough to have ever seen one. I’m 77 and haven’t seen one in over 35 years. The Yanks most likely beat the Sox because they have a payroll of 84 million more than the White Sox. If the game you refer to was this year, the Yanks payroll for their 26 man lineup on opening day was $248 Million. It’s the second highest in the MLB behind only the Dodgers. The White Sox was $195 million. The manager doesn’t control the team payroll, the owner and his front office does. You might think of blaming instead them of LaRussa.
He’s terrible in the sense that he throws his own players under the bus and defends the other team that isn’t his! That’s absurd!
Let Mercedes go. That is OVER.
Sounds like a certain ex president.
@@jimcarter4425 it’s over, but it happened and it was fucking stupid. He deserves to get shit for that forever
WOW!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't want to play for anyone capable of doing that.
@@majestyk3337 oh really? So the current one we have now is any better? Inflation sky rocketing worse than ever before, more COVID deaths and hospitalizations under Biden than Trump, crime sky rocketing, War in Europe in a country where the Bidens have corrupt ties too, go figure huh? But at least no more mean tweets huh? Biden is deliberately infringing upon the 2A, which last I saw, deliberately says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. I swear you really are stupid huh? Just as long as Trump is gone, you don't care who's in office destroying this country, it's still better than one of rhe greatest Presidents in US history huh? You're a pathetic joke. People lile you have ruined everything that was good. You should be ashamed. We had no war, cheap gas, a booming economy even thru the pandemic, but that wasn't good enough? Americans should be ashamed to allow the pedophile and rhe other corrupt liars in office to stay there. You think Harris is good? She does nothing but lie about herself im every way. She's the worst VP since Biden lmao. Pelosi? Worth hundreds of millions by having the stock market literally in her back pocket. Liberals, Democrats, Leftists. Every time you people win, you ruin this country, every single time.
Somebody that played during the civil war 🤣🤣🤣
I lost all respect for LaRussa when he got his first of two DUI's, claiming "I only had a few glasses of wine," instead of owning up to it and admitting that he made a bad mistake. He was passed out at the wheel in the fucking road when the cops got him
Who me???! I only had tee martoonis!!
I wonder if those were mega pints.
Tony is incompetent, Giardi and Madden were fired mid season, as a Sox fan I am praying to the baseball gods that Tony is next. I would take anyone over this clown.
That’d be funny to see Maddon wearing the black after coaching the Cubs to their first championship in a century. I think the murder rate in Chicago might increase, but not by gangs, by ruthless baseball fans divided by their respective territories!
bring back Ozzie! he defends his players!
Please try your best to hire Dusty Baker.
@@Sal-we5ck not always . He called The starting pitcher Garcia " sh*t . And Frank Thomas lazy .AND HE WAS RIGHT. He had little respect for designated hitters because he had to do everything
@@tim12chang - He’s already managing the Astros I think, plus no matter how many times his teams go to the playoffs they eventually lose. Look at the 2002 World Series - game six. They had it in the bag but Bonds missed an easy fly ball, because he was so bulky from the juice (got what he deserved.) After that the Bonds curse follows Dusty everywhere.
La Russa would have been a great hire 20 years ago. This will set the white Sox back because this is wasted years on some pretty good players.
I don’t disagree, but we also have to be honest that the training staff has failed this team and talent. These dudes haven’t been healthy for more than a month since this new group got here
I just got your logo as a tshirt! Also fuck Larissa! Hire Perzynski
Yep, they are always injured...we always hear "wait til they are healthy" but they aren't ever healthy, TA is out, Eloy is out, Yas is out, Burger is out, Crochette is out etc etc
Tony Steroids was never 'good'. He just turned a blinder eye.
If the Sox don’t do nothing with this squad it’s over for them and tbh they might only have till next year this has been a wasteful years and players prime are running out
There's old school, and then there's clueless. La Russa is completely clueless.
Buck Showalter is a good example of old school. Having a very nice year with the Mets, good for him.
Yea of course you know more than him. I mean forget the fact that he's been involved with pro baseball longer than your dad has been alive. Nope he's old and he has to go. Wow. Are you sure that Tony's the one who's clueless?
@@Shinobi33 yeah i’m pretty sure the guy who intentionally walked someone with 2 strikes is the definition of clueless. it doesn’t matter what they’ve accomplished prior in their career. that was a completely brain dead move.
@@AniSage one bad move doesn't determine a season's success. Come on buddy. You're reaching.
@@Shinobi33 you're so pissed lol
LaRussa looked like a genius with the Cardinals in the 2011 World Series compared to the opposing manager- Ranger's Ron Washington who was foolishly out-matched in every managerial move. But I think you are right. He should've stayed retired, he would still be remembered as one of the smartest managers ever lived.
I respect la Russa for his footprint in baseball history but he’s completely out of touch with baseball today. When he threw his own player under the bus, it was time for him to go
LaRussa also just had a DUI arrest when he got hired, wouldn't see most people in other businesses getting hired if was known they just got an arrest.
White Sox Fans: "LET'S FIRE TONY LA RUSSA!"
David Ross To La Russa: "First time?"
Tony made the mistake of a lot of sports figures, he didn’t know when to walk away. The game, and the guys playing it have both changed and Tony is still living in the past.
That “you have a locker, I have an office” quote pissed me tf off, you wouldn’t have that office without those players bailing him out last season.
Sure he would. Jerry won’t fire him. He’s untouchable.
I'm 52 yrs old back in the 70's and 80's Tony was not liked as the Sox manager back then. A lot of us weren't happy when he came back.
Coming from a Sox fan for 45 years, I never felt so excited for a team in a very long time. This guy is like the person who shows up at a great party, no one wants there, and partakes in thinking he's better then everyone else. His motives, his actions, his stupidity is outdated, and plain wrong. (Cueto pitching in the 4th?) This team has potential to be a massive dynasty. But with him running it, its a sub .500 at best. ***COUGH COUGH AJ PIERZYNSKI*** ahem sorry...phlegm. Call him Jerry....Im pretty sure he will answer....
Well stated!
Speaking of the Civil War, soldiers would play baseball in camp when there wasn't anything going on. One particular game, Federal soldiers were mid game when a small group of Confederate troops attacked. The center fielder was shot and killed but the other 2 outfielders and everyone else were able to escape and get to their guns and a small battle began. The Union infantry were soon able to drive the rebels back without heavy loss. The soldier who witnessed this fight would later write about it and say, "we lost our center fielder, and the rebels stole the only baseball in Lawrence, Texas." True story folks.
Tony must’ve told this story
Or he was on the field at least.
@@cyrus_2188 Ken Burns' "Baseball" documentary episode 1 or 2. Can't recall which at the moment. But, highly recommend watching the entire series, its amazing
Was Tony playing second base or managing?
I never understood why the White Sox hired him. I also never understood why Larussa wanted the job. He's in his mid 70's, 10 years removed from managing and already in the HOF. It just never made sense all around.
i think the moment he didnt back mercades he lost his teams respect.
Imagine being a HOF manager, going back to work with a team and then getting fired because you've proven that you belong in the past.
He won’t get fired. Jerry is his drinking buddy
That's not to mention Mercedes was having an amazing season before that incident with Tony. He wasn't the same player afterwards.
For La Russa to stand up there in a Press Conference and have the audacity to act shocked that a reporter is questioning him for walking a hitter while he has 2 strikes on him is absolutely coward like. The man has always thought he is the smartest man in baseball and how dare anyone question him. Get rid of him before this season is a write off.
Don't forget LaRussa was the one who thought it was a good idea to have Lance Lynn as the designated runner for extra innings last season.
Jason Dyrkacz you’re thinking of Liam Hendriks but I get what you’re saying
I couldn't believe Tony actually did that. That was your "WTF were you thinking?" moment. If anything, that should have put Tony on a short leash.
That pitcher smirking while they’re chanting fire Tony lmfao
Big White Sox fan here. I was unhappy they fired Renteria, really unhappy they didn’t hire Hinch, and really REALLY unhappy about the LaRussa hiring. I do not believe an 80-year-old man can relate to a young talented team. Get rid of him and hire McEwing.
McEwing should be fired as well, he's been awful as the third base coach this year. He's ran them in to a ton of outs with his terrible sends.
Historically great managers losing touch with the game in their later years is not an isolated incident. Pride can really cloud judgement.
Same with coaches. Look no further outside of Chicago than the Bears of the 80s. Ditka’s personality apparently grew to be so overbearing, the Bears couldn’t sustain themselves anymore.
He seems to be so numbers driven it's insane. That's the only reason you walk someone on a 1-2 count. You look at a number and saw he was better with 2 strikes than 1? Either that or he came running up to the dugout and saw him pitching to him and quickly made the signal to walk him. I doubt that highly though. Been tough to watch as a fan of another team.
This is the Future- La Russa was loaded up and wheeled over to the old folks home for heart tests. A Southside celebration should be scheduled prior to the next Twins game.
La russa knows the unwritten rules better than the written rules it seems
Walking people with 2 strikes lmaooo
I defended la Russa last year as die hard sox fan. He sucks. Ruined our window. Painful.
Im a life long white sox fan and la russa is HORRIBLE I'm so freaking mad we didn't decide to hire Hinch
When old school becomes stale
When analytics were injected into the game since 2015.
*As a hardcore white sox fan, TLR needs to go. But Jerry Reinsdorf (White Sox/Bulls Owner) is so tight with TLR, he won't fire him. Also won't fire him because he fired TLR back in 1986 which came back to haunt him*
As a Southside fan I was excited when LaRussa was brought on, but after a year and a half I regret that he ever came to manage the White Sox. Get him out of there and bring in someone who can evolve with the team!
The white sox just need a good manager. Tony no longer is that anymore. Even maybe hire a former white sox player to manage, as far as someone who has the desire and the drive to manage, like aj pierzinski.
I respect La Russa for what he's done. He's in the Hall of Fame for a reason. He's one of the best managers ever. You can't take away what he's done. That all being said, it's a very different game nowadays. These players just don't find anything relatable with a guy who's nearing the age of 80. I think it's better off if the Chi Sox pursued someone else. This is 2022 not 1992.
Well than that's their fault isn't it? I'm so sick of this modern leftist concept that old people in society have no value. Baseball is still baseball. And LaRussa is an expert on Baseball. So if the players can't get anything out of that then it ain't Tony's fault.
@@Shinobi33 I get where you’re coming from, but you can’t entirely blame the players. Both sides are at fault. La Russa is a legend and he knows the game very well. But the players are the ones playing at the end of the day. If they can’t comprehend/follow La Russia’s strategy, than shame on them. But you got a whole roster of ball players against one man. One man is gonna take the fault unfortunately, not the players. Believe me, I respect and admire La Russa all the way. But not everything is meant to be.
@@ryantouhey1997 the players don't have a problem with his strategy they have problem with him. Just like the video shows. So many young players today are whiny spoiled brats who can't handle displine.
Joe Maddon?
@@Shinobi33 bringing politics into something for no reason huh. There’s a reason why most old people are retired, and it’s because most of them can’t work anymore, they should live there lives comfortably after that. La Russa is so old school it hurts, and on top of that he’s egotistical, had multiple DUIs, and not a very nice person. But I guess the right love old men yelling at a player that can probably coach better than he can.
Honestly old Tony LaRussa seemed less arrogant in his stints with Oakland and St Louis. I think HoF went to his head.
LaRussa is still living the glory days of 2000 to 2012 when he ruled St. Louis.
So of course he’s gonna try to keep those days going by no adjusting to the new school way of thinking where fun includes showboating and “let the kids play.”
I’m with the crowd: FIRE TONY!!
Done with the "old guard" of baseball. They're out of touch with the new game.
As a White Sox Fan, everything about this video is true.
I remember back in his "prime" as a manager, almost every game that had the cards the announcer would once maybe twice a game say that tony had a law degree and was a lawyer. As if apparently getting a law degree was like becoming a chemical engineer in difficulty.
3 WS wins 6 appearances, manager of the year in both leagues, 2800 wins and prime is in quotation marks, as if to say... Prime what prime, this loser never even had a prime...
Ok buddy.
@@martinlutherbling8346 40 years as a manger, with only 3 rings isn’t very impressive
@@spanky9676 how many have more than him?
@@martinlutherbling8346 he probably delivered all those injections himself. that's a highly juiced 2800 wins
@@bugsyproductions3140 I'm sure Spanky has myriad accomplishments that dwarf completing law school and winning 3 WS. That's why he's able to talk down about what we would consider great achievements so freely.
Bring back Rick “John McCain Impersonator” Renteria
Listen dude, I went to like 20 games last summer, every single time they announced the starting lineup, I boo-ed Tony La Russa at his position in the beginning of the lineup.
I wouldn't say fans hate Tony LaRussaReinsdorf; they just don't like the way he runs the team, not to mention the fact he's a personal favorite of Jerry Reinsdorf.
Your last statement is spot on. He and all of our generation have had our day; the new generation of players need younger managers. The game is not the same.
Baseball is dying, just like nascar, nobody care about it.
And yet one of the oldest managers ever just won the World Series.
That's just it the game itself is the same. Baseball hasn't changed that much since Tony last retired. The only thing that's different is the attitudes and morals of these players. So sad when allowing bat flips and showing off comes into play to if fans like a manager nowadays.
@@jameskm03 exactly. Baseball is baseball. If you don't see that and are obsessed with just wanting the game to look cool then you're not a real fan.
@@Shinobi33 I'm asking you this honest question, why is it ok for pitchers to celebrate a strike out, but not ok for batters to do the same when hitting a home run? I've never understood it.
I was an A's fan when LaRussa managed. I didn't think that much of him then. I did think he was a good fit for the Cardinals. But I was glad when he left Oakland.
1989 Oakland Athletics
World Series Champion
American League Champion
American League Western Division Champion
Didn’t think much of him ⁉️
@@zcorpalpha2462 Yup. Larussa preached to his players, relax. You're better. Just keep winning 2 out of 3 and you're a 650 team. Don't worry about losing. And they were and they did. That works great in the regular season but not in the playoffs. Result? Lost 2 out of 3 WS.
I could have managed those Teams to the playoffs. 3 consecutive rookie of the years. Henderson, Canseco, McGwire, Lansford, Stewart and Eckersley as your core. Add Murphy, Henderson, Steinbach, Weiss, Moore, and Welch. Seriously good teams. Getting to the playoffs was inevitabke. Winning was something else entirely. I personally, was not an admirer of Tony Larussa.
Larussa was a bad playoff manager. There was no urgency. He rode massive talent to the playoffs, then couldn't guide them through.
It was a real head scratcher when the team on the south side of Chicago fired Renteria and hired a manager who hadn’t been in the dugout in years and was clearly not up to the task. He’s got a team that should be running away with their division playing sub .500 ball. Lol!
Cardinals fan here. Loved LaRussa when he was with them. Classic, legendary days from ‘96 to ‘11. Three pennants and two WS titles in that span. But he is pretty old now. Probably time to hang it up.
Dusty Baker is winning, and in first place with the Astros. LaRussa is not the problem in Chicago, injuries is.
As a Sox fan I dont really like La Russa but to be fair this team is extremely soft
That first shot reminds me of the cat in the hat baseball bat meme lol
As a sox fan and ticket holder i dont hate la russa. Im not disappointed at all with him because this is exactly what i expected. This is all on reinsdorf. Stop chanting “fire tony”, and start chanting “🖕🏽you jerry”. Or both in sequence.
Reinsdorf and Rick Hahn ( probably Kenny Williams) are the biggest problems with this team not getting better. the talent evaluation and poor trades and free agent acquisitions pretty much prove this. LaRussa is just the icing on the cake of incompetence...
@@watsonroadster3707 i dont completely agree with rick hahn. I personally think he’s done the best he can besides the james shields for tatis jr deal. LOL However besides the past, going forward they sure as hell arent going to attract big free agents after the sox took giolito to arbitration for 200k.
I'm a Cubs fan and I expected the White Sox to be a great team starting last season and this season. On paper, the Sox have a Great starting Rotation, Good Bullpen, and Good offense. The rotation has been carrying this team the first 3 months of this season, bullpen has been unpredictable, and offense has been inconsistant. Granted injuries have hurt the sox, but they should still be a better team than what they have been.
Angels can fire Joe Madden then the White Sox can fire Tony La Russa
The Angels at least wanna win at least their ownership spends money... stupidly but they do it. The Sox don't spend very often, they don't develop well, and they make idiotic hiring choices for management and when they run into good management they handcuff them financially. I'm a lifelong Sox fan and this team almost never does anything right. Thank God for 05 but good lord I've never seen a more incompetent franchise and they share a city with the Bears
@@alexandervaldivia8232 I wonder if Reinsdorf and the McCaskey's share and compare notes???
I think La Russa is holding the white Sox back. I think this team plays way better without him
LaRussa is absolutely clueless. At least Dusty Baker still knows what he's doing (90% of the time)
A lot of fans in SF would disagree. Though usually popular with the players he was and still is terrible at managing the pitching game. If my team were thinking of hiring either of these guys, I don’t know which evil I would choose.
@@BRLaue I can understand that.
Bro has too many unwritten rules in his mind
Why do fans want Tony La Russa fired? He literally has the better record than Ross and the Cubs. We need to fire Ross. SMH
Breaking News: The Chicago White Sox have fired Tony La Russa and announced Don Zimmer's uncle will be his replacement.
I had no idea he was still coaching.
He could have totally deflected this if he just admitted he thought it was 2-1, not 1-2. Sticking to his guns only made it worse.
It sure looks like he's lost the team. Too bad because this is a good group. Reinsdorf on a huge guilt trip for firing him the first time.
he doesn’t backup his players, and won’t go along of what his players will do as to play the modern day of baseball
He's probably drunk. It sounds like he's managing games the same way that he drives
Tony La Russa is an old man who should be WATCHING the games from his couch at home, not COACHING them in the dugout... What kind of an asshole reprimands a player for hitting a home run...? The player shouldn't have to tank his RBI just to show a little humility by abiding an unwritten rule...
Yea that was a total joke. I was hoping Tatis would say something, but he fell in line. Fair enough.
Yes, I totally agree. And I blame La Russa for breaking Mercedes' confidence because his numbers immediately plummeted afterwards. The poor guy got thrown under the bus by his own coach and it was embarrassing for him.
I remember once Jose Abreu got in the helmet last year by a Guardians pitcher and the first thing that Tony La Russa did was attack Roberto Perez the catcher instead of checking on Abreu to see if he was doing alright! That’s very absurd and that’s a terrible look for a coach especially an MLB coach and professional who’s been managing a long time!
At 78 years old, he has either dementia or is purposely acting stupid.
You had one of the youngest clubs with the new generation mentality of playing baseball and you bring in a guy that is 3 generations behind. Even if you don't like the new generation of baseball and think that larusa is good. How could putting two such different opposing views on the same team be expected to lead to a great team?
i heard that trea turner has a plus .400 ba in that specific count which was also a reason for the intentional walk
That’s a statistical anomaly based on a small sample size. If you look at his career average in that count it’s a lot lower just like almost every big league hitter.
And his batting average isn't .1000 so there's also a chance he gets out
Screw your analytics
I think Tony LaRussa's hair dye has been seeping into his brain...
I grew up in Chicago and went to HS within a mile of Comiskey Park during the years after La Russa was the manager of the Sox. He was a legend on the South Side. Now he is a pariah. I don’t care about new vs old school. He’s just bad at his job now. Fire him immediately.
As an old White Sox fan I have to agree. LaRussa has to go!!!
as a dodger fan, dave roberts has made some questionable postseason pitching decisions (*AHEM* kershaw), but he is a damn good manager and on a tier list i would put him in S all the way.
Can't swing 3-0, but drinking and driving is OK.....
And don’t forget fishing and hunting is out.
had to scroll way too far to see a mention of his DUI. The TLR/White Sox reunion should have ended then and there... "Hall of famer baseball person" lmao
@@dmmonkey4 not only a DUI, but caught twice...
How are Buck Showalter, Bob Melvin, and Dusty Baker Doing? How young are they? How old was Brian Snitker when he won the world series?
Hi, White Sox fan here.
Tony La Russa sucks. I generally thought on Sunday he was trying to get fired. It felt like that episode of South Park with Mr. Garrison trying to get fired to he could sue the school. He's done some rough things. He yelled at a catcher because he believed he intentionally signaled the pitcher to hit Jose Abreu, but he obviously didn't and the catcher was generally concerned for Abreu. He generally convinced that on Sunday he was make Dylan Cease, a starter, close the game. I could go on and on but I'd be here all day.
The Angels fired Maddon after a 12 day loss streak, so let's fire La Russa. We've lost plenty of games with him this season already. I'd hire an old player like Pierzynski.
So my final opinion is, the White Sox need to part ways with Tony La Russa, permanently.
Chicago fans like to blame the managers, both Sox & Cubs - when it is the team that loses games and nothing changes from managerial changes!
Hinch should have been banned for life after the astros cheating scandal
My nigga, I'm with you on that. 100%
Look, Tony has had everything go wrong this season. It can happen to anyone. But what he did to Yermin Mercedes last year was unforgivable. He lost the player’s respect and their chemistry. Yermin was the hottest hitter in the league for two months and was back in the farm system three weeks after he hit The 40 mph pitch.
If the team still had chemistry they can do without Yermin, but they haven’t been the same since. Add the oddball calls, the fact nothing is working and lackluster play and the only answer is to fire LaRussa. The change should be made soon as there is still time to turn this season around.
I've been a Sox fan since 1964. I haven't been too happy with LaRussa but I have to give him a pass because I have never seen a Sox team so injured. Injuries have hit this team incredibly hard. I'm surprised they are a game under .500 today and have beat 3 of the best pitchers this past week. Once the majority of the injured players are back to form then if the Sox continue to be a.500 team then I would call for LaRussa to be fired. I didn't understand the hiring of LaRussa especially since he has been out of the game for so long. We still have a long season so hopefully the bats will heat up with the warm weather. The very first pack of Topps Baseball Cards I ever bought was in 1964 and remember pulling a LaRussa card in his Kansas City A's uniform. The man is old in a young man's game. I do like the fact that the Sox are stealing bases again. They now need to hit some HRs again but that will come when the injured players come back.
I liked the video. Good commentary, editing.
1)Tonys clearly held then back. Play calling, and just being that out of touch older grandpa figure. Esp bad on a young team.
2)locker room has seemed off after that HR with the game out of reach. Bad move by Tony. Clearly lost the team.
3)Tony no longer inspires, nor plays a style of ball current to todays game. Helps explain the under achieving.
The move to hire LaRussa was a curious one when it happened. All LaRussa has shown is how out of touch he is with today's game. His decision in key situations have been head scratching. The recent one to intentionally walk Trea Turner with two strikes is a perfect example of how out of touch LaRussa is with today's game. You have a pitcher one strike away from retiring a batter only to reset everything. Turner hits .197 with a 1-2 count, Muncy .133 vs left handed pitching its negligible to walk Turner.
Tony’s comments on the intentional walk made him sound like a guy that just found out about advanced statistics but doesn’t quite know how to apply them yet.
Thats a lazy narrative based on his age to be fair. Tony was one of the first managers to use bullpens as they are in modern baseball as well as implementing platoons etc. He and pitching coach Dave Duncan would have binders full of breakdowns on opposing pitchers and hitters before laptops and ipads ever existed. Whether he can harness the talent in chicago is up for debate, but his understanding of analytics and a modern approach are not
Bb is still instituting rules to offset how bad TLR ruined the game with his micro-managing, constantly changing pitchers style. Let's not forget that he also ushered in the steroid era with Canseco and McGwire in Oakland and the 70 HR season in Stl with McGwire. Im from Stl and still live there but I've never been a fan and he's done plenty of bad to offset all his winning.
Rick Renteria got screwed. Battled through the rebuilding years, became a winner, got fired.
Renteria also made ridiculous choices constantly he did not get screwed
Coming from a Guardians fan, just give him a chance. He’s took the team to a league victory and also got them to the playoffs again that second year.
*indians
No, Yermin incident was enough to fire him if I was the owner. After the incident, Yermin started to slow down, getting less ab, and send down to triple A, and then announced retirement. Every fanbase across the leagues was rooting for Yermin’s Cinderella story and old man La Russa criticized him for hitting a hr against a positional player on the mound. If the Twins really wanted a chance to win don’t put a position player on the mound and blame the other team for taking advantage, and as a manager you shouldn’t be “holding on to an unwritten rule” and scolding your rookie, crushing their confidence, causing him to retire. The clip also missed La Russa not understanding the challenge rule which he and Torre written together against Brewers. Get him out of the league.
@@nickr3441 always will be. Fuck the Guardians
I KNOW CUZ U WANT EZ WINS VS THE SOX
@@20459972 funny since then the sox have been the worst in mlb with bases loaded, ive noticed they dont swing on 3-0 pitches, he killed one of their best weapons for old school mlb
Walking Turner with a 1-2 count is the definition of "getting cute."
La Russa clearly loves thinking he is the smartest guy in uniform.
One peculiar move like that one in the Dodgers series doesn't suddenly make any Manager unfit. Shoot, Max Muncy has been hitting terrible this season, it was not a bad idea, it just didn't work this time.
I don't hate Tony. I wish for him a long enjoyable vacation ... starting today.
Tony La Russa is the Baseball version of Jon Gruden.
I didn't like him much when he managed the cardinals. I think he got a lot of wins because he always had good teams. His abilities didn't have much to do with it
Yup. He's not a good manager any more. If only the owner didn't feel guilty about firing him decades ago.
We all know this is Ozzie’s team - let garret crochet get healthy, keep this set of guys mostly, and bring in ozzie. 2023-24 WS on the south side again
Yes, this team needs Ozzie's fire and screaming to light them up. They are playing like they are 80 year old men.
You can tell the games just gotten soo far past him now
I was waiting for this upload. I knew you’d break down the entire situation. And La Russa is a terrible for fit for the White Sox/Team Cuba.
Baseball writers fairly universally agree that the team likes LaRussa in the clubhouse. Even Anderson. They don't want a new Manager. They know that once players come back from injuries, they will make a run for it into post-season with LaRussa there.
One peculiar move like that one in the Dodgers series doesn't suddenly make any Manager unfit. Shoot, Max Muncy has been hitting terrible this season, it was not a bad idea, it just didn't work this time.
There comes a point where members of the older generations need to hang up their hat and let a new younger sheriff run the town (using an old West town analogy) Baseball is losing the younger generations and we need new younger GMs to allow the new players to be themselves. Players like Othani or Tatis Jr and Juan Soto get people excited about baseball again but are immediately shut down by the Tony La Russa's old ways of thinking.
Time for him to move on.
As a long time Sox fan I can tell you Tony isn’t meant to be in the game no more . Someone wise once said “ you can’t expect to have the same mentality and results at a certain age … once you can’t think or do the things the same way it’s time to move on . It made no sense that the Sox didn’t interview any but TLR . The team isn’t playing with that fun and thrilling energy they had with Rentería . TLR is literally dragging the team down and Jerry has too much pride to let him go.
As a long time Sox fan this was supposed to be our year. LaRussa is horrible. I haven't been able to enjoy a game all year. His lineups are jokes, he doesn't know when to sub in a reliever. Seriously Garcia at lead off?
He’s way too old school in a very new game. He’s also completely clueless
Yeah. La Russa has managed 3 teams to win the the World Series. Unless your name is Joe McCarthy, Casey Stengel, Connie Mack, Walter Alston, Joe Torre, Sparky Anderson, Bruce Bochy, Miller Huggins or Tom McGraw (none of whom are managing a baseball team right now)...you are worse at managing Baseball Teams than Tony La Russa. Last year, he coached the White Sox to a 93-69 Record. WTF, are the Sox complaining about?
A manager whose opinion and beliefs from a bygone era affected a rising star so badly he retired for a few days (and cost the team his lack of production) is not something you’d want for a team with young core players.
Agree with you. I totally blame La Russa for destroying Mercedes' confidence. And I bet no players on this team really wants to play for him after watching it up close. They know La Russa would turn on them in a heartbeat. I would ask to be traded to another team.
DUI not withstanding, I lost all respect when he ruined Yermin Mercedes last year. It's one thing to chew someone out privately, but publicly, any middle level manager, much less the boss, knows to do that privately. Position player throwing meatballs to a guy trying to make a place for himself and family (i.e. money), who could resist? Don't care what the score is. Mercedes carried the team almost single handed through the injuries early last season. I have been a baseball and White Sox fan since '59 and love this game and the Sox. Tony lost at least 6 games last year through dumb choices and don't get me started on this year. I'm ready for it to be said the Sox are the only team to fire a HOF manager twice.
I think the problems the Sox are having this year go far beyond Tony La Russa. He definitely makes some head-scratching decisions, like I'm just as confused as everyone else why he insists on putting guys like Danny Mendick, Leury Garcia, & Josh Harrison in the leadoff spot, but he does feel like a bit of a scapegoat for how this season is going. The Sox are just flat out playing like shit. Pollock, Moncada, Robert, Abreu, Grandal, & Harrison are all putting up career lows in OPS so far. Tim Anderson & Jake Burger have combined to be one of the most error-prone left sides of the infield in all of baseball. It's way too often where they find a way to shoot themselves in the foot whether it be bad defense, baserunning, hitting, etc.
As someone who's a fan of the other Sox team and isn't super clear on this situation it sounds a lot like our team with Bobby Valentine. The "Old Guard", if you will, just doesn't get how to handle a team in this day and age. It's a shame, but, it's true.