Does Jordan Peterson Believe in God?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @shawnryanshow
Support the Shawn Ryan Show for $5 and get the chance to watch the shows AD FREE, with the exception of Shawn's personal reads, before they release!! Sign up here: / vigilanceelite
Please leave us a review on Apple/Spotify Podcasts:
Apple - podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Spotify - open.spotify.com/show/5eodRZd...
#PODCAST #GOD #JORDANPETERSON
Vigilance Elite/Shawn Ryan Links:
Website - www.vigilanceelite.com
Patreon - / vigilanceelite
TikTok - / shawnryanshow
Instagram - / shawnryan762
Thanks for watching everyone. You can watch the full episode with Jordan Peterson here ua-cam.com/video/oQpFHQRbqcw/v-deo.htmlsi=znqcv6ImO_FOV9T1 Additionally if you want to support the Shawn Ryan Show you can join the community. www.patreon.com/VigilanceElite
Great episode Shawn Ryan!!!! I mean all are great for sure, but this is very enlightening and deep. Also, very positive.
I was an Atheist and became a former Atheist via Scientific Experimentations.
Yes, real layered out and accurate experiments only a God species could trigger factual results in.
Example of one my experiments and I done it three times over 6 weeks.
Wrote down a movie, the name of an actor and a line the actor says in the movie.
I sat alone and just thought, "I have this written down and I am telling not one person what I am doing. if your species exists, you or one of you have three weeks to have me randomly arrive at a location where I will hear someone say the movie title, the actors name and the quote they say in the movie." Two and a half weeks later I am shopping in a grocery store and some people on the next aisle over start talking about movies. One says the movie title, the other says the actor and then say the line in the movie.
I think, Hmm, what a coincidence.
So, a few days alter I repeat it, only I write down a TV show from my youth years. I was born in 1966 and had a good selection to choose from. I sit and just think, "It is likely it was just a coincidence, but we will try another to see if we get the same results. You have two weeks this time." Two weeks later on the other side of town I am shopping again and as I am checking out, the people behind me start talking about TV shows and one says the name of the TV show and says the actor's name. The other says the line." I turn enough to see them, but they are much younger than I am. I am thinking that its odd foe their age to bring up that older TV show when they were just talking about current TV shows.
So, I write down another movie, actress name and the line she says. I think, "One week this time". A week later I am in a department store, but on the food aisle and a few shoppers near me (on the same aisle) start talking about the movie, one says the actresses' name and says the line. At this point I cannot claim a coincidence and I start to feel uncomfortable. So, I think, "This is creeping me out. I am going to take some time off from the experiments and let this sink in." Suddenly I remember hearing breaking glass and a second later I hear glass break. Then I remember seeing a stock guy picking up square white dishes from a split open blue and white box. I leave the food aisle and head for the kitchen aisle and as I turn the corner, there is the guy I remember seeing and he is picking up the square white dishes from the blue and white box that's split open on the floor.
I get nauseated and I instantly realize I was not the one initiating the experiments, but it was whomever was interested in me. I start thinking about some of the things over the last few months that got me to decide to the experiment to see if there was a God species. It all seemed scripted out like someone was programming the events, including the experiments. All I kept thinking about is how many times I mocked people for thinking there were Gods or a supreme God out there. I remember thinking the crazy person with the End of the Word sign on the street corner, possibly knew more than I did.
Now every time I post this, I get replies of people who call me a liar or a fake or a delusional person.
I honestly could care less as I was just as ignorant, and I cannot hate on them as I was in the same fantasy as they are.
This was decades ago and the tests or experiments or training has never stopped.
Another Coincidence:
Seeing almost every truck and trailer coming into the seaport one day with the same three numbers. I tell the relieving officers and they spread the numbers to everyone working on the port. I come back to work the next day, and everyone won the Lottery. All three numbers came in the same exact order. I do not pay the lottery, so they all laughed at me for being stupid. Later this one woman came to me and gave me $20 of her winnings as a thank you. None of my coworkers tipped me, none of the port workers tipped me, but the one who did, she was the one woman they all warned me to stay away from, because she as a floozy who slept around with the truckers to make extra money. The one they despised was more thoughtful than all of them.
Another Coincidence:
My wife and I get invited to go to a Sunday church service, but I am thinking of not going as I do not feel like doing research on religions that morning. (At this point I know there is a God species, I am just trying to narrow it down to a possible religion's God or Gods). My wife already has a shower and is half dressed, so I get a shower and toss on a half suit ad half relaxed pants. As we are getting on the interstate, there is a man opening the trunk of his car just aside the emergency lane in the grass. Instantly I know we need to take our jack and tire iron to him. I tell my wife and she agreed, so we got off, got back on and circled around to him. I got out the jack and tire iron and as I walk up to him, he asks, "Are you a Christian?" I say, "Something like that." and he says, "This car has no jack or tire iron, but it has a spare. Just as I realized I was in a sinch, you drive up and get out your jack and tire iron." I tell him he can have them, and we will get replacements and we leave.
Another Coincidence X 2:
Both of the last two major stock market crashes over the last 20 years, the same week as the crash I had my wife get the largest loan on her 401K that she was able to get. The same weeks as the crashes is when she got the deposits in our bank account. Both times her 401K grew at 9% instead of suffering great losses like everyone else.
I have had a constant flow of Coincidences for decades.
Some borderlinking miracle level and a few reached miracle levels.
I 100% know there is a God species out there, and I know what they are, and how they procreate.
Shawn, I hope you personally see and read this specific scripture and understand exactly what it means in your soul. It's all from God's devine revelation and understanding He gives to us and He saves us.. Jesus didn't come that we understand we do it all ourselves. It's by the help of The Holy Spirit not on human efforts alone.
The bible explains against Peterson's eloquent explaining.
1 Corinthians 2:1-16
[1] And when I came to you, brethren, I did not come with superiority of speech or of wisdom, proclaiming to you the testimony of God. [2] For I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and Him crucified. [3] I was with you in weakness and in fear and in much trembling, [4] and my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, [5] so that your faith would not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God. [6] Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; [7] but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory; [8] the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory; [9] but just as it is written, “Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, And which have not entered the heart of man, All that God has prepared for those who love Him.” [10] For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. [11] For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. [12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, [13] which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words. [14] But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. [15] But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. [16] For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.
@@ThomasAAnderson-se7je
@ShawnRyanClips You have numerous bots in the comments speaking about "investing" with one "woman" and then giving a WhatsApp number. It's a scam, please delete it so that some of your users don't fall victim to this shit. Thanks y'all.
I was homeless, got into drugs, went into prisons, then i got to know Jesus, He changed my life.. Now i make 22k weekly. have a home, a wife, a lovely daughter... A child of God. HALLELUJAH
My dear, please for the love of God can you shed light on how it happened??
It's Renee Marie Harrison doing, she's changed my life.
After I raised up to 325k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states 🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my daughter's surgery (Joey). Glory to God.shalom.
I do know Renee M. Harrison, I also have even become successful....
Absolutely! I've heard stories of people who started with little to no knowledge but made it out victoriously thanks to Renee Marie Harrison.
When I hated God He loved me
Same here 👍
It’s a good feeling ain’t it? 🙏
He knows you by your name ❤️
Amen. I hated him and turned my back on God 14 years ago. Around November, I found myself at an impasse. I was struggling with the belief that there was no God. I am now learning to be a fisher of men. God never left my side, and he placed people in my life to bring me to him.
The testimony is longer than that.
I'm a young man now.. but when I was a boy I went through some truly horrible experiences. Raped. Stabbed. My mother was insane and then died. My family was destroyed by it. I was roofied and raped again, took me years to figure that one out and at least I wasn't conscious for that one lol. I have been beaten. Lied to. Manipulated. Betrayed. I was pull away from God but his lessons and principles never left me even when my faith was weakest. Today I stand a proud Christain. I am stronger than I ever could have imagined and it was all because of Him. Satan and his minions tried.. surely they haven't stopped. But through God I am here and I will never let my faith wane again. Praise be.
Proud of your perseverance!
Alot of hurt, but here you are!!
I'll pray for you 🙏 the struggle makes you strong
Amen
I have been thought a lil bit of trauma your story inspired me god bless you I pray you live rich with peace and prosperity and happiness ❤
“To believe in God is to commit your life”
If only more “Christians” understood this.
this statement needs to be a daily reminder
That’s what it means … that’s his basic law.. if only people understood and had common sense..
Agreed. The Greek from which it's translated (pisteuo) is to entrust oneself to.
I was gonna say “commitment” is a bit of an understatement lol
@@christinpopculturePistis/Pisteuo means to “trust in” or “rely on.” “Entrust to” isn’t the best translation. Petersen has a very works-righteousness view on atonement. His faith seems to be in the atonement of individuals for restoration. Certainly it is works that save a man-but it’s the work of Christ alone.
No man can see into the heart of another, but a man can certainly use wise judgment. I do not discern biblical faith in Petersen. It does not appear that he “relies upon” the finished work of Christ to atone for sin.
I’ve been in the deepest part of the valley of death for the past year, I’m at the point now where it is the worst it’s ever been. My family is collapsing, I’m facing eviction, food is hard to come by. During all this time, God felt so far away. My eyes have become fully open in the midst of the face of death, God is ripping me from these shackles and awakening a new found faith in him. A while ago I asked God to break me and rebuild me into a better servant and a better man, it is only today that I realized he is currently answering that prayer.
Brother, once you are anchored upon the rock of faith, these troubles of life can be seen with their due relevance... we have both walked through our own valleys of the shadow of death, but God has been with us, and we will emerge from our struggles with an unbreakable strength in him. Your story really resonates with me, and I will pray for you.
Have faith, good will prevail.
The greatest relief you will find in your situation is that God is your provider. When you find your strength in God rather than yourself, then you truly become strong.
Amen Brother. I’ve been in the same boat for the past 3 years. One thing I’ve been wrestling with to learn is that committing your life to God is NOT the key to a better life on Earth. In many ways your life is going to get MUCH harder now that you’ve committed to becoming the enemy of the Enemy. Matthew 16:24 is no joke. Think about what Jesus was carrying his cross to when you read it.
I have walked a similar path in my life. God did shine his light on me and opened a new door for me to enter.
Stay faithful brother.
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried." - G.K. Chesterton
This might be the truest quote I have ever come by. Wow.
@@rubenopperman7621 read Chesterton's Orthodoxy pls
Jesus Christ, The Son of God, Savior, Christ, promises eternal life, he died for your sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved! Believe one time on Jesus Christ alone and you're always saved forever. Salvation can NEVER be lost!
Matthew 7:21 KJV:
21 Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven.
John 6:40 KJV:
40 And this is the WILL OF HIM that sent me, that everyone which seeth the son, and BELIEVETH ON HIM, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
This ignores the countless Saints who achieved Theosis.
@triggered8556 The line comes from Chesterton’s book, "What’s Wrong with the World," from Part I, Chapter 5, “The Unfinished Temple.” If you've never read Chesterton, it's a great place to start.
Yeshua literally challenged them saying (in the Gospel of John) :-
"You study the scriptures day and night and think that by them you possess life yet you refuse to come to ME"
!!!
Amen ❤
That verse appears to be speaking to the Jews, aka those who follow the Old Testament and modern day oral Torah for salvation
Now go read the kjb.
@@Johnrider1234the kjb is filled with error.
@@Johnrider1234 RSV is the best
I feel myself understanding the true meaning of Christianity everyday! I’m 53 and he’s right, it’s not just about believing. It’s about willing to go the distance all the way!
Amen
So the thief on the cross, WHO ONLY BELIEVED, didn't go to paradise with Jesus?
@@jelly7310 It's not really about that. I'm not qualified to talk about what happens or doesn't happen, but the biggest thing I've been learning is that it's about total commitment to god. And that's what he's saying in this video and it's true. It's about total commitment to jesus and god even if youre being tested over and over. The bible does support this.
@@jelly7310 Salvation and living a victorious Christian life are two different things which I'm sure you already know. This is something a lot of Christians confuse with one another.
Its about going the distance at the dead end sir!
I appreciate Jordan's insights on Jesus and faith; he often speaks with wisdom and depth. Yet, when he discusses the role of faith in Jesus, his perspective seems to lean more towards self-reliance, akin to 'have faith in yourself.' This differs fundamentally from a core Christian tenet: our own frailty and the necessity of leaning on Jesus for salvation. Christianity isn't about exerting extreme effort to dominate every aspect of our lives, nor is it a simple directive like 'clean your room.' Rather, it's an acknowledgment of our inability to 'clean our room' due to our fallen nature, coupled with the belief that Jesus grants us His sanctity. With His strength, day by day, He aids us in our struggles.
When Jesus declared, "I am the way," He wasn't advocating for a stoic, solitary confrontation with life's evils on our own terms. Although Jordan has a deep respect for the Bible, his interpretations often resemble self-help more than the gospel I recognize. He seems to overlook the essential message that our strength and redemption come not from within ourselves, but from Christ.
Exactly. On point. He has so much wisdom yet can’t see the simplicity of the gospel. We cannot save ourselves, period. We believe (trust) in Jesus for eternal life. We don’t believe in him as some sort of archetype so we can pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and save ourselves. Jordan doesn’t get it. His intelligence seems to be a hindrance to seeing his own need for a savior. I hope and pray he gets it someday!
Facts
As tedious and time consuming as it may be, it would be helpful if you go into this more. Because from what I have read, these core biblical tenets that you emphasised and Jordan's explanations could still be complementary rather than conflicting.
As fallen humans, there is still something that we must initially create even if that is simply a surrender to the Lord Christ. We are the ones that must do that - that is still something.
Then you obviously have not really READ the Bible - or you've read but not UNDERSTOOD: it’s not a novel nor a history book, it’s called the “Bible”. Romans 12:2: you are transformed by the renewing of your MIND. Not your faith, not your Bible, not your church's baptism practice, not by Christ! (shocker).
The new testament was written by Hellenic Greeks (ie. mythologists) and of Christ himself it is written that when he spoke, he spoke in parables and when he did not speak in parables he did not speak (Matthew 13:34). It’s all a parable! To show you that you are all gods (to quote Christ John 10:34), that you are ONE (not two) with God, that Christ is IN you (not outside), and is with you until the end of days (ie. not coming back), that the first two words of the Lord’s Prayer is “Our Father” (not “my friend Jesus’ father”). Jesus is the archetypical human being. But "Christians" will still hang onto their religious teachings and shame others for being nonbelievers, shame "sinners", "backsliders", etc, or blame "the Devil" for their own demise (ps. there's no Devil, read Isaiah 45:7). I think Jordan's interpretation is absolutely valid.
Loosen your grip on the Biblical dogma - it will kill you (2 Corinthians 3:6).
Jesus Christ, The Son of God, Savior, Christ, promises eternal life, he died for your sins, was buried, and rose again on the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved! Believe one time on Jesus Christ alone and you're always saved forever. Salvation can NEVER be lost!
Matthew 7:21 KJV:
21 Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven.
John 6:40 KJV:
40 And this is the WILL OF HIM that sent me, that everyone which seeth the son, and BELIEVETH ON HIM, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
I agree with Jordan on this, but I will add something. Often we fight against our own cowardice. Our own lack of gratitude. Our own selfishness. When you follow Christ, your biggest enemy is often yourself. At least that has been my experience. As I get older I realize that everyone who ends up in hell, makes an active choice to be there. Once you except Christ, you must go to war with your own darker nature. I fail at this more than I care to admit. So I will continue to fight. And pray for grace.
Well said brother... Im 100% on the same page as what your experiencing in our walk with Christ!! Once you become a Christian,, the inward battle is constant without ceasing because we know in our own heart that we could be doing so much more for the Lord, yet we dont and allow sin to overshadow our light🙏.. Stay strong man as im trying to be better everyday myself! God bless
Dude YES! It’s honestly so hard to TRULY believe and accept the gospel. By that I mean our place in it and the forgiveness.
man.........well said. I have been fighting my darker side for the last little while. i have been failing as well. if my name is in the lambs book of life its because of Jesus. my hope is in him and what he said. i can do nothing on my own except sin
This realization is where I'm at. I've never been let down by asking Christ to help. But I have let myself down too many times to count. I'm at a blockaid. Everything in my life is changing with great opportunities and manifestations coming alive, but inside its hard to feel deserving and worth of this greatness. I'm still living over trauma and my darker side always shoves me in that depression hole. I feel so weak sometimes with no one to turn to or relate to at the level I operate at because I'm the first of my friends and family to make it this far. I have Christ to thank, but I wish I had someone to coach me though handling the success I've achieved. Continuing to pray about it.
Bob, yes
All it takes to begin your walk as a Christian is this.... it's written in Romans 10:9 - If you declare with your mouth, JESUS is LORD, and BELIEVE in your HEART that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
THEN you begin your life anew, and you learn to rely on HIM for your walk each day.
Something else that is CRUCIAL to remember about this dilemma of Jordan declaring his faith, and as stated in Matthew 10:33 - But whoever DENIES me before men, I will also deny before my father who is in heaven.
I love listening to Jordan Peterson...he's one of the greatest minds of our times and a man who has stood in the gap for what is right on numerous occasions as well as endured terrible physical health issues. He is beloved by MANY, including me.
However, I have not once heard him say without hesitation that Jesus Christ IS his lord and savior and publicly declare this in a manner that is absolutely unambiguous. I am praying that this happens, and he is 100% on fire for Christ. Until then, he is still on the fence and not letting God speak these truths to his HEART as well as his head.
Keep praying for him. And remember… just because social media hasn’t shown you what you long to see doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. It’s obvious he believes in Jesus and at a minimum, that’s a strong start.
Maybe Jordan Peterson is also an excellent example of those who say they are Christians or can come across as Christian but are not.
If you declare with your mouth, JESUS is LORD, and BELIEVE in your HEART that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9
People just read that and gloss over it. It is so simple and yet many do not grasp the full weight of it.
@damagedgoods62 spot on analysis imo. We'll said.
Amen, this is what I say every time I hear him respond to people asking him these questions. He thinks everything literal about the Bible is merely philosophical and although he has things to teach he's also leading so many astray who would have otherwise come to Christ. Jesus is who he says he is. He is not only speaking in metaphor. He IS God in human flesh he WAS born of a virgin birth he truly was SINLESS and gave up the ghost on the cross by baring the sin of all humanity. He DID rise 3 days after and he is sitting at the right hand of the Father. Not metaphorically, literally. Jordan professes none of this and constantly dodges the questions and acts like he has the "true" meaning of the scriptures. So sad.
yup. spot on. he don't realize yet that we aren't capable of keeping the law as CHRIST did. there is no justification in the law. it is by faith that we are saved through grace.
2 Corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
7 months clean
VA recovery program
3rd time in 4 years
Really hard
Thank you both!
Keep it up bro!! Been sober for years. 3 months been drinking since my brother overdosed on fentynl. Tmmrw I quit drinking. Been stressful
Thank you for your service ❤
Stop dwelling on yourself and your issues. Get out in nature more. Maybe try the trip to Mexico with the hallucinogens therapy. I found them super useful before the Army. lol
I’m proud of you, I believe in you, you are a beautiful someone. You are worthy enough an abundant in Christ. 🙏🏼
This life can suck with or without God. I'd rather be on His loving side than with a liar who wants me and everything i love dead.
Good or bad it is just one life after all. What is that compared to an eternity.
For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever! 2 Corinthians 4:17
What liar?
@@Frodo1000000 satan
@@CrusaderZealot You cant enter eternity with ought always being in eternity.... If Sally committed a sin and didn't repent, she went to hell and was in hell since before she was born. I figured this massive flaw out in Christianity when I was 8 years old..... all you have to do is think for just a second what these words actually mean.
Great logic! Amen!
I love this man! He stands against the dumbassery of the current times.
Yeah , Because grovelling to a magic sky fairy doesn't make him a dumbass...
And hes not one bit afraid of anyones backtalking to his face. Also, Shawn Ryan has the best guests..✝️🇺🇸❤️
@@HULLGRAFFITI Check your grammar and caps.
To say the Bible is just a fairy tale makes you a dumbass.
@@HULLGRAFFITI You must be at parties!
@@hotbello0071 I do party all the time yes , I don't give myself some imaginary parent in the sky watching me 24/7 as an excuse not to let go and really enjoy life
It comes down to this. Amen, deny yourself and take up your Cross and walk. Peterson puts all the truth into perspective.
Believing In Jesus Christ... We do not war in the Flesh..We War in the Spirit. Being a Christian is having Faith and Stand even when all around you things are chaotic and you in the eye of the storm. Trust and Unwavering Faith.. This is what I learned bc I easily war in the Flesh.. especially in the world we live in at this point. Humbling
Amen, the flesh is weak but the spirit is willing! 🙏✝️🤍
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life
As long as you believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus right?
@@johnwheeler3071Well according to the Apostle Paul if Jesus did not rise from the dead then there is no Christianity. So yes! Also the historical manuscripts suggest He did.
@@jarroddavid8352 I agree but does Jordan Peterson believe Jesus rose from the dead?
@@johnwheeler3071 Good question. I’ve never heard him asked that question. I cringe when I hear him talk theology because he gets so much wrong it’s embarrassing. Unless he’s a false prophet trying to draw people away from Jesus Christ he should really consult with theologians before talking theology anymore.
@@jarroddavid8352why do you think that?
Excited for the whole show
One of my favorite episodes. When he asked you about going through SEAL training...priceless.
Sometimes we can over intellectualize Jesus/God. Me I’ve learned to not pretend to understand the ways of God the supreme being. Just do my best to obey and seek Him through pray and His word. Read your bible and get on your knees and pray.
yes Amen. the HOLY SPIRIT will guide us into all truth
In other words, put your head in the sand and question nothing. Yeah, ok.
Jordan is exactly right. It shows you just how far the western church, especially the evangelical church is away from the truth. The apostle Paul said that we are to deny ourselves and pick up our cross daily. The Western church is about for the most part, what do I get out of this deal. There is some merit there, but that is not the core of the gospel. Jordan is exactly right, Christ calls us to come and die so that we may live. There are few Christians living this out in my experience.
And the Bible says not to add to the word of God!
The issue is that Peterson doesn't understand the Gospel. It's about being set free from sin so that you can become a child of God, slave to righteousness, living sacrifice, and be in the presence of an actual divine Being. Peterson just psychologizes all the big stuff away and says pick up your cross because that's the path to what's most real. He's preaching works fundamentally. But the gospel is about forgiveness by grace through faith, not works.
@@dver89 what did Jesus mean when he said if you love me keep my commandments.
In this case the commandment was love one another as I have loved you.
Loving one another basically means doing whatever will benefit the well-being of others which can be really hard.
I think b4 that Christ said we must deny ourselves and carry our cross and fallow him. Basically meaning be selfless. Do you know how hard being selfless is? But the good aspect of it is that you stop worrying about life's trivial matters and care more about helping out others.
So in a way I think sir Peterson is right.
@@dver89 No he is still correct, but you are correct about most of what you have said as well. But it takes all of these things to really secure you in Christ Jesus. You do have to take up your cross daily and confront the things that are not of God head on. The Bible says what you say, and what he has said. So what if he understands it psychologically, he still is living it. He is spreading the Gospel, so do not cast stones at him, praise God that he is allowing God to use him as well to reach so many people.
@@EARLARTWORKSTHIS…. Brother you’re spot on. Evangelicals greatly struggle with this. I’m one of them!
I needed to hear this in this manner, Thanks for the video's.
A relationship with Christ is visible. My family and friends see the direct difference in who I was before I came to Christ. 5 years ago I was living in hotels drinking my life away. Still completely lost in the war I fought in. But now that I’ve accepted Christ I’m a sober married homeowner.
That's excellent brother! God desires to conform you into Christ's image, especially in your inner life.
@@joshuafriedrick amen
I greatly admire Dr. Peterson as he helped me immensely when I was in grad school trying to navigate the postmodern waters without understanding what postmodernism was or even that postmodernism was the water I was swimming in. It was his insights about postmodernism, Marxism, Christianity, and psychology that kick started my journey toward being on solid rock rather than being tossed around by the latest progressive idea. That said, it's hard for me to watch him get so defensive around the subject of God. I understand he doesn't want shallow Christians claiming him as one of their own. I wouldn't either. I agree with him that the modern conception of belief is shallow. But when I hear him only talking about the difficult aspects of the faith, I have to wonder if he knows anything of the joy and peace that is found in it. I wonder if he knows anything about what it is to receive the righteousness of God and to be called an adopted son. He seems to think that the archetypal pattern of the passion narrative is the point. It's not. The archetypal pattern of the passion is archetypal by necessity, but the point was that through the shed blood of Jesus, we could have peace with God and be in the new covenant of blood which marked the end of the sacrificial system and was the culmination of all the Jewish covenants. We can now receive the righteousness of God in exchange for our sin. We can enter into prayer with God and begin to hear His voice revealing the things that need to change, how we need to see things differently, what parts of us need to go that we didn't think were a big deal. I want this for Dr. Peterson. He seems to really believe that he understands these stories, but from where I sit, his understanding is weak. Which is a weird thing for me to think, given how much respect I have for him.
I wish when people question him about his beliefs they were more direct and clear. Something as simple as "do you believe that Christ, the Son of God, literally died on the cross and was resurrected in order to atone for mankind's sin?" I've listened to hundreds of hours of Dr. Peterson speaking, much of it about the Bible and Christianity, but he continues to evade a real answer by complaining how the question is phrased. In my experience, most atheists (i.e. Sam Harris) over estimate their intelligence and under estimate the intelligence of Christians. They look down at Christians who they deem as stupid or naive for believing in "fairy tales". I think that Dr. Peterson does something similar. He doesn't want to be put in a box by believers, so he obfuscates his beliefs and never answers the question. I think people like himself and Carl Jung, whom he quotes very often, tend to apply far too much psychology to theology and want to turn everything into an archetype or philosophical statement. In my opinion if you read the Bible with only that angle in mind, you miss out on this big picture. If you don't believe that the events described literally took place in space and time, then you can't believe the Bible is the literal living word of God, because that would mean there are lies in the word. At that point, you are totally relying on your own intellect to discern what is true and what is false. This always makes me think of the downfall of Satan, and what I believe is truly the original sin in the garden. Adam and Eve wanted to become like God, to gain His knowledge. Satan wanted Adam and Eve to be like him, fallen and cast out from the presence of God. We have to be careful not to obfuscate the word of God because there is a danger in making it too abstract and thinking we are more wise than the Holy Spirit.
If you’re triggered by this and clearly you are, this is what you’re missing as a Protestant who’s been told “by grace alone” since the jump… you actually have to do what you say or as the secular Doctor just reminded all of us -ironically- Christ will very likely say… “I never knew you”
Did you leave behind the grad program and move on to something more worthwhile?
Maybe you should read the Bible fully, yourself - not just prompted by your priest once a week:
Matthew 13:13:
"This is why I speak to them in parables: 'Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.'"
This verse highlights that Jesus intentionally used parables to convey spiritual truths, illustrating that the truths of the kingdom of God are not always straightforward or literal but require insight and reflection to understand. This can serve as a reflection on the nature of biblical interpretation and the deeper understanding required, which seems to be a central theme about Dr. Peterson's approach to the Bible and its teachings. How is that wrong?
And by the way, the Bible talks about how you are God's finest creature, perfectly made in his image. Forget about sin, you don't even understand the meaning of the word - please look up the Hebrew and Greek original words (hint: it doesn't mean that you have been a naughty boy!)
Jesus Christ, The Son of God, Savior, Christ, promises eternal life, he died for your sins, was buried, and rose again on the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved! Believe one time on Jesus Christ alone and you're always saved forever. Salvation can NEVER be lost!
Matthew 7:21 KJV:
Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven.
John 6:40 KJV:
40 And this is the WILL OF HIM that sent me, that everyone which seeth the son, and BELIEVETH ON HIM, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
When you talk to Doctor Peterson again, ask him if he believes in the Virgin birth, the crucifixion and Jesus raising from the dead. And please also ask him if he believes that Jesus died for our sins.
Does he believe that Jesus is the son of God? Does he believe Jesus was God in the flesh?
Simple questions anyone would ask…yet Shawn dropped the ball. I am trusting 100% in the Lord Jesus… not on anything I could ever do!
I don’t think he is there yet.
@@HardAssetsFTW yea it is, but isn't Shawn kind of new in the faith? i am 100% trusting in the LORD. i know i cant do it on my own
Right!
No he doesn’t. He may not be far off, but he believes the Bible is the most psychologically useful book. That’s it.
Jordan Peterson... thank God we have a few honest and outspoken people. For me, he is one of the very few reasons I have left to say that I am proud to be Canadian.
Make sure you vote for Pierre and tell all your friends and family the same 🇨🇦
The point of the bronze serpent is sin is on the cross and simple belief will take that away. Was also obvious foreshadowing of the messiah and the belief in Him takes away the sins of the world.
Yep this man is wrong on every point he brought up. He tries to make faith about works and that’s 100% WRONG
Belief is not lip service. Belief is characterized by the state of the heart manifested and lived out through the action of the body. James the pastor in Jerusalem literally wrote on this. “Not by faith alone” literally is in the holy scriptures.
@@Sanfu69 So what about all the other scripture that say “not of works, lest anyone should boast”? We need to carefully read the Bible in context.
@@s.a.6082 You view that in the broader context of Jesus's sermons to his disciples, John's epistles on what really constitutes righteousness and love, James's epistle addressing the issue directly, and Paul's own other epistles speaking against legalism to understand the difference.
The sick person has to abide with the doctor until they are healed. The sick person if he follows the doctors instructions is not healed because he deserves it which is legalism but because the behaviors from the obedience bring about a state of healing. It doesnt matter how legalistic to the instructions a sick person is if they continue to do the things that make them sick. This is like the pharisees who didnt even know God and followed the Law legalistically as to "deserve it" instead of from a genuine heart like Abraham did who really knew God and obeyed him out of love.
But how nonsense would it be to think you would be saved by the doctor while not believing you need to follow any of his instructions and you'll be somehow healed anyways while sewing to the destruction of the flesh. That could hardly be called believing in the doctor to begin with especially since the Dr himself gave specific instructions on this that are often skipped over for the more pleasant idea of just say you believe in the Dr and you'll be healed. Hopefully that's a good enough analogy. I mean no judgement. If necessary I can also just give you all the references from the sources I'm talking about so you can soberly approach this topic and not let people mislead you by using Paul out of context when he's speaking about something specific.
@@s.a.6082 ah in my thoughts I forgot to add an important context. Regarding the Pharisees their legalistic following of the law didn’t save them from their merciless, prideful, unrepentant heart. That is the point. They thought the letter made them righteous rather than the true faith that yields true obedience out of love because the law was for love and mercy.
Jordan Peterson has an amazing ability to talk in circles, but make you believe its a straight line.
Damn, that closing sequence 🤯
WOW! Great video!
Loved the dialogue.
“All human nature vigorously resists grace because grace changes us and the change is painful.” - Flannery O'Connor.
Jordan seems to be resisting so much. Clearly in his heart he believes (which is whats important) but he won't admit that Faith out loud. Just let go and let God already! Dont get me wrong, i think he and his content is top notch, and i look forward to seeing his recent interview on Pints With Aquinas.
Compare what Mr Peterson said to what the Bible says about true salvation
The gospel of John
Chapter 3 only 36 verses but explains
Being born again and how to become
Born again
Acts 4:12
Acts 16:30-31
Romans 10:9-13
1CORINTHIANS 15:1-3
Ephesians 2:8-9
1 John 5:13
Here are a few verses to get you started
Read chapter 10 of Hebrews over and over and over and over and over again. That makes you understand the Messiah’s sacrifice, what it means, how it pertains to you, and what you need to do after accepting that sacrifice for you sins.
The ASL sign for "believe" is a combination of "think" and "marriage".
This entire episode was awesome. Great job, thank you for sharing!
Thank you Shawn!
And thank you Dr. Jordan . P
for coming on the show!
I’ve been a sub of Shawn’s for a while now.. a few years. Actually before he ever even said the work Podcast lol. Love it, I told my girl he would be the new JRE but badass cuz he’s a Navy Seal and I was right. Let’s get it ! Also see you at the top!
We spend our life avoiding adversity when it can makes us better
Amen✝️
So true, belief is lived through commitment. Belief without commitment is dead.
Beautiful man! Ty both very much! ❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Amazing and interesting conversation. Be blessed guys 🙏🏻👍🏽
oh man... I Can't Wait for this one! My favorite interviewer + one of my favorite individuals
Belief is a commitment. And there it is.
Do you believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus?
@@johnwheeler3071 Yes, 100%.
@@paulsacramento5995 I'm pleased you do! Do you think Peterson believes in the physical resurrection of Jesus?
@@johnwheeler3071 I couldn't tell you nor would I dare to speak to anyone's faith other than my own. We can judge actions of course but the judging of a person's faith, I leave to Christ.
@@paulsacramento5995 You are jumping to conclusions. Who said anything about judging.
Christianity is all about the resurrection. Peterson has talked scripture for years and has never said he believes in the resurrection or not. Don't you think it's a fair question to ask him? Also there is no crime in asking you what you think about Peterson.
I had a dream recently where I was being tortured by demons but I wasn't afraid for I knew they were doing no harm to me yet I could feel the harm but at some point they said here its time for your crucifixion and I rejected it and they stopped and began saying well this is part of the game you are playing this is what comes with it. later in waking hours I found myself ashamed that I found myself not taking up that responsibility of my belief and feared the devil more than god by not following through with the unjust persecution and idea of dying there because I knew Christ had done that for all of us. I've always had a hard time dealing with being treated unfairly with grace but now I'm starting to understand that to follow Christ is to put yourself up against that same judgement by the world that he received. I love Jesus my Lord and Savior. You are so worthy and merciful and loving.
Saying something and living what you say are 2 different things.
“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven” Mathew 5 16
“you will know them by their fruits” Mathew 7:16
Jesus Christ, The Son of God, Savior, Christ, promises eternal life, he died for your sins, was buried, and rose again on the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved! Believe one time on Jesus Christ alone and you're always saved forever. Salvation can NEVER be lost!
Matthew 7:21 KJV:
21 Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven.
John 6:40 KJV:
40 And this is the WILL OF HIM that sent me, that everyone which seeth the son, and BELIEVETH ON HIM, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
This man has a brain 👌
He is Canadian though
Ooohhhh Ca NA DAHH !! Repent !
Does he?
Jesus Christ, The Son of God, Savior, Christ, promises eternal life, he died for your sins, was buried, and rose again on the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved! Believe only one time on Jesus Christ alone and you're always saved forever. Salvation can NEVER be lost!
Matthew 7:21 KJV:
21 Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven.
John 6:40 KJV:
40 And this is the WILL OF HIM that sent me, that everyone which seeth the son, and BELIEVETH ON HIM, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
This was so good. I needed to hear this.
I friggen love this. This illustrates the point of the Cross, and our picking it up daily, so so well. The longer I am a Christian, the more I see the Cross all around me, and its necessity.
you gotta go through Jesus to get to the father.
God bless you, Sean. Keep those great videos coming.
That didn’t sound like someone who understands the need to be born again, as Jesus instructed Nicodemus.
He sounded like Goggins or Jocko dressed in Bible psychology 201.
He might be a theist. But it didn’t sound like he understands and embraces the gospel. The Person & Work of Jesus as my/our/his Substitute.
He was only philosophizing about “Belief”. “Belief” doesn’t save us. Jesus does. There’s a biblical difference. A critical difference.
Paul and James and Jesus would all agree on that.
So… my two-cents.
Well said
Right but what does it mean to be born again? I think Jordan is actually explaining the bits that you leave out. To say “you must be born again” is vague and doesn’t actually get anyone closer to the truth.
Exactly. He doesn’t understand the gospel at all.
@@gussygrom8047will we ever truly understand everything perfectly? We could go on debating the philosophy a lifetime and never make a decision. For a crowd that talks about the cowardace of society, it's feels a bit hypocritical to constantly jump around the question and not "declare with your mouth" and make a decision. It's also not rocket science, just read the Bible, read Romans, it describes the Gospel and surrender pretty well, let alone the entire Bible.
@@joshlete Were born into a Christian family and have always been Christian?
Great clip! Right to the core
John 14:1-6
Shawn...I so appreciate you!
Dedication to live the Life of Jesus is a total commitment in life
Many of your family/friends,& enemies may mock you
God is both wrath and love at the same time
Wrath to unbelievers who mock God and total love for believers
But God Will discipline his own to make them better
Yes it is but we all sin the second we sin we are completely separated from Christ we can only do our best & when you sin which we do either in thought,deeds, act getting anger at someone is a sin NOBODY CAN BE SIN FREE which where confession comes in & also praying to the intercession of the Saint's many do not believe in it but it's the Bible he just said a curse word THAT IS A SIN if you go by t original scriptures which are very old I'm lucky enough 2 have 1 Hes speaking about the Old Testament which you cannot go by because Lord Jesus Christ came to change that original Covenant which he did 🙏 You can be the smartest man in the World & still not get what Christ said must be done to get to Our Almighty God Our Creator when Christ said Me & the father are 1 why because he did all that he was told unlike Adam I can go on & on but whether it's a Mortal sin or a minor sins the second we sin we have total separation from God /Christ so we pray to the Holy Mother also the love of my life Father Joseph & all the Saint's & CONFESSION EVEN IF THE PRIEST IS A SINNER THE SECOND HE IS IN THE CONFESSIONAL YOU HAVE TO KNOW & BELIEVE THAT CHRIST IS THERE & TELL ALL YOUR SINS.. I go every week bc we all sin every single day & it's also a forensic proven fact the Holy Eucharistic is human heart tissue after the Priest say the prayer they are 2 say in secret If you do not believe me look it up it's human heart tissue & they even tested the DNA of the heart it only had enough genocide types to have a signal parent which was Our Holy Mother Mary just thought I would give someone something to look up & see it's all true many people today do nit believe in praying to the Saint's or the rosary I'm a Traditional Catholic if you know what that means I would love to hear back from you❤May God Bless you ✝️ 🕊 💫
But why does God won't you to suffer, what's the purpose
@@user-xu4xj2cd2j God is not in charge of peoples sufferings its others or ourselves 2 suffer if we did not suffer & everything was happy everyday would you even call upon him ? Christ suffered the ultimate death he took upon himself of all our sins 💔 so when we as well as he did call to the father Christ for me & my father are 1 God the Creator is spirit who we never saw nobody has not Adam or Eve we would all be in paradise if Adam did not break God's Commitment not 2 eat from the tree of good & evil if they did surly you shall die they did not listen Eve gave in 1st which made Adam fall so God had 2 make a new Covenant which is the New Testament which explains it all I pray that helps you a little 🙏 Best suggestion is to read the New Testament & not from King James Version bc that has been written wrong find a Bible before the 2nd Vatican Council there you will absolutely find all your answers beloved ✝️ 🕊 💫
@@user-xu4xj2cd2jHe doesn't want us to suffer . Everyone has been given freewill to make choices but unfortunately other people's decisions effect us. We have all done stupid things that we wish we could take back. Or worse. But we have to live with the consequences. Evil people have killed innocent people. But those innocent people are with Christ. God can take the worst things in our lives and turn it into good. It can make you tougher but also compassionate.
@@speakfreesaveamericanow7734. Get out of here with that Catholic junk. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to pray to Saints. In fact, it says the exact opposite. Once you sin you are not completely cut off or separated from God. Once you become a Christian you are supposed to try and emulate Christ, but people still sin. You are trying to attain eternal life through soul power, and doing ritualistic mumbo-jumbo. Half of what you believe is non-biblical man-made nonsense. By the way, Mary is dead and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever so you’re wasting your time and breath paying to her. Jesus is the only way. You’re required to profess sins to Christ and you don’t have to go to a priest to do it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to pray to Mary or Saints. Your religion has convinced you of things that are not true.
Super excited about this episode. It’s gonna be super good
This realization is where I'm at. I've never been let down by asking Christ to help. But I have let myself down too many times to count. I'm at a blockaid. Everything in my life is changing with great opportunities and manifestations coming alive, but inside its hard to feel deserving and worth of this greatness. I'm still living over trauma and my darker side always shoves me in that depression hole. I feel so weak sometimes with no one to turn to or relate to at the level I operate at because I'm the first of my friends and family to make it this far. I have Christ to thank, but I wish I had someone to coach me though handling the success I've achieved. Continuing to pray about it.
I enjoyed this a lot.
The path to what is real is though the hardest things you can ever do. Yep, right there.
What I gathered from this is he reads between the lines with the lessons from the bible and see’s them as insight and personal challenges with how to go about living life, rather than the religious aspect
Actually, he is on point in the religious aspect, yet he doesn't know it. He uses science (physcology and sociology) and his own intellectual analysis to create a bridge between science and religion to explain to himself and those around him what scripture teaches. In the Catholic Faith, we believe these truths that he uncovered by reading the bible and being analytical.
Read between the lines? So it's down to individual interpretation. Hilarious. I thought the bible/s were clear in what they said.
Almost the best episode I've seen so far
Beautiful segment
We are saved by Grace, through Faith, not our works so that no man can boast.
Do you think we need to believe in the physical resurrection of Jesus?
@@johnwheeler3071absolutely. Apostle Paul says so.
This sounds like a Calvinist trying to read Ep 2:8
@@joshlete I agree. Do you think Peterson believes Jesus rose from the dead?
“Faith without works is dead” you can’t do one and not have the other… it’s a package deal
The Body Language with the _hand stuck to his face while talking_ is a tell-tale sign....
And not a positive one for the subject at hand. _(Pun intended)_
Don’t be deceived
😂😂 Good one
Also when he says "Do I believe that Christ is the way..." He says yes but he denies it with the head
I just finished watching the whole episode and am grateful for the opportunity to watch a two wise man having a conversation about all the topics they talked about. God bless all of us. ❤
Fantastic video. Thanks.
As much as Peterson may know the stories and concepts...its not about that. Its ALL about YOUR personal RELATIONSHIP with God.
It must be terrible hearing peterson saying you're wrong as are most people who profess to be Christians.
@@redmed10 it's really not... Petersons opinions on the matter of faith barely have any weight, he's at best a baby-christian
I wish i could have dinner with Dr. Peterson and explain to him how exegesis is done wich is consistent with God's character and the nature of Scripture. I have the feeling that he is missing certain meanings of Scripture due to allegorizing it... but that will never happen so i'll pray that the Lord will send someone along his way to do that :)
“If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it hated you. If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you." John 15:18-21
Mr Peterson makes an excellent point, "He doesnt reserve his wrath for sinners, He reserves his wrath for fence sitters." Many Christians need to hear that, ESPECIALLY MYSELF .
Amazing clip, going watch the whole interview now. I know God is real, just seeing how He has worked in Shawn's life since the beginning of this podcast has been amazing. God Bless you Shawn and your family. All Glory to God!
Eye opening, brilliant, thank you. Salute. Succeeding in Seal Training is overcoming adversity.
Man this is good!
He never answered the question
Great interview with two awesome men
Very very powerful, especially that last part.
I love this but I just can’t help but feel discomfort in how Jordon Peterson responds to this one degree. This being that he always seems to philosophize the Bible, God Word. That being Born Again is some kind of humanist natural thing that can be achieved. I do not know if he does believe this in completion, or if he is simply explaining it in reality and that makes it appear humanistic. Nonetheless, the lack of clarification makes it seems that it is humanistic and that we can essentially save ourselves by ourselves coming to an understanding of our truth OURSELVES. When the reality is we can’t. It takes the interaction and power of God to transform us to come to the realization of Christ and His Gospel!
Amen! He's not there yet. Too much self reliance and over intellectualising. Like Jonathan Pageau. Many words but no belief. We pray that they and others may be truly born again so that God can use them to influence many more! Praise God.
It's also possible that JP is not sharing his full personal belief here. He has said before that he is very aware of his influence and also aware of how people misinterpret what it means to be a Christian... that most people don't really understand what that means. So that's why he answers these questions from a philosophy and psychology angle... because that's his expertise. So he's answering as a psychologist, intellectually...and he is keeping his deeper personal beliefs private. He has shared a lot of himself with the world so far, but I think when it comes to this, he knows he doesn't owe the world a front row seat to his conversations with God.
I think most “believers” really know the words by heart but don’t practice it. There is a difference between knowing scripture versus living scripture. I find it very weird people judging so harsh what he says when he clearly is a much better example of what he believes than us. Do you really have committed 100% to truth? He clearly is with the truth because he converted thousands of people (me included).
@@MelbourneGroundWell, I don’t know who are we to judge when he is doing much more than us for the world and for faith than very few have done now in modern times. Have you had the impact on people he had? A lot of Christians have this smug believe that because they say they believe they will be saved. This man acts on it. Can’t people see it? You are committing the utmost sin, you are sitted and stand on the text, yet you don’t walk the walk. You have become the Pharisees and still you can’t see it. Not because you use his name you will be saved.
@@MTech07 I really love your points and I do believe them all. And it's actually your very point that is the point of 'criticism'. It seems as if he is making the Gospel a humanistic (Pharisaical) achievement, but not by means of works as we generally identify them, but works in the sense of coming to an understanding. That we ourselves have to think about these and achieve resurrection or heaven by coming to the right thought. And because it wasn't clear what he exactly was doing, because of his own desire to do so btw, it seems he is not rightly dividing the Word of truth. And that was what I was essentially saying. I really don't know/can't know his place, but I think his reclusiveness to outright listen to what the Word itself says about faith and Christ is problematic and ineffective. We also have to consider that he may very well be a wolf in sheep clothing, because we know that the devil hides as an angel of light. He may be getting so close to the truth but deceiving in that one point: reliance on Christ, faith in Christ alone. Because it's not our understanding or our abilities but simple faith. The Bible doesn't philosophically approach faith, but says to have it simply and knowing that God has the power alone to transform.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
1 Corinthians 2:5 ESV
So that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
Luke 18:17 ESV
"Truly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.”
Jordan is so deeply intellectual that he refuses to simply allow things such as religion or religious beliefs be something in which people can undermine his teachings or words by trying to label him as a religious man in a way to claim the only reason he has the thoughts he does or advice he gives is in any way based on some blind faith in a book.
But he also doesn't sit there and try to disregard anyone who does hold these beleifs and faith in these teachings. And the fact he understands the disservice that would make his words more scrutinized and undermined if he took one stance or another regarding this issue shows to me just how intelligent this man truly is.
One of the most impressive and important voices in the 21st century hands down 🙏💯
His take on Revelation was pure avoidance. Needs to get out of his brain and into the deeper meaning. Jordan could also respect others' contributions and stop interrupting. I love his insights, but he does the same thing with other brilliant people in other interviews.
It always amazes me how peterson gets people to twist their own logic so they think they agree with him. It's a skill.
His understanding is beyond the cookie cutter doctrine I have come this crossroads AMAZING EPISODE Sean ty
God answered my prayers and enabled me to get my cat Jake to the emergency vet in time. He kept my baby boy alive. He guided the medical staff with his wisdom. My cat was blessed with God's protecting hand. I am beyond thankful to have them both in my life.
I can’t wait to watch this. Jordan Peterson is amazing.
Belief or true faith requires repentance. Repentance literally means to turn. We turn away from our flesh daily and pick up our cross and follow Christ. The part of this that DJP misses is grace. If we could behave like Christ (sinless) then Christ wouldn’t have had to die. There would be no sin to atone for. This is where grace kicks in. We commit to Christ in our flesh knowing there will be failure in the light of grace. We are legally justified upon salvation, and we receive the Holy Spirit. Through sanctification our moral standing approaches our legal standing. Ultimately those two intersect at Christ’s return.
Amen
THAT was one of the most important interviews yet, Mr. Ryan.
I could see it struck home to you at your core.
Many of us viewers too, I assure you.
God Bless.
Absolutely great interview
Powerful Jordan Peterson! I am blessed with owning all his books. They inspired me to start participating n Bible studies and add an intellectual point of view in the conversation at the groups.
I thought the Canadian government revoked his psychologists' license and was prosecuting him for hate speech?
If you want to involve intellect more in Bible study, take up Hebrew and Greek. The Book was given to us for understanding and edification, not for personal interpretation.
Christ took the cross so we didn't have to. I think this characterization of us taking on Christ's duty could not be farther from what Isaiah and the author of Hebrews described.
"But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities. The chastisement of our peace was upon Him, and with His stripes we are healed." Isaiah 53
Exactly. He doesn’t get it, sadly.
"Christ took the Cross so we don't have too". That was eerily like penal substitution.
I think Peterson talks like faith as a mustard seed doesn't save. We aren't taking on Christ's duty. In becoming like Christ we should be able to joyously face hell for others. Like the disciples who were brutally tortured. Not involuntary punishment but voluntary sacrifice.
Thank you for this Video
I'm proud of you, SR. All we ever want to hear is, "well done" and you're well on your way. It never ends until you stand before the accuser and Arbiter with the Redeemer next to you claiming you as his own. Keep up the good fight.
Not sure if he understands or just talks like he understands
He has never said yet that he believes in the physical resurrection of Jesus.
Man I wish I had the chance to speak with Jordan and challenge him. The bible says you MUST confess with your mouth and believe in your heart. You must express it outwardly in word and deed. It's not a private religion but a public declaration and way of life unashamed
Yep Shawn dropped the ball in a major way! This man doesn’t stand for the Lord Jesus…he stands up for and promotes mans works and “psychology”
@@HardAssetsFTWpromotes psychology ? He promotes thinking you mean.
He literally said He knows it’s true.
You aren’t God, and aren’t the Judge, so please pump the brakes.
Christians aren’t called to force people to proclaim Jesus is Lord in their minds and hearts which seems to be exactly what you are doing right now.
Love it.. 100% on point.
It doesn’t sound like he believes the gospel or received Jesus as his Lord and Savior.
Explain
Exactly! An unsaved academic, talking about works not a child of God trusting by grace through faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, according to the scriptures!!!!
He does not even understand Andrew Farley ministries
He has never said he believes in the physical resurrection of Jesus.
@@johnwheeler3071 Then he isn’t a Christian. That’s 1/3 the gospel of Jesus Christ. - (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
Only thing Peterson is committed to is dodging questions
I agree and I can't see why most comments don't understand. No one seems to care whether or not he says he believes in the physical resurrection of Jesus or not.
@@johnwheeler3071 agree. I think he’s being very intentional with his language in avoiding these questions. I personally think it’s because he doesn’t actually believe in the literal truth of the Bible, but he thinks that, in general, it’s good for people to believe in a Christian God. And so he walks this line of promoting Christianity, but also avoiding committing to any literal belief in the supernatural claims of the Bible.
I also think that’s why he uses made up terms like “meta-true” instead of just saying something is a metaphor. It’s very deceiving and super patronizing in my opinion.
@@chriswimer6296 I agree except for one thing you said. I don't agree that he is promoting Christianity. I see it on the contrary. I think he's piggy backing on Christianity promoting his own view of scripture.
@@johnwheeler3071 definitely agree it’s his own version
I understand your reasoning, but perhaps you do not value symbolic interpretation of scripture as much as a forensic description in the pursuit of truth, based on your response. In the current era, there is often a tendency to approach scripture with a forensic, materialistic, and scientific mindset. However, this approach is not, and should not be, the one taken when interpreting works by authors like Shakespeare or Dostoyevsky, so why apply it to scripture and ancient texts? They were not written with that intent. I recommend focusing more on uncovering the underlying meanings of the stories rather than conducting a forensic analysis, such as of the resurrection. The ambiguity in scripture serves a purpose. This is where I believe Peterson's analysis originates from, and I certainly credit him for that.
Praise God for Jordan P. and his explanation of a TRUE CHRISTIAN commitment to the Gospel TRUTH from the WORD of God...Help all of us Lord who commit to your purpose as followers of your Inspired WORD !!!
“The pathway to what’s most real is through the hardest things that you can do.”
Another dodge by Jordan Peterson! Amazing Play!
Guy never answers a question straight when it comes to this topic. If you think this video is any different, don't waste your time.
I think he does believe in God but is not ready to commit his life to Jesus.
Just listen to it again. The answer is clear. Most probably you do not understand it as you think the answer is a simple ''yes or no''. Well if that's your entry to the conversation, no wonder you do not understand his answer.
@@paddygaming4856 , when he's confronted with the actual question of the actual supernatural nature of religion, he evades. E g. "Do you believe Jesus actually died, then his body rose into heaven?" gets the reply of "well what does it mean to rise into heaven? That's a serious question....". To be clear I think the actually believes the superstitious nonsense, but he tries to hide it from people to he can appear impartial and academic. But he does believe a God told somebody writing the Bible that, for example, the punishment for r@@pingg a
v!!rgin is paying off her father and marrying her.
I disagree infact he gave a better answer
@@charitysimon-peraboh5555, I'll meet you half way. It's probably the closest he's gotten to answering the question before. Although he still won't fully commit. I'm not quite sure why. And just as an aside, if you think of an the things he talked about off of such a short question, it is kind of hilarious.
This going to be a good one!
I went from being homeless to being arrested and given an ultimatum go to prison for 2 years or complete 1 year of rehab. I chose rehab, although it took 3 years to get that one year, through that hell on earth I chose to put my faith in God, the more I look the more I see Him. My journey has been an incredible story and not all I would think would be believed but God has shown up in my life in an amazing way. I have so much to be grateful for today. I should’ve been dead in 2014 yet here I am by the grace of God iam alive and awake.
Praise be to God. He’s working in you and will continue to do so. Glad to have another steadfast brother in Christ
Amen 🙏 we'll, said.... excellent answer 👏 at the end.
"The pathway to what 's most real is through the hardest things you can do" - The GOAT
WHERES THE FULL INTERVIEW???
Love to hear this and learn more about the Bible and God.
Spotify! The Shawn Ryan show!
Epic, thank you 🙏
You guys are my heros...God bless
The Greek definition of "Believe" is " To trust in and reley on"
"The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. " John chpt 11
I pray for JP