A cold saw is one of those things that once you use it you'll wonder why you waited so long to get. They're unbelievably improved from the old abrasive saws. Really liking your designs for your bed add ons. That'll be a sweet bed when done
@@wills5482 not really. If you use them enough they pay for themselves. I paid $475 on sale for my Dewalt DW872 with a 77 tooth blade. I have 5 blades total that I keep in rotation. Some Dewalt some Diablo. All are 72 or more teeth. Avg cost per blade is just under $200. But if you don't abuse your blades you can get hundreds of cuts per blade before getting them sharpened. Usually $20 ish per sharpening. You can usually sharpen each blade 6 times before the blade is used up.
I picked up the Makita dry cut metal saw a while back, and I've not brought out the abrasive one since then. The manual says not to use it for aluminium, but I've put the right blade on it, and take it slow, and it seems to cut aluminium OK.
I've had a few chop saws and I am FINISHED with abrasive chop saws! I'm building my own "cold saw" with a carbide blade, pulleys, and an extra motor I've got laying around. I've experimented with a 7-1/4" worm-drive circular saw with carbide blade and I LOVE it! The rub rail looks great! The whole bed is looking great! It's such a nice feeling to have built something to your own exact specifications vs trying to work with something someone else has made. Thanks for the video!
Don't be so hard on yourself those welds are great! The chop saws are better than a hacksaw but not much! I don't think I would have done anything different with this bed ,great job!
i havnt welded anything in years.....since brandon became a welder there was no need. i better get better at it because i am looking at building a ramp truck soon and that will be a huge project this winter......if i get my shop insulated.
I believe you would be very happy with the Evolution cold cut saw. They are accurate and fast. I put a Diablo 7 1/4" saw blade for steel on my skill saw works great for cutting metal plate. Nice job on the deck build for the truck.
The abrasive wheels used will make a big difference when cutting metal. We had a 16 inch saw that we used Norton Gemini wheels and it cut well. A new manager bought some cheaper Sait wheels that had to have a lot more pressure and power to cut anything. They cut slow and left a lot of dross. Another thing that makes a big difference is the angle that the wheel hits the surface. It should be throwing the sparks down. Either move the fence back or use a block to move the piece being cut back and it will cut much easier. A cold saw is better and probably less costly in the long run if you cut a lot of metal but the up front costs are higher.
Your welds look perfectly fine to me. You're built a work truck not a show truck although I understand you want it to look nice. Those rub rails you made reminds me of a 10 foot all steel diamond plate flatbed that had rails like you made. It had a nice heavy duty hitch plate built into it. One of those things I wish I'd have kept.
you can never have enough tie points! i hate when i see a flatbed with the rub rail all crooked and bent up. i just wish i could move a little faster and move on to another truck.
@@j.c.smithprojects I agree. Loads don't always end up in the same space and some require different points to secure at. Some of the rub rails were a little bent on that 10 foot bed I had and some of the diamond plate needed repairs. But I paid almost nothing for the truck it was on so it's hard to complain about minor imperfections.
If the body mount plates right at the back are just to stop the back of the body bouncing while the truck is being driven then the plates you've cut will probably be fine. Another option might be to have them thin at the bottom and then to thicken out on the top to pick up on the two upper bolts on the chassis and so you can have two bolts through the bed frame as well...
i thought of that but the top bolts are too close to the rear leaf spring mount. the bed doesnt need the rear mounting plates. the main frame on the bed is 7" tall channel. i only have 1 1/2" of space and i had to offset the holes in the plate just to get that width.
I find the downward pressure Definitely causes the blade to drift. A lot of the youtubers that got the evolution saw "loved it" except Matthias wandel whom I would trust the most, he used it to built a lawn tractor cart and the blade chipped cutting metal bed frames up
The first abrasive saw I had lasted twenty years the second one lasted about five quality has changed in the world then got the evolution saw and it's is so much faster you always have 14 inch instead of the abrasive one getting smaller as I wears down. It has smooth cold straight cuts. The bad part really loud while cutting and must wear safety glasses good luck with your decision but you will not be sorry. Awesome job on bed you are one of the best a lot of knowledge.
i have looked at many saws recently. i dont currently use one enough to invest into a commercial model with liquid cooling. the evolution may be the ticket.
JC I know this is a older video I have two ports bands and I have one mounted to a Milwaukee Portable Band Saw Table and I like it better than either one of my evolution saws or my desalt chop saw exactly like yours
The only downside to the dry cut saw is blade cost. If used properly, which is lighter gauge material, non hardened, they last a long time. Mystery metal can destroy a blade almost instantly. Take the portaband or a file to check hardness first. 1/4" is about the max thickness to get good blade life. Bandsaw is definitely the way to go for heavier stock. I still use an abrasive saw for hard materials, rebar, hydraulic hose and flex exhaust pipe. Your welds definitely improved, but a more thorough cleaning of the materials definitely will help. Notice how much nicer the welds looked on the new steel welded to the new steel? Looks good and should be a nice functional bed.
Good video again you do good work I like it when you Take trucks shorten the frame you are real good at it my friend I watch the whole video I promise are you going to have more video about the International cab over I hope so would you do a driving video in the cab over going down the road I have not been in one for a while I would like to see that again looking out the windshield i Have always liked them trucks Please would you do that be safe working on stuff my friend
the cabover will be making another appearance soon. i need to get this truck finished up before i start another project. i am going to try and clean up as many projects that i have laying around in order of usability. that cabover is one that my son and i will want to see all the way through.
Had a cold saw at my last job Milwaukee I think , very accurate and cleaner , blades were really expensive best for a one man shop rookies want to operate it like an abrasive saw ,two different animals , they'd ruin blades quick ,just didn't understand it!!
I try and watch em all and hit the like button cause like peeing in the ocean, it won't run over but helps to keep it from going dry. I know that nickles are nickles and they all help in small business. (your not thirty employee's) I care about my fellow man who gives it his all. I won't short you for stout but it does seem a bit over kill on a few things but week won't be the downfall. I do worry about the weight on the truck as every pound added seems like one less in payload, just my observation and I don't count. I sure feel for you and the "tin worm" as your state has a bumper crop of them. I really like the deck and headache rack. Good job so far, but JC, please don't be so hard on yourself. Most no one will ever look at how pretty the welds are. They are looking at strength and you have no shortage of that!
im looking for a good strong weld. typically that comes along with a nice even and consistent bead....anyone can get lucky and lay a nice one here or there but consistently creating a nice bead with good penetration is the goal.
you should check the brushes in your dewalts motor.. that's what the flathead screws are on the motoro, just a cover, turn them slowly pull back and the brushes will be right under it, they are under spring tension.. but if its that old I bet the springs are weak, and brushes worn, so it is not making good contact and bogs down..
they were replaced. it was taken apart by a friend who rebuilds electric motors. he also cleaned the commutator and replace the bearings. it was better but this saw was never great since the day i bought it.
nope evalution don't hold up.but mk morse cold cut does, so does, sawblade,com onewe cut 4 inch and pipe under with morse saw all day everyday, were pipe fitters
Looking good jc. I wish i wouldve pulled my trk bed off and started from scratch or at teast it would have been easier to work on. But i dont have a good way of lifting it like you with the gradall
Like me, You're your worst critic. Lol The welds look pretty good. I fast forward through alot, I like your videos, but alot of what you do is common sense, "for some". I've done alot of the things you do, it's a passion of mine, I was born and raised up there in Clinton County. I enjoy watching your videos, thanks for the videos.
had it in to a friend who rebuilds motors. he replaced the brushes, cleaned the commutator and replace the bearings. this saw was never a power house to begin with. i think it is time to upgrade.
if i went out and bought everything i "need" every time i did a project, i would be broke! i will upgrade this saw when the time is right and i am sure about which one to buy. i dont have a problem spending money on tools.
Need and want are not the same thing. Look at how life changing the plasma and mag drill have been for you Time is money. Tools take save you time and money pay for them selves. If you are going to continue to fabricate. The cold saw is a no brainier
A cold saw is one of those things that once you use it you'll wonder why you waited so long to get. They're unbelievably improved from the old abrasive saws. Really liking your designs for your bed add ons. That'll be a sweet bed when done
But they are really expensive.
@@wills5482 not really. If you use them enough they pay for themselves. I paid $475 on sale for my Dewalt DW872 with a 77 tooth blade. I have 5 blades total that I keep in rotation. Some Dewalt some Diablo. All are 72 or more teeth. Avg cost per blade is just under $200. But if you don't abuse your blades you can get hundreds of cuts per blade before getting them sharpened. Usually $20 ish per sharpening. You can usually sharpen each blade 6 times before the blade is used up.
I picked up the Makita dry cut metal saw a while back, and I've not brought out the abrasive one since then.
The manual says not to use it for aluminium, but I've put the right blade on it, and take it slow, and it seems to cut aluminium OK.
I've had a few chop saws and I am FINISHED with abrasive chop saws! I'm building my own "cold saw" with a carbide blade, pulleys, and an extra motor I've got laying around. I've experimented with a 7-1/4" worm-drive circular saw with carbide blade and I LOVE it! The rub rail looks great! The whole bed is looking great! It's such a nice feeling to have built something to your own exact specifications vs trying to work with something someone else has made. Thanks for the video!
Don't be so hard on yourself those welds are great! The chop saws are better than a hacksaw but not much! I don't think I would have done anything different with this bed ,great job!
i havnt welded anything in years.....since brandon became a welder there was no need. i better get better at it because i am looking at building a ramp truck soon and that will be a huge project this winter......if i get my shop insulated.
I believe you would be very happy with the Evolution cold cut saw. They are accurate and fast. I put a Diablo 7 1/4" saw blade for steel on my skill saw works great for cutting metal plate. Nice job on the deck build for the truck.
thank you. i have another pretty large fabricating project or two coming up so having a good saw would be very helpful.
The wheels look really nice.😎 Looking forward to seeing the brackets welded and the bed on the truck. Good job on the welds.😎
Very cool build , I'm looking forward to our tractor supply being finished , currently just the outside walls
I went cold cut for steel. No comparison. No dust, no sparks, just chips. Clean cuts, too.
Hope you keep the FL70, turning out to be an awesome truck.
The abrasive wheels used will make a big difference when cutting metal. We had a 16 inch saw that we used Norton Gemini wheels and it cut well. A new manager bought some cheaper Sait wheels that had to have a lot more pressure and power to cut anything. They cut slow and left a lot of dross. Another thing that makes a big difference is the angle that the wheel hits the surface. It should be throwing the sparks down. Either move the fence back or use a block to move the piece being cut back and it will cut much easier.
A cold saw is better and probably less costly in the long run if you cut a lot of metal but the up front costs are higher.
Your welds look perfectly fine to me. You're built a work truck not a show truck although I understand you want it to look nice. Those rub rails you made reminds me of a 10 foot all steel diamond plate flatbed that had rails like you made. It had a nice heavy duty hitch plate built into it. One of those things I wish I'd have kept.
you can never have enough tie points! i hate when i see a flatbed with the rub rail all crooked and bent up. i just wish i could move a little faster and move on to another truck.
@@j.c.smithprojects I agree. Loads don't always end up in the same space and some require different points to secure at. Some of the rub rails were a little bent on that 10 foot bed I had and some of the diamond plate needed repairs. But I paid almost nothing for the truck it was on so it's hard to complain about minor imperfections.
Excellent build on the bed. It should serve you well.
If the body mount plates right at the back are just to stop the back of the body bouncing while the truck is being driven then the plates you've cut will probably be fine. Another option might be to have them thin at the bottom and then to thicken out on the top to pick up on the two upper bolts on the chassis and so you can have two bolts through the bed frame as well...
i thought of that but the top bolts are too close to the rear leaf spring mount. the bed doesnt need the rear mounting plates. the main frame on the bed is 7" tall channel. i only have 1 1/2" of space and i had to offset the holes in the plate just to get that width.
@@j.c.smithprojects Fair enough. I was sure there would be a good reason why you hadn't made that choice. Now everyone knows what it is...
I find the downward pressure Definitely causes the blade to drift. A lot of the youtubers that got the evolution saw "loved it" except Matthias wandel whom I would trust the most, he used it to built a lawn tractor cart and the blade chipped cutting metal bed frames up
Try changing the brushes and lightly sanding the armature as well as a bit of grease. We have one like that and that was all it needed.
The first abrasive saw I had lasted twenty years the second one lasted about five quality has changed in the world then got the evolution saw and it's is so much faster you always have 14 inch instead of the abrasive one getting smaller as I wears down. It has smooth cold straight cuts. The bad part really loud while cutting and must wear safety glasses good luck with your decision but you will not be sorry.
Awesome job on bed you are one of the best a lot of knowledge.
i have looked at many saws recently. i dont currently use one enough to invest into a commercial model with liquid cooling. the evolution may be the ticket.
JC I know this is a older video I have two ports bands and I have one mounted to a Milwaukee Portable Band Saw Table and I like it better than either one of my evolution saws or my desalt chop saw exactly like yours
Those evolution saws are very good. My dad had one till someone stole it. Has loads of torque and was reasonably accurate
The only downside to the dry cut saw is blade cost. If used properly, which is lighter gauge material, non hardened, they last a long time. Mystery metal can destroy a blade almost instantly. Take the portaband or a file to check hardness first. 1/4" is about the max thickness to get good blade life. Bandsaw is definitely the way to go for heavier stock. I still use an abrasive saw for hard materials, rebar, hydraulic hose and flex exhaust pipe. Your welds definitely improved, but a more thorough cleaning of the materials definitely will help. Notice how much nicer the welds looked on the new steel welded to the new steel? Looks good and should be a nice functional bed.
its coming along. im no welder. i would rather grind a weld out and do it again than to have to look at a crappy weld every time i use that truck.
Good video again you do good work I like it when you Take trucks shorten the frame you are real good at it my friend I watch the whole video I promise are you going to have more video about the International cab over I hope so would you do a driving video in the cab over going down the road I have not been in one for a while I would like to see that again looking out the windshield i Have always liked them trucks Please would you do that be safe working on stuff my friend
the cabover will be making another appearance soon. i need to get this truck finished up before i start another project. i am going to try and clean up as many projects that i have laying around in order of usability. that cabover is one that my son and i will want to see all the way through.
Had a cold saw at my last job Milwaukee I think , very accurate and cleaner , blades were really expensive best for a one man shop rookies want to operate it like an abrasive saw ,two different animals , they'd ruin blades quick ,just didn't understand it!!
i got the one man shop part covered....i might even have enough common sense to make the blades last.
I sure you got that covered ,I think you'd like it, just need some patients!!!!
The Evolution chop saw works amazing I have it as well as a few other channels I watch have it
I try and watch em all and hit the like button cause like peeing in the ocean, it won't run over but helps to keep it from going dry. I know that nickles are nickles and they all help in small business. (your not thirty employee's) I care about my fellow man who gives it his all. I won't short you for stout but it does seem a bit over kill on a few things but week won't be the downfall. I do worry about the weight on the truck as every pound added seems like one less in payload, just my observation and I don't count. I sure feel for you and the "tin worm" as your state has a bumper crop of them. I really like the deck and headache rack. Good job so far, but JC, please don't be so hard on yourself. Most no one will ever look at how pretty the welds are. They are looking at strength and you have no shortage of that!
im looking for a good strong weld. typically that comes along with a nice even and consistent bead....anyone can get lucky and lay a nice one here or there but consistently creating a nice bead with good penetration is the goal.
you should check the brushes in your dewalts motor.. that's what the flathead screws are on the motoro, just a cover, turn them slowly pull back and the brushes will be right under it, they are under spring tension.. but if its that old I bet the springs are weak, and brushes worn, so it is not making good contact and bogs down..
they were replaced. it was taken apart by a friend who rebuilds electric motors. he also cleaned the commutator and replace the bearings. it was better but this saw was never great since the day i bought it.
Have a Ryobi of the same size as you Dewalt, works good for me.
nope evalution don't hold up.but mk morse cold cut does, so does, sawblade,com onewe cut 4 inch and pipe under with morse saw all day everyday, were pipe fitters
Looking good jc. I wish i wouldve pulled my trk bed off and started from scratch or at teast it would have been easier to work on. But i dont have a good way of lifting it like you with the gradall
Cold saw is the best...cuts way faster than abrasive....
I Do like this build and thanks for sharing
Buy an evolution cold saw I wish I had done it earlier
I don't remember what brand saw mine is but I got a steel cutting blade from County line saw and really like it.
i will get another saw once i have decided on which best suits my needs and wallet!
Mine is a 14" Morse. With a oshlun steel cutting blade. Stop by the shop if you want to check it out.
Like me, You're your worst critic. Lol The welds look pretty good.
I fast forward through alot, I like your videos, but alot of what you do is common sense, "for some".
I've done alot of the things you do, it's a passion of mine, I was born and raised up there in Clinton County.
I enjoy watching your videos, thanks for the videos.
try a good pipe cutter - like a Rigid
i have the full rigid pipe cutting and threading set up including the tripod vise.
Rails look great and hefty too!
Rub Railing looks good on the bed
Are you using an extention cord on that saw?
Good video JC
Check the brush length in the saw motor?
had it in to a friend who rebuilds motors. he replaced the brushes, cleaned the commutator and replace the bearings. this saw was never a power house to begin with. i think it is time to upgrade.
Still sell saw at Tractor Supply $200
See if you can find a set of brushes
Need more vids for the cabover
in time kyle...i have to finish what i started before i go onto another project.
Mikita LC1230 cold chop saw is the way to go.
You need a cold saw, the days of abrasive saws are LONG over
if i went out and bought everything i "need" every time i did a project, i would be broke! i will upgrade this saw when the time is right and i am sure about which one to buy. i dont have a problem spending money on tools.
Need and want are not the same thing. Look at how life changing the plasma and mag drill have been for you Time is money. Tools take save you time and money pay for them selves. If you are going to continue to fabricate. The cold saw is a no brainier
Your welds look good.
Nice work.
Beautiful flatbed sir.
thanks....just trying to improve the functionality and put a few extras in while im at it.
Those bulkhead braces look alright to me
i want then to comedown and farther forward. i know it might seem senseless but i think it will look much cleaner that way.
Good job keep it up
Blades loading up. Tap it with a old file.
i did that....it is time to replace it with something better.
Yes sir. Just trying to help
good advice. it works wonders when the blade has been overheated and filled.
Yes sir. Thanks for you content. You're one of the smartest guys out there when it comes to diesels.
Work lights for bed
Evolution chop saw is the cats meow
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Massive d rings look good
i salvaged them from another truck bed i have kept around.
@@j.c.smithprojects always the best is when you dont got to buy and you can just salvage
Get a metric tape measure ... way more accurate!