"Lorgar struggled with his faiths, his beliefs and also being a bitch!" That and Angron as being 'the angry badger of the primarchs' made me laugh! 😄😄😄
Jaghatai was said to be slightly taller than Horus in "Brotherhood of the Storm". Very cool story for people to read. There's some "human meeting primarch for the first time" stuff in there and it is pretty hilarious.
It always irritates me that in "Fulgrim" it says that Ferrus Manus is a full head taller than his brothers Vulcan and Corvus Corax. Probably just a case of discontinuity because in most other sources Vulkan is significantly larger than all the others
That sounds pretty weird, I wouldn't count on it being canon. Also being a head taller than both Vulkan(who's huge) and Corvus(who's probably more average primarch height) doesn't make sense.
In 'the unremembered empire', the lion and guilliman are very similar in size, with the lion slightly taller, with conrad taller than both (chap 16 for conrad size comparison) In 'Scars', its said that jaghatai is taller than mortarion (Chap 20)
Its impressive how every "Primarch height" video looks at Ferrus being directly stated to be a full head taller than Corax and Vulkan in 'Fulgrim', and then goes "nah, I don't like that, I'm gonna say he's a manlet instead"
In plague war, daemon Mortarion is described as 30ft tall *The power of Chaos had swelled Mortarion well beyond his original dimensions. Made twice the size of a mortal man by the Emperor, Nurgle had stretched him further, so that he was thirty feet tall, a stature befitting his exalted status in the Plague God’s court.*
In the book deliverance lost Corax is said to be taller than Dorn, though not as heavily built (Deliverance Lost). As corax and konrad are practically twins they should be a similar size. Alpharius literally looks up to all his brothers. The Lion is said to be taller than Russ (Wolf king), and Robute (the unremembered empire) and 'one of the taller primarchs". Angron is said to be a comparable height to Horus, but massively broad (Galaxy burns) and Magnus is said to be a match in stature to Vulkan (The fury of Magnus) who was said to be as tall as Horus is when Horus wears terminator armour. Magnus is also said to be taller than the emperor (The first Heretic). Lastly Ferrus is said to be a head taller than both Vulkan and Corax (Fulgrim), which should make him the largest primarch.
Note: The Alpha Legion marines are noted as being taller than the Astartes of other legions. Likely, Alpharius and Omegon were identical in height to their boys
It has been said in books(one specifically that I can think of..) that Jaghatai was slightly taller than Leman… as they faced off. While Leman was heavier built / stockier..
In the 28th book of the Horus Heresy it says that Jaghatai is slightly taller than Mortarion, but not as havily built. In Dark Imperium: Godblight Mortarion is descripted as 10 m tall in his demon form.
@maltheri9833 Nah, no way the Great Khan would allow some lousy Drukhari to take him captive. He'd sooner will his own hearts to stop than allow that shit. I figure he's just up to similar activities as other characters that have been in the Warp for ages without any indication that they have been corrupted by Chaos like Corvus Corax, Leman Russ, or Kaldor Draigo; you know, hunting down Chaos Astartes warbands and Drukhari and daemons and such. Just because the writers haven't chosen to bring him back yet doesn't mean he's dead or anything, they just haven't decided what to do with him.
@@titanomachy2217 he didnt say dead, he said in a torture chamber, he's in their realm now, you can easily get lost or trapped in the webway, the eldar will know how to traverse it safely but even a primarch has no chance of that
@@SamuelButts And I said if he was in a Drukhari torture chamber, he would probably just will his own hearts to stop, mainly so as to keep the Dark Eldar from getting any information out of him. Why would he just sit there getting tortured for thousands of years? That doesn't sound very primarch-like, they're usually pretty proactive.
When estimating Alpharius and omegons height comoared to SM, you need to factor in that the average Alpha Legion SM was taller than SM from other legions.
I've kept track and have the actual real heights and the books where it says it Alpharius Omegon: 8.5ft they have the tallest astartes too-book legion Lion, guilliman, and sanguinius are all the same at "just under 3meters"- unremebered empire Konrad is just above 11 foot being a whole head taller than lion, sanguinius and guilliman.- unremebered empire. Vulkan is barely taller than cruze with no armor so he is 11ft with no armor on- vulkan lives Horus is the same height as sanguinius pre hersey- book war without end Still havent read all the books but thats the legitimate height of those primarchs The khan is actually taller than morty- book the scars when they fight and also khan is taller but less broad than magnus same book
One thing I don't get: does the actual flesh and blood body of Horus grow larger after he turns traitor? Or does he just put on a massive new set of custom Terminator armor to rival the Emperor in size? Do the powers of the Warp make his body grow?
@@titanomachy2217it’s kind of similar to the emps use of aspects. His visble size seems to be the reflection of the power he is channeling per The End and the Death trilogy.
I'm fairly certain when the lion and Russ squared up to each other it was said the Lion was slightly taller. I think it was in Leeman Russ: The Great Wolf.
+ PS. In the book "Lord of the First" I think it says that Lion is a little over 3 meters without armor. Unless it really is as the author of the film says (in another book). I don't remember.
Vulcan might not kill you. He is idk… and saves people, regular people at cost to his own men sometimes. Not a nice guy but compassionate for a primarch.
brother Magnus can literally turn himself into a normal sized human or a titan with his psychic powers. when Russ was fighting him he probably was on his normal size
Angron is taller than that. He is the size of a warhound titan in daemonic form, as stated in Emperors Gift. So he's about 56 foot tall. Also his mortal height has never been mentioned, other than saying he was as tall as Lorgar but the novel was referring to the difference between a Primarch and a SM.
100% you can easily tell that from the miniture scalings. He's sort of hunched over some and still towers over everything. Not sure if 56 feet is accurate, I feel closer to 40' or so. His base is a little higher than Guilliman's but if he straightened out his posture he'd easily be 3 Guilliman's and then a little on top.
@@DetroitTyler It is accurate in that he's said to be as tall as a warhound and that's how tall a warhound is, you're 40 feet is just your opinion, also the miniatures have nothing to do with the real scale.
The Black Library need to issue some official lore on this. As I think this is probably quite accurate, but the books give contradicting information. Part of the engima of 30K/40K I suppose. But I'm always looking at random shit like lamposts trying to workout how tall a primarch is when im driving listening to the books.
Are there any sources for these? It's said space marines are between 6ft 6" (there's actually a case of this being said, can't remember which book it was but a space marine was referred to as shorter, at only 2m/6'6") and 7.5ft.
When the lion shows up on ultramar, gillman remarks to himself that he's only a centimeter shorter than the lion is so that either makes gillman taller or the lion shorter
The only way this makes sense if you take what individual authors decided on. Its a know fact that they have strayed way of canon both on purpose and for various of their own ideas. Leman Russ as an example is decribed in every case (except some of the heresy books) as a figure that towered over his brothers. He stands head and shoulders taller than dorn and roboute and is a head taller than the lion in the lion and the wolf. the only primarch that rivaled him in height was ferrus (also mentioned in the heresy novels) and magnus. the idea that vulkan somehow ballooned into this bearmoth i dont understand where that came from. He reaches Ferrus to the elbow in the early heresy books. And was always considered like angry angron short but wide as a dumptruck.
It’d be cool if we got Corax and Perturabo returning at the same time since we’re used to traitor primarchs being daemons and loyalists remaining the same. Have a little switch
I personally want to see demonic bird Corax +Ravenguard box set and demon primarch Lorgar +word bearers box set release. So the story.. Lorgar leads the word bearers on a new crusade against the Imperium now that the eye of terror has become the great rift.. Corvus follows him out.
A thought just occurred to me. Given the face we see in artwork of cureent Chaos-Perty, and now knowing that theres a (lets just call him what he is) minor Chaos God of Technology with the introduction of Vashtorr, i would venture to guess that Perty is actually HIS Daemon Prince and not one of Chaos Undivided.
Jaghatai should technically be above Mortarion in the height scale. In the 28th Horus Heresy book Scars by Chris Wraight, Jaghatai is described as being “a bit taller” compared to Mortarion, who is “broader and wider” It fits into their characteristics really. Jaghatai was a lean and swift killing machine, whereas Mortarion is more of a bulwark, even more so as a Daemon Prince of Nurgle
In the book "Siege of Terra - The End and the Death - Volume I" Horus says, he is four times the size of Mersadie Oliton. The size of primarchs varies immensely from book to book.
Ok, after this video tell me just ONE thing: how comes ordinary Astartes can wear Primarchs armour and wield Primarchs weapons if they were bigger than them? There's no bad lore, only bad authors.
@theredditexperience1 Oh, I always thought that space marines were 2,20m custodes and terminators 2,50 and primarchs 2,80 (the shorter ones). Also, I don't think people count the cowlings when counting the height of terminators. Like, if you see the AoD marines next to leviathan terminators they are a head taller than the beakies (without counting the cowling)
Love to think the emperor of mankind stands roughly 36feet... Same with in elden ring... The giants looking down at the empyrean's like humans and dwarfs... And empyrean's doing the same except looking down at humans... And titans do this to the giants... While dwarfs and very specific gnomes.. One more thing... I like to imagine giants stand roughly 60 to 90 feet... While empyrean's are anywhere between 25 and 50... With radagon being at the 50 threshold when his body stopped growing as the power continued to grow... Kinda like how the emperor stepped out into the spot light at about 36 feet and has remained the same size sense just advancements in environment lead to him looking small on the golden thrown... And back to empyrean's... Mikella was born absolutely tiny in comparison... Standing roughly 16 feet... And was planning to grow to around 26 feet to accommodate for his power... But probably ended up a giant or titan being tanted by the omens blood known as moghwin... Yeah you know that dragon in demon souls... Make it an empyrean md call it mikella.. Of course model change is going to be needed in order for it to match... Same thing with either multiple transitions in environment like dark souls 3 and the optional tree boss... A vague representation... But a representation non the less
If I recall I think the Lion is significantly shorter than Russ, or maybe it was Dorn he was shorter than... I have to read again to be sure I'm not making it up.
In the book, 'wolf king' the lion is said to be taller than leman, and also that Guilleman (unremembered empire) as well as being one of the taller primarchs
@@joshs8704 What I'm sourcing IIRC, is a passage from some point when one of dorns warriors dueled with one from the dark angels where both Primarchs were present... Again, if I remember correctly.. I want to say it was in Rogal Dorn's book.
emperor's nut was biracial you can talk about, the race/ cultures each primarch is based on. like The khan asia, G man Roman, Vulkin(based in really hot planet,hot weather= darker melanin) African, The lion united kingdom, longer middle eastern. It could be a great video.
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270idk if it was confirmed but it was heavily implied since he has canonically guided humanity everytime there was a great upheaval, even adopting the guise of a messiah at times.
I thought i had read that angron was right in the middle of the brothers, while being stout and bulky in terms of proportions due to his gladiator background
That's not Fulgrim anymore. In the Horus Heresy he was in a deep regret of what he have done but he was possessed by a demon. In the end the demon gained control, went through a transformation to a demon prince and Fulgrims intellect was destroyed or looked away in the demon price to look at the mess he created in agony without the chance to do anything. In the end it's a Slaanesh demon price (or even greater demon tbh) that bursted out of Fulgrim body, not Fulgrim itself.
(bear with me on this spelling and interpret the incorrect words.... talk to text). Good job on the research cause the height / weight are these guys is revealed towards the end of the Heresy novels. I read the entire Horus Heresy series back to back followed by just recently finishing the siege of Terra Series. I'm going to take a break from Warhammer for a while, lol BUT..... Right around book 45 in the series is when Constantin valdor Stan's next to Lehman Ross and he is taller than Russ. But Valdor was impressed at how thick, heavy and muscular Russ is. So Lehman Russ is probably around 9.5 feet. Constantin is 10 feet.... The Russ is super strong, very thickly muscled. Intimidating looking (according to valdor) Vulkan is an absolute unit, far larger and heavier than everybody else. Also the toughest and strongest of all. Also everybody knows not to fight him. It's mentioned several times over the course of the books Horus is big. And he's really good at fighting. All of the primarchs know that sanguineus (sp) and Vulcan are the best fighters. Even the purple dude one.... I can't remember his name right now. Lol. The good-looking one. Vulkan Sanguineus Horus Khan The purple one .....theeen the rest are about the same except Lorgar. He's not a sissy though, before he became a demon he could get after it too. Apparently becoming a demon did not help him. He's not as good of a fighter anymore Oh!!!! I always get Gulliman and Dorn mixed up for some reason but I know rogal dorn is about a foot-and-a-half taller than Constantine. I actually don't know how big gulliman is. I don't remember any mention pf his size....
Do you realize how much 3 meters high is? Your stated sizes would make them larger than dreadnoughts. An ordinary Marine is on average 220 centimeters tall. The tall marine is 240 cm. Most Primarchs look next to marines like marines look next to regular people. So they are between 260-300 cm. Angron is of similar height to Horus, but is described as much bulkier. Horus, exalted by the gods of chaos, actually grew, so he could be over 3 meters tall in terminator armor.
Note: bear hugs from Primarch Vulcan are by his very nature, fatal.
But worth it
The dude held up part of the palace during the seige so humans could escape the impact
@@mixmax6027 His humanity shines brighter then the rest of his brothers, quite possibly his most admirable trait.
@@mixmax6027 wasn't that.....magnus?
Irrelevant considering he could probably do the same thing with a handshake 😂
>Shortest Primarchs
>Turn to Chaos
Manlets not even once
Cant catch a break
Thier legion doesn't even know what side they are on
Tallest primarch also turned to chaos retard
Bald manlets as well
@@drewbakka5265 I think even black library writers also don't know what side Alpha legion is.
vulkan, blessed with a massive body and an even bigger heart
"Lorgar struggled with his faiths, his beliefs and also being a bitch!" That and Angron as being 'the angry badger of the primarchs' made me laugh! 😄😄😄
i expected angron to be one of the taller primearchs tbh
@@hollowmass738he was originally supposed to be the empathetic Primarch (yes, including Vulcan and Sanguinius) but his upbringing ruined that.
I was creased when he said he's also a bitch 😂😂😂
Jaghatai was said to be slightly taller than Horus in "Brotherhood of the Storm". Very cool story for people to read. There's some "human meeting primarch for the first time" stuff in there and it is pretty hilarious.
Also taller than Mortarion in Scars
Also "nearly a head taller" than Russ in Parh of Heaven, if I am mot mistaken
@@6ftTiny216 @DirtyMardi All correct. Not to shit on the video, of course. This is a very passionate fanbase after all LOL
@maltheri9833Konrad did the same thing.
It's like a toddler meeting Shaq
Vulkan's underwear itself can be rebuild into a XXXL size T-shirt for a common Emperium's folk
Terminator Armor Vulcan is pretty much a Dreadnaught.
Dont know why but this comment sounds like the beginning of a very especific "yo mama" joke
I always think of the ascended primarchs as a balloon compared to a rock
Much bigger but with no heft
It always irritates me that in "Fulgrim" it says that Ferrus Manus is a full head taller than his brothers Vulcan and Corvus Corax. Probably just a case of discontinuity because in most other sources Vulkan is significantly larger than all the others
Are you irritated that Ferrus was taller? Or that not enough people give this lore-accurate height respect
Well, he's not a head taller nowadays.
Came here to make this argument. Thanks.
A head shorter than himself lol
That sounds pretty weird, I wouldn't count on it being canon. Also being a head taller than both Vulkan(who's huge) and Corvus(who's probably more average primarch height) doesn't make sense.
Damn Corax owns Lorgar. Even in height. Lol
The true flex of Corax to all his traitor brother (except Konrad) is his long black shiny hair.
@@griffionwyvrus9063which he inherited from Emps.
Vulcann is the Size of an Imperial Knight. Especially if Guillimen is roughly the size of a Dreadnought
In 'the unremembered empire', the lion and guilliman are very similar in size, with the lion slightly taller, with conrad taller than both (chap 16 for conrad size comparison)
In 'Scars', its said that jaghatai is taller than mortarion (Chap 20)
Speak of Jaghatai, the height difference is hair-included?
Yeah, some of these figures are off but I imagine there’s so much lore with different statements it’s a balancing act.
Note: Horus is supped up on chaos juice; growing in stature but losing all your hair in the process... heavy price
Chaos is just steroids, confirmed.
Its impressive how every "Primarch height" video looks at Ferrus being directly stated to be a full head taller than Corax and Vulkan in 'Fulgrim', and then goes "nah, I don't like that, I'm gonna say he's a manlet instead"
Agreed, biggest discrepancy though is with Mortarian I think, he’s 30ft tall in Dark Imperium 100%.
In plague war, daemon Mortarion is described as 30ft tall
*The power of Chaos had swelled Mortarion well beyond his original dimensions. Made twice the size of a mortal man by the Emperor, Nurgle had stretched him further, so that he was thirty feet tall, a stature befitting his exalted status in the Plague God’s court.*
In the book deliverance lost Corax is said to be taller than Dorn, though not as heavily built (Deliverance Lost). As corax and konrad are practically twins they should be a similar size. Alpharius literally looks up to all his brothers. The Lion is said to be taller than Russ (Wolf king), and Robute (the unremembered empire) and 'one of the taller primarchs". Angron is said to be a comparable height to Horus, but massively broad (Galaxy burns) and Magnus is said to be a match in stature to Vulkan (The fury of Magnus) who was said to be as tall as Horus is when Horus wears terminator armour. Magnus is also said to be taller than the emperor (The first Heretic). Lastly Ferrus is said to be a head taller than both Vulkan and Corax (Fulgrim), which should make him the largest primarch.
This was my understanding as well.
True Dat!
Just dont let Ferrus get a head of himself cause he might lose his head
Magnus can change his size the same way the Emperor can. He is not inherently taller.
7:50 - Correction. I think Ferrus was a head shorter than mentioned!
In the book about the istvan massacre it literally says Ferris manus is a HEAD taller than Vulcan (who was tall)
😢😢
I'm sad because Ferrus had to stop growing.
*Was* a head taller
that must mean they are same hight then. 😅😅😂😢😢
Note: The Alpha Legion marines are noted as being taller than the Astartes of other legions. Likely, Alpharius and Omegon were identical in height to their boys
It has been said in books(one specifically that I can think of..) that Jaghatai was slightly taller than Leman… as they faced off. While Leman was heavier built / stockier..
I can’t remember what book but it should be the one when Russ and the Kahn meet again after he had denied to help him
Path Of Heaven i think
Why were they fighting?
Vulkan is literally what you would call a friendly giant! His love for humanity was as fierce and as strong as he was.
holy hell fulgrim is alot taller than I thought.
Not only you.
His height surprised both of us.
Just makes it all the more clear how insanely massive Rylanor's ceramite testicles were, lol.
In the 28th book of the Horus Heresy it says that Jaghatai is slightly taller than Mortarion, but not as havily built. In Dark Imperium: Godblight Mortarion is descripted as 10 m tall in his demon form.
Exactly what I just said hahaha yep!
So the Khan is 10m tall
wow, Magnus so tall !
The Khan is actually in the WEBWAY hunting the DARK ELDAR
@maltheri9833 Or maybe he's just lost, fr.
@maltheri9833 Wouldn't they brag about capturing a Primarch or like use it against the Imperium or sum
@maltheri9833 Nah, no way the Great Khan would allow some lousy Drukhari to take him captive. He'd sooner will his own hearts to stop than allow that shit. I figure he's just up to similar activities as other characters that have been in the Warp for ages without any indication that they have been corrupted by Chaos like Corvus Corax, Leman Russ, or Kaldor Draigo; you know, hunting down Chaos Astartes warbands and Drukhari and daemons and such. Just because the writers haven't chosen to bring him back yet doesn't mean he's dead or anything, they just haven't decided what to do with him.
@@titanomachy2217 he didnt say dead, he said in a torture chamber, he's in their realm now, you can easily get lost or trapped in the webway, the eldar will know how to traverse it safely but even a primarch has no chance of that
@@SamuelButts And I said if he was in a Drukhari torture chamber, he would probably just will his own hearts to stop, mainly so as to keep the Dark Eldar from getting any information out of him. Why would he just sit there getting tortured for thousands of years? That doesn't sound very primarch-like, they're usually pretty proactive.
“And also being a bitch” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 best quote ever!!
haha I had to double take that one to be sure
Started watching this without seeing which channel it was and expected MajorKill to be talking about the primarchs' junk.
Vulkan has the biggest, because he's the tallest, and I'm pretty sure it works proportionally
@@Flesh_Wizardwell, and because he’s… well… you know…
@@RoBo11235black?
@@herewearegoingto2297 what?
@@RoBo11235 read your comment
When estimating Alpharius and omegons height comoared to SM, you need to factor in that the average Alpha Legion SM was taller than SM from other legions.
I just realized that Magnus is the template for Radahn in Elden Ring... Damn
I love your videos. They are awesome. Keep it up
My top. From shortest to tallest.
1. Alpharius/Omegon
2. Lorgar
3. Angron
4. Leman Russ
5. Rogal Dorn
6. Corvus Corax
7. Robaute Guilliman
8. Fulgrim
9. Horus Lupercal
10. Sanguinius
11. Perturabo
12. Lion El'jonhson
13. Mortarion
14. Konrad Curze
15. Jagathai Khan
16. Ferrus Manus
17. Vulkan
18. Magnus
I've kept track and have the actual real heights and the books where it says it
Alpharius Omegon: 8.5ft they have the tallest astartes too-book legion
Lion, guilliman, and sanguinius are all the same at "just under 3meters"- unremebered empire
Konrad is just above 11 foot being a whole head taller than lion, sanguinius and guilliman.- unremebered empire.
Vulkan is barely taller than cruze with no armor so he is 11ft with no armor on- vulkan lives
Horus is the same height as sanguinius pre hersey- book war without end
Still havent read all the books but thats the legitimate height of those primarchs
The khan is actually taller than morty- book the scars when they fight and also khan is taller but less broad than magnus same book
One thing I don't get: does the actual flesh and blood body of Horus grow larger after he turns traitor? Or does he just put on a massive new set of custom Terminator armor to rival the Emperor in size? Do the powers of the Warp make his body grow?
@@titanomachy2217it’s kind of similar to the emps use of aspects. His visble size seems to be the reflection of the power he is channeling per The End and the Death trilogy.
@@Perclocept Oh ok, that makes sense. Thanks.
all primarchs are taller than 3 meters except Alfrius and Omegon
Even though Vulkan himself is a hulking tower, it was the smallest blueberry who helped him heal after being tortured for months by Konrad.
ferrus, magnus, and vulkan are the tall ones, just speaking still loyal.
I'm fairly certain when the lion and Russ squared up to each other it was said the Lion was slightly taller. I think it was in Leeman Russ: The Great Wolf.
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PS. In the book "Lord of the First" I think it says that Lion is a little over 3 meters without armor.
Unless it really is as the author of the film says (in another book). I don't remember.
It was probably a pretty small difference if they can see eye to eye in other works.
I just finished Godblight, and I'm fairly sure it (or the previous book) mentions Mortarion as being 30' tall
Maybe with the extended wings but the artwork with Guilliman shows him being 50% taller
30ft tall as a Daemon Primarch.
@@stanislous137 same as angron
Yep, exactly, just thinking the same thing. I think some of these figures are off but it’s still a good video and I appreciate the time put in
Hard to believe a 10.5 feet tall sanguinius won a 1v1 fight against a titan making it pop a void shield.
Warpfuckery
Primarchs are also psychic so...
Fulgrim stated that Ferrus was a full head taller than him and most other Primarchs.
Vulcan might not kill you. He is idk… and saves people, regular people at cost to his own men sometimes. Not a nice guy but compassionate for a primarch.
So Leman Russ is half the size of Magnus and broke his back in Prospero?
Yes
That was before magnus retreated off into the warp and evolved into what we see him as I believe.
brother Magnus can literally turn himself into a normal sized human or a titan with his psychic powers. when Russ was fighting him he probably was on his normal size
Angron is taller than that. He is the size of a warhound titan in daemonic form, as stated in Emperors Gift. So he's about 56 foot tall. Also his mortal height has never been mentioned, other than saying he was as tall as Lorgar but the novel was referring to the difference between a Primarch and a SM.
100% you can easily tell that from the miniture scalings. He's sort of hunched over some and still towers over everything. Not sure if 56 feet is accurate, I feel closer to 40' or so. His base is a little higher than Guilliman's but if he straightened out his posture he'd easily be 3 Guilliman's and then a little on top.
@@DetroitTyler It is accurate in that he's said to be as tall as a warhound and that's how tall a warhound is, you're 40 feet is just your opinion, also the miniatures have nothing to do with the real scale.
I must admit. I loved Angrons origin story and finding by Big E, but...
I never liked what GW did with his Demon form? Just seemed so generic.
Leeman grew to 50' tall when he fought Magnus, their height depends on the Warp infusing them at any moment because they are Warp creatures.
Ferrus and Vulkan are my favourite Primarchs. Absolute units!
Sadge that that Ferrus is gone. At least Vulkan can come back.
Jaghatai didn't enter the Warp, he entered the Webway and might be trapped in a Temporal maze.
The Black Library need to issue some official lore on this. As I think this is probably quite accurate, but the books give contradicting information. Part of the engima of 30K/40K I suppose. But I'm always looking at random shit like lamposts trying to workout how tall a primarch is when im driving listening to the books.
Are there any sources for these? It's said space marines are between 6ft 6" (there's actually a case of this being said, can't remember which book it was but a space marine was referred to as shorter, at only 2m/6'6") and 7.5ft.
Been retconned
No way are Space Marines only 6'6. Ridiculous. They are 7'5 at least. Primaris 8'.
@JohnnyZenith It was a special marine.
@@garethjohnstone9282maximmion voss of the imperial fist
They would barely taller than me. Space marines tower over regular size men. Maybe regular men are only 4 ft tall. I doubt it.
When the lion shows up on ultramar, gillman remarks to himself that he's only a centimeter shorter than the lion is so that either makes gillman taller or the lion shorter
The only way this makes sense if you take what individual authors decided on. Its a know fact that they have strayed way of canon both on purpose and for various of their own ideas. Leman Russ as an example is decribed in every case (except some of the heresy books) as a figure that towered over his brothers. He stands head and shoulders taller than dorn and roboute and is a head taller than the lion in the lion and the wolf. the only primarch that rivaled him in height was ferrus (also mentioned in the heresy novels) and magnus. the idea that vulkan somehow ballooned into this bearmoth i dont understand where that came from. He reaches Ferrus to the elbow in the early heresy books. And was always considered like angry angron short but wide as a dumptruck.
It’d be cool if we got Corax and Perturabo returning at the same time since we’re used to traitor primarchs being daemons and loyalists remaining the same. Have a little switch
I personally want to see demonic bird Corax +Ravenguard box set and demon primarch Lorgar +word bearers box set release.
So the story.. Lorgar leads the word bearers on a new crusade against the Imperium now that the eye of terror has become the great rift.. Corvus follows him out.
I never knew agron was one of the smallest.Hes kind of like a pit bull
Nutbug just got this guy as a subscriber
A thought just occurred to me. Given the face we see in artwork of cureent Chaos-Perty, and now knowing that theres a (lets just call him what he is) minor Chaos God of Technology with the introduction of Vashtorr, i would venture to guess that Perty is actually HIS Daemon Prince and not one of Chaos Undivided.
Angron is still angry about being short
We must ask the important questions here how many woman did each primarch pull
Russ definitely pulled the most bitches. Those Fenrisian women are a hardy bunch and could probably take it a lot better than most
They were created in the lab?
Fulgrim has a hefty amount of that
I’d say that Fulgrim was at least a head taller than Ferrus Manus…
That can’t be right. Vulkan’s nuts would be all over Roboute’s head if they hugged. Like Vulkan is one to do.
Relative hard to sort this out. The books differ regarding the size of some primarchs.
I thought jagatai was lost in the web way, not the warp
Hmmmm In the book Fulgrim it says Ferrus Manus is a head taller than Vulkan
So many inaccuracies it’s crazy.
“Wasn’t that tall…. 11.5ft”
Jaghatai should technically be above Mortarion in the height scale. In the 28th Horus Heresy book Scars by Chris Wraight, Jaghatai is described as being “a bit taller” compared to Mortarion, who is “broader and wider”
It fits into their characteristics really. Jaghatai was a lean and swift killing machine, whereas Mortarion is more of a bulwark, even more so as a Daemon Prince of Nurgle
Imagine how many servitors and servants died while cleaning the toilet of a 4 meter superman
Мне казалось Рогал Дорн самый крупный "живая крепость"
In the book "Siege of Terra - The End and the Death - Volume I" Horus says, he is four times the size of Mersadie Oliton.
The size of primarchs varies immensely from book to book.
That's warmaster horus he has a bunch of warp shenanigans going on
Ok, after this video tell me just ONE thing: how comes ordinary Astartes can wear Primarchs armour and wield Primarchs weapons if they were bigger than them?
There's no bad lore, only bad authors.
wasn't the lion described as 10ft in one of the books?
@theredditexperience1 but aren't terminators around 2,5 meters?
@theredditexperience1 Oh, I always thought that space marines were 2,20m custodes and terminators 2,50 and primarchs 2,80 (the shorter ones). Also, I don't think people count the cowlings when counting the height of terminators. Like, if you see the AoD marines next to leviathan terminators they are a head taller than the beakies (without counting the cowling)
in unremembered empire, its said that conrad is taller than the lion and guilliman
Love to think the emperor of mankind stands roughly 36feet... Same with in elden ring... The giants looking down at the empyrean's like humans and dwarfs... And empyrean's doing the same except looking down at humans... And titans do this to the giants...
While dwarfs and very specific gnomes..
One more thing... I like to imagine giants stand roughly 60 to 90 feet... While empyrean's are anywhere between 25 and 50... With radagon being at the 50 threshold when his body stopped growing as the power continued to grow...
Kinda like how the emperor stepped out into the spot light at about 36 feet and has remained the same size sense just advancements in environment lead to him looking small on the golden thrown... And back to empyrean's...
Mikella was born absolutely tiny in comparison... Standing roughly 16 feet... And was planning to grow to around 26 feet to accommodate for his power... But probably ended up a giant or titan being tanted by the omens blood known as moghwin... Yeah you know that dragon in demon souls... Make it an empyrean md call it mikella..
Of course model change is going to be needed in order for it to match... Same thing with either multiple transitions in environment like dark souls 3 and the optional tree boss... A vague representation... But a representation non the less
Huh, I always thought that Horus and Rus were more in the low mid range of Primarch heights but stout and bulky, like taller Angrons
Can't wait for the 1/18th figures of these guys XD
Thought ferrus was talker than Vulkan
@maltheri9833except magnus
Correct, Ferrus is stated to be a head taller than Vulkan and Corax.
@@doom1609 not anymore
@@jamesygamesy5124 Not after getting his head chopped off, no
If I recall I think the Lion is significantly shorter than Russ, or maybe it was Dorn he was shorter than... I have to read again to be sure I'm not making it up.
In the book, 'wolf king' the lion is said to be taller than leman, and also that Guilleman (unremembered empire) as well as being one of the taller primarchs
@@joshs8704 What I'm sourcing IIRC, is a passage from some point when one of dorns warriors dueled with one from the dark angels where both Primarchs were present... Again, if I remember correctly.. I want to say it was in Rogal Dorn's book.
emperor's nut was biracial
you can talk about, the race/ cultures each primarch is based on. like The khan asia, G man Roman, Vulkin(based in really hot planet,hot weather= darker melanin) African, The lion united kingdom, longer middle eastern. It could be a great video.
@maltheri9833 What is that true?
Vulcan is based on the West African Demi-god Ogun
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270idk if it was confirmed but it was heavily implied since he has canonically guided humanity everytime there was a great upheaval, even adopting the guise of a messiah at times.
uhh, vulcan wasnt based on africans, his skin just darkened due to mutation, his facial features are european mate
@@TS-jm7jm you are the first person I heard say that. Most Warhammer fans agree vulkan to be represented as a black man with charcoal skin.
Ferrus is the tallest pre-deamon. It in the book and say he is tallest the vulkan
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Fun fact about name of Konrad Curze: Kurz means short in German.
I think this is in the wrong playlist.
Angron was huge and tall.Taller then him was only Magnus.Even beffore possesed
demon mortarion was confirmed to be like 30ft tall I thought?
I thought i had read that angron was right in the middle of the brothers, while being stout and bulky in terms of proportions due to his gladiator background
you forgot to subtract konrads head from his height
and ferrus
That's not Fulgrim anymore. In the Horus Heresy he was in a deep regret of what he have done but he was possessed by a demon. In the end the demon gained control, went through a transformation to a demon prince and Fulgrims intellect was destroyed or looked away in the demon price to look at the mess he created in agony without the chance to do anything. In the end it's a Slaanesh demon price (or even greater demon tbh) that bursted out of Fulgrim body, not Fulgrim itself.
We’ll that’s how you decide the best one
Some of them wear Battle Sister boots rather than Space Marine boots.
So thats what happened to the 2nd and 11th they were killed for being too tall....or too short
Khan is in the webway
Nice Video!
You obviously haven't read the books Lion is taller than Russ.
And Sanguinius is as tall as Horus without armour.
you forgot to update Ferrus Manus' height after istvan/post heresy like minus 6ft and a head smaller 🙂
This is brutal 😅😢
(bear with me on this spelling and interpret the incorrect words.... talk to text). Good job on the research cause the height / weight are these guys is revealed towards the end of the Heresy novels. I read the entire Horus Heresy series back to back followed by just recently finishing the siege of Terra Series. I'm going to take a break from Warhammer for a while, lol
BUT..... Right around book 45 in the series is when Constantin valdor Stan's next to Lehman Ross and he is taller than Russ. But Valdor was impressed at how thick, heavy and muscular Russ is. So Lehman Russ is probably around 9.5 feet. Constantin is 10 feet.... The Russ is super strong, very thickly muscled. Intimidating looking (according to valdor)
Vulkan is an absolute unit, far larger and heavier than everybody else. Also the toughest and strongest of all. Also everybody knows not to fight him. It's mentioned several times over the course of the books
Horus is big. And he's really good at fighting.
All of the primarchs know that sanguineus (sp) and Vulcan are the best fighters. Even the purple dude one.... I can't remember his name right now. Lol. The good-looking one.
Vulkan
Sanguineus
Horus
Khan
The purple one
.....theeen the rest are about the same except Lorgar. He's not a sissy though, before he became a demon he could get after it too. Apparently becoming a demon did not help him. He's not as good of a fighter anymore
Oh!!!! I always get Gulliman and Dorn mixed up for some reason but I know rogal dorn is about a foot-and-a-half taller than Constantine. I actually don't know how big gulliman is. I don't remember any mention pf his size....
I think Ferrus Mannus was about a head shorter than Fulgrim.
False in the book “fulgrim” it even says Ferris was a head taller than vulcan and corax
@@mjenkins91 humour is wasted on you, isn't it?
@@mjenkins91dont you get the joke
@@mjenkins91woooooosh
@@neilmartin7776it went right over his head
Mising Magnus The Red
Watch till the end bro
Going to do daemon Primarchs but not A Warp Corvus?
"he wasn't really that tall" he is 11 plus feet
The Lion is taller than Russ per the Leman Russ primarch novel.
TEN TO TWELVE!?!?!?!
We all know that Gorlock the Destroyer is the biggest primarch, maybe not in terms of height, but at least in width
So a lot more than just the three primarchs are demon princes because perturabo lorgar and magnus are demon princes
Do you realize how much 3 meters high is? Your stated sizes would make them larger than dreadnoughts. An ordinary Marine is on average 220 centimeters tall. The tall marine is 240 cm. Most Primarchs look next to marines like marines look next to regular people. So they are between 260-300 cm. Angron is of similar height to Horus, but is described as much bulkier. Horus, exalted by the gods of chaos, actually grew, so he could be over 3 meters tall in terminator armor.
Cool vid