Thanks Jason 👌. Will be a few weeks on the E Waste, need to go chemical shopping first and then it takes a week to dissolve off all the base metals before we can get to the good stuff 🤑. Very keene!
This time was relatively quick seen as I didn't make too many mistakes. 4-5 hours work perhaps? My first refining attempts back in the day dragged on for days at a time 😅
Thanks for the great feedback and for tuning in Trevor! I was really hoping to cover off a few little bits and pieces that other refiners have left out. 👍👍👍
Thanks Eck! Like I said a while back, slowly but surely I'm going to keep skilling up. If it's gold related, I want to master it! 🤑. Long ways to go on my refining yet, but its very a noticeable improvement between this one and my first few attempts at it 👍
Thanks Rob! I'll keep that in mind. I really enjoy playing around in the lab, so no doubt there will be plenty more interesting chem stuff to do in future 😀
Thanks Ben! In hindsight, I sure with I paid attention in science class. But I certainly didn't 😆. It has only sparked my interest in the last few years seen as its taken a golden tone lol
She's a ripper! I'll have to send the silver button away to be tested also, interested to see how the purity comes up via the silver chloride method. Usually I use the silver nitrate procedure
Just been told about your you tube channel great stuff mate love our high country im into the history side of gold how the got everything up there how it all worked keep them coming
Thanks Peter! I think our good mate Barber Damo has mentioned mentioned your spark for the gold era history. I love it also, would swap 20 years off my life to get my hands on a time machine and go back 🤩
Man, awesome vid. Do you process other ppls boards or computer scrap at all? I've got some stuff but not sure where to start. I've got some acids and smb and eurea and had a go myself but is has all sat for a couple of years now as I gave up at the time.
I'm currently doing some computer scrap for another fella, still a couple of weeks off completion at least though. Once the video comes out that will give you all the info you need to do your own hopefully!
G'day Jenko, you can remove the silver quite easily with some chemistry. But it does require some basic equipment. Research "Gold Inquartation" to learn the process. Inquartation is the easiest way to remove your silver, it will involve adding more silver to the mix with a melt, to bring the silver content up to around 75%. Once there is approx that amount of silver in the mix, you can easily dissolve all of the silver off in some hot dilute nitric acid. Leaving just the gold sponge behind. The silver can then also be recovered again with the addition of copper to the waste solution. The copper will replace the silver in the solution slowly, leaving you again with near pure elemental silver in your beaker.
Excellent video Bryan. Have you got a list or links for all of the chemicals that you have used? Perhaps you can do a video on the safe disposal of all of the chemicals that you have used? You certainly must have paid attention during Chemistry classes at school. About the only three chemicals that I am familiar with are Hydrochloric Acid and Borax and sugar. I often have to buy HA from Bunnings for use in the School Swimming Pool to adjust the chlorine levels and for brick cleaning cement or mortar. I and no doubt a few others will have to watch this video again numerous times to get familiar with the techniques involved. Thanks again for making this video. BTW, do you happen to know the chemical(s) involved in dissolving quartz rock to just leave the gold behind? Mark from Melbourne Australia
Thanks heaps Mark! I dont have links sorry, but i can make a list! Hydrochloric/Muriatic Acid as the holding solution, Nitric acid as the oxidiser, Urea for DeNoxing the finished solution before precipitation if you've used too much Nitric, Sodium Metabisulphite as the precipitation additive (reacts with the Hydrochloric to produce the Sulfur Dioxide gas that makes the gold drop out of solution), Sodium Hydroxide for converting the silver chloride to silver oxide (also the most effective additive for neutralising acidic waste for disposal), standard old sugar for converting the silver oxide to elemental silver. Stannous chloride is essentially just a heap of elemental tin dissolved (paifuly slowly) in hydrochloric acid, it is used as a reactant with the gold solution to either insure there is gold in solution or ensure you have precipitated all the gold from the solution. To your quartz question, the most accurate way to slowly dissolve silica and most things other than gold is Hydrofluric acid. It's not something we can purchase concentrated in Australia, but you can buy Alibrite from most auto spares shops and some welding/fabricating shops. Alibrite has a small amount of Hydrofluric in it. Wear gloves, put your specimens in a PLASTIC container and submerge it in Alibrite. Dispose of the Alibrite every 3 days and replace with new stuff. Continue the procedure until you get your desired end product. The other (and much more agressive) option is bulk Sodium hydroxide mixed into water. Put into a good quality stainless steel pot/ container and put onto low-medium heat. It's very reactive though, so much harder to control how much gets dissolved and how quickly. Hope that helps!
No more than a few dollars Alec. All of them are very cheap. The E Waste refine ill be doing soon will be using quite a bit of chemicals though, will be interesting to do the math on that.
Too true brother! I'm a big believer in common sense personally. Hate safety signs, hate idiotic rules that remove the ability for us to learn the repercussions from our actions!
My gold buyer (Grappy$ Gold Buyers) in Vic Australia has an XRF Analyser and a set of lab quality precision scales so he can determine the exact elemental make up of anything sent to him. They're extremely expensive machines on both parts, the XRF especially. I would love an Analyser of my own one day! Better keep mining 😜
Ah that got so agitated it was bloody fumin' within seconds!
Very enjoyable. Cheers!
Thank you 😁
That was very interesting to watch. The electronic waste also sounds to be interesting eagerly awaiting 😊
Thanks Jason 👌. Will be a few weeks on the E Waste, need to go chemical shopping first and then it takes a week to dissolve off all the base metals before we can get to the good stuff 🤑. Very keene!
Wow what an undertaking but great outcome.........
This time was relatively quick seen as I didn't make too many mistakes. 4-5 hours work perhaps? My first refining attempts back in the day dragged on for days at a time 😅
Brilliant walkthrough. Big thanks for putting it together.
Thanks for the great feedback and for tuning in Trevor! I was really hoping to cover off a few little bits and pieces that other refiners have left out. 👍👍👍
Mate very exciting cook up, ya done a great job with an awsome end resault, looks like a lot of reseach to get to that point.👏
Thanks Eck!
Like I said a while back, slowly but surely I'm going to keep skilling up. If it's gold related, I want to master it! 🤑. Long ways to go on my refining yet, but its very a noticeable improvement between this one and my first few attempts at it 👍
Great stuff as always! Wouldn't mind more chemical videos even non gold related.
Thanks Rob! I'll keep that in mind. I really enjoy playing around in the lab, so no doubt there will be plenty more interesting chem stuff to do in future 😀
Well done brother that's a great job that little gold button looks beautiful keep getting that shiny
Thanks mate! Bloody stoked with the end result. Certainly my finest gold yet. Cheers for tuning in too!
Another great vid mate, appreciate the detail of the process. Reckon you defo had a home chemistry set for Xams as a kid 🤣
Thanks Ben! In hindsight, I sure with I paid attention in science class. But I certainly didn't 😆. It has only sparked my interest in the last few years seen as its taken a golden tone lol
Nicely done mate. How good does that button look! 😀👍
She's a ripper! I'll have to send the silver button away to be tested also, interested to see how the purity comes up via the silver chloride method. Usually I use the silver nitrate procedure
Nice job
Thanks Peach! Hope you got something out of it. Refining is one of my favourite things to do on a rainy day. Cheers!
Awesome stuff mate, very well done.
Cheers Rob 🍻
Just been told about your you tube channel great stuff mate love our high country im into the history side of gold how the got everything up there how it all worked keep them coming
Thanks Peter! I think our good mate Barber Damo has mentioned mentioned your spark for the gold era history. I love it also, would swap 20 years off my life to get my hands on a time machine and go back 🤩
Ya he a good man recon be good
So now I know how to refine my Gold .............. Just send it to you😄
It's just that easy Jethro 😉. And I only take a 95% cut! 🤣
Man, awesome vid. Do you process other ppls boards or computer scrap at all? I've got some stuff but not sure where to start. I've got some acids and smb and eurea and had a go myself but is has all sat for a couple of years now as I gave up at the time.
I'm currently doing some computer scrap for another fella, still a couple of weeks off completion at least though. Once the video comes out that will give you all the info you need to do your own hopefully!
Hello how can I remove silver from my fine gold? The gold has been xrf test to 97% with 3 % silver. Is there are to smelt the silver out to 9999’s?
G'day Jenko, you can remove the silver quite easily with some chemistry. But it does require some basic equipment. Research "Gold Inquartation" to learn the process. Inquartation is the easiest way to remove your silver, it will involve adding more silver to the mix with a melt, to bring the silver content up to around 75%. Once there is approx that amount of silver in the mix, you can easily dissolve all of the silver off in some hot dilute nitric acid. Leaving just the gold sponge behind. The silver can then also be recovered again with the addition of copper to the waste solution. The copper will replace the silver in the solution slowly, leaving you again with near pure elemental silver in your beaker.
Excellent video Bryan. Have you got a list or links for all of the chemicals that you have used? Perhaps you can do a video on the safe disposal of all of the chemicals that you have used? You certainly must have paid attention during Chemistry classes at school. About the only three chemicals that I am familiar with are Hydrochloric Acid and Borax and sugar.
I often have to buy HA from Bunnings for use in the School Swimming Pool to adjust the chlorine levels and for brick cleaning cement or mortar.
I and no doubt a few others will have to watch this video again numerous times to get familiar with the techniques involved. Thanks again for making this video.
BTW, do you happen to know the chemical(s) involved in dissolving quartz rock to just leave the gold behind?
Mark from Melbourne Australia
Thanks heaps Mark! I dont have links sorry, but i can make a list! Hydrochloric/Muriatic Acid as the holding solution, Nitric acid as the oxidiser, Urea for DeNoxing the finished solution before precipitation if you've used too much Nitric, Sodium Metabisulphite as the precipitation additive (reacts with the Hydrochloric to produce the Sulfur Dioxide gas that makes the gold drop out of solution), Sodium Hydroxide for converting the silver chloride to silver oxide (also the most effective additive for neutralising acidic waste for disposal), standard old sugar for converting the silver oxide to elemental silver.
Stannous chloride is essentially just a heap of elemental tin dissolved (paifuly slowly) in hydrochloric acid, it is used as a reactant with the gold solution to either insure there is gold in solution or ensure you have precipitated all the gold from the solution.
To your quartz question, the most accurate way to slowly dissolve silica and most things other than gold is Hydrofluric acid. It's not something we can purchase concentrated in Australia, but you can buy Alibrite from most auto spares shops and some welding/fabricating shops. Alibrite has a small amount of Hydrofluric in it.
Wear gloves, put your specimens in a PLASTIC container and submerge it in Alibrite. Dispose of the Alibrite every 3 days and replace with new stuff. Continue the procedure until you get your desired end product.
The other (and much more agressive) option is bulk Sodium hydroxide mixed into water. Put into a good quality stainless steel pot/ container and put onto low-medium heat. It's very reactive though, so much harder to control how much gets dissolved and how quickly.
Hope that helps!
Very interesting watch and enjoyed you're narration, thank you
Thanks Sttottos! Glad the narration was OK too, I've got quite a deep voice and it can be pretty tricky sometimes. Thanks heaps for tuning in!
How much do you reckon it cost in chemicals?
No more than a few dollars Alec. All of them are very cheap. The E Waste refine ill be doing soon will be using quite a bit of chemicals though, will be interesting to do the math on that.
Name a more iconic duo:
Australians and not wearing PPE lol
Too true brother! I'm a big believer in common sense personally. Hate safety signs, hate idiotic rules that remove the ability for us to learn the repercussions from our actions!
Mate how does the gold buyer test the purity.
My gold buyer (Grappy$ Gold Buyers) in Vic Australia has an XRF Analyser and a set of lab quality precision scales so he can determine the exact elemental make up of anything sent to him. They're extremely expensive machines on both parts, the XRF especially. I would love an Analyser of my own one day! Better keep mining 😜
Which places you find gold at ?
The ground usually!
Sorry for the blunt answer, but you will get similar from any prospector. 😆
Mate admire ya work, i reckon you're about 3 steps away,,, from putting mice on Mars
The mice on Mars thing is actually coming along well. Elon calls me twice a day to check in on the project 🤣. Thanks Brendan! 👌
Interesting vid very nice ,if the gold doesn't work out you could always cook meth LOL.
My mates often joke about how suspicious the lab in the middle of the bush is 🤣. Will have to get a police visit at some point surely haha.
Where and why are you not wearing gloves? Safe to say ur not wearing googles either 😅
Wearing gloves most of the time, always wearing foam sealed goggles. Gloves are a substantial expense unfortunately!