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Moment of Truth had a Peruvian counterpart here in Perú called 'El Valor de la Verdad', where the first contestant (a young woman) was in a kinda embarassing situation involving adultery to which she wasn't bothered or affected, among the people who were on the side was her boyfriend (or husband, can't remember), the woman ended up winning the prize, only to be murdered days later by her boyfriend/husband. The murder made the show explode in popularity.
I'm an archivist and lost media hunter. I've found and published some "lost media," though none of it was earth shattering, I've found VHS recordings of sporting events that were thought to be lost, etc. Anyway, this video got me thinking about two things. First, i remember watching A Moment of Truth when it came out, and I specifically remember that episode and thinking that television had really sunk to new lows. That's saying a lot, as this was around the time Fear Factor was having people eat disgusting things. Anyway, the first point brings me to the second point, I'm surprised how much lost media is relatively recent, like post-2000. It occurred to me that I might be in possession of lost media from the early days of the internet as I used to download and save hundreds videos from FTP and P2P sites in the late 90s and early 2000s. I have whole DVDs loaded with 9/11 footage that i downloaded from Kazaa and Napster. It just shocks me how much of this lost media is "new." In the early 2000s, I basically never considered that lost media would be an ongoing problem, i thought it was over with the dawn of the digital era.
How about the TV-Show "John Doe"? You can't get that anywhere. Must have been 2002 or something. With Dominic Purcell, nonetheless. Great show. From what I can remember.
Thing is, the dawn of the Internet is basically the dawn of unanimous communication, so lost media is easier to spread awareness and solve than ever before.
The "polygamist community" that Melanie grew up in was an FLDS mormon community, an offshoot of mormonism that has little to do with the church of the laterday saints (modern mormonism, essentially). Moment of Truth probably didnt mention that for fear of legal repercussions from either FLDS or LDS, but FLDS is a current and active cult that still opperates today and its important to know what it is and its prevalence. FLDS groups are unfortunately not as uncommon as you think and pedophilia and incest are common practices within them. Also, I'll get absolutely flamed by every mormon reading this for mentiong this, but "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer goes into detail about a famous homocide case involving FLDS and its a super intriguing, horrifying read.
Thank you for naming them. When I heard "Polygamist" over and over I thought this was just gonna be some old-timey shaming situation that went badly. I was very confused until making a wild guess it was mormons. Since modern polygamy is as opposed to mormonism as it gets. Thank you for confirming and giving more info. Definitely irksome that Jorge pulled unrelated people into this grouping by not using the proper name for them.
Interesting Fact: One of the most famous video clips of 9/11 (I sadly can't remember which one) was apparently filmed by Sam Riegel, the voice actor of Phoenix Wright.
I'm German, and decided to look into the "Teddybear man" case a little. As you mentioned, there was a woman who claimed to have seen a Talkshow in 1988 about a mother who was searching for her son. I looked it up but only found this (ua-cam.com/video/9akjVYNs5RI/v-deo.html) german video about a mother who's son dissappeared in 1982. She was unclear of his whereabouts for 34 years, but the show actually found out where he lived and reunited them. Turns out he ran away because of his dad emotionally abusing him. By the time of the supposed talk show in 1988, the son was already missing for 6 years. Maybe she was on that Talkshow? I didn't find much else on a quick look.
I think it could have been a d3ug add!ct and when he was going to buy D3ugs and he froze to death on his way to the D3ug dealer and the teddy bear was a smuggling device but its head has been opened and closed again ? to store D3ugs ? Just my Theory
@Sea-cadet2838 Hi. Professional teddy-bear maker here (hence my name). Those repairs are not consistent with what would be done to place an object inside a teddy bear. (I do this sometimes on custom memorial jobs, usually with locks of a loved one's hair, scraps of clothing, a little bag of earth from a garden or grave, etc.) It's the center back seam that would be opened up, not the neck. That seam is bigger and more accessible, and also easier to stitch back up. Repairs to the head and neck are common on bears that have been played with roughly by children, often over many years. They kiss their bears, try to pose their heads, carry them by the ears, etc. That bear looks to me like a well-loved childhood bear.
@@Sea-cadet2838man a teddy bear on a grown man is the wordy idea to put drugs in to smuggle lol what’s this dude doing out here with a teddy bear , lol sewn back up multiple times hahahha he’s busted immediately lol
About the German man: From 92-98 there was a show called "Bitte melde dich!" (Please get in touch!) with its host Joerg Wontorra. It was a show where ppl told their story about missing family members. Maybe the other guy got it mixed up with "Fliege", who is a (TV-)pastor and normally had more philosophical/religious/social themes in his show. Fliege and Wontorra don't look too different from each other, when there's 25 years between then and now the guy remembering it. Also their first names "Jörg/Joerg" and "Jürgen/Juergen" are not too far from each other in writing and sound.
Yeah, Fliege was more a TalkShow focused on social themes like living with handicapped or deadly ill people. If it was on Fliege then maybe unter the the theme of "how to live on with a loved one missing".
If a camera with pictures taken inside the towers was found in someone's pocket, I would take it to mean that person wanted it to be found and their story known. Keeping it secret defeats that object. I can understand they may be sensitive to the families of anyone else in the pictures, but maybe they wanted their own story 'told' too.
I’m assuming a camera found on a jumper that died jumping from the 70 something floor or higher doesn’t have any film that could be retrieved. But maybe there’s something on there from the inside with him holding a note to his loved ones saying goodbye, and honestly that should be given to their loved ones and is no one else’s business
I dunno man, I feel like the Truth one shouldn't have gotten to the point where they had questions related to this poly community lined up before they realized "Hey wait we should call the cops" if they ever actually did come to that obvious realization. Kinda seems like their priorities were a bit fucked.
The statute of limitations probably ran out by that point. That and a lot of states allow marriage between a minor and adult with the parents’. IIRC, the minimum age can be 11 years old (though it depends on the state) and a few recent news articles about politicians voting against raising the age.
Having seen other people talk about moment of truth, I'm surprised a show made it past the casting phase. Like, I k how people do crazy things for money, but it was like always people with super dark secrets that shouldn't be put on national TV (ar least not for entertainment).
Regarding the "Teddybjørn-mannen" case: The hosts from "Åsted Norge" continued looking into the case in the years following the episode, and extracting a DNA-profile from the remains was eventually made possible. The DNA profile was shown to contain the Y-chromosome, proving that Teddybjørn-mannen was indeed a male. The DNA-profile was then put through a database, and four reference persons (three norwegians and one german) were found. Although these four may be distant family/relation. He was probably of both norwegian and german descent. A request for identification was sent to several countries through Kripos and Interpol. A few countries have since told Kripos through Interpol that they put the DNA-profile through databases. Nothing has showed up so far and his identity remains a mystery for the time being, but these recent steps in the case have been huge and there's still hope that we may one day know who he was.
The second segment makes me want to ask my dad to help me look for my mom's old VCR recordings. For four days after 9/11 she was recording the news all the time on both our TVs (which was quite a rare thing to have at the time). The reason I say so is because it was...I think two days later, there was already a friggin' documentary out about it while the ruins were still smoking. And there was footage from the parking garage under the Towers, during the attack. My mom sent me out of the room when I asked her if the thudding sound in the video was explosions and she realized--and told me many years later, as an adult--that no, it wasn't explosions. That was the jumpers hitting the ground above the parking garage. It's absolutely horrifying footage, and I can't imagine many people saved it for that reason. But if my mom's VHS collection is still in the garage, and the tapes still work...we still have it.
hey man, just letting you know that OP of the soviet tipofmytongue post marked it as solved and personally reached out to me saying it's the story they remember! so the creepypasta they read isn't lost, but there very well might be another one inspired by the 4chan post. it is however also the story that inspired the GOC, Kain confirmed it for me. made a video on it a month or so ago about the whole story. just wanted to clear that up thanks :)
@@ChocolateShaddixX thank you, i'm happy to hear you've enjoyed my videos so far! and yeah it was great for at least part of the lost creepypasta mystery to be solved after so long
Finding a teddy bear with the male body is so sad for some reason. Maybe they had it to remember their family? Idk there is just a component of innocence to them that makes their death so tragic. Anyone who has sentimentality towards stuff like that is a gentle soul as they were fond of their family, Maybe they somehow got separated? I hope we can know one day
I really felt it when he said it had been repaired multiple times. I have a stuffed elephant that I’ve had since I was born 20 years ago and I literally have had to fix it millions of times. Not to be depressing but I hope when I die I still have it with me
@@bluejayway19 whatever makes you feel most comfortable. People need points of familiarity in a terrifying world. Whether it be a cross or a teddy bear that's been repaired multiple times.
Something bittersweet about that man dying alone but at least having his beloved teddy bear with him. Hopefully they manage to identify him and they can return the bear to the family or relatives so it can be preserved
Soviets/red army were very against religion of any kind so I can kind of imagine it being some kind of a satire written by people occupied by them. Wonder if it was something like this and not just a creepypasta
@@Jhud69 They weren't against religion, they just opposed religion-based subjugation and took separation of church and state seriously. The narrative that they were like Redditor atheists comes mostly from the US, which was (and still is tbh) very pro-theocracy. Remember that this was the 1900s where Americans were using God to justify school prayers, turning all women into housewives, segregating black people, etc.
I'm one of those persons who seek out these 9-11 clips. I've done it ever since youtube began. It's not about morbid curiosity. It's merely about the fact that I remember that day vividly, and it feels like it never really ended. I'm just stuck with the memory, and I think I can normalize the memory by revisiting it. Sort of trying to even out the darkness. Pretty sure many others like me are trying to revisit the whole ordeal from as many angles as possible, for the same reasons.
Melanie is absolutely courageous for going on a TV program to expose the abuses her father and the community put her through. I hope wherever she is now, she has found peace and healing in her life.
german native here; the show they're looking for is most likely "Aktenzeichen xy ungelöst". I think "Fliege" was more of an entertainment show, while "Aktenzeichen" is/was also more of a true crime and recent missing person cases. It may be hard to find and episode around the 90s, as those haven't been digitized and/or archived :/
An in depth XY archive is available … extensive list of episodes with all cases and outcome … those talk-shows also dealt with the topic of people vanishing suddenly now and again! This says nothing. And … German TV channels tell you nothing found in archive despite it is actually confirmed they aired it and you got the title. So could still be Fliege!
When I was 24 years old I worked as a personal assistant for a man who owned realty in different states. He collected things that represented peoples final moments alive. Videos in all sorts of formats of corpses, people dying in hospital beds taking their last breaths, suicides etc. there was something sickening about being in that room. After two years of working with him I got used to it but he fired me a few weeks after my 2 year anniversary. Seeing this video and especially the grainy style ones like the twin tower vid reminded me a lot of the videos he would have playing in the background in his office.
Ricky Rodriguez's life and death was such a terrible tragedy if you look into it. He was a good, empathetic soul that wanted to stop the pain and suffering he'd endured from happening to other children the only way he could figure out. He killed himself because even after the terrible, horrid things that nanny, his mother, and the rest of the cult did to him, he still couldn't handle the guilt of taking the nanny's life. The members of that awful, horrid cult deserved so much worse than they got.
I've been down this rabbit hole for three years and Ricky's story breaks my heart every time. I never knew him but I feel a grief every time I see or hear his name mentioned, he deserved a better childhood, a better life and a better fate. His "mother" Karen Zerby is the leader of the cult and she is somehow still a free woman to this day. As is Sara Kelley, the main woman who obliterated his innocence.
My heart aches for him and all of those poor babies/kids/teens who had to endure ab*se at the hands of the cult. Not a religious person but those who hurt them will never see heaven.
I imagine there's probably a quite a few "home movies" of 9/11 that have never seen the light of day. Millions of people live in that area, and it's possible many of them filmed the towers from whatever perspective they had, and just never uploaded it to the internet; especially when you consider that taking something recorded on a camcorder, and uploading it, wasn't necessarily easy for everyone to do
Yeah, there was no UA-cam, there was no easy convinient place to upload videos to the Internet, there was no easy convinient way to convert camcorder tapes into a digital format on a computer too. The only way you could really upload videos to the Internet back then was to pay for a domain name for a website and pay to host video files on there, which was extremely expensive to do because videos were very big files in an era where download speeds were incredibly slow. Normally what we used to do was start a download of a video right before bed, go to sleeo while leaving it on overnight to download, wake up the next morning and go and check if it's finished (normally if hadn't, so you then had to leave it on while you went to school/work and hope it had finally finished before you got back home). And half the time the download would mysteriously fail halfway through, so you'd have to restart the entire download all over again. And because herd drives were so incredibly tiny (like 10 GB), you couldn't ever have multiple videos downloaded at the same time, you had to burn it to a CD and then delete it off your computer.
If a 9/11 jumper had a disposable camera in his pocket w photos from inside the tower on that day, it’s likely he had the camera in his desk and he brought it out to take photos, knowing what was happening and that he had no chance of escaping. He then jumped - not just to save himself from a worse fate (potentially trapped in rubble, in agony for hours or days) but, most likely to save the footage from the disaster so it would be seen and people would know what they went through. Perhaps to be used in the court proceedings but, certainly to be SEEN.
I really hope the full thing gets found. It sounds like something that could be either genuinely fascinating and terrifying, or hilariously stupid, all depending on the execution
incase I am unable to post the link again the video I got it from is called "The 10-Year Search for a Lost Creepypasta" the link is shown at 17:10 it could be that links are blocked from being posted to stop from spam bots flooding the comments
the whole 9/11 topic reminds me of something interesting thats always stuck around in my mind: the sleepycast black tuesday tape. basically sleepycast was a podcast of these newgrounds guys who would all get together and talk about stupid stuff. one of the guys on there, mick, told the story of how he witnessed 9/11. part of this story included how he recorded a tape labeled "black tuesday", where he sifted through every FM radio station during the attacks. to my knowledge, hes never released this tape and theres only one post about it on the sleepycabin subreddit
I can hopefully help shed some light on the Children of God / The Family International section. My partner grew up in The Family International (and personally knew both Ricky Rodriguez and Karen Zerby), and remembers the animations listed at the end of that section like The Luvvets, Life with Grandpa, and Treasure Attic. However, she doesn't remember any TV show shown within TFI that had a sheep as the main character. She believes that the OP in the thread is remembering their past incorrectly (likely due to the abuse, which definitely *was* real), and is actually thinking of the music videos from Treasure Attic. They produced a song called "Snowflake" about a sheep which was very popular, and the very name 'Snowflake' was used as a pejorative within TFI long before it was in the rest of the world. As for the part about the boy "giving his body to the church", it's possible that was another corrupted memory from the Treasure Attic music video "Wolf Wolf", wherein a young boy lays in a field and waves in a sexually suggestive way. "Snowflake": ua-cam.com/video/wLnIYAtGs0M/v-deo.html "Wolf Wolf": ua-cam.com/video/VyNssZL1hHs/v-deo.html Treasure Attic had several clips with puppets, several clips with animations, and numerous clips featuring Jesus, so it's possible that the combined 'Treasure Attic viewing experience' constitutes what the OP is describing.
ik your comment is old but i watched the songs u linked and its really disturbing to me that they’re on youtube kids. i wonder if the people in charge (of YT) know that there’s literally cult material on yt kids? lol
25:44 I just love how the 4chan forums are able to talk about the most serious & spooky topics with a picture of Cranky Kong swearing as the start of the thread, takes all the fear away.
11:50 that’s incorrect. There’s actually 4 videos of the first plane. The Naudet footage, the WNYW footage (doesn’t show the plane itself, but shows up close footage where you can see the impact of the shockwave and people’s immediate reactions to it), the Wolfgang footage and the one taken on a Brooklyn highway mentioned here. There was also a webcam from inside tower 2 that was recording at the time of the first impact, but it’s framerate is so slow that you only really see the before and after, just minutes apart.
@@GanymedeXD it shows the before, the shockwave, the smoke cloud from it and people’s initial reaction. Just because it doesn’t capture the plane visually doesn’t mean nothing is in it.
I hope Melanie took the money and cut all her ties to her family, safe in the knowledge that they will never again hurt her, as I hope for all children who suffer abuse from their parents.
I remember the footage of the jumpers from 9/11. I feel like it was a news clip that was shown the day of but never aired again. My older brother still brings it up randomly because he vividly remembers it. I just remember the footage looked like it was from inside the lobby looking out. My brother specifically remembers the sound of those poor people hitting the ground, says it sounded like grenades going off 😢
Has nothing to do with the ine in the video. This one is a documentary filmed by 2 guys that made a documentary about a fire brigade. It did not show anything. The LOL Superman one is an alleged shock video showing them pop when they smashed into the concrete.
@@GanymedeXD It seems the documentary one is another shock video which is called skylight.mov, people think they cropped the jumper part out from the released documentary
I’ve actually seen the 9/11 footage of the guy filming in the car when the plane hit the first tower for many years now. It was uploaded sometime in the last decade. Unfortunately the footage I’ve seen, the aspect ratio isn’t the original 4:3, but has been stretched to 16:9 since people think it’s best to stretch the original ratio despite doing so not only cut off part of the image as well will make the image look fairly bad as the quality isn’t as clear as it originally looked. Now I know this probably means nothing to people, but I’ve often found it to be unnecessary to stretch an a video that wasn’t originally 16:9 just so it’ll fit the standard aspect ratio of today as quality is lost as well as parts of the image either are lost as well or doesn’t look right anymore.
People are dumb and don't understand resolutions and aspect ratios. I worked editing photos and I got a lot of times the "Designers" (in name only) would stretch the damn photos. Pissed me off so much.
My heart dropped when I realized that animation came from the Children of God. The Phoenix family was indoctrinated into that cult before River and Joaquin were actors, and John Frusciante of Red Hot Chili Peppers fame, who was very close to River, credits his cause of death to the things that happened to him there. He may have been the one that took the drugs and overdosed, but what was he running from? What pain was he trying to numb? And who knows how many others' lives were ruined...
I think I saw LOL Superman around 2014 on LiveLeak. I was 13 and I just started to discover the "other" parts of the internet. The video was like 30 or so seconds long, and it showed the bodies of several jumpers on the ground, but there were people who were just hitting the ground during the video. I remember that video really hit me, and was traumatized for a while. Though I am not 100% sure that this video was LOL Superman, because probably there was plenty of videos of the jumpers hitting the ground.
There is only 2 non lost videos of jumpers hitting the ground one of which was the rosbrook footage and I have to ask if it was recorded on ground or like from a higher view
the 9/11 subject reminds me of the time i found a random vhs tape in a public trash can, it was unlabelled so i got curious and took it home. it was a recording of live tv coverage of the incident, except it was an american tv station and i’m in australia. i still wonder who recorded it, moved overseas and just dumped it in a random trash bin rather than their own wheelie bin. anyway, definitely makes me think unseen 9/11 footage can still be uncovered, even in the most random of places
@Aperture2they didn't say they dumped it, they were referring to the fact that whoever owned the VHS must have brought it to Australia and then thrown it out in a public bin for them to find
I am really interested in forum posts from day of 9/11. I recommend looking at the newgrounds forums, it's fascinating to see what people were thinking and saying, and last I looked some photos were posted as well. Ones I've never seen anywhere else
I remember when I was a kid around 2008-2011 there were 3 youtube auto-fill searches that creeped me out about 9/11. "9/11 Jumpers taking clothes off" "It's raining men 9/11" "I believe I can fly 9/11" I don't know wtf kind of videos those were, if they even existed, or what the heck people were searching that caused those auto search bar recommendations to trend at the time, but I'm happy I didn't press enter.
i actually remember a kid at my after school program showing people a 9/11 suicide video and he was going to show it to me but at the time i choose to push it away from him, in hindsight now i wish i watched it or even remember who this kid was.
I never get tired of Jorge's videos, his narration is so captivating and the topics he chooses are very interesting, I had never heard of that truth TV show and that lady's story, all respect for her for surviving such a terrible life up to that point.
re: the image in the "God is dead" creepypasta. the image is from the "Maaselkä cannibalism" report in 1942, Finnish forces found a camp of Russian soldiers who, abandoned by the russian army, had been left to die in the elements as they weren't worth rescuing. One of their members broke their leg, so they decided to butcher him. The photo is of the Finnish soldiers holding up a large skin while organs are draped over a tree branch in the background. You can google it if you want to see it. however, the truth is that the story was made up by the finnish soldier to be propaganda. In reality, the skin belonged to a moose the russian soldiers killed and ate, and there was no cannibalism involved.
"102 Minutes That Changed America" is an incredible documentary about 9/11. It is composed of only amateur footage and it happens in real time, from the first strike to the collapse of the towers.
There was some live footage on 911 from the lobby where you hear the fireman talking. You can hear them explaining to other fireman that those horrible bangs were people hitting the ground. I don't remember hearing any music, but there were a few seconds hear and there that did show them falling and just going out of sight before they hit. It still rattles me thinking about it.
i think thats the Naudet Brothers footage they're inside the lobby and you can hear a bunch of loud sounds of people hitting the ground in that same video you can see the first plane hit and you can also see the south tower collapsing from inside the north tower lobby
Man, 9/11 still feels surreal to think about sometimes. I will never forget that day, but it kind of feels like it wasn't real at the same time. Memories are weird, man
that's because it was manufactured and planned by the bush administration from the get go. the death and misery is very real, but it wasn't a straightforward terrorist attack
Two airplanes crashing into a skyscraper in the middle of New York is something out of an action film, but it happened in real life. I don't plane people for never moving on from something traumatic like that.
I remeber hearing about it as I was leaving school, I live in the uk and even then, I remember the atmosphere being unlike anything I had ever experienced before. I was around 7 years old, but I recall it being the moment where my parents had to try and explain terrorism to me, without making me a nervous wreck. A few years later, we had the 7/7 bombings, so I think more people over here were mentally prepared to deal with the chaos.
The show is staged. I mean some "contestants" are better actors than others, but sometimes the questions are obviously rigged, or the reactions obviously acted out. Maybe some episodes are more real than others, maybe Melanie's story is real. If so, I agree with you. But a good dose of skepticism is also healthy here.
It was a comment under a 9/11 mockery video where a low quality PNG of superman catches s jumper. The more possible title that some viewers said was called "Man turns into jam" which would fit the criteria of the edgy titles of shock videos in late 2000s and early 2010s such as "1 man 1 jar" "2 girls 1 cup" or even "3 dudes 1 hammer"
I was born and raised in Utah and a member of the LDS church. Melanie came from the FLDS in case anyone was wondering. I went to school with some of the kids that escaped from the polygamist community. They are in Colorado City, Arizona. I’ve driven past it before, and it gives off weird and creepy feeling. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask
@@pegasusactua2985 I’m not sure about the locals unaffiliated with the group in Colorado City, but when the polygamists do come into Utah to shop, eat, or get groceries and supplies, they just keep to themselves or just give you the dirty looks. But us locals in Utah would just mind our own business. There’s quite a few documentaries about them and their leader, Warren Jeffs, if you have any more questions about them. And for who Warren Jeffs is, imagine Slenderman with hair, and glasses but his pics are on the internet
So the family international used to be called children of god. In an interview about her book unCultured, Daniella Mestyanek Young, a survivor of the cult, talks about a children’s TV show similar to the one in the Reddit post. She also claims to have been used as a child actor for some of the media produced by the cult. Perhaps someone could reach out to her to see if she can provide any information about the show.
Not sure if you'll see this Jorge, but I just finished watching every single video currently up on your channel, and wanted to inform you that you're now in my top 5 favorite UA-camrs. Everytime you post anything, it just gets me excited for all the mystery surrounding anything new you offer. Thanks for many memories and take care!
There's two videos of Jumpers hitting the ground on youtube : Guy Rosbrook's Hotel footage and a 9/11 Nist video of a guy hitting a lamppost. The hotel one is pretty messed up and it's probably more graphic than "lol superman" considering it's enhanced to 4k. 14 minutes in, this poor guy clear as day smashes through the musical stage roof while you can hear his impact and the people in the other hotel rooms screaming as they witness it. This video will definitely cure your morbid curiosity if you want to know what happens to jumpers after a terminal velocity fall. It's sad to watch and i'm actually shocked this video has survived on UA-cam this long.
I thankfully did NOT grow up with the Children of God/The Family International, but my heart goes out to anyone and everyone who has. I’ve been down the rabbit hole for three years and the stories of the second generation especially are heartbreaking and horrifying. Especially with what happened to Ricky Rodriguez. His mother Karen Zerby is the cult’s leader and she’s somehow still a free woman to this day.
My partner and her entire family grew up in The Family International, and knew both Rodriguez and Zerby personally. She has 11 brothers and sisters, and several of the them got raped as children. I still resent her parents somewhat for allowing that to happen to them, but it's not their fault - they're good people. They just got manipulated into thinking that Zerby was able to solve all of their problems. Fortunately everyone in my partner's family managed to escape, but they lost many friends in doing so, and have a few mental health issues and developmental issues to this day. Most of them have risen above it though, and have very good jobs along with good social circles. So it's definitely possible to come out of it and lead a full life, if that's of any solace.
I have family members who were affiliated with that “church” and it makes me physically ill knowing they were involved in it, especially my cousins who grew up in that sick community. Their parents were estranged from my family for decades and I met them twice as an adult. I had no idea at the time about the cult and they seemed like nice normal people. I find it difficult to reconcile the people I met with the monsters who preyed on children. I believe I still have cousins involved in the family but as they live overseas and I have no contact with them I can’t be sure.
Man that "lol superman" thing got me consuming all kinds of media and news reports from that day for like two hours. I'm 22 and I knew of 911 and everything, but I had never actually watched any footage of it and now I understand why the US is so paranoid. What I don't understand is why someone would wanna see footage like "lol superman", or all those memes about planes hitting the twin towers, like I know dark humour is a thing and I've never found them funny but now I truly despise people who make those kinda jokes, maybe I'm just shocked.
It is weird to me to see younger people make 9/11 jokes. Like, I understand why my peers did it. We were dealing with the trauma. What are y'all dealing with? 😂
Rest in peace, Ricky Rodriguez. I can empathize with him so much, with his mother being a cult leader who allowed the nannies and other women to abuse him. Though I wasn't raised in a cult, I was raised by an abusive mother who would pass me around to other women when I was a child. Ricky wasn't a murderer; people like his nanny Angela Smith and his mother Karen Zerby are a danger to society
@Raye 💖 " A couple guests who failed the test even got convicted." I'm not sure how true this is exactly, polygraphs cannot be used in a court of law, or as evidence of a crime. Since 1998.
The LOLSuperman segment makes me think of the FOIA request to the FBI pointing out it's in the middle of an investigative file. I feel that even more than 20 years later 9/11 is still being considered an open investigation, long after the 9/11 commission report. It was such a colossal event in American history it will take a minimum of a century to no longer be investigated in some way.
It also might be easier for them to just classify us as “open” to prevent the clips from getting leaked, rather than telling people they won’t release it for moral reasons.
the family is truly one of the most disgusting and disturbing cults I've ever come across and the fact that they're still pretty much just as active as they have been since the 60s is baffling. i fully believe that cartoon is something they would make, but the chances of it being found are low since, like you said, they've been doing a frustratingly good job getting rid of their darker material since the Ricky Rodriguez case.
I'm sure some people saved those VHS tapes in secret due to some sort of warped sentimental attachment or nostalgia. You'd be surprised by what kinds of things people hold onto from their childhood.
I live in the same city as that girl in the beginning segment, and it made my jaw drop when I heard it. I’m already aware of all the polygamy that goes on because I regularly see the polygamists when we go grocery shopping. It’s just really unnerving to be reminded that this sickening stuff goes on so close to where I am. I hope that that girl is okay, wherever she is now. I can’t even imagine how traumatizing growing up in that culture would be like.
@@YinYang333 i think its small isolated communities around the south utah border between arizona, most people don't take the FLDS seriously, i sure don't, and i'm a LDS member. it's sickening and unfortunate that there are people that still are in those communities, when i see someone leave it, i'm glad they escape it, and don't look back.
Really good video Jorge. I want to make a quick correction though. The video shown at 11:42 is not new footage. It was filmed by a Czech man named Pavel Hlava and has been publicly available for over 21 years. He had been working in New York prior to and the day of the attacks and caught both planes impacting the towers. The first clip was also nearly erased by his son by mistake. It was first shown publicly during a special ABC news broadcast on the first anniversary of 9/11 in 2002. Oddly though, despite being available for so many years, it's rarely mentioned or shown anywhere online. The raw footage was only made public a few years back.
I've never felt as much chils running through my spine as when the picture used in the soviet creepypasta was described. I remember the picture vividly and the whole time I was going: "It can't be THAT picture, can it?"
Both Nexpo's _Darkest Lost Media_ and this video show how there is lost media out there that is so disturbing that you have to wonder, "Is it better that it stays lost?" The _Moment of Truth_ episode does need to be found. More must learn of these disturbing pasts
Regarding 9/11, will you, by any chance, do a video on Sneha Anne Philip? She's an Indian physician who went missing the day before 9/11, and is believed to have died in the attacks. However, it remains unclear as to whether she died as a result of 9/11, and a lotta questions remain. It's an incredibly enduring mystery, and honestly kinda sad too
I've never heard of that Children of God cult before, but as soon as I heard that crap about "God's love" my immediate thought was "This is a sex thing. Probably involving children. Aaaand, I was unfortunately right.
To be fair, cults almost always are. I think most people would think that as soon as they hear about any cult. Cultists are weirdos who use the 'cult' as an excuse for something else they want to do - usually involving sex and control.
I have seen the “lol Superman” many times. It wasn’t shot outside the trade centers it was filmed inside a smaller building below the towers. It was filled with glass breaking and screams . It was from a larger clip that used to circulate that showed about five people falling to their deaths. If anyone needs infor I can fill in the blanks I can describe the video well as I remember it very well. There were copies of it on UA-cam all the way up to the tenth anniversary in 2011. (That’s the last time I seen it ) it almost looked like a 90s mall with white tiles and large plants everywhere. Very sunny and clear and it was vhs quality with the time and date on the bottom and at the end it said the person who filmed it survived. Which means there has to be a hard copy of the full footage. I bet if you looked up survivors of the surrounding buildings you could get some leads .
@@Flixxy0 wow! I’ve never seen that footage you sent! Very cool . That’s not the video I’m speaking of, but it is very similar . The one I remember didn’t have the tracking noise but the environment looks similar except the Superman one was better lit and had plants everywhere . I also remember a woman with short hair and a white sweatshirt in the frame at one point and a security guard helping people out in the longer footage. Also the person filming at one point leaves some kind of threshold or doorway and points the camera at one of the towers and tries to zoom in on a window but it doesn’t focus. What I remember most is the quality of the footage. It was a lot clearer then a lot of the other 911 footage I had seen at the time. I do remember another rip of the “ lol superman” segment that someone re uploaded with like really unbalanced looney tune sound effects and an intro with their UA-cam name.
Also it should be said I’m not an expert on 9-11 I’m just a millinial that spent ALOT of time on early UA-cam. But 100% there was a video called “lol superman” that showed jumpers. I have no dog in this fight but I had a “hold my beer moment “ when I heard him say that some believe it was never a thing. I will say that image he put in the video (the screenshot) that was debunked, did look like it matched the part when the person fuming went through the doorway/threshold and passes the guard in black.
I believe that Lol Superman exists but I think it’s definitely possible that people are misremembering and combining both Jack Taliercio’s and Guy Rosbrook’s footage.
It does not exist … it allegedly shows gory scenes of the jumpers landing and popping on the concrete! There have never been gore scenes of jumpers landing. Otherwise they had surfaced on any of the gore pages … none every did … and all pictures were fake … took ages for authentic to surface.
I swear I remember watching a video by that title back around 2010. But it didn't show gore or I would definitely remember that. I think everyone is misremembering how gory it would've been
Yeah, was going to comment that I remember seeing something that looks like it labeled something like "The Jumpers" but I think it might have been a compliation of possibly unconnected suicide footage stitched with Taliercio’s. It wasn't Rosbrook’s because it was filmed from the ground for sure.
Fun fact about teddy: the tv series that was shown, is called (directly translated) Crime scene Norway. And the young man talking is a well known ski athlete and is now banned from competing due to him being addicted to coke.
I remember being in health class and my teacher telling us that the day 9/11 happened, (before he was a health teacher he was actually a teacher for inmates?) everybody just stood there and watched, class was cancelled that day. Everybody stood there in horror at what was happening. The day that 9/11 happened I truly believe it was a day of silence, thats how shocking it was. 9/11 is the saddest event that has ever happened in my eyes and everytime I see footage of it it’s so gut wrenching to the point that I have to look away or Ill have nightmares. Those jumpers did not commit suicide, they were murdered.
That’s actually to me the most disturbing story I’ve heard so far… Being someone who loves God I do agree it’ is upmost surely an illogical story.. very scary to me :😢
It makes it creepier to me. The idea that god had no strength anymore and had zero way to defend itself against simple bullets for whatever reason is very unsettling. There's also the image that went with the story that makes it even worse.
and not just ANY eternal and omnipotent being, Killing an Eternal and Omnipotent being that just so happened to create the UNIVERSE with rifles and a few T-54 Shells
The first story is very interesting to me. I am very proud of Melanie for speaking up about her abusive parents and community on TV, even while her family is present, and making a lot of money through it too. That takes so much courage. I hope she lives a better life now. It is a shame that, due to it being lost media, there could be way more people living in similar situations who would have needed to see this recording to be empowered by it.
At least Blameitonjorge has made its existence known to the viewers through this video. Even though they might never hear it from Melanie herself they at least can hear it from Jorge as he is describing and reading what Melanie said. That's the closest to empowerment in my opinion.
@@masterBong1 Nothing wrong with getting money through it? It's still brave though. Her abusive family is right there with her. Don't act like it's not a big deal to speak up just because there is money involved. What shallow thinking.
"I know lie detectors are reliable" Maybe in the movies, but in reality they're a bunch of bunkum. The wikipedia article alone is mostly about how they're not a "lie detector", so much as they are a tool for intimidation/interrogation.
For a very long time film and media preservation wasn't taken seriously if at all. Film was seen as a gimmick and a novelty for many years and was seen only for its profits not for preserving the work for future generations. Most of the early examples of cinema are gone forever due to vault fires (with George Melies even burning his own films out of shame). I think the most notable example of this is the BBCs issue with lost doctor who episodes. When Doctor Who first aired, BBC had no expectations for if it would succeed on television, let alone on home video. By the time they were pushing the series out on vhs, they became aware that most of the older episodes they had wiped in favor of new ones. Lost media as it is largely stems from the fact that the exact media it preserves wasn't taken seriously for decades, if not the past century.
Media preservation wasn’t taken seriously for a long time. It was cheaper for TV studios to recycle their tape and record over existing footage in the pre-digital age, and many films were made on stock that wasn’t particularly kind to aging or improper storage. It also has a lot to do with the type of media: a film or a TV show could be on a master tape that’s shoved in a vault, and it’s lost because nobody in that studio has bothered to look for it because there’s no profit in it. Something like a video game beta could be stuck on an old hard drive that was taken out from a computer and hasn’t been touched in years.
Because it’s inevitable. Like anything in the world, people lose things, even things that shouldn’t be lost. Some however, I think, deserve to be lost for good
@@SpongeBobbin34 Jorge's lost media iceberg video had a lot of that. Like sure it's an interesting story but some of that stuff I pray is never released. Like Christine Chubbuck or anything related to Columbine.
I’ve gone down the CoG/Family International rabbit hole countless times over the last several years, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the redditor is correctly remembering a lost CoG show. They made a LOT of their own media (with some whole communes dedicated to creating it)! They were super music focused, and they still create and post children’s music videos in current times. Basically all media they consumed would be in-house, since they are/were forbidden from engaging with “The System” (outside society). The media from the og leader’s time was incredibly sexual, and encouraged csa, so there have been periods of self purging and censorship of the content to hide it from authorities. Iirc, there was a whole protocol set for destroying it if you thought your home was going to be check up on by authorities. Although there’s been an effort from CoG survivors to document the cult’s media, there’s absolutely stuff that was wiped out in the purges or lost to time as they tried to clean up their image Oddly enough, I think I’ve heard of the show the op is talking about. I SWEAR a few years back on tumblr, there was a goofy gif of a lamb puppet going around, bc it was laughably pathetic, trying to run in the dark/a storm and falling. And I remember a reblogger adding context to it, explaining that it was made by CoG, and then the version of the post with the addition circled around. I’ll have to do some googling. Tumblr’s search system is infamously unreliable, and the blog I used then was most likely one of my old, deleted accounts. Hm. EDIT: after some poking around, found it. Looks like the gif was from Treasure Attic, which I think was one of the ruled out CoG shows
I've been down the CoG/TFI rabbit hole myself for three years now and the horror of it still stuns me to this day. Ricky's story always breaks my heart, I can't even begin to process or describe what a tragedy his entire existence was. Karen Zerby (his "mother") and Sara Kelley (the woman who hurt him the most when he was little) are currently at large and both free women to this day. The whole thing is just mind-melting in how shocking, disturbing, tragic and infuriating it is.
That cult was very focused on the arts like many New Age cults of its time. Some of its former members include Rose McGowan, River Phoenix, and Joaquin Phoenix.
Oooh I'm gonna watch this now see if I can remember it ...I knew LOTS of media but some of it was forbidden to me because I dropped to FM around 1990, even as a 7 year old.
@@sachinmistry1 it's not tied to COG it is COG! I can probably recite many lyrics / sing any song from there. Trivia....the toy guns used by the "antichrist forces" chasing the "saved" through the woods during the tribulation. The barcode scanners were one of the new biggest "signs of the end" around that time...and I guess the "threatening" humanoid appearing robots that terrified those looking out for the beast of revelation and the antichrist with 666 in his forehead.
I feel terrible for the women and children in both of those religious cults. What a harrowing story. I hope both Melanie Williams and the OP who wrote about the sheep puppet show are in a better place and doing well today. Thank you for your work as always, Jorgé. Your hard work and dedication does not go unnoticed.
Yes the children are the victims. In the Children of God cult, a lot of the women abused the children just as badly as the men did. Ricky Rodriguez's mother and his nannies were his primary abusers
@@RazorFriendly exactly. Not to mention, Ricky Rodriguez's mother is the leader and is free to this day and the nanny was a woman as well. They were perpetrators of abuse, yet people would be quick to lump them with the victims simply for the fact that they are women. Do better Nicole.
The manscaped sponsor being shown as a "pallet cleanser" after you talked about 9/11 and showed a man jumping off a building was some true black mirror stuff 😭 Could you not have put it at the beginning?
Totally agree on not going out of the way to find the so-called "LOL Superman" video - some things, even when they are just a rumor, are best kept in the unknown. To paraphrase a line from Wes Craven's New Nightmare: sometimes "It's what we don't see that gets us through the night."
The teddy bear case is definitely interesting to me as a German, unfortunately I never saw the talkshow. Maybe I'll take a deeper look into the topic tomorrow
Kann es sein,dass die Episode einfach nicht auffindbar ist, weil sie nicht archiviert worden ist. Denn die Öffentlich rechtlichen, Archivieren (zumindest damals) ja ihre eignen Produktionen kaum.
@@marcovossenkaul8921 Es kann natürlich sein, es gab viele Fälle wo lost media nicht aufgefunden wurde, aber extra mal zu recherchieren schadet nicht, vielleicht findet es ja jemand doch...
@@relinquiem wäre aufjedenfall nice, alleine damit dieser Cold Case endlich geschlossen wird. Btw cool, dass es auch deutschsprachige interessanten am lost media gibt.
@@marcovossenkaul8921 ich finde es schon echt selten dass deutsche allein was englisches gucken, da stimme ich dir zu. Leider ist unser UA-cam komplett anders und mit billigkanälen überfüllt, deshalb gucke ich nur fremdsprächige youtuber, aus meinem freundeskreis interessiert sich keiner für lost media u.s.w. und sie gucken sich stattdessen immer wie montanablack 300.000€ wegschmeisst oder so ;(
That "The momenth of Truth" reminds me of a similar program that was done here on Peru, called "El valor de la verdad" ("The price of Truth" translated literally). The dynamic was the same : A contestant who had previously gone through a polygraph test, makes it through different questions about him/herself , with the intimacy of the questions scalating one by one, so increasing the price you get. The thing is, for the first episode, they choose someone from the casting , which was a Open to all public. The chosen one was a Woman of only 18 years old , who revealed a lot about her past , her ex relationships, and also about having to rely on prostitution for living. Just some months later, on September 2012, that same Woman was found dead, murdered by her ex partner. Since that, the program was re worked, and now , all guests are celebrities / famous people from the national media, to avoid this type of controversies again.
The 9/11 footage I was about 11 years old and remember watching raw live footage of news reporters trying to report while you could hear bodies hitting the ground around them and people running away in a panic. Saw a lot live on tv that day and doubt much if any of it will ever be seen again
I hadn't heard about the LOL Superman lost media but from its description I can say that I definitely did see a video like the one described back in the day. I remember how the bodies would grotesquely splash and produce this hard slapping sound as they hit the floor.
Jorge, I first watched moment of truth when I was younger, in a channel called MBC. It is an Arab based broadcast that has several Channels, some in Arabic some in English. Moment of truth was in English but with Arabic subtitles. That may be why you found some videos of the show in Arabic What I do remember, some new episodes still aired in MBC despite on Wikipedia it showed the show was cancelled. And I do remember this particular episode was broadcasted on MBC cause it was the first and only time I saw someone win the full amount of $500K There are some clips of the episode, including the final question on UA-cam. Sadly I too couldn’t find a full episode online either of this episode, but I’m certain a full episode was broadcasted by MBC long ago, and that the episode had Arabic subtitles
I remember finding lol Superman back in 2014 on liveleak. Never clicked on it but I remember seeing that thumbnail on there. According to Reddit, it basically disappeared sometime in 2015.
I grew up in & live in Utah. Polygamy isn’t accepted by the general public, but it is still extremely common. I have absolutely 0 doubt in Melanie’s story. I have personal friends who have experienced the same & worse. One friend’s father (in the late nineties) was locked in a shed in the winter for several months for trying to leave polygamy, & he only got out because he was broken out by the family of this friends mother. My coworker (who I worked with literally 20 minutes ago) grew up polygamist & was even on the Sister Wives show because she is friends with one of the daughters in the family. For everyone wondering why law enforcement can’t do anything, it’s quite simple: the areas that have the most polygamists are corrupt, many of the polygamists even work in local law enforcement & government. Many of the polygamist groups are also extremely wealthy because they own large regional companies (one I know of is a food industry supply chain based in Salt Lake City). That all being said, most of the polygamists I know are perfectly normal, well adjusted, modern…but pretty much all these polygamists have some ties to the highly conservative & dangerous groups that exist. For many of them, polygamy is more of a cultural identity, polygamy is just how they grew up, & they are otherwise normal people.
tbh I've heard so many similar stories I'm actually more surprised to find out that what I thought was well known about the messed up things in these communities might not be. It's probably worth mentioning though that it's not just polygamy that's the issue, it's messed up manipulation and control over people's lives that leads to a whole bunch of issues
I’ve seen polygamists around my hometown in ut we had to move down the street because they would stand outside our house at night sometimes and throw stuff at our windows because we were mexican. The patriarch is in jail now for aggravated assault.
@@Dolphinboi you have to understand utah is extremely mormon influenced corruption runs deep in the religion. I dont see anything wrong with people following their religion but on the politics side not so much
@@munkimoto2294 Mormons are one of the most bigoted religious groups out there. The one I’ve interacted with asked if I was gay and when I said no he said good. Clearly the religion doesn’t instill good values.
My memory regarding the "LOL Superman" video is way different than that of the other witnesses though. I recall seeing a short video when I was little of a jumper hitting the floor. But in my memory it was a very short video, and you didn't really see all that much apart from the body impacting the floor at a pretty low resolution. I remember it being too fast and unclear to properly see it, but it was clear enough to see a body hitting the ground. the only part which I thought was disturbing was the sound of the impact rather than what I saw. The sound could be considered quite "clear" compared to the footage. I can only explain it as a "thud", that sound is what I remember very clearly. It was very upsetting mostly because of the audio combined with the video. There were no "exploding bodies" like some claim. Just what appeared to be red mist and the body impacting the ground. The video was for sure a lot more up close than the 2 only available video's showing impacts (I found those 2 on reddit but they are not the ones I remember). It wasn't the one where the person hits the lamppost, or the one showing the floor where bodies lie. And I also don't recall there being any sort of funny name like "lol superman". That doesn't mean it wasn't the title or maybe even a re-upload, but I don't recall it being named that. Mainly because I searched for jumping people, not for superman. I am quite certain it was on youtube though, this was before I even had an account. Edit: It obviously could have been a video uploaded back then of a totally different jumper from a different moment in time and the uploader just mislead everyone, or just a total fake edit of some kind, althrough I highly doubt that from what I remember. but I for sure remember seeing and mostly hearing this. The video was very short that is for sure what I remember. I am usually extremely good at finding content and even go as far as browsing the dark web for it, but I cannot find this specific video. I did find some pictures on reddit of the same area I *think* the video was shot from, but obviously many more people were there that day so this proves nothing.
So I wanted to give info about the Moment of Truth episode as I saw it when it was available on YT at the time and know some of its backstory. As mentioned the original video was from a Saudi where all the unaired episodes were aired (which is weird considering how conservative that country is)(UPDATE: It was also aired in UAE). It was an episode that started typical enough for the show where the least offensive of the 21 questions were asked first. It wasn't until half-way through when the polygamist community came out and it was easily the most uncomfortable and cringy the show got. I'm 100% sure that someone (more than likely a game show fan) downloaded the episode. I think the several reasons it hasn't be reuploaded by anyone is fear of being copyright striked and ire of the game show community because they frown upon controversial stuff like that.
It was aired on MBC which is a very popular tv station across the middle east and north africa, usually they censor or remove kissing or s3x scenes but they keep pretty much everything else and sometimes they just don't translate what's being said if it's not PG.
Maybe it wasn't titled "LOL SUPERMAN" but I definitely remember a 9/11 video circulating of victims falling to their deaths and striking the ground. Not like the "falling man photo" which is at a stark angle to the tower. The video was far grainier and filmed fairly perpendicularly to one of the sides of the towers. I remember the bodies hitting a broad gray/white surface, possibly concrete in a construction zone. Yes, the blood splatter was extremely upsetting. Not sure if this is the same as "LOL SUPERMAN" but if there truly is no other video of the victims like this, then this video was it. I remember the video semi-tracking the first victims falling, but after a while just focusing on the impact area. I hope this helps whoever in their search, even if I never want to see it again. For the sake of public record I wish you luck in your investigation.
@@bla-t Maybe? I remember the ground being cleaner and some sort of equipment near the bodies like storage containers or construction equipment or something. It's been 20 years so I could just be mixing this up. Appreciate the suggestion
@@suddenwall you might be referring to 9/11 footage by Guy Rosbrook. it was filmed high up in the Millennium Hotel, so they were able to look down and see the bodies of jumpers (there isnt much detail, however it is still a horrifying image). there is also a part of the footage where the camera follows one of the jumpers down, smashing through the roof of the stage. the footage is still on youtube
I have relatives who were involved in Children of God. It makes me sick knowing they were involved and it’s extremely difficult to reconcile how I felt about them and knowing the sick things they were involved in.
i also wanted to add, since i just watched a video that also covered the melanie moment of truth episode, before she answered the last question, they asked her if she wanted to, and she said "i'll do it for my dad". and then the question was asked, and she said yes, she thought he had. a lot of people theorize that she thought answering this could get her dad properly arrested. another thing is that there is a clip of the father being interviewed afterwards, saying something along the lines of "i don't think i knew what a minor was at the time, that was a long time ago" or something similar, which makes the whole situation even more fucked up.
For sure. Or at least, if they are to be found, I rather they remain in the hands of professionals, like police or forensic specialists. The internet honestly cannot be trusted with sensitive footage in the slightest.
@@gothicMCRgirl yeah and tbh I understand morbid curiosity to a degree but I hate people who actively search for videos of people dying just for the fun of it or to send to others. It's why I'm glad a lot of these are lost
It’s weird how this channel is so full of people who claim they want to erase history and avoid the uncomfortable. There must be something Freudian to it.
16:25 - 23:18 I buy this being legit, because The Children of God/Familly International Cult is the same one that made that "S.O.S." video (most famously reviewed by RLM). So they clearly have... interesting outreach techniques.
@@wasted6459 "unhinged" is the nice way to put it. A lot of the "old internet" was made up of the most annoying people on earth finding a place where they could be edgy and obnoxious without consequence.
13:28 Smartphones weren't a thing in 2001, that's true, but there were actually few phones with rudimentary digital cameras capable of recording videos. Granted, the quality wasn't very good (closer to the gameboy camera, albeit with color), but it was possible.
I feel like 9/11 lost media brings out two very different types of people - those who want to simply document an event that effectively changed the United States forever and those who just want to see gore and are mostly interested in seeing the impact and aftermath of the jumpers specifically. We're in a point in time right now where 9/11 was recent enough to be heavily documented but far enough away to where younger generations can distance themselves from it and not quite understand the gravity of it all similar to the kinds of people who argue over if Titanic "deserved her fame" because "other shipwrecks had more deaths" completely ignoring that it isn't a game and we aren't keeping score but they feel like it's fine to talk like this because it was "a long time ago". They're desensitized to it and letting fascination get in the way of understanding that it was an awful human tragedy strictly because They're too young to be emotionally impacted by it.
As a Gen Z who was too young to remember 9/11 at the time, for me, I'm fascinated by 9/11 because of nostalgia. 9/11 was the end of the era of peace that the fall of the Soviet Union gave the world and the end of the hope that the start of the new millennium gave the world. 1992 to Sept 10, 2001 was truly a lost era that was stolen from us. It was a completely different world that us young people never got to experience. I really wish that I was old enough to see the Twin Towers in person because they truly were the symbol of that lost era. The new WTC will never compare to the original. The new one is a shell of its former self. It just feels a collection of basic buildings rather than the iconic symbol and landmark it's supposed to be. It lost its soul after 9/11. Personally, I wish we rebuilt them. The memorial pools are nice, but I really wish the Twin Towers rose again next to them.
I'm a bit of both when it comes to 9/11 footage. I want any and all lost media from that day to be found and documented, but at the same time, I've always wanted to see what it was like when the jumpers hit the ground. I guess it's just morbid curiosity
@@eaterofspidersWhat part of Gen z? I was born shortly after 9/11 and my dad saw the towers fall, being in NYC closely, I'm well aware of the gravitas of it all.
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Believe or not, but this is the 100th video he uploaded on his channel.
thanks mate, really enjoy your lost media content as you probably know by now, i hope all is good
Happy 100th!
Thanks for shouting out the archive!
"2014, which was 9 years ago" the real scariest part of this video
Feel old yet!?
@NES do you just spend all your time commenting sad things on blameitonjorge videos or what?
Did you know that we may not be able to watch old videos
Yeah
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Moment of Truth had a Peruvian counterpart here in Perú called 'El Valor de la Verdad', where the first contestant (a young woman) was in a kinda embarassing situation involving adultery to which she wasn't bothered or affected, among the people who were on the side was her boyfriend (or husband, can't remember), the woman ended up winning the prize, only to be murdered days later by her boyfriend/husband. The murder made the show explode in popularity.
I expected it to be this story when it started
That's exactly like that one hairdresser's episode could've ended, but instead my man walked away like the King he is.
Yess, I've also made a comment about that.
@@venomousicon8855 change and grow as a person
@mango if you're gonna cheat you deserve the consequences.
I'm an archivist and lost media hunter. I've found and published some "lost media," though none of it was earth shattering, I've found VHS recordings of sporting events that were thought to be lost, etc. Anyway, this video got me thinking about two things. First, i remember watching A Moment of Truth when it came out, and I specifically remember that episode and thinking that television had really sunk to new lows. That's saying a lot, as this was around the time Fear Factor was having people eat disgusting things. Anyway, the first point brings me to the second point, I'm surprised how much lost media is relatively recent, like post-2000. It occurred to me that I might be in possession of lost media from the early days of the internet as I used to download and save hundreds videos from FTP and P2P sites in the late 90s and early 2000s. I have whole DVDs loaded with 9/11 footage that i downloaded from Kazaa and Napster. It just shocks me how much of this lost media is "new." In the early 2000s, I basically never considered that lost media would be an ongoing problem, i thought it was over with the dawn of the digital era.
any chance you got old roblox clients?
Cool! Archivist is one of my future jobs I’m considering
How about the TV-Show "John Doe"? You can't get that anywhere. Must have been 2002 or something. With Dominic Purcell, nonetheless. Great show. From what I can remember.
could you please upload your 9/11 dvd's onto the internet archive?
Thing is, the dawn of the Internet is basically the dawn of unanimous communication, so lost media is easier to spread awareness and solve than ever before.
The "polygamist community" that Melanie grew up in was an FLDS mormon community, an offshoot of mormonism that has little to do with the church of the laterday saints (modern mormonism, essentially). Moment of Truth probably didnt mention that for fear of legal repercussions from either FLDS or LDS, but FLDS is a current and active cult that still opperates today and its important to know what it is and its prevalence. FLDS groups are unfortunately not as uncommon as you think and pedophilia and incest are common practices within them.
Also, I'll get absolutely flamed by every mormon reading this for mentiong this, but "Under the Banner of Heaven" by John Krakauer goes into detail about a famous homocide case involving FLDS and its a super intriguing, horrifying read.
I second Under the Banner of Heaven. I read it in my free time in 11th grade and it chilled me to my bone.
we polygamist dont claim these people as our own, polygamy is about love, not about abus*ng or doing sick stuff to other people
It reminds me of the Warren Jeffs offshoot but I don't think the family would be allowed to go on TV.
@@GooeySplatyeah these kind of people give polygamy a bad name.
Thank you for naming them. When I heard "Polygamist" over and over I thought this was just gonna be some old-timey shaming situation that went badly. I was very confused until making a wild guess it was mormons. Since modern polygamy is as opposed to mormonism as it gets. Thank you for confirming and giving more info. Definitely irksome that Jorge pulled unrelated people into this grouping by not using the proper name for them.
Interesting Fact: One of the most famous video clips of 9/11 (I sadly can't remember which one) was apparently filmed by Sam Riegel, the voice actor of Phoenix Wright.
Huh.
Oh wow. Thanks for sharing.
""miracles" are something that doesn't exist" -depressed Sam Riegel while filming this.
Small world.
WHAT
I'm German, and decided to look into the "Teddybear man" case a little. As you mentioned, there was a woman who claimed to have seen a Talkshow in 1988 about a mother who was searching for her son.
I looked it up but only found this (ua-cam.com/video/9akjVYNs5RI/v-deo.html) german video about a mother who's son dissappeared in 1982. She was unclear of his whereabouts for 34 years, but the show actually found out where he lived and reunited them.
Turns out he ran away because of his dad emotionally abusing him. By the time of the supposed talk show in 1988, the son was already missing for 6 years. Maybe she was on that Talkshow?
I didn't find much else on a quick look.
This needs a pinning 📌
I think it could have been a d3ug add!ct and when he was going to buy D3ugs and he froze to death on his way to the D3ug dealer and the teddy bear was a smuggling device but its head has been opened and closed again ? to store D3ugs ?
Just my Theory
@Sea-cadet2838 Hi. Professional teddy-bear maker here (hence my name). Those repairs are not consistent with what would be done to place an object inside a teddy bear. (I do this sometimes on custom memorial jobs, usually with locks of a loved one's hair, scraps of clothing, a little bag of earth from a garden or grave, etc.) It's the center back seam that would be opened up, not the neck. That seam is bigger and more accessible, and also easier to stitch back up. Repairs to the head and neck are common on bears that have been played with roughly by children, often over many years. They kiss their bears, try to pose their heads, carry them by the ears, etc. That bear looks to me like a well-loved childhood bear.
@onbearfeet alr thanks for the info
@@Sea-cadet2838man a teddy bear on a grown man is the wordy idea to put drugs in to smuggle lol what’s this dude doing out here with a teddy bear , lol sewn back up multiple times hahahha he’s busted immediately lol
I highly respect for Melanie exposing an abusive lifestyle that she has to go through. She is such a brave woman.
❤❤❤
brave, yet did it for money, so…
n o t b r a v e ?
@@wednesdayPrepper with how horribly she was treated that's probably fair
@@wednesdayPrepper i fully respect it. she kinda deserves it. also missed the bit where it was an opportunity to shed light on this community as well.
Maybe she should have gone to the police instead of a tv show
About the German man: From 92-98 there was a show called "Bitte melde dich!" (Please get in touch!) with its host Joerg Wontorra. It was a show where ppl told their story about missing family members. Maybe the other guy got it mixed up with "Fliege", who is a (TV-)pastor and normally had more philosophical/religious/social themes in his show.
Fliege and Wontorra don't look too different from each other, when there's 25 years between then and now the guy remembering it. Also their first names "Jörg/Joerg" and "Jürgen/Juergen" are not too far from each other in writing and sound.
Oh man, that is potentially promising
Im from germany too! I remember the TV-Show. Maybe, its a good Hind to find something to work with.
Fr wishing this was Reddit right now so I could put that red box around this comment.
danke schön one of three german people watching this video!!
Yeah, Fliege was more a TalkShow focused on social themes like living with handicapped or deadly ill people.
If it was on Fliege then maybe unter the the theme of "how to live on with a loved one missing".
If a camera with pictures taken inside the towers was found in someone's pocket, I would take it to mean that person wanted it to be found and their story known. Keeping it secret defeats that object. I can understand they may be sensitive to the families of anyone else in the pictures, but maybe they wanted their own story 'told' too.
Who cares what a dead person wants, it's the living that have to live with it. The dead will be fine either way
The only people who truly have rights are the dead. The living are the slaves who must contend with what the dead want until the time of their death.
@@rustneversleeps85 weirdo
@@joemamr710 wtf are you going in about?
I’m assuming a camera found on a jumper that died jumping from the 70 something floor or higher doesn’t have any film that could be retrieved. But maybe there’s something on there from the inside with him holding a note to his loved ones saying goodbye, and honestly that should be given to their loved ones and is no one else’s business
I dunno man, I feel like the Truth one shouldn't have gotten to the point where they had questions related to this poly community lined up before they realized "Hey wait we should call the cops" if they ever actually did come to that obvious realization. Kinda seems like their priorities were a bit fucked.
The statute of limitations probably ran out by that point. That and a lot of states allow marriage between a minor and adult with the parents’. IIRC, the minimum age can be 11 years old (though it depends on the state) and a few recent news articles about politicians voting against raising the age.
@@TheMedicatedArtist *vomits uncontrollably* Just awful
Having seen other people talk about moment of truth, I'm surprised a show made it past the casting phase. Like, I k how people do crazy things for money, but it was like always people with super dark secrets that shouldn't be put on national TV (ar least not for entertainment).
Lie detectors aren’t admissible in court
@@TheMedicatedArtist actually send them, just remove those people
Regarding the "Teddybjørn-mannen" case: The hosts from "Åsted Norge" continued looking into the case in the years following the episode, and extracting a DNA-profile from the remains was eventually made possible. The DNA profile was shown to contain the Y-chromosome, proving that Teddybjørn-mannen was indeed a male. The DNA-profile was then put through a database, and four reference persons (three norwegians and one german) were found. Although these four may be distant family/relation. He was probably of both norwegian and german descent. A request for identification was sent to several countries through Kripos and Interpol. A few countries have since told Kripos through Interpol that they put the DNA-profile through databases. Nothing has showed up so far and his identity remains a mystery for the time being, but these recent steps in the case have been huge and there's still hope that we may one day know who he was.
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The second segment makes me want to ask my dad to help me look for my mom's old VCR recordings. For four days after 9/11 she was recording the news all the time on both our TVs (which was quite a rare thing to have at the time).
The reason I say so is because it was...I think two days later, there was already a friggin' documentary out about it while the ruins were still smoking. And there was footage from the parking garage under the Towers, during the attack. My mom sent me out of the room when I asked her if the thudding sound in the video was explosions and she realized--and told me many years later, as an adult--that no, it wasn't explosions. That was the jumpers hitting the ground above the parking garage.
It's absolutely horrifying footage, and I can't imagine many people saved it for that reason. But if my mom's VHS collection is still in the garage, and the tapes still work...we still have it.
You ever find it?
Any updates??
Did you find it
Hey any updates?
really hoping this guy doesn't "bang himself" or "shout himself" twice in the back of the head smfh
hey man, just letting you know that OP of the soviet tipofmytongue post marked it as solved and personally reached out to me saying it's the story they remember! so the creepypasta they read isn't lost, but there very well might be another one inspired by the 4chan post. it is however also the story that inspired the GOC, Kain confirmed it for me. made a video on it a month or so ago about the whole story. just wanted to clear that up thanks :)
So cool to see you here in the comments! Love your videos ♡ And great to hear this update - solved cases are always good news!
@@ChocolateShaddixX thank you, i'm happy to hear you've enjoyed my videos so far! and yeah it was great for at least part of the lost creepypasta mystery to be solved after so long
Just started watching your stuff a couple of months ago. I really loved your video on the Frutiger Aero aesthetic.
i watched your video and wanted to link it here, you make great videos
@@drummerman6488 the frutiger aero video was honestly a blast to make and thank you :)
my god i went searching for the missing episodes of moment of truth and i'm so glad this one stayed lost
Jarvis:)
hi jarv
love your stuff man, hoping to win dhar mann bingo one of these days lmfao
O….k.
Lmao you can do this episode right after you finish Black/White just to add to the “why are humans awful” pile
Jorge, I joined this channel when you had 300 subs, I’m so damn proud to see you hit 1 million. You deserve every ounce of recognition you get.
Finding a teddy bear with the male body is so sad for some reason. Maybe they had it to remember their family? Idk there is just a component of innocence to them that makes their death so tragic. Anyone who has sentimentality towards stuff like that is a gentle soul as they were fond of their family, Maybe they somehow got separated? I hope we can know one day
I really felt it when he said it had been repaired multiple times. I have a stuffed elephant that I’ve had since I was born 20 years ago and I literally have had to fix it millions of times. Not to be depressing but I hope when I die I still have it with me
@@bluejayway19 whatever makes you feel most comfortable. People need points of familiarity in a terrifying world. Whether it be a cross or a teddy bear that's been repaired multiple times.
Monty Burns had a teddy bear too. Bless his innocence and gentle soul.
Something bittersweet about that man dying alone but at least having his beloved teddy bear with him. Hopefully they manage to identify him and they can return the bear to the family or relatives so it can be preserved
It makes him feel so much more human, less like a 'random corpse'
The one Creepypasta about the Red Army killing God sounds like something you'd expect in a 1950's-early 1960's science fiction story.
Yeah, I've read a bunch of 80s scifi shorts that would have gone right along with that too.
That does sound pretty cool. Lol catching and skinning god
@@PartnershipsForYou Until you find out how awful the results would be ah la God Of War 3.
Soviets/red army were very against religion of any kind so I can kind of imagine it being some kind of a satire written by people occupied by them. Wonder if it was something like this and not just a creepypasta
@@Jhud69 They weren't against religion, they just opposed religion-based subjugation and took separation of church and state seriously. The narrative that they were like Redditor atheists comes mostly from the US, which was (and still is tbh) very pro-theocracy.
Remember that this was the 1900s where Americans were using God to justify school prayers, turning all women into housewives, segregating black people, etc.
I'm one of those persons who seek out these 9-11 clips. I've done it ever since youtube began.
It's not about morbid curiosity. It's merely about the fact that I remember that day vividly, and it feels like it never really ended.
I'm just stuck with the memory, and I think I can normalize the memory by revisiting it. Sort of trying to even out the darkness.
Pretty sure many others like me are trying to revisit the whole ordeal from as many angles as possible, for the same reasons.
Israelis like to dance
Melanie is absolutely courageous for going on a TV program to expose the abuses her father and the community put her through. I hope wherever she is now, she has found peace and healing in her life.
not to be that guy but genuinely how does this have 1.3k likes and no comments
@@scarrygarry5772 I'm surprised too, to be honest.
@@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 bot stal kers
@@alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 Im also surprised that the replies are from 4 days ago, while the comment is 1 year. Internet is truly a weird place
@@Nik1_ As am I. Certainly agree.
We'll see if a sudden influx comes in...
german native here; the show they're looking for is most likely "Aktenzeichen xy ungelöst". I think "Fliege" was more of an entertainment show, while "Aktenzeichen" is/was also more of a true crime and recent missing person cases. It may be hard to find and episode around the 90s, as those haven't been digitized and/or archived :/
or "Bitte melde dich!"
An in depth XY archive is available … extensive list of episodes with all cases and outcome … those talk-shows also dealt with the topic of people vanishing suddenly now and again! This says nothing. And … German TV channels tell you nothing found in archive despite it is actually confirmed they aired it and you got the title. So could still be Fliege!
When I was 24 years old I worked as a personal assistant for a man who owned realty in different states. He collected things that represented peoples final moments alive. Videos in all sorts of formats of corpses, people dying in hospital beds taking their last breaths, suicides etc. there was something sickening about being in that room. After two years of working with him I got used to it but he fired me a few weeks after my 2 year anniversary. Seeing this video and especially the grainy style ones like the twin tower vid reminded me a lot of the videos he would have playing in the background in his office.
I think you had a lucky escape!
That’s disturbing
The fact that he not only collected them but CASUALLY PLAYED THEM IN THE BACKGROUND OF HIS OFFICE is insane. That man has bodies in his basement.
Ricky Rodriguez's life and death was such a terrible tragedy if you look into it. He was a good, empathetic soul that wanted to stop the pain and suffering he'd endured from happening to other children the only way he could figure out. He killed himself because even after the terrible, horrid things that nanny, his mother, and the rest of the cult did to him, he still couldn't handle the guilt of taking the nanny's life. The members of that awful, horrid cult deserved so much worse than they got.
Whatever happened to his father? Does anyone know?
I'm so sorry for him
I've been down this rabbit hole for three years and Ricky's story breaks my heart every time. I never knew him but I feel a grief every time I see or hear his name mentioned, he deserved a better childhood, a better life and a better fate. His "mother" Karen Zerby is the leader of the cult and she is somehow still a free woman to this day. As is Sara Kelley, the main woman who obliterated his innocence.
My heart aches for him and all of those poor babies/kids/teens who had to endure ab*se at the hands of the cult. Not a religious person but those who hurt them will never see heaven.
@@Max25670 apparently nobody knows
I imagine there's probably a quite a few "home movies" of 9/11 that have never seen the light of day. Millions of people live in that area, and it's possible many of them filmed the towers from whatever perspective they had, and just never uploaded it to the internet; especially when you consider that taking something recorded on a camcorder, and uploading it, wasn't necessarily easy for everyone to do
that and the FBI seizes any and all footage they can find that doesn't fit the official narrative
Yeah, there was no UA-cam, there was no easy convinient place to upload videos to the Internet, there was no easy convinient way to convert camcorder tapes into a digital format on a computer too. The only way you could really upload videos to the Internet back then was to pay for a domain name for a website and pay to host video files on there, which was extremely expensive to do because videos were very big files in an era where download speeds were incredibly slow. Normally what we used to do was start a download of a video right before bed, go to sleeo while leaving it on overnight to download, wake up the next morning and go and check if it's finished (normally if hadn't, so you then had to leave it on while you went to school/work and hope it had finally finished before you got back home). And half the time the download would mysteriously fail halfway through, so you'd have to restart the entire download all over again.
And because herd drives were so incredibly tiny (like 10 GB), you couldn't ever have multiple videos downloaded at the same time, you had to burn it to a CD and then delete it off your computer.
Yup
If a 9/11 jumper had a disposable camera in his pocket w photos from inside the tower on that day, it’s likely he had the camera in his desk and he brought it out to take photos, knowing what was happening and that he had no chance of escaping. He then jumped - not just to save himself from a worse fate (potentially trapped in rubble, in agony for hours or days) but, most likely to save the footage from the disaster so it would be seen and people would know what they went through. Perhaps to be used in the court proceedings but, certainly to be SEEN.
The idea of some no-name soviet soldiers literally finding and then killing GOD is so comical to me
I really hope the full thing gets found. It sounds like something that could be either genuinely fascinating and terrifying, or hilariously stupid, all depending on the execution
same lmfaoo
@@forgot_myosotis i doubt you did, but if you actually provide a link i might believe you
@@franz.francisco it seems my comment with the link somehow vanished. wtf I'm gonna try to post it again
incase I am unable to post the link again the video I got it from is called "The 10-Year Search for a Lost Creepypasta" the link is shown at 17:10
it could be that links are blocked from being posted to stop from spam bots flooding the comments
the whole 9/11 topic reminds me of something interesting thats always stuck around in my mind: the sleepycast black tuesday tape. basically sleepycast was a podcast of these newgrounds guys who would all get together and talk about stupid stuff. one of the guys on there, mick, told the story of how he witnessed 9/11. part of this story included how he recorded a tape labeled "black tuesday", where he sifted through every FM radio station during the attacks. to my knowledge, hes never released this tape and theres only one post about it on the sleepycabin subreddit
So it's probably bull then? Lmao
@@Robthechump compared to the rest of sleepycabin's tomfoolery, they were actually all rather somber during that part of the episode
Chris, Zach, Cory, Mick, John, Nial, and Stamper were all involved
@@BeyondBaito yep, all of them were involved in the plotting of 9/11
@@BeyondBaito Nah that's Tomar blaming them for 9/11 as part of his usual antics
I can hopefully help shed some light on the Children of God / The Family International section.
My partner grew up in The Family International (and personally knew both Ricky Rodriguez and Karen Zerby), and remembers the animations listed at the end of that section like The Luvvets, Life with Grandpa, and Treasure Attic. However, she doesn't remember any TV show shown within TFI that had a sheep as the main character.
She believes that the OP in the thread is remembering their past incorrectly (likely due to the abuse, which definitely *was* real), and is actually thinking of the music videos from Treasure Attic.
They produced a song called "Snowflake" about a sheep which was very popular, and the very name 'Snowflake' was used as a pejorative within TFI long before it was in the rest of the world. As for the part about the boy "giving his body to the church", it's possible that was another corrupted memory from the Treasure Attic music video "Wolf Wolf", wherein a young boy lays in a field and waves in a sexually suggestive way.
"Snowflake": ua-cam.com/video/wLnIYAtGs0M/v-deo.html
"Wolf Wolf": ua-cam.com/video/VyNssZL1hHs/v-deo.html
Treasure Attic had several clips with puppets, several clips with animations, and numerous clips featuring Jesus, so it's possible that the combined 'Treasure Attic viewing experience' constitutes what the OP is describing.
thank u for sharing this info !
Great thinking, you may be on to something here!
Tell Blameitonjorge that, it might be useful! Thank you for sharing
ik your comment is old but i watched the songs u linked and its really disturbing to me that they’re on youtube kids. i wonder if the people in charge (of YT) know that there’s literally cult material on yt kids? lol
25:44 I just love how the 4chan forums are able to talk about the most serious & spooky topics with a picture of Cranky Kong swearing as the start of the thread, takes all the fear away.
i love how after the 911 segment you said we needed a palette cleanser, so we jumped right into a sex abuse cult 😭
The Palette cleanser was the sponsor segment.
@@llewelynshingler2173 youre right but it still seemed funny to me at the time :D
@@llewelynshingler2173its a joke bro
THE LOL SUPERMAN VIDEO HAS BEEN FOUND ON DOCUMENTINGREALITY
@@firstname745 for real? 😮
11:50 that’s incorrect.
There’s actually 4 videos of the first plane. The Naudet footage, the WNYW footage (doesn’t show the plane itself, but shows up close footage where you can see the impact of the shockwave and people’s immediate reactions to it), the Wolfgang footage and the one taken on a Brooklyn highway mentioned here. There was also a webcam from inside tower 2 that was recording at the time of the first impact, but it’s framerate is so slow that you only really see the before and after, just minutes apart.
True! There are also audio recordings of the first plane.
He only said that for a long time there was only one! The WNYW does not show anything especially no plane hitting the tower.
@@GanymedeXD it shows the before, the shockwave, the smoke cloud from it and people’s initial reaction. Just because it doesn’t capture the plane visually doesn’t mean nothing is in it.
@@CoolCademMAnimates-fz1ui Do you know where I can find that webcam footage? I've seen all the others you've mentioned.
@@exnihilo5087 ua-cam.com/video/J5iM3VNfF3o/v-deo.htmlsi=QB5hB8RFYOiP7OG4
I hope Melanie took the money and cut all her ties to her family, safe in the knowledge that they will never again hurt her, as I hope for all children who suffer abuse from their parents.
Yeah I’m sure they paid her all that money for an episode that didn’t air.
She blew it all on heroin and OD'd
@@Chipswitch22 yea no
@@_falling.sky_ no yeah look it up
"tearfully she said yes and won the top prize"
yeah this is pretty fucked up right here
Sounds like a Black Mirror episode. Like it sounds so fucked up that you wouldn’t think it could actually happen
@@JackOdyssey We basically live in a black mirror episode nowadays.
@@diegorincon4673 it was 18 years ago though
literally faked for money. 🤦
@@masterBong1 do you have any evidence of that?
I remember the footage of the jumpers from 9/11. I feel like it was a news clip that was shown the day of but never aired again. My older brother still brings it up randomly because he vividly remembers it. I just remember the footage looked like it was from inside the lobby looking out. My brother specifically remembers the sound of those poor people hitting the ground, says it sounded like grenades going off 😢
I remember this one!
Has nothing to do with the ine in the video. This one is a documentary filmed by 2 guys that made a documentary about a fire brigade. It did not show anything. The LOL Superman one is an alleged shock video showing them pop when they smashed into the concrete.
@@GanymedeXD 👍
@@GanymedeXD It seems the documentary one is another shock video which is called skylight.mov, people think they cropped the jumper part out from the released documentary
I’ve actually seen the 9/11 footage of the guy filming in the car when the plane hit the first tower for many years now. It was uploaded sometime in the last decade. Unfortunately the footage I’ve seen, the aspect ratio isn’t the original 4:3, but has been stretched to 16:9 since people think it’s best to stretch the original ratio despite doing so not only cut off part of the image as well will make the image look fairly bad as the quality isn’t as clear as it originally looked. Now I know this probably means nothing to people, but I’ve often found it to be unnecessary to stretch an a video that wasn’t originally 16:9 just so it’ll fit the standard aspect ratio of today as quality is lost as well as parts of the image either are lost as well or doesn’t look right anymore.
People are dumb and don't understand resolutions and aspect ratios.
I worked editing photos and I got a lot of times the "Designers" (in name only) would stretch the damn photos. Pissed me off so much.
Where did you manage to find it?
@@demonicalex25633 look up pavel hllava first plane
Stretched is better
@@gamingdoesmc4355 Thank you!
My heart dropped when I realized that animation came from the Children of God. The Phoenix family was indoctrinated into that cult before River and Joaquin were actors, and John Frusciante of Red Hot Chili Peppers fame, who was very close to River, credits his cause of death to the things that happened to him there. He may have been the one that took the drugs and overdosed, but what was he running from? What pain was he trying to numb? And who knows how many others' lives were ruined...
Interesting...
Wait i thought he has mentioned it before!!!
I think I saw LOL Superman around 2014 on LiveLeak. I was 13 and I just started to discover the "other" parts of the internet. The video was like 30 or so seconds long, and it showed the bodies of several jumpers on the ground, but there were people who were just hitting the ground during the video. I remember that video really hit me, and was traumatized for a while. Though I am not 100% sure that this video was LOL Superman, because probably there was plenty of videos of the jumpers hitting the ground.
There is only 2 non lost videos of jumpers hitting the ground one of which was the rosbrook footage and I have to ask if it was recorded on ground or like from a higher view
the 9/11 subject reminds me of the time i found a random vhs tape in a public trash can, it was unlabelled so i got curious and took it home. it was a recording of live tv coverage of the incident, except it was an american tv station and i’m in australia. i still wonder who recorded it, moved overseas and just dumped it in a random trash bin rather than their own wheelie bin. anyway, definitely makes me think unseen 9/11 footage can still be uncovered, even in the most random of places
@Aperture because it's not true, of course
@Aperture2they didn't say they dumped it, they were referring to the fact that whoever owned the VHS must have brought it to Australia and then thrown it out in a public bin for them to find
This comment should be pinned. I have a few ideas of who might want footage of 9/11 while fleeing across the world.
I am really interested in forum posts from day of 9/11. I recommend looking at the newgrounds forums, it's fascinating to see what people were thinking and saying, and last I looked some photos were posted as well. Ones I've never seen anywhere else
Can you please post it?
I remember when I was a kid around 2008-2011 there were 3 youtube auto-fill searches that creeped me out about 9/11.
"9/11 Jumpers taking clothes off"
"It's raining men 9/11"
"I believe I can fly 9/11"
I don't know wtf kind of videos those were, if they even existed, or what the heck people were searching that caused those auto
search bar recommendations to trend at the time, but I'm happy I didn't press enter.
god the first search is so horrifying.
I remember them videos too, theyre still available on some gore sites. Scary asf
I actually remember those early searches too, I recall seeing some bad taste joke videos about the jumpers
i actually remember a kid at my after school program showing people a 9/11 suicide video and he was going to show it to me but at the time i choose to push it away from him, in hindsight now i wish i watched it or even remember who this kid was.
It would have been people jumping instead of being in a crumbling to2er
I never get tired of Jorge's videos, his narration is so captivating and the topics he chooses are very interesting, I had never heard of that truth TV show and that lady's story, all respect for her for surviving such a terrible life up to that point.
@Vxniillaazx Well, I had no idea.
re: the image in the "God is dead" creepypasta.
the image is from the "Maaselkä cannibalism" report in 1942, Finnish forces found a camp of Russian soldiers who, abandoned by the russian army, had been left to die in the elements as they weren't worth rescuing. One of their members broke their leg, so they decided to butcher him. The photo is of the Finnish soldiers holding up a large skin while organs are draped over a tree branch in the background. You can google it if you want to see it.
however, the truth is that the story was made up by the finnish soldier to be propaganda. In reality, the skin belonged to a moose the russian soldiers killed and ate, and there was no cannibalism involved.
Finland mentioned
Yay?:D
You sure about that? Cannibalism was very common 8n both WWII and in Soviet Russia
What?! You mean they didn’t actually kill God? Color me shocked lol
Classic Finland move.
Типичные угро-финны.
"102 Minutes That Changed America" is an incredible documentary about 9/11. It is composed of only amateur footage and it happens in real time, from the first strike to the collapse of the towers.
There was some live footage on 911 from the lobby where you hear the fireman talking. You can hear them explaining to other fireman that those horrible bangs were people hitting the ground. I don't remember hearing any music, but there were a few seconds hear and there that did show them falling and just going out of sight before they hit. It still rattles me thinking about it.
The music played maybe only before the plane hit the tower ?
i think thats the Naudet Brothers footage
they're inside the lobby and you can hear a bunch of loud sounds of people hitting the ground
in that same video you can see the first plane hit
and you can also see the south tower collapsing from inside the north tower lobby
Man, 9/11 still feels surreal to think about sometimes. I will never forget that day, but it kind of feels like it wasn't real at the same time. Memories are weird, man
that's because it was manufactured and planned by the bush administration from the get go. the death and misery is very real, but it wasn't a straightforward terrorist attack
I remember being evacuated from school in NJ at the time, vaguely.
Two airplanes crashing into a skyscraper in the middle of New York is something out of an action film, but it happened in real life. I don't plane people for never moving on from something traumatic like that.
I remeber hearing about it as I was leaving school, I live in the uk and even then, I remember the atmosphere being unlike anything I had ever experienced before. I was around 7 years old, but I recall it being the moment where my parents had to try and explain terrorism to me, without making me a nervous wreck. A few years later, we had the 7/7 bombings, so I think more people over here were mentally prepared to deal with the chaos.
@@protendi I wasn't even born at that time
God, Melanie's story is horrifying.
Luckily God was executed by the Soviet Army. Now we just have to purge humanity :)
@@sarcasticstranger3817 🌽⚽️
The show is staged. I mean some "contestants" are better actors than others, but sometimes the questions are obviously rigged, or the reactions obviously acted out. Maybe some episodes are more real than others, maybe Melanie's story is real. If so, I agree with you. But a good dose of skepticism is also healthy here.
@@bugjams Never said it was real, but whatever.
Yep, drinking a beer is a sin but raping a child is A-Ok to these people
14:35 heard “lol Superman” was a comment, but if it someone did say something like that then that’s just messed up.
It was a comment under a 9/11 mockery video where a low quality PNG of superman catches s jumper. The more possible title that some viewers said was called "Man turns into jam" which would fit the criteria of the edgy titles of shock videos in late 2000s and early 2010s such as "1 man 1 jar" "2 girls 1 cup" or even "3 dudes 1 hammer"
I was born and raised in Utah and a member of the LDS church. Melanie came from the FLDS in case anyone was wondering. I went to school with some of the kids that escaped from the polygamist community. They are in Colorado City, Arizona. I’ve driven past it before, and it gives off weird and creepy feeling. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask
Why does it have a creepy feeling? Might be a dumb question, but just want a description of what makes it a creepy feeling to drive past it
wait how do you know where melanie came from?
How do nearby locals who are not affiliated with this group feel about/treat them?
@@pegasusactua2985 I’m not sure about the locals unaffiliated with the group in Colorado City, but when the polygamists do come into Utah to shop, eat, or get groceries and supplies, they just keep to themselves or just give you the dirty looks. But us locals in Utah would just mind our own business. There’s quite a few documentaries about them and their leader, Warren Jeffs, if you have any more questions about them. And for who Warren Jeffs is, imagine Slenderman with hair, and glasses but his pics are on the internet
Colorado city is a city in Arizona ?
So the family international used to be called children of god. In an interview about her book unCultured, Daniella Mestyanek Young, a survivor of the cult, talks about a children’s TV show similar to the one in the Reddit post. She also claims to have been used as a child actor for some of the media produced by the cult. Perhaps someone could reach out to her to see if she can provide any information about the show.
Yes this.
Not sure if you'll see this Jorge, but I just finished watching every single video currently up on your channel, and wanted to inform you that you're now in my top 5 favorite UA-camrs. Everytime you post anything, it just gets me excited for all the mystery surrounding anything new you offer. Thanks for many memories and take care!
There's two videos of Jumpers hitting the ground on youtube : Guy Rosbrook's Hotel footage and a 9/11 Nist video of a guy hitting a lamppost. The hotel one is pretty messed up and it's probably more graphic than "lol superman" considering it's enhanced to 4k. 14 minutes in, this poor guy clear as day smashes through the musical stage roof while you can hear his impact and the people in the other hotel rooms screaming as they witness it. This video will definitely cure your morbid curiosity if you want to know what happens to jumpers after a terminal velocity fall. It's sad to watch and i'm actually shocked this video has survived on UA-cam this long.
There’s another video from a video called 9/11 fre line and in one scene you can see a jumper landing in a staircase and the sound
As someone who is 22, I think I understand why some people were crying while watching it live on TV at the time now.
Jesus fucking christ...
His head rolls off the stage tent as well
@@machomanalexyt5736 worst day of my life.
If this is on UA-cam, please archive it somewhere if You didnt already. Who knows if UA-cam Will find these videos and finally crack down on them
I thankfully did NOT grow up with the Children of God/The Family International, but my heart goes out to anyone and everyone who has. I’ve been down the rabbit hole for three years and the stories of the second generation especially are heartbreaking and horrifying. Especially with what happened to Ricky Rodriguez. His mother Karen Zerby is the cult’s leader and she’s somehow still a free woman to this day.
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@@masterBong1 ua-cam.com/video/NYHRBHDECEc/v-deo.html
Rose McGowan and River and Joaquin Phoenix were all in that cult as kids.
My partner and her entire family grew up in The Family International, and knew both Rodriguez and Zerby personally. She has 11 brothers and sisters, and several of the them got raped as children. I still resent her parents somewhat for allowing that to happen to them, but it's not their fault - they're good people. They just got manipulated into thinking that Zerby was able to solve all of their problems.
Fortunately everyone in my partner's family managed to escape, but they lost many friends in doing so, and have a few mental health issues and developmental issues to this day. Most of them have risen above it though, and have very good jobs along with good social circles. So it's definitely possible to come out of it and lead a full life, if that's of any solace.
I have family members who were affiliated with that “church” and it makes me physically ill knowing they were involved in it, especially my cousins who grew up in that sick community. Their parents were estranged from my family for decades and I met them twice as an adult. I had no idea at the time about the cult and they seemed like nice normal people. I find it difficult to reconcile the people I met with the monsters who preyed on children. I believe I still have cousins involved in the family but as they live overseas and I have no contact with them I can’t be sure.
Man that "lol superman" thing got me consuming all kinds of media and news reports from that day for like two hours. I'm 22 and I knew of 911 and everything, but I had never actually watched any footage of it and now I understand why the US is so paranoid. What I don't understand is why someone would wanna see footage like "lol superman", or all those memes about planes hitting the twin towers, like I know dark humour is a thing and I've never found them funny but now I truly despise people who make those kinda jokes, maybe I'm just shocked.
It is weird to me to see younger people make 9/11 jokes. Like, I understand why my peers did it. We were dealing with the trauma. What are y'all dealing with? 😂
Rest in peace, Ricky Rodriguez. I can empathize with him so much, with his mother being a cult leader who allowed the nannies and other women to abuse him. Though I wasn't raised in a cult, I was raised by an abusive mother who would pass me around to other women when I was a child. Ricky wasn't a murderer; people like his nanny Angela Smith and his mother Karen Zerby are a danger to society
The fact a show asking such open and honest questions about touchy subjects like pedophilia and polygamy is very disturbing to me
@Raye 💖 Plus Steve Wilkos treats the subject matter seriously.
@Raye 💖 " A couple guests who failed the test even got convicted."
I'm not sure how true this is exactly, polygraphs cannot be used in a court of law, or as evidence of a crime. Since 1998.
@@frankhyde151 I assume that it caugth the authorities' attention and they investigated it.
In which country did that show aired?
@@denis-florian_0.57 I know it aired in the United States; I don’t know about other countries.
The LOLSuperman segment makes me think of the FOIA request to the FBI pointing out it's in the middle of an investigative file. I feel that even more than 20 years later 9/11 is still being considered an open investigation, long after the 9/11 commission report. It was such a colossal event in American history it will take a minimum of a century to no longer be investigated in some way.
It also might be easier for them to just classify us as “open” to prevent the clips from getting leaked, rather than telling people they won’t release it for moral reasons.
Bootlicker take
the family is truly one of the most disgusting and disturbing cults I've ever come across and the fact that they're still pretty much just as active as they have been since the 60s is baffling. i fully believe that cartoon is something they would make, but the chances of it being found are low since, like you said, they've been doing a frustratingly good job getting rid of their darker material since the Ricky Rodriguez case.
I'm sure some people saved those VHS tapes in secret due to some sort of warped sentimental attachment or nostalgia. You'd be surprised by what kinds of things people hold onto from their childhood.
yes ! which is horrific to learn why haven't we stopped them !
I sincerely hope Melanie used the $500k she won to get out of there, because what she went through is truly sickening.
Pallette cleanser : Let's talk about shaving our balls!
I live in the same city as that girl in the beginning segment, and it made my jaw drop when I heard it. I’m already aware of all the polygamy that goes on because I regularly see the polygamists when we go grocery shopping. It’s just really unnerving to be reminded that this sickening stuff goes on so close to where I am. I hope that that girl is okay, wherever she is now. I can’t even imagine how traumatizing growing up in that culture would be like.
do you know of any other towns with polygamy cults?
@@YinYang333 i think its small isolated communities around the south utah border between arizona, most people don't take the FLDS seriously, i sure don't, and i'm a LDS member. it's sickening and unfortunate that there are people that still are in those communities, when i see someone leave it, i'm glad they escape it, and don't look back.
@shanetyler3228 you're all a bunch of kooks
@@javimiami92 you don't even know me
Utah has a ton of polygamist cults. It’s a heavily Mormon population and some of the sects/offshoots of Mormonism are like that which is insane
Really good video Jorge. I want to make a quick correction though. The video shown at 11:42 is not new footage. It was filmed by a Czech man named Pavel Hlava and has been publicly available for over 21 years. He had been working in New York prior to and the day of the attacks and caught both planes impacting the towers. The first clip was also nearly erased by his son by mistake. It was first shown publicly during a special ABC news broadcast on the first anniversary of 9/11 in 2002. Oddly though, despite being available for so many years, it's rarely mentioned or shown anywhere online. The raw footage was only made public a few years back.
I remember seeing that video when I was like 5 or 6.
I've never felt as much chils running through my spine as when the picture used in the soviet creepypasta was described. I remember the picture vividly and the whole time I was going: "It can't be THAT picture, can it?"
Both Nexpo's _Darkest Lost Media_ and this video show how there is lost media out there that is so disturbing that you have to wonder, "Is it better that it stays lost?"
The _Moment of Truth_ episode does need to be found. More must learn of these disturbing pasts
Regarding 9/11, will you, by any chance, do a video on Sneha Anne Philip? She's an Indian physician who went missing the day before 9/11, and is believed to have died in the attacks. However, it remains unclear as to whether she died as a result of 9/11, and a lotta questions remain. It's an incredibly enduring mystery, and honestly kinda sad too
The FBI didn’t ignore the guy requesting the disposable camera pictures, they claimed they had lost them.
I've never heard of that Children of God cult before, but as soon as I heard that crap about "God's love" my immediate thought was "This is a sex thing. Probably involving children. Aaaand, I was unfortunately right.
"God's love" is a nonsensical concept even in mainstream religion.
To be fair, cults almost always are. I think most people would think that as soon as they hear about any cult. Cultists are weirdos who use the 'cult' as an excuse for something else they want to do - usually involving sex and control.
@KalebDawson Based.
I only heard of it because of River Phoenix and Joachim Phonix being former members.
I learned about them from Red Letter Media lol.
I have seen the “lol Superman” many times. It wasn’t shot outside the trade centers it was filmed inside a smaller building below the towers. It was filled with glass breaking and screams . It was from a larger clip that used to circulate that showed about five people falling to their deaths. If anyone needs infor I can fill in the blanks I can describe the video well as I remember it very well. There were copies of it on UA-cam all the way up to the tenth anniversary in 2011. (That’s the last time I seen it ) it almost looked like a 90s mall with white tiles and large plants everywhere. Very sunny and clear and it was vhs quality with the time and date on the bottom and at the end it said the person who filmed it survived. Which means there has to be a hard copy of the full footage. I bet if you looked up survivors of the surrounding buildings you could get some leads .
I think you're talking about the Guy Rosbrook footage ua-cam.com/video/-F974UmEZC4/v-deo.html
Interesting, you know anymore specifics about the vid?
@@NoOne-bp4nt It was filmed in the millennium hotel by Guy Rosbrook, he managed to capture a fair amount of people falling and hitting the ground
@@Flixxy0 wow! I’ve never seen that footage you sent! Very cool . That’s not the video I’m speaking of, but it is very similar . The one I remember didn’t have the tracking noise but the environment looks similar except the Superman one was better lit and had plants everywhere . I also remember a woman with short hair and a white sweatshirt in the frame at one point and a security guard helping people out in the longer footage. Also the person filming at one point leaves some kind of threshold or doorway and points the camera at one of the towers and tries to zoom in on a window but it doesn’t focus. What I remember most is the quality of the footage. It was a lot clearer then a lot of the other 911 footage I had seen at the time. I do remember another rip of the “ lol superman” segment that someone re uploaded with like really unbalanced looney tune sound effects and an intro with their UA-cam name.
Also it should be said I’m not an expert on 9-11 I’m just a millinial that spent ALOT of time on early UA-cam. But 100% there was a video called “lol superman” that showed jumpers. I have no dog in this fight but I had a “hold my beer moment “ when I heard him say that some believe it was never a thing. I will say that image he put in the video (the screenshot) that was debunked, did look like it matched the part when the person fuming went through the doorway/threshold and passes the guard in black.
I believe that Lol Superman exists but I think it’s definitely possible that people are misremembering and combining both Jack Taliercio’s and Guy Rosbrook’s footage.
It does not exist … it allegedly shows gory scenes of the jumpers landing and popping on the concrete! There have never been gore scenes of jumpers landing. Otherwise they had surfaced on any of the gore pages … none every did … and all pictures were fake … took ages for authentic to surface.
I swear I remember watching a video by that title back around 2010. But it didn't show gore or I would definitely remember that. I think everyone is misremembering how gory it would've been
Yeah, was going to comment that I remember seeing something that looks like it labeled something like "The Jumpers" but I think it might have been a compliation of possibly unconnected suicide footage stitched with Taliercio’s. It wasn't Rosbrook’s because it was filmed from the ground for sure.
moment of truth literally sounds like a black mirror episode oh my god
after revealing the most gut wrenching truths ever, she wins the jackpot! Everyone stands up and cheers for her, nothings wrong. Smile for the Camera!
Fun fact about teddy: the tv series that was shown, is called (directly translated) Crime scene Norway. And the young man talking is a well known ski athlete and is now banned from competing due to him being addicted to coke.
I remember being in health class and my teacher telling us that the day 9/11 happened, (before he was a health teacher he was actually a teacher for inmates?) everybody just stood there and watched, class was cancelled that day. Everybody stood there in horror at what was happening. The day that 9/11 happened I truly believe it was a day of silence, thats how shocking it was. 9/11 is the saddest event that has ever happened in my eyes and everytime I see footage of it it’s so gut wrenching to the point that I have to look away or Ill have nightmares. Those jumpers did not commit suicide, they were murdered.
The scenario of the Soviet army killing an eternal and omnipotent being with rifles and a few T-54 shells is silly when you think about it
That’s actually to me the most disturbing story I’ve heard so far… Being someone who loves God I do agree it’ is upmost surely an illogical story.. very scary to me :😢
It makes it creepier to me. The idea that god had no strength anymore and had zero way to defend itself against simple bullets for whatever reason is very unsettling. There's also the image that went with the story that makes it even worse.
@@rockycuro7737 To me it's kind of silly because it's the type of BS the Soviet Union would made up for propaganda
and not just ANY eternal and omnipotent being,
Killing an Eternal and Omnipotent being that just so happened to create the UNIVERSE with rifles and a few T-54 Shells
Yeah, it’s patently ridiculous given all other notions of what/how God supposedly is.
The first story is very interesting to me. I am very proud of Melanie for speaking up about her abusive parents and community on TV, even while her family is present, and making a lot of money through it too. That takes so much courage. I hope she lives a better life now.
It is a shame that, due to it being lost media, there could be way more people living in similar situations who would have needed to see this recording to be empowered by it.
At least Blameitonjorge has made its existence known to the viewers through this video. Even though they might never hear it from Melanie herself they at least can hear it from Jorge as he is describing and reading what Melanie said. That's the closest to empowerment in my opinion.
@@arilumani6194 My thoughts exactly. This is why media preservation and channels like blameitonjorge are so valuable.
First story is about the FLDS church. You see it mentioned when he showed her blog. It's a well known community for doing messed up things
“courage”? she did it for the check.
@@masterBong1 Nothing wrong with getting money through it? It's still brave though. Her abusive family is right there with her. Don't act like it's not a big deal to speak up just because there is money involved. What shallow thinking.
"I know lie detectors are reliable"
Maybe in the movies, but in reality they're a bunch of bunkum. The wikipedia article alone is mostly about how they're not a "lie detector", so much as they are a tool for intimidation/interrogation.
Lost media is such a fascinating topic.
I mean, how do you just lose a film or show?
Normally because the people that own it want it lost.
For a very long time film and media preservation wasn't taken seriously if at all. Film was seen as a gimmick and a novelty for many years and was seen only for its profits not for preserving the work for future generations.
Most of the early examples of cinema are gone forever due to vault fires (with George Melies even burning his own films out of shame). I think the most notable example of this is the BBCs issue with lost doctor who episodes.
When Doctor Who first aired, BBC had no expectations for if it would succeed on television, let alone on home video. By the time they were pushing the series out on vhs, they became aware that most of the older episodes they had wiped in favor of new ones.
Lost media as it is largely stems from the fact that the exact media it preserves wasn't taken seriously for decades, if not the past century.
Media preservation wasn’t taken seriously for a long time. It was cheaper for TV studios to recycle their tape and record over existing footage in the pre-digital age, and many films were made on stock that wasn’t particularly kind to aging or improper storage. It also has a lot to do with the type of media: a film or a TV show could be on a master tape that’s shoved in a vault, and it’s lost because nobody in that studio has bothered to look for it because there’s no profit in it. Something like a video game beta could be stuck on an old hard drive that was taken out from a computer and hasn’t been touched in years.
Because it’s inevitable. Like anything in the world, people lose things, even things that shouldn’t be lost. Some however, I think, deserve to be lost for good
@@SpongeBobbin34 Jorge's lost media iceberg video had a lot of that. Like sure it's an interesting story but some of that stuff I pray is never released. Like Christine Chubbuck or anything related to Columbine.
I’ve gone down the CoG/Family International rabbit hole countless times over the last several years, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the redditor is correctly remembering a lost CoG show. They made a LOT of their own media (with some whole communes dedicated to creating it)! They were super music focused, and they still create and post children’s music videos in current times. Basically all media they consumed would be in-house, since they are/were forbidden from engaging with “The System” (outside society). The media from the og leader’s time was incredibly sexual, and encouraged csa, so there have been periods of self purging and censorship of the content to hide it from authorities. Iirc, there was a whole protocol set for destroying it if you thought your home was going to be check up on by authorities. Although there’s been an effort from CoG survivors to document the cult’s media, there’s absolutely stuff that was wiped out in the purges or lost to time as they tried to clean up their image
Oddly enough, I think I’ve heard of the show the op is talking about. I SWEAR a few years back on tumblr, there was a goofy gif of a lamb puppet going around, bc it was laughably pathetic, trying to run in the dark/a storm and falling. And I remember a reblogger adding context to it, explaining that it was made by CoG, and then the version of the post with the addition circled around. I’ll have to do some googling. Tumblr’s search system is infamously unreliable, and the blog I used then was most likely one of my old, deleted accounts. Hm.
EDIT: after some poking around, found it. Looks like the gif was from Treasure Attic, which I think was one of the ruled out CoG shows
I've been down the CoG/TFI rabbit hole myself for three years now and the horror of it still stuns me to this day. Ricky's story always breaks my heart, I can't even begin to process or describe what a tragedy his entire existence was. Karen Zerby (his "mother") and Sara Kelley (the woman who hurt him the most when he was little) are currently at large and both free women to this day. The whole thing is just mind-melting in how shocking, disturbing, tragic and infuriating it is.
That cult was very focused on the arts like many New Age cults of its time. Some of its former members include Rose McGowan, River Phoenix, and Joaquin Phoenix.
Oooh I'm gonna watch this now see if I can remember it ...I knew LOTS of media but some of it was forbidden to me because I dropped to FM around 1990, even as a 7 year old.
Have you guys heard of the SOS Japanese video? I believe they have ties with CoG. Redlettermedia did a video featuring SOS.
@@sachinmistry1 it's not tied to COG it is COG! I can probably recite many lyrics / sing any song from there. Trivia....the toy guns used by the "antichrist forces" chasing the "saved" through the woods during the tribulation. The barcode scanners were one of the new biggest "signs of the end" around that time...and I guess the "threatening" humanoid appearing robots that terrified those looking out for the beast of revelation and the antichrist with 666 in his forehead.
This video feels so nostalgic, it feels like I'm in 2017 all-over again good stuff man, subbed.
I feel terrible for the women and children in both of those religious cults. What a harrowing story. I hope both Melanie Williams and the OP who wrote about the sheep puppet show are in a better place and doing well today.
Thank you for your work as always, Jorgé. Your hard work and dedication does not go unnoticed.
I think only one of them was a religious cult, but yeah, I can't imagine growing up in that.
Yes the children are the victims. In the Children of God cult, a lot of the women abused the children just as badly as the men did. Ricky Rodriguez's mother and his nannies were his primary abusers
Why just the women and children? Are men who are hurt and destroyed by these cults not as deserving of sympathy?
@@RazorFriendly exactly. Not to mention, Ricky Rodriguez's mother is the leader and is free to this day and the nanny was a woman as well. They were perpetrators of abuse, yet people would be quick to lump them with the victims simply for the fact that they are women. Do better Nicole.
The manscaped sponsor being shown as a "pallet cleanser" after you talked about 9/11 and showed a man jumping off a building was some true black mirror stuff 😭
Could you not have put it at the beginning?
Palate cleanser*
I’ll always feel weird about sponsored videos being about dark subjects, like a raid shadow legends ad before talking about a murder.
@@MandenTV Based name
Totally agree on not going out of the way to find the so-called "LOL Superman" video - some things, even when they are just a rumor, are best kept in the unknown. To paraphrase a line from Wes Craven's New Nightmare: sometimes "It's what we don't see that gets us through the night."
It should be preserved for the sake of historical archival.
The teddy bear case is definitely interesting to me as a German, unfortunately I never saw the talkshow. Maybe I'll take a deeper look into the topic tomorrow
Kann es sein,dass die Episode einfach nicht auffindbar ist, weil sie nicht archiviert worden ist. Denn die Öffentlich rechtlichen, Archivieren (zumindest damals) ja ihre eignen Produktionen kaum.
@@marcovossenkaul8921 Es kann natürlich sein, es gab viele Fälle wo lost media nicht aufgefunden wurde, aber extra mal zu recherchieren schadet nicht, vielleicht findet es ja jemand doch...
@@relinquiem wäre aufjedenfall nice, alleine damit dieser Cold Case endlich geschlossen wird.
Btw cool, dass es auch deutschsprachige interessanten am lost media gibt.
@@marcovossenkaul8921 ich finde es schon echt selten dass deutsche allein was englisches gucken, da stimme ich dir zu. Leider ist unser UA-cam komplett anders und mit billigkanälen überfüllt, deshalb gucke ich nur fremdsprächige youtuber, aus meinem freundeskreis interessiert sich keiner für lost media u.s.w. und sie gucken sich stattdessen immer wie montanablack 300.000€ wegschmeisst oder so ;(
That "The momenth of Truth" reminds me of a similar program that was done here on Peru, called "El valor de la verdad" ("The price of Truth" translated literally). The dynamic was the same : A contestant who had previously gone through a polygraph test, makes it through different questions about him/herself , with the intimacy of the questions scalating one by one, so increasing the price you get. The thing is, for the first episode, they choose someone from the casting , which was a Open to all public. The chosen one was a Woman of only 18 years old , who revealed a lot about her past , her ex relationships, and also about having to rely on prostitution for living. Just some months later, on September 2012, that same Woman was found dead, murdered by her ex partner. Since that, the program was re worked, and now , all guests are celebrities / famous people from the national media, to avoid this type of controversies again.
Abolish sex work, protect sex workers.
The 9/11 footage
I was about 11 years old and remember watching raw live footage of news reporters trying to report while you could hear bodies hitting the ground around them and people running away in a panic. Saw a lot live on tv that day and doubt much if any of it will ever be seen again
I hadn't heard about the LOL Superman lost media but from its description I can say that I definitely did see a video like the one described back in the day. I remember how the bodies would grotesquely splash and produce this hard slapping sound as they hit the floor.
Jorge,
I first watched moment of truth when I was younger, in a channel called MBC. It is an Arab based broadcast that has several Channels, some in Arabic some in English.
Moment of truth was in English but with Arabic subtitles. That may be why you found some videos of the show in Arabic
What I do remember, some new episodes still aired in MBC despite on Wikipedia it showed the show was cancelled. And I do remember this particular episode was broadcasted on MBC cause it was the first and only time I saw someone win the full amount of $500K
There are some clips of the episode, including the final question on UA-cam. Sadly I too couldn’t find a full episode online either of this episode, but I’m certain a full episode was broadcasted by MBC long ago, and that the episode had Arabic subtitles
MBC4
I remember finding lol Superman back in 2014 on liveleak. Never clicked on it but I remember seeing that thumbnail on there. According to Reddit, it basically disappeared sometime in 2015.
I grew up in & live in Utah. Polygamy isn’t accepted by the general public, but it is still extremely common. I have absolutely 0 doubt in Melanie’s story. I have personal friends who have experienced the same & worse. One friend’s father (in the late nineties) was locked in a shed in the winter for several months for trying to leave polygamy, & he only got out because he was broken out by the family of this friends mother. My coworker (who I worked with literally 20 minutes ago) grew up polygamist & was even on the Sister Wives show because she is friends with one of the daughters in the family. For everyone wondering why law enforcement can’t do anything, it’s quite simple: the areas that have the most polygamists are corrupt, many of the polygamists even work in local law enforcement & government. Many of the polygamist groups are also extremely wealthy because they own large regional companies (one I know of is a food industry supply chain based in Salt Lake City). That all being said, most of the polygamists I know are perfectly normal, well adjusted, modern…but pretty much all these polygamists have some ties to the highly conservative & dangerous groups that exist. For many of them, polygamy is more of a cultural identity, polygamy is just how they grew up, & they are otherwise normal people.
tbh I've heard so many similar stories I'm actually more surprised to find out that what I thought was well known about the messed up things in these communities might not be. It's probably worth mentioning though that it's not just polygamy that's the issue, it's messed up manipulation and control over people's lives that leads to a whole bunch of issues
I’ve seen polygamists around my hometown in ut we had to move down the street because they would stand outside our house at night sometimes and throw stuff at our windows because we were mexican. The patriarch is in jail now for aggravated assault.
That doesn't make sense. How is it not accepted but extremely common. Sure if it's extremely common many of the general public participate.
@@Dolphinboi you have to understand utah is extremely mormon influenced corruption runs deep in the religion. I dont see anything wrong with people following their religion but on the politics side not so much
@@munkimoto2294 Mormons are one of the most bigoted religious groups out there. The one I’ve interacted with asked if I was gay and when I said no he said good. Clearly the religion doesn’t instill good values.
My memory regarding the "LOL Superman" video is way different than that of the other witnesses though. I recall seeing a short video when I was little of a jumper hitting the floor. But in my memory it was a very short video, and you didn't really see all that much apart from the body impacting the floor at a pretty low resolution. I remember it being too fast and unclear to properly see it, but it was clear enough to see a body hitting the ground. the only part which I thought was disturbing was the sound of the impact rather than what I saw. The sound could be considered quite "clear" compared to the footage. I can only explain it as a "thud", that sound is what I remember very clearly. It was very upsetting mostly because of the audio combined with the video. There were no "exploding bodies" like some claim. Just what appeared to be red mist and the body impacting the ground. The video was for sure a lot more up close than the 2 only available video's showing impacts (I found those 2 on reddit but they are not the ones I remember).
It wasn't the one where the person hits the lamppost, or the one showing the floor where bodies lie.
And I also don't recall there being any sort of funny name like "lol superman". That doesn't mean it wasn't the title or maybe even a re-upload, but I don't recall it being named that. Mainly because I searched for jumping people, not for superman. I am quite certain it was on youtube though, this was before I even had an account.
Edit: It obviously could have been a video uploaded back then of a totally different jumper from a different moment in time and the uploader just mislead everyone, or just a total fake edit of some kind, althrough I highly doubt that from what I remember. but I for sure remember seeing and mostly hearing this. The video was very short that is for sure what I remember. I am usually extremely good at finding content and even go as far as browsing the dark web for it, but I cannot find this specific video. I did find some pictures on reddit of the same area I *think* the video was shot from, but obviously many more people were there that day so this proves nothing.
So I wanted to give info about the Moment of Truth episode as I saw it when it was available on YT at the time and know some of its backstory. As mentioned the original video was from a Saudi where all the unaired episodes were aired (which is weird considering how conservative that country is)(UPDATE: It was also aired in UAE). It was an episode that started typical enough for the show where the least offensive of the 21 questions were asked first. It wasn't until half-way through when the polygamist community came out and it was easily the most uncomfortable and cringy the show got. I'm 100% sure that someone (more than likely a game show fan) downloaded the episode. I think the several reasons it hasn't be reuploaded by anyone is fear of being copyright striked and ire of the game show community because they frown upon controversial stuff like that.
Thanks i thought i was crazy. I seen it on UA-cam with over a hundred thousand views less than 2 years ago.
It was aired on MBC which is a very popular tv station across the middle east and north africa, usually they censor or remove kissing or s3x scenes but they keep pretty much everything else and sometimes they just don't translate what's being said if it's not PG.
If it was on UA-cam maybe it's on the Internet Archive
It was aired across MENA on MBC4, it was also subbed in arabic and had re-runs. It was quite popular. This episode was heavily promo'd
Maybe it wasn't titled "LOL SUPERMAN" but I definitely remember a 9/11 video circulating of victims falling to their deaths and striking the ground. Not like the "falling man photo" which is at a stark angle to the tower. The video was far grainier and filmed fairly perpendicularly to one of the sides of the towers. I remember the bodies hitting a broad gray/white surface, possibly concrete in a construction zone. Yes, the blood splatter was extremely upsetting. Not sure if this is the same as "LOL SUPERMAN" but if there truly is no other video of the victims like this, then this video was it. I remember the video semi-tracking the first victims falling, but after a while just focusing on the impact area. I hope this helps whoever in their search, even if I never want to see it again. For the sake of public record I wish you luck in your investigation.
@@bla-t Maybe? I remember the ground being cleaner and some sort of equipment near the bodies like storage containers or construction equipment or something. It's been 20 years so I could just be mixing this up. Appreciate the suggestion
@@suddenwall you might be referring to 9/11 footage by Guy Rosbrook. it was filmed high up in the Millennium Hotel, so they were able to look down and see the bodies of jumpers (there isnt much detail, however it is still a horrifying image). there is also a part of the footage where the camera follows one of the jumpers down, smashing through the roof of the stage. the footage is still on youtube
@@darkerdadorito4022he is talking about the jumpers hitting the concrete
@@suddenwall
I have relatives who were involved in Children of God. It makes me sick knowing they were involved and it’s extremely difficult to reconcile how I felt about them and knowing the sick things they were involved in.
Thank you for introducing me to a much bigger and interesting world full of misteries, Jorge. Some day I'll find out something myself 🧐
Melanie's story breaks my heart. I don't know if this episode should ever be found.
At least she had a good reasoning, that she explains herself, for wanting to go on the show and expose that awful community
It's fake.
@@IAmFromTheYear why do you say so?
@@IAmFromTheYear"it's fake" shut up do you know anything about her or the show in general or are you just trying to be a contrarian?
@@dippin4dots misogyny
i also wanted to add, since i just watched a video that also covered the melanie moment of truth episode, before she answered the last question, they asked her if she wanted to, and she said "i'll do it for my dad". and then the question was asked, and she said yes, she thought he had. a lot of people theorize that she thought answering this could get her dad properly arrested.
another thing is that there is a clip of the father being interviewed afterwards, saying something along the lines of "i don't think i knew what a minor was at the time, that was a long time ago" or something similar, which makes the whole situation even more fucked up.
in peru a woman was killed because of her participation in the local version of the moment of truth
I don't think it's bad that some of these things are 'lost forever', honestly.
For sure. Or at least, if they are to be found, I rather they remain in the hands of professionals, like police or forensic specialists. The internet honestly cannot be trusted with sensitive footage in the slightest.
@@gothicMCRgirl yeah and tbh I understand morbid curiosity to a degree but I hate people who actively search for videos of people dying just for the fun of it or to send to others. It's why I'm glad a lot of these are lost
good for you jit
I think this show should be brought back. Some people need to be confronted in these ways maybe it could educate people and prevent such awful abuse
It’s weird how this channel is so full of people who claim they want to erase history and avoid the uncomfortable. There must be something Freudian to it.
Melanie needed that and I applaud her for having the courage to step up and speak out
16:25 - 23:18 I buy this being legit, because The Children of God/Familly International Cult is the same one that made that "S.O.S." video (most famously reviewed by RLM).
So they clearly have... interesting outreach techniques.
how can people make fun of people that jump into their deaths because they are so desperate and scared? some humans are really absolute scum
They're stupid NPCs, they're usually white people[ incest/neanderthal genes]
Old internet was unhinged
@@wasted6459 "unhinged" is the nice way to put it. A lot of the "old internet" was made up of the most annoying people on earth finding a place where they could be edgy and obnoxious without consequence.
@@SissypheanCatboy You say this like “new internet” is any different.
@@wasted6459we should bring it back
13:28 Smartphones weren't a thing in 2001, that's true, but there were actually few phones with rudimentary digital cameras capable of recording videos. Granted, the quality wasn't very good (closer to the gameboy camera, albeit with color), but it was possible.
I feel like 9/11 lost media brings out two very different types of people - those who want to simply document an event that effectively changed the United States forever and those who just want to see gore and are mostly interested in seeing the impact and aftermath of the jumpers specifically.
We're in a point in time right now where 9/11 was recent enough to be heavily documented but far enough away to where younger generations can distance themselves from it and not quite understand the gravity of it all similar to the kinds of people who argue over if Titanic "deserved her fame" because "other shipwrecks had more deaths" completely ignoring that it isn't a game and we aren't keeping score but they feel like it's fine to talk like this because it was "a long time ago". They're desensitized to it and letting fascination get in the way of understanding that it was an awful human tragedy strictly because They're too young to be emotionally impacted by it.
Precisely. I met so many Gen Z-ers who didn't know/care what 9/11 is. To some, it's a joke even.
As a Gen Z who was too young to remember 9/11 at the time, for me, I'm fascinated by 9/11 because of nostalgia. 9/11 was the end of the era of peace that the fall of the Soviet Union gave the world and the end of the hope that the start of the new millennium gave the world. 1992 to Sept 10, 2001 was truly a lost era that was stolen from us. It was a completely different world that us young people never got to experience. I really wish that I was old enough to see the Twin Towers in person because they truly were the symbol of that lost era. The new WTC will never compare to the original. The new one is a shell of its former self. It just feels a collection of basic buildings rather than the iconic symbol and landmark it's supposed to be. It lost its soul after 9/11. Personally, I wish we rebuilt them. The memorial pools are nice, but I really wish the Twin Towers rose again next to them.
I'm a bit of both when it comes to 9/11 footage. I want any and all lost media from that day to be found and documented, but at the same time, I've always wanted to see what it was like when the jumpers hit the ground. I guess it's just morbid curiosity
@@eaterofspidersWhat part of Gen z? I was born shortly after 9/11 and my dad saw the towers fall, being in NYC closely, I'm well aware of the gravitas of it all.
@@SStupendous Gen Z in Europe.