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  • @blameitonjorge
    @blameitonjorge  Місяць тому +3957

    Took some time off just to de-stress a little + learning PSX graphics in blender, which took a while but was fun. Videos *shouldnt* take this long to make, but I’ve been leaning more towards conspiracy and true crime content again, which are always grander in production. Next video should be lost media-ish :3

    • @kswaes
      @kswaes Місяць тому +18

      thank you

    • @rhedosaurus2251
      @rhedosaurus2251 Місяць тому +71

      Have you seen the recent Nickelodeon documentary "Quiet On Set" by now? Because I think we also need a new Nickelodeon video as well.

    • @sleepyturtwig
      @sleepyturtwig Місяць тому +29

      Glad to have you back Jorge, good that you took a break, these videos do taking a lot out of you. The man myth legend that got me into lost media since I was in high school and now a graduate in college with degree in culinary arts

    • @nivr-lime
      @nivr-lime Місяць тому

      W

    • @ivanmorello868
      @ivanmorello868 Місяць тому +17

      Please do a follow-up video from your dan Schneider one with the new stuff that was brought to light.

  • @N4chtigall
    @N4chtigall Місяць тому +6051

    I love that they wanted to use: "we thought that the studentst were gang members"... So just because you suspected they were gang members you executed them on the spot without any prior identification? Yeah, makes perfect sense.

    • @chacrax6
      @chacrax6 Місяць тому +336

      even then, if they were gang members they still opened fire to unnarmed people

    • @theoddlemon408
      @theoddlemon408 Місяць тому +248

      That’s the Mexican police for you. And people in the US talk about police brutality

    • @__rm307
      @__rm307 Місяць тому +39

      @@chacrax6and how would that excuse the torture practices?

    • @crimsonite09
      @crimsonite09 Місяць тому

      these degenerate freaks always resort to redtagging and dehumanizing students. absolutely terrifying.

    • @biggestastiest
      @biggestastiest Місяць тому

      even if they were gang members, even if they were smuggling heroin, they didn't deserve to be killed, period. they were students.

  • @paulmoranfull
    @paulmoranfull Місяць тому +9497

    It has to be an international UA-camr talking about this on detail, if this was uploaded by someone in my country that person would be dead, thanks for talking about Ayotzinapa

    • @Undertalepotatochip
      @Undertalepotatochip Місяць тому

      We’re the documentary people killed?

    • @Undertalepotatochip
      @Undertalepotatochip Місяць тому +178

      Are the documentary people okay?

    • @kingludwig_ii
      @kingludwig_ii Місяць тому +85

      @@Undertalepotatochip Yes.

    • @PiroKUSS
      @PiroKUSS Місяць тому +165

      You're exaggerating. Mexican UA-camrs don't have the balls to talk about it, that's all. They just copy whatever American UA-camrs do.

    • @HavianEla
      @HavianEla Місяць тому +1048

      ⁠@@PiroKUSSdo you live in a cartel-controlled part of Mexico? If not, your opinion here REALLY doesn’t matter.
      Cartels are horrifying, and not recognizing them as the threat they are is entirely foolish and will get you in trouble. Always overestimate your enemy, not underestimate.

  • @vicbaez
    @vicbaez Місяць тому +5399

    As a mexican I just needed to read the number 43 to know which story you warr going to talk about.

    • @kittyythecat
      @kittyythecat Місяць тому +232

      Same. I knew exactly what he was going to talk about. It feels like an "open secret" to Mexicans.....

    • @oscarguerrero178
      @oscarguerrero178 Місяць тому +25

      Same here

    • @44SWAGNUM-MAGA5
      @44SWAGNUM-MAGA5 Місяць тому +25

      yo tambien

    • @AADP
      @AADP Місяць тому +12

      we are missing 43...DAYS FOR SPRING BREAK!

    • @basketguitar9768
      @basketguitar9768 Місяць тому +24

      ​@@AADP☹️

  • @serenitymousse5506
    @serenitymousse5506 Місяць тому +2923

    Sounds like the Government doesn't want the populace to figure out they not only work with the Cartel and other crime organizations. But fund and form the organizations themselves.

    • @Relentless_Venture
      @Relentless_Venture Місяць тому

      Ummm the populace knows....they are not stupid. We all know. Lol it's not something you just discovered today. You're about a few decades too late

    • @applewind9318
      @applewind9318 Місяць тому

      You would be surprised but we know all of that. Is an open-secret and the only ones who still deny it are usually political nut jobs.

    • @kameronjones7139
      @kameronjones7139 Місяць тому +146

      Oh yeah you don't get that powerful without government help

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Місяць тому

      @@kameronjones7139exactly

    • @videlvasq
      @videlvasq Місяць тому

      They're in large part one and the same. It's like how you see right wing nationalists marching here in the states and people ask "Where's the police to stop them?!" They're among the ones marching...

  • @almendraman
    @almendraman Місяць тому +4014

    *Two details not found here that are worth mentioning:*
    There was one more bus separate from the ones rendered in the simulation, also ridden by students, that ran into a completely different blockade *right in front* of the Palace of Justice in Iguala (the head legal department of the county). This proves beyond reasonable doubt that this was a coordinated attack, *they were waiting for them*.
    To add further insult to injury, the security footage of six different cameras from the Palace of Justice building was conveniently reported missing, and per the official report "Not important".
    (Look it up as: "Los videos destruidos de las cámaras del Palacio de Justicia en Iguala." One of multiple good videos on Iguala by Forensic Architecture)
    Second, another government officer pinned as a probable mastermind of the cover-up is Tomas Zeron, former head of Mexico's criminal investigation agency. Zeron fled to Israel, as many other criminals have, for full immunity under their government. He fled before there was hot water on him, he knew what he was doing. They refuse to extradite him despite many pleas from Mexico's government.
    Thank you for this video, Jorge.

    • @Colddirector
      @Colddirector Місяць тому +1

      Of course it's fucking Israel that takes them. Guess they wanted to try something new between all the child murder and hospital bombing.

    • @multilad816
      @multilad816 Місяць тому +69

      Wondering if they are regretting to live in Israel given October 7th.
      Did they use Israel's Law of Return to move into this country?

    • @ebox147
      @ebox147 Місяць тому

      Why would they regret living in a safe haven for criminals? Lol
      Just stay away from not occupied palestine areas and youre golden

    • @kenw2225
      @kenw2225 Місяць тому +212

      Lol it's always them.

    • @Cyynapse
      @Cyynapse Місяць тому +184

      *insert joke about him working for the IDF here*

  • @TheBestofJuan
    @TheBestofJuan Місяць тому +1691

    absolute disgusting display of corruption from both the government and cartel associated with this event. As a mexican that was brought to america, it saddens me that my family's country is so dangerous and hard to live in. respect to the journalists that gave their lives to cover this and respect to the people that protested this

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Місяць тому +12

      The American government needs to just step in. It’s only going to keep getting worse and worse until the cartels start doing the same thing here in the u.s

    • @apanda
      @apanda Місяць тому +59

      @@Tampafan33tbh American government have tried to step in, presidents such as Trump have offered aid and military support to stop these cartels but president of Mexico declined.

    • @moriah5027
      @moriah5027 Місяць тому

      @@apanda REALLY? wtf man it's like they just wanna drive mexico into the ground

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Місяць тому +20

      @@apanda oh i know. But there comes a point where the American government should protect the people south of the border and say screw the Mexican president whos paid by the cartels. Cartels are killing people in Arizona and california now way more often. Both Americans and especially Mexicans need help and its time for the government to step in wether the Mexican president says so or not

    • @sierraamaya
      @sierraamaya Місяць тому

      @@Tampafan33 American goverment was the one to build and allow drug cartel to flourish. No body is a "Capo" without a friend in the usa embassy.

  • @missdramatica2604
    @missdramatica2604 Місяць тому +1471

    I remember when the students disappeared I was working at a boutique where the owners were from Taxco, a neighboring town of Iguala. The lady who I worked with, her husband and son still lived there. They were once kidnapped by police and taken to a house where they were tied up to poles with a bunch of other people. The kidnappers found out that the husband was a taxi driver and eventually let them go. I believe that the government there is in cahoots with cartels. The mayor and his wife were no doubt involved in the kidnapping. This is a case that haunts me to this day. Those young men only wanted to make a change in this world, they deserve justice.
    Edit: thank you guys for the likes! Another story I wanted to share was how the lady who I worked with, her daughter told me this horrific story. She went to the club with her boyfriend and ran into a good friend of hers from school, they pretty much grew up together. He was with some people she didn’t recognize and she sensed that their energy was off. After a few drinks she said bye to her friend and went home with her boyfriend. The next day that same friend she saw at the club was found in pieces on the side of the road.

    • @alexlestat
      @alexlestat Місяць тому +58

      Unfortunately government officials, military, and police are easily brought off by cartels. The people know this, and it's one of the many reasons for animosity.

    • @051melly_ym
      @051melly_ym Місяць тому

      Thats all cap old lady

    • @mim_mimm
      @mim_mimm 28 днів тому

      the government there and the government everywhere in mexico. this is not a safe place to be in

    • @lainiwakura1776
      @lainiwakura1776 28 днів тому +6

      You believe? Dude, it's a known fact.

    • @batchagaloopytv5816
      @batchagaloopytv5816 22 дні тому +1

      @@lainiwakura1776ok dude 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🙄🙄

  • @Melalink
    @Melalink Місяць тому +1108

    I am from the most dangerous city in Mexico, crime ruined everything that was valuable to me, it fills me with impotence that the government decides to make every horror story in my home less so. I miss when I could go out without fear that I would be one more victim just for living there.

    • @apanda
      @apanda Місяць тому +12

      There was a time where it was safe? Certainly had to be before 90s

    • @Melalink
      @Melalink Місяць тому +73

      It worsened during 2012; in the 1990s the situation was more under control.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers Місяць тому +11

      I'm so sorry.

    • @heyizz
      @heyizz Місяць тому +7

      I hope one day peace is achieved, but I hope more than anything you can leave as soon as possible.

    • @giovanigonzalez2130
      @giovanigonzalez2130 Місяць тому +1

      No digas mmdas

  • @tomastorres1531
    @tomastorres1531 Місяць тому +1334

    I have extended family near the site of the mass grave burnings, i was in highschool here in the US at the time and i remember my aunt calling my mom about the burning of something near the dump site, it sounded like conspiracy gossip but it still trips me out that they were talking about the missing students at length and they prayed and hoped their parents would see their kids one day. Igualas a beautiful place, but money, politics, crime and power leave a horrid stain on its heritage.

    • @BoomBoom-ym5oy
      @BoomBoom-ym5oy Місяць тому

      Forgot to say
      Thank you colonizing Europeans

  • @PTS-Maid
    @PTS-Maid Місяць тому +1001

    I'm an american with mexican parents. And i remember hearing about the "43 estudiantes" on tv all the time growing up. Ofc i was a little kid back then and didnt understand much but it really is sad and what always would get to me was the the moms holding up pictures of their sons crying and demanding justice.

    • @teogonzalez7957
      @teogonzalez7957 Місяць тому +29

      I was a kid back then too, in Mexico. I got the basics of the event and remember teachers wearing those black ribbon things, but I never got many details partly because of my age and partly because we didn’t know much back then.

    • @erenjaeger1738
      @erenjaeger1738 Місяць тому +20

      Lol, this comment makes it seem it happened 30 years ago lol XD

    • @catsandalcohol99
      @catsandalcohol99 Місяць тому +6

      Bro it has only been 10 years. How old are you?

    • @PTS-Maid
      @PTS-Maid Місяць тому +13

      @@catsandalcohol99 Currently 19, I will be 20 this summer.

    • @teogonzalez7957
      @teogonzalez7957 Місяць тому

      @@catsandalcohol99 I’m 20.

  • @falcon_arkaig
    @falcon_arkaig Місяць тому +738

    It sickens me that people can be so cruel to fellow people. That one victim you described having their face skinned... that crap disturbs me. Some people truly are heartless. I have a strong suspicion the Mayor had something to do with this, maybe even the Mexican Government.

    • @Skowl3883
      @Skowl3883 Місяць тому

      With so much corruption within Mexico, to say the government had involvement in this incident is probably a reality, unfortunately.

    • @Blue-mr7fe
      @Blue-mr7fe Місяць тому

      They are all in on it, only solution now is outside intervention, theres a reason the mexican government opposes the US in lableing the cartels as a terrorist organization, powervacumes be damned look how el salvador solved it by using their military for or a full on war against their criminal organizations

    • @alessandrolira4035
      @alessandrolira4035 Місяць тому +44

      It's very easy to lose your humanity once you fall into the pit of the criminal underworld unfortunately...

    • @magnoliasalazar
      @magnoliasalazar Місяць тому +9

      Yep, it was the state.

    • @Blue-mr7fe
      @Blue-mr7fe Місяць тому +4

      They deleted my comment

  • @Marzipannn
    @Marzipannn Місяць тому +369

    There is no justice. My father worked as a newspaper photographer for years in sinaloa, and the number of times he was given the ultimatum between taking a bribe or getting murdured is insane. I have no doubt that there's more information somewhere being silenced for the sake of survival

  • @alphadragonwolfwarrior6373
    @alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 Місяць тому +488

    This is one of the most saddest and horrific cases of being in the wrong place at the wrong time I think I ever heard.

    • @a-ghost-named-Anna
      @a-ghost-named-Anna Місяць тому +1

      ** sad

    • @alphadragonwolfwarrior6373
      @alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 Місяць тому +44

      @@a-ghost-named-Anna Not the time or place.

    • @Yharnamite_
      @Yharnamite_ Місяць тому +29

      It's depressing how many mass murders take place in Mexico, look up the 2011 San Fernando massacre. It makes me so nauseous.

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Місяць тому

      Stfu this was targeted on purpose. Stop with that bs

    • @LunarRobotyx
      @LunarRobotyx 20 днів тому +2

      @@a-ghost-named-Anna🤓

  • @billblaski9523
    @billblaski9523 Місяць тому +408

    Its crazy how many people outside Mexico never heard of this

    • @yadinavarro9810
      @yadinavarro9810 Місяць тому +7

      I live in new York city , im not mexican and i heard about it when it happened.

    • @aquaUI
      @aquaUI 29 днів тому +22

      It’s sorta silenced from what I know. If you report it you’re a target, no?

    • @Frx-dm1wd
      @Frx-dm1wd 29 днів тому +21

      because Mexico is not the center of the world and way worse things happen in other less developed and dramatic countries

    • @desmondkincaid4054
      @desmondkincaid4054 28 днів тому +1

      hasn't there been other mass disappearances in mexico?

    • @alejandromaturana6628
      @alejandromaturana6628 28 днів тому +16

      ​@@Frx-dm1wd not really unless you are talking about a country with an ongoing war/civil war, also its a dramatic situation, this should not happen

  • @drawin.kuties
    @drawin.kuties Місяць тому +499

    I remember this incident when I was in preparatory, teachers warned every type of student high school through university level, to not go to any organized protests. Not only for safety but really you can't trust the environment you'll be in.

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL 9 днів тому

      Sad

    • @taniajimenez8863
      @taniajimenez8863 4 дні тому +1

      Me acuerdo que mis profes nos sentaron a todos en circulo para hablar del caso. Fue la primera vez que tuve una sensacion horrible de impotencia y enojo de lo que es este país.

  • @jerrysmith8814
    @jerrysmith8814 Місяць тому +798

    Been watching the guy since 2014. Jorge was actually the first English speaking UA-camr I got into. Love you man

  • @amadisdegaula1411
    @amadisdegaula1411 Місяць тому +281

    Being a journalist is a job that no ensurance company will back you for in Latin America lol; hope justice comes soon for my mexican brothers and sisters, specially for the families that can't have peace; greetings from Peru

  • @InzidenzPanik
    @InzidenzPanik Місяць тому +306

    As a Mexican its kinda eerie seeing the Ayotzinapa case covered in non mexican media, especially in a non national mystery channel.
    Just as terrifying to remember as it was to hear about it the first time.

  • @do0m819
    @do0m819 Місяць тому +142

    How can you have so little respect for the life of your own country men, your brothers and sisters...its so sickening.

  • @nataliella97
    @nataliella97 Місяць тому +196

    you say this is conspiracy oriented but I think this is just a criminally underreported story. there's a difference, and I'm glad and impressed that you're bringing this journalism to global attention

    • @patrickenos7206
      @patrickenos7206 Місяць тому

      The disconnect here is that you think conspiracy == schizophrenics talking about flat earth. This is quite literally a theory about people conspiring to do something. Check out "the boys on the tracks" if you want to hear the American equivalent

  • @elmaster48
    @elmaster48 Місяць тому +115

    27:00 pretty much, in fact there is a town called Cheran that its known because its population kicked out the goverment and police and stablished their own goverment and militia, suddendly all the drugs, kidnappings and murders went away.
    the cartels and the mexican goverment are one in the same.

  • @greenboy770
    @greenboy770 Місяць тому +178

    I was only 15yo when this all took place. I remember those first protests by the victims' families, who were at first hopeful that their sons and brothers were just missing and waiting to be found. It was heartbreaking when fragments of the truth started to come out. It's a case that showed us something we kind of already knew: every level of our government is in on it. There's no hope of beating organized crime. The grip they have on our country is near absolute and perpetually brutal. These poor students hijacked the wrong bus, and just like them, we too have to live in fear of making the "wrong move" or angering with the wrong people. People forget than not everyone involved in these organizations is a willing participant. A lot of them are forced to aid criminals with their money, vehicles, properties, and showing any sign of resistence means punishment. You could be living a normal honest life, but as soon as you have a bit too much influence / money, you will be in their sights.
    Now as a 25yo student of politics and communications it's easy to give into despair. I still believe my country can achieve peace. Probably not in my lifetime, but we can certainly lay down a path for others. Thank you for covering this story.

    • @luisacruz8684
      @luisacruz8684 Місяць тому +12

      Main reason why I quit my dream of being a journalist or a detective, Imreally like the idea of being alive

    • @Jay-on2on
      @Jay-on2on 17 днів тому

      @@luisacruz8684yea no amount of detective skills will help u unless u got bodyguards or Bruce Wayne bucks to keep from being a easy target

  • @berond2118
    @berond2118 Місяць тому +1059

    I like the low poly models it fits the gloomy vibe!
    Its nice seeing his videos improve a lot in editing

    • @rossjohnstone4689
      @rossjohnstone4689 Місяць тому +25

      Amen to that. I love PS1 feel.

    • @dixierekt8096
      @dixierekt8096 Місяць тому +20

      I saw a UA-camr named Maverick Files doing something similar and honestly I'm all for this trend

    • @ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow
      @ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow Місяць тому +19

      Human trafficking is literally crash bandicoot

    • @dixierekt8096
      @dixierekt8096 Місяць тому

      @@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow when you think about it prostitution is the Silent Hill of sex

    • @multilad816
      @multilad816 Місяць тому +4

      I'll miss his old models, but it is necessary for his channel to innovate and improve

  • @pass_
    @pass_ Місяць тому +524

    the empty chapter select in the description really adds to the eeriness, though that's probably not intentional

  • @apexpredator9021
    @apexpredator9021 Місяць тому +230

    I’ve heard of this case before but never fully grasped the severity and corruption.. this video fully captured that. Well done!

    • @kittyythecat
      @kittyythecat Місяць тому +33

      Mexico is VERY corrupted. I love my culture. It has wonderful food, beautiful music and clothes, along with how we put our soul into the arts. However, there is so much corruption with the police and the government that it feels "suffocating" sometimes. My tio is a historian in Mexico. He has a long belief that the revolution has never ended. Only that its taking a looong pause until the people once again rise up.

    • @Needler13
      @Needler13 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@kittyythecatlol that means it has ended and the cartel won

    • @apexpredator9021
      @apexpredator9021 Місяць тому

      @@Needler13 I think it’s more complicated than just the cartel winning… where there is demand there will be supply. Mexico is one of the leading providers of drugs all across the world= we are pumping them with money for them to pump us with product.

    • @behurastudio
      @behurastudio Місяць тому +10

      @@kittyythecatwonderfully said! Cartels and Corruption are the biggest shames of Mexico, we’d be light years ahead if it weren’t for them. Here’s hoping Mexico will one day be unshackled from these burdens!

    • @Lunar994
      @Lunar994 29 днів тому

      Same

  • @RUXCKLENEITOR
    @RUXCKLENEITOR Місяць тому +167

    Thanks George for spreading this.
    FUE EL ESTADO
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    IT WAS THE STATE

    • @Frx-dm1wd
      @Frx-dm1wd 29 днів тому +8

      Y cada vez votas por quienes solo le dan más poder al estado

  • @applewind9318
    @applewind9318 Місяць тому +75

    I want to comment to that the Military REFUSED to give any aid or documents that could lead to the students everytime they were asked to by mutiple organizations, parents and the like.
    It only shows how deep rooted the problem is withing this forsaken country and I'm glad you are covering it, don't let Mexico forget their sins.

  • @exodiatheforbiddenone186
    @exodiatheforbiddenone186 Місяць тому +157

    Just seeing those moms with the banners of their missing sons just makes my heart ache. Justice for all 43 missing students.

  • @LilBobbyBrickHands
    @LilBobbyBrickHands Місяць тому +244

    Great job of shining some light on this event! The people of Mexico deserve better than the government that they're getting

    • @Frx-dm1wd
      @Frx-dm1wd 29 днів тому +1

      El gobierno actual usó Ayotzinapa como parte fundamental de su campaña...que no te acuerdas??? Por eso estamos como estamos

  • @alejandroestradaflores1783
    @alejandroestradaflores1783 Місяць тому +98

    As a Mexican citizen living in Tijuana, it's difficult to explain how, in just 16 years, I transitioned from being shocked by news of murders and dismemberments to simply feeling numb to it. It's disheartening because it's become a common phrase in my city: when a violent crime occurs, people say, "What a surprise, another death. How is this news?" It's hard to understand how something so tragic can become normalized overnight. Truly, it's a sorrowful reality. I suppose it's a consequence of money and corruption in goverment. At least thats my opinion

    • @Boostiverse
      @Boostiverse Місяць тому

      Maybe if citizens had a way to protect themselves and the government had balls then the cartels wouldn’t be running the country

    • @timidate374
      @timidate374 Місяць тому +6

      @@Boostiverse i'm sure it's much more nuanced than how you put it, considering the cartel is pretty much equaling the power of the mexican military at this point.

    • @circleancopan7748
      @circleancopan7748 21 день тому +1

      As you can see, Cartel members are as much armed as the local Mexican Police.

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL 9 днів тому

      Tijuana doesn't sound all that different from where I live

  • @newfleshrecords
    @newfleshrecords 29 днів тому +68

    ".....outside of a warzone" hits really hard right now :(

  • @oscarguerrero178
    @oscarguerrero178 Місяць тому +96

    I’m a 1st generation Mexican American studying to be a teacher. I was in Mexico with my family this past summer, and I remember seeing posters of the students in a town plaza. It’s nice to see that they’re still remembered.
    I’ve known about this case for years, but never really took the time to look into it other than reading a couple of articles on it. I appreciate the video. Mexico is a beautiful country unfortunately run on rampant corruption that goes all the way to the top. Here’s hoping that more justice comes soon to all those lost. ❤

    • @PiroKUSS
      @PiroKUSS Місяць тому

      Mexico isn't beautiful, it's a shithole.

  • @nath6557
    @nath6557 Місяць тому +180

    As soon as I saw the title I knew this was about the Ayotzinapa Students Case

    • @luisacruz8684
      @luisacruz8684 Місяць тому +8

      I believe that now on forward the number “43” will be always in the mexican conscience, a number like the date of October 02 of 1968 will be always remember

    • @LizziesEditz
      @LizziesEditz 29 днів тому

      ​@@luisacruz8684 As soon as I saw that I knew what it was. Tlatelolco

    • @LizziesEditz
      @LizziesEditz 29 днів тому

      September 19th, 1985?

  • @Dodge844
    @Dodge844 Місяць тому +66

    Not even gonna lie, I would absolutely love to see more mini documentaries in this style. The ps1 style graphics that you used to help tell the story are a unique idea and really awesome.

  • @danialdirty5656
    @danialdirty5656 28 днів тому +36

    too bad as im writing this, mexico is only getting worse and worse by the day, i live in a small town and the police abandoned it, they don't take calls here anymore since the violence is out of control.

  • @pex320
    @pex320 Місяць тому +53

    As my mom was from the same state where this happened, I remember she was on the phone nonstop, talking back to her family when this happened. It was crazy.

  • @afterhourscinema782
    @afterhourscinema782 Місяць тому +75

    These cartel guys are REAL TOUGH, aren't they??
    K-lling unarmed students, how "badass"...

    • @enorma29
      @enorma29 Місяць тому +2

      imagine if they didn't unalive them.
      they would have been seen as weaker than unarmed students.
      like they'd let that happen.

    • @owlman_
      @owlman_ 28 днів тому +30

      @@enorma29 This is youtube, not tiktok. You can say murder, kill, assassinate, etc.

    • @aetherland1883
      @aetherland1883 26 днів тому +5

      @@owlman_ Not for so long

    • @Octomimicus
      @Octomimicus 14 днів тому

      Cartel men also engage in homosexual relationships and think it’s “macho” and not gay. Not the smartest culture

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Місяць тому +68

    Dude your work is unreal. The fact you created PSX visuals to display the story you are telling is absolutely amazing! It's such a refreshing way to convey visual story telling. I love this genre of graphics. Random but I really wish we could see a resurgence of games that are inspired by PS1, Dreamcast, PS2, N64, Xbox type games. The gaming industry really needs to realize they are totally out of touch with their fan base, customers. The AAA game industry has gone to crap and more people are going back to previous Gen games. They have to open their eyes to that & figure out what all this means in the gaming industry.. Anyways I really appreciate your level of creativity and dedication to learning and making things. Have a great day dude

  • @Raccoonmeat
    @Raccoonmeat 26 днів тому +15

    I married into a Mexican family and I can confirm Julio César Mondragón was my sister-in-law’s cousin… they knew he went missing with those kids but it’s really sad to hear what happened to him… From what I’ve heard he was a very nice guy, he didn’t deserve the torture he received… :(

  • @OutFreak28
    @OutFreak28 Місяць тому +117

    Geez, i've never clicked in one of your videos this quick before. I think its interesting to see what people outside of my country thinks of these events.

    • @thewalrus511
      @thewalrus511 Місяць тому

      It’s sad but not surprising. Mexico is a mafia state and any attempt to change that will result in massacres.

  • @SakuraR17
    @SakuraR17 Місяць тому +35

    Also note, Jesus Murillo Caram gave a press conference and all reporters kept asking him lots of questions bc many of his declarations were inconsistent, so the conference extended and he whispered to someone behind the scene “ya me casé (I’m tired)” so people were outraged bc they perceived it as him being tired of working on the investigation, hence the “Ya me cansé” hymn began

  • @ProfVaharrak
    @ProfVaharrak Місяць тому +156

    Thanks for this video Jorge. Ppl outside of Mexico might be unaware this case is actively used by the current government as propaganda, but nothing is being done in a strategy as old as time for mexican politicians, "blame everyone else, never let you/your party be accountable".
    You might even be surprised to hear the shameless and rampant corruption and incompetence of authorities caused yet another student to be murdered this year, raising the unofficial count to 44. I assume every country has their own dirty laundry, but damn, what the current administration has done to my dear homeland has no name.

    • @SumHandballPlayer
      @SumHandballPlayer Місяць тому +3

      Current? Didn't this happen with Nieto. AMLO is just all talk

    • @marianacamacho7026
      @marianacamacho7026 Місяць тому +4

      I am no fan of AMLO but dude, previous administrations have been WAY worse... and Iguala, happened under Peña Nieto.

    • @Frx-dm1wd
      @Frx-dm1wd 29 днів тому +1

      @@SumHandballPlayer literally AMLO used Ayotzinapa as important propagandistic element for his campaign. The same Ayotzinapa students had strong violent political motivations..but stating that would spoil their position as victims

    • @SumHandballPlayer
      @SumHandballPlayer 29 днів тому +3

      @@Frx-dm1wd lmao blaming the students

    • @NoeAHerrera
      @NoeAHerrera 26 днів тому

      AMLO based a large part of his campaign on that. And they didn't end up helping them in anything, they were just pawns in their proselytizing.

  • @KazuhiraMiller46
    @KazuhiraMiller46 Місяць тому +79

    I instantly knew this was about the missing students, everything about this case is disturbing and very mysterious. Lots of cloak and dagger type of activities

    • @TWJCole
      @TWJCole Місяць тому +3

      The title didn't give it away?😂

    • @derpkipper
      @derpkipper 29 днів тому

      ​@TWJCole no?

  • @sheyny
    @sheyny Місяць тому +100

    Thanks for talking about what happened in Ayotzinapa #43

  • @iliannaisreading
    @iliannaisreading Місяць тому +25

    Thank you for bringing light to this case. I come from Mexico, and these types of cases are only the tip of the iceberg. Stuff like this and the women of Ciudad Juarez are swept under the rug in Mexico. Still boils my blood that a very prominent figure behind this case is hiding behind a certain country which rejects the Mexican government's request to bring him back for a trial. Very few documentaries come into my mind that explain all the details of the case. I hope that eventually Mexico is able to become a stable and beautiful country, as it always should have been. Once again, thank you so much for bringing light to this case.

  • @CezaMVO
    @CezaMVO Місяць тому +12

    This incident will never leave me. It motivates me to work hard to give my people a better way of life. Thank you for covering this story George 🙏 🇲🇽

  • @somthing7286
    @somthing7286 28 днів тому +14

    I love that more UA-camrs are drawing attention to Mexico and speaking on serious matters that the rest of the world never find out about. I recommend you read up on "Gloria Trevi", a famous singer and performer. At her peak, she was considered Mexico's "Madonna" until it was revealed that she and Andrade groomed, abused and r*ped underage girls under the promise of fame. A very disturbing case that I never hear spoken about outside of Mexico.

  • @berniekatzroy
    @berniekatzroy Місяць тому +12

    Mexican-american (American above all) here, I was born in the States and lived in Mexico during my very early childhood. I'd go back as kid during the summers, and stopped in the early 2000s as things got more dangerous. Mexico is right there below us and people here in the states don't realize how good they have it nor understand what real fear is

  • @Imanmagnet00
    @Imanmagnet00 Місяць тому +231

    Man the comments here are very disappointing. While I appreciate Jorge videos as much as the next guy, especially this one that covers one of the worst tragedies in my country. The people in here just for the "vibes" aren't especially comforting. Remember that behind every video documentary about a mystery there's victims that affected by it to this day

    • @fidelio9301
      @fidelio9301 Місяць тому +28

      They are Americans what do you expect

    • @bluepikman7851
      @bluepikman7851 Місяць тому +28

      ​@@fidelio9301Americans see international tragedies as a spectacle istg

    • @exiles4503
      @exiles4503 29 днів тому +4

      @@bluepikman7851aren’t you American?

    • @Randomthings24637
      @Randomthings24637 28 днів тому +3

      Vibing fr fr

    • @bluepikman7851
      @bluepikman7851 27 днів тому +5

      @@exiles4503 I live in the U.S cause both my parents are immigrants but otherwise that's as far as it goes.

  • @paucalderon8326
    @paucalderon8326 Місяць тому +13

    Thank you so much for covering this case! I was a university student when this happened. It changed everyone’s life perspective when it happened. We as university students are told about the massacre of 1968, but sometimes it seems so far away, that even when people protest to this day and we even have a day to remember it (the phrase being “2 de octubre, no se olvida”) people in general feel like those type of things cannot happen anymore. But the 43 students case was a cold and hard slap in the face to bring us back to the reality: We live in a corrupt country. It doesn’t matter if you’re a student, a teacher, a reporter, your life doesn’t matter to the government.

  • @TheDude8008
    @TheDude8008 Місяць тому +46

    I read 43 and immediately thought about Ayotzinapa

  • @IVVTT
    @IVVTT Місяць тому +35

    I sincerely hope this video get as much attention as your other videos because you did a phenomenal job. The animated scene with the loud roaring fire actually stopped me in my tracks. It was haunting and I felt added that much more to your words. I also appreciate and respect what you added in the last portion of the video. I hadn’t heard of John Gibler before so I will now look into him and his work! I feel even though I’ve heard about this case over the years I learned a lot from this video. Thank you for dedicating a video to this topic. 🌞❤️‍🩹

  • @agonistadenoche7806
    @agonistadenoche7806 Місяць тому +128

    These type of videos make me feel like the caricaturized version of a Mexican, you know, wearing a zarape and sombrero, sleeping beneath a Cactus, with an empty bottle of tequila next to me...accepting the brutal reality that no matter how old I get, who is in charge of running this country, what happens in the world or what gets invented next, stuff like this is what I've grown used to, and nothing can guarantee that one day, I will feel safe in my own country, and I can only help but to implore to whatever superior being beyond for me and my loved ones to never be one of those thousands of yearly victims of violence in Mexico who never get any justice, not even post-mortem.

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Місяць тому

      If you guys were smart you’d come over and buy American weapons and take your country back

    • @wax_axiom479
      @wax_axiom479 Місяць тому +57

      ​@Tampafan33 yeah good luck with that when your neighbors wife is kidnapped and he's forced to give away information about you. You don't even have the faintest idea what the cartel is capable of

    • @alessandrolira4035
      @alessandrolira4035 Місяць тому +35

      ​@@Tampafan33bro has never had to deal with a criminal cartel in his life lmao

    • @agonistadenoche7806
      @agonistadenoche7806 Місяць тому

      @@Tampafan33 if you were smart you'd stop selling guns to the cartels and buying their fentanyl, but ok

    • @Delnyque
      @Delnyque Місяць тому +30

      @@Tampafan33where do you think the cartels get their weapons from?

  • @maxneaves
    @maxneaves Місяць тому +65

    I love to see more videos about Mexican cases and incidents. People outside of Mexico could definitely learn a lot about the country's past and current political and social state.

    • @sarahmiscellaneous521
      @sarahmiscellaneous521 Місяць тому +15

      As an American without any personal ties to México, I absolutely agree. I assumed for the longest time that the cartel was primarily compromised of low-level street gangs, with only a few big men on top. I didn’t fully understand what a pervasive hold on the entire government they have, directly using high-ranking politicians as puppets. I won’t act like we don’t have corruption in the US, since we obviously do, but the pure brutality and gaud of the cartels is horrific.
      It absolutely breaks my heart to know my country’s neighbor is in such a state. At the very least, I can clearly see that the people of México still have plenty of fight in them, and I’m sure you’ll all prevail against these bad actors in time.
      ¡Viva México y sus hijos!

  • @andyteofilo1924
    @andyteofilo1924 Місяць тому +21

    Ive been to that small town were they found the student bodies and the trail that leads up to that area. If you try going up there they ask you what are you doing there and why you want to go up there. So there is still people keeping a lookout in that area. I went there beginning of this year in January.

  • @Peringon
    @Peringon Місяць тому +34

    The case is still a hot button issue in Mexico and, sadly, like most stuff around here it has been used as a piece in a larger culture war between the more conservative sides of Mexico and the leftist government we are under currently.
    While it’s true that many showed support for the families of the 43 and disgust towards the institutions which allowed the death of the students, an equally large number of more conservative mexicans have expressed their disgust towards the students; some going as far as saying their killings were the result of their own actions.
    Mexico in general has a complicated history with protest movements. It’s enough to get you depressed of living in this crap hole.
    Great video Jorge 💕 hope more people get interested in the topic.

  • @feren9984
    @feren9984 Місяць тому +26

    I never knew how deep this rabit hole went. I remember seeing this in the news with my abuelita. Never knew how bad it was as corruptions goes. 😮

  • @margeebechyne8642
    @margeebechyne8642 Місяць тому +14

    This is such a terrible tragedy! And the people who were supposed to prevent these things were right in there in on it! My heart breaks for these young men and their families! RIP 43 souls

  • @fakefreckles6253
    @fakefreckles6253 Місяць тому +23

    I never thought I would see a day in which Jorge would talk about los 43 estudiantes de Ayotzinapa.

  • @greyblueme9711
    @greyblueme9711 Місяць тому +58

    Yes! Finally someone talked about this case! Every time I asked a youtuber if they'd report on it they'd say they were either scared or that someone else had already reported on it. It's such a cruel incident, the news reports are heartbreaking but because they're all in spanish not many know of it.

  • @molotera8789
    @molotera8789 Місяць тому +24

    Remember kids, the state did it!

  • @user-tc4qw6gl3h
    @user-tc4qw6gl3h Місяць тому +47

    recently got diagnosed with cancer and have been a little down and bored lately but seeing that you uploaded made me happy. keep up the good work

  • @zucumberzeez
    @zucumberzeez Місяць тому +18

    Justice for all of the victims 🙏 Love the new editing style and that your branching out from lost media again 💯

  • @caslunar4188
    @caslunar4188 Місяць тому +10

    I live near the US-Mexico border and I remember first hearing the news about Los 43 Normalistas de Ayotzinapa. Despite being ten years old, I knew that the students were dead. Everyone knew that something fishy was going on as the news covered the kidnapping and that the government, police, and military were involved somehow. I think a book even named several people who were a part of the crime with the informant obviously being unknown.
    It's sad how the rotten the Mexican government is. The country itself and the culture is beautiful, but its beauty is tainted by the rot of corruption and greed.
    People are asking why Mexican UA-camrs don't talk about the case. Well, like many have stated before, they could get killed for talking. Nana Pelucas, a UA-camr who was technically a journalist, was executed because of her videos.
    EDIT: I think you mentioned the book in question haha. I agree with the theory that the bus was carrying drugs that the students had no clue about.

  • @Smoothskin_H8r
    @Smoothskin_H8r Місяць тому +16

    Thank you so much for making this - hope for closure for these families is fading and anger is increasing as the next election is coming up and without a conclusion from this administration, the next one will have to start all over again IF they can be convinced to launch another investigation. Thank you for contributing to raising awareness and contributing to an important discussion.

  • @lesflaya
    @lesflaya 25 днів тому +9

    I came to the comments to thank you for using real cool graphics made obviously by an artist instead of hopping on the ai train like I've been seeing so many youtubers do lately - just to find out that you learned all of that yourself!! That's even more cool. the graphics look great, and really helped keep me invested and able to follow along, keep it up!!

  • @ACartoonFanUwU
    @ACartoonFanUwU Місяць тому +36

    Mexico is such a grim and dark place....
    And i'm mexican too

    • @user-sq5eg8vz6j
      @user-sq5eg8vz6j Місяць тому +9

      Don’t worry dude, the whole world is grim and dark. I seen and witnessed terrible things and live in the United States.

    • @dr_popcorn
      @dr_popcorn Місяць тому +6

      @@daggers101 this is true, but constantly comparing and having a competition about who has it worse is only ignoring the issue

    • @derpkipper
      @derpkipper 29 днів тому +2

      ​@@user-sq5eg8vz6j...dont be that guy.

    • @missplayer30
      @missplayer30 19 днів тому

      I refuses to believe Mexico is that dangerous when the other Latino countries exist.
      At least Mexico is right next to the richest, most prosperous country.

    • @mugiberry2972
      @mugiberry2972 11 днів тому

      China?

  • @greenman5229
    @greenman5229 Місяць тому +14

    I hate the cartels, I cant even go back to see family because I fear of how bad things are. BTW if you are a Mex Journo DONT announce what you are going to report on, just be quiet until the story is out...

  • @cr0wcrumbs
    @cr0wcrumbs Місяць тому +6

    Hi Jorge I just wanted to say your recent work has been absolutely incredible and I’m loving the focus on Mexican cases. It’s really cool to be able to watch videos relating to my interests and to my heritage. It just means a lot to see such a big Mexican youtuber talking about Mexican cases. Thank you for putting these videos out there.

  • @alinemartinez7459
    @alinemartinez7459 Місяць тому +14

    The continued coverage is appreciated.

  • @fluffcake
    @fluffcake Місяць тому +8

    It’s absolutely disgusting how this case was made cold. And how incompetent and corrupt not just the police force but the government is.

  • @kenw2225
    @kenw2225 Місяць тому +39

    Sounds exactly like what every government would do if the right circumstances arise. Some are worse than others , but I feel all are one protest away from doing this type of thing.

  • @dulceleon3181
    @dulceleon3181 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so much for covering this.. many people dismissed this and moved on and I still think about those missing people…

  • @moonscesssss
    @moonscesssss Місяць тому +2

    Im so glad you’re covering this case!! I don’t think a lot of people know abt it so thank you for brining awareness to it!

  • @SpaceKat.79
    @SpaceKat.79 Місяць тому +8

    I remember when this happened, man it shocked me and my parents so much. Some parents of the 43 actually came to a university in my area to spread awareness. Till this day this case still gets to me. I hope one day all those guilty can be punished, but sadly considering how corrupt my country is, I wouldn't be surprised if they never do.

  • @detleffleischer9418
    @detleffleischer9418 Місяць тому +10

    I just wanna add that the Special Prosecutors assigned to handle this case recently was forced to resign his position and flee to the United States because the Army and Navy ministries pressured President Lopez Obrador into stopping his investigation.
    Why?
    From the initial investigations under former Attorney General Karam it was noted that the 27th Infantry Battalion is stationed at the entrance to Iguala and logically SHOULD have heard the gunshots but refused to mobilize. There were withheld documents showing that top local commanders were taking orders from the local Guerreros Unidos Cartel, and that they also had a cozy relationship with local police forces.
    When the Inter-American Court heard of this they dispatched a team to investigate the allegations but were also stonewalled and stalked by the Army, in fact their phones were tapped via Pegasus software and multiple investigators reported being threatened, stalked by Naval Infantry units, or straight up arrested on charges of terrorism to prevent them investigating the Army connection.
    Multiple interviews were conducted with Army, Navy and State Police forces, but before they could be used at trial or be released to the public the President ordered them sealed due to "national security concerns", and thus the statements were completely and totally censored.
    Last year someone leaked the footage of the bodies being dumped in Cocula, and it showed that Cocula wasnt even the burial site, they were planted there by a local unit of Marines before the Federal Public Ministry even were notified of the case.

  • @nett6051
    @nett6051 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for covering the case. I only heard about it briefly and am glad to hear that there were charges held against various people involved

  • @arynajera2001
    @arynajera2001 29 днів тому +6

    😭😭😭 it’s so sad. I’m from Guerrero, Mexico and it’s so dangerous. I hope their souls are in peace.

  • @Saltheslab
    @Saltheslab Місяць тому +26

    I was just wondering when you were posting again. Glad to see you upload man.

  • @bdarecords_
    @bdarecords_ Місяць тому +16

    Why do we call it "mass kidnapping" when it clearly was mass unaliving?

    • @snibag
      @snibag Місяць тому +33

      because still most of the deaths are not confirmed, suggesting that they could be in human trafficking or aslaved

    • @fangthedergon1863
      @fangthedergon1863 Місяць тому

      Because we are a race of thin skinned mfers

  • @lilangel1773
    @lilangel1773 Місяць тому +6

    Oh wow I never thought I'd see this brought to light by such a popular channel, especially an American based one with predominantly english speaking. Thank you so much, no one not even in Mexico speak on it, let alone given that they can are typically targeted by the Cartel (most subdivisions) and our Government. They have targeted journalists, reporters, famous celebrities who speak. Thank you so much. I pray for your safety and to continue to thrive and prosper through YahWeh for bringing the darkness to light and exposing the wickedness in this world. 🙏🏼🌻

  • @MiloLamar
    @MiloLamar Місяць тому +7

    I was a student when this happened, I lived in another state far from Guerrero but still, a pack of students from my high school made a march in support of the 43 students, I participated and I can tell there was a very tense atmosphere being around some policemen with guns and pushing you from time to time for the only reason of “stay in the lane we supposed to”
    Nothing to scary but still a very dangerous situation due to the recent events

  • @jamesmckuen
    @jamesmckuen Місяць тому +3

    All I can say is, "Damn!" Thank you for coverage of this. I had heard a bit about it but I didn't know how bad it was. So sad.

  • @nowheredude4204
    @nowheredude4204 Місяць тому +61

    You must be very brave to cover serious and dangerous topics people can't inform about in Mexico
    My respects

    • @fidelio9301
      @fidelio9301 Місяць тому +4

      It’s been covered on UA-cam before

    • @ForkInTheRoad33
      @ForkInTheRoad33 Місяць тому

      Maybe Mexicans need to grow a pair

    • @derpkipper
      @derpkipper 29 днів тому +1

      ​@@fidelio9301 and?

    • @fidelio9301
      @fidelio9301 29 днів тому +2

      @@derpkipper So he’s not brave. It’s just a UA-cam video

    • @Frx-dm1wd
      @Frx-dm1wd 29 днів тому +1

      Of course speaking about Mexican violence in such a naive way as Jorge did can only happen outside Mexico...

  • @beastghostt
    @beastghostt Місяць тому +5

    The visuals are excellent. It's interesting how this low-poly style can convey such an sense of unease that's almost universal. You've used it very effectively here.

  • @derek-yh9ml
    @derek-yh9ml Місяць тому +49

    Oh boy, it’s another good day when Jorge posts something, even if it’s serious, it’s something worth to watch

  • @stellinam4199
    @stellinam4199 Місяць тому +30

    Thank God. I was going into withdrawal. Welcome back, king

  • @nauj976431
    @nauj976431 19 днів тому +2

    As a Normalista, I want to thank you for talking aoubt this subject. Some of the 43 students were in my school helping us with some activist activities we were having in our own Rural Teachers College. Just a month later they were killed. It was a hard time to be a student.

  • @foolishfool8683
    @foolishfool8683 Місяць тому +38

    Thank you to calling this issue. I hope one day the victims can get justice.

  • @AmusingLuis
    @AmusingLuis Місяць тому +3

    Awesome video. been a huge fan of your work for years. thanks for covering a heavy topic like this

  • @ollyflashman
    @ollyflashman Місяць тому +4

    your work has paid off mate!!! videos look awesome now, thank you for the effort you put in for us

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Місяць тому +1

    This is making me invested in more missing persons' cases. You just don't get tired of learning more about the case in-depth. The more information you receive, the more aspects to this case you understand as time goes on.

  • @melanierakoczy2229
    @melanierakoczy2229 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for sharing. Hope you are well Jorge!

  • @bioshock8695
    @bioshock8695 Місяць тому +8

    Oh wow, it's good to see you Jorge! I can't wait to see where you go with this video

  • @innbydelse
    @innbydelse Місяць тому +4

    Lost media is fine and all but THIS is where you shine my guy!

  • @fancifulgamer28
    @fancifulgamer28 20 днів тому +2

    I'm just grateful that, regardless of the amount of time it took, justice and closure are finally being brought to the surface in the face of such a despicable tragedy. For a country that's rife with greed, Mexico is full of good people with voices loud enough that they cannot be ignored.

  • @sarahtelles1931
    @sarahtelles1931 Місяць тому +19

    Stuff like this is why people in countries south of the US border are trying to find work and refuge in America.

    • @Tampafan33
      @Tampafan33 Місяць тому +8

      It’s also how cartels come in though sadly. They use the cover of just wanting freedom

    • @sarahtelles1931
      @sarahtelles1931 Місяць тому

      @@Tampafan33 no they come through underground tunnels where they can also now legally buy weapons in Texas and then take them back to their countries to use on people

  • @colinjanssen7147
    @colinjanssen7147 Місяць тому +7

    Haven't watched the full video yet but I wanted to see the animation is such a bonus to visualize a situation that otherwise has no footage. Even if it’s a recreation or a simulation it's still very beneficial for the story overall.

  • @FoxyGal18
    @FoxyGal18 Місяць тому +4

    OMG Jorge I was so worried something happened to you it's been 4 months! Thanks so much for uploading again!