Have you met vocalists? Cause I'm pretty sure that's what most tenor and sopranos have to go through. As a baritone I had to go through that😅. I got used to it eventually
Blynq that reminds me of when one time I had the hiccups during a live performance at Houston and at the time I was playing bass clarinet and I was the only bass and the piece had like a 2 line solo after a 30 second repeat of whole notes and a quarter rest, so when I got to the rest I couldn’t take a breath because I freaking hiccuped so I literally turned nearly purple because I pushed out all of my air to play all of it... and that’s the time I nearly died 🙃
On flute, once you get to a higher level of skill it really does become the slow stuff that becomes the hardest. Regardless of whether or not fast and complex scales and patterns are easy, the fact is most composers give all of that to primarily the flutes. Flutes are the "shimmer on top," which basically equates to tons of very fast scales and patterns played usually as at least 16th notes or faster. So fast stuff becomes not all that hard unless it's also hard for another reason. Because your air doesn't go directly into the instrument the way it does on most wind instruments, it takes a ton of air and breath control to play long, drawn out passages and long notes, especially with so much volume and so much of a change in dynamics. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't mean that all that fast stuff is easy. It's just been beaten into us so much by every composer and ensemble ever that it becomes less difficult than a number of other things very quickly.
^ This. Give me a run requiring double tonging over anything with super long drawn out phrases. What people don’t realize about flute it that you are basically playing a highly engineered soda bottle. Trying to maintain constant pitch and tone quality over very long phrases is actually in many ways much harder than the stuff that sounds virtuosic to non-flautists. As an example, if I need something easy that I can play well without practice or warmup off the top of my head not having played it for years, I’ll probably do a variation on Carnival of Venice that involves tossing in a bunch of fast (but easy) octave jumps or if I’m feeling a bit more ambitious, arpeggios. Impresses all the non-flautists. If I need to convince someone who actually plays flute that I really do play proficiently I’ll probably first play some quick scales, to get the flute warm enough that it doesn’t sound like crap (they’ll wait ‘cause they get it) and then do Dance of the Blessed Spirits. There’s lots of harder stuff out there than either of those pieces for sure, but the point is that even among the “back pocket repertoire” the easier sounding piece is actually sometimes harder to do well because flute is weird like that.
Personally, I disagree with this. I've got great lungs so breathing and keeping tones aren't very difficult for me. But I had to quit playing after 7 years because my hands got exponentially worse and worse with each year. In the end, it was nearly impossible to play 32nd notes at 240 bpm, but I tried my best to play them anyways. I really shined with the drawn out phrases, and I was the only one who carried those parts. It made me feel like I was still useful to our concerts. I greatly miss being able to play music. I didn't realize how passionate I was until one day I realized I would have to sell my flute, since I can't play it anymore. Even holding it hurts my wrists. Seeing prodigies being able to play fast notes makes me really happy, because they reached something I was forced not to do. I will always appreciate the "shimmer on top". I'd give anything to be able to be that again.
TRUE! im only and intermediate flute player but i used to play game with some mates where they would have to guess which songs are in a higher grade. They would all pick the fast paced songs because they sound more 'complicated'. for me long notes feel harder to maintain in terms of sound quality and slower songs feel more intentional and sound terrible if i mess up xD in a couple of years im sure this perspective may change tho.
OH MY GOD fellow flautist here who hates transposition. I was given oboe parts and I always had to play them an octave up and even THAT was awful. HOW DID YOU LIVE?!?
As a clarinetist, in my high school chamber orchestra I constantly was reading off oboe and viola parts, and even occasionally bassoon (sometimes off sax when helping out the band too), so I can sight read off any of those. Transposition is tough at first but really useful to get good at
none of your business let’s see... YT rewind, the virus, Kobe Bryant’s death, and all the other crap. You seriously think it’s a good start to the year,
I've been a trombonist most of my life, and yeah, that tone is godly. Even hitting the correct notes in that piece is impossible for mortals, so to sound so clean on top of it is just incredible.
As a trumpet player I'm disappointed that they never made it to the part where Vizzutti rotates his trumpet during the last variation. The part hands down crushes everything else
When I was in yr 9 at school I played trombone for the school band and I was the only trombone player in the band, we were a small band, so I had so much pressure and we had to play a hard piece and I was so nervous, but I totally nailed it according to my band mates and my teacher and I breathed a huge sigh of relief😅. But that guy was a BOSS though!!!😅😯
Remember that an oboist also has a reed in their mouth that they're trying so desperately not to break. First time i tried circular breathing i both broke my reed and threw up. Bad day all round 😂
Also they need to get rid of the CO2 buildup so it's not just breathing in, but breathing out that's an issue as well. You just can't expel enough air through that tiny reed.
@@MissCaraMint yep! Thankfully my oboe teacher didn't feel it was necessary for me to learn after that 😂 to be fair I've never needed to use it yet in my career!
I love reading all of these comments about how Brett and Eddy don't appreciate how hard the brass/wind stuff is but, in their defence, the best musicians are the ones that make the hard stuff look easy and all of these musicians are PHENOMENAL
@@jonash3251 Well, who doesn't? At least I don't know anyone who dislikes Widor's 5th... Looking for a challenge? --- Try it on the piano, and I guarantee that it's quite rewarding once you master it. These 16ths are pretty hard to play on weighed keys...
1:16 I've actually met him in middle school, as my middle school band director was friends with him. He did play the trumpet upside down, it was pretty cool. We also asked him to play the loudest sound he could play on the trumpet, and I remember him turning around, facing the whiteboard with his back to the band, and blasting out an ear rape note. He did this because according to our band director, "if he was facing the band your eardrum would have been ripped".
The vibrato on the trumpet is not a placebo, actually. By moving his hand like that it actually very slightly changes the pressure of the instrument against his lips changing the pitch. Some trumpets like to do mouth or diaphragm vibrato, but that is another way too.
Michael Moon that’s really interesting, I had just assumed that it was actually an instinctive/placebo type thing. I’m a piano player, and I know a fair few of my ilk who sometimes try to get a vibrato by wiggling the key side to side.
Not only that but the different methods of vibrato produce different tones I feel. There are some pieces where vibrato using your fingers wouldn’t be appropriate and same with mouth. Using fingers can be more subtle too.
I play the harmonica (both diatonic and chromatic) and I have to say the Paganini of our world is Howard Levy. The guy invented overblows and overdraws, which unlocked all the potential of the instrument. Imagine half the violins notes were locked out and one guy came along and figured out how to use all of them in the span of a few years, that’s what Howard Levy did.
Let’s ge an F for the French horn C for the basson, euphonium/baritone, timpani, bells, marimba, ect., an Eb for the alto and bari sax, a Bb for the tenor sax, bass clarinet, and finally, whatever percussion plays in for percussion. Also for the other instruments.
@Emilia P i know, that i didn't mention every missing instrument, but this were the ones, that i immediately thought were missing (for a full orchestra), and also it would've destroyed the joke
As a bassist, that last one literally TERRIFIES me. The shifting alone and playing that high is a pain, but that good of intunation at the same time is pure godliness.
I actually saw Øystein Baadsvik (the tuba player) in concert once - he was a guest soloist at a small, local concert. I think the piece you watched in this clip showcases a few cool and unique techniques, but not so much his real skill and musicality. When I saw him, he told a story of how the producers of the TV show House M.D. once came across a clip of him playing a solo, and were so inspired by it that they based part of an episode on it!
personally, as a clarinetist, the closest analogy to paganini was hermstedd. He had 4 concertos written for him by spohr, at a time when the clarinet was newly invented. Normally, pieces are written for the instrument with the instrument's limitations in mind. However, spohr did not do this. Consequently, hermstedt had to invent techniques to be able to play the concertos. Hermstedt was also famous for his virtuosity, which you noted that the stravinsky pieces, while technical, lack.
He wrote 12 caprices that challenge every cello student. The example they used is maybe the easiest one. Piatti also wrote concert works that are so technically demanding they are almost never played or recorded.
@@nicholasbagley3707 I hate 😤 Kelpy G with all the power ⚡of my soul 👻 He was such a POS 💩 in that episode‼️lame😒ass🍑hippy ass🍑 douchebag 😩🤮 he's not even a real musician 🎶 he plays jazz 🎺🎷
The technical side for the clarinet piece is solely based on the fact that there are so many octave breaks, in my opinion. It’s incredibly hard to keep your sound clear and consistent when you are going through them, especially from treble clef mid-staff A to mid-staff C. That transition is known to be a hard break to clear because you go from essentially 0 fingers on the clarinet to ALL fingers on AND you’re going up in pitch, not down. Your air suddenly has a much longer way to travel to make the appropriate sound, so it often breaks and squeaks, especially at the speed that he was playing. It’s a lot easier to clear the break when traveling down the scale than up it.
They were saying the piece wasn’t as musically impressive as others. They assumed the technical side was up there but concluded it wasn’t “Paganini enough”.
The difficulty in the clarinet piece is the range of octaves covered in just a few bars. Everyone knows of the clarinet squeaks in all the starter bands and intermediate bands and usually it is caused by jumping between octaves, even by one, let alone 3 or 4 😂 It takes years to train your embouchure and breath control to reduce or eliminate these squeaks so literally any piece like the one that boy played is mind blowing to a clarinetist 🙌
For his age, that is really good playing. However, the piece itself is not close to the most challenging repertoire for the clarinet. Then you have to look at the Jean Francaix concerto, the Carl Nielsen concerto or something of that caliber
Nah squeaks and large jumps are not really an issue to anyone but beginners. Stravinsky is really not even close to being the Paganini of clarinet. There are plenty of extreme pieces, this isn't one of them
Barbara there’s definitely a disconnect between the wind instruments and strings players. The whole concept of breath control and embouchure never really “click” until you have to do it.
Well I kinda am with you but i have to disagree with you because i also play clarinet and i cannot say that in any aspect the clarinet is harder than the violin main reason is because in the violin there is just so much to worry about at the same time and so many different techniques that you really need to dedicate yourself to learn violin well (not criticising anything i am just giving my opinion)
@@mattsnyder4754 i cried in my trumpet practice sessions for the first year. After that i played for four more years and head 1 solo Concert. but seeing other artists at that age (i was 14) be as insane as Professionals made me resign. Since the true Instrument Control seemed impossible to me
As a trumpeter, Allen Vizzuttis chillness is the most impressive thing for me - he plays insane stuff making it look like it's absolutely nothing? We also performed fnugg blue with my uni brass band and I was so impressed
Dja Aggron dude french horn, basson, and many other instruments most people forget about, you kinda just have to get used to never seeing your instrument
Yes; I started the trumpet about six months ago. Large interval jumps are a piece of cake on the flute, and I've been frustrated that the trumpet doesn't make it as easy.
@@2NiceyAckerman a trick my old band director taught me, as he was a trombone player, is to sit for a little bit and just sit on open valves, low c g c e, and just practice for a while slightly tightening youf lips until you hit that next note. And then hold it for as long as you can. It will help with 2 things. 1 it will help with breath control and 2, it will help you build that muscle memory of how tight you embouchure should be. Another trick i learned is to sit with just your mouthpiece and just go up and down the scale. It should end up sounding like a really bad siren. Progressing further, you can eventually get to where you cut off your breath between notes. When doing that, try to work on the breath cutoff using the throat. Its more efficient and the tongue method will typically staccato your notes. But by far my biggest tip is just practice using just your mouthpiece. Typically i will warm up for a few minutes doing that as well.
Wind instruments are a whole different beast in terms of technicality than string instruments, simply because there are so many sounds you can produce with your breathing. For example, most if not all brass instruments can be played polyphonically with at least one octave. In addition, there are mechanical limitations to the construction of the instrument that aren't present in things without physical keys.
The "didgeridoo" sound you hear is called multiphonics. This happens when you play one note while singing the other note into the tuba. This is very difficult to do well since you have to pay attention to the intonation of two notes at the same time constantly.
We had a guy come into our band class that did this while beat boxing and it inspired me to briefly learn how to do this multi-tone thing with my voice where I can sing one note and then other notes on top of it but it’s really hard to hear tbh
Trumpet: “The flute’s part isn’t /that/ hard, they just need to play longer phrases! What’s so hard about that, it’s just 6 bars!” My director, a trumpet player: “flutes use just as much air as tubas, but get half the sound. Be kind to them, they struggle with things you can not understand.”
Really tho, I'm a flutist and we aim our airstream ACROSS the hole and and the air splits to create the sound, so air is lost and goes over the plate that we place our lips on. The rest of the air doesn't even go INTO the instrument itself
I'm also a flute player and sustaining that note with that dynamic for 6 bars is very hard, and catstuffies tran is right half the air is lost everytime a flute player plays. I've attempted to play sphynx, and I definitely can say that there is a struggle with sustaining a long note like that. It's all about keeping the air flowing through the tone hole as best you can. I do wish that I could circular breath, but unfortunately flutes don't get the luxury.
Clarinettist in the video: *flexes in 3 octaves* Me, a clarinettist: *flinches with pure anxiety and phantom pain in pinkies and thumb* Twoset: That did seem all that hard. Me: Am I a joke to you?
The musician playing Stravinsky at 7:35 is called Han Kim. He’s a Korean prodigy clarinet player who I happened to go to school with. Needless to say my mediocre attempt at Für Elise on piano was slightly overshadowed at recitals...
One of the musicians I went to school with is really big in porn now and so sometimes his butthole appears on the screen when you pause a pornhub video. 😐
as a flutist who's performed syrinx: it is not technically diffifcult. it's all about interpretation.. dynamics, rubato, and vibrato. for more technically challenging stuff: go through anything by briccialdi - and not just carnival of venice. madness. absolute madness. he's more of a paganini: he's just flexin.
As an oboe player I have to say that playing the oboe 100% is a workout. I'm no where near as good as he was, because just changing doing a scale in one breath makes me feel like I've run a mile!
@@isidoragonzalez23 not really, it just takes a lot more support. You actually probably use less air than flute, but it is just the pressure that really wears you out😆
Annajane Burcham I was thinking the same thing! Never played it nor do I think I ever will, but Man! That would be so technically difficult!! I was having anxiety just thinking about going over the break that fast!!
I am a clarinetist and let me tell you that was recorded when the player was like 13 and that piece has at least 3 octaves. It takes like 5 years just to play all of the notes then to be able to cross the break like that.... DAMN
Hey! I’m a flute player that’s playing Syrinx for an upcoming audition, and I’d like to share a little more information about the piece Syrinx is not a piece that is extremely difficult, the person you watched perform was Emanuel Pahud, who is arguably the best flute player in the world. He takes Syrinx and injects it with steroids to make it sound like that. The piece itself really slow and lyrical, and Debussy intended for flute players to take the tempo and stretch it like taffy, to make some of the runs faster and slower. Most serious flute players have played this piece because of how lyrical it is, and how popular it is with audiences. It’s really a benchmark of your ability to take a piece of music and mold it into your style and preferences.
Yeah. I've played it on both flute and oboe. If you have good vibrato and time feel, you can make it sound good Not Emanuel Pahud levels of good, but still good
Maybe,,, Salzedo? A lot of his stuff isn’t that hard if you practice, but the tempos he writes are ridiculously fast, playing them the way he writes it is on a whole other level
If you're going to do another video like this, you should check out "En Forêt" by Bozza for the French horn. The partials on French horn are insanely small compared to say trombone, making note accuracy and intonation notorious to keep in line, and this piece has a lot of difficult mordents. The piece also features stopped horn, which is even more difficult to keep in tune.
Okay so as a trombonist, I gotta say the beginning of that bluebells of scotland video is like the easier part. Once you're at variation 2 or 3 it gets crazy. Another piece that does things that are not really asked for ever in trombone repertoire is Basta by Folke Rabe, a piece which does some of that Baadsvik stuff at around 2 minutes. ua-cam.com/video/BAp--3wUC-0/v-deo.html
hikarinosakura yes? the parts they listened to was only the introduction so the main melody wasnt even introduced yet. the variations following get extremely technical
@Darchendon exactly what I thought too: we could hear 2 lines at the same time! I'm not a wind instrument player, but I guess it's based on the same physical trick; lower harmonics?
Ok the thing about Bottesini and bass is that while he is the "Paganini" of bass, his second concerto(which you guys watched in this vid) is pretty standard now, and pretty much every bass player will/has to play it eventually. Bottesini's first concerto, his Carnival of Venice thing, or his variations on Nel Cor Piu Non Mi Sento variations are much more "Paganini-like". So you guys got the right composer just the wrong music.
Dragonetti was far more similar in style to Paganini anywho - his Concerto in A maj has a very "melody - fast bit - extended techniques" structure akin to the others. Not to mention his legacy influencing Beethoven to write rather tricky bass parts in his later symphonic parts.
Bro, I looked at the music for the blue bells of scotland, and as a trombonist, I almost passed out at how high and low you have to go to play this, plus the speed and how smoothly he played it...*chefs kiss*
It makes me so sad, only classical music by "one of the big guys" was one piece by Debussy. o n e . Paganini of sax I would say is the Fuzzy Bird sonata, even if it is super modern, that stuffs insane ua-cam.com/video/Ctg3lgFv0lQ/v-deo.html
As a double bass player, the tone and shifts were amazing, but I was surprised it wasn't a harder piece. What he played wasn't super hard, it was just super well done.
You don't hear trombones sounding like that bc most orchestra music either doesn't emphasize them as much as a soloist or they play for such a small amount of time that the piece just doesn't require them to do so
yeah, orchestra really does a disservice to wind (especially brass) and percussion instruments. we get maybe two measures of solo or play an ostinato in the background, so obv string players don't get to see what some people are capable of when they're in a wind/brass/perc ensemble.
Exactly. There aren't a lot of orchestral pieces that show off brass (excluding trumpets) as anything but power instruments. Granted, I love when I get to come in on epic moments in the arrangements like in Tannhauser or Romantische. I would say some others that show off technical trombone skill would be Rimsky-Korsakov and Mussorgsky.
I agree on that. Generally speaking, trombones are mostly used for giving chord information and they would almost never have the melody or other important figures. That might be a reason why some trombonists tend to struggle with melody playing or soloing. It is never askd of you. You have to develop that skill outside of your daily ensemble playing. But once you get the hang of it you will be a man in demand because there are not a lot trombonists out there who can do that. Speaking of virtuosity on the trombone legato playing and fast playing are the most difficult skills to master on the trombone because the perfect use of the slide makes it very technical and you will hear the smallest mistake in your tone.
For harp, it's absolutely Anneleen Lenaerts. Watching her perform and getting masterclasses from her is amazing. She's one of those who are the best musicians but also great teachers
@@melissaf88 I stuck with French horn through high school; it was hard but fun. Until we started playing pieces by Robert W Smith. I'm pretty sure French horn is his last favorite instrument. One that I remember very vividly is "Into the Storm" - a grade 3. For all the other instruments, at least. For the French horns: -30 straight measures of just playing F -A page turn in the middle of a phrase..... Twice -Literally the entire piece is repetition -Not even a single measure of melody It was so frustrating.
Isaac Dupras i played into the storm in high school (second horn) and the whole first page was one note! The worst! I’d have to say the best horn part I’ve played is el Camino real by Alfred reed, such great parts
I have caprice no.24 as my ringtone, so at the beginning of the video, I frantically looked around for my phone...I was watching the video...on my phone
Trombone, Blue Bells of Schottland: It has a "theme and variations"-structure. So you need to check out the end of the piece, it's much more impressive than what was shown in this video!
@@matthiassanchez3211 Thank you for this comment! I didn't know, that this piece is also played by other instruments than the trombone. I just learned a lot about how to cover the typical trombonistical flaws, by just copying, what other instrumentalists do with this piece:)
As a trombonist... that's such a big flex For non brass players, specifically trombone, you trill with your lips. The fact it was so effortless and his tone stayed damn perfect is crazy
Guys, the flute players trolled you! Syrinx isn’t that hard. A lot of high schoolers play it... and well. The real Paganini of flute is “Jolivet - Chant de Linos.” I hope you guys correct this and make another flute one. :)
While I agree it's not technically difficult, the adequate tone is the real deal here. If you want something like Paganini, just try Waxman'# Carmen Fantasy adapted for flute. The genius here is Dennis Bouriakov
The hard thing about Syrinx is the phrasing. Hard pieces for us flutists Boehm Grand Polonaise, I agree with you about Jolivet Chant de Linos, Borne Carmen Fantasy, Briccialdi Carnival of Venice, Morlacchi Swiss Shepherd, Doppler Hungarian Pastoral Fantasy Karg-Elert Caprices and Andersen Op. 15 Etudes
As a clarinettist, this piece is one of the most difficult I've ever heard. I've been a clarinettist for 10 years I don't come close to being able to play this
it's not too bad. i mean i can't speak as i major for music performance in clarinet and at the time i played this piece i played for 9 years at the point
I first played it in a professional concert when I had played clarinet for 10 years. It is a relatively challenging piece, but is not impossible with slow and effective practice over an appropriate period
I'm a flautist and I have to say, that was not one of the most difficult flute pieces I've ever heard before but will say, his technique was pretty good regardless.
People usually think Liszt is one who composed the most hardest pieces for piano but there were alot of composers who composed pieces that are nearly impossible to play. The reason why we dont really know them is because they considered only technique but no musicality so they are kinda unfamous or not famous enough. For example,(well this one is quite famous tho) Charles-Valentin Alkan is one of composers that caught both of musicality and technique. His concerto for solo piano which is a 50mins long concerto for only one piano is insanely hard and fast but it still sounds good. Just leave a comment here so people can look out for music more hehehe... (and Alkan is one of my favorites too... sry)
Duuude, I think it has been like 5 years since I last heard that name... Thanks! Now off to listen some of his pieces. (Edit, not 15 years but 5, since I introduced his music to my bf.)
Liszt too has composed nearly impossible (some are physically impossible) pieces. Études d'execution transcendente d'apres paganini no 4b, 6 and 3, is clochette, etc. If I had to go hardest though, it'll be the opus clavicembalisticum by sorabji. It doesn't sound very good though.
I personally think that Alkan's harder piece is "Le Preux". I, to this day, have not been able to find a right-tempo interpretation anywhere. The jumps and the speed demanded are simply inhuman, but apparently Alkan himself could play it.
Agree, it's like complexity for the sake of complexity. And I think Alkan, mentioned above, is a great example of both melodically pleasant pieces and virtuosity.
For non-woodwind or brass players who have heard smatterings of techniques, just remember! Those instrument players who can circular breathe are also having to remember tonguing, trill, vibrato, etc.
I’ve played double bass for 9 years and I can tell you that double bass piece is really really hard. It’s hard to press the thick strings down that far down the bridge to get a decent sound. It requires skill and finger strength like you wouldn’t believe. Not to mention your back will hurt after bending over the side of the bass lol.
To me it's actually more impressive than Pag because it has catchy and beautiful melody and not just a pile of 15 notes a second arps (sorry Pag fans :-D)
@@federicoandre5717 I love his Carnival of the Animals; it's really awesome work! I can't believe he was so embarrassed that he didn't want to publish it. The Elephant strikes me as rather humorous and I really like it--can you play it?
@@andrewfortmusic Oh, hell yeah! Haven't played it in a while, but I love it. I started learning it when I was fist started learning bass, after I found out it was used for the tie-breaker (sight reading) in the final for an orchestra audition. The best part is, Saint-Saëns is making fun of Berlioz and Mendelssohn by taking their high-pitched, super light melodies, and giving them to the bass
@@federicoandre5717 He makes them sound clumsy by giving them to the bass! Saint-Saens is one of my favorites to listen to, but it annoys me that he was such a harsh critic of my favorite composers
The Tubist actually came to my middle school and played for all the musican students. (Our music director was also the director for a local community band that the Tubist was guest soloist for at the time.) We got to come out of class and everything. He explained how he learned to sing while playing his tube and urged us to keep playing our instruments. After he finished there were so many students who came up and asked him to sign their music folders, and our music director told us afterwards that he (Baadsvik) was not used to being treated like a celebrity.
@moscowguitarman not OP, but Isaac Albeniz has written some difficult af shit for guitar; see "Asturias". Francisco Tárrega is also a pretty good contender, especially with Recuerdos de la Alhambra.
@@currypuddin6902 Recuerdos de la Algambra while is Tarrega's most popular piece, its not extremely difficult once you master tremolo....I think Barriors La Caterdal to be the most difficult piece for classical guitar....Also i think Segovia wrote some difficult pieces
Paganini of the triangle:
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the triangle isn't even a right triangle
just saying
I know that much bruh 😑
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And that’s big brain
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“Hey he’s still alive!!” - Rarest words in the classical world.
Cranque Official that and “Oh, that seems playable!”
Cranque Official WUT
iGrupsy Then cry after first bar
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I've met Allen Vizutti as a fellow trumpeter. great guy.
Non wind instruments will never understand the pain of extending a two second breath into around 40 seconds of breath
Exactly. You know your in trouble when you don't see rests or breath marks in a piece for 30 measures
Whenever I see little to no rests: Aw, I'm gonna miss being able to breathe.
not only that but being allowed a quarter second breath for 20-25 seconds is straight pain if you do it wrong
Have you met vocalists? Cause I'm pretty sure that's what most tenor and sopranos have to go through. As a baritone I had to go through that😅. I got used to it eventually
Blynq that reminds me of when one time I had the hiccups during a live performance at Houston and at the time I was playing bass clarinet and I was the only bass and the piece had like a 2 line solo after a 30 second repeat of whole notes and a quarter rest, so when I got to the rest I couldn’t take a breath because I freaking hiccuped so I literally turned nearly purple because I pushed out all of my air to play all of it... and that’s the time I nearly died 🙃
On flute, once you get to a higher level of skill it really does become the slow stuff that becomes the hardest. Regardless of whether or not fast and complex scales and patterns are easy, the fact is most composers give all of that to primarily the flutes. Flutes are the "shimmer on top," which basically equates to tons of very fast scales and patterns played usually as at least 16th notes or faster. So fast stuff becomes not all that hard unless it's also hard for another reason. Because your air doesn't go directly into the instrument the way it does on most wind instruments, it takes a ton of air and breath control to play long, drawn out passages and long notes, especially with so much volume and so much of a change in dynamics.
Don't get me wrong, it doesn't mean that all that fast stuff is easy. It's just been beaten into us so much by every composer and ensemble ever that it becomes less difficult than a number of other things very quickly.
^ This. Give me a run requiring double tonging over anything with super long drawn out phrases. What people don’t realize about flute it that you are basically playing a highly engineered soda bottle. Trying to maintain constant pitch and tone quality over very long phrases is actually in many ways much harder than the stuff that sounds virtuosic to non-flautists.
As an example, if I need something easy that I can play well without practice or warmup off the top of my head not having played it for years, I’ll probably do a variation on Carnival of Venice that involves tossing in a bunch of fast (but easy) octave jumps or if I’m feeling a bit more ambitious, arpeggios. Impresses all the non-flautists.
If I need to convince someone who actually plays flute that I really do play proficiently I’ll probably first play some quick scales, to get the flute warm enough that it doesn’t sound like crap (they’ll wait ‘cause they get it) and then do Dance of the Blessed Spirits.
There’s lots of harder stuff out there than either of those pieces for sure, but the point is that even among the “back pocket repertoire” the easier sounding piece is actually sometimes harder to do well because flute is weird like that.
Personally, I disagree with this. I've got great lungs so breathing and keeping tones aren't very difficult for me. But I had to quit playing after 7 years because my hands got exponentially worse and worse with each year. In the end, it was nearly impossible to play 32nd notes at 240 bpm, but I tried my best to play them anyways. I really shined with the drawn out phrases, and I was the only one who carried those parts. It made me feel like I was still useful to our concerts.
I greatly miss being able to play music. I didn't realize how passionate I was until one day I realized I would have to sell my flute, since I can't play it anymore. Even holding it hurts my wrists. Seeing prodigies being able to play fast notes makes me really happy, because they reached something I was forced not to do.
I will always appreciate the "shimmer on top". I'd give anything to be able to be that again.
TRUE! im only and intermediate flute player but i used to play game with some mates where they would have to guess which songs are in a higher grade. They would all pick the fast paced songs because they sound more 'complicated'. for me long notes feel harder to maintain in terms of sound quality and slower songs feel more intentional and sound terrible if i mess up xD in a couple of years im sure this perspective may change tho.
The warmth in the tone is hard to achieve without making your breath“too wet”
Long phrases in the middle c octave are hard…..
Bro, I am a flute player and was given a clarinet book and was told to “just convert the notes”
Who is your band director 🤨
OH MY GOD fellow flautist here who hates transposition. I was given oboe parts and I always had to play them an octave up and even THAT was awful.
HOW DID YOU LIVE?!?
I'm a clarinet player and I was actually given a flute book once. Usually it's trumpet though.
As a clarinetist, in my high school chamber orchestra I constantly was reading off oboe and viola parts, and even occasionally bassoon (sometimes off sax when helping out the band too), so I can sight read off any of those. Transposition is tough at first but really useful to get good at
Going back and forth between parts too. Honestly it was a fun time
2020: worst year so far Eddy with the glasses: there is still hope-
Rishima•_• 2020 isn’t even that bad. People need some perspective.
none of your business let’s see... YT rewind, the virus, Kobe Bryant’s death, and all the other crap. You seriously think it’s a good start to the year,
none of your business Right? When people say that, it just shows how easy they have it.
He forgot Steelpan btw I play Steelpan 🎶🎶❤️❤️❤️💙💙🎶
Totally!!!!
I've been a trombonist most of my life, and yeah, that tone is godly. Even hitting the correct notes in that piece is impossible for mortals, so to sound so clean on top of it is just incredible.
“For mortals” 💀💀💀
@@idris8190 lmfao ☠️☠️☠️
I've played trombone for a bit and hitting those octave jumps looks crazy.
I wish they watched that vid to the end cuz like at the last 2 mins he transcends the mortal plane
look up "fly or die bass trombone" that will absolutely blow your mind
As a trumpet player I'm disappointed that they never made it to the part where Vizzutti rotates his trumpet during the last variation. The part hands down crushes everything else
I wish they would’ve looked up Carnival of Venus and listened to that.
@@aclator Performed by Sergei? Man that was sensational
I’m disappointed that they didn’t use Arturo Sandoval instead
@@aclator Yep, that's the one they should've done.
Sergei Nakariakov has entered the chat.
That trombonist’s tone was so good he made a TROMBONE sound like a FRENCH HORN WTF-
It sounds like a trombone and trumpet mixed... Oh wait...
@@skrillzfn4183 EXACTLY
@@charbird20 my joke is that that's sort of what french horns sound like.
Yeah, that's Ian Bousfield, one of THE best trombonists in the world.
When I was in yr 9 at school I played trombone for the school band and I was the only trombone player in the band, we were a small band, so I had so much pressure and we had to play a hard piece and I was so nervous, but I totally nailed it according to my band mates and my teacher and I breathed a huge sigh of relief😅. But that guy was a BOSS though!!!😅😯
Remember that an oboist also has a reed in their mouth that they're trying so desperately not to break. First time i tried circular breathing i both broke my reed and threw up. Bad day all round 😂
Also they need to get rid of the CO2 buildup so it's not just breathing in, but breathing out that's an issue as well. You just can't expel enough air through that tiny reed.
@@MissCaraMint yep! Thankfully my oboe teacher didn't feel it was necessary for me to learn after that 😂 to be fair I've never needed to use it yet in my career!
Bbb from a clarinet
Bitch how
This is such a mood😂🤣🤣
I love reading all of these comments about how Brett and Eddy don't appreciate how hard the brass/wind stuff is but, in their defence, the best musicians are the ones that make the hard stuff look easy and all of these musicians are PHENOMENAL
that's absolutely true
As an aspiring but still amateur recorder player, I couldn't agree more.
Twoset: "the paganini of every other instrument."
Non orchestral instruments: am I a joke to you?
Still proud to be my own personal one-man-orchestra on a pipe organ. ;)
WoodyofmC probably Widor when it comes to Pipe Organs? I‘m a pianist but I love the toccata from his 5th symphony soo much
@@jonash3251 Well, who doesn't? At least I don't know anyone who dislikes Widor's 5th...
Looking for a challenge? --- Try it on the piano, and I guarantee that it's quite rewarding once you master it. These 16ths are pretty hard to play on weighed keys...
sax tho D;
@@AleksPlaysMc Oooooooh yeah. That'd be groovy!
Me, a young tuba player: *watches the guy play*
Is he...is he dying?
Aye, M8, you should check out more of Baadsvik's stuff. Most notably, when he played Vivaldi's Winter. It's bloody insane!
Just listen to Czardas tuba solo
1:16 I've actually met him in middle school, as my middle school band director was friends with him. He did play the trumpet upside down, it was pretty cool. We also asked him to play the loudest sound he could play on the trumpet, and I remember him turning around, facing the whiteboard with his back to the band, and blasting out an ear rape note. He did this because according to our band director, "if he was facing the band your eardrum would have been ripped".
Geez, it would be cool to hear that with protective equipment in a concert hall
I cried because he’s so good and I’m so bad, I can barely play the first four measures of the nfl theme and I’ve been playing 3 years
Woah that's so cool!
In the video they used here he plays upside-down on the final variation. He actually rotates it while playing.
nice story, I appreciate it
Trumpet: 01:33
Tuba: 03:11
Trombone: 04:30
Oboe: 06:06
Clarinet: 07:37
Cello: 08:42
Flute: 09:13
Double Bass: 10:11
Double Bass >>>>
Thank you so much!!!!
Best comment
flute is 9:23
I just realized no viola. !!!
"The Paganinis of every instrument"
*No viola*
Nice dis.
That's the samething I thought. Or maybe they are just trying to say if you can play one you can play the other idk.
@@nunyabusiness8498 nah they're definitely dabbing on violas
Jake the Dog
No classical saxophone. 🤨
The Paganini of Viola -- Suziki book #1.
They can’t fully appreciate how hard the brass stuff was lol
True
@ThatGreenDayFreak Trumpet player sending you hugs!
Trombones 😥
Another trumpet player sending love lol ❤
I read that as bass instead of brass lol. Yes brass is very hard, u need huge lungs, just like how u need huge PP to play 🅱️ASS
The vibrato on the trumpet is not a placebo, actually. By moving his hand like that it actually very slightly changes the pressure of the instrument against his lips changing the pitch. Some trumpets like to do mouth or diaphragm vibrato, but that is another way too.
Michael Moon that’s really interesting, I had just assumed that it was actually an instinctive/placebo type thing. I’m a piano player, and I know a fair few of my ilk who sometimes try to get a vibrato by wiggling the key side to side.
I think this too when they said it 😄
Not only that but the different methods of vibrato produce different tones I feel. There are some pieces where vibrato using your fingers wouldn’t be appropriate and same with mouth. Using fingers can be more subtle too.
That's pretty interesting, as a beginner trumpeter I kind of always assumed it was the only way to produce vibrato. :')
I play the same kind of vibrato on my oboe
I play the harmonica (both diatonic and chromatic) and I have to say the Paganini of our world is Howard Levy. The guy invented overblows and overdraws, which unlocked all the potential of the instrument. Imagine half the violins notes were locked out and one guy came along and figured out how to use all of them in the span of a few years, that’s what Howard Levy did.
3 years too late but nice to see someone knows Howard Levy 😊. (in this particular comment section 😊)
Let’s ge an F for the French horn
C for the basson, euphonium/baritone, timpani, bells, marimba, ect., an Eb for the alto and bari sax, a Bb for the tenor sax, bass clarinet, and finally, whatever percussion plays in for percussion.
Also for the other instruments.
Yeah I thought there would be horn or I'd see Euphonium but alas this is not two set brass
F because I am a French horn
C 😔👋
What about flute
Valeria Cardenas I didn’t even notice they didn’t do Flute
"the Paganini of every other instruments"
*sad viola noises*
*sad basson noises*
*sad french horn noises*
*sad triangle noises*
R.I.P. second violins
Recorder?
Sax?
Euphonium?
Guitar?
Sad singer noises
@Emilia P i know, that i didn't mention every missing instrument, but this were the ones, that i immediately thought were missing (for a full orchestra), and also it would've destroyed the joke
Sad harp noises :(
Imagine Paganini using triangle.
That would be so cool.
Brett: Can you circular breathe?
Eddy: No. Can you?
Brett: No
Me, a flute player who also cannot circular breathe: Ha, string players
I did the same thing 😂
i can circular breathe but i can't apply it with the embouchure bc stupid braces >:(
Griffin Spears it’s harder wit braces I wish I could tell you the way I did it but I don’t even remember how I managed it
same instrument, same problem here
Flute gang ploblems
As a bassist, that last one literally TERRIFIES me. The shifting alone and playing that high is a pain, but that good of intunation at the same time is pure godliness.
I wonder if there's a Paganini equivalent for the triangle.
ua-cam.com/video/k3jXO1gbhY8/v-deo.html
That's about the closest you're gonna get :'D
Famous piece "square"
I bet that conductor would want to hear it
Iris Генри di gi di dum
the Bermuda triangle.
Circular breathing: this is what a flutist's nightmares are made of.
And for oboists... it's our dreams.
I'm oboist and recently learned
Did you know that 70% of our breath does not go through the embouchere?
@@aleksandrafurczon6717 it's sad, ik...
Yeah, but the song they put on here isn't that hard. I was shocked when I saw that Syrinx was the song for flute.
At this point in the Twoset community “Paganini” is synonymous with “classical rockstar”
That's been true since Paganini's day
Alex von Seggern Quite right I must say.
I actually saw Øystein Baadsvik (the tuba player) in concert once - he was a guest soloist at a small, local concert. I think the piece you watched in this clip showcases a few cool and unique techniques, but not so much his real skill and musicality.
When I saw him, he told a story of how the producers of the TV show House M.D. once came across a clip of him playing a solo, and were so inspired by it that they based part of an episode on it!
At the beginning I thought I was in a James wan movie. Then I was listening to a saudukar chant. Then I didn't know where I was. It was amazing.
He's still alive? :0
@@someannoyingcellist Øystein Baadsvik? I mean, he was when I saw him! It's probably like 5-8 years ago now, but still.
I’m the Paganini of not practicing.
Shy Why Guy isn’t everyone rn?
dump not ling ling
I know someone who is the Paganini of sleeping. They can sleep with their eyes open.
I don't practice 40 hours every day!
personally, as a clarinetist, the closest analogy to paganini was hermstedd. He had 4 concertos written for him by spohr, at a time when the clarinet was newly invented. Normally, pieces are written for the instrument with the instrument's limitations in mind. However, spohr did not do this. Consequently, hermstedt had to invent techniques to be able to play the concertos. Hermstedt was also famous for his virtuosity, which you noted that the stravinsky pieces, while technical, lack.
If I were to pick the clarinet piece to be in this video I'd throw the Nielsen concerto
Agreed... the spohr concertos are just painful to play TuT (and yet so beautiful)
Wow you have alot to say! Thanks
What are you talking about. Squidward is obviously the best clarinet player
This is so true!
“We all know Piatti”
Me, someone who doesn’t know Piatti: help
Dang it i just commented that b4 seeing this i guess above average minds think alike
He wrote 12 caprices that challenge every cello student. The example they used is maybe the easiest one. Piatti also wrote concert works that are so technically demanding they are almost never played or recorded.
Don’t forget Popper!
azcello they should have shown the third one it is one of the hardest
as someone that plays the cello, i feel like i should be ashamed of myself for not knowing how dis piatti person is... 0-0
as a clarinetist them being able to cross the break that well is extremely impressive
Pianist: *exists*
Liszt and Rach: *Imma end this mans whole career*
*alkan*
I forgot about alkan
Technically yes. But from sheer difficulty (musically and technically) you need to give scriabin at the crown
Why everyone forgets prokofiev
The cadenza in the First movement is Just insane and much more difficult than many Liszt or Rachmaninow pieces
In the Second concerto#
We all know that the true clarinet Paganini is Squidward
no, kelpy g
true
@@nicholasbagley3707 I hate 😤 Kelpy G with all the power ⚡of my soul 👻 He was such a POS 💩 in that episode‼️lame😒ass🍑hippy ass🍑 douchebag 😩🤮 he's not even a real musician 🎶 he plays jazz 🎺🎷
@Joel Banning idk if you whooshed I'm being whooshed, but it was a joke
The technical side for the clarinet piece is solely based on the fact that there are so many octave breaks, in my opinion. It’s incredibly hard to keep your sound clear and consistent when you are going through them, especially from treble clef mid-staff A to mid-staff C. That transition is known to be a hard break to clear because you go from essentially 0 fingers on the clarinet to ALL fingers on AND you’re going up in pitch, not down. Your air suddenly has a much longer way to travel to make the appropriate sound, so it often breaks and squeaks, especially at the speed that he was playing. It’s a lot easier to clear the break when traveling down the scale than up it.
Put this on top
So true !!
They were saying the piece wasn’t as musically impressive as others. They assumed the technical side was up there but concluded it wasn’t “Paganini enough”.
Hello my fellow clarinetist. I'm glad you feel my pain, brother.
Dylan Reed I know, I was just explaining the technical side of the piece. I agree that the piece isn’t very musically.... verbose? as the others.
You should look at more from Bottesini with the Double Bass. I feel like the little clip they saw didn't do justice to how crazy hard it can be.
*finale of the 1st movement *
The difficulty in the clarinet piece is the range of octaves covered in just a few bars. Everyone knows of the clarinet squeaks in all the starter bands and intermediate bands and usually it is caused by jumping between octaves, even by one, let alone 3 or 4 😂 It takes years to train your embouchure and breath control to reduce or eliminate these squeaks so literally any piece like the one that boy played is mind blowing to a clarinetist 🙌
I was impressed and I never tried the clarinet, but I know the theory. Especially given his age, that kind of performance is legendary.
For his age, that is really good playing. However, the piece itself is not close to the most challenging repertoire for the clarinet. Then you have to look at the Jean Francaix concerto, the Carl Nielsen concerto or something of that caliber
Can't understand why they didn't chose Jean Françaix, Nielsen or something like this
Nah squeaks and large jumps are not really an issue to anyone but beginners. Stravinsky is really not even close to being the Paganini of clarinet. There are plenty of extreme pieces, this isn't one of them
Lol I die every time I have to go from smth like A to C. No matter how many times I do it it's always stressful. XD
Twoset on clarinet: it doesn’t sound that HaRd
Me, a clarinetist: They don’t know the half of it
Barbara there’s definitely a disconnect between the wind instruments and strings players.
The whole concept of breath control and embouchure never really “click” until you have to do it.
Well I kinda am with you but i have to disagree with you because i also play clarinet and i cannot say that in any aspect the clarinet is harder than the violin main reason is because in the violin there is just so much to worry about at the same time and so many different techniques that you really need to dedicate yourself to learn violin well (not criticising anything i am just giving my opinion)
@@mattsnyder4754 i cried in my trumpet practice sessions for the first year. After that i played for four more years and head 1 solo Concert. but seeing other artists at that age (i was 14) be as insane as Professionals made me resign. Since the true Instrument Control seemed impossible to me
If you still think Stravinsky's 3 pieces are hard
--> get out of UA-cam, you seriously need to practice!
Clarinet gets harder. Its the easiest to learn when beginning but it gets harder the more advanced you become
me: I'M EARLY TO TWOSET'S NEW VIDEO!
also me: *stares nervously at my assignment due in an hour*
if there's more than fifteen minutes before you have to hand in your assignment, then it can wait
This is me-
Huh? There's a quarantine!
@@OganySupreme yes… and we have… guess what… online school and online assignments! GAAHHH
@@minty-es8me I honestly wish I had the same, because where I live, we may not be able to graduate with this quarantine!
As a trumpeter, Allen Vizzuttis chillness is the most impressive thing for me - he plays insane stuff making it look like it's absolutely nothing? We also performed fnugg blue with my uni brass band and I was so impressed
Title: *The Paganini's of Every Instrument*
Me: *cries in bassoon and timpani*
Dja Aggron dude french horn, basson, and many other instruments most people forget about, you kinda just have to get used to never seeing your instrument
Or all the other instruments not featured
cries euphonium and saxphone(how did they forget about sax!)
Yeeeey morning I'm harpist
Guess I'll shut my mouth for the rest of my life when it comes to "all instruments" 😂😢
Listen to Gustavo Nunez for a bassoon player, that man is fricking amazing...
What they don’t understand is the difficulty of the jumps on wind instruments (especially brass)
Yes; I started the trumpet about six months ago. Large interval jumps are a piece of cake on the flute, and I've been frustrated that the trumpet doesn't make it as easy.
Though legato jumps on the flute aren't easy either :')
@@bente2203 I've gotten pretty good at that on flute. Trumpet, however, has been harder, but I'm still a beginner on that.
@@2NiceyAckerman a trick my old band director taught me, as he was a trombone player, is to sit for a little bit and just sit on open valves, low c g c e, and just practice for a while slightly tightening youf lips until you hit that next note. And then hold it for as long as you can. It will help with 2 things. 1 it will help with breath control and 2, it will help you build that muscle memory of how tight you embouchure should be. Another trick i learned is to sit with just your mouthpiece and just go up and down the scale. It should end up sounding like a really bad siren. Progressing further, you can eventually get to where you cut off your breath between notes. When doing that, try to work on the breath cutoff using the throat. Its more efficient and the tongue method will typically staccato your notes. But by far my biggest tip is just practice using just your mouthpiece. Typically i will warm up for a few minutes doing that as well.
@@FiendFyreNyx I have been doing harmonics (open valve notes, first valve notes, etc.) but not slowly like that.
As a saxophonist, I am officially dead inside
Nikita zimin lol
Every instrument but no pan flute I'm sad
@Keanan i agree with herbin, but I think Nikita or raaf hekkema lol
Aaa kakos lykos vohtheia
countdown or giant steps by john coltrane for the sheer intensity
Wind instruments are a whole different beast in terms of technicality than string instruments, simply because there are so many sounds you can produce with your breathing. For example, most if not all brass instruments can be played polyphonically with at least one octave. In addition, there are mechanical limitations to the construction of the instrument that aren't present in things without physical keys.
The "didgeridoo" sound you hear is called multiphonics. This happens when you play one note while singing the other note into the tuba. This is very difficult to do well since you have to pay attention to the intonation of two notes at the same time constantly.
And now imagine he would have mastered overtone singing as well. He could have played entire CHORDS!
We had a guy come into our band class that did this while beat boxing and it inspired me to briefly learn how to do this multi-tone thing with my voice where I can sing one note and then other notes on top of it but it’s really hard to hear tbh
I was wondering if he was actually singing into it, too! It sounded like overtone singing
I can do this on a trombone. Funny thing is, with doing it in certain ways you can actually play some whole chords bc of overtones
You mean like playing a slant or a country pull on a lap steel? ;-)
Trumpet: “The flute’s part isn’t /that/ hard, they just need to play longer phrases! What’s so hard about that, it’s just 6 bars!”
My director, a trumpet player: “flutes use just as much air as tubas, but get half the sound. Be kind to them, they struggle with things you can not understand.”
Really tho, I'm a flutist and we aim our airstream ACROSS the hole and and the air splits to create the sound, so air is lost and goes over the plate that we place our lips on. The rest of the air doesn't even go INTO the instrument itself
trumpets really do be thinkin they’re hot shit #flutegang #doublesgang #maketrumpetsstopcomplaining
@@fernpelt54 lmao
Oboes and their back pressure tho D:
I'm also a flute player and sustaining that note with that dynamic for 6 bars is very hard, and catstuffies tran is right half the air is lost everytime a flute player plays. I've attempted to play sphynx, and I definitely can say that there is a struggle with sustaining a long note like that. It's all about keeping the air flowing through the tone hole as best you can. I do wish that I could circular breath, but unfortunately flutes don't get the luxury.
Clarinettist in the video: *flexes in 3 octaves*
Me, a clarinettist: *flinches with pure anxiety and phantom pain in pinkies and thumb*
Twoset: That did seem all that hard.
Me: Am I a joke to you?
We all remember the time Brett tried to play clarinet. It didn't go well at all.
I definitely played it
I’ve been playing clarinet for 1 and a half years now and O W
Brett and Eddy should review the Fantasia from Luigi Bassi. This is pure anxiety, especially the end.
You should check out stuff like Carmen fantaisie on clarinet, its way harder than Stravinsky 😅
As someone who plays flute, listening to that Debussy performance made my lungs collapse a little.
The musician playing Stravinsky at 7:35 is called Han Kim. He’s a Korean prodigy clarinet player who I happened to go to school with. Needless to say my mediocre attempt at Für Elise on piano was slightly overshadowed at recitals...
One of the musicians I went to school with is really big in porn now and so sometimes his butthole appears on the screen when you pause a pornhub video. 😐
@@isidoreaerys8745
Is that him in your profile?
@@isidoreaerys8745 how do you know this?
I'm the piano version of Paganini?
Nice.
as a flutist who's performed syrinx: it is not technically diffifcult. it's all about interpretation.. dynamics, rubato, and vibrato. for more technically challenging stuff: go through anything by briccialdi - and not just carnival of venice. madness. absolute madness. he's more of a paganini: he's just flexin.
Isn't dynamics, rubato and vibrato technically difficult 😜 hahaha. You make it sound like interpretation isn't difficult thing.
As a flautist I agree with both of you. The notes aren’t tricky but shaping the piece takes a lot of time and care.
Yeah. For me I'd pick the Andersen etudes
Can you share a youtube link as an example?
Briccialdi and Karg Elert. Don't you think?
As an oboe player I have to say that playing the oboe 100% is a workout. I'm no where near as good as he was, because just changing doing a scale in one breath makes me feel like I've run a mile!
I also play oboe! And I totally agree with you 😭✋
man, me being an oboe player i can relate 😭😭
So oboes use more air??
@@isidoragonzalez23 not really, it just takes a lot more support. You actually probably use less air than flute, but it is just the pressure that really wears you out😆
man fr i can just feel my lips numbing after playing for a while and it sucks
twoset-"It doesn't sound that hard musically"
Clarinets- * Sweating bc thinking about having to play that peice*
Annajane Burcham I was thinking the same thing! Never played it nor do I think I ever will, but Man! That would be so technically difficult!! I was having anxiety just thinking about going over the break that fast!!
I am a clarinetist and let me tell you that was recorded when the player was like 13 and that piece has at least 3 octaves. It takes like 5 years just to play all of the notes then to be able to cross the break like that.... DAMN
ive played 2.5 years and can play every note on the instrument
@@Aa-ln9sk Thats awesome! It was a little exaggerated. It should say it takes 40 hrs a day to play it
Played for three years.....still can’t do glissando 🙂
@@Aa-ln9sk I can play every note too. What I cannot do is transition over the break and back so fluidly.
@@Aa-ln9sk up to a 3rd octave c?
“Can you circular breathe?”
“Nah”
“Can you?”
“No”
-I don’t know why but I’m dying at this-
Ha.
Bruh... they don’t need to know how cuz they r violinist
Savffyサビ I know 😁 but it’s funny to see them try 😂
Hey! I’m a flute player that’s playing Syrinx for an upcoming audition, and I’d like to share a little more information about the piece
Syrinx is not a piece that is extremely difficult, the person you watched perform was Emanuel Pahud, who is arguably the best flute player in the world. He takes Syrinx and injects it with steroids to make it sound like that. The piece itself really slow and lyrical, and Debussy intended for flute players to take the tempo and stretch it like taffy, to make some of the runs faster and slower. Most serious flute players have played this piece because of how lyrical it is, and how popular it is with audiences. It’s really a benchmark of your ability to take a piece of music and mold it into your style and preferences.
Yeah. I've played it on both flute and oboe. If you have good vibrato and time feel, you can make it sound good
Not Emanuel Pahud levels of good, but still good
“The Paganini of every instrument”
Harpists: (distant crying)
hm we should have said something...
I personally would have said Elias Parish-Alvars as he gets compared to Liszt so indirect correlation?
I'd say Marcel Grandjany, he has some pretty difficult pieces
*sigh*... the harpists are always left out 😂
Maybe,,, Salzedo? A lot of his stuff isn’t that hard if you practice, but the tempos he writes are ridiculously fast, playing them the way he writes it is on a whole other level
Ingrid Wong One of the many struggles of a harpist. We are left out because we are the best
If you're going to do another video like this, you should check out "En Forêt" by Bozza for the French horn. The partials on French horn are insanely small compared to say trombone, making note accuracy and intonation notorious to keep in line, and this piece has a lot of difficult mordents. The piece also features stopped horn, which is even more difficult to keep in tune.
French horn player here-can confirm
Okay so as a trombonist, I gotta say the beginning of that bluebells of scotland video is like the easier part. Once you're at variation 2 or 3 it gets crazy. Another piece that does things that are not really asked for ever in trombone repertoire is Basta by Folke Rabe, a piece which does some of that Baadsvik stuff at around 2 minutes. ua-cam.com/video/BAp--3wUC-0/v-deo.html
was that clip supposed to sound good or was it just more of a technical demonstration?
Fly or Die for trombone/bass trombone is also incredibly difficult, but really fun to listen to
hikarinosakura yes? the parts they listened to was only the introduction so the main melody wasnt even introduced yet. the variations following get extremely technical
@@ShianAnChiou Oh, I was talking about the video Evan linked, I thought it doesnt sound like much of a tune
Fly or die
It sounds like the tuba player was using dissonance stupidly well to create those chanting noises. Mindblowing
As a tuba play I know what he was doing, he was singing in the horn as well as playing. But he does it amazining!
Well the Tuba comment made me laugh out loud. "Summoning tuba demons" lol, also those Tuba sounds did blow my mind.
Doesn't help that there's an unaccompanied piece for tuba called 'Triumph of the Demon Gods' by John Stevens. XD
sounded like he was doing mongolian throat singing into it
Dude was beat boxing
@Darchendon exactly what I thought too: we could hear 2 lines at the same time! I'm not a wind instrument player, but I guess it's based on the same physical trick; lower harmonics?
As, a Tuba player it looked and sounded like he was just having fun with his instrument
Ok the thing about Bottesini and bass is that while he is the "Paganini" of bass, his second concerto(which you guys watched in this vid) is pretty standard now, and pretty much every bass player will/has to play it eventually. Bottesini's first concerto, his Carnival of Venice thing, or his variations on Nel Cor Piu Non Mi Sento variations are much more "Paganini-like". So you guys got the right composer just the wrong music.
Dragonetti was far more similar in style to Paganini anywho - his Concerto in A maj has a very "melody - fast bit - extended techniques" structure akin to the others.
Not to mention his legacy influencing Beethoven to write rather tricky bass parts in his later symphonic parts.
yep agreed !!! ive heard many of the older bass players at my recitals play this piece so i immediately recognized it !!!!
I confirm, for example here ua-cam.com/video/-m-FKHQqtQQ/v-deo.html
@@AleksaderBogucki holy fk...
I am playing dragonetti bass concerto for my softmore year.
me: oohhh twoset has a giveaway
also me: *realizes i don’t have a chance to win*
Bro, I looked at the music for the blue bells of scotland, and as a trombonist, I almost passed out at how high and low you have to go to play this, plus the speed and how smoothly he played it...*chefs kiss*
"The Paganini's of every instrument"
Me knowing that the saxophone is never featured on TwoSet
This is fine
I still love you guys
Also if anyone is interested listen to Like Wolves On the Fold - Colin Stetson
ua-cam.com/video/eGbsYT-qOqQ/v-deo.html
Same, but with recorder...
Same, but with guitar
Or Kuku for solo saxophone
Forgot the composer I wanna know more pieces for sax and composers
It makes me so sad, only classical music by "one of the big guys" was one piece by Debussy. o n e .
Paganini of sax I would say is the Fuzzy Bird sonata, even if it is super modern, that stuffs insane
ua-cam.com/video/Ctg3lgFv0lQ/v-deo.html
Next: the ling lings of every instrument
He forgot Steelpan I play Steelpan ❤️❤️❤️🎶💚
Heifetz is the lingling of of violin
Heifetz is for violin, Kissin for piano, and that DJ guy for conductor :)
@@akshaygowrishankar7440 Isserlis for cello!
warning: self esteem may be low like that shoulder rest on the floor
"The Paganini's of Every Instrument"
*Cries in French horn*
Cries in classical guitar
Cries in saxophone
B A G P I P E S
Lol same 😰
Fellow hornist
As a double bass player, the tone and shifts were amazing, but I was surprised it wasn't a harder piece. What he played wasn't super hard, it was just super well done.
Me, a saxophonist watching this video:
*Sad orchestral discrimination noises*
True
Why isn't Giant Steps in here
it be like that
*cries in careless whisper*
#saxlivesmatter
Every lactose intolerant person here:
IT'S NOT FUNNY OKAY
What??
@Anarghya Amarnath
4:12
With them being Asian, they are likely to lactose intolerant.
Every tuba player in here: WE GET IT OK
Don't be so intolerant of the lactose intolerant intolerant.
You don't hear trombones sounding like that bc most orchestra music either doesn't emphasize them as much as a soloist or they play for such a small amount of time that the piece just doesn't require them to do so
yeah, orchestra really does a disservice to wind (especially brass) and percussion instruments. we get maybe two measures of solo or play an ostinato in the background, so obv string players don't get to see what some people are capable of when they're in a wind/brass/perc ensemble.
Amen
Exactly. There aren't a lot of orchestral pieces that show off brass (excluding trumpets) as anything but power instruments. Granted, I love when I get to come in on epic moments in the arrangements like in Tannhauser or Romantische.
I would say some others that show off technical trombone skill would be Rimsky-Korsakov and Mussorgsky.
I agree on that. Generally speaking, trombones are mostly used for giving chord information and they would almost never have the melody or other important figures. That might be a reason why some trombonists tend to struggle with melody playing or soloing. It is never askd of you. You have to develop that skill outside of your daily ensemble playing. But once you get the hang of it you will be a man in demand because there are not a lot trombonists out there who can do that.
Speaking of virtuosity on the trombone legato playing and fast playing are the most difficult skills to master on the trombone because the perfect use of the slide makes it very technical and you will hear the smallest mistake in your tone.
For harp, it's absolutely Anneleen Lenaerts. Watching her perform and getting masterclasses from her is amazing. She's one of those who are the best musicians but also great teachers
"Fwoof fwoof fwoof" is not the sound I'd imagined flying elephants would make but Brett taught me differently.
French horns everywhere: we’re used to being forgotten
I was way better at French horn than clarinet but I switched in middle school because i wanted to play the melody!
My band teacher never forgave me.
@@melissaf88 I stuck with French horn through high school; it was hard but fun.
Until we started playing pieces by Robert W Smith.
I'm pretty sure French horn is his last favorite instrument. One that I remember very vividly is "Into the Storm" - a grade 3. For all the other instruments, at least. For the French horns:
-30 straight measures of just playing F
-A page turn in the middle of a phrase..... Twice
-Literally the entire piece is repetition
-Not even a single measure of melody
It was so frustrating.
Isaac Dupras i played into the storm in high school (second horn) and the whole first page was one note! The worst! I’d have to say the best horn part I’ve played is el Camino real by Alfred reed, such great parts
Its true, we are always forgotten
I play Baritone, but we are also forgotten. I feel your pain.
DID I JUST HEAR
A TRILL
FROM TREBLE CLEF E TO F
ON
THE
TROMBONE
ISKDJSKJCJEJS BOW TO THE GOD
I too was impressed by the trill on the trombone!
Probably a lip trill
julian g d I crapped my pants
(8 years experience playing T-bone)
I have caprice no.24 as my ringtone, so at the beginning of the video, I frantically looked around for my phone...I was watching the video...on my phone
Trombone, Blue Bells of Schottland: It has a "theme and variations"-structure. So you need to check out the end of the piece, it's much more impressive than what was shown in this video!
The Joe Alessi versions are sick. He has amazing articulation.
Yes the tuba version is also super cool with oystein baadsvik
@@matthiassanchez3211 Thank you for this comment! I didn't know, that this piece is also played by other instruments than the trombone. I just learned a lot about how to cover the typical trombonistical flaws, by just copying, what other instrumentalists do with this piece:)
Lucas Tiefenthaler oh no problem I’m just spreading tuba music XD
As a trombonist... that's such a big flex
For non brass players, specifically trombone, you trill with your lips. The fact it was so effortless and his tone stayed damn perfect is crazy
0:01 I somehow understand why Ray said : “This is like playing against a couple .A married couple” 😂😂🤣🤣
I think the fact i thought Paganini was an instrument goes to show my need for classical music education TvT
Guys, the flute players trolled you! Syrinx isn’t that hard. A lot of high schoolers play it... and well. The real Paganini of flute is “Jolivet - Chant de Linos.” I hope you guys correct this and make another flute one. :)
While I agree it's not technically difficult, the adequate tone is the real deal here.
If you want something like Paganini, just try Waxman'# Carmen Fantasy adapted for flute. The genius here is Dennis Bouriakov
Have y’all looked/tried to play Ian Clarke’s “hatching Aliens?” That piece is a beast to learn!
I just made a reply saying that Chant de Linos and the Lieberman Sonata are the Paganini of flute😂
The hard thing about Syrinx is the phrasing. Hard pieces for us flutists Boehm Grand Polonaise, I agree with you about Jolivet Chant de Linos, Borne Carmen Fantasy, Briccialdi Carnival of Venice, Morlacchi Swiss Shepherd, Doppler Hungarian Pastoral Fantasy Karg-Elert Caprices and Andersen Op. 15 Etudes
As a clarinettist, this piece is one of the most difficult I've ever heard. I've been a clarinettist for 10 years I don't come close to being able to play this
it's not too bad. i mean i can't speak as i major for music performance in clarinet and at the time i played this piece i played for 9 years at the point
I first played it in a professional concert when I had played clarinet for 10 years. It is a relatively challenging piece, but is not impossible with slow and effective practice over an appropriate period
We didn't even get to the difficult variation in Blue Bells of Scotland, that is the bone grinder!
Jack Porath yes!! I would’ve loved to see their faces when Ian just lets loose
Facts 😂
The Alessi version would’ve been awesome
Jack Porath just like for cello that is not even the hardest piatti caprice
I wish they used the Joe Alessi version too, Ian Bousfield is amazing but Alessi is the best
I made a paganini this morning for breakfast
Eddy: “So glad I can breathe while playing” Me, a chamber choir kid: ☹️
“The Paganini’s of Every Instrument” Cries in marimba
I was just about to go make a percussion comment 😂😭
Cymbals are crying
Mason McWest Keiko Abe? Ney Rosauro? Wonder what other composers or performers there are?
7:44 omg i know him. He was my music classmate back in School of the Arts Singapore for about 2 years.
Another one for cello would be piatigorskys variations on paganinis theme. Basically takes pagannini 24 variations and cranks it up a notch for cello.
I'm a flautist and I have to say, that was not one of the most difficult flute pieces I've ever heard before but will say, his technique was pretty good regardless.
How ‘bout Robert Muczynski’s Sonata for Flute and Piano, Op.14
Yes, a good choice grabbing a video of Emanuel Pahud :)
Same here, instead of Syrinx Ibert's Concerto or anything from Jolivet lol
@@rahelnadasi Jolivet 💀💀💀💀
He’s the principle flautist for the Berlin Phil. He’s better than “pretty good” 😂
Me: Slams random keys on the piano really fast
Friend: You can't play
Me: Nah, I'm just playing Jazz Paganini
NubFish I think you mean jazzinini
Jiszt?
Or Janini xD
People usually think Liszt is one who composed the most hardest pieces for piano but there were alot of composers who composed pieces that are nearly impossible to play. The reason why we dont really know them is because they considered only technique but no musicality so they are kinda unfamous or not famous enough. For example,(well this one is quite famous tho) Charles-Valentin Alkan is one of composers that caught both of musicality and technique. His concerto for solo piano which is a 50mins long concerto for only one piano is insanely hard and fast but it still sounds good. Just leave a comment here so people can look out for music more hehehe... (and Alkan is one of my favorites too... sry)
Duuude, I think it has been like 5 years since I last heard that name... Thanks! Now off to listen some of his pieces.
(Edit, not 15 years but 5, since I introduced his music to my bf.)
Apparently Sorabji made a 9 hour long piece for piano..
Liszt too has composed nearly impossible (some are physically impossible) pieces. Études d'execution transcendente d'apres paganini no 4b, 6 and 3, is clochette, etc.
If I had to go hardest though, it'll be the opus clavicembalisticum by sorabji. It doesn't sound very good though.
I personally think that Alkan's harder piece is "Le Preux". I, to this day, have not been able to find a right-tempo interpretation anywhere.
The jumps and the speed demanded are simply inhuman, but apparently Alkan himself could play it.
Agree, it's like complexity for the sake of complexity. And I think Alkan, mentioned above, is a great example of both melodically pleasant pieces and virtuosity.
For non-woodwind or brass players who have heard smatterings of techniques, just remember! Those instrument players who can circular breathe are also having to remember tonguing, trill, vibrato, etc.
I’ve played double bass for 9 years and I can tell you that double bass piece is really really hard. It’s hard to press the thick strings down that far down the bridge to get a decent sound. It requires skill and finger strength like you wouldn’t believe. Not to mention your back will hurt after bending over the side of the bass lol.
To me it's actually more impressive than Pag because it has catchy and beautiful melody and not just a pile of 15 notes a second arps (sorry Pag fans :-D)
ayy bass gang! I thought the exact same thing... thumb position is a whole other world lmao
Gloria Yaneui R-M bass gang bruh his thumb position is nonexistent tho 😂
Nobody:
Not even Erik Satie:
Brett: "DuMbO tHe eLePhAnT WOOF WOOF WOOF"
Well, check out Camille Saint-Saëns' The Elephant... (yes, I'm a bass player...)
@@federicoandre5717 I love his Carnival of the Animals; it's really awesome work! I can't believe he was so embarrassed that he didn't want to publish it.
The Elephant strikes me as rather humorous and I really like it--can you play it?
@@andrewfortmusic Oh, hell yeah! Haven't played it in a while, but I love it. I started learning it when I was fist started learning bass, after I found out it was used for the tie-breaker (sight reading) in the final for an orchestra audition. The best part is, Saint-Saëns is making fun of Berlioz and Mendelssohn by taking their high-pitched, super light melodies, and giving them to the bass
@@federicoandre5717 He makes them sound clumsy by giving them to the bass! Saint-Saens is one of my favorites to listen to, but it annoys me that he was such a harsh critic of my favorite composers
Everyone forgets about us lonely classical guitarists 😭
check out Xingye Li's "Rossiniana no.2" or Kazuhito Yamashita's "La boda de Luis Alonso"
There are some out of this world classical guitar pieces that i think are harder than Paganini!
Paganini was the Paganini of classical guitar :p
Brennan Colson everyone forgets about us lonely lutenists
@@JoelB_Reckons Yeah, he was a shredder
The Tubist actually came to my middle school and played for all the musican students. (Our music director was also the director for a local community band that the Tubist was guest soloist for at the time.) We got to come out of class and everything. He explained how he learned to sing while playing his tube and urged us to keep playing our instruments. After he finished there were so many students who came up and asked him to sign their music folders, and our music director told us afterwards that he (Baadsvik) was not used to being treated like a celebrity.
plays blue bells of scotland:
doesn't even show the interesting parts
And yet are still left mouth agape lol
Same with trumpet
True lol
Twoset: “I’ve never heard a trombonist play so fast!”
Me: “keep listening buckos.”
says not a single word about Pryor
“Every instrument”
Classical guitar: am i a joke to you?
@moscowguitarman not OP, but Isaac Albeniz has written some difficult af shit for guitar; see "Asturias". Francisco Tárrega is also a pretty good contender, especially with Recuerdos de la Alhambra.
Our Paganini in guitar is also Paganini.
@moscowguitarmanMarcin Patrzałek for example, he played Paganini Caprice No.24 when he was 15 years old
I would say Leo Brower's danza caracteristica, as it is very technical ;)
@@currypuddin6902 Recuerdos de la Algambra while is Tarrega's most popular piece, its not extremely difficult once you master tremolo....I think Barriors La Caterdal to be the most difficult piece for classical guitar....Also i think Segovia wrote some difficult pieces
Bro was YHRAT SINGING INTO A TUBA while playing
"Every Instrument"
Horns: Am I a joke to you?
Or just every other instrument which was not in the video
I was so disappointed :(
violas:
“he hasn’t breathed”
“Circular breathing”
😂