Cutting Edge: Car Trouble - Chris Fulke Greville (Channel 4, Oct 1997)

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  • Опубліковано 20 лют 2020
  • Nottingham-based Evans Arnold and Surrey dealer Car Direct fend off furious customers trying to get their money back on cars they have bought.
    The documentary alleges that a £3,000 Ford Sierra bought from Evans Arnold had been “cut and shut” after an accident, while a woman had pulls out of buying a Hyundai coupe from Car Direct at the last minute after learning it too had been rebuilt after a major accident.
    Car Direct owner Chris Fulke-Greville admitted on film that he had regularly clocked cars in the past but had not done so for six years.
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  • @91drunkenmonkey
    @91drunkenmonkey 8 місяців тому +24

    I googled Chris and he’s been to jail for fraud so many times still getting done for scams today

  • @dk2655
    @dk2655 3 роки тому +40

    I’m a vehicle Technician and and M.O.T Tester and have been for many years, I’ve inspected many cars for people over the years who have just bought them,some good and plenty of rubbish that unsuspecting buyers have bought and they need a fortune spending on them.
    My advise to anyone buying a car is get an independent inspection done before you buy, if the seller questions this in anyway shape or form then walk away as they are hiding something!!!.

  • @josefstout2194
    @josefstout2194 3 роки тому +47

    very surprised he even let them film him (Chris F G) - did he honestly think it was going to portray him in a good light?! madman!

    • @michaelhamilton6553
      @michaelhamilton6553 2 роки тому +30

      He's a typical narcissist. Genuinely thinks he's better than everyone else and nobody can touch him. Considering how terribly he treated the woman who wanted to take the car back whilst on camera, imagine what he would've been like if there wasn't a camera

    • @lewwylewis5523
      @lewwylewis5523 Рік тому +8

      @yossarian Google Chris F G, there's plenty more on the antics he has been up to

    • @jamiegibson9904
      @jamiegibson9904 10 місяців тому +1

      Google him very interesting

    • @adamwilliams4377
      @adamwilliams4377 4 місяці тому +1

      In 2012 Chris was jailed for clocking cars

    • @josefstout2194
      @josefstout2194 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@michaelhamilton6553yes... the sad irony of the narcissist !

  • @abc33944
    @abc33944 3 роки тому +17

    Rumour has it the car dealer is still saying yay or nay

  • @jimgrez5854
    @jimgrez5854 11 місяців тому +8

    amazes me how patient Some of these customers are 🤣

  • @jonathanw844
    @jonathanw844 3 роки тому +60

    Mrs Awcock’s green Renault 21 was last taxed on 29th October 1997, less than a month after this was screened !

    • @thedeadstig123
      @thedeadstig123 3 роки тому +13

      i bet it cooked itself then

    • @Landie_Man
      @Landie_Man 3 роки тому +9

      The Peugeot lasted till 1999!

    • @Landie_Man
      @Landie_Man 3 роки тому +3

      @@jonathanw844 they do yeah! They export for quite a bit of money, but there’s a few people who hold on to them now. I’ve no
      Idea what they sell for. I think £3,500 for a good one in 2021

    • @georgepeg6167
      @georgepeg6167 3 роки тому +4

      Hyundai last till 2007 that shocked me abit

    • @Eddie1992uk
      @Eddie1992uk 3 роки тому +1

      @@georgepeg6167 I couldn't trace it, assumed it got crushed

  • @alejandrogolt68
    @alejandrogolt68 3 роки тому +21

    That Renault 21 had probably been around the clock more times than Bill Hayley

    • @Landie_Man
      @Landie_Man 3 роки тому +2

      Best comment ever

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 Рік тому +2

      60000 miles apparently. About average mileage for a 1991 car in 1997. But signs of hard use was evident and nor was there any sign of servicing, which wore out the Renault prematurely.

  • @timmorodgers4271
    @timmorodgers4271 3 роки тому +7

    Thanks for uploading!

  • @guy4469
    @guy4469 3 роки тому +37

    my mate bought a bran new transit from ford ,in the 90s after 160,000 miles, 2 years it wanterd new bits. So he went to a hire company at weekend, Hired the same transit £ 59 quid . . took off all the wheels and alternator and battery anything he needed ,Then took the hire van back monday morning, the girl came out clip board signed it back in no damage , sir and got his deposit back job done. £1900 quids worth of bits .his van was mint .

  • @LeonTheMechanic
    @LeonTheMechanic 3 роки тому +10

    “One of the glasses is older than the car itself”
    Meanwhile, if my car hasn’t got oil under it, it hasn’t got oil in it

  • @151CHAVIN
    @151CHAVIN Рік тому +19

    Amazing to think what technology we have at our hands these days to do vehicle checks! I've had some major dodgy motors back in the day!

    • @BobBob-ok8su
      @BobBob-ok8su Рік тому +1

      Had a ringer went into the police that there was issues and could you check it out...they weren't interested sold it on then got arrested 😂

    • @DTM93
      @DTM93 Рік тому

      Like what? Only thing i know of is MOT history check.

  • @chrisblay
    @chrisblay Рік тому +9

    Very nostalgic watching this. I’ve got some stories I could tell about that time. Got stitched up with buying a car from a dealer that subsequently turned out to be stolen recovered. It had been sold at auction by the police, without them telling the insurance company. I was then hounded by said insurance company and had to investigate and prove what had actually happened.

    • @garishanth
      @garishanth Рік тому

      if only CarVertical was available back then 😅

    • @chrisblay
      @chrisblay Рік тому +2

      @@garishanth not sure it would have helped anyway, as the vehicle had not been correctly recorded as stolen/recovered before being sold at auction. The whole thing was a complete balls up, with the insurance company still thinking it was outstanding as stolen. Hence why they came after me, when I appeared as the new keeper.

  • @Flozman1982
    @Flozman1982 3 роки тому +18

    Swapping one of the most reliable Peugeot's ever made for one of the most unreliable crappy Renaults ever to grace the planet. Even the showrooms couldnt shift them back then as they already started rusting on the forecourt, we used to put newpaper in the dash to stop them rattling when customers complained.

    • @AA-69
      @AA-69 Рік тому +2

      Too True 😂..They don't drive pugs on North Africa for nothing !!... They still have 404 taxi's Never mind 504/5s...Bomb proof ...Silly woman 👠!

    • @JohnJohn-zn8ib
      @JohnJohn-zn8ib 25 днів тому +1

      Renault's were ok if serviced, you get people who never service their cars, they don't even know how to pump up the tyres.

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 19 днів тому

      @@JohnJohn-zn8ib That 21 GTX was alright, it just seems to have not been serviced on time, like it had run dry of oil at some point.

    • @JohnJohn-zn8ib
      @JohnJohn-zn8ib 19 днів тому

      @owensteele1645 yes.

  • @video99couk
    @video99couk Рік тому +12

    Not all dealers are like that. Back in 2007 we bought a cheap but tidy Rover 45 from a small dealership. Had a spot of bother initially which was fixed promptly under warranty. We ran the car for years with very little trouble, only sold it because the A/C quit and couldn't be repaired. We had such a bargain with that Rover, it outlasted the small dealership. The complicated Insignia we replaced it with costs more to maintain each year than the Rover did in 7 years.

    • @Landie_Man
      @Landie_Man Рік тому +3

      Insignia diesels are also known for blowing up too.

    • @davidyoung9561
      @davidyoung9561 Рік тому +3

      True. My parents bought a 1983 Volvo 340 5dr from a dealer in 1989 and that car soldiered on well until 2001 when it failed an MOT due to rust.

  • @deanstanley5799
    @deanstanley5799 3 роки тому +88

    Sierra owner looks like he could handle himself glad it wasn’t me who sold him a dodgy motor 😂

    • @6ettinold
      @6ettinold 3 роки тому +11

      Knowing which part of Nottingham he lived in ( I was born there ) I would guess the dealer quite rightly suffered a loss that dwarfed the money he made on that Sierra!😀

    • @bigalf5173
      @bigalf5173 3 роки тому +9

      He looks an handy lad .What chance does a little old lady have with shitester car dealers .

    • @matthewking5612
      @matthewking5612 2 роки тому

      Not sure, he took a lot of shit from the guy

    • @Acme-Logistics
      @Acme-Logistics Рік тому

      I thought that 🤣👍

    • @macdapimp83
      @macdapimp83 Рік тому +7

      Why swap that sapphire shed for a manta though?
      Hope for his sake it wasn't a gte

  • @dellawrence4323
    @dellawrence4323 3 роки тому +19

    Those poor people, £3000 was a lot of money in 1997.

    • @RSBritain
      @RSBritain 2 роки тому +1

      I think they said the car was £1700 to buy. The rest of the money spent on repairs/services etc. I suppose all cars were shite back then (most*)

    • @rampantram1
      @rampantram1 Рік тому

      @@RSBritain thats the payments he had made upto that point ie a years worth or so.

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 Рік тому

      @@rampantram1 They had the car for 11 months at the time this was shot.

    • @GTMarmot
      @GTMarmot Рік тому

      @@RSBritain The cars were good. The people were no good.

    • @leedstown
      @leedstown 11 місяців тому

      Not really a Sierra sapphire cosworth 4x4 new in 1991 was £18k

  • @steven-vn9ui
    @steven-vn9ui 3 роки тому +25

    The red Hyundai Coupe was quoted as approx 24k miles on the clock on the test drive, it was MOT'd the year before with almost twice that mileage

    • @georgepeg6167
      @georgepeg6167 3 роки тому +1

      It’s last till 2007 on dvla

    • @eccIefechan
      @eccIefechan 3 роки тому +1

      ​@Nichen Fauster They weren't bad looking cars (I quite like the glassy aero 90s jelly mould shape), but the general consensus was that they performed underwhelmingly in just about every way. And on the contrary to what this conman says, there was zero demand for them, they lost their value very quickly and were in fact difficult to sell on the used market because they had no name value.

    • @MrVsbt1
      @MrVsbt1 3 роки тому

      those s coupes are shit my mates ex girlfriend had a auto 89 one we just clocked 200 km/hr in it revving off it's head and it took forever to get there

    • @64bakes
      @64bakes Рік тому +5

      How did you get that mileage? The only MOT available on DVLA is from 2006. This was filmed in 1997.

    • @jackcarter66
      @jackcarter66 Рік тому +3

      What are you talking about?? The car was less than 3 years old when the film was made, and wouldn’t have had an MOT.

  • @josefstout2194
    @josefstout2194 4 місяці тому +2

    Quote of the day goes to Mrs Sierra owner
    'I've had my kids in that pissing car!' 😅

  • @DC-wp6oj
    @DC-wp6oj Рік тому +15

    Traders like Greville were common place. The public got robbed all the time by these scam artists. And the law? A joke back then and a joke now.

    • @insertnamehere5146
      @insertnamehere5146 Рік тому +2

      you can do due diligence now via the DVLA. Back in the 80s I nearly bought a cut and shut which was endemic at the time. Fortunately I paid the RAC for a pre purchase inspection who found the car was a lemon.

  • @gcfcos
    @gcfcos 3 роки тому +37

    Second hand car dealers, slimy buggers. Was amazed at the Vauxhall’s dealers treating that chap like that.

    • @dellawrence4323
      @dellawrence4323 3 роки тому +12

      I have been in the motor trade for 40 years as a mechanic, and I can honestly say that I have never met a car dealer who wasn't a crook, including at main dealerships.

    • @hamonryechinaski180
      @hamonryechinaski180 3 роки тому +5

      Im not. Took my pride and joy to official Ford dealers, they jacked it up in wrong place, cracked the heater radiator underneath (costing 30% of cars worth to get a working heater again) £1200+, it was Nova SR cost me 5k when I earned £450 a month. Denied it all. Didn't happen when they had it...it did obviously cos heating was working when i dropped it off, broken when I picked it up. Just shit on me, didn't even offer to meet me halfway. A shitshow. Sadly, since then, i realised official dealerships are arrogant AF. Even high end cars...took my E class Benz in for a new battery in fob, wouldn't show me how they opened it so they could charge me a fiver on top of the battery (3 extra unnecessary batteries) and keep me coming back. A fiver FFS! Very nice when ur buying a car though but I'll go private 95% of time!

    • @colonelsanders4006
      @colonelsanders4006 3 роки тому

      @@dellawrence4323 ha ha wise words. car dealers and estate agents, there's a special place in hell reserved for the lot of em.

    • @MrSupercar55
      @MrSupercar55 Рік тому

      I agree. I’ve owned two cars in my life. The first one was an old Corsa which I learned to drive in (my profile pic shows me sitting in it). The second one is a Mazda MX-5 which I purchased with money that I had earned by working part time when I was in college. Anyway, both of these cars were purchased from very reputable private sellers. I didn’t go to no shady dealership only to come back every 2 weeks or less complaining about all kinds of problems.

    • @Luke-yh6nm
      @Luke-yh6nm 2 дні тому

      "Daley Into Europe, Managing Director speaking............"😅

  • @brianfearn4246
    @brianfearn4246 3 роки тому +19

    If a brand new car has problems and faults from the start. They will probably never go away.

    • @davidyoung9561
      @davidyoung9561 Рік тому +3

      It is a Vauxhall so what do you expect.

    • @MrSupercar55
      @MrSupercar55 Рік тому +5

      Well, the red car at the start is a Sierra. Manufactured by Ford.
      Fix Or Repair Daily
      Found On Road Dead
      Forty-One Recycled Dodges
      (backwards) Driver Returns On Foot

    • @brianfearn4246
      @brianfearn4246 Рік тому

      @MrSupercar55 it's a bit like the ford focus great car but if they had any problems starting it could have been a connection fault behind the instrument cluster which is well known now on the mk2 it's usually cousd by a faulty soldier joint which understandably was overlooked in most cases .

    • @babbingtondavid
      @babbingtondavid Рік тому

      Ford= Found on rubbish dump!

    • @babbingtondavid
      @babbingtondavid Рік тому +1

      I own a 2005 ford focus zetec.
      Never had any major problems except have to replace the speedometer and rev counter display for £450.
      Just new tyres every few years.

  • @200degrees.
    @200degrees. 3 роки тому +11

    If he ever treated any member of my family in that manner the only wheels he would be in is a wheelchair...

  • @ukmud6218
    @ukmud6218 3 роки тому +14

    Pictures on the wall, then the Internet came along

    • @desertmandan123
      @desertmandan123 3 роки тому +2

      Then he started scamming old people out of their savings....for building work he never carried out..total scumbag

    • @andicog
      @andicog 3 роки тому +6

      Buying cars in the 90's waiting for the Auto trader on a Thursday morning, then Loot or Quids in!

  • @njohnson6589
    @njohnson6589 3 роки тому +4

    when i heard cracked header/expansion tank i was dubious.😞 more like cracked cylinder head.😅 Robbin Renee the rusty Renault.
    Love the guy smirking at the flannel
    from honest johns trap..😂great upload thanks👍👍

  • @jblack5323
    @jblack5323 Рік тому +3

    Dodgy cars were everywhere back then. My friends dad was a car dealer and he used to clock pretty much everything as it was so easy to do. People were less savvy back in this time as you couldn’t arm yourself with knowledge gained from the internet and viewing a nice shiny car on a forecourt did make you very blinkered. Buying a car was an exciting prospect back then but less so now, or maybe it’s because I’m old and have owned plenty lol.

  • @bonniedrasco8166
    @bonniedrasco8166 5 місяців тому +1

    Keep posting these classics

  • @st170restoration
    @st170restoration 2 роки тому +8

    Gawd…. that Renault chugging into life at 11 mins. It’s not a happy bunny

  • @avec4amadman1
    @avec4amadman1 3 роки тому +8

    Is that vehicle inspector at the beginning the farmer who fancied his labourer Ted in the fast show? “So, err, Ted, Will you be driving your Sierra today? Yes, you’ll look lovely behind the wheel” 😂

  • @brianfearn4246
    @brianfearn4246 3 роки тому +5

    I remember watching this on ch4
    Omg 24years .. NEVER BUY a second hand car without first seeing the registration form (log book) if it's not available simply walk away and don't let your heart rule your head.

  • @bagofspanners72
    @bagofspanners72 11 місяців тому +5

    Chris dont give a fulke, he'll sell anything 😂

  • @Redchannelconditions
    @Redchannelconditions Місяць тому +1

    Sierra Owner in 1997: So I traded in my Manta for this.
    Everyone in 2024: What?

  • @seanmeikle5477
    @seanmeikle5477 Рік тому +9

    He should have kept his opel manta he got £400 for as a trade in, it'd be 10 grand now 😂

    • @Juntasification
      @Juntasification Рік тому +2

      Hindsight of 20+ years. I've owned plenty of cars that would be considered classics by now, but werent worth a wooden dime back then.

    • @user-iu5my9tr3n
      @user-iu5my9tr3n Рік тому +2

      @@Juntasification Tell me about it, if I would have known I would have kept everything in a hangar.

    • @djclifty5259
      @djclifty5259 Рік тому

      Man I had 4 xr2 in the day xr3 just moved them on for next to nothing back then :(

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 Рік тому +1

      And Sierra prices have gone much more insane. Last February, Silverstone Car Auctions sold a black 1987 Sierra for an unbelievable £590,000 or thereabouts.

  • @johnking1381
    @johnking1381 3 роки тому +22

    Why is nobody standing on his throat?

  • @turboslag
    @turboslag 2 дні тому

    Every used car dealer I've ever had dealings with has been dodgy to some extent, some blatantly, some less so, but never clean. Som years ago I was asked to check out a small Renault, think it was a 3rd gen Clio, for a new young female driver friend, it was to be her first car. All good at first impression, good colour and spec, very clean, even under the bonnet and underside, no damage or evidence of repair, very low mileage for the year and only one owner. I checked it's history online, all clear, mileage verfied. Service history upto date, all docs and keys. I was surprised and impressed, so far! It was a small, local used car jockey, so said young girly asked if it was ok if I took it for a test drive with her. He agreed so off we went. Within about 5 miles I noticed the gearbox was notchy out of neutral into 1st and from 1st to second, and it became worse as we went. Eventually it was almost crunching into second, so obviously a synchro or selector problem. Shame because apart from that it was really good, and the price was great, for a reason! When we returned he was obviously expecting a quick sale, so his manner quickly changed when I mentioned the problem! He immediately told me I didn't know what I was talking about and that he'd personally driven and found it to be totally fine. So I said, ok, drive it now with me. We went out and it was obviously not ok, he was wrenching the gear lever quickly and forcefully in 1st and second, saying stuff like, what do you expect, it's a secondhand small Renault not a Merc!!! It only had 24k miles on it!! So I said I had a 12 year old Citroen Xantia, with 175k miles on it with a gear change like a hot knife through butter, and I know this has a gearbox fault!! He wouldn't talk to me then!! We returned, girly was waiting, looking expectantly, he jumped out of the car and said it's perfect, your wannabe expert here is an idiot, doesn't know what he's talking about. So, I asked if there was a warranty with the car, he said of course there is, 6 months, but I'd exclude the gearbox!!!! My response, so it's perfect but you don't have the confidence to cover the gearbox now I've made you aware of the problem??!! He waffled some BS, I took girly aside and said, it looks nice but that gearbox will just get worse and worse until it becomes undrivable, and you will be left with a bill around £800 to £1000 to pull the box, rebuild it and put it back, so it's your call but I'd walk away. Unfortunately her heart ruled her head, she ignored my advice, bought it, and you know where this is going! Within a few months 1st became unselectable and the box was as noisy as hell, she tried to get the dealer to cover the repair but he just basically said go away. She couldn't afford the repairs so sold it as spares or repairs, got about 25% of what she paid, a very hard lesson, especially as she'd had me check the car, find a problem then ignore me and buy it anyway!! That dealer, like most of them do, probably bought that as a dealer trade in, they found the problem, dumped it on him and the rest is all tears for the customer. Not quite the end of the story, girlies BF got revenge for her, went to his lot one night and threw gloss paint over most of his stock and finger wrote on one of the bonnets, robbing pr1ck!!!

  • @assistantto007
    @assistantto007 3 роки тому +12

    Fekking crooks, Arthur Daley wasn't this dodgy.

  • @peteglobe23
    @peteglobe23 11 місяців тому +1

    Rumour is ,,, she’s still sitting waiting on the car to cool down 😂😂😂

    • @chucky2316
      @chucky2316 11 місяців тому

      That car is in a piece of bridge China or India you name the place

  • @andicog
    @andicog 3 роки тому +9

    Trades in a solid 505 Peugeot for crap Renault, there's good reason why 505's and 504's are still knocking around Africa ! Guys a sleaze.

    • @dmcnamara9859
      @dmcnamara9859 2 місяці тому +1

      Im in the US, I've had crazy offers ( likely international connected brokers) for my 1987 505 liberte Wagon. Car just goes and goes,dirt cheap to maintain. Yeah,it probably would go to Africa to be used as a bush taxi making crazy money for the owner.

  • @owensteele1645
    @owensteele1645 8 місяців тому +2

    @17:13 The boot-spoiler-integrated central brake light was not working on the Hyundai.

  • @sameyers2670
    @sameyers2670 3 роки тому +6

    Looks like Evans Arnold is not trading anymore

  • @graemeedgar7654
    @graemeedgar7654 Рік тому +6

    buying a Vauxhall, that was his first mistake.

    • @Vanadeo
      @Vanadeo 11 місяців тому

      Corsa D I had a few weeks back... 1.2 screaming its bollox off dragging it's 1+ ton ass around Sheffield + Chain rattle.. Anyway before it exploded and gearbox died I went back to ford, Mk3 mondeo 2.2 Tdci titanium, best £600 I've spent.

  • @patrickjm3487
    @patrickjm3487 3 роки тому +13

    He said the Hyundai cars were called rocking horse in the trade and what about the miles and the fillers and the torn drivers side seat and he said that the Renault 21 only 60k miles on it
    yea right))
    The cheek of him saying that he makes over a million every year on dodgey cars,,
    And the woman who wanted the red Hyundai car was a live wire saying she
    Needed to have the power steering letting the seller know she was a live wire as they say in the trade))
    Chris was worst case of a car dealer I’ve ever seen))
    If he tried to do this clocking this day and age he would be stopped and could go to jail for clocking))
    If he tried this with any of my family he would need to go to the hospital for it!!
    An arrogant nobody is what he is))

    • @lee2217
      @lee2217 3 роки тому +1

      Selling that car on the hit list arrogant prick

    • @patrickjm3487
      @patrickjm3487 3 роки тому +1

      @Prince Andrew because he is a
      con man selling clocking cars which are far too dangerous when you are putting your young children in it ok that’s why I put all in why wat was it got to do with you anyway wise up

    • @patrickjm3487
      @patrickjm3487 3 роки тому +2

      @Prince Andrew sod off

  • @billdavies6463
    @billdavies6463 2 роки тому +11

    "He got away scot-free" at 20:00 - Chris F G, serial offender plus policeman's nark, which probably explains the low sentences he tends to gets. None of these people get the level of fine or imprisonment to deter them, and continue year after year, whilst well known to trading standards and the local police.

    • @karelpipa
      @karelpipa Рік тому

      by nark you mean informant?

  • @seanwallace1972
    @seanwallace1972 4 дні тому

    This should be a tv series,I’m sure there were more

  • @c11yan
    @c11yan 3 роки тому +11

    £400 for his Opel Manta 26.00 🙈

  • @antandbecksc
    @antandbecksc 3 роки тому +4

    Walking is great to help keep your mind clear, keep up the good work 💪☘

    • @christineayres7199
      @christineayres7199 Рік тому +1

      in 2023 most people have to walk as cars are too expensive and so is petrol LOL bet you didnt see that in pandemic era 2020 lol

    • @frankburnside2030
      @frankburnside2030 Рік тому +1

      That’s simply not true.

  • @TROJANP
    @TROJANP 3 роки тому +19

    11:06 that Renault he’s trying to sell sounds like dog shit , must of been embarrassing when it started , and then remembered “oh shit” I’m being recorded on tv 🤭

    • @kanjoracer4914
      @kanjoracer4914 2 роки тому

      Exactly what i thought, Bugger me it sounded bad

    • @garethjones8047
      @garethjones8047 Рік тому

      Its just how they sounded, my dad had 4 of them, all on taxis, they were a very durable engine

  • @seanwallace1972
    @seanwallace1972 4 дні тому

    Great video

  • @magirusdeutzjupiter2234
    @magirusdeutzjupiter2234 3 роки тому +5

    I once went to buy a honda civic, and it was advertised in very good condition. When I got to see the car it was a mess, and pointed out it out to the dealer, he was fuming so told me to get off site..I said yeah no problem, I dont like cowboys.

  • @team3383
    @team3383 2 роки тому +2

    I had a friend who did this for a living ! Buying totalled BMW's mostly. He laughs and talks about it openly ... "he doesn't do it anymore" No 'coz he's retired years ago.

  • @ralphralefeta1179
    @ralphralefeta1179 3 роки тому +1

    good job on exposing thuggish dealers,thank you for the video

  • @emmetdonnelly2072
    @emmetdonnelly2072 Рік тому +6

    The Renault sounded clapped out starting up.

    • @karelpipa
      @karelpipa Рік тому

      yep. Already almost dead

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 Рік тому +2

      The 6-year-old Renault 21 2.0 GTX didn't have long. Its tax ran out in October the same year, so was scrapped at that time. I bet the scrap-man was surprised to see something so recent arrive at his yard. Today's equivalent would be a '17-plate Scenic or Kadjar being neglected badly and ending up scrapped.

    • @karelpipa
      @karelpipa Рік тому +1

      @@owensteele1645 you can kill a car quite easily if ya really want :)

    • @emmetdonnelly2072
      @emmetdonnelly2072 Рік тому +1

      ​@@owensteele1645yes I remember back around the late 90s scrap yards were full of cars from the 70s and early 80s and nothing really young because people repaired their cars and there weren't many finance options plus wages were low as well.
      Now in scrap yards seeing a vehicle older than 15 years is a rarity.

  • @nicholaskennedy1748
    @nicholaskennedy1748 4 роки тому +39

    Chris Fulke Greville is still ripping people off! Just type his name into google....

    • @gordoncampbell100
      @gordoncampbell100 3 роки тому +3

      And this documentary is 23 years old ,

    • @hossywoof
      @hossywoof 3 роки тому +15

      Wow, unbelievable after reading about this guy. He even defrauded his own brother and sister. Not just a rogue trader but a disgusting individual. How can some people live with themselves!

    • @MrSlozzer
      @MrSlozzer 3 роки тому +6

      @@hossywoof it's incredible this man is still a fraudster ! I bought a car off this guy a year ago ! I always thought he seemed dodgy, fortunately no problems with the car so far but I was very surprised when I did some research

    • @thedeadstig123
      @thedeadstig123 3 роки тому +5

      @@gordoncampbell100 this documentary is 23 years old and trading standards knew of him for 15 year back then..... only in 2018 did he have to pay back 400k to the elderly that he'd conned

    • @chucky2316
      @chucky2316 3 роки тому +2

      @@thedeadstig123 trading standards are useless, they endorse cowboys nowadays.

  • @adeladd7638
    @adeladd7638 3 роки тому +5

    Sounds like Arthur Smith doing the commentary.

  • @jblack5323
    @jblack5323 Рік тому +3

    Those Renault of that era always had issues with the switches, and the engines were so course, listen to the top end noise when it starts at @31:36, but I loved my 21 Turbo I had back in 2007.

  • @fredflintstoner596
    @fredflintstoner596 11 місяців тому +3

    Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
    Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
    Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
    Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
    Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
    Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
    Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
    Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"

    • @piledriverpotter9847
      @piledriverpotter9847 14 днів тому +1

      Mrs Richards - Call that a bath. Not big enough for a mouse.
      Basil. - I wish you were a mouse.

    • @fredflintstoner596
      @fredflintstoner596 14 днів тому

      @@piledriverpotter9847 WHAT IS WIT NIT ?

  • @brianfearn4246
    @brianfearn4246 3 роки тому +6

    Mrs Alcock's Renault 21 was only 5 years old at the time. It was probably giving the original owner a headache from new.
    Even some main car dealers carnt find every fault on a new car. If a fault is in the car from new it will most likely keep raising its ugly head for ever. Even though this was 24 years ago I felt sorry for the guy with the brand new Vauxhall. The dealership should have replaced his new car whitout quibble.

    • @Landie_Man
      @Landie_Man 2 роки тому +6

      Her Peugeot she sold outlasted the Renault.

  • @sergeantcrow
    @sergeantcrow Рік тому +2

    Use Cleaning Tape ! Ha ha... Wonderful VHS. : ) Apparently 'Cut & Shut' carried out correctly with accurate 'saw tooth' joint and where alignment is precise will work well... but I doubt many are ever done that way..

  • @damian-795
    @damian-795 3 роки тому +7

    16:23 What a load of bollocks, talking out his neck. The old Hyundai`s were crap, they are good now though

  • @dj4myparty
    @dj4myparty 3 роки тому +4

    I lived above that shop in addlestone , I must have met that man a few times

  • @michaeledwards427
    @michaeledwards427 Рік тому +3

    If the car owner hadn't had his Mrs with him he'd have floored the schiester!!!

  • @tomwilliams7391
    @tomwilliams7391 10 місяців тому +2

    1997 looks a very long time ago in 2023!

    • @Redchannelconditions
      @Redchannelconditions 10 місяців тому +1

      Here I am in 2023 going “you HAD a Manta and PX’d it against a Sierra. A Manta for a Sierra? Really?”

    • @jonathanw844
      @jonathanw844 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I thought the same thing about about the manta 😮

    • @Redchannelconditions
      @Redchannelconditions 9 місяців тому

      @@jonathanw844 either he wasn’t thinking. He was forced into it. Or the manta wasn’t worth much in 1997

    • @swaneknoctic9555
      @swaneknoctic9555 8 місяців тому +1

      Likes lots of older videos and photos picture quality makes them look far older. If this was in high quality it wouldn't look that old. I was very much alive in 1997 and it didn't look much different to today.

  • @icgeorge
    @icgeorge 3 роки тому +6

    clocking still gos on

  • @keith800
    @keith800 5 місяців тому

    A friend of mine in a similar situation took his finance company to court as he found out that they should have had the car inspected before agreeing to loan the money for it ,he won his case and was compensated in full for it.

  • @boobsthechemist2067
    @boobsthechemist2067 3 роки тому +1

    I’m surprised the logbook didn’t give the game away when it was listed as a Sierra/Renault crossbreed

  • @kanjoracer4914
    @kanjoracer4914 2 роки тому +4

    That Chris bloke is a real life Terry Tibbs

  • @giogio4833
    @giogio4833 3 роки тому +10

    Gallon of oil a week 😂😂😂

    • @craigethorley623
      @craigethorley623 2 роки тому

      Controlled consumption :-)

    • @rampantram1
      @rampantram1 Рік тому

      Well it is a fixed or repaired daily lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @davidyoung9561
    @davidyoung9561 Рік тому +4

    That Renault being a 5/6 year old car with all those problems but then I know 2018 cars with more problems. The dealer with the bold head, what a rip off merchant. Fair play to the woman that bought the Renault 21 GTX for standing her ground and the Scotish man with his new Vauxhall. My Scotish mother would have ripped the dealer a new arsehole. Oct 1997 I was nearly 18 then and already had my fair share of bad motorbike dealers.

    • @karelpipa
      @karelpipa Рік тому

      he was jailed few times as i googled his name

  • @mattrehm8612
    @mattrehm8612 Рік тому +5

    I bought a Transit a few years ago off this guy. He seemed nice enough, I knew what I was buying and it lasted me the 3 years I thought it had left in it, and the price I paid wasn't more than what it was worth at the time. I spotted the faults myself that I could see from it's MOT history and spent a while underneath it looking at the corrosion which I knew would only last me the time I thought. Good van.
    However, he definitely seemed an odd person, I went into his garage/office which was at the back of the house shown in this video, and he had all the rallying trophies and memorabilia on display, that you can see in interview shots of him on this video. I remember he had some serious injuries, he said from recent crashes in rallying and motor racing. He showed me his cars and rally bits.
    Kinda shocked in an interesting way seeing this video!

  • @MrSupercar55
    @MrSupercar55 3 роки тому +1

    10:26 That’s a lovely Porsche 928 parked next to the white Mondeo.

  • @Landie_Man
    @Landie_Man 2 роки тому

    “You driving this?!”
    “Brakes work don’t they?!”

  • @gmain1977
    @gmain1977 Рік тому +3

    That guy dodgy, convicted conman he was doing stuff even upto a few years go

  • @yozza4978
    @yozza4978 17 днів тому

    I had a Renault 21 turbo back in the late 90s, was so fast, but im sure if i still had it today it would feel slow asf compared to todays cars.

  • @Motorized-BikerUk
    @Motorized-BikerUk 3 роки тому +4

    Wondering why an electric fans isnt working on a renault.. then seeing what looks like clear water coming from the coolant bottle..
    You just brought a renault kettle model love, grab a cup and a tea bag and lets have a talk about how headgaskets work and that 'couple more miles' you wanted out of it. What a ropey old shed.

  • @BATMAN-lw8gg
    @BATMAN-lw8gg 3 роки тому +1

    That car dealer crafty man

  • @piledriverpotter9847
    @piledriverpotter9847 14 днів тому

    When viewing a car, if in doubt walk away. Don't be talked into a purchase by a pushy salesman. Remember they are the sellers, they need to sell, you're the buyer but you don't have to buy.

  • @Eddie1992uk
    @Eddie1992uk 3 роки тому +6

    Has anyone ever actually heard of "rocking horse cars" 🤨

  • @franriding6473
    @franriding6473 3 роки тому +4

    Buy used cars is stressful unless you know cars.

  • @jamiejent32
    @jamiejent32 3 роки тому +11

    Every car was a ford back in the day

    • @georgepeg6167
      @georgepeg6167 3 роки тому +1

      Still is I will always buy one

    • @jamiejent32
      @jamiejent32 3 роки тому

      @@georgepeg6167 its no audi is

    • @blakaeg
      @blakaeg Рік тому

      @@jamiejent32I wouldn’t want an Audi. Such a common car just like it’s big brother VW.

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 11 місяців тому

      It's Hyundai now.

  • @andyw3152
    @andyw3152 Рік тому +3

    That Renault 21 was last taxed in 1997!!

    • @karelpipa
      @karelpipa Рік тому +1

      judging by how the engine sounded in the video, it had only a few miles to go already

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 Рік тому

      @@karelpipa Yeah, it sounded like it had run dry of oil at some point. Only receiving the odd top-up whenever the red light came on I expect. It hadn't been serviced.

    • @danielbridson8534
      @danielbridson8534 11 місяців тому

      Pressurising it’s tits off
      Head Gasket Failure
      Hes Foulked her good and proper shady cant

  • @Me-zo8yc
    @Me-zo8yc 2 роки тому

    Apparently the credits music was by The Fratelli Brothers...the same ones that did Chelsea Dagger?!

  • @bobcharlie7982
    @bobcharlie7982 3 роки тому +5

    That thing would still be worth about 20k these days. Bloody ford weirdo tax!

  • @beausexon7546
    @beausexon7546 5 місяців тому +1

    My old boss sued this guy Chris in a huge way in the 90s, and he had to downsize his house.

  • @karelpipa
    @karelpipa Рік тому +1

    Not related, but a Ford Mondeo in Genk was just being manufactured about the time this documentary was showed on TV and was bought by me in 2008.
    I bought it from a bloke who also had many other cars to sale like this guy. Of course the Mondeo had oil leaking and oil consumption problems and also handbrake didnt work, but otherwise it wasnt all that bad buy. Ran till 2019 and i sorely miss it.

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 8 місяців тому

      Was the Mondeo an R-plate? In 2008 would have been around a £1k to £1500 car. It did very well to last as long as it did. Clutch wear (expensive job, suspension has to come off to change clutch), dealership scrappage schemes and ABS failure ended the life of quite a few mk1/2 Mondeos.

    • @karelpipa
      @karelpipa 8 місяців тому

      @@owensteele1645 i am not based in UK, but the price was indeed very close to that.
      You can see me driving it on my channel in plenty of videos like here:
      ua-cam.com/video/P_8v-tszkuY/v-deo.html
      Rust, worn out engine and overall worn ''outtness'' has ended the car in 2019 sadly :( ABS worked fine though.
      Shifting was a bit problematic, maybe the clutch was worn too.

  • @dean6816
    @dean6816 4 дні тому

    I had an E reg Sierra that used more oil than petrol! Solid as a rock though!!

  • @regsideboard6816
    @regsideboard6816 Рік тому +1

    Pay by finance they more likely to help you...pay cash they less likely to help you.

  • @MrSupercar55
    @MrSupercar55 Рік тому

    3:45 It started out as an automatic transmission but was reborn as a manual transmission. That in itself wouldn’t be so bad. I prefer using a clutch and a stick to select gears.

  • @theoneandonlybanterking6385
    @theoneandonlybanterking6385 3 роки тому +18

    Where else can u hire a sierra for a year for £200

    • @MrSupercar55
      @MrSupercar55 3 роки тому +1

      No idea now. They’re ancient things now. The majority of them have been scrapped.

    • @owensteele1645
      @owensteele1645 Рік тому

      Even rotten basket-case Sierras are stupid prices now. I read somewhere that a black 1987 Sierra sold for nearly £600,000 at auction last February. It was a clean example though.

  • @tfairley1187
    @tfairley1187 14 днів тому

    I reckon the Sierras front half could've been a taxi looking at the roof aerial 🤔

  • @aktyper7384
    @aktyper7384 Рік тому +2

    Vauxhall sounded like a runaway diesel

  • @F4Insight-uq6nt
    @F4Insight-uq6nt Рік тому +5

    If Cut and Shut is done professionally by skilled fabricators it can be fine in some circumstances. There is a lot of variables to consider.

    • @grahamhewitt4938
      @grahamhewitt4938 11 місяців тому +3

      This is a joke right

    • @perchancethishandleiswens
      @perchancethishandleiswens 10 місяців тому

      Nope, you can only go so far as long as you don't touch the chassis.Unless that shop has a 100 ton press machine that could shape a floor pan and frame.
      Changing outer body panels like doors, hood, wings are still fine.

  • @Jaysiphone
    @Jaysiphone 11 місяців тому +1

    At 30:51 you can spot it from a mile how much that rear wheel is tucked in than the front that would of put me off straight away

  • @chrishill9276
    @chrishill9276 3 роки тому +9

    That Sierra has an 1800 CVH engine fitted what do you expect with reliability they were shite from new ~ No excuse for the bad repair though......lol

    • @chucky2316
      @chucky2316 3 роки тому +6

      The cvh engine was a good unit, the stem seal oil seals would go after a while but easy fix. And be good again. I had many cvh engines and they took a ragging

    • @chrishill9276
      @chrishill9276 3 роки тому +2

      @@chucky2316 We used to sell the taxi drivers old OHC engines and the bit of loom required and then they binned the CVH lumps due to ratllement and smoke ~ I couldn't get enough at one time when I had a scrap yard

    • @chucky2316
      @chucky2316 3 роки тому +2

      @@chrishill9276 those ohc engines used to be very tappety. The cvh used to have problems due to neglect infrequent oil changes, the breathers never got cleaned as they should. The ohc engine was also very asthmatic although bombproof

    • @lee2217
      @lee2217 3 роки тому +1

      @@chrishill9276
      We used too buy old taxi and clock them
      Just kidding and 90% were cvh
      They are fine if serviced

    • @chrishill9276
      @chrishill9276 3 роки тому +1

      @@lee2217 Yeah but Taxi drivers round here bought them half knackered anyway....lol 🤣

  • @hamonryechinaski180
    @hamonryechinaski180 3 роки тому +3

    Karma. Shit on customers with a cut and shut, demand THEY pay the £150...be on Channel 4 and get outed. Great!

  • @fatwalletboy2
    @fatwalletboy2 Рік тому +1

    She was garping on about her deposit...why would she expect the trader to give that back?

  • @1308wayne
    @1308wayne 2 роки тому +2

    I would never buy a car from a dealer private seller or car auction for me

    • @Vanadeo
      @Vanadeo 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes this!.. Last 2 cars I bought privately really surprised me. It pays to at least learn a it about cars as well.. It's good these days, at least you can do research on a car and get a rough idea what to look out for easily over the internet. £600 my recent buy.. It had problems, I fixed em so about £700 for a car with 12month MOT and runs like a dream.

  • @brianfearn4246
    @brianfearn4246 3 роки тому +2

    Some customers seemed to be part exchanging better cars for ones that were a lot worse. Sucked in by a sweet talking devil.

  • @maverick9767
    @maverick9767 3 роки тому +4

    11:07 That Renault sounds fucked

  • @babbingtondavid
    @babbingtondavid Рік тому

    These dealers are lucky that the people they have shafted have not burned down their properties.

    • @chucky2316
      @chucky2316 11 місяців тому +1

      Trying to find em is the issue

  • @fakechannel7751
    @fakechannel7751 3 роки тому +2

    Anyone else think it said I love Bradford on the back of sierra

  • @dale437
    @dale437 9 днів тому

    The good old days