Thank you so much for recording this. I was looking to buy these to compensate bumpy, cracked terrain. I try to avoid it as much as possible but it’s obviously not always possible. This was a great examination on them for average use.
The closest parallel I have experience with is road bikes vs mountain bikes. Both work on pavement/asphalt, but the mountain bike requires a lot more effort because the tires have a much wider profile (I personally preferred that for fitness reasons). You can also feel everything on a road bike, whereas the mountain bike feels like gliding, especially downhill.
This sounds perfect. I DON'T want 20 mile rides. My knees hurt and my $2.5K used MTN bike takes too long to give me a workout and requires WAY more maintenance than inflating small tires 1/1.5 weeks.
Nice review. I have often fallen because of a stick on the cement or even a rock getting stuck between the wheel and the frame while going downhill will small wheels, so have been considering something like this. And like you said, the reduced speed can be a benefit in some situations.
Thanks Grant, for your review. I bought these a year ago and I haven't been able to use them at all because I can't get enough air in the tires to be able to get enough rolling resistance. I used them for the first two weeks and found that I couldn't go up hills at all, however going down hills was fine. I ended up buying roller ski poles which really helped, at least I could use them on pavement. The promo videos that were out were not helpful at all, it showed that they were useable for an average skater. They are not, I abandoned them and have gone back to my regular blades. I am planning on taking them back to the store and having them put air in the tires which for some reason I can't do. I have roller skis with pneumatic tires and love them. I have never had an problems with them and they were much cheaper so I was pretty disappointed with this purchase, I thought they would perform the same. Maybe if the store can change the boot, and show me how to put air in the tires properly then I might be able to use them this season. I live across the street from a mountain that has trails so I am hoping that I can go up on the lift and maybe come down the trails, other than that I might be able to use them like roller skis and do maybe a 2km lap in my neighbourhood where the pavement is flat. I don't recommend any buying these until the technology is improved, unless they are either extremely fit or extremely skilled at going downhill like shown in the power slide video. Just stick with normal skates and stay on pavement for now.
When I got mine, one of my wheels had a valve core that was not all the way tight. If you wanted to continue troubleshooting on your own I would try checking all the valve cores for tightness, then I would fill them up to the max psi. For mine it is 100, and I never ride them any distance without filling them because there is such a big difference between even 80 and 100 psi on them. Sorry they haven't been working for you :/
@@sevenslacks Thanks! I am going to take them back to the store and see if they can fix the air issue. Then I am going to try to modify the boot a bit, the boot you have is better than the one I have which may be part of the issue. Out of curiosity, do you know what type of setup works best on poor pavement other than going pneumatic? Is 3 wheel better with harder or softer wheels? I can't find any information anywhere on this. Where I live there is a lot of decent pavement but it is all old so difficult to skate on with my other skates, I find I have to drive to a place that has good pavement. For the pneumatic skates are just too much for work for me to go out for a pleasure ride.
I'm so glad you did this review. I'm seriously looking into purchasing the 125 or 150 skates, and as you know they are not cheap! One question I do have for you Grant... How do stop with them, without messing up the wheels? Please respond.... Also, I live in Columbus as well... and I thought, I was the only one that noticed the different behaviors of individuals that live here in Columbus. Thank you for pointing out the behaviors here! I have lived in a few other states, and I have never experienced anything like this before.
I tried to search for the name of the stop I typically employ. It's something like a 'single leg plow stop', where I allow one skate to roll towards the other while I apply an outward pressure to it, then reset as much as needed. If you search 'plow stop' it may make more sense. It's far more effective for braking and reducing wear on these wheels as apposed to say a T stop. I also noticed that with the size of the wheels and the material, T stops are a bit too clunky. I should make another video with more of an emphasis on actual riding footage and showing the stop I use. Hope that helps and hope to see you out here one of these days!
Thanks for the video dude. It’s unbelievable how much of a lack of information there is on these wheels. I just picked up a pair of these used and I had trouble filling up the tires. Had to get a Schrader valve extender and took some finagling to get air into them. Finally got them up to about 80psi and they are pretty slow on roads but ride decently well on grass and dirt. I need to find a better pump to try to get them closer to 100psi. Any tips of maintenance or a pump you prefer to use?
I wish I had seen your clip before I had the great idea to do a nature trail stage around Lake Constance (Switzerland, Austria, Germany) on those SUVs xD. thanks for your valuable feedback clip! you're right! this one is important! Greetings from Switzerland, my dear skating friend
I am looking to buy them for dirtjumping and your video still has been helpful. It is not so great that they need so much more energy, but I think it is still worth it. I definitely want to try it. And I am feeling way better about it now, that I found a non sponsored video.
I like the idea of a removable boot like that , the old metroblade did that, so you can kick them off when have to cross area that is is unskatable or uphill, check out my crazy off road skates. what boot is that?
I got a pair of it (second hand) because of our road conditions here. It handles a lot of uneven roads yeah, but the issue is, it's much slower than regular PU wheels. But I will try to experiment with things such as putting 125mm PU wheel on the middle of each skate if it can handle speed. Or just removing the middle of the wheel so it becomes lighter. The difficult for me is to turn. Longer wheelbases with flat setup can be really hard to turn. Do you have some techniques and tips to turn properly with only two wheels on each skate?
Hey, How slow are they, I don't want hugespeed, But also don't want them to be ultra slow.... I will be using them on bad rough roads, concrete etc..... do you reccomend?
@@Skyee_AK they are good on downhills, but on straight roads, unless you have a strong pair of legs, they're super slow and very tiring. But they are good on off roads tho.
@@JayHeartwing Hey, Thanks, But how slow are they?, I get mixed reviews from people, Many people skate them on pavements I see, Are they unusable at flat rough surfaces or is it still a good enough cruising speed with some effort? I don't mind the effort as long as it's not too much.
@@Skyee_AK Basing on my own experience, it always slows down immediately after some couple of strides, and it's also hard to maintain speed. I always catch a breath everytime I try to cruise with it. It's just good on downhills and off-roads. Tho there's a technique if you still want to keep your SUV setup. Like if your frame has 125mm wheels, you can buy 125mm PU wheels for it. And some washers too since the frame's too wide for regular PU wheels.
I'm also thinking of buying a Doop and using it for commuting. I'm thinking the same as you, so I'm going to copy your setup. So I have a question for you: How do you slow down and stop when going downhill? It seems like off-road tires wear out quickly and have to be replaced soon. Do you have any good advice? (From Japan)
Hey Grant love the video! Question: currently I just have standard rollerblades. If I swapped to larger speed skate polly wheels do you think I’d see much of a difference on rougher terrain like bricks as you mentioned or are these off road inflatable wheels where you see a noticeable just in smoothness?
A bit yeah. Overall: i'd say they are ok on the roads while it's wet, but non ideal on the trails in the wet. Biggest issue I was seeing was not so much in the pavement but riding over debris after rain, specifically leaves. The combination of pushing off on a leaf while the pavement is wet can make it feel like you're on a grease plate. Just slides right out. Hope that helps.
The problem is not the skates, the problem is the dirt on the shoulder of the road 🤣. In Germany we clean the shoulders of the roads as well. In the US the dirt is piling for decades…
Thanks for the great video Grant. Just wondering if they pack down much? I checked the PS size chart and at 280mm I'm between sizes (very strange big gaps in sizing) in the 150 Outback and on the upper the upper limit (282mm) with the 125 Renegade which I'm guessing will be OK if I wear thin socks and they pack down. Would you agree?
I tried to search for the name of the stop I typically employ. It's something like a 'single leg plow stop', where I allow one skate to roll towards the other while I apply an outward pressure to it, then reset as much as needed. If you search 'plow stop' it may make more sense.
I am so glad you brought this up… I had to return them because it was becoming so incredibly frustrating! I was really looking forward to enjoy some off-road time… shame…
Had a hard time finding a pair as well. I ended up getting the first decent pair I could find on Ebay. I've seen the frames come up on some websites like 'AliExpress', though I can't vouch for that website as i've never used it. That's probably what i'll end up using when I get the 150 version if I can't find another on Ebay.
Hello Grant I live in the country with the bad / rough asphalt roads and i just wonder if you would recommend using these wheels on the bad asphalt over polyurethane wheels? BR
Yes I would. You won't be breaking any speed records but it should be far more comfortable and stable than similarly sized polyurethane wheels. Depending on how rough the roads are you may not even be losing that much more speed with the switch to rubber. Riding on the types of roads you described with polyurethane wheels seems like unnecessary and miserable vibration after having ridden these.
Its stupid till this generation big bearings are not still invented. Well, still many shocks will be there in these big wheels also offroads and bla bla. Big wheels and more stupidier bigger wheels just to hamper the feet and more and more weight and more dangers are created. Its actually stupid that how many physicians are working behind to create big and bigger wheels just to rely on these small wheels. Compare to the wheels the bearings arnt small, they are tiny. Whats needed is big bearings...thats only us Chinese knows.... phew.....🤦🤦🤦
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Thank you so much for recording this. I was looking to buy these to compensate bumpy, cracked terrain. I try to avoid it as much as possible but it’s obviously not always possible. This was a great examination on them for average use.
Glad it was helpful!
@@sevenslacks I have normal 125 next trinity frame, can I just get Outback wheels and fix it on the 125 trinity frame i have ?
@@varghessmith2985 no, the outback wheels are wider than normal wheels
Excellent review , good info. 150 200 miles of experience . Yes useful review.
The closest parallel I have experience with is road bikes vs mountain bikes. Both work on pavement/asphalt, but the mountain bike requires a lot more effort because the tires have a much wider profile (I personally preferred that for fitness reasons). You can also feel everything on a road bike, whereas the mountain bike feels like gliding, especially downhill.
OMG this is exactly what I wanted I live in India so yeah pretty self explanatory
Hey, I too live in India.. Would you recommend them? I will be skating on them bad / rough roads and concrete... :)
Great review man, I was also thinking about those skates and I wasn't sure about the 125 or 150 in 2 or 3 wheels. Really helpful your experience 👍
This sounds perfect. I DON'T want 20 mile rides. My knees hurt and my $2.5K used MTN bike takes too long to give me a workout and requires WAY more maintenance than inflating small tires 1/1.5 weeks.
I am considering of buying one of these off-road skates and thanks a lot for sharing your experience. It's really helpful.
Nice review. I have often fallen because of a stick on the cement or even a rock getting stuck between the wheel and the frame while going downhill will small wheels, so have been considering something like this. And like you said, the reduced speed can be a benefit in some situations.
Grant! Thank you for this review!! I can’t stop in 110mm wheels so I was thinking of picking these up for asphalt so I can keep safe.
Thanks Grant, for your review. I bought these a year ago and I haven't been able to use them at all because I can't get enough air in the tires to be able to get enough rolling resistance. I used them for the first two weeks and found that I couldn't go up hills at all, however going down hills was fine. I ended up buying roller ski poles which really helped, at least I could use them on pavement. The promo videos that were out were not helpful at all, it showed that they were useable for an average skater. They are not, I abandoned them and have gone back to my regular blades. I am planning on taking them back to the store and having them put air in the tires which for some reason I can't do. I have roller skis with pneumatic tires and love them. I have never had an problems with them and they were much cheaper so I was pretty disappointed with this purchase, I thought they would perform the same. Maybe if the store can change the boot, and show me how to put air in the tires properly then I might be able to use them this season. I live across the street from a mountain that has trails so I am hoping that I can go up on the lift and maybe come down the trails, other than that I might be able to use them like roller skis and do maybe a 2km lap in my neighbourhood where the pavement is flat. I don't recommend any buying these until the technology is improved, unless they are either extremely fit or extremely skilled at going downhill like shown in the power slide video. Just stick with normal skates and stay on pavement for now.
When I got mine, one of my wheels had a valve core that was not all the way tight. If you wanted to continue troubleshooting on your own I would try checking all the valve cores for tightness, then I would fill them up to the max psi. For mine it is 100, and I never ride them any distance without filling them because there is such a big difference between even 80 and 100 psi on them. Sorry they haven't been working for you :/
@@sevenslacks Thanks! I am going to take them back to the store and see if they can fix the air issue. Then I am going to try to modify the boot a bit, the boot you have is better than the one I have which may be part of the issue. Out of curiosity, do you know what type of setup works best on poor pavement other than going pneumatic? Is 3 wheel better with harder or softer wheels? I can't find any information anywhere on this. Where I live there is a lot of decent pavement but it is all old so difficult to skate on with my other skates, I find I have to drive to a place that has good pavement. For the pneumatic skates are just too much for work for me to go out for a pleasure ride.
Hey would you recommend roller skis or... these 125mm off road skates for skating on really bad concrete or asphalt roads?
I was about to get these, but your comment has made me think some more. I didn't realise it would be so hard to pump them up.
Great review. Thank you!
I'm so glad you did this review. I'm seriously looking into purchasing the 125 or 150 skates, and as you know they are not cheap! One question I do have for you Grant... How do stop with them, without messing up the wheels? Please respond.... Also, I live in Columbus as well... and I thought, I was the only one that noticed the different behaviors of individuals that live here in Columbus. Thank you for pointing out the behaviors here! I have lived in a few other states, and I have never experienced anything like this before.
I tried to search for the name of the stop I typically employ. It's something like a 'single leg plow stop', where I allow one skate to roll towards the other while I apply an outward pressure to it, then reset as much as needed. If you search 'plow stop' it may make more sense. It's far more effective for braking and reducing wear on these wheels as apposed to say a T stop. I also noticed that with the size of the wheels and the material, T stops are a bit too clunky. I should make another video with more of an emphasis on actual riding footage and showing the stop I use. Hope that helps and hope to see you out here one of these days!
@@sevenslacks Thank you for your quick response. I like your idea of making a video with an emphasis riding, slowing and stopping.
Thanks for the video dude. It’s unbelievable how much of a lack of information there is on these wheels. I just picked up a pair of these used and I had trouble filling up the tires. Had to get a Schrader valve extender and took some finagling to get air into them. Finally got them up to about 80psi and they are pretty slow on roads but ride decently well on grass and dirt. I need to find a better pump to try to get them closer to 100psi. Any tips of maintenance or a pump you prefer to use?
Late but try a compressor. Cheap at Lowes or homes depot
I wish I had seen your clip before I had the great idea to do a nature trail stage around Lake Constance (Switzerland, Austria, Germany) on those SUVs xD. thanks for your valuable feedback clip! you're right! this one is important! Greetings from Switzerland, my dear skating friend
Hi! How did it go? I was planning to do this in september, any tips? Thanks
Thanks for answering all my questions!!!
I am looking to buy them for dirtjumping and your video still has been helpful. It is not so great that they need so much more energy, but I think it is still worth it. I definitely want to try it.
And I am feeling way better about it now, that I found a non sponsored video.
Good thoughts man.
I like the idea of a removable boot like that , the old metroblade did that, so you can kick them off when have to cross area that is is unskatable or uphill, check out my crazy off road skates. what boot is that?
125mm polyurethane wheels might be a better choice if you are not too much in actual off road
Looking forward to trying these on pavement since I'm not a speed pro
I got a pair of it (second hand) because of our road conditions here. It handles a lot of uneven roads yeah, but the issue is, it's much slower than regular PU wheels. But I will try to experiment with things such as putting 125mm PU wheel on the middle of each skate if it can handle speed. Or just removing the middle of the wheel so it becomes lighter.
The difficult for me is to turn. Longer wheelbases with flat setup can be really hard to turn. Do you have some techniques and tips to turn properly with only two wheels on each skate?
Hey, How slow are they, I don't want hugespeed, But also don't want them to be ultra slow.... I will be using them on bad rough roads, concrete etc..... do you reccomend?
@@Skyee_AK they are good on downhills, but on straight roads, unless you have a strong pair of legs, they're super slow and very tiring.
But they are good on off roads tho.
@@JayHeartwing Hey, Thanks, But how slow are they?, I get mixed reviews from people, Many people skate them on pavements I see, Are they unusable at flat rough surfaces or is it still a good enough cruising speed with some effort?
I don't mind the effort as long as it's not too much.
@@Skyee_AK Basing on my own experience, it always slows down immediately after some couple of strides, and it's also hard to maintain speed. I always catch a breath everytime I try to cruise with it.
It's just good on downhills and off-roads.
Tho there's a technique if you still want to keep your SUV setup. Like if your frame has 125mm wheels, you can buy 125mm PU wheels for it. And some washers too since the frame's too wide for regular PU wheels.
@@JayHeartwing Ah awesome, That's a good idea, Would the regular PU wheels work just as good on bad surfaces and small gravel? Lets say 125mm wheels.
I'm also thinking of buying a Doop and using it for commuting. I'm thinking the same as you, so I'm going to copy your setup.
So I have a question for you:
How do you slow down and stop when going downhill?
It seems like off-road tires wear out quickly and have to be replaced soon.
Do you have any good advice?
(From Japan)
Thanks for the review and your insight :) Helped alot.
Awesome review! Most detailed one I’ve seen by far, but how do these feel on wet concrete?
Looking forward to trying these on pavement since I'm not a pro
Hey Grant love the video! Question: currently I just have standard rollerblades. If I swapped to larger speed skate polly wheels do you think I’d see much of a difference on rougher terrain like bricks as you mentioned or are these off road inflatable wheels where you see a noticeable just in smoothness?
Any experience in wet weather? I live in the pnw and am looking for something to let me blade during the off season
A bit yeah. Overall: i'd say they are ok on the roads while it's wet, but non ideal on the trails in the wet. Biggest issue I was seeing was not so much in the pavement but riding over debris after rain, specifically leaves. The combination of pushing off on a leaf while the pavement is wet can make it feel like you're on a grease plate. Just slides right out. Hope that helps.
Thanks dude
Helped a lot!
can you use a compressor to help you inflate them? 2wks is not a short interval, compared to road bicycles.
True, road bike wheels deflate quickly
The problem is not the skates, the problem is the dirt on the shoulder of the road 🤣. In Germany we clean the shoulders of the roads as well. In the US the dirt is piling for decades…
Thanks for the great video Grant. Just wondering if they pack down much? I checked the PS size chart and at 280mm I'm between sizes (very strange big gaps in sizing) in the 150 Outback and on the upper the upper limit (282mm) with the 125 Renegade which I'm guessing will be OK if I wear thin socks and they pack down. Would you agree?
How do you stop on these cause power slide and the tstop will wreck the wheels
I tried to search for the name of the stop I typically employ. It's something like a 'single leg plow stop', where I allow one skate to roll towards the other while I apply an outward pressure to it, then reset as much as needed. If you search 'plow stop' it may make more sense.
Is it okay to use late braking such as pararel slide/power stop without breaking the wheels?
Please, use the metric system next time.
4 miles = 6,4374km
10 miles = 16,0935km
12miles = 19,3km
Not too far...
In fact I hear a lot of disadvantages. Thank you for the review!
Awesome Review 👍!!!
Hello, did you have any experience how to change a flat tire? IT is impssible with common bike tools.
I am so glad you brought this up… I had to return them because it was becoming so incredibly frustrating! I was really looking forward to enjoy some off-road time… shame…
Nice review, where did you buy it? I've been trying to purchase the frame but I can't find it anywhere
Had a hard time finding a pair as well. I ended up getting the first decent pair I could find on Ebay. I've seen the frames come up on some websites like 'AliExpress', though I can't vouch for that website as i've never used it. That's probably what i'll end up using when I get the 150 version if I can't find another on Ebay.
@@sevenslacks Yeah same, I think I'll buy the 150 edge version there cause is cheaper
I aint skating anymore until big bearings are invented
Hello Grant
I live in the country with the bad / rough asphalt roads and i just wonder if you would recommend using these wheels on the bad asphalt over polyurethane wheels?
BR
Yes I would. You won't be breaking any speed records but it should be far more comfortable and stable than similarly sized polyurethane wheels. Depending on how rough the roads are you may not even be losing that much more speed with the switch to rubber. Riding on the types of roads you described with polyurethane wheels seems like unnecessary and miserable vibration after having ridden these.
Very helpful
Thanks :)
Thanks
If you remove the middle wheel and put in a metal plate can you shred in a skatepark?
There's a new frame from a brand called Iqon if you're interested in big wheels that can also grind 😯
Where can we get it from please!!
Which websites!!
Powerslide
I love roller blades but I don't have one
Its stupid till this generation big bearings are not still invented.
Well, still many shocks will be there in these big wheels also offroads and bla bla.
Big wheels and more stupidier bigger wheels just to hamper the feet and more and more weight and more dangers are created.
Its actually stupid that how many physicians are working behind to create big and bigger wheels just to rely on these small wheels.
Compare to the wheels the bearings arnt small, they are tiny.
Whats needed is big bearings...thats only us Chinese knows....
phew.....🤦🤦🤦
These have special bearings
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