NATO's existence as a military alliance of the US in Europe would always look at opportunities to drag countries into war. Regardless of the Russian invasion of Ukraine NATO would become a threat to world peace & stability soon or later. The intensive involvement and mass support of the US in this conflict suggests the pre-emptive Russian attack on Ukraine has somehow affected and interrupted NATO's hidden agendas in the region. What we are witnessing in Madrid it is a collective attempt by European countries to follow the American warmongering strategy for maintaining the unipolar world order system. So disappointed with Sweden & Finland decided to take part in a bloody puppet show led by uncle Sam.
Many don’t realize Sweden’s “neutrality” has been gone for many years. The US and Sweden signed a security pact which stated the US would come to Sweden’s aid if any attempt at aggression was made. I believe late 60’s. I agree regarding NATO…when the US stated in 2008 Ukraine would eventually join NATO, along with training and having Ukraine participate in provocative maneuvers in the Black Sea( operation “Trident”), Russia was protecting itself. NATO is a big problem.
@@Shifty_ Man try not to be shifty. Unipolar concept in geo_ political content means domination of a single world order which many countries can be influenced to pursue the idea.
NATO is finished after cut and run in Afghan where Talibans had only AK-47, RPG and motorcycles. The problem is "No Action Talk Only (NATO)". Zero fighting spirits. No a single US or NATO troops in Ukraine. Keep talking
Inna is wrong. Putin was never against Ukraine to join the EU. He always said that there is nothing good to be there (EU). But he never said he is against it. He was against NATO.
Using far-right extremists as analysts like this dude from the Hudson Institute, leads to Dem-bashing with the slightest excuse, and regardless of the actual facts that the moderate tries to impose on that analyst...The far-right corporate interests in the USA have financed a number of fact-free "institutes" (the Cato is another well-known example). If France 24 wants to avoid analyses that are even to the right of Marine LePen's, they need to be smarter about their choices of guest analysts!
Finland and Sweden don't have oil and gas to sell to Europe. Ukraine does. That's the difference as far as Putin is concerned. If either of those nations discovered oil or gas resources and started developing them, then they would have a problem with Russia.
Strength is in numbers , the fact that Finland and Sweden are large and advanced countries but low population is an advantage for NATO in northern flanks where could be oil exploration in the arctic ocean in the future.
Russians humiliate themselves tbh. It must be hard that no one wants to stay their friend unless they threaten to kill them. They should just build an economy. You catch more flies with honey.
Michael Pregent ,You know nothing about KURDS. We Kurds are living together for thousand years with TURKS. And in a general case we are TURK to. Being KURD is an ethnic world for us not as National identity.. More than 80 % of KURDS suffer from PKK,YPG or Other different terorist organisations supported by foregn countries. You are talking about DAES but you do not know that the TURKS the only force fight against DAES face 2 face ??? More than 4500 DAES fighters has been killed by TURKISH millitary forces. And more than %30 of TURKISH army is KURDS ??? Today its nearly impossible to find any DAES fighter excluding SOME supported CELLS by Greek and IRAN (5 days ago a greek agent has been captirued who works for EYP and please check what he says about DEAS ! You are talking with out know anything about us, I mean the KURDS. I am proud of to be a TURK and I am ready to fight agains PKK or YPG any time any where on earth. They kidnaped my sisters and brother and took them to mountains to treat as terorists. They Cleaned they mind to divide TURKIYE and establish a KURDISH COUNTRY. As our leader ATATURK said " Every body who can say I am TURK is a TURK." No matter he is KURD,AZARI,BOSNAK,GURCU,TATAR,MANAV,CERKEZ ,LAZ or GOCMEN.. We are friends ,we are together and we are strong . No matter what our ethnic roots are. We all TURKS..
So one panelists express a very opinionated rhetoric and everyone else just echo the same thing, just verbalized differently...5 people with the same takes is an overkill, 4 of them looking at the Ukrainian lady after every statement for validation was cringy
Why is there always one Ukrainian person talking? Aren't there more Ukrainians. Just would he good to hear someone else talk about it. This lady is repeating the same thing over and over.
There's no way Russia's domestic communication for public consumption is that they "couldn't withstand Ukrainian attacks." The "goodwill" angle is the one they'll use for their people. She either has it backward or imply misspoke.
The S400 can defeat the countermeasures on the F16--and this is what the Russians would have learned when Turkey bought the S400s? It seems like it does this already...
The resignation of the Russian president, as well as appearing in the ICC and the release of opposition figures, would be examples of true goodwill gestures if anything.
A friend to all is a friend to none. If Turkey doesn't condemn Russia, Finland and Sweden should enter NATO. Better x2 new member states than x1 uncertain or non aligned, even considering Turkey's geographical importance.
European leaders are also "friends of convenience " to Turkey. So is America, be naive to think any of them really true friends. The US just recently back stab France, using the UK to make a deal with Australia. They know it, they know we we know it, yet don't give a damn! Quintessential!
NATO has secured its eastern border Russia will never be in a position to threaten Eastern Europe ever again Furthermore, nato will continue to support Ukraine until Ukraine is completely and FOREVER FREE 🇺🇦 God bless Ukraine and democracy
Too much talk of war. This doesn't suit ordinary people. We want peace. Why are they fighting anyway? All there is is destruction and death. A Peace Agreement would be best for ordinary people. The big guys are playing with people's lives. They are not fighting. They do not have their properties smashed. I don't understand their cruelty.
It is time to call Poothing's nuke bluff and ramp up more direct military involvement in Ukraine. Give air-cover for Ukraine to protect humanitarian corridors and cities, then follow with complete air-support. Provide naval protection for grain shipments, then provide protection for Odessa. Provide 'advisors' with the advanced weapons systems to facilitate immediate use as well as training. Allow Poland's military to guard Ukraine's border with Belarus. It is important that Ukraine pushes Russia completely our because China is watching.
LOL so many selfies but trickling news show Poland will use wood for the next winter season. Austria is already alarming will have no gas reserve for the winter season. Let’s see if you would be babbling weapon supply to Ukraine or wood log crisis for the heating.
Snakes Island is militarily irrelevant can only serve as listening post . Inexplicable why Russians needed to hold it at all. Indian Military Veterans.
I love watchin this man report. He is the most professional anchor I've ever seen. Thanks FRANCE 24 and the team -- I honestly really appreciate your work.
NATO article 5. That mean niw American Warmongers getting 2 more attack dogs if American Warmonger going to ivade attack a defenseless country fin and swed will be charging in front.
Third World Ukrainian grain customers should ask Turkey to use its navy to secure grain ships out of Odessa. Turkey has shot down Russian planes without drastic consequences. Russia does not want to lose favor with Turkey nor set off a conflict with NATO because it attacked Turkish naval vessels. Let Turkey say no.
It's only that matter in time what is going to be the next strategy that Russia is going to be attacking or the Ukrainian that it could be a booby trap trap setup or even data how to say this what's your always to have a spice that are inside Ukrainian hey I need you need to know this everyone because the Soviet Union is still continue and I wanted to say this everyone that very careful from Russia anyway because I know that that you're not going to travel in Russia and please do not travel because the war is still continue on and the Bloodshed still continue on and everyone need to know
You can only poke the bear 🐻 so much till.it fights back Be careful that they ain't laying a trap Just because they have retreated from a small island that they can drop one bomb and the island has gone along with the Ukraine troops and its weapons
so if NATO has rediscovered its purpose how many years has it been operating without a purpose..?
It’s almost impossible for either nation to defend militarily such a small island like Snake Island.
Its not that important when you Crimea
NATO's existence as a military alliance of the US in Europe would always look at opportunities to drag countries into war. Regardless of the Russian invasion of Ukraine NATO would become a threat to world peace & stability soon or later. The intensive involvement and mass support of the US in this conflict suggests the pre-emptive Russian attack on Ukraine has somehow affected and interrupted NATO's hidden agendas in the region. What we are witnessing in Madrid it is a collective attempt by European countries to follow the American warmongering strategy for maintaining the unipolar world order system. So disappointed with Sweden & Finland decided to take part in a bloody puppet show led by uncle Sam.
Many don’t realize Sweden’s “neutrality” has been gone for many years. The US and Sweden signed a security pact which stated the US would come to Sweden’s aid if any attempt at aggression was made. I believe late 60’s.
I agree regarding NATO…when the US stated in 2008 Ukraine would eventually join NATO, along with training and having Ukraine participate in provocative maneuvers in the Black Sea( operation “Trident”), Russia was protecting itself. NATO is a big problem.
How can many countries collude to create a unipolar system. That's contradictory man.
@@Shifty_ Man try not to be shifty. Unipolar concept in geo_ political content means domination of a single world order which many countries can be influenced to pursue the idea.
more action and less talk would be a real game changer😂😂😂😂
Let's be honest, there is not much of the Ukrainian army left which can be said to have had NATO training.
us
Can someone please explain what are NATO's VALUES? Need to know how China acted against those values. Thanks
West on top?
china claiming the whole s china sea ,which as Germany's Olaf Scholz said terrorial expansion and invasions are things of the past ,or should be
NATO's values are whatever the US says they are.
Unfortunately symbolic victories only win symbolic wars.
nuke ukraine call it game over...
They all agreed, what a wonderful “debate”.
this is propogandabateeeeeeee
NATO is finished after cut and run in Afghan where Talibans had only AK-47, RPG and motorcycles.
The problem is "No Action Talk Only (NATO)". Zero fighting spirits. No a single US or NATO troops in Ukraine. Keep talking
This debacle can be lain only on Biden's shoulders.
Inna is wrong. Putin was never against Ukraine to join the EU. He always said that there is nothing good to be there (EU). But he never said he is against it. He was against NATO.
Using far-right extremists as analysts like this dude from the Hudson Institute, leads to Dem-bashing with the slightest excuse, and regardless of the actual facts that the moderate tries to impose on that analyst...The far-right corporate interests in the USA have financed a number of fact-free "institutes" (the Cato is another well-known example).
If France 24 wants to avoid analyses that are even to the right of Marine LePen's, they need to be smarter about their choices of guest analysts!
Agreed, that guy is a partisan hack.
Yeah that guy was deff not functioning in reality, not sure how they found him
Michael Pregent is a politician, not a researcher.
There are some who only understand and respect strength and power.
on the other hand, if Belarus joins the Russian Federation, then that would very handily expand NATO's border with the Russian Federation.
Finland and Sweden don't have oil and gas to sell to Europe. Ukraine does. That's the difference as far as Putin is concerned. If either of those nations discovered oil or gas resources and started developing them, then they would have a problem with Russia.
Nobody listen to Michael Pregent.
Strength is in numbers , the fact that Finland and Sweden are large and advanced countries but low population is an advantage for NATO in northern flanks where could be oil exploration in the arctic ocean in the future.
If China and Russia joins up
Why are u guys so happy to go to world war 3 ????
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Kudos for anchor Picard 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 His ability to keep the momentum of the narrative is superb !!! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Who would insure a ship in the Black Sea going to Ukraine?
What happened to The Debate? It was one of my favourite segments on the internet, and there's been nothing for 5 weeks...
Remember:
Every single word out of his mouth is a lie
Please, send all your arsenals and money there to waste😅😅😅😅😅Just leave a little bit for Taiwan, Lithuania and Estonia🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Still much richer than russia.
@@pierrechang55 are you
Get more heavy weapons into the front NOW
Just hastening the demise of humanity faster is what it appears to be
And who is to blame in this case for this ? RF is doing what it does best, inflating it's ego.
They humiliated Russia for too long, this is the result.
Russians humiliate themselves tbh. It must be hard that no one wants to stay their friend unless they threaten to kill them. They should just build an economy. You catch more flies with honey.
Michael Pregent ,You know nothing about KURDS. We Kurds are living together for thousand years with TURKS. And in a general case we are TURK to. Being KURD is an ethnic world for us not as National identity.. More than 80 % of KURDS suffer from PKK,YPG or Other different terorist organisations supported by foregn countries. You are talking about DAES but you do not know that the TURKS the only
force fight against DAES face 2 face ??? More than 4500 DAES fighters has been killed by TURKISH millitary forces. And more than %30 of TURKISH army is KURDS ??? Today its nearly impossible to find any DAES fighter excluding SOME supported CELLS by Greek and IRAN (5 days ago a greek agent has been captirued who works for EYP and please check what he says about DEAS !
You are talking with out know anything about us, I mean the KURDS. I am proud of to be a TURK and I am ready to fight agains PKK or YPG any time any where on earth. They kidnaped my sisters and brother and took them to mountains to treat as terorists. They Cleaned they mind to divide TURKIYE and establish a KURDISH COUNTRY. As our leader ATATURK said " Every body who can say I am TURK is a TURK." No matter he is KURD,AZARI,BOSNAK,GURCU,TATAR,MANAV,CERKEZ ,LAZ or GOCMEN.. We are friends ,we are together and we are strong . No matter what our ethnic roots are. We all TURKS..
There is plenty of troop committments towards Nato, but none towards the Ukraine. Send the troops where they are needed, not money and weapons.
Prayers.
The West leaders must move faster in helping Ukraine!😡😡
They're extremely doing most of their ability. 7 packages of sanction and for times of weapons sending but like water drops to the sand.
Why can't the Europeans do more, all I hear is America, America.
30 kitchen leader are scared of 1 man 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for good program
Turkey is an interesting mediator, having supplied the ATGM-equipped drones which helped stop the attack on Kiev.
Rub your tanks together in winter they will keep you warm and your Industry running.
To answer the title of this video. Can an elephant jump rope?
So one panelists express a very opinionated rhetoric and everyone else just echo the same thing, just verbalized differently...5 people with the same takes is an overkill, 4 of them looking at the Ukrainian lady after every statement for validation was cringy
My bet is on putin.
Yes the French would have given up Ukraine When the Russians took Crimea we all know about the French.
Why is there always one Ukrainian person talking? Aren't there more Ukrainians. Just would he good to hear someone else talk about it. This lady is repeating the same thing over and over.
i wonder if Putin gets gas at 3am.
Prepare yourself for WW3
There's no way Russia's domestic communication for public consumption is that they "couldn't withstand Ukrainian attacks." The "goodwill" angle is the one they'll use for their people. She either has it backward or imply misspoke.
The S400 can defeat the countermeasures on the F16--and this is what the Russians would have learned when Turkey bought the S400s? It seems like it does this already...
Of course the soldiers on Snake Island did surrender, because refusing surrender does not turn out well in the long run for either side.
The resignation of the Russian president, as well as appearing in the ICC and the release of opposition figures, would be examples of true goodwill gestures if anything.
Lol
A friend to all is a friend to none. If Turkey doesn't condemn Russia, Finland and Sweden should enter NATO. Better x2 new member states than x1 uncertain or non aligned, even considering Turkey's geographical importance.
European leaders are also "friends of convenience " to Turkey. So is America, be naive to think any of them really true friends. The US just recently back stab France, using the UK to make a deal with Australia. They know it, they know we we know it, yet don't give a damn! Quintessential!
A revitalised NATO independent from corporate wealth and influence would help
for NATO read USA
@@briancarno8837 US would do whatever they want NATO is only there to protect against Russia
Fake news
Ante Up But Not All In
NATO has secured its eastern border
Russia will never be in a position to threaten Eastern Europe ever again
Furthermore, nato will continue to support Ukraine until Ukraine is completely and FOREVER FREE 🇺🇦
God bless Ukraine and democracy
Ukraine is a lost cause, forget it!!! Nato will end up taking care of a failed broken state or will probably just abandon it...
till tye last Ukrainians...
we bettet send all those refugee back to ukraind summer camps azov camp 2.0 .... they running out of na zisl./.
Eastern Europe has been a victim of western colonization just like the rest of the world
@@rediettadesse2828 examples or citations please
As an American. I will say. Biden is a week link. Also I'm glad NATO is coming to the rescue of the Ukraine.
Nope
This woman is a character. I would not listen to this lady at all. Ask somebody else
Too much talk of war. This doesn't suit ordinary people. We want peace. Why are they fighting anyway? All there is is destruction and death. A Peace Agreement would be best for ordinary people. The big guys are playing with people's lives. They are not fighting. They do not have their properties smashed. I don't understand their cruelty.
Are you brain dead? They got invaded. That's what happened. It's not that complicated.
you still not understand ukrania are losing the war and conecting to black sea
It is time to call Poothing's nuke bluff and ramp up more direct military involvement in Ukraine. Give air-cover for Ukraine to protect humanitarian corridors and cities, then follow with complete air-support. Provide naval protection for grain shipments, then provide protection for Odessa. Provide 'advisors' with the advanced weapons systems to facilitate immediate use as well as training. Allow Poland's military to guard Ukraine's border with Belarus.
It is important that Ukraine pushes Russia completely our because China is watching.
Victory to Ukraine 🇺🇦
LOL so many selfies but trickling news show Poland will use wood for the next winter season. Austria is already alarming will have no gas reserve for the winter season. Let’s see if you would be babbling weapon supply to Ukraine or wood log crisis for the heating.
no he gets somebody else to pass his gas for him. a burp here, a fart there.
Picking sides. Concerned yet?
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She is a hateful creature. I guess some upbringing problems.
western thinktank is a joke...
Snakes Island is militarily irrelevant can only serve as listening post . Inexplicable why Russians needed to hold it at all. Indian Military Veterans.
Thank's, Putin! Bet you didn't see this one coming 😜
Dude why do you only have deluded Harvard type think tanks on. Cringe media.
Glory to Russia.
oink oink, fizz fizz
I love watchin this man report. He is the most professional anchor I've ever seen. Thanks FRANCE 24 and the team -- I honestly really appreciate your work.
Embarrasses our so-called News outlets CNN, Fox, MSNBC who report only USA politics, and poorly at that.
NATO article 5. That mean niw American Warmongers getting 2 more attack dogs if American Warmonger going to ivade attack a defenseless country fin and swed will be charging in front.
can't wait until japan and south korea join and we can call it nato-jk.
so much west propaganda
u s could wipes out Russia an over night!!!
Third World Ukrainian grain customers should ask Turkey to use its navy to secure grain ships out of Odessa. Turkey has shot down Russian planes without drastic consequences. Russia does not want to lose favor with Turkey nor set off a conflict with NATO because it attacked Turkish naval vessels. Let Turkey say no.
i think turkey know what is wrong n right compare to western training nazis.....;
It's only that matter in time what is going to be the next strategy that Russia is going to be attacking or the Ukrainian that it could be a booby trap trap setup or even data how to say this what's your always to have a spice that are inside Ukrainian hey I need you need to know this everyone because the Soviet Union is still continue and I wanted to say this everyone that very careful from Russia anyway because I know that that you're not going to travel in Russia and please do not travel because the war is still continue on and the Bloodshed still continue on and everyone need to know
This has to happen in line with God's end time plan.
You can only poke the bear 🐻 so much till.it fights back
Be careful that they ain't laying a trap
Just because they have retreated from a small island that they can drop one bomb and the island has gone along with the Ukraine troops and its weapons
…and that is what Bear Spray or a large caliber rifle are for.
Rabid bears don't need provocation. Put that diseased bear down.
Ukraine is going too end up on Snake Island. lol
trueeeee and a nuke test is perfect...
Even Switzerland is joining NATO wow great job
Putin thinks his slick but his not