The hidden link between Prime Numbers and Euler's Number

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2020
  • We will discuss how miraculously Euler's Number appears when asking how many factors a number has on average, which is closely related to the distribution of prime numbers. I still remember how amazed I was, when I first learned about this fact, so I had to share it with the world.
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  • @drippyeuler
    @drippyeuler Рік тому +82

    Another way to arrive at the same answer is to think that on average, n/1=n numbers are divisible by 1, n/2 are divisible by 2, n/3 by 3 etc. So the average number of divisors is (n+n/2+n/3+ ... + n/(n-1) + n/n)/n = 1+1/2+1/3+...+1/(n-1)+1/n which is the sum of the harmonic series up to n. With the same trick of the area under a hyperbole, it turns out this sum approaches ln(n) for large n.

    • @debblez
      @debblez Рік тому +3

      thats exactly what we did in the video

    • @xnick_uy
      @xnick_uy Рік тому +15

      @@debblez Maybe you watched another video? Read the comment again and compare with the video: not the same!

  • @yarno8086
    @yarno8086 Рік тому +261

    Great video, the sound should be a little louder as the volume of this video is low compared to other videos :)

    • @TemporalOnline
      @TemporalOnline Рік тому +11

      Agree wholeheartedly

    • @deananderson7714
      @deananderson7714 Рік тому +6

      Indeed

    • @comic4relief
      @comic4relief Рік тому +4

      It is a bit muddled. This does not help to hear through the accent.

    • @user-pr6ed3ri2k
      @user-pr6ed3ri2k Рік тому

      112ndtlkr

    • @TheHarmonicOscillator
      @TheHarmonicOscillator Рік тому +11

      Excellent content, but the background music makes it hard to follow, which is annoying. Not sure why so many UA-camrs feel the need for background music when doing voiceovers. You should edit it out and repost without losing views. There is of course a YT video for that.

  • @JM-us3fr
    @JM-us3fr Рік тому +109

    Awesome video. A better average is log(x)+2c-1, where c is the Euler-Masceroni constant. You get this if you only integrate your curve up to sqrt(x), account for the symmetry of the curve, and use a better estimate for the harmonic sum. It gives you a much smaller error.

    • @jmiki89
      @jmiki89 Рік тому +22

      Thanks. When I saw the graph, my thought was immediately that it must be a contant to improve that estimation but I didn't know its value.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk Рік тому +2

      When you write log with no indication as to the base then the base is conventionally assumed to be 10. If the base is e then it is conventional to write ln. That has been conventional since before I was born, (I am a grandfather). Example I had an instructor who had a PhD in physics who followed that convention. It is also more efficient to follow that convention when writing.

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr Рік тому +7

      @@dannygjk It depends on the field. For example, in computer science with big O notation, it’s convention to leave off the base with an understanding that it can be taken to be base 2. I imagine in most science classes or research they might make the distinction more clear, but they tend to use log to refer to base 10. However, in number theory (as this approximation is widely used in number theory) it’s common for log to mean ln, since that’s the most common logarithm we talk about.
      When there are multiple conflicting bases, then we write the base or use ln. It’s all about clarity 😄

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk Рік тому +1

      @@JM-us3fr I studied comp sci it could be any base if you only write log. Only in specific circumstances can you safely assume it's base 2. Comp sci is universal as far as bases is concerned just like math. In comp sci I typically used base 2, 10, and 16 ocassionally I used base e or 8. Even base 256 can be useful depending on what you are doing.

    • @JM-us3fr
      @JM-us3fr Рік тому +2

      @@dannygjk Oh I'm sure you're right, I'm just giving my experience with notation when I learned computer science. It was an algorithms class, so because of the big O, the base of the logarithm often didn't matter. Either way, if you ever see Terence Tao right his natural logs, it's always log, and this is common in number theory.

  • @josephyoung6749
    @josephyoung6749 Рік тому +30

    Even though the error reduces gradually, it always looks like the averages are a constant distance from the logarithm curve, no matter how big the number. I noticed a comment below added, "A better average is log(x)+2c-1, where c is the Euler-Masceroni constant"

  • @merrickdodge9760
    @merrickdodge9760 Рік тому +16

    I’ve been hunting for an intuitive explanation for why e shows up in the distribution of primes. Your video has at long last given me what I’ve been searching for. Thank you!

  • @killymxi
    @killymxi Рік тому +17

    Discarding one part of area and taking the other felt rather hand-wavy. Together with slowly converging numbers at the end it leaves to think there might be more accurate approximation.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Рік тому +10

      I agree. That was bad maths. At least, they should have indicated that a rigorous proof does exist, but that it is outside the scope of this video to discuss it (though, it logically makes no sense for it to be outside the scope of the video, since it is literally the crux of the entire video).

  • @qulaeygaming5202
    @qulaeygaming5202 Рік тому +65

    Wow. I've never thought about the exp function like this before. They should teach this explanation in schools so people can actually understand what the exp and ln functions are.

    • @12-343
      @12-343 Рік тому +11

      You were never taught that e^x is the solution to the differential equation y = y' ? Even though that's the whole point of the function?

    • @KirbyZhang
      @KirbyZhang Рік тому +3

      @@12-343 maybe it was introduced in such a way that you had no idea why that would be important or interesting, at the time it was introduced, lol.
      once you had enough knowledge it know it was important and interesting, the nature of e has been forgotten.

    • @readjordan2257
      @readjordan2257 14 днів тому

      ​@@12-343in middle and high school the goal is merely spreading the awareness that e and pi exist. Most people dont respect math and respect less numbers that arent intuitive or can be obviously and directly used on the farm, or in daily conversation. In this climate, spreading awareness of e is the main goal, and showing some of its magic. The most in-depth the typical high school experience gets is in banking and continuous interest. Seriously. Which makes sense, given most people wont respect math, science, or anything outside of local cultural norms unless they themselves are gonna use it. the question of maximizing compound investment to its limit spawns a natural placement for e. Basically, theyre trying to introduce it to where the characters in the . movie of mathematics arent speaking in the language of exposition. That instead its closer to how the original thinkers came up with this stuff, step by step, and often thinking about real world applications. (Yes not always, but it was rather necessary for comfortable income.) Anyway. Literally nothing about calculus, limits, derivatives were taught in the high school setting until at least 2015 or so, started with AP and (sometimes) gifted programs. Then trickled into the typical classroom. Remember teaching is a grand strategy, like a large-scale war. The thinkers at the state level have to reveal the strategy over time like playing chess. Except, its much more hostile. No matter how well you play the game, parents hate tf out of you always and the masses blame you for everything, and in yhe classroom and school level, theres so much breakdown of the vision that its all rent like a bunker after being hit by a bunker buster FAB. I mean, in 2009-2012, we literally had EVERY SINGLE Georgia performance standard in mathematics itemized down to every objective of every lesson and every angle of each objective on posters on the walls. For every year at the same time. They were THE opening of each lesson and chapter. The literal clear and simple performance standard and clarification of the objective in every possible corner more than ads in a news outlet webpage today, and there was still total chaos in implementation. In my school, the dude who wrote the state curriculum visited my gifted class and after 90 minutes said he himself had no idea what the teacher was teaching. And hes a master mathematician.
      So to answer your question. No, and really, why would you expect anyone to know that unless they are a math enthusiast? They may know continuous interest, and thats it.

  • @stanleydodds9
    @stanleydodds9 Рік тому +13

    You can get a better bound on the error than assymptotic correctness by using the Euler-Mascheroni constant; the limiting difference between the harmonic sum and the natural logarithm (and it's not too hard to show that this limit exists).

  • @j.vonhogen9650
    @j.vonhogen9650 Рік тому +4

    This is an excellent video. Please, make many more of these!
    Thanks a lot!

  • @joseville
    @joseville Рік тому +31

    7:30 and 7:40 I know it's beyond the scope, but would be cool to see a proof of how this error goes to 0.

    • @azfarahsan
      @azfarahsan Рік тому +2

      i second this

    • @jcsjcs2
      @jcsjcs2 Рік тому +5

      From the graph on the screen it certainly didn't appear to go anywhere near zero. Seemed to be off by a constant. Of course if you look at the relative error, a constant divided by a larger and larger number goes to zero, while you still have a constant absolute error.

    • @TheGuyCalledX
      @TheGuyCalledX Рік тому +6

      The error doesn't approach zero, only the percent error

    • @ferudunatakan
      @ferudunatakan 3 місяці тому

      Error goes to γ (Gamma). It's the percent error that goes to zero. Percent error is:
      100*(Real value-Approximation)/Approximation
      Our approximation in ln(x), so we can rewrite this as:
      100*(Real value-ln(x))/ln(x)
      Since ln(x) approaches infinity as x goes to infinity, 100*(Real value-ln(x))/ln(x) goes to 0.

    • @ferudunatakan
      @ferudunatakan 3 місяці тому +1

      @@azfarahsan"i second this" what? Say it correctly. Not surprised to see only 2 likes.

  • @omerelhagahmed551
    @omerelhagahmed551 Рік тому

    Appreciation to you. This should be one of the most suggested videos

  • @igrant
    @igrant Рік тому +6

    How does this only have 3000 views? This is extremely well done and underrated

    • @NostraDavid2
      @NostraDavid2 10 місяців тому +2

      Is 100k views enough? Looks like the algorithm picked it up after your comment!

    • @igrant
      @igrant 10 місяців тому +1

      Ayo that’s awesome congrats lol, glad to see this got more attention

  • @FishSticker
    @FishSticker Рік тому +6

    There is another graph with the property of all derivatives and integrals being the same, it’s Y=Sin(x)^2 + Cos(x)^2 - 1

  • @EPMTUNES
    @EPMTUNES Рік тому

    Great video. I have never quite grasped intuition for why the ln function and primes are linked. The lattice points and the n/x function made it simple to understand! Thank you.

  • @beaumatthews6411
    @beaumatthews6411 26 днів тому

    I LOVE YOUR LOGO, I LITERALLY DREW THIS WHILE I was working at Mathnasium! 1/6 + 1/3 + 1/2 = 1!!!

  • @rotemperi-glass4825
    @rotemperi-glass4825 11 місяців тому

    amazing. you choose the best topics, and explain them beautifully.

  • @elephantdinosaur2284
    @elephantdinosaur2284 Рік тому +1

    Nice intro video that uses only basic highschool calc to derive the main term in the asymptotic expansion in an accessible and visual way. The content was engaging and got me into looking for more details about the finer points on the next order terms. Keep up the great work :)

  • @antoniorose2461
    @antoniorose2461 Рік тому

    Just ran into this video. Amazed by the thought! Thanks!

  • @AFastidiousCuber
    @AFastidiousCuber 3 роки тому +6

    Gorgeous video. Bravo!

  • @VIL4IN
    @VIL4IN Рік тому

    This is so beautiful, thank you so much for this.

  • @kodirovsshik
    @kodirovsshik Рік тому

    Said thing this video was recommended to me only now
    Great video, very informative
    Hope to see some more from you in future

  • @PeterParker-gt3xl
    @PeterParker-gt3xl Рік тому +1

    This reminds me of what Prof. Dunham wrote about in "Euler the Master of Us All", the relationship between ln and harmonic series, he worked on sum of 1/k, Mascheroni did introduce the symbol gamma, though he allegedly miscalculated it, then came the famous sum of 1/k^2, where the Bernoulli were stumped. Love the beautiful graphics, very educational.

  • @Papajagameing004
    @Papajagameing004 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Thank you
    The video was uploaded a year ago, I hope that you’ll eventually upload more of them! I’ll be definitely waiting

  • @AkamiChannel
    @AkamiChannel 8 місяців тому

    Incredible! Bravo!

  • @Astromath
    @Astromath Рік тому

    What?! I thought you must have like 100k subscribers before I saw you only had 2 videos. Please post videos more regularly, they are really good!

  • @smiley_1000
    @smiley_1000 Рік тому +1

    Wow, connecting the sum of divisors to the integral of the reciprocal is very intuitive but I never thought about it that way.

  • @Vito-jr9wl
    @Vito-jr9wl 3 роки тому +2

    Great Video and pleasant voice and background music!

  • @juanroldan529
    @juanroldan529 Рік тому

    What a nice video, I hope you can make more in the future, it's a shame it didnt take off when you published it.

  • @123man123man1
    @123man123man1 2 роки тому

    Superb explaination!

  • @WhattheHectogon
    @WhattheHectogon Рік тому

    Excellently done, subscribing for sure!

  • @Adityarm.08
    @Adityarm.08 11 місяців тому

    Amazing content. Thank you.

  • @makethisgowhoosh
    @makethisgowhoosh Рік тому +3

    So this mentions primes at the beginning, but goes on to only talk about counting divisors. What did I miss?

  • @Life_42
    @Life_42 Рік тому

    Beautiful!

  • @anirudhbadri2535
    @anirudhbadri2535 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, keep it up !!

  • @debblez
    @debblez Рік тому +2

    the constant difference between ln(x) and the graph appears to approach -0.1544313298...
    or 1+2𝛾 where 𝛾=-0.5772156649... is the Euler-Mascheroni Constant

  • @suvrotica
    @suvrotica 2 роки тому

    This was awesome 👌

  • @JonathanMandrake
    @JonathanMandrake Рік тому +3

    My first idea after seeing the curve was that it looked like the natural logarithm. Funny how intuition can guide us to the solution

  • @ThanassisTsiodras
    @ThanassisTsiodras Рік тому

    Beautiful.

  • @gustavocortico1681
    @gustavocortico1681 Рік тому +4

    6:36 so you could define primes as integers "a" such that the function a/x only intersects with the integer lattice at a,1 and 1,a?

  • @linoarenz548
    @linoarenz548 Рік тому +2

    The picture also shows that when you want to check if n is a prime you just have to check divisors up to n^(1/2)
    Cool :)

  • @outsync4399
    @outsync4399 Рік тому +1

    Really impressive visualizations! And clearly explained as well, love it!

    • @chriswebster24
      @chriswebster24 9 місяців тому

      I had to turn on the captions to understand what he was saying, because of his strange accent. I think he might be a foreigner or something, unfortunately, but the video was pretty decent, though, other than that. I just hope he’s legal, at least, since I supported his content, by watching the video

  • @davidstokar887
    @davidstokar887 Рік тому

    Terrific video

  • @Icenri
    @Icenri Рік тому

    More videos! Please! ❤️

  • @griffinwright4071
    @griffinwright4071 Рік тому

    Great vid!

  • @TheZenytram
    @TheZenytram Рік тому

    i finaly learned wft the slope number means, thankyou

  • @dlbattle100
    @dlbattle100 Рік тому +2

    Music too distracting.

  • @Vannishn
    @Vannishn Рік тому +4

    Good video ! But don’t we have some multiple of the Euler mascenori constant as the limit of the difference ? 7:50

    • @Papajagameing004
      @Papajagameing004 Рік тому +2

      We do, that’s why there’s ~ sign. He used percentage error - as ln(n) grows to infinity, the percentage error indeed tends to 0

    • @gradozero8140
      @gradozero8140 8 місяців тому

      I think the percentage goes to 0 but the average tends exactly to H(n) (nth harmonic number)

  • @Marcus-jf4hu
    @Marcus-jf4hu Рік тому

    Really great video! I like the background music, though the overall volume of the video is a bit low

  • @disasterarea9341
    @disasterarea9341 Рік тому

    this was lovely. is it related to hardy-littlewood?

  • @alaechoulli6111
    @alaechoulli6111 Рік тому +1

    Post more! Great one though ❤

  • @mz1rek
    @mz1rek Рік тому

    Congratulations, well done. The explanation is amazingly simple. I'll critic one thing (not very important;): the sound volume is low.

  • @debdeepmajumder9136
    @debdeepmajumder9136 Рік тому

    Superb.

  • @peterolbrisch8970
    @peterolbrisch8970 Рік тому +1

    I knew it. It's, like an onion, the deeper you peel it, the more it stinks.

  • @romanski5811
    @romanski5811 Рік тому +2

    Why does the percent error go to zero? How do you know that?

  • @FrKevinPJCoffey
    @FrKevinPJCoffey 10 місяців тому

    Please either change the title for this video or explain much more clearly the connection between Euler's number and prime numbers. I watched this twice, and enjoyed it, but I don't see what your title promised.

  • @briankleinschmidt3664
    @briankleinschmidt3664 Рік тому +2

    I keep forgetting it's "Oiler", not "Youler".

  • @Darkstar2342
    @Darkstar2342 Рік тому +1

    8:00 why exactly does the error not matter in this case? I feel that this is not immediately obvious and needs to be proven

  • @asmithgames5926
    @asmithgames5926 11 місяців тому

    Amazing video! Why is the average number of divisors equal to the number of primes?

  • @vivada2667
    @vivada2667 Рік тому +4

    7:39 I don't really understand this step. How do you know the first column ends up filling in the cracks of the area under the curve?

    • @zildijannorbs5889
      @zildijannorbs5889 Рік тому +2

      The integral would diverge without removing that column. That hyperbola goes up forever when approaching zero, as you take reciprocals of tiny numbers. It had to be done to avoid that inconvenience. And with filling up the spaces - the integral itself includes those, that’s how it works, but I think the area of those extra bits become insignificant compared to the squares as n increases.

    • @ipudisciple
      @ipudisciple Рік тому +1

      It doesn’t fill in the cracks, or if it does that’s irrelevant. Both the first column and the cracks have an area which as a of the % of the total area tends to 0.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Рік тому

      @@zildijannorbs5889 That's not how that works. First of all, there is nothing that even justifies taking the integral here.

    • @zildijannorbs5889
      @zildijannorbs5889 Рік тому +1

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 but there's clearly an integral in the video, right? I thought what I said makes sense.

  • @bozydarziemniak1853
    @bozydarziemniak1853 6 місяців тому

    Function for prime number check if natural number N is prime number is:
    Π [j=2 to j=(N-1)] sin(π*N/j)=a
    a=0 for not prime
    a≠0 for a prime
    if you know isin(x)+cos(x)=e^(ix) so that means that sin(x)=-i*(e^(ix)-cos(x))
    so here you have link between euler number and prime numbers.

  • @pogenonexist
    @pogenonexist 8 місяців тому

    Great and interesting video. But why the area of left side equals the upper side area? Didn’t get explained l.😂

  • @opheliaslastsurf
    @opheliaslastsurf 6 місяців тому

    Can someone explain (or suggest a reference to read) regarding the relationship between average number of factors and the primes?

  • @MrRyanroberson1
    @MrRyanroberson1 Рік тому

    one question to ask: what is the difference between the number of factors and the approximation? i'm thinking this difference itself doesn't tend to 0, but tends to some other function

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Рік тому

      See several other comments - you can describe this difference by using the Euler Mascheroni constant.

  • @alterherrentspannt
    @alterherrentspannt Рік тому +1

    The audio is so low that I had to put the headphones on, then the music didn't help because it would cover up your words. I want to watch, but it is hard to understand the audio.

  • @toniokettner4821
    @toniokettner4821 Рік тому

    i also like the clash of clans music in the background

  • @dashmirmejdi38fu3ue8
    @dashmirmejdi38fu3ue8 Рік тому

    If a(x) was the sum of averages of divisors. Then a(x) / x where x is total numbers is equal to ln(x) does it mean that this function a(x) equals to ln(x)*x

  • @damnstupidoldidiot8776
    @damnstupidoldidiot8776 Рік тому

    This felt like a light theme 3blue1brown video.

  • @john-ic5pz
    @john-ic5pz 10 місяців тому

    9:33 how cool. i never thought of inverse functions as swapping the axes.
    (9:33 lol perfect-square timestamp)

  • @willemesterhuyse2547
    @willemesterhuyse2547 Рік тому

    Slope of ln (n) as n tends to infinity is zero. Doesn't this imply ln (n) is bounded above?

  • @konstantinrebrov675
    @konstantinrebrov675 Рік тому

    Ah Hexagon, the most perfect shape in the universe.

  • @aby_aby_aby_aby
    @aby_aby_aby_aby Рік тому

    The slope of constant zero function is also always equal to its value, namely, zero. So it is false that exp is the only function with this property.

  • @Ardalambdion
    @Ardalambdion Рік тому

    Can someone fix the audio in this video? Can barely hear a thing with max on.

  • @dieterbaecher2975
    @dieterbaecher2975 3 місяці тому

    I missed the link to prime numbers. Maybe because its hidden?

  • @nycoshouse
    @nycoshouse Рік тому

    3:26 p[n]%floor(sqrt(n)) has the same kind of silhouette

  • @parth_06
    @parth_06 6 місяців тому

    nice 😊

  • @antoniomamone4674
    @antoniomamone4674 10 місяців тому +1

    i don't unsterstood the link with prime number

  • @miro.s
    @miro.s Рік тому

    I would propose to reupload the video with much louder sound and delete this one. Anyway, the explanation is very clear and interesting.

  • @comic4relief
    @comic4relief Рік тому

    Very Interesting. However, it seems that by 1:20 you leave prime numbers behind. I am not seeing the "link".

  • @ulamss5
    @ulamss5 Рік тому +2

    wait... how did this link back to prime numbers?

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 Рік тому +1

      Actually, it didn't really. Or only in a _very_ vague way... we get the average number of divisors, and the prime numbers are the special case with precisely two divisors.

  • @VynceMontgomery
    @VynceMontgomery Рік тому

    tahnks for the video. Your audio is mixed way too quiet, though.

  • @JynxSp0ck
    @JynxSp0ck Рік тому

    I'm sure what's being said is very interesting. I have to assume since I can't actually hear anything.

  • @joseville
    @joseville Рік тому

    e^x is like the identity element of the derivative operation.
    I just derived* e^x an infinite number of times in 0 seconds.
    *or maybe I should say "derivated"

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 Рік тому +3

      That is not how identity elements work. When we talk about identity elements, we are talking about binary operators, not unary operators. It is more accurate to say that the exponential function is the fixed point of the derivative operator, up to a constant multiple.

  • @johnkent8972
    @johnkent8972 11 місяців тому

    is anyone else having trouble hearing the audio?

  • @masicbemester
    @masicbemester Рік тому

    that's a nice video, but the volume is low even at maximum

  • @YorangeJuice
    @YorangeJuice Рік тому

    woah

  • @aweebthatlovesmath4220
    @aweebthatlovesmath4220 10 місяців тому

    Before playing i guessed it grows like O(ln(n)) 😂 ln is everywhere in analytic number theory...

  • @minimath5882
    @minimath5882 Рік тому

    you should coprimes next!

  • @sdnarain5364
    @sdnarain5364 Рік тому

    Volume please

  • @theskinegg9168
    @theskinegg9168 11 місяців тому +1

    how I would approach is:
    instead of counting the amount of factors a specific number has up to n, count the amount of times a specific number would be a factor of a number up to n, so for two every other number would have it as a factor and you would add n/2, for 3 every third number would have it as a factor etc, then the sum of all the factors up to n would be n/2 + n/3 + n/4… n/n, which will approach n ln n, which over n equals n
    that’s also where the Euler Macheroni constant comes in, from the transition from the harmonic series to the natural logarithm (the difference between the natural logarithm of x and the sum of the harmonic series up to x approaches this fabled Euler Macheroni constant)

  • @christopheremmanuel1615
    @christopheremmanuel1615 Рік тому

    Man e shows up so much

  • @shanemcinally7092
    @shanemcinally7092 Рік тому

    oh god

  • @drottercat
    @drottercat Рік тому

    I can hardly hear anything.

  • @markwrede8878
    @markwrede8878 Рік тому

    Approximating erroneous assumptions.

  • @TomLeg
    @TomLeg Рік тому

    Learn to set the recording volume control, so I don't have to crank my volume up to 110% to hear your whispers.

  • @user-iu3iu1ln8d
    @user-iu3iu1ln8d Рік тому

    Prime number constant......ㅎ

  • @Luizabf
    @Luizabf Рік тому

    Uau

  • @Thomas.P.C
    @Thomas.P.C Рік тому +2

    0:42 "no other number with this feature"
    what about 0? :p /joke
    Great video though :) the connection to y=1/x and lattice points was surprisingly simple and beautiful.

  • @chrisayad0
    @chrisayad0 Рік тому

    redo this plz

  • @user-iu3iu1ln8d
    @user-iu3iu1ln8d Рік тому

  • @diavolacciosatanasso
    @diavolacciosatanasso Рік тому

    Stupid background music almost had me quit. Only stayed because I badly wanted to see where this was going.