I don’t know if you hear this often to the point where it just sounds like I’m saying this just to say it but.. You’re a really good UA-camr, and this guide has definitely helped me become a better sage and I feel a lot more comfortable playing the class, so thank you very much for this 🤗 ! Keep up the good work!
I don't think Ill ever get tired of appreciation, so don't worry about that and I really do appreciate this comment! its uplifting and motivates me to keep on making the content that educates and can be enjoyed :)
I agree. I have watched quite a few videos on Sage and this video is the most helpful. Sage was quite a learning curve. It's nothing like my WHM. Sage is more focusing on incoming damage vs the whm burst heals. It took a bit to learn, but im loving it.
This is the first video that I've seen mention stat gearing and it's been something that I've been looking for as a Sage player. This video is loaded with great tips. Like stacking Crit makes the most sense because if you can crit more. You more damage and have a higher chance of getting better and stronger shields when the crit procs. Great video and for those who want a insight on sage or what not. It's worth the watch.
I know this is kinda old at this point as far as youtube content goes, but this video genuinely helped me get over my healing anxiety and now I have sage at 90 and feel pretty confident in my abilities :3 so thank you so much!
You're welcome! I do intend to update these guides somewhere in the future (most likely 2023) but I am glad they have helped you with healing anxiety :>
Good stuff! As a suggestion, for the next healer video you do, when you go over Esuna, point out that you can Esuna any debuff that has the little white bubble over the top and you *can't* Esuna any debuff without it. I've had healers in the level 89 dungeon tell me that I was the first one to teach them that, so it's definitely the sort of thing I'd want included in a guide like this.
@@AzuriteTV Cool. Also, I forgot to include this in my original comment but you're early statement about how Sage is like a tank in that you're CD focused, actually kind of makes a lot of sense. I feel like it's a good explanation as to why I'm enjoying it as much as I am.
I think I’ve found my main with Sage. I loved leveling WHM to 90, but it felt lacking in damage, and complexity. This brings both of those. I’m enjoying playing around with different rotations that’s will let me totally focus on damage and not have to worry about anyone but the tank. I think that’ll be ossible with Sage.
Sage is my favorite class by far, but when I talk to any baby sages, I reinforce the idea that crit is our first stat priority. Because of the way barriers work with crit, when you crit a shield, it applies a secondary shield. And this is huge because when using pepsis, it only consumes one of the barriers. I found this to be a super helpful tech trick to maximize your pepsis without sacrificing your shields. I use pepsis a lot because it is such a small cooldown and no MP cost. I would also warn new sages who are looking to raid to keep note of how sages work with other healers. Sages have a difficult time raiding with other sages or scholars due to the fact our barriers don't stack. Sage barriers stack with paladin barriers, but not other sages or scholars. Barriers become overwritten by whoever is the recent cast, so layering barriers is just a waste of MP. If you have to heal with another sage or scholar, try and coordinate cooldowns or establish a barrier and a raw healer.
@@harakiribanzai2483 Ideally, but I know with some statics, people are stubborn. They like to play certain healers for whatever reason and depending on how intense/casual a static is, they may just take two barrier healers simply to appease what those healers prefer to play.
I just started playing Sage a couple weeks ago. I almost never play healer in RPGs but I've fallen in love with it. But I feel myself struggling sometimes to really understand it. Alot of the "numbers and sats" go over my ahdh meat computer. Naturally, I looked up guides but this was the first one I found where you actually took the time to explain how and why every skill works and when to use them. Really appreciate it!
I'd like to make one point that I wish someone had told me before starting, and that is to practice Sage using the Trust system. There is nothing more humiliating than being in a dungeon as a baby sage and everyone is dying around you multiple times. Thank you for this guide and extra tips, it was extremely helpful!
Your voice is really nice.. makes listening to your guides super easy and you're very informative! Love it, and made getting into sage much more enjoyable!
For dungeons you can also use Krasis to snapshot stronger Regens and Haima barriers. For example Krasis before Physis buffs the Regen from Physis for its entire duration. Then while both are active you can use Kerachole and Haima so that they're both super buffed for their duration. It's a little overkill but most pulls end without me having to do much more haha
The tip about applying individual shields to multiple party members when you have a bit of downtime before big AoE to get back the Addersting is something I had not considered doing. I just hit 90 sage yesterday and am getting geared up because one of the healers in my static wants to swap to DPS, and I said I'd take over their heal spot. This will absolutely help with that. Thank you!
Glad your loving it! I really enjoyed Sage too, can't wait to try it out on future extreme trials and take it for a spin when Savage is unlocked from the weekly lockout :)
I'm a sprout tank. Got into an instance with a sage that gave me Haima, and I instantly knew I'd pick sage as my healer job. :D This guide helped me alot!
as a whm main this helped a lot actually. you’d think as a healer main it would be easy to adapt to sage since its a healing class, but whm and sge are entirely different beasts and due to whm relying on insta cast chunk heals, regen stacks, and only occasional dmg output. so juggling sge with the dmg heals and the actual healing was so hard for me because my tank kept melting when i took time to do dmg. now that i know what to do i’m looking forward to getting out of trusts for practicing lol
It definitely is very different to your typical regen healer, but its a rewarding experience I find! Just keep at it and I'm sure you'll do well without the trusts :)
Best thing is to get your combos down for big heals while not falling in love with doing damage unless your recovery shields and combo CDs are up. Sage is definitely a busy job but not necessarily hard to manage. There's alot of selection when it comes to managing your heals and shields. I say don't fall in love with just healing or DDs do both but prioritize Sheilds to conserve MP.
You can tell you must have helped many people before even making this youtube channel, just exemplary! Also sage not only feels good for tank mains but also going from support range dps to sage feels so much better than other healers Really an appreciable job in my opinion, having lots of fun and adapting very fast!
I've definitely always been one to try to help whenever its needed but I didn't realise how much I would enjoy making my knowledge and teaching a bit more open and public and the reception for that has been amazing so it just pushes me to continue making these types of videos. Sage definitely is very approachable, a very friendly job with plenty of kit to mess around with and really craft a unique playstyle :)
Tbh i double eukrasia diagnosis because when you do, it turns the first shield into a heal and the 2nd becomes a shield. Though i think its less of a shield and more of temporary hp. Temp hp has always been its own seperate thing in games but some people think its a shield when its only an hp for shield, not the character.
Love your content! I think it’s great that it encompass a lot of information which helps understanding so that I don’t just play it blindly. Looking forward to more!
As a caster main (since 2.0 launched), I was ridiculously excited for Sage. The aesthetic etc is just amazing. Astro used to be my go-to healer, but since I've started Sage, there's no looking back. Thank you for this guide. Especially for the melding/stat portion. Keep up the good work :)
Agree with the tank play style. Played Dark during Shb and notice the mitigation and shield cool downs similarities. Only now I spam TBN esque shields on others than on self. Feels a bit like 2nd off tank in raids.
Helpful, informative, detailed. Super helpful as always. I want to try healer class after maining Tank and Sage is what I've chosen and this video is super helpful for me. Please keep it up. Your channel is doing God's work. butt.. 🤣 that caught me off guard.
i main tank but i have fallen in love with sage. at first i was really unsure about it - it feels really intimidating when my go to healer was whm which is easy to restore HP from damage as opposed to slowing incoming damage so HP isn't lost to begin with. sage is great when you figure it out and is a great healer for tank mains. almost want to switch over to a sage main!
V neat guide! One thing I will say re: gearing is that Det is defo the primo stat over D.hit rn damage/output wise for a variety of reasons, but I've always found that the 'Det boosts healing though' argument...is kinda a placebo at best? I recall the math being done about it for healers in Shadowbringers before the numbers and Det change, so this may be more drastic now, but back then the difference was like...1% more damage for more D.hit melds and 3-4% more healing-ish. Which sounds decisively in favour of the latter...until you sit down and actually think about 'wait, how many times would +3-4% healing have actually changed the amount of heals I do'. I think a lot of people making the mistake of comparing defensive numbers like HP directly with offensive numbers like DPS and treating them both exactly the same, but the difference is more DPS is literally always a good thing, whereas you can and should have Enough HP/mit/etc. And SE/CBU3 are never going to design (modern at least) fights where those kinda small heal power increments are actually going to matter outside of hail mary damage RNG luck in situations where, lets be honest, you should've been pressing more mit/healing in the first place. It's like Tenacity for tanks; basically no-one has ever actually actively noticed a tank being more durable bc of going Tenacity simply bc those kinds of slim constant margins aren't really what this game is about outside of big dungeon pulls at most, which stuff like melding is always overkill for anyway.
Thank you! I appreciate this write up. I haven't ever progressed as a healer but I do heal at a pretty high level, that said I'm definitely open to this sort of constructive criticism and everything you write up makes a lot of sense. I definitely do agree to an extent, as I am a tank main and I avoid tenacity like the plague so I definitely see where your coming from with this :)
As a beginner to FFXIV AND first character WHM main from level 1, trying sage was terribly difficult for me. I am so used to 'fixing' damage instead of 'preparing' for it. I hope this guide helps. My only fear with sage is that I need previous knowledge of dungeon and boss mechanics in order to be efficient. Well.... that. And every single button does something totally different from what I'm used to xD. I'm gonna give it a watch tho.
While Sage is powerful, it just lacks party utility. There's also something to be said about the fairy over Kardion as well. The fairy can be placed anywhere you like, providing its AA heal and AOE healing coverage beyond even the Scholar's reach, effectively allowing a single Scholar to cover significantly more area than any other healer in the game. Then you have the fact that the fairy always works, regardless of if you are DPSing or healing. Where as Kardion only heals while you're DPSing, meaning a significant portion of the Sage's healing is lost any time you have to cast a GCD heal, as rare as that may be. The speed buff and DPS buff of Scholar is just icing on the cake.
Yeah I totally agree, at the time of making this guide I didn't fully realise how powerful Scholar really is and I agree Kardion definitely lacks in flexibility. I'm not sure if this is Scholar being too powerful or Sage being too weak? I didn't think about Kardion until you said that but that can seriously be a hindrance in a progression like environment, but it could be better once you get comfortable with a fight, so I'm conflicted and not sure. Either way I absolutely love Sage and I'm exited to make my Scholar guide once it hits level 90 :D
@@AzuriteTV I think because Kardion lacks the AOE aspect as well as how it focuses on a single target where a fairy will AA heal any target in its range, that Kardion should trigger on GCD damage abilities AND GCD heals. I don't think that will make it over powered, or better than the fairy. As Kardion has other significant limitations, such as it only healing your designated target with a significant enough cooldown as to make quick switching out of the question. It also doesn't provide AOE coverage at range either. That would also adequately improve Sage's single target healing through put enough to make up for its lack of party utility. It would make Kardion like a permanent, but slightly weaker version of Synastry.
@@sortofarbitrary6688 very viable changes I would love to see and I don't think anything you mention would make the job overpowered or anything, just more in line with Scholars power level, which would all round be healthy
I've just recently got back into FFXIV and it would be a great help while you discuss the rotation and mention the spells there would be a visual help so I would know which spell you're talking about. Still appreciate the guide
actually Pepsis is a pretty darn good skill.. if you time it right you'll mitigate dmg with the barrier and get the heals with pepsis so more dmg mitigated
That does sound good but also I've done both extremes and I never caught myself even using GCD shields unless there was downtime where I couldn't DPS the boss. My HPS was still good by utilising my oGCD heals :)
It's niche because you want to typically avoid using GCD shields when optimizing, but it's useful when it comes up! I kinda wish you still got Toxicon while breaking those shields though
awesome guide, instant sub! picked sage up pretty quickly, started doing all kinds of content with it. still confusing when i’m panicking. i do stuff like pressing pepsis before eukrasian barriers :/ but the job came naturally to me, i played discipline priest in wow. it’s pretty much the same concept except kardia (atonement) is a 15 sec buff you put on multiple people and putting it on people before raidwides and then smashing your damaging abilities can be tedious… and the healing from it is not capped, so you’re encouraged to minmax your dps. also you only have like 2-3 flat heals and 4 damaging spells. i could go on and on… sage is easier in this regard, but it’s so much more engaging and nuanced. nevertheless needed some clarity, thank you!!! also i believe the "ch" in "-chole" abilities is pronounced like "k" since it comes from greek (think ch(K)emistry)
I heard about WoW discipline priest and did think it was similar to Sage but at the same time I knew it would be pretty different as well, because the Sage DPS healing is pretty much the same as the fairy heal in potency regards, not the main source but a nice added bonus! I appreciate the sub and also the pointer about pronunciations, some of these greek words are really hard to say even with google translates help xD
I'm a sage main, and healing a warrior on sage is a non issue in dungeons. In fact, I usually just need to do physis and kerachole each pull, and keep them up with AOE damage, I normally never have to directly heal them unless kerachole and Holos are on cooldown, so I'll use taurochole for the damage reduction. Paladin needs a bit more attention, as does gunbreaker. When we get to dark knight, I find myself going through cooldowns as they come up, it's kind of crazy. As I've come across dark knights in better gear, it's gotten better, but damn, they're squishy tanks, and I hope they get some love.
The only tanks I might need to spare GCD heals on are Dark Knights xD they really do need some love, I hope they rework Living Dead and Dark Mind the most, maybe give themselves some self sustain too like err... literally every other tank
I've made a minigame for Warriors and Paladins: How long can I get away with just using indirect healing. For Warrior: I can usually get away with just using AOE/indirect heals pretty easily for the whole dungeon. Paladin: Eeehhh if something goes sideways, I usually need to use a druochole or taurchole once or twice. Gunbreaker, haven't had enough time with GNB tanks to really figure it out. DRK, if I"m spamming diagnosis, we're already dead :(
@@jaydee758 i had a warrior bring a boss from 73% to 16% solo after the rest of the party wiped on our first run of the side 90 dungeons 😭😭 i feel useless with warriors LMAO
On my main character the Sage is my main healer class if I had to say it had any kind of drawback it would be that because it’s a shield healer it’s healing potency isn’t as strong as some of the other classes so there are times in a fight we’re in order to keep everybody alive You have to forgo all forms of DPS and spam healing abilities to keep everybody alive as long as you’re quick on your feet and you know what you’re doing it is possible to do that.
Awesome, I’ve been avoiding dungeons cause I don’t feel confident healing wall 2 wall pulls. It Looks like I’m already doing most of this when I heal alliance raids and trials. I just gotta suck it up and throw myself out there for 4 man content.
When EW came i did start with Sage and now is my main Healer (before was SCH) i do Everything with Sage inluding the new Savage and the way i use my materias on Sage is Critical Hit first then Determination and it runs perfectly smoothly for me! d=(^_^)z LOVING this job 1,000%!! 💙 (Nice Guide btw! 😉👍🏻)
would love a sage dungen healing guide, with like a healing plan for trash pulls and boss fights in levling dungens as well as in endgame dungens. ( preferebly pictures so show ur healing plan )
I use e. Diagnosis on 4 allies, then Krasis -> physis II -> kerachole for pulls. And add haima/panhaima/zoe+pneuma/holos+soteria whenever needed. That way any party member can pull and generate toxikon stacks, which can be spent on aoe. Doing this prepull can also give stacks before a boss' raidwide when timed properly.
As an ilvl 630 healer main who has all four healers @ lvl 90....I don't know how tf y'all play Sage and like it. :/ Its healing abilities are subpar, its shielding abilities shield for far less than Scholar, it has little raid utility, and it has far less margin for error. But perhaps that's what y'all like about it? I can tell you right now that AST's and SCH's healing and shielding are so powerful that it may make them feel slow and boring to play. You don't necessarily need to be constantly mashing healing or mitigation buttons, which means you can focus on dpsing. SGE on the other hand practically requires rapid non-stop button pressing and dpsing just to keep your party members up and bearly alive. But that doesn't mean that that it's balanced or "good." It just means you're having to do significantly more work just to break even compared to the other healers. Sage is THE reactive healer. All of it's abilities are geared toward quick on-the-fly decision-making, primarily being instant-cast. Also, ironically, the less shielding and healing you have to do means the more time you can spend dpsing. Unfortunately, Sage spends more time healing and shielding than dpsing than the other healers. If you like that sort of thing, then more power to you. If Sage is your aesthetic, then right on! Play and do what you love. But Sage is absolutely not for me. I consider it the worst of the healers presently. My ranking would be: AST > SCH > WHM > SGE.
Hmmm, it use to be obtained with the uncapped tomes, but now I think you have to buy the glamour with hunt marks at Old Sharlya, I think... or is it nuts, I'm not sure but I think that's how you get the glam now
Playing SGE makes me feel like an ER doctor (even if it's nowhere close to the actual experience). It's fun weaving in oGCD's between Eukrasia before popping off a shield. The job reminds me of what I loved about SCH in ARR/HW and it's nice having a damage focused healer again. I have been personally going for a crit+spell speed build, being able to shave off some of the cast time for Dosis has been really great for getting in more Kardia procs over time and during movement when you're out of Toxicon or Phlegma, it gives you a little more wiggle room which I feel better about having.
I think the value of spell speed is actually really good and I'm starting to experiment with it myself, it really helps a bunch and I feel like it definitely contributes very actively to my DPS, so I definitely agree there!
I would add Rhizomata shouldn’t be held. It’s important you have as many addersgall throughout an encounter as possible. Even if you’re overhealing with Taurochole you’re gaining 700MP which is not to be sniffed at with low piety builds or issues with people dying in dungeons
Felt somewhat confident in my ability as a sage, I decided to do some leveling roulettes and got a Stormblood dungeon. We didn't get really far cos I completely flopped, felt really bad but the players were really supportive. If the team I played with in the Azim Steppe dungeon sees this, ily! After that experience, I watched this guide and have been practicing since, Tried a Heavensward dungeon which went really well! Thank you so much for the guide!! (Addition) I wasn't exactly sure what it was, but my heals and abilities just didn't feel like they were doing much, I'm unsure if my IL was too low. Would you perhaps know why? **Sorry to bother** Thank you a bunch for the warrior guide as well! I'm seeking to improve recently finishing Endwalkee and feel as though I'm on the right path! Thank you so much for making these aspects of the game understandable!!
I'm glad my videos do so much to help you! I don't have access to the game right this instant but I think a big thing is not having the trait on Kerachole which might be causing some healing confusion, I think you don't get the trait until lvl 78 so basically it doesn't give a regen until you get that trait, because of this you'll have to play catch up with your heals a bit, so it's a bit rough when dungeons sync you down, because sometimes it's not noticeable the moment you enter but they actually take away traits and that can throw you off quite a bit. This is my guess to your problem anyways! So my advice is to just make up it with some additional GCD heals like Eureka Diagnosis spam, last resort but it's the best we got at low levels, hope this helps and if there is still confusion don't hesitate to ask!
@@AzuriteTV lol everyone really just needs to understand that everyone is "melee" and to shoot mobs/bosses point blank. Their healers will be happier and they'll get more heals. xP
@@dr_jones9137 Preach this! The worst thing as a healer is when you're running a dungeon or raid/trial and you have ranged players who stand at long range for literally no reason, it makes me so sad :(
@@AzuriteTV As a melee main now subbing in some range classes I am very aware of this and I legit stand right behind or next to the healer lol. Since I was a DRG main most of my time in FFXIV I also stay close enough for Dragon Eye tether....But all DRGs still won't tether me =(. Pretty sure they just automatically think I am in Narnia somewhere lol.
I've found it useful to preshield myself and Icarus ahead of the tank to generate an extra addersting stack in dungeons. Note that you may make some inexperienced tanks uncomfortable by doing this, but otherwise it is a nice little DPS gain.
Haima is an amazing skill but I think a single tank buster will only break one stack of haimation and effectively only prevent that much damage. A shield move will probably prevent more damage when it comes to a tank buster?
This is true, but you have to think about the situation as well. Say for instance if there is a tank buster coming out but no tank swap after? Then Haima is probably good in this instance, but if there is a tank swap, then it will be completely wasted. In this case, we can put Haima on the tank a little bit before the tank buster so they take a few autos before and make full use of the effect Haima is providing. As for the 2nd part of your comment, when you say shield I assume you mean a Diagnosis shield? In which case unless absolutely necessary we will not be casting this, instead opt in for a Kerachole or Taurochole. If it is necessary to use a Diagnosis shield the only instance would be in a panicky situation (tank no cds in dungeons, savage, extremes, etc) or to test the waters of a tank buster we haven't seen before, but in most cases the mitigation the tank preps should be enough Sorry for such a long write up and I hope it helps :)
thanks for the explanation, it absolutely does help. When I was typing that I forgot the name of Kerchole and didn't want to misspell it, but was indeed trying to refer to the damage mitigation OGCDs. Thanks for the advice
It's worth noting that toxicon II is worth using in aoe. This is because it has the same damage as dosis III and then only 5 potency less than dyskrasia II on all other enemies, meaning its a dps gain over dyskrasia II up to a whopping 26 enemies, which will never happen anyway. Edit: Come to think if it, that makes it more powerful than pneuma in aoe as that does 60% less on other enemies
Worth noting, your dungeon leveling experience compared to endgame (and being synced down) is going to be vastly different. Leveling through 70-79 dungeons I feel as though I need to babysit the tank constantly, spamming heals, popping Haima, basically doing everything in my power to keep the tank up, and even then they sometimes end up dying. Compared to all the guides I've seen where the sage player just pops a shield and proceeds to spam aoe's like there's no tomorrow.
Can I out myself? I misread Krasis’s tooltip and thought it was an AOE increase. I’ve been casting it on myself since I started this job. Whoops. The funniest part? We’ve been progging hard content without problem. Guess I just got a new skill to test out.
Honestly I had to ask some friends for clarity on this ability myself, sometimes tooltips are too simple for their own good, with no further explanations it can actually be more confusing by keeping these descriptions short. So don't worry! I was literally the same
He's going to cover all jobs during this series eventually. It's just a question of time :) He's doing it role by role so now finishing healers and next up are melee dps.
I've been playing sage a lot with the new expansion and was wondering if when running dungeons it's worth using eukarasion diagnosis on your tank while he's pulling the mobs each time it breaks to get the max 3 stacks of addersting. You can use it in between your aoes while you run with him. Not sure if it's more damage though but it's something I've been trying out.
I dont understand why the players meld D.HIT on healers. Meld DET, it is a flat increase to damage and healing vs a CHANCE to do some extra damage on a single hit. Madness
When you have a good grasp of the healer class you're playing, that small a heal boost from det melding is never going to change the outcome of an encounter, so you may as well meld for whatever gives you the best dps parses. That way you'll lose less electrolytes when crying as the team wipes at enrages where an eighteenth of a spleen is left of the hp bar, as you're progging current endgame content, and you can farm extreme trials that refuse to drop mount whistles a bit faster. ;P If you're more on the casual side, these small number differences probably aren't going to affect your gameplay enough where it's worth remelding so just use what you think works best for you.
All healers and tanks should at least meld +36 Direct Hit so that they have a minimum 1% DH without needing outside buffs. And DH is almost always more than DET depending on how high your DET is. With current stats, you'd cap on your DET even if it's the secondary stat, so yes, I'd argue you should be melding DH in that case as well As for myself, I'm currently 3/4 of the way through P3S with 940 DH, 1800 DET, and 2200 Crit. 0 PIE (390). I have no issues with any of the heal checks or with MP unless I zone out or something. Believe me, the extra DPS is worth it on the adds. And yes, a 15% DH chance is quite high for a healer. It's literally the law of averages. You don't go into it thinking that you won't DH/Crit when you gear or meld for that.
I don't know why, but I have been running lvl 70-74 dungeons today (just picked up sage) my gear is lvl 70 (crafted) my tanks keep dying on me, I'm a long term WHM main but have also played PLD and wanted to give Sage a go. Maybe I'm wrong but I use Eukrasian Diagnosis before pulls, then add Kerachole + Physis II, then when the first Diagnosis shield breaks I reapply to get on the stacks while doing Toxicon + Dyskrasia for the most part. I end up finding tanks who can manage and tanks who can't mostly those that can't handle wall pulls. They start running around to avoid damage, but the heals are not good enough to output the damage applied to them, I have tried reapplying Eukrasian Diagnosis, using Druochole, Soteria to increase the healing from my damage and even Zoe + Diagnosis but still the damage is still greater than what the shields + heals can do. Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong? granted sin eaters do a heck ton of damage and it's a struggle even as a white mage, but as far as I have researched it seems I'm doing it right. A friend kept telling me the dps were not great and that the tanks weren't using cooldowns (only bolide/living dead in those oh shit moments). So I'm confused if it's me, the dps or the tank, I mean if the tanks keep dying on me as sage but 99% of the time never have deaths as whm, it might be me. I also have a question, what do you do in the situation where there's a wall pull and you have a dark knight that uses living dead. As a sage you can't simply put them up 100% with that damage coming in, there's not enough time i think.
In those early shadowbringer dungeons mobs hit like trucks and if the tank doesn't use a proper CD rotation on w2w pull and the dps aren't outputting enough damage there's only so much you can do. Just make sure you cycle through your CDs and what I also found helpful was spamming eukrasian diagnosis to keep the shield up when CDs are gone and mobs aren't dead. It gets much easier on higher levels especially when you can cycle through haima and panhaima for each pack on 80+
Living dead just sucks if it hits you unprepared. In best case you communicate with the DRK whether he plans to use it so you can save some of your tools for it. Otherwise you can just hope for the best untill you get pneuma
@@LuminNox thanks last time I had a dark knight that was exactly what i did, apply and reapply over and over but as far as I'm aware it's not supposed to be necessary. I'll have to ask the tank if they can handle wall pulls when going with DRK and GNB, with PLD and WAR I have no problems, granted WAR just heal themselves lol so I just come in as support to give juicy shields.
@@WarlordPayne Funny enough it has been better at the EW dungeons, they still hit harder but you and the tank get more defenses by then. I have had a blast playing SGE in EW dungeons. It's just PEW PEW MOTHAFUKAS.
@@AzuriteTV Ah, didn't see the text, I was listening to it at work. Great video btw, very helpfull. Just started leveling sage and it was a bit much at first. This cleared up a few things.
When changing your eye colour in the character creation screen there should be a check box for odd eyes, this provides another colour pallete to change the other eye. Hope this helps :)
I get why you want determination for both heals and dmg, but in that case why are you recommending an intelligence pot when a mind pot would buff both heals and dmg?
As a console play myself I can tell you that you need to target single party members in very rare occasions if they're not tanks. You can work around that by sorting your party list in a smart way and by playing more proactive
Yes make sure to use up and down on the D-pad to switch between only your party members. This will give you a soft target for 1 action but. you can also press X to hard target them if you need to fire off a few spells until you change targets Left and right on the D-pad is for enemies only Also holding R2 or L2 and pressing R1 or L1 is the best way to switch enemy targets quickly (as a tank for aggro or to apply dots as a healer) Hope this helps x
Using up and down on the d-pad automatically targets people in your direct party so all you have to do is make sure you’re in range to cast your spells/abilities, and you can do it while still locked on to enemies as long as you just use the action and don’t press whatever button you have as “interact” then as soon as you cast the spell/ability on an ally it’ll go back to targeting the enemy you were locked onto before. Also go into your character configuration and set up some of the targeting filters. You can set each one up to only target specific things (like only targeting Allies, enemies, objects etc.) and you can change them quick by pressing L1 plus one of the face buttons. It’s great for raids in case you have to rez other healers but it also helped me in instances with the AI companions you have to keep alive but AOE healing spells won’t effect. I use the filters so I don’t have to constantly worry about having to click through enemies AND Allies, & objects at the same time. I would definitely suggest watching Ginger Prime’s controller guides to find out all kinds of stuff you can do with the controller on this game.
Really good suggestion, I definitely recommend Ginger Prime for all controller guide needs, here is his channel ua-cam.com/users/GingerPrimeGamingplaylists
This video is very old and very cringe... check my updated guide for a more new and more cringe guide ua-cam.com/video/V0ObAYGq7Gw/v-deo.html
I don’t know if you hear this often to the point where it just sounds like I’m saying this just to say it but.. You’re a really good UA-camr, and this guide has definitely helped me become a better sage and I feel a lot more comfortable playing the class, so thank you very much for this 🤗 ! Keep up the good work!
I don't think Ill ever get tired of appreciation, so don't worry about that and I really do appreciate this comment! its uplifting and motivates me to keep on making the content that educates and can be enjoyed :)
I agree. I have watched quite a few videos on Sage and this video is the most helpful. Sage was quite a learning curve. It's nothing like my WHM. Sage is more focusing on incoming damage vs the whm burst heals. It took a bit to learn, but im loving it.
This is the first video that I've seen mention stat gearing and it's been something that I've been looking for as a Sage player. This video is loaded with great tips. Like stacking Crit makes the most sense because if you can crit more. You more damage and have a higher chance of getting better and stronger shields when the crit procs. Great video and for those who want a insight on sage or what not. It's worth the watch.
Thank you! I'm glad it was helpful to you and had some good tips :)
You came out of nowhere and are putting out some of my favorite xiv guide content.
Aww thank you! I'm really thankful for all the support and comments like this really make my day :)
Agreed!
I know this is kinda old at this point as far as youtube content goes, but this video genuinely helped me get over my healing anxiety and now I have sage at 90 and feel pretty confident in my abilities :3 so thank you so much!
You're welcome! I do intend to update these guides somewhere in the future (most likely 2023) but I am glad they have helped you with healing anxiety :>
Good stuff!
As a suggestion, for the next healer video you do, when you go over Esuna, point out that you can Esuna any debuff that has the little white bubble over the top and you *can't* Esuna any debuff without it. I've had healers in the level 89 dungeon tell me that I was the first one to teach them that, so it's definitely the sort of thing I'd want included in a guide like this.
Good suggestion, Ill get this in, in my next healer guide :)
@@AzuriteTV Cool.
Also, I forgot to include this in my original comment but you're early statement about how Sage is like a tank in that you're CD focused, actually kind of makes a lot of sense. I feel like it's a good explanation as to why I'm enjoying it as much as I am.
except misery, you actually have to use the /comfort emote to cure that one.
I found this out in TEA of all places for throttle 😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I think I’ve found my main with Sage. I loved leveling WHM to 90, but it felt lacking in damage, and complexity. This brings both of those. I’m enjoying playing around with different rotations that’s will let me totally focus on damage and not have to worry about anyone but the tank. I think that’ll be ossible with Sage.
Sage is my favorite class by far, but when I talk to any baby sages, I reinforce the idea that crit is our first stat priority. Because of the way barriers work with crit, when you crit a shield, it applies a secondary shield. And this is huge because when using pepsis, it only consumes one of the barriers. I found this to be a super helpful tech trick to maximize your pepsis without sacrificing your shields. I use pepsis a lot because it is such a small cooldown and no MP cost.
I would also warn new sages who are looking to raid to keep note of how sages work with other healers. Sages have a difficult time raiding with other sages or scholars due to the fact our barriers don't stack. Sage barriers stack with paladin barriers, but not other sages or scholars. Barriers become overwritten by whoever is the recent cast, so layering barriers is just a waste of MP. If you have to heal with another sage or scholar, try and coordinate cooldowns or establish a barrier and a raw healer.
If you are raiding you would want one barrier healer and one pure healer, so I don’t think if anybody that’s raiding would do a double barrier healers
@@harakiribanzai2483 Ideally, but I know with some statics, people are stubborn. They like to play certain healers for whatever reason and depending on how intense/casual a static is, they may just take two barrier healers simply to appease what those healers prefer to play.
I've watched a couple sage explanation videos and yours makes the most sense by far. Clear, efficient, and to the point!
I just started playing Sage a couple weeks ago. I almost never play healer in RPGs but I've fallen in love with it. But I feel myself struggling sometimes to really understand it. Alot of the "numbers and sats" go over my ahdh meat computer. Naturally, I looked up guides but this was the first one I found where you actually took the time to explain how and why every skill works and when to use them. Really appreciate it!
I'd like to make one point that I wish someone had told me before starting, and that is to practice Sage using the Trust system. There is nothing more humiliating than being in a dungeon as a baby sage and everyone is dying around you multiple times.
Thank you for this guide and extra tips, it was extremely helpful!
Your voice is really nice.. makes listening to your guides super easy and you're very informative! Love it, and made getting into sage much more enjoyable!
For dungeons you can also use Krasis to snapshot stronger Regens and Haima barriers. For example Krasis before Physis buffs the Regen from Physis for its entire duration. Then while both are active you can use Kerachole and Haima so that they're both super buffed for their duration. It's a little overkill but most pulls end without me having to do much more haha
Ohhh, I like this! I'll keep that one in mind the next time I'm running a dungeon with a DRK xD
Thanks, I have been trying to figure out to use Haima more efficiently.
I main tank and I love sage. I didn't understand why I told you brought up the cooldowns and it made complete sense
It really does right!? Feels at home as a tank main
As a main healer and playing Whm and Ast, I may finally give this job a try
The tip about applying individual shields to multiple party members when you have a bit of downtime before big AoE to get back the Addersting is something I had not considered doing. I just hit 90 sage yesterday and am getting geared up because one of the healers in my static wants to swap to DPS, and I said I'd take over their heal spot. This will absolutely help with that. Thank you!
Only halfway through this video. Great info. Loving Sage! Reminds me of when I first played Astro before they changed the cards. Never boring.
Glad your loving it! I really enjoyed Sage too, can't wait to try it out on future extreme trials and take it for a spin when Savage is unlocked from the weekly lockout :)
I love the intro explaining the scope of the video i really really like this
I'm a sprout tank. Got into an instance with a sage that gave me Haima, and I instantly knew I'd pick sage as my healer job. :D
This guide helped me alot!
as a whm main this helped a lot actually. you’d think as a healer main it would be easy to adapt to sage since its a healing class, but whm and sge are entirely different beasts and due to whm relying on insta cast chunk heals, regen stacks, and only occasional dmg output. so juggling sge with the dmg heals and the actual healing was so hard for me because my tank kept melting when i took time to do dmg. now that i know what to do i’m looking forward to getting out of trusts for practicing lol
It definitely is very different to your typical regen healer, but its a rewarding experience I find! Just keep at it and I'm sure you'll do well without the trusts :)
Best thing is to get your combos down for big heals while not falling in love with doing damage unless your recovery shields and combo CDs are up. Sage is definitely a busy job but not necessarily hard to manage. There's alot of selection when it comes to managing your heals and shields. I say don't fall in love with just healing or DDs do both but prioritize Sheilds to conserve MP.
You can tell you must have helped many people before even making this youtube channel, just exemplary!
Also sage not only feels good for tank mains but also going from support range dps to sage feels so much better than other healers
Really an appreciable job in my opinion, having lots of fun and adapting very fast!
I've definitely always been one to try to help whenever its needed but I didn't realise how much I would enjoy making my knowledge and teaching a bit more open and public and the reception for that has been amazing so it just pushes me to continue making these types of videos.
Sage definitely is very approachable, a very friendly job with plenty of kit to mess around with and really craft a unique playstyle :)
This is the best Sage guide I have watched. Thank you!!!
Thank you very much for this guide, really helps a beginner here!
This guide was really well done. Glad I found this channel.
I'm glad you found the channel too! :D
Great info currently lvling sage after mainimg scholler...i discribe sage as a scholar with attitude...
Tbh i double eukrasia diagnosis because when you do, it turns the first shield into a heal and the 2nd becomes a shield. Though i think its less of a shield and more of temporary hp. Temp hp has always been its own seperate thing in games but some people think its a shield when its only an hp for shield, not the character.
Love your content! I think it’s great that it encompass a lot of information which helps understanding so that I don’t just play it blindly. Looking forward to more!
As a caster main (since 2.0 launched), I was ridiculously excited for Sage. The aesthetic etc is just amazing. Astro used to be my go-to healer, but since I've started Sage, there's no looking back. Thank you for this guide. Especially for the melding/stat portion. Keep up the good work :)
Agree with the tank play style. Played Dark during Shb and notice the mitigation and shield cool downs similarities. Only now I spam TBN esque shields on others than on self. Feels a bit like 2nd off tank in raids.
Glad so many people see where I'm coming from, I'm not crazy after all!
Helpful, informative, detailed. Super helpful as always. I want to try healer class after maining Tank and Sage is what I've chosen and this video is super helpful for me. Please keep it up. Your channel is doing God's work.
butt.. 🤣 that caught me off guard.
What a fantastic and thorough sage guide. Thank you so much!
Welcome! Glad you liked it :)
i main tank but i have fallen in love with sage. at first i was really unsure about it - it feels really intimidating when my go to healer was whm which is easy to restore HP from damage as opposed to slowing incoming damage so HP isn't lost to begin with. sage is great when you figure it out and is a great healer for tank mains. almost want to switch over to a sage main!
Really does feel at home for us tank mains right! :D
Adding a comment for the algorithm. Be seen, I say! Very well put together, thank you.
Thanks, I appreciate that :)
._. I'm happy to find a FF14 youtuber that doesn't talk at the speed of light.
Sometimes I fear I do exactly this! So I'm glad I'm not, if I ever do though, make sure to point it out :D
V neat guide!
One thing I will say re: gearing is that Det is defo the primo stat over D.hit rn damage/output wise for a variety of reasons, but I've always found that the 'Det boosts healing though' argument...is kinda a placebo at best? I recall the math being done about it for healers in Shadowbringers before the numbers and Det change, so this may be more drastic now, but back then the difference was like...1% more damage for more D.hit melds and 3-4% more healing-ish. Which sounds decisively in favour of the latter...until you sit down and actually think about 'wait, how many times would +3-4% healing have actually changed the amount of heals I do'. I think a lot of people making the mistake of comparing defensive numbers like HP directly with offensive numbers like DPS and treating them both exactly the same, but the difference is more DPS is literally always a good thing, whereas you can and should have Enough HP/mit/etc. And SE/CBU3 are never going to design (modern at least) fights where those kinda small heal power increments are actually going to matter outside of hail mary damage RNG luck in situations where, lets be honest, you should've been pressing more mit/healing in the first place. It's like Tenacity for tanks; basically no-one has ever actually actively noticed a tank being more durable bc of going Tenacity simply bc those kinds of slim constant margins aren't really what this game is about outside of big dungeon pulls at most, which stuff like melding is always overkill for anyway.
Thank you! I appreciate this write up. I haven't ever progressed as a healer but I do heal at a pretty high level, that said I'm definitely open to this sort of constructive criticism and everything you write up makes a lot of sense. I definitely do agree to an extent, as I am a tank main and I avoid tenacity like the plague so I definitely see where your coming from with this :)
As a beginner to FFXIV AND first character WHM main from level 1, trying sage was terribly difficult for me. I am so used to 'fixing' damage instead of 'preparing' for it. I hope this guide helps. My only fear with sage is that I need previous knowledge of dungeon and boss mechanics in order to be efficient. Well.... that. And every single button does something totally different from what I'm used to xD. I'm gonna give it a watch tho.
While Sage is powerful, it just lacks party utility. There's also something to be said about the fairy over Kardion as well. The fairy can be placed anywhere you like, providing its AA heal and AOE healing coverage beyond even the Scholar's reach, effectively allowing a single Scholar to cover significantly more area than any other healer in the game. Then you have the fact that the fairy always works, regardless of if you are DPSing or healing. Where as Kardion only heals while you're DPSing, meaning a significant portion of the Sage's healing is lost any time you have to cast a GCD heal, as rare as that may be. The speed buff and DPS buff of Scholar is just icing on the cake.
Yeah I totally agree, at the time of making this guide I didn't fully realise how powerful Scholar really is and I agree Kardion definitely lacks in flexibility. I'm not sure if this is Scholar being too powerful or Sage being too weak? I didn't think about Kardion until you said that but that can seriously be a hindrance in a progression like environment, but it could be better once you get comfortable with a fight, so I'm conflicted and not sure. Either way I absolutely love Sage and I'm exited to make my Scholar guide once it hits level 90 :D
@@AzuriteTV I think because Kardion lacks the AOE aspect as well as how it focuses on a single target where a fairy will AA heal any target in its range, that Kardion should trigger on GCD damage abilities AND GCD heals. I don't think that will make it over powered, or better than the fairy. As Kardion has other significant limitations, such as it only healing your designated target with a significant enough cooldown as to make quick switching out of the question. It also doesn't provide AOE coverage at range either. That would also adequately improve Sage's single target healing through put enough to make up for its lack of party utility. It would make Kardion like a permanent, but slightly weaker version of Synastry.
@@sortofarbitrary6688 very viable changes I would love to see and I don't think anything you mention would make the job overpowered or anything, just more in line with Scholars power level, which would all round be healthy
Thanks for this! Also your character is adorable. 😭
You're welcome! And thank you :>
I've just recently got back into FFXIV and it would be a great help while you discuss the rotation and mention the spells there would be a visual help so I would know which spell you're talking about. Still appreciate the guide
First class video as always
Thank you, I appreciate that :)
actually Pepsis is a pretty darn good skill.. if you time it right you'll mitigate dmg with the barrier and get the heals with pepsis so more dmg mitigated
That does sound good but also I've done both extremes and I never caught myself even using GCD shields unless there was downtime where I couldn't DPS the boss. My HPS was still good by utilising my oGCD heals :)
It’s good if you notice taking dmg with shield on but shield didn’t break and you need healing then throw shield again
It's niche because you want to typically avoid using GCD shields when optimizing, but it's useful when it comes up! I kinda wish you still got Toxicon while breaking those shields though
@@AzuriteTV it's absolutely necessary in savage and ultimate
awesome guide, instant sub! picked sage up pretty quickly, started doing all kinds of content with it. still confusing when i’m panicking. i do stuff like pressing pepsis before eukrasian barriers :/ but the job came naturally to me, i played discipline priest in wow. it’s pretty much the same concept except kardia (atonement) is a 15 sec buff you put on multiple people and putting it on people before raidwides and then smashing your damaging abilities can be tedious… and the healing from it is not capped, so you’re encouraged to minmax your dps. also you only have like 2-3 flat heals and 4 damaging spells. i could go on and on… sage is easier in this regard, but it’s so much more engaging and nuanced. nevertheless needed some clarity, thank you!!! also i believe the "ch" in "-chole" abilities is pronounced like "k" since it comes from greek (think ch(K)emistry)
I heard about WoW discipline priest and did think it was similar to Sage but at the same time I knew it would be pretty different as well, because the Sage DPS healing is pretty much the same as the fairy heal in potency regards, not the main source but a nice added bonus! I appreciate the sub and also the pointer about pronunciations, some of these greek words are really hard to say even with google translates help xD
@@AzuriteTV no problem! keep up with the good stuff :)
I went from a BLM main to Sage main lol, definitely having fun with it
Sage really is a blast so I feel that :D
I'm a sage main, and healing a warrior on sage is a non issue in dungeons. In fact, I usually just need to do physis and kerachole each pull, and keep them up with AOE damage, I normally never have to directly heal them unless kerachole and Holos are on cooldown, so I'll use taurochole for the damage reduction.
Paladin needs a bit more attention, as does gunbreaker. When we get to dark knight, I find myself going through cooldowns as they come up, it's kind of crazy. As I've come across dark knights in better gear, it's gotten better, but damn, they're squishy tanks, and I hope they get some love.
The only tanks I might need to spare GCD heals on are Dark Knights xD they really do need some love, I hope they rework Living Dead and Dark Mind the most, maybe give themselves some self sustain too like err... literally every other tank
I've made a minigame for Warriors and Paladins: How long can I get away with just using indirect healing. For Warrior: I can usually get away with just using AOE/indirect heals pretty easily for the whole dungeon. Paladin: Eeehhh if something goes sideways, I usually need to use a druochole or taurchole once or twice.
Gunbreaker, haven't had enough time with GNB tanks to really figure it out.
DRK, if I"m spamming diagnosis, we're already dead :(
You have to heal war? Lol every war I've grouped with doesn't even need me...gnb on the other hand...my god...
@@jaydee758 i had a warrior bring a boss from 73% to 16% solo after the rest of the party wiped on our first run of the side 90 dungeons 😭😭 i feel useless with warriors LMAO
@@fon420 ya...warriors are absolutely gross and I love it haha
I had no idea using Zoe made shields stronger. Thanks for the video
You're welcome! Makes them shields super strong between pulls :)
Very well explained, thanks, putting this in my favorites
Thank you, glad you like it :>
Not gonna lie I found your channel & u helped me understand sage even tho I play on PS5 please PLEASE make a video for white mage & reaper much love
They are on the way! Hopefully you shouldn't have to wait too long :)
PLEASE!!!! do I started reaper at the other day @ lvl 70 need more insight
This is awesome bro! Thanks a bunch for this!
You're awesome! and welcome :)
Dude.. I haven't played Healer yet.. ur video tho, confidence booster!!!
On my main character the Sage is my main healer class if I had to say it had any kind of drawback it would be that because it’s a shield healer it’s healing potency isn’t as strong as some of the other classes so there are times in a fight we’re in order to keep everybody alive You have to forgo all forms of DPS and spam healing abilities to keep everybody alive as long as you’re quick on your feet and you know what you’re doing it is possible to do that.
great guide! I learned quite a bit from watching the video
That's gratifying to hear! Glad you learned some stuffs :)
I love how you’re pronouncing the sage abilities and spells differently every time you say them 😂 Great guide.
Awesome, I’ve been avoiding dungeons cause I don’t feel confident healing wall 2 wall pulls. It Looks like I’m already doing most of this when I heal alliance raids and trials. I just gotta suck it up and throw myself out there for 4 man content.
You can do it! As long as your tank pops their cds and you rotate yours accordingly, it will be smooth sailing :)
Also you can use rescue > Icarus and drag someone all the way with you :D
zoe mam-
zokes aside i really loved playing sage so far, thanks for the guide!
I usually save Zoe to combine with Pneuma to get a 900 potency aoe heal for when you need those big heals ^^
Definitely a good usage, I try to do this too :)
Thanks man really insightful and well strutured guide, gj :)
When EW came i did start with Sage and now is my main Healer (before was SCH) i do Everything with Sage inluding the new Savage and the way i use my materias on Sage is Critical Hit first then Determination and it runs perfectly smoothly for me! d=(^_^)z LOVING this job 1,000%!! 💙 (Nice Guide btw! 😉👍🏻)
It really is a fun job, so far my favourite healer in FFXIV! Glad you enjoyed the guide too, thank you :D
Thank you for making this
would love a sage dungen healing guide, with like a healing plan for trash pulls and boss fights in levling dungens as well as in endgame dungens. ( preferebly pictures so show ur healing plan )
I use e. Diagnosis on 4 allies, then Krasis -> physis II -> kerachole for pulls. And add haima/panhaima/zoe+pneuma/holos+soteria whenever needed.
That way any party member can pull and generate toxikon stacks, which can be spent on aoe. Doing this prepull can also give stacks before a boss' raidwide when timed properly.
I wish I included this in the guide, its actually something I make a habit of when doing some of the ex trials but just forgot to mention it here
Hi, nice guide! I think pneuma does 60% damage to enemies past the first, not 50% however.
Oops! that was a slip up, thanks for pointing that out!
Someone should do a PSA on the forums and inform Sage players that they have to actually do more than just kardia and then Dosis shit for an hour
As an ilvl 630 healer main who has all four healers @ lvl 90....I don't know how tf y'all play Sage and like it. :/ Its healing abilities are subpar, its shielding abilities shield for far less than Scholar, it has little raid utility, and it has far less margin for error. But perhaps that's what y'all like about it? I can tell you right now that AST's and SCH's healing and shielding are so powerful that it may make them feel slow and boring to play. You don't necessarily need to be constantly mashing healing or mitigation buttons, which means you can focus on dpsing. SGE on the other hand practically requires rapid non-stop button pressing and dpsing just to keep your party members up and bearly alive. But that doesn't mean that that it's balanced or "good." It just means you're having to do significantly more work just to break even compared to the other healers. Sage is THE reactive healer. All of it's abilities are geared toward quick on-the-fly decision-making, primarily being instant-cast. Also, ironically, the less shielding and healing you have to do means the more time you can spend dpsing. Unfortunately, Sage spends more time healing and shielding than dpsing than the other healers. If you like that sort of thing, then more power to you. If Sage is your aesthetic, then right on! Play and do what you love. But Sage is absolutely not for me. I consider it the worst of the healers presently. My ranking would be: AST > SCH > WHM > SGE.
great guide! and I'm just over here wondering where you got that outfit from lmao
Hmmm, it use to be obtained with the uncapped tomes, but now I think you have to buy the glamour with hunt marks at Old Sharlya, I think... or is it nuts, I'm not sure but I think that's how you get the glam now
@@AzuriteTV thank you!
Playing SGE makes me feel like an ER doctor (even if it's nowhere close to the actual experience). It's fun weaving in oGCD's between Eukrasia before popping off a shield. The job reminds me of what I loved about SCH in ARR/HW and it's nice having a damage focused healer again.
I have been personally going for a crit+spell speed build, being able to shave off some of the cast time for Dosis has been really great for getting in more Kardia procs over time and during movement when you're out of Toxicon or Phlegma, it gives you a little more wiggle room which I feel better about having.
I think the value of spell speed is actually really good and I'm starting to experiment with it myself, it really helps a bunch and I feel like it definitely contributes very actively to my DPS, so I definitely agree there!
I would add Rhizomata shouldn’t be held. It’s important you have as many addersgall throughout an encounter as possible. Even if you’re overhealing with Taurochole you’re gaining 700MP which is not to be sniffed at with low piety builds or issues with people dying in dungeons
I remember getting flamed for playing more or less exactly the way you do, because i'm a noob for relying on Kardia lmao.
I enjoy your vids
Felt somewhat confident in my ability as a sage, I decided to do some leveling roulettes and got a Stormblood dungeon. We didn't get really far cos I completely flopped, felt really bad but the players were really supportive. If the team I played with in the Azim Steppe dungeon sees this, ily! After that experience, I watched this guide and have been practicing since, Tried a Heavensward dungeon which went really well! Thank you so much for the guide!! (Addition) I wasn't exactly sure what it was, but my heals and abilities just didn't feel like they were doing much, I'm unsure if my IL was too low. Would you perhaps know why? **Sorry to bother**
Thank you a bunch for the warrior guide as well! I'm seeking to improve recently finishing Endwalkee and feel as though I'm on the right path! Thank you so much for making these aspects of the game understandable!!
I'm glad my videos do so much to help you! I don't have access to the game right this instant but I think a big thing is not having the trait on Kerachole which might be causing some healing confusion, I think you don't get the trait until lvl 78 so basically it doesn't give a regen until you get that trait, because of this you'll have to play catch up with your heals a bit, so it's a bit rough when dungeons sync you down, because sometimes it's not noticeable the moment you enter but they actually take away traits and that can throw you off quite a bit. This is my guess to your problem anyways! So my advice is to just make up it with some additional GCD heals like Eureka Diagnosis spam, last resort but it's the best we got at low levels, hope this helps and if there is still confusion don't hesitate to ask!
@@AzuriteTV Thank you so much! This cleared things up for me alot!!
Sage main: crap I missed that Euk Prognosis before the group wide...who wants some Pepsis? 😜
And then the sage main misses everyone with the Pepsis...
@@AzuriteTV lol everyone really just needs to understand that everyone is "melee" and to shoot mobs/bosses point blank. Their healers will be happier and they'll get more heals. xP
@@dr_jones9137 Preach this! The worst thing as a healer is when you're running a dungeon or raid/trial and you have ranged players who stand at long range for literally no reason, it makes me so sad :(
@@AzuriteTV especially as a Sage...nothing hurts my soul more than only hitting 3/4 party members with a Kerachole... 😭 Lol
@@AzuriteTV As a melee main now subbing in some range classes I am very aware of this and I legit stand right behind or next to the healer lol. Since I was a DRG main most of my time in FFXIV I also stay close enough for Dragon Eye tether....But all DRGs still won't tether me =(. Pretty sure they just automatically think I am in Narnia somewhere lol.
What is the weapons you use on the intro? They look super cool
The weapon is from the 2nd trial extreme mode :)
I've found it useful to preshield myself and Icarus ahead of the tank to generate an extra addersting stack in dungeons. Note that you may make some inexperienced tanks uncomfortable by doing this, but otherwise it is a nice little DPS gain.
Oh that's a nifty little trick! I like it though :D
I spam Pepsis when needed in big fights or large pulls.
Haima is an amazing skill but I think a single tank buster will only break one stack of haimation and effectively only prevent that much damage. A shield move will probably prevent more damage when it comes to a tank buster?
This is true, but you have to think about the situation as well. Say for instance if there is a tank buster coming out but no tank swap after? Then Haima is probably good in this instance, but if there is a tank swap, then it will be completely wasted. In this case, we can put Haima on the tank a little bit before the tank buster so they take a few autos before and make full use of the effect Haima is providing.
As for the 2nd part of your comment, when you say shield I assume you mean a Diagnosis shield? In which case unless absolutely necessary we will not be casting this, instead opt in for a Kerachole or Taurochole.
If it is necessary to use a Diagnosis shield the only instance would be in a panicky situation (tank no cds in dungeons, savage, extremes, etc) or to test the waters of a tank buster we haven't seen before, but in most cases the mitigation the tank preps should be enough
Sorry for such a long write up and I hope it helps :)
thanks for the explanation, it absolutely does help. When I was typing that I forgot the name of Kerchole and didn't want to misspell it, but was indeed trying to refer to the damage mitigation OGCDs. Thanks for the advice
It's worth noting that toxicon II is worth using in aoe. This is because it has the same damage as dosis III and then only 5 potency less than dyskrasia II on all other enemies, meaning its a dps gain over dyskrasia II up to a whopping 26 enemies, which will never happen anyway.
Edit: Come to think if it, that makes it more powerful than pneuma in aoe as that does 60% less on other enemies
Worth noting, your dungeon leveling experience compared to endgame (and being synced down) is going to be vastly different. Leveling through 70-79 dungeons I feel as though I need to babysit the tank constantly, spamming heals, popping Haima, basically doing everything in my power to keep the tank up, and even then they sometimes end up dying. Compared to all the guides I've seen where the sage player just pops a shield and proceeds to spam aoe's like there's no tomorrow.
I mean all the tank get their new mitigation buff so that’s why the dungeon become so much more comfortable after 80
Odd,I think it's the other way round,71-79 was easy for me but 81-89 is just hell
Watching this and the "Butt" made me sub
Glad you enjoy the subtle humour :D
Fantastic Prof o7
I would add zoe krassis eukrasian diagnosis pre pull to opener
Yeah I was meant to add this but completely forgot, oversight on my part
in my years playing ff14 , PLD & SCH only 😅
Is there an optimal GCD to hit via spell speed with sage? Ie. pld shooting for 2.4 gcd with skill speed. Thank you and great content!
Hey! As far as I'm aware, and I have looked into it! There is no optimal speed speed requirement for Sage
@@AzuriteTV thanks! Good luck with the channel! Looking forward to how it will grow!
first time ever healing and yes, im picking sage 💀
Good luck! its a fun healer :)
me: huh maybe ill try this
my controller: sweating profusely
I cannot relate but maybe someone else can xD
I used this guide.
ua-cam.com/video/zOTeEVDbzKc/v-deo.html
Gonna go get me a scotch and pepsis while I watch this and learn to heal sage.
I hope it provides a good takeaway along with a pepsis (because takeaway with a fizzy drink ha...ha ha)
Can I out myself? I misread Krasis’s tooltip and thought it was an AOE increase. I’ve been casting it on myself since I started this job. Whoops.
The funniest part? We’ve been progging hard content without problem. Guess I just got a new skill to test out.
Honestly I had to ask some friends for clarity on this ability myself, sometimes tooltips are too simple for their own good, with no further explanations it can actually be more confusing by keeping these descriptions short. So don't worry! I was literally the same
Excelent content, mind doing somelike along this line but for red mage? :)
He's going to cover all jobs during this series eventually. It's just a question of time :)
He's doing it role by role so now finishing healers and next up are melee dps.
my epithet is barrier! it allows me to create barriers!
I've been playing sage a lot with the new expansion and was wondering if when running dungeons it's worth using eukarasion diagnosis on your tank while he's pulling the mobs each time it breaks to get the max 3 stacks of addersting. You can use it in between your aoes while you run with him. Not sure if it's more damage though but it's something I've been trying out.
I think this is good tbh, I do catch myself doing this sometimes so I don't think your wrong for doing that! :)
Jesus, that tank was taking like no damage during those pulls. I'm still pretty new to healing, but I can't pull that off
Just keep at it! I'm sure in time you'll be able to pull it off like it was second nature :)
TBF it was a warrior, and they are true blue healers. They can take care of packs without a healer.
@@ReiyneFall Nah, that was still pretty impressive
I dont understand why the players meld D.HIT on healers. Meld DET, it is a flat increase to damage and healing vs a CHANCE to do some extra damage on a single hit. Madness
When you have a good grasp of the healer class you're playing, that small a heal boost from det melding is never going to change the outcome of an encounter, so you may as well meld for whatever gives you the best dps parses. That way you'll lose less electrolytes when crying as the team wipes at enrages where an eighteenth of a spleen is left of the hp bar, as you're progging current endgame content, and you can farm extreme trials that refuse to drop mount whistles a bit faster. ;P
If you're more on the casual side, these small number differences probably aren't going to affect your gameplay enough where it's worth remelding so just use what you think works best for you.
All healers and tanks should at least meld +36 Direct Hit so that they have a minimum 1% DH without needing outside buffs. And DH is almost always more than DET depending on how high your DET is. With current stats, you'd cap on your DET even if it's the secondary stat, so yes, I'd argue you should be melding DH in that case as well
As for myself, I'm currently 3/4 of the way through P3S with 940 DH, 1800 DET, and 2200 Crit. 0 PIE (390). I have no issues with any of the heal checks or with MP unless I zone out or something. Believe me, the extra DPS is worth it on the adds. And yes, a 15% DH chance is quite high for a healer. It's literally the law of averages. You don't go into it thinking that you won't DH/Crit when you gear or meld for that.
Why would you prioritize the stat that makes heals better when you're just attacking for about 95% of the fight
I don't know why, but I have been running lvl 70-74 dungeons today (just picked up sage) my gear is lvl 70 (crafted) my tanks keep dying on me, I'm a long term WHM main but have also played PLD and wanted to give Sage a go.
Maybe I'm wrong but I use Eukrasian Diagnosis before pulls, then add Kerachole + Physis II, then when the first Diagnosis shield breaks I reapply to get on the stacks while doing Toxicon + Dyskrasia for the most part. I end up finding tanks who can manage and tanks who can't mostly those that can't handle wall pulls. They start running around to avoid damage, but the heals are not good enough to output the damage applied to them, I have tried reapplying Eukrasian Diagnosis, using Druochole, Soteria to increase the healing from my damage and even Zoe + Diagnosis but still the damage is still greater than what the shields + heals can do.
Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong? granted sin eaters do a heck ton of damage and it's a struggle even as a white mage, but as far as I have researched it seems I'm doing it right. A friend kept telling me the dps were not great and that the tanks weren't using cooldowns (only bolide/living dead in those oh shit moments). So I'm confused if it's me, the dps or the tank, I mean if the tanks keep dying on me as sage but 99% of the time never have deaths as whm, it might be me.
I also have a question, what do you do in the situation where there's a wall pull and you have a dark knight that uses living dead. As a sage you can't simply put them up 100% with that damage coming in, there's not enough time i think.
In those early shadowbringer dungeons mobs hit like trucks and if the tank doesn't use a proper CD rotation on w2w pull and the dps aren't outputting enough damage there's only so much you can do.
Just make sure you cycle through your CDs and what I also found helpful was spamming eukrasian diagnosis to keep the shield up when CDs are gone and mobs aren't dead.
It gets much easier on higher levels especially when you can cycle through haima and panhaima for each pack on 80+
Living dead just sucks if it hits you unprepared. In best case you communicate with the DRK whether he plans to use it so you can save some of your tools for it. Otherwise you can just hope for the best untill you get pneuma
@@LuminNox thanks last time I had a dark knight that was exactly what i did, apply and reapply over and over but as far as I'm aware it's not supposed to be necessary.
I'll have to ask the tank if they can handle wall pulls when going with DRK and GNB, with PLD and WAR I have no problems, granted WAR just heal themselves lol so I just come in as support to give juicy shields.
Wall to wall pulls in leveling dungeons are rough even with a decent tank, and a lot of tanks are bad.
@@WarlordPayne Funny enough it has been better at the EW dungeons, they still hit harder but you and the tank get more defenses by then.
I have had a blast playing SGE in EW dungeons. It's just PEW PEW MOTHAFUKAS.
The one thing we can all agree on with sage is everyone pronounces the abilities so very differently XD
How are your keybinds setup? Using a mouse, moving and hitting 7 on they keyboard seems impossible without worrying about straining my wrists
I use an MMO mouse. It has 12 buttons on the side so I'm not actually hitting 7 on my keyboard :)
In the video you said pop and intelligence pot during opener, it should be a mind pot. Intelligence pots don’t work on healers.
Corrected in a text pop up during that part, easy to miss though my bad
Ugh, I really can't decide to focus my efforts into my sage or scholar primarily.
Is there a reason you would use an intelligence pot and not a mind pot?
My brain, you will be using a mind potion. I have text over the video when I say that but I guess it's easy to miss
@@AzuriteTV Ah, didn't see the text, I was listening to it at work. Great video btw, very helpfull. Just started leveling sage and it was a bit much at first. This cleared up a few things.
how are your eyes diffrent colors?
When changing your eye colour in the character creation screen there should be a check box for odd eyes, this provides another colour pallete to change the other eye. Hope this helps :)
*stares at the bars in pure confusion as to what kind of setup it is*
I get why you want determination for both heals and dmg, but in that case why are you recommending an intelligence pot when a mind pot would buff both heals and dmg?
That was a slip up, in the footage it corrects it with a text pop up, but in hindsight I should of just re-recorded that
As a console player I find heading impossible to target people any advise?
As a console play myself I can tell you that you need to target single party members in very rare occasions if they're not tanks. You can work around that by sorting your party list in a smart way and by playing more proactive
Yes make sure to use up and down on the D-pad to switch between only your party members. This will give you a soft target for 1 action but. you can also press X to hard target them if you need to fire off a few spells until you change targets
Left and right on the D-pad is for enemies only
Also holding R2 or L2 and pressing R1 or L1 is the best way to switch enemy targets quickly (as a tank for aggro or to apply dots as a healer)
Hope this helps x
Using up and down on the d-pad automatically targets people in your direct party so all you have to do is make sure you’re in range to cast your spells/abilities, and you can do it while still locked on to enemies as long as you just use the action and don’t press whatever button you have as “interact” then as soon as you cast the spell/ability on an ally it’ll go back to targeting the enemy you were locked onto before.
Also go into your character configuration and set up some of the targeting filters. You can set each one up to only target specific things (like only targeting Allies, enemies, objects etc.) and you can change them quick by pressing L1 plus one of the face buttons. It’s great for raids in case you have to rez other healers but it also helped me in instances with the AI companions you have to keep alive but AOE healing spells won’t effect. I use the filters so I don’t have to constantly worry about having to click through enemies AND Allies, & objects at the same time.
I would definitely suggest watching Ginger Prime’s controller guides to find out all kinds of stuff you can do with the controller on this game.
Really good suggestion, I definitely recommend Ginger Prime for all controller guide needs, here is his channel
ua-cam.com/users/GingerPrimeGamingplaylists