They Said They Couldn't Do It... Were they right?

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  • They Said They Couldn't Do It... Were they right?
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    Super 7 Ultimates Silverhawks Action Figure Review | Pixel Dan
    Welcome back to the channel, toy enthusiasts! In today's exciting review, Pixel Dan takes an in-depth look at the highly anticipated Super 7 Ultimates Silverhawks action figure line. These figures have caused quite a stir in the collector community, especially with their vac metal finish that harkens back to the original Kenner Silverhawks figures. But there's a twist! Super 7 previously stated that they couldn't use vac metal on these figures. So, what changed?
    Join Pixel Dan as he unboxes these stunning figures, giving you a close-up view of the intricate details and the shiny vac metal that fans have been eagerly waiting for. But not everything is as perfect as it seems. During the review, Dan encounters an issue that could be a deal-breaker for some collectors: the vac metal starts to flake off. How does this affect the overall quality and durability of the figures? Is the nostalgic appeal worth the potential wear and tear?
    In this detailed review, Pixel Dan covers:
    The packaging and presentation of the Super 7 Ultimates Silverhawks.
    A comparison with the original Kenner Silverhawks figures.
    An honest assessment of the vac metal finish and its pros and cons.
    Articulation, accessories, and overall playability.
    Final thoughts on whether these figures are worth adding to your collection.
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  • @Pixel-dan
    @Pixel-dan  3 дні тому +21

    Were they right about vac metal?

    • @ZedMazaus480
      @ZedMazaus480 3 дні тому +7

      Uh oh! Sounds like they didn't do proper vac metal clear sealent coating on them. Even this early joint flaking wear is a extremely bad sign. Anyone remember the transformers beast wars transmetal rat trap? That thing started flaking as soon as you took it out of the package when it was released back in the day. That's what happens when you skip seal coating vac metal.And I hate to say it, but high articulation flaking wear excuse is total bull muffins. Look at the vintage figures arm sockets. every part of those arms are vac metal. Including the peg /male conector that the arm swings on. I beat the heck out of those figure, and swung the arms and legs religiously. And you know what? those socket joints were the most prestine part of the vac metal on all those figures to this very day. Those weren any less friction stressed than a ball joint or modern hinge.
      Modern plastics not taking the vac metal process I could believe, but joint friction being the bigger issue? No.
      The actual reason companies stopped doing the vac metal process is because it was litterally poisoning the factory workers. So in actuality for Super7 to do vac metalling again they either need to throw ethics and factory workers health to the wind. Or go back to reinvent the wheel on vac metalling to make it safer. Which one do you think would have them not admit those problems or changes in the process? The answer to that is probably worse than consumers would want to believe....

    • @mksolid82
      @mksolid82 3 дні тому +6

      I think a very metallic paint (like Neca uses sometimes) would have been fine. Bizarre how they couldn’t find middle ground.

    • @Futuredynamo
      @Futuredynamo 3 дні тому +2

      I guess the positive side is that this is good news for my wallet. I've been cutting back on collectibles in general, and I never did buy the previous versions from S7. I was kind of tempted by these.
      I definitely prefer the look of Monstar and Buzz-Saw in their toy colors. As a kid, I had the main 5 Silverhawks, Commander, Stargazer, Flashback... and on the villains side I only had Monstar and Buzz-Saw, so those two villain figures in those colors are very nostalgic for me.
      The vac metal S7 figures look cool, but I've been worried what that would mean from a QC perspective, and based on this video, it is not good. Also I had noticed in pic that Quicksilver seemed a little too dark in color, and this video confirms that.
      While I am otherwise nostalgic for the vac metal look, and while it is annoying that these came out after Brian said they couldn't be done.... what REALLY bothers me is that we never got the versions that were promised early on. In some interview with Brian (it may have been that same one you had with him when he said vac metal couldn't be done), he had said that they were going to try to get find paint that would be as shiny in color as possible, but without doing a vac metal/chromed look. I was interested in seeing how that would turn out, at it seemed like a reasonable compromise.
      But instead, they released them in these dull, not at all shiny, supposedly "cartoon accurate" colors, which didn't do much for me, so with that coinciding with when I was starting to cut back on collectibles anyway, I opted to not bother with them. Then they announced these toy variants with the Vac Metal. I was potentially interested, but annoyed on behalf of those who already bought the previous versions (and REALLY glad that I hadn't bought them), but also concerned based on what Brian said when you interviewed him when they were first shown. He made it sound like there would be plenty of replacements available, etc., basically anticipating there being a lot of problems with these. That didn't give me much hope. And it was still contrary to what fans had been told, even if somehow they would have come out without any major issues.
      But as seen in your video here, there ARE some glaring issues. And given all that is now known, I would still prefer those theoretical versions with really shiny paint and no vac metal, but we will likely never get those. Heck, even if they were to try to release those, how many people would actually buy them? Anyone who bought the first versions thinking they'd be the only options, and then bought these only to have some major QC issues are NOT likely to give S7 their money again on more versions of these absurdly overpriced figures.
      On some level Monstar and Buzz-Saw are tempting to me, but if I'm not getting the main heroes, I don't have much interest in collecting just the villains. This whole thing is a mess.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 3 дні тому +5

      @@ZedMazaus480 As someone with several Soul of Chogokin figures it isn't "bull muffins" as you put it, Chrome on modern toys scruffs and flakes super easy.

    • @vriderch1360
      @vriderch1360 3 дні тому +5

      @@ZedMazaus480 No, it has nothing to do with sealant coating. It's not worth it. This is a case of people just saying that they want a thing without knowing how it's actually done.

  • @vriderch1360
    @vriderch1360 3 дні тому +28

    I feel like they did this just to say "I told you so."

  • @ToonamiT0M
    @ToonamiT0M 3 дні тому +28

    I feel that if they just used a very shinny paint as opposed to the vac metal, the fan base would have been satisfied for the most part. It was that the initial release had such a flat paint job that made the figures look dull.

    • @drewchase6577
      @drewchase6577 3 дні тому +3

      EXACTLY

    • @dannycruz5446
      @dannycruz5446 3 дні тому +4

      Yep. If they made the paint shiny like they did for Destro and Czarface there'd be no issue in the first place.

    • @coldersoldier
      @coldersoldier 3 дні тому +3

      Half the people that complained would've whined just the same.

    • @yauyuso
      @yauyuso 2 дні тому

      Well, then fans will whine that it's not vac metal. I think fans of the cartoon will be happy that series 1 was close to the cartoon colours.
      However, the original plan was to use a nice metallic paint but that development didn't work out because of the pandemic.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 День тому

      Metallic paint doesn't give shiny mirror finishes like the people who complained wanted.
      Chrome paint has problems with rubbing and flaking on moving parts no matter how you apply it: see Molotov Liquid pens.

  • @spaghettijacket7667
    @spaghettijacket7667 3 дні тому +18

    When the neck joint came out… oh man it’s too early for a scare like that.

  • @yokaicustoms
    @yokaicustoms 3 дні тому +25

    I could be misremembering but didn't Brian say at one point that they made some adjustments to the sculpt so that there was more clearance around the joints to help minimize rubbing? If so, that would explain the shoulder joints. Doesn't mean anyone has to like it, of course.
    I also recall Brian said that the production process meant that the arm and joints (for example) are made and then the vacmetal is applied to the entire arm+joint but the vacmetal can't really adhere to the joint plastic very well so chipping of the joints was basically guaranteed from the start
    (I realize you probably know all of this, just commenting on this for the community who might see my comment.)

    • @ADAM_COLLECTS
      @ADAM_COLLECTS 3 дні тому

      If Brian Flynn said it, it’s a lie, even if it comes true he lied and it was an accident

    • @ConstantineCydonea
      @ConstantineCydonea 3 дні тому

      brian is very good on lying!!! his excuses makes me laugh hard!!!

    • @yauyuso
      @yauyuso 2 дні тому +2

      THat's correct. because vac metal basically is dipping the entire piece to the paint so it adds thickness. So to counter it you will have to sand off the part to make it fit easier.
      I don't have a set of these vac metal silverhawks but I suspect in person, the parts will will less elastic that what you normally would get.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 День тому +1

      @@ConstantineCydonea Chrome paint rubs and flakes on moving parts it isn't a lie.

  • @ryzelrb
    @ryzelrb 3 дні тому +15

    This is what you guys wanted.

    • @itheuserfirst3186
      @itheuserfirst3186 18 годин тому

      "No, we would have accepted a more silver paint than the vac metal!"

  • @bee-beargaming
    @bee-beargaming 3 дні тому +6

    You probably need gloves when handling the sliverhawks

    • @MrWolf12000
      @MrWolf12000 3 дні тому

      I was thinking that the whole time they were onscreen. Insane as it may sound thats what I do with my OG Hawks and Transmetals.

  • @JulioGomezNYC
    @JulioGomezNYC 3 дні тому +27

    You all wanted Vac Metal.... you got Vac Metal. I'm happy with the cartoon accurate figures. I knew this was inevitable.

    • @dannycruz5446
      @dannycruz5446 3 дні тому +4

      People wanted shiny silverhawks not necessarily vac metal. A shiny metal paint app would've sufficed.

    • @JulioGomezNYC
      @JulioGomezNYC 3 дні тому +9

      @@dannycruz5446 but that's not what people were bitching about. They wanted it like the toys. Super7 said ok and it's clearly dumb. I knew it would be unnecessary. I rather have cartoon accurate characters than vac Metal, which never last long.

    • @vriderch1360
      @vriderch1360 3 дні тому +4

      @@dannycruz5446 No, they clearly begged for vac metal.

    • @kaylemathewcomendador6964
      @kaylemathewcomendador6964 3 дні тому

      @@JulioGomezNYC Honestly, I get what they mean. They could have at least celshaded them, instead we got flat and boring ones.

    • @JulioGomezNYC
      @JulioGomezNYC 2 дні тому

      @@kaylemathewcomendador6964 Then it would've look too cartoonish. Somehow it works with 1/6 scale X-Men but the original release are good, as they look like what I remember in the show. Vac is just a gimmick

  • @DaBigCheeso
    @DaBigCheeso 3 дні тому +4

    I wish they'd done a version of the wings on soft goods like the OG Quicksilver. That was my only real complaint. Monstar was definitely bigger than I expected.

  • @pauld5185
    @pauld5185 3 дні тому +5

    That first version of silver hawk should have been painted silver instead of that gray. If he was painted with a metallic silver I don’t think fans would have cried out for vac metal as much. I’m not a Silverhawks collector just an observer.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 День тому

      Silver is just metallic gray. Just like gold is just metallic yellow.

    • @itheuserfirst3186
      @itheuserfirst3186 18 годин тому

      Nah, fans wanted the vac metal; just like the original figures.

  • @armoriya
    @armoriya 3 дні тому +6

    $85 for Mon-star? Absolutely not.

  • @Madshellmonstrosities
    @Madshellmonstrosities 3 дні тому +5

    Oh man I screamed at the head peg breaking! No one said this would be a horror film!!

  • @theartisanrogue
    @theartisanrogue 3 дні тому +11

    You weren’t being negative, this was an honest review. Flynn knew how this would play out, and he did specify that tolerances in joints, plastic incompatibility issues with the vacmetal process, and overall fragility could be real possibilities. The neck peg coming out and the neck area separating is another level of wtf.
    I don’t envy being a toy creator these days between costs, varied fan expectations, feedback, and finding a final product and msrp that can cover expenses.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 3 дні тому +4

      Yeah, people don't realize it's not the 80s anymore and what was possible then isn't now.
      See also playsets.

    • @tyreewilson2140
      @tyreewilson2140 3 дні тому +2

      The cartoon steelheart didn't do that. The alterations for the vac metal is the issue. Flynn said these things prior but they still wanted it.

  • @tedc.williams832
    @tedc.williams832 3 дні тому +3

    The moment the neck joint snapped makes me wish there were multiple cameras filming you at that moment, because while I never want to see something that many people genuinely wanted and paid good money for being faulty, that may be one of my favorite "oh s^&t" moments in a product review ever.

  • @christopherdeleon2095
    @christopherdeleon2095 3 дні тому +19

    There's this Japanese toyline called Saint Seiya that does heavy vac metal all of the time, so it's a question of materials. Given how stingy super 7 is with their QC, they'd never be willing to do it right in the first place.

    • @gianluca.pastorelli
      @gianluca.pastorelli 3 дні тому +9

      I like the phrasing "this Japanese toyline called Saint Seiya", like it's an obscure thing. In Europe (especially Italy) and of course Asia it's actually massive!

    • @abrahamflores4344
      @abrahamflores4344 3 дні тому +3

      ​@@gianluca.pastorelli in latin america too

    • @ryanbobadilla2527
      @ryanbobadilla2527 3 дні тому +4

      They don't use vac metal anymore it's all diecast and metallic paint, I have a few and there isn't any vac metal on any Saint Seiya figures.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 3 дні тому +2

      @@ryanbobadilla2527 I have two of them myself and to OP yes, they do scratch and the instructions flat out warn you to be SUPER careful with handling and attaching parts to minimize risk of damage to the paint.

    • @tyronewested694
      @tyronewested694 3 дні тому +3

      No the vac metal on Saint seya is only on armor parts that attach to the base body

  • @Grochlink
    @Grochlink 3 дні тому +2

    That's it. Never opening mine. I'll keep the originals displayed.

  • @drewchase6577
    @drewchase6577 3 дні тому +4

    I think we would've been happy with just standard metallic plastic... like on a marvel legends iron man or colossus.

  • @jesusvillasenor355
    @jesusvillasenor355 3 дні тому +4

    I’m seeing video reviews of the vac metal flaking/breaking apart easily right out of the box and that the articulation isn’t on point. Yet, S7 had no problem charging 65 or more for these two figs. Cmon, we as collectors need to hold S7 accountable for thier bad QC if they’re gonna want that much money for these.

  • @onassiscustomdesigns5890
    @onassiscustomdesigns5890 3 дні тому +7

    Not worth the price they asking. Joints falling off paint flaking from a brand new figure. Not for the money they want.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 3 дні тому +5

      They warned people this would happen and people kept dogging them anyway so they finally did it like they wanted.
      And would you look at that? They were right all along.

    • @tyreewilson2140
      @tyreewilson2140 3 дні тому +2

      Neca does the same thing. But the guys wanted it so bad then let them foot the vac metal bill 😅😅

  • @alemovies
    @alemovies 3 дні тому +28

    With Super7 you are paying extra for a nice box, they are not premium collectibles.

    • @mr.rocket7550
      @mr.rocket7550 3 дні тому

      Nice joke dude! The fact that you worded it so seriously makes it even funnier 😂

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 3 дні тому +6

      @@mr.rocket7550 I'm not sure he's joking. Sure, they are priced like premium collectibles, but the quality is generally just not there. They cost more than Mythic Legions, for example, but are definitely not as good.

    • @kingmarkseven17
      @kingmarkseven17 2 дні тому

      ​@@mr.rocket7550oh he's not joking. He actually has a good point. They are priced way too high for what they are. They are $35 figures at best.

    • @yauyuso
      @yauyuso 2 дні тому

      They are premium collectibles. But often they do cartoon characters that doesn't have a dazzle or eye catching details more high end companies do.

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 2 дні тому +1

      @@yauyuso sorry, strong disagree. It's not just the style that makes something a premium collectible, although that does help. But the engineering, tolerances, amount of paint and precision of application, even quality of sculpting, all play into that. The S.H. Figuarts Dragon Ball characters (not Z, original DB) all have a cartoony appearance, but still strong sculpting and paint applications. Super7's products are mostly at the level of Hasbro and Mattel. Sometimes they release a banger, and they do tend to load out the accessories at least, but a lot of it is greatly underwhelming (their Power Rangers figures, for example, are not even as good as the remastered Lightning Collection, IMO. I also purchased their Cobra BAT, but honestly do not find it particularly superior to the Classified version).

  • @tenimeartstudios
    @tenimeartstudios 3 дні тому +2

    The open fingers on Buzzsaw are to "pull" his chest ripcords. That's how I have my yellow one displayed (the toy versions are still in my Pile of Loot).

  • @CringerKitty
    @CringerKitty 3 дні тому +2

    Super7 makes some beautiful looking figures, but I have learned to keep whatever I buy from them in packaging (or buy 2 to have 1 loose). Their quality control issues are well documented at this point.

  • @wolfman210
    @wolfman210 3 дні тому +7

    TBH I feel like this is one of those cases where you can't really be mad, because they did warn the fandom that this would happen.
    It also happens with my SOCs that have metallic paint like these so it isn't exclusive to Super 7.

  • @PlasticGeek
    @PlasticGeek 3 дні тому +3

    I recall Brian saying the abs parts that the joint swivels are made of can’t be chromed, but they couldn’t be excluded when chroming the rest of the parts so it will just flake off those parts when used, because they weren’t supposed to be chromed to begin with. So it actually should slide off of the inner joint discs.

  • @carlswicegood4519
    @carlswicegood4519 3 дні тому +5

    Mon-Star was the ultimate big bad in my toy universe growing up. Skeletor, Cobra Commander and Megatron reported to HIM. So I really would like one for my display, but with that limited articulation and price point I don't think he's going to bossing around anyone on my villains shelf.

    • @MrWolf12000
      @MrWolf12000 3 дні тому +2

      If you keep your eyes peeled the Wave 1 version can be found at a much more reasonable price. I got mine for 45 from BBTS on a daily deal. Its a fantastic figure and at that size and price was cheaper than an oversized Marvel Legends; but that was luck and timing.
      That toy version will likely be in shorter supply, so I would not count on that specific version being discounted but who knows.

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 3 дні тому

      @@MrWolf12000 I was going to say the same thing, and I think I got the same deal as you. The new one might be shorter supplied, but I don't know, I don't think there is a lot of demand for Silverhawks, and Super7 may have actually killed collector's enthusiasm for the line by playing these games with saying they couldn't do vac metal, and now putting them out. I guess we'll see.
      Incidentally, I did get the toy version of Mon-Star. It is... okay. Limited articulation is still frustrating (hard to get him to sit in his throne) and his entire torso is completely unpainted, just colored plastic. Not only that, but I had the old figure, and I based on my memories and this video, he had a semi-gloss finish, but the new release is completely matte all over. I don't hate it, but it does feel lacking, especially for such a high price point.

  • @darthprime4916
    @darthprime4916 3 дні тому +3

    Appreciate the honesty. I’ll
    Keep
    These in box.

  • @kinja73
    @kinja73 3 дні тому +3

    Hmm...the vac metal is gorgeous, but the trade-off in overall quality is a bummer.

  • @user-ep5ck4mj4x
    @user-ep5ck4mj4x 3 дні тому +13

    We want Kenner reissue. Like Ghostbusters.

    • @dantheman683
      @dantheman683 3 дні тому +1

      Glad YOU said it, because that's ALL I've been asking for, ever since "Not-So-Super-7" announced having the I.P.....

    • @MrWolf12000
      @MrWolf12000 3 дні тому +2

      Yes please.

    • @265308
      @265308 3 дні тому +1

      Exactly! iD BE AS MANY AS COULD!!! WISH THEY REIISSUE THE VINTAGE tHUNDERCATS AS WELL SO COULD complete the loose that I am missing and n cool for display...the Silverhawks cards were huge!

    • @Jediaxle
      @Jediaxle 2 дні тому +1

      @@user-ep5ck4mj4x totally agree. I would love to see a reissue even though I still have the OG’s.

  • @franciscojavierlopezcerda9916
    @franciscojavierlopezcerda9916 3 дні тому +2

    This happened to the vintage silver hawks same issue!

  • @rickytoddbotelho9555
    @rickytoddbotelho9555 3 дні тому +2

    They all look good, but the problem with super 7 is the lack of engineering. Buzzsaw should have had a head that was engineered to raise and lower.

  • @bufordhighwater9872
    @bufordhighwater9872 3 дні тому +2

    I'd maybe say that Quicksilver is a gunmetal color.

  • @impossiblepie
    @impossiblepie 3 дні тому +1

    A great honest review Dan! Thanks!

  • @Lio_Convoy
    @Lio_Convoy 2 дні тому +1

    1. The Super7 ThunderCats aren’t “based on the cartoon”. They’re too woefully inaccurate for that.
    2. Super7 has constantly lied for years. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that they did this.

  • @johnslaydon4723
    @johnslaydon4723 3 дні тому +2

    I get the concerns Super7 had about the vacmetal. Flaking is an issue. BUT!!!! A loose neck is just indicative of how TERRIBLE the quality control is for the Ultimates lines. I used to own both Turtles and G.I. Joe but the QC on those lines and the complete overprice for the figures made me abandon them to eBay. Super7 does not sell high-end collectibles. They sell expensive packaging with subpar toys.

  • @1000bip
    @1000bip 3 дні тому +4

    I’m waiting for the TigerSharks

  • @mksolid82
    @mksolid82 3 дні тому +12

    Why didn’t they just use very metallic paint on the regular cartoon releases? It didn’t have to be vac metal. Finding a middle ground would have been fine.

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 3 дні тому +2

      That seems to be the eternal question. I mean, Silverhawks isn't MOTU or Transformers or something where it has a huge fanbase demanding slavish cartoon accuracy. I really doubt many people would have been disappointed with shiny metallic paint.

    • @mksolid82
      @mksolid82 2 дні тому

      @@Freefall347 The music intro of the cartoon is a lot of fun, but the cartoon itself is pretty bad. The old toys are what always came first. The whole situation is a big misfire.

  • @wildsmiley
    @wildsmiley 3 дні тому +3

    That Steelheart figure is stunningly beautiful. 😍

  • @AutomaTom1939
    @AutomaTom1939 3 дні тому +1

    The same thing happened to the neck joint on my SteelHeart, too. I wasn't able to pull the dumbbell out of the head, so I had to just put it back into the neck. Despite doing it as delicately as possible, the front and back halves of the neck/torso started to split when I did. Luckily it finally went back in, but I'm not touching that thing again! No mask for SteelHeart. 😅

  • @kt1fan341
    @kt1fan341 3 дні тому +14

    That good old super 7 quality can’t wait for the 2003 turtles lol

    • @vriderch1360
      @vriderch1360 3 дні тому +1

      None of those figures have vac metal so it's not comparable in the slightest.

  • @0u812343
    @0u812343 2 дні тому

    It was nice to meet you at joefest! I didn’t know they made these, I think it’s a little pricey for me. Especially if they scratch up too easy. I’d be afraid to even touch them. I may get and maybe not.

  • @PureLove1818
    @PureLove1818 3 дні тому +2

    The matte versions are looking better n better...lol

  • @EvrydayErik
    @EvrydayErik 3 дні тому +3

    Silver paint could’ve fixed all of this.

    • @tyreewilson2140
      @tyreewilson2140 3 дні тому

      Not what the collectors asked for

    • @kingmarkseven17
      @kingmarkseven17 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@tyreewilson2140yes it was. They just listened to the wrong collectors.

  • @Sinsightful
    @Sinsightful 3 дні тому +3

    This video perfectly shows how sad the 'quality' of S7 figures are....especially for the outrageous prices they continually keep raising. I seriously don't understand how they stay in business. 😢

  • @bookat69
    @bookat69 3 дні тому +3

    I'm kind of sad those toy versions of Buzz-Saw and Mon*Star come with fewer accessories, but still cost the same as the initial releases. They've each got a new head sure, but it looks like they cut a lot of other stuff out just to put those in or to keep it more faithful to the vintage toys...but without adjusting the cost for getting less stuff over all

    • @dannycruz5446
      @dannycruz5446 3 дні тому

      Buzzsaw is actually $10 more than the original release 😮

  • @razrentals8897
    @razrentals8897 2 дні тому

    The neck breaking isn’t just a problem with these vac metal figures. This also happened with aMondo Gecko Ultimates I got from them and also a Thundercats Rataro. I’m pretty sure a few others where I could see the neck starting to pull apart so I never changed the head.

  • @mannaandmonsters
    @mannaandmonsters 3 дні тому +43

    Tamashii Nations was able to do it just fine for their Dragon Ball line Metal Cooler. Super 7 just continues to fumble.

    • @Redeemer23collectibles
      @Redeemer23collectibles 3 дні тому +9

      @mannaandmonsters I have that cooler fig but it does have some flaking so not true as far as chromed out figs not one company is perfect.

    • @mannaandmonsters
      @mannaandmonsters 3 дні тому +5

      @@Redeemer23collectibles I have that figure as well. I had to mess with it for a while before I had flaking of any kind. Also didn’t have to worry about limbs falling off or looseness in the joints.

    • @wolfman210
      @wolfman210 3 дні тому +4

      I have several Soul of Chogokins that have flaking and scruffs on their chrome parts just from being stored so yes it very much is an issue and not just Super 7.

    • @tyronewested694
      @tyronewested694 3 дні тому +3

      Actually no Metal cooler only has vac metal on armor pieces all the base body and joints are all painted silver

    • @MrWolf12000
      @MrWolf12000 3 дні тому +4

      Not to dimiss S7 qc issues, but SHF are just as if not more expensive from a far more experienced toy company.
      Not excusing anything but we cant seriously compare the quality of S7U to SHF. Its Apples and Steak.
      OT I have long thought that Ultimates needed to be in line with NECA pricing

  • @BriarShinn
    @BriarShinn 3 дні тому +3

    We can't even be mad because they warned us but we just couldn't stop asking for them

  • @bernsk
    @bernsk 3 дні тому

    Great review man so honest as always, you’re Pixel Dan for a reason! Keep it up!

  • @FireBomberBassist
    @FireBomberBassist 2 дні тому

    Something I unfortunately wouldn’t open, and I love to open my stuff.

  • @job4391
    @job4391 3 дні тому +1

    Can you talk to Brian at Super 7 and see if we can get Venture Brothers Reaction figures.

  • @TheIndoNerd
    @TheIndoNerd 2 дні тому

    Dan thanks for keeping it real and admitting you were annoyed etc

  • @jonathantomala8465
    @jonathantomala8465 3 дні тому

    Thanks for doing this review.

  • @WagesofCine
    @WagesofCine 3 дні тому

    Great review. I thought that neck snapped at first and was like “oh no”. Then can already tell I’ll be afraid to handle these. I’m going to do my best to accept that there be flaking and scuffs.

  • @jenwinslow5602
    @jenwinslow5602 2 дні тому

    As much as I love the look of the vacuplated figures, they would either remain in the box or, honestly, i like the gray first release and will probably stay with that.
    Thanks for this review!

  • @chrisalan457
    @chrisalan457 3 дні тому

    I have the Quicksilver and it looks beautiful!!! The thing is I would not move the joints much if at all. These are mainly meant as display pieces and as such works just fine on a display.

  • @runswithcaesars
    @runswithcaesars 2 дні тому

    You can't tell me, even with all the modern articulation these new figures are better than the ones from the 80's.

  • @barryhebert5839
    @barryhebert5839 3 дні тому

    Looks like something that u should never take out the box

  • @Goldenbane
    @Goldenbane 3 дні тому

    When I finally bought the four Silverhawks figures (Quicksilver, Steelheart, Steelwill, and Blue Grass) they surprised everyone by releasing the vac-metal figures. I was so disappointed because I couldn't afford both. However, seeing this, I'm now extremely happy that I got the original versions. They might not be as pretty, but they are a lot more sturdy and fun to play with.

  • @markcarpenter211
    @markcarpenter211 2 дні тому

    If I ever got these they would never come out of the box. I switch to being an in box collector awhile back. These are expensive figures and the quality issues that come up with many developers are insane, especially Mcfarlane.

  • @markheadley125
    @markheadley125 17 годин тому

    Awesome silverhawks action figure collection❤❤❤❤❤😊

  • @brotquel1592
    @brotquel1592 3 дні тому

    As a transformers collector, I learned long ago that chroming parts that are constantly moving around is simply not going to work. In my branch of collecting, we had many such cases and, honestly, I am really glad TF toys moved past it (aside from the eyes, please, hasbro, leave lightpiping in the past and start chroming figures' eyes).
    Honestly, I think some sort of pearlescent plastic would work much better, especially in showing the colored hues of the metal.
    For the toys shown, that Buzzsaw looks really good, far better than the cartoon version.
    In character design, color separation is so important to avoid your character (or toy) look like an undefined blob and, on a sale perspective, you want your customers to be able to spot the character they want even among a sea of other toys.

  • @alemartin444
    @alemartin444 2 дні тому

    The answer is made the inner articulation from a silver non chromed plastic, like bandai did on Metal Cooler SH Figuarts.

  • @trollpaintingminis4496
    @trollpaintingminis4496 3 дні тому +1

    I wonder why Super 7 is having such a problem with vac metal when bandai does it literally all the time throughout their different toy and model kit lines

    • @tyronewested694
      @tyronewested694 3 дні тому +1

      No they don't ever make figurs fully vm. They add vm armor bits to foguarts figures

    • @MrWolf12000
      @MrWolf12000 3 дні тому

      ​@@tyronewested694 there are special coating Gundams; theres a PG RX-78 thats outer shell is entirely vac metal trees of parts. Its an incredible sight to behold but anxiety inducing AF

  • @aaronj235
    @aaronj235 День тому

    I'm not sure why the original cartoon version release didn't have cell shaded style 3 tone highlights painted on to give them a better faux metallic look that was still TV accurate

  • @tompollockjr144
    @tompollockjr144 2 дні тому

    Brian warned us, but we just drove off the vac-metal cliff anyway...

  • @decipleofnod6515
    @decipleofnod6515 2 дні тому

    Maybe Super 7 ultimately made these versions for inbox collectors.

  • @RirseDeBlood
    @RirseDeBlood 3 дні тому +1

    The VACs looks so good at a glance, but the moment you get to Steelheart they start falling apart. Do kinda want the green guy through as I never bought the original (got the other three originals).

  • @Redeemer23collectibles
    @Redeemer23collectibles 3 дні тому +3

    Well this is what Super 7 warned all those that begged and pleaded for the chromed out versions of these specific figures so can we really blame Super 7 or do we take the blame ourselves for being nit picky on something that we actually wanted ???????? Now as far as the price point it's fine in my opinion reason being we are not living back in the 80's , 90's, or early 2000's. Action figures in general are done way better as far as articulation and accurate sculpts and paint apps to the characters, let's be honest they've come a long way from what we had back then Super 7 has done a great job thus far it's just you can't please every consumer everyone can be a critic but if you actually don't create, sculpt, or design figs you actually don't realize what's the process behind what the consumers want so it's a double edged sword. Overall they're great figs and pricing doesn't bother me, if you want a marvel legends price point then your going to get less for your figures it's the nature of the beast. I mean we go out to toy shops and purchase vintage figures and pay upwards of $80, $100, to $200 for a VINTAGE FIGURE that only has 5 POA he-man, G.I. JOES, Dungeons and Dragons etc, etc and we'll justify that but then complain with figures that have better articulation, sculpts, paint apps and accuracy of asking price of the same value or more for me it's a make it make sense. I collect, hottoys, three zero, sideshow, Super 7, mattel , storm Collectibles, the list goes on and on and it is what it is on pricing some companies charge less some more all depends on what you want Raman toys made a silverhawks quicksilver and for me doesn't look like the character at all it's their take on the character which is fine but did not move me to own or purchase but hey I know some friends of my did and that's ok . Overall great video and good topic to bring up on your thoughts on it and giving us an opportunity to comment about our thoughts on the figs .

  • @Randomark3087
    @Randomark3087 18 годин тому

    Buzzsaw looks really cool

  • @chevy-is-a-good-boy
    @chevy-is-a-good-boy 3 дні тому

    Brian probably genuinely believed they wouldn't attempt vac metal, back when he was first asked.

  • @TheKingOfCollectors
    @TheKingOfCollectors 3 дні тому +1

    As a kid I thought the shiny ones were awesome but now they just look cheap, the cartoon version is an upgrade we shouldn't go backwards...my cartoon version Steelheart had the same neck problem too.

  • @johnfronczek2658
    @johnfronczek2658 3 дні тому +1

    If Pixel Dan has real complaints, you can trust him. If both Shartimus Prime and Pixel Dan have problems, it’s wise to be cautious with the Super 7 Silverhawks.

    • @tyreewilson2140
      @tyreewilson2140 3 дні тому

      Shart is waaaaay to rough with any fig to trust him lol but Dan sure

  • @tenimeartstudios
    @tenimeartstudios 3 дні тому

    My toon version Steelheart's torso comes apart if you apply too much pressure on the "super articulated" (ridiculously limited range) joint. (And my first TCats Mandora's torso joint snapped with even LESS pressure trying to move a barely movable joint.)
    It's NOT "just" the vacmetal.

  • @michaelmcfarlandjr9015
    @michaelmcfarlandjr9015 3 дні тому

    Great review, I kind of wish they did the vintage wings as well for the toy versions but the vac metal looks cool

  • @user-xo3pq9ld4m
    @user-xo3pq9ld4m 3 дні тому

    I love having cartoon versions, but I also love having vac metal toy versions. Just wish Super7 would invest in better quality control.

  • @machineman6498
    @machineman6498 3 дні тому

    Likely ABS. Does the shoulder joint “plug-in” to a vinyl bushing?
    Still looks great.
    It’s honestly going to get 1 or 2 poses and then live on a shelf for years.

  • @Prime92
    @Prime92 3 дні тому

    This seems weird to me. The chrome should thicken the joints up, not make them lose. Unless they modified the joints to try and compensate for the chrome, and went a bit too far.

  • @tgonzalez1983
    @tgonzalez1983 2 дні тому

    They should use a better paint method rather than vac metal. Or use a separate plastic on the joints for a seamless transition

  • @victormeyer4116
    @victormeyer4116 3 дні тому

    To me it's a surprise that Marvel didn't sue the creators of Silverhawks because of the name of the leader Quicksilver.

  • @warrennewman5325
    @warrennewman5325 3 дні тому

    These look amazing love the shiny design awesome figures great review dan 👍

  • @lamcarter
    @lamcarter 3 дні тому

    19:45 wasn’t the vac metal process. The originals have sloppy loose joints too.

  • @vengeance1701
    @vengeance1701 2 дні тому

    Find a pose and stick with it, I guess.

  • @KryptonianClone7828
    @KryptonianClone7828 3 дні тому

    How are you, Pixel Dan? I haven't Saw the SilverHawks in a very long time, since I was a Teenager. I didn't know they already Produced those Figures. Absolute Stunning Looking SilverHawks Figs! Very Informative and Entertaining! 🌟

  • @JAbell1966
    @JAbell1966 3 дні тому

    Seems like you should use white museum gloves or neoprene gloves to handle these things and that's just for the fingerprint issue, nothing is going to help with chipping and flaking short of never removing them from the box.

  • @RichRetr0
    @RichRetr0 3 дні тому

    I dont think its the vacmetal that is making the joints loose. You showed that the joints on Monstarr and Buzzsaw were loose too and they aren't vacmetal. I think it's just par for the course on Super7 quality.

  • @211inprogress
    @211inprogress 2 дні тому

    I thought of a way to get around the Vac-metal problem, they need to make the figures out of metal. 👍

  • @Sketchartofsanchez
    @Sketchartofsanchez 3 дні тому

    I use a small piece of aluminum foil in the joints to create pressure plus its shiny too 🤩

  • @david94134
    @david94134 2 дні тому

    I'm still hoping they release the rest of the team in Vac Metal.

  • @Templar462
    @Templar462 3 дні тому

    I'm sure these are fine for folks who keep their figures in the package to display. But I open my toys and play with them. I loved my old Silverhawks figures as a kid, and I played with them constantly... and of course, they got completely scraped up and just trashed because of it. These look a-freaking-mazing, but clearly they fall into that dangerous collectible category of *not a toy*.
    I'm perfectly happy with my cartoon Silverhawks figures thanks!

  • @Mel-md6cb
    @Mel-md6cb 2 дні тому

    Dang. Quicksilver has got a massive noggin

  • @JMan1380
    @JMan1380 День тому

    I didn't have very many Silverhawks either...or Thundercats. My Mon-Star and Buzz Saw became stand-ins for mutated forms or any other monster characters I wanted. They usually fought Superman.

  • @MonstersOfTheUniverse
    @MonstersOfTheUniverse 3 дні тому +1

    They should have made the face a separate molded piece pvc or nylon part and the joints should’ve been pvc

    • @gianluca.pastorelli
      @gianluca.pastorelli 3 дні тому +2

      I think it's all pvc, that's why the vac metal layer doesn't stick

  • @drawingbyhand
    @drawingbyhand 2 дні тому

    Great review dan ive got steel heart haven't opened her yet.

  • @knightwalker317
    @knightwalker317 2 дні тому

    You should get the Ramen toy versions of Silver Hawks and see how those are !

  • @krp2nyte
    @krp2nyte 3 дні тому

    The gunmetal color of quicksilver has me passing on it.

  • @TightPantsJack
    @TightPantsJack 3 дні тому

    They still can't look up, can they?

  • @christencousins3843
    @christencousins3843 День тому

    Great video! I always thought there was a huge miscommunication between the fans and Super7. We didn't want vac metal, we wanted a silver Quicksilver. He was to grey! I love my animated hawks and will stick with them. Bring on the Copper Kid!

  • @PrivateAccountXSG
    @PrivateAccountXSG 2 дні тому

    Plenty of old toys had chrome and are still just fine today... and they weren't obscenely expensive. Just dont put chrome on articulating points. This entire line is a mess.

  • @nmecey699
    @nmecey699 2 дні тому

    My issue is we’ve gotten metal looking figures from Super7, Robotic Rocksteady, Shredder 2, Metalhead, etc. why could we not get that same plastic/paint application for the Cartoon Silver Hawks? I understand there’s different factories and Super7 uses quite a few depending on the line and how much they value the line itself, like we saw with the simpsons, they switched factories midway through the waves and the last couple figures while they still looked great had seriously loose joints, something I’d never dealt with to that degree with say my TMNT Ultimates…

  • @davidtaroyan
    @davidtaroyan 2 дні тому

    Been watching you for years and really love the same lines you do growing up in the 80s. Since you are close to guys from Super 7 , was wondering if you would ask them if they would make a My Pet Monster the same size plush from the 80s. Thanks

    • @sirdaveysockrocker
      @sirdaveysockrocker 2 дні тому

      Lol that’s so selfish. “HEY take advantage of your relationship to ask them to make something I want!” 🤣