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It was actually kind of a brilliant move on Homelander's part to take Ryan's desire to help people and twist it to support his humans are our toys narrative.
And it's exactly what Homelander worked through last episode. He was created and treated well by Vogelbaum who raised him for a good purpose, to be the world's strongest hero and help people - but the workers at Vought twisted it by treating him like a toy to abuse and laugh at. It's like the "cycle of abuse", always repeating
@@MasterKey2004 except it's entirely different as homelander is just teaching his son as a father compared to scientists trying to make homelander dependant on approval
Me and my friends were high as shit last night and that part broke us so much we had to pause, my friend next to me spit a shit load of soda all over the desk as well 😂
This episode all but confirmed for me that Kessler is in Butchers head, he probably died in that mission referenced at the start of the season and is the devil on Billy’s shoulder, kind of the opposite role Becca’s taking
I mean, he doesn't even have to be dead, it could just be that Kessler is very well alive somewhere and Butcher plainly didn't bother to contact him in those 11 years, but yeah, he definitely is the evil hallucination
Especially with how covert the team has to be now that they are working with the Defense Sec/ Potential President Canidate, I DOUBT Kessler would be able to know that much information about the team.
@@bignoseandrew I feel like the emotional stinger is that Butcher got the real Kessler killed by being his brutal self, and the hallucination embodies a guilt driven sunk cost fallacy driving him away from healing as a person.
First scene w Kessler, CIA lunchroom, Butcher pulls out a bottle and pours into two cups. Kessler never drinks. Samir looks confused at who Butcher is talking to. No other interactions between Kessler and anyone else
Yea, and kinda weird timing to appear there also, if he is real there, cos they drove away to that place etc, seems more weird if he would stalk they all the way there to not really do much.
This episode further demonstrated that Huey is rapidly becoming the Rick Grimes of the Boys universe--the man who must make the hard decisions and sacrifices to protect others, and who will get his hands dirty while also not losing his soul in the process.
An impeccable acting performance by Karl Urban, Simon Pegg and Jack Quaid. All our hearts were stolen.😭😭 Here you had it from this entire episode. Tension, anxiety, chaos, deaths and Frenchy giving themselves over.
Man, the scenes with Hughie's dad having memory loss and being afraid hit me real hard. After losing my dad to cancer a year ago and the rapid decline he went through beforehand, that part was especially emotional.
Yeah. Kinda reminds me of my grandma who passed away from cancer last year as well. It was rather sad seeing her lose energy as time went and while she was taking chemotherapy. Sorry for your loss
I think those tentacle creatures are the result of first the tumors created by temp v . Then the tumors not butcher , (or the rabbit in this case) get enhanced by full V making a venom like symbiote
The parasite in Butcher is clearly steering him in a certain direction. First Becca appearing, then Kessler shortly after. This episode just proved to me that Kessler is one as well. I think if Butcher gets his hands on more of the virus the parasite is gonna take action or something like that.
I went back to watch ep.1 when Kessler first showed up in the CIA building, and there's a shot where Butcher pours Kessler a drink, but Kessler never drinks it. Probably the first tease that Kessler may not be there.
I really hope Sister Sage turns out to be a double agent, so smart that she's destroying the Seven from the inside. Only problem I see with that is Homelander will see through it and kill her before she has a chance to fully take them down.
He’s not that smart. She compared him to Ceasar when they first met and his only take away from that was that Ceasar manipulated others to put him in power. Homelander forgets he will share the same fate as Ceasar.
Not a bad theory honestly, I feel like if they’re going in that direction the thing that will go wrong is Sage underestimating Homelander’s intelligence. And considering what happened to people that lied to Honelander in the past… yeeeeah, ain’t looking good.
She was introduced as 'the one person who has the much needed wider perspective', she gets how various systems of power ultimately fail. She 1000% would see Vought and particularly their out-of-anyones-control Homelander as "a dysfuctional element that needs fixing".
@migek I kinda want them to go through with it, honestly. But I feel he's gonna change his mind himself, maybe. I don't really wanna see that. I want Hughie to be the one to stop him, like in the comics.
Simon Pegg’s performance left me shattered! The Temp V effects and his character’s stroke-induced mental decline made for a heart-wrenchingly bleak performance. He absolutely crushed it!
To me it’s like watching it with a friend. Even if you have friends, they might not be into all the same stuff as you so it’s nice to hear discussion on a thing you really like.
i wonder if Hughie’s just at a point where A-train is the least of his worries. his mission went from avenging Robin to killing Homelander and stopping Neuman from becoming president. maybe he’s just ready to let the A-train shit go because it’s holding him back
I’m 💯convinced Kessler is a hallucination. I also think the hallucinations Butcher is having is the sup/monster inside of him, convincing him to do whatever it wants.
Definitely not. It'd be one thing if he destroyed a Supe with it, but the only things he destroyed this ep were things that could've just been weaker than his V'd up body.
6:40 That is SUCH a great insult and i'll never use it because that word doesn't sit right with me. If only i were british or australian... 12:35 I found it so grimly funny (and a bit too real) how the two white guys on stage talk about supporting and amplifying BIPOC-voices, while the only one on stage not getting to say anything is the black guy. 16:49 They poked so much fun at comic book movies and shared cinematic universes in general and especially Disney and the MCU with all of those scenes of the "V52"... and those "Nirvanha-soundtrack"- and "sequence in complete darkness"-comment hit their batshaped mark, too. 12:46 My reaction to most of the troubles the Boys and their group got into in this episode - why did Newman not just pop the heads of all those animals? It worked on the one chicken. 22:52 Fancy seeing you here, Dr. Pershing. So, apparently that guy's got all the "brilliant and probably well-meaning scientiest who's unknowingly doing some really evil sh*t with his research"-roles covered, huh? 30:09 That's actually pretty genius. Didn't even occur to me, but it's true. I mean, just in the beginning of this episode, him an Butcher were meeting on a park bench. Not the best place to do highly confidential CIA-stuff, as Butcher himself noted. But of course it would be a lot safer if all those plans were just made in Butcher's head. Wouldn't even be surprised if that was the bench that Becca was sitting on before she disappeared. So Jeffrey Dean Morgan is probably the devil on Butcher's shoulder, advising him to do the screwed-up stuff - dosing Ryan, taking him, making him a weapon -, as opposed to Becca's angel, who wants him to persevere or be good. That is definitely it.
This episode had all the feel of a mid-season finale. Every main storyline had a conclusion or was a cliffhanger. No fat on the bones with this show. Some studio is going to be spending a fortune to get Kripke to showrun when his Boys run is finished. He's got a great feel between episodic and season long arc. Most creating streaming shows don't understand how to create a standalone show.
It's crazy, how in a story where death is such a common occurance that we're almost desensitized to it, we still get episodes like this one, where there's one that just gets people crying
The title in the MCU parody yall couldn't read was "homelander vs soldier boy: Annihilation" - Also Teenage Kix included A-train, pop claw, sister sage, & mesmir as members
The surest sign that Homelander is losing it (more than before) is he doesn't care Coleman is telling the truth. Before, telling when people aren't being truthful is his whole thing and he appreciates truth, even when he can't forgive. Since he "cleansed" himself, he doesn't even seem to notice that Coleman is obviously telling the truth when he begs for his life.
I noticed a JDM not interacting with anyone from the start and this episode seems to solidify it... but I think since it has been done a bunch, this is actually some manifestation of Butcher's "parasite" that makes him see JDM's character and Becca and I expect there will be at least 1 more character that he'll "see."
Seeing Hughie in that one scene....it didn't break me like the few shows/movies I've seen that made me feel something....but damn it was believable. Jack Quaid is insanely talented.
I've suspected Kesslers was not real since week 1. Man who is hallucinating starts having isolated conversations with an old friend who tells him to give in to all his worst impulses? No way he's real.
I've definitely gotten more and more suspicious of Joe. In addition to never talking to anybody else or really interacting with his environment. He seems to want to isolate butcher making it clear that it should just be "the two of them" working together. He also just know too many specific personal things about the emotional status of the boys which seems weird. And he just feels like the antithesis to Becca, kind of like the devil on butchers shoulder whole Becca is the Angel. It feels like everytime butcher listens to Becca and does the right thing but then still gets rejected by the boy he starts to lean more and more into doing what Joe wants aka "the wrong thing". Idk that last scene especially just felt off. Something's not right
I'm thinking Negan(Joe) is a hallucination also. We never see him interact with anyone but Butcher. They're pulling a Beautiful Mind on us. Later they'll probably reveal Joe's been dead for years.
I'm a little annoyed that the team does not want to acknowledge butchers positive actions at all. They're so stuck in not giving him anymore chances that they kind of make the situation worse. Everytime butcher does the right thing he gets rebuffed. He tells them the truth about his health everyone gets mad. He does the right thing with Ryan and tells mm and gets told that is doesn't matter. He doesn't take Newman's deal but everyone's just mad that the possibility of that deal even existed. And i feel like butcher feels so alone and rejected at this point that he's given up on trying to be better. He's lost his last chance doing the right thing hasn't gotten him anywhere so now he's fully leaning into the dark side (Joe?) which is probably a lot worse than the worst we've seen of him so far.
I sort of understand you. Butcher in the first half of this season has been putting an effort to improve and be a reliable friend, yet those who saw the worst of him in the past can't simply take it now. I just hope the "good side" (Becca) comes back to him giving him back to his senses before he does something unrepairable.
This probably seems minor in the grand scheme of things, but I’m really curious what’s gonna happen with the vought intentional UA-cam channel after what happened with Coleman. And if anyone didn’t know that existed, I recommend checking it out.
I would really like the know how the show expects us to believe that Butcher was able to not only nab that guy but also cut off his leg without him screaming in the span of a few minutes. Particularly when he was with everyone the scene before they cut to them running out.
Okay, so I don’t have a good track record with guesses like this and this show, but I’m guessing JDM’s character isn’t real at this point. He only ever appears with Butcher, and at times he’ll just be there in a scene with Butcher and not be shown walking in or anything, he’s just with him. I think he’s the devil on his shoulder to the angel that is Becca. Trying to get him to do stuff like kidnap Ryan last episode, or kidnap the doctor in this one. Anyway, we’ll probably find out eventually and I’m not going to be upset if I’m wrong, but it’s starting to really feel that way.
I know plenty of characters appear in a scene with each other without them showing up in the scene, but they’re established characters in that they have been shown solo and in scenes with other characters. JDM is *only* ever with Butcher. He’s never on his own, and he’s never with anybody else. Nor do they *ever* show him coming into the scene. He’s just there.
I really don't know what to think about this show anymore... I still enjoy it quite a lot but some scenes are just so weird and seem so uncharacteristic... This is a show that has both incredible narrative potential, incredible actors, fantastic effects, a great story about the dangers of totalitarianism (specially in our days) and a great production, but the writing Is getting so off topic... We used to have a great mix of comedy and serious, deep writing. Now we have a weird mix of about 35% significant writing with an overwhelming 65% of nonsense... I fear this show is turning into game of thrones season 8...
I firmly believe that the Parasite within Butcher is the Boys version of the Venom Symbiote. Temp V creates a parasite within the body that grants superpowers, but with each dose, you feed the parasite, you make it stronger. If you do only a dose or two, the parasite will eventually starve and die. However, one dose too many, and the parasite becomes strong enough to survive. Butcher's Parasite not only is alive, but is also powered by real V, and is now a thinking, methodical creature. It likes Butcher, it doesn't want to kill him like the other one did to the rabbit, but it wants to understand Butcher as well, to know how it can help Butcher. So the creature speaks to Butcher, pushing him in different directions to figure out what kind of person he is, appearing as both Becca and Kessler. The parasite is protective of Butcher, and I doubt it will let him go...
Frenchie's delivery this episode and facial expressions are Oscar worthy imo🤣🤣🤣 Also I realllllly don't understand why Newman isn't just poppin' heads left and right. She could easily take out multiple targets at once...am I fuckin' missing something here
Pretty funny how this episode had a pointed meta humor dig at Disney D23/Disney+ and 3 of the actors in this episode (Giancarlo Esposito, Omid Abtahi, Simon Pegg) are in Star Wars.
I'm with Aaron. But it got me even worse. 😅 Couldn't stop repeating "this man is in no condition to fuck a sheep" for two minutes while crying from laughter. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Completely lost it.
Yes, this episode was particularly hard for those of us who have lost our fathers, especially to some sort of degenerative disease. I'm glad they had the juxtaposition of the V-ed up animals to break it up.
37:33 well, it's been shown that compound V acts similarly to steroids, in the idea that while enhancing performance, it also causes impulsive and violent behaviour, also known as roid rage. Hugh Sr., who wouldn't hurt a fly, wanted to kill Daphne and his son, after deliberatelly killing that security guard. The sheep and the rest of the animals as well wanted to kill.
Never mind the Bollocks... Butcher said that. Isn't that an album name of the Sex Pistols? We've had some Sex Pistols songs in the show, are there more references?
Super powered chickens that can burst through a human chest but they can't get through a wooden barn door. That and the sheep also being stopped by a barn door really bugged me. Almost as bad as liquid nitrogen fire extinguishers...
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Was Frenchie referring to the suped up hamster in Russia or something else he went thru. 🤣
It was actually kind of a brilliant move on Homelander's part to take Ryan's desire to help people and twist it to support his humans are our toys narrative.
And it's exactly what Homelander worked through last episode. He was created and treated well by Vogelbaum who raised him for a good purpose, to be the world's strongest hero and help people - but the workers at Vought twisted it by treating him like a toy to abuse and laugh at. It's like the "cycle of abuse", always repeating
He’s a hypocrite, he’s doing exactly what the psychologists did to him
@@MasterKey2004well he learned from the best 😂
Diabolical!
@@MasterKey2004 except it's entirely different as homelander is just teaching his son as a father compared to scientists trying to make homelander dependant on approval
“Off we fuck” 🤣
"That's the pardon we need" okay Aaron de bepo
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"This man is in no condition to fuck a sheep" will be my most repeated quote from this show moving forward. I knew this instantly.
I had to pause the episode cause I was laughing so hard
That's a shirt waiting to happen.
Me and my friends were high as shit last night and that part broke us so much we had to pause, my friend next to me spit a shit load of soda all over the desk as well 😂
The delivery was flawless
Idk what happens to Frenchie after this episode but they better not can him because his lines are the best
Simon Peggs performance broke me i was balling my eyes out
your eyes: 🏀⛹️
Bawling
yah he better be filming shaun of the dead 2 . thats the reason hes outta the US n back to UK
@@crdude806its mission impossible he’s filming bro
I hated losing him but I'm glad they finally used a great actor like him for something more than a background character.
Seeing Hughie's dad in a state of panic and being confused is hard to look at 😞
"Funniest pet attacks" That's gotta be foreshadowing to the animals in the later half of the episode
This episode all but confirmed for me that Kessler is in Butchers head, he probably died in that mission referenced at the start of the season and is the devil on Billy’s shoulder, kind of the opposite role Becca’s taking
I mean, he doesn't even have to be dead, it could just be that Kessler is very well alive somewhere and Butcher plainly didn't bother to contact him in those 11 years, but yeah, he definitely is the evil hallucination
Especially with how covert the team has to be now that they are working with the Defense Sec/ Potential President Canidate, I DOUBT Kessler would be able to know that much information about the team.
@@bignoseandrew I feel like the emotional stinger is that Butcher got the real Kessler killed by being his brutal self, and the hallucination embodies a guilt driven sunk cost fallacy driving him away from healing as a person.
Yeah it's been all over the internet. for days.
Also when butcher is kneeling down talking to Sameer and his back is turned you don't see Kessler standing there
First scene w Kessler, CIA lunchroom, Butcher pulls out a bottle and pours into two cups. Kessler never drinks. Samir looks confused at who Butcher is talking to. No other interactions between Kessler and anyone else
so you’re saying he might be hallucinating
@@CJ-nu7dp No, they’re saying Joe is definitely a hallucination. How can some people not see that?
At this point, I think it’d be a great twist if Joe was just some real dude
The alcohol didn’t go on the table tho.
Yea, and kinda weird timing to appear there also, if he is real there, cos they drove away to that place etc, seems more weird if he would stalk they all the way there to not really do much.
Simon Pegg was actually referencing the comics with that Paris line. Then the Wee Hughie line, what a way to send him off.
Because unlike its audience the show respects the comics
Is that line in the comics?
@@johndinner4418 In the comics, the boys usually call Hughie “Wee Hughie” as a sort of nickname
Eric - "Is he not there?" You got me rethinking life. That makes so much sense now.
Took you this long??
@@moviesbye9294 "ToOk YoU tHiS lOnG?!"
It’s been pretty obvious that Joe is another hallucination from Butcher. He’s basically the demon on Butcher’s shoulder with Becca being the angel.
At this point, I think it’d be a great twist if Joe was just some real dude
@@kc1john I can't watch the Boys normally, between this and clips on UA-cam is my only access. And I haven't seen a lot of Joe.
This episode further demonstrated that Huey is rapidly becoming the Rick Grimes of the Boys universe--the man who must make the hard decisions and sacrifices to protect others, and who will get his hands dirty while also not losing his soul in the process.
An impeccable acting performance by Karl Urban, Simon Pegg and Jack Quaid. All our hearts were stolen.😭😭 Here you had it from this entire episode. Tension, anxiety, chaos, deaths and Frenchy giving themselves over.
Man, the scenes with Hughie's dad having memory loss and being afraid hit me real hard. After losing my dad to cancer a year ago and the rapid decline he went through beforehand, that part was especially emotional.
Yeah. Kinda reminds me of my grandma who passed away from cancer last year as well. It was rather sad seeing her lose energy as time went and while she was taking chemotherapy. Sorry for your loss
I'm thinking the tentacle creature in the Temp V bunny is the same thing in Butcher, but boosted with regular V.
I think those tentacle creatures are the result of first the tumors created by temp v . Then the tumors not butcher , (or the rabbit in this case) get enhanced by full V making a venom like symbiote
@@macfineyes exactly
The shots at the MCU were hilarious.
They were also aimed at the fans/audience
@@augxmanThe true enemy.
I was hoping they made fun of Disney and they didn't disappoint!!
The parasite in Butcher is clearly steering him in a certain direction. First Becca appearing, then Kessler shortly after. This episode just proved to me that Kessler is one as well. I think if Butcher gets his hands on more of the virus the parasite is gonna take action or something like that.
Did I miss something that indicated Kessler wasn't real either?
@@red_crow584
no one is in any room when Butch is talking to Kessler
@@Ziaoticdidn't Kessler supposedly give Butcher the drugs to roofie Ryan with though?
@@PAULISTER-
that could've been Butcher who just isn't consciously doing these actions
@@red_crow584the doctor at the end clearly can't see him
29:48 his eyes dart around a little and he looks confused, butcher is 100% imagining him
The guys didn't notice Tek Knight saying "It's been a WHOLE year.." and "The Tek Knight plumbs a WHOLE new pit of darkness".
Why the emphasis on "whole", what am I not getting?
@@billbill6094 Don't you remember Tek Knight's hole fetish?
@@billbill6094 in Gen V, it was revealed he likes to get it on with anything that resembles a bodily orifice...LOL
I went back to watch ep.1 when Kessler first showed up in the CIA building, and there's a shot where Butcher pours Kessler a drink, but Kessler never drinks it. Probably the first tease that Kessler may not be there.
Moff gideon and dr pershing working together in every universe
Oh Kessler is definitely not real, he’s like the anti-Becca. Like she’s the angel on Butcher’s shoulder and Kessler is the devil on the other
I really hope Sister Sage turns out to be a double agent, so smart that she's destroying the Seven from the inside. Only problem I see with that is Homelander will see through it and kill her before she has a chance to fully take them down.
He’s not that smart. She compared him to Ceasar when they first met and his only take away from that was that Ceasar manipulated others to put him in power. Homelander forgets he will share the same fate as Ceasar.
Not a bad theory honestly, I feel like if they’re going in that direction the thing that will go wrong is Sage underestimating Homelander’s intelligence. And considering what happened to people that lied to Honelander in the past… yeeeeah, ain’t looking good.
She was introduced as 'the one person who has the much needed wider perspective', she gets how various systems of power ultimately fail.
She 1000% would see Vought and particularly their out-of-anyones-control Homelander as "a dysfuctional element that needs fixing".
That ending with butcher tho DAMN
He’s going off the rails same as HL
It seems they're going the comics route here, which I'm glad because that was a pretty good twist.
@@erikpng yeah it seems so! Not a lot of ppl are talking about it eother
@migek I kinda want them to go through with it, honestly. But I feel he's gonna change his mind himself, maybe. I don't really wanna see that. I want Hughie to be the one to stop him, like in the comics.
Butcher on his A game this episode!😈
He took the phrase "break a leg" a bit too seriously.
I can't be Hughie's dad's last words was "Tom Hanks"
T-Hanks
@@Andrew1990M WHY???????? MUST YOU TEAR MY HEART OUT LIKE HE DID TO THAT DOCTOR
Simon Pegg’s performance left me shattered! The Temp V effects and his character’s stroke-induced mental decline made for a heart-wrenchingly bleak performance. He absolutely crushed it!
That wasn't Temp-V is was full Compound-V
Ahh Dr. Pershing and Moff Gideon reunited at last
We just need Mando to make appearance
Pedro pascal as a supe who can summon green babies with magic@@doctorstrangethesorcerersu7636
@@doctorstrangethesorcerersu7636 Pretty much
I’m always glad to watch these reactions because it feels like I’m watching with someone kinda like watching in a theater.
To me it’s like watching it with a friend. Even if you have friends, they might not be into all the same stuff as you so it’s nice to hear discussion on a thing you really like.
@@MS-vi9ug Exactly what I tell people who think watching reactors is lame
I agree a lot of people don’t appreciate watching reactors
@@C2HGamingI believe 👏🏼👏🏼
@@lonewolf604 And that's exactly the kinda thing that would creep those people out lol
23:27 i love how this joke just broke Aaron
This episode absolutely wrecked me, Simon Pegg and Jack Quaid ate their scenes the fuck up
Korean Jesus and Frenchie's "This man is in no condition to pork a sheep." are now my favorite Aaron reactions
LMAO
i wonder if Hughie’s just at a point where A-train is the least of his worries. his mission went from avenging Robin to killing Homelander and stopping Neuman from becoming president. maybe he’s just ready to let the A-train shit go because it’s holding him back
Butcher's storyline is super interesting for sure, i thought the same about Kessler. Cant wait to see where it goes
Simon Pegg did such incredible performance, I cried like a baby, RIP Hugh Senior
I knew Eric as a Farmer would appreciate this episode.
All I could think of when Firecracker was talking to the jesus statue was "Leave korean jesus alone! He's busy!"
"WITH KOREAN SHIT!"
With Korean shit
"With Korean shit!" 🤣🤣
I got that.
"He ain't got time for yo problems!"
I’m 💯convinced Kessler is a hallucination. I also think the hallucinations Butcher is having is the sup/monster inside of him, convincing him to do whatever it wants.
Simon passing away really fkng got me. I cried like a baby 😢. That’s the first time I’ve ever cried for this show
Simon Pegg also made me cry in The World’s End. The guy is amazing!
It’s nice that Hughie’s dad gave him the nickname ‘Wee Hughie’. That’s his call sign in the comics, and it’s cool little Easter Egg.
That's some crazy use of intangibility. It destroys the things he's in with no harm to himself. He could've probably killed Homelander with that.
Definitely not. It'd be one thing if he destroyed a Supe with it, but the only things he destroyed this ep were things that could've just been weaker than his V'd up body.
6:40 That is SUCH a great insult and i'll never use it because that word doesn't sit right with me. If only i were british or australian...
12:35 I found it so grimly funny (and a bit too real) how the two white guys on stage talk about supporting and amplifying BIPOC-voices, while the only one on stage not getting to say anything is the black guy.
16:49 They poked so much fun at comic book movies and shared cinematic universes in general and especially Disney and the MCU with all of those scenes of the "V52"... and those "Nirvanha-soundtrack"- and "sequence in complete darkness"-comment hit their batshaped mark, too.
12:46 My reaction to most of the troubles the Boys and their group got into in this episode - why did Newman not just pop the heads of all those animals? It worked on the one chicken.
22:52 Fancy seeing you here, Dr. Pershing. So, apparently that guy's got all the "brilliant and probably well-meaning scientiest who's unknowingly doing some really evil sh*t with his research"-roles covered, huh?
30:09 That's actually pretty genius. Didn't even occur to me, but it's true. I mean, just in the beginning of this episode, him an Butcher were meeting on a park bench. Not the best place to do highly confidential CIA-stuff, as Butcher himself noted. But of course it would be a lot safer if all those plans were just made in Butcher's head. Wouldn't even be surprised if that was the bench that Becca was sitting on before she disappeared. So Jeffrey Dean Morgan is probably the devil on Butcher's shoulder, advising him to do the screwed-up stuff - dosing Ryan, taking him, making him a weapon -, as opposed to Becca's angel, who wants him to persevere or be good. That is definitely it.
My mom has terminal cancer right now and all I’m going to say is this episode was a lot
I was just about to go to bed in my time in the uk. But a Blind wave reaction is always a reason to stay up.
Same but im 1 hour further
I haven't really been feeling the Hughie story this season but damn if that last scene with his dad didn't get me
This episode had all the feel of a mid-season finale. Every main storyline had a conclusion or was a cliffhanger. No fat on the bones with this show. Some studio is going to be spending a fortune to get Kripke to showrun when his Boys run is finished. He's got a great feel between episodic and season long arc. Most creating streaming shows don't understand how to create a standalone show.
Why didnt Neuman just pop the heads of the other animals?
It's crazy, how in a story where death is such a common occurance that we're almost desensitized to it, we still get episodes like this one, where there's one that just gets people crying
love the lighting in this!
When the Farm Animals started to Gore and Ramming through people to death it cut off me offguard like for real it was unexpected
The title in the MCU parody yall couldn't read was
"homelander vs soldier boy: Annihilation"
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Also Teenage Kix included A-train, pop claw, sister sage, & mesmir as members
The surest sign that Homelander is losing it (more than before) is he doesn't care Coleman is telling the truth. Before, telling when people aren't being truthful is his whole thing and he appreciates truth, even when he can't forgive. Since he "cleansed" himself, he doesn't even seem to notice that Coleman is obviously telling the truth when he begs for his life.
I lost my dad at a young age. The stuff with Hughie and his dad was equally horrifying and tragic. I felt so bad for the Dad.
nobody is there. Hughie is in a coma and it's all in his head, lol.
I lost my dad at a young age. The stuff with Hughie and his dad was equally horrifying and tragic. I felt so bad for the Dad.
What would your dad think of you selling your body online
I noticed a JDM not interacting with anyone from the start and this episode seems to solidify it... but I think since it has been done a bunch, this is actually some manifestation of Butcher's "parasite" that makes him see JDM's character and Becca and I expect there will be at least 1 more character that he'll "see."
I was thinking the same thing. I noticed no one else has acknowledged him. Like Becca is the angel on his shoulder and JDM the devil.
@@mvghydra442exactly cause the virus will kill the one person Butcher actually gives af about; Ryan while Becca is tryna get him to save him
Seeing Hughie in that one scene....it didn't break me like the few shows/movies I've seen that made me feel something....but damn it was believable. Jack Quaid is insanely talented.
I lost my dad 5 years ago so this episode hit hard. Great performance by Simon Pegg as well.
Simon Pegg was the highlight of the episode for me, brilliant actor
"A 12 minute sequence that's entirely pitch black" was a joke at Game of Thrones I'm pretty sure.
Most deaths in The Boys are shocking or gory, but they really nail the emotional ones too. First Becca, then Hughie Sr. They got me, man.
Man, I've never seen Calvin wipe his eyes like that.
Dont forget that A-Train and Sage were teammates a while ago. Could be that Sage is saving A-Train coz she likes him or something like that.
Doctor who works for giancarlo in Mando and the Boys seems like a good gig for that actor
29:49 yupp he is not there, you can only see him with butcher and nobody else, he can be butcher's hallucinations or his venom symbiote 😂😂😂😂
I've suspected Kesslers was
not real since week 1. Man who is hallucinating starts having isolated conversations with an old friend who tells him to give in to all his worst impulses? No way he's real.
Omid Abtahi out here playing a scientist who works for Giancarlo Esposito... again. First in the Mandalorian and now here.
I've definitely gotten more and more suspicious of Joe. In addition to never talking to anybody else or really interacting with his environment. He seems to want to isolate butcher making it clear that it should just be "the two of them" working together. He also just know too many specific personal things about the emotional status of the boys which seems weird. And he just feels like the antithesis to Becca, kind of like the devil on butchers shoulder whole Becca is the Angel. It feels like everytime butcher listens to Becca and does the right thing but then still gets rejected by the boy he starts to lean more and more into doing what Joe wants aka "the wrong thing". Idk that last scene especially just felt off. Something's not right
Simon Pegg everyone get him Karl Urban and Anthony Star all of the awards
So can someone explain to me why Newman can blow up the chickens but not the sheep?
I'm thinking Negan(Joe) is a hallucination also. We never see him interact with anyone but Butcher. They're pulling a Beautiful Mind on us. Later they'll probably reveal Joe's been dead for years.
negan is in his mind...just like everyone else he sees i think .to see simon pegg go..he better be making shaun of the dead 2.
I can safely say that i would love to see simon pegg in more drama films because my god, his performance here was heartbreaking.
19:24 why’s no one talking about how his dad pulled a reverse flash 😭
Hughie's dad :(
I'm a little annoyed that the team does not want to acknowledge butchers positive actions at all. They're so stuck in not giving him anymore chances that they kind of make the situation worse. Everytime butcher does the right thing he gets rebuffed. He tells them the truth about his health everyone gets mad. He does the right thing with Ryan and tells mm and gets told that is doesn't matter. He doesn't take Newman's deal but everyone's just mad that the possibility of that deal even existed. And i feel like butcher feels so alone and rejected at this point that he's given up on trying to be better. He's lost his last chance doing the right thing hasn't gotten him anywhere so now he's fully leaning into the dark side (Joe?) which is probably a lot worse than the worst we've seen of him so far.
I sort of understand you. Butcher in the first half of this season has been putting an effort to improve and be a reliable friend, yet those who saw the worst of him in the past can't simply take it now. I just hope the "good side" (Becca) comes back to him giving him back to his senses before he does something unrepairable.
This episode definitely made it obvious that Kessler's in Butcher's head.
This probably seems minor in the grand scheme of things, but I’m really curious what’s gonna happen with the vought intentional UA-cam channel after what happened with Coleman. And if anyone didn’t know that existed, I recommend checking it out.
that says "Homelander vs Soldier Boy: Annihilation"
Most extreme range of emotions an episode of anything has made me feel for a while.
I would really like the know how the show expects us to believe that Butcher was able to not only nab that guy but also cut off his leg without him screaming in the span of a few minutes. Particularly when he was with everyone the scene before they cut to them running out.
Probably during the offscreen time that they had to call for reinforcements?
Okay, so I don’t have a good track record with guesses like this and this show, but I’m guessing JDM’s character isn’t real at this point. He only ever appears with Butcher, and at times he’ll just be there in a scene with Butcher and not be shown walking in or anything, he’s just with him. I think he’s the devil on his shoulder to the angel that is Becca. Trying to get him to do stuff like kidnap Ryan last episode, or kidnap the doctor in this one.
Anyway, we’ll probably find out eventually and I’m not going to be upset if I’m wrong, but it’s starting to really feel that way.
I know plenty of characters appear in a scene with each other without them showing up in the scene, but they’re established characters in that they have been shown solo and in scenes with other characters. JDM is *only* ever with Butcher. He’s never on his own, and he’s never with anybody else. Nor do they *ever* show him coming into the scene. He’s just there.
I really don't know what to think about this show anymore... I still enjoy it quite a lot but some scenes are just so weird and seem so uncharacteristic...
This is a show that has both incredible narrative potential, incredible actors, fantastic effects, a great story about the dangers of totalitarianism (specially in our days) and a great production, but the writing Is getting so off topic...
We used to have a great mix of comedy and serious, deep writing. Now we have a weird mix of about 35% significant writing with an overwhelming 65% of nonsense...
I fear this show is turning into game of thrones season 8...
I firmly believe that the Parasite within Butcher is the Boys version of the Venom Symbiote.
Temp V creates a parasite within the body that grants superpowers, but with each dose, you feed the parasite, you make it stronger. If you do only a dose or two, the parasite will eventually starve and die.
However, one dose too many, and the parasite becomes strong enough to survive.
Butcher's Parasite not only is alive, but is also powered by real V, and is now a thinking, methodical creature.
It likes Butcher, it doesn't want to kill him like the other one did to the rabbit, but it wants to understand Butcher as well, to know how it can help Butcher.
So the creature speaks to Butcher, pushing him in different directions to figure out what kind of person he is, appearing as both Becca and Kessler.
The parasite is protective of Butcher, and I doubt it will let him go...
I love that the pet was called Jar Jar. You guys should check out the rant by Simon Pegg in spaced! Definitely a call back 😂😂😂
Did Cate regrow her arm?
Frenchie's delivery this episode and facial expressions are Oscar worthy imo🤣🤣🤣
Also I realllllly don't understand why Newman isn't just poppin' heads left and right. She could easily take out multiple targets at once...am I fuckin' missing something here
the credit song took me out
Pretty funny how this episode had a pointed meta humor dig at Disney D23/Disney+ and 3 of the actors in this episode (Giancarlo Esposito, Omid Abtahi, Simon Pegg) are in Star Wars.
I'm with Aaron. But it got me even worse. 😅 Couldn't stop repeating "this man is in no condition to fuck a sheep" for two minutes while crying from laughter. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Completely lost it.
What if "Jeffrey Dean Morgan" isn't real like Becca? He hasn't been seen with anyone else 🤷♂️
I assume the Firecracker movies are like the God's Not Dead of this universe.
Yes, this episode was particularly hard for those of us who have lost our fathers, especially to some sort of degenerative disease. I'm glad they had the juxtaposition of the V-ed up animals to break it up.
37:33 well, it's been shown that compound V acts similarly to steroids, in the idea that while enhancing performance, it also causes impulsive and violent behaviour, also known as roid rage. Hugh Sr., who wouldn't hurt a fly, wanted to kill Daphne and his son, after deliberatelly killing that security guard. The sheep and the rest of the animals as well wanted to kill.
Still don't know what Frenchie's answer was to "where is Colin", sounds like "Schiphol" to me. But what is it !? Wtf is Shipple ?
Never mind the Bollocks... Butcher said that. Isn't that an album name of the Sex Pistols? We've had some Sex Pistols songs in the show, are there more references?
Once you guys started tearing up during Hughie’s conversation with Hugh, I said to myself “They’re not going to make it through that goodbye scene.” 😢
Super powered chickens that can burst through a human chest but they can't get through a wooden barn door. That and the sheep also being stopped by a barn door really bugged me. Almost as bad as liquid nitrogen fire extinguishers...