Jagex, Please Let Us Into This Bot Busting World!
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I feel like a lot of these bot busting events focus on the low hanging fruit type of bots. Jagex should enter the Nex dungeon, for example, and ban those bots crashing worlds. They're easily spottable when KC'ing the ancient minions, most of them with similar stats, armor, and 1k+ Nex KC. Focus on the bots farming high-level content that produce the current highest gp/hr.
Its all just a publicity stunt because they clearly dont do much to stop the bots
@@DustinJames-mk1gl why would they? they probably get a kickback.
@devynyates1929
That's not what I'm saying
What I mean is that to make the game (and thereby the company) look better, they want to give off the impression that their bot busting abilities are better than they actually are
They could easily just spare 100 detected botters from bans until they make their streams
Those aren't necessarily bots that were newly found
@@devynyates1929
The incentive is that jagex wants to retain their playerbase, and the majority of us are against bots
So they need to downplay how many bots there are and inflate their stated detection rates.
@@DustinJames-mk1gl That's a huge assumption to make
They seriously need to stop messing around and get some actual Customer Service. There is *zero* things you can do about a False Ban.
Unless you’re known or have connections, you’re screwed. And no one ever believes they happen until it happens to you, sadly.
dude I have been trying to get a jmod to look into mine for like 4 years now they honestly just ignore us
This^
Yeah but they won’t
Yup i got a false macroing perm ban on my range pure that made me stop playing for like two years
@@dscvered Yeah, it happened to me on October 15th 2023. I haven’t played since, and I use to play (literally) all day every day.
Their loss. 🤷♂️
You know what I want? Some feedback/confirmation that my Reports have lead to a bot being busted. Make that shit a high scores list even
Bots Busted: 3,145. Rank: 2.
Then jagex would have to actually care about the bots. Problem is they don't wanna lose 75% of their revenue.
yesss i've been thinking about this for months now, even just a chat message on login when an account you've reported has been banned would be enough for me
@@Foaplo Don't they just buy membership with gp tho? Since they make so much anyway. That only increase the price of bonds ingame.
@@waterzoip And who buys the bond to sell on AH? Real player.
@@Carnivorew You bugged me out with the AH, auction house lol
Yea I guess so, bonds did triple in price compared to 2020 so yea, botters are buying them like crazy.
At least one "good thing" for real players I guess.
I think Jagex should gamify bot reporting. Like we get fashionscape rewards for how many bots we’ve correctly reported. Or maybe access to something like bot busting worlds
Ah but that's the thing.
If players could get rewards by reporting bots, then botfarms would center around themselves about reporting other bots in their competitions bot farms to farm rewards from those bots for those rewards.
this would encourage a ton of false reports as well, clogging up the system and slowing down the rate at which actual bots are banned
Bot busting level 99 skillcape would be LEGIT
My bot detector plugin on runelite has like 5k confirmed bans.
@Luigi_Main3752 not if there's fashionscape non tradeable items or like a new animation or emote something not over powered ...
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I mean Factor makes sense for some people. I was subbed for about a year and thought it was nice to not have to plan what to eat every week, a box just showed up every Tuesday and all I had to do was put it in my fridge.
With that said, I still wouldn't recommend Factor. I was going on vacation and wanted to cancel my sub temporarily. When realizing you could only pause it for a few weeks before it would auto resume and that you literally had to call in to their hotline to cancel it I just went ahead and cancelled permanently. Wasn't going to give a company that pulls tactics like that any more of my money
@@lyyks9452But how was the food though
Lmaaaaoooooo
fr, I was kinda meh'd out after seeing him advertising microwave meals
The cannon base on the bots is for red xing bandos & or zammy in the 6:0 method (a method which you take 0 damage) They're not using a full cannon, just the base to get a red x (Can do it with dropped stuff too but you risk picking it up by accident).
yeah well known popular method made by proper player but bots just copied it i think.
pretty funny seeing bots in the comments for a video about bots
Nice try bot
Uh, …am, ..am I a bot? 🤖
Were we the bots we made along the way all along?
Jagex is not doing enough, not even close. They really need to clean up the hiscores. Anyone can go check all the boss hiscores and see there are obvious bots holding some of the highest ranks.
the game is very simple: people like PK so they buy coins from the internet, from botters, the boters make bots who have payed membership sometimes, so jagex is making money from bots, they dont really care even botters buy coins from botters probably, so they can gear up their bots and compete in the botting game :D
the last like year or 2 they 100% stopped banning as many bots. theres so many obvious 200m thieving bots at vyres. i truly believe they dont ban bots cuz they buy membership
@@thedon1262 tbf the price of gp from bonds is very close to rwt now.
They never will. If they remove bots all together, the population will drop by like 75% lmao.
@@TheJasonboteler this is true sadly
Jagex shouldn't give us access to this world because then botters could use data they get from this world to find out which types of bots get banned the most.
Botters are already in the worlds...
still think the good outweighs the bad tbh
I can tell you right now, as a bot writer, they know. Many competent bot writers collect ban data already. I know one who works with an anti-bot data scientist to collect, parse, and interpret the data to lower ban rates for his script. This anti-bot scientist works with various companies to fight bot attacks on websites and ironically uses his knowledge to make bots less bannable for osrs.
Do you not think a bot script writer knows which of their own accounts get banned the most?
@@bobmarley5454companies?
8:50 That lDaggo person I think was probably a player that turned to botting to finish maxing, they just didn't want to do Slayer. When they were seen on the stream, I looked them up - they were 200k XP off maxing, 2276 total, 98 slayer.
Lol botting one of the easiest skills
That would suck
The fact that bots go out of their way to bank in obsecure locations just goes to show that they are afraid of reports since they actually work.
I report around 20 tob bots and kept track of them, so far 10/20 have been banned within like 2 weeks of me reporting them. So if you want to combat bots as an average scaper, just report them since clearly it does work
the vorkath bot farm that trades mules multiple times daily at the g.e on world 308 and has quite literally over 100 vorkath bots in it would beg to differ, I reported every single one of their accounts over the past few weeks and not one of them has been banned, not a single one.
The bot busting streams are always so entertaining
I think those streams are pointless. It just proofs how they don't give a fck. Go look up those names from the high scores… They are all back in the game. None of them got actually banned because the appeal system, is operated by a robot, so they got appeals accepted and continue botting like nothing ever happened. So what is the point of these Streams??
Why would you go into that world for bots? Check any other world and they are full of bots 😂
They don’t wanna expose the game for how bad the bot problem is lol
@@Gematrinator if that's the case then they're doing a pretty bad job considering they're livestreaming it on twitch
@@scrung they’re literally going to no bot hotspots(spots that are actually over-run with bots on every world) for example. Rev caves..there’s 5 bots every spawn on every world. How about try getting rid of those farms? That are bringing in well over a billion gold per day at the least. Eh? How bout it? They won’t though like i said, because it exposes how bot ridden the game truly is. Which is why they do this on a whole entirely different world that nobody had access to.
@@scrung have you ever entered rev caves before, mate? Everytime i do i think why am i still playing this game? Although all i do now is pk, i feel sorry for the people still grinding out skills/xp/pvming
@@Gematrinator no haha sorry i havent. also, why if i may ask?
There’s 3 rev bots been doing the same walk for 10 hours now in w313 ge
Is there a way for a bot to be programmed to tell when someone is rightclicking it? I swear I often seen bots under myth's guild getting runite ore or running to wrath altar and idk if I'm just the slowest "lookup" clikcer or they just know to logout or worldup if anyone clicks on them in any way
No, there is no possible way for a bot script to know this. So it's likely a mix of coincidence, you being super slow & likely a tiny bit of paranoia on your end.
None that I can think of, but a lot of bots will log out instantly if another player comes within range of them. That's usually used to make wilderness content almost completely safe, but it could also be used to hide from other players to avoid reports.
dude i saw one of those rune helm bots at the start run through the woodcutting guild today, caught my attention cause the wierd gear
Lots of bots are successful underground because the hotspot checker doesn’t create a heat map for under the RS surface. One example is the F2P Ice Warrior Lair in South Falador.
sounds like the mod maker was lazy
Tbh I dont think the blood torva guy was hacked. I think the owner of the account got greedy and didnt think gigex would ban him for low level botting. Or he was just a fake ban to scare maxed main accounts from botting who think they'd never get banned or just to show the pubic gigex doesnt discriminate. The way they didnt notice him at first was sus af
how was it sus? i watched ir like 3 times to see him. there were far too many bots around to reliably spot every single one.
yeah theres a lot of mains that are high level that bot because they heard one dude say "jagex doesnt watch accounts with hundreds of hours for botting"
@@itsOZone 🤣
@@itsOZonemore like its just significantly harder to 100% say somebody is botting when a good chunk of their clicks are real
I'm pretty sure I saw one of the hosidius fruit stall bots die to a nearby lvl 2 woman. Not sure if that's part of the plan but I don't see how it could have happened on accident
I love how Jagex refuse to use runelite to easily show the total bank value at the end haha
That'd be so fun to have a bot-busting spectator world that you cannot interact with anyone but mods
just run a bot script and watch
there are a few hidden bots in hosidius. there's low level nearly 200m xp thieve at farmers beside stalls.
I mean the hcim with 99 str isnt insane its just someone that bonded and botted it on crabs or something to 99
Plus you can quite easily program a bot to complete practically any of the content in the game without any risk of death.
@@smilestheemo3365 yep
They're not using cannons. They're using a cannon base to red x on inside bandos.
I've been going for beaver at arctic pines lately and on almost every single world there is a bot in different d hides depending on level using Addy knives to train range on the yaks
These accounts weren't banned btw. I know quite a few people who were showcased in this video. Banks were wiped but they can still login to this day.
8:50 already unbanned ldaggo :D...They have stats for 100k bans etc but how many appeals?
he's still banned
@@sprungs you right. Was looking at LDaggo, another (maybe?) bot. Also ordinkia unbanned 2:07 also xladymorgana 2:27...etc etc (temp ban?)
When the mods do mass kills the loot add up into one tab! you can see it very well in the clip at fruit stalls. Single kills is like 5k cannonballs and 17-20m and mass kill was 50k cannonballs and 200m... Can also see it on the small island :D Makes no sense if bots from same farm go from 20m to 200m loot
Bott farm idea
Instead of banning them put them on a shadow world with out them knowing and allow the farm to continue let the market on the world function fictional to make them think the items they obtain by and sell away from the real economy...
Days or weeks could go by before they notice which is lost time and revenue for the botters
This is big brain
Except after the first time they'll just add a secondary bot that will check on other bots in the farm to confirm that they're still on the normal worlds. And thats if the bot owner doesn't want to just check them manually.
Also I dont think most bots wait days or weeks before muling their gold, so realistically it would probably stall for like 12-24 hours at most.
@smilestheemo3365 you would think it would depend on what bot farm
The little ones are one thing but there are guys runnings dozens or even hundreds of accounts so it's unlikely they can continiously check progress beyond simply seeing if it was running
The checker bot would have to have some way of reporting non contact as well and most of those bott programs are really basic
Granted there are a few which are fairly advanced, such as the TOB bots but those usually require a real person to check them anyway
Also to gather 10s of millions through farming it's unlikely they are checking them daily
running fairly efficiently revs would give you what 1 to 1.5m an hour?
So, to be able to collect 70 to 100 mil on hand on the account it's unlikely they are muling off that often
they should make a world that they transfer all of the bots to. that would be a cool and unique idea nobody has tried before
how come when they caught the blood torva dude, the items he was wearing didnt loot? also he would have pvm gear/ supplies/ resources in bank, only shows plats? or is it only the items that were aquired through botting that show up?
The cannon base at Bandos is used to red-x, not to actually cannon stuff
broken rev bots in almost every world at ge for the past like few hours
So rev bots can drop items in pvp without delay they will also run so fast before u can render them that hard to even get a name
Fruit Stall bots are possibly just botting multiple stats such as combat, slayer, thieving, etc. for specific Grandmaster Quests possibly to bot-farm a specific quest-locked content.
Did the devs say if the bank is deleted? Like all that we see, is it removed from game?
They had the cannon base on them so they can place it and red x method during bandos probably
the blorva plat tokens is all the bis gear converted into plat tokens when killed..
I wonder how much this 1 bot busting event will / does affect the market and the price of items.
I’d love to see items return to their “normal” price with all these getting taken out of the game.
It doesn't. The bots killed in these streams are a fraction of a percent of all bots.
Almost impossible to measure with out knowing how much stuff there already is. We also have to remember that anything that makes it out of a hot account into the players hands is effectively stuck in the game now.
any guesses as to how much the total banks are (in gp)?
Jagex allows bots to boost numbers
Are you saying the game only has around 30k real players online while the other 70k are bots / goldfarmers?
every time jagex bans a bot someone buy a new bond, they are HEAVILY incentivized to ban bots as fast as humanly possible.
@@cHaMp630 well yeah… probably 20% real playerbase. There so many bots its almost sad to see..
@@skoodlemoosenot true about banning as fast as possible. Those people buy bonds for bots because they will still profit with the bot. If the bots are banned too quickly, they won't even make the bot and buy the bond, so they are actually incentivized to let the bots make a profit for their owner before banning them.
@@WarlordEXO-jg1ov bro ur delusional if you think these numbers are legit. theres no universe where only 20% of the player base is real, its more like 20% is bots.
I Genuinely think a great idea would be, for us to have access to this world. and have bots we reported there in our personal purgatory haha.
Good idea 😅
If you want to find and report bots you can do that in any world from the list. Why do so many people care about logging into the bot world so that they can report accounts that have already been detected as bots? There isn't even a sense of honor from cleaning up the game that way, since they're already basically marked to be banned by Jagex.
Other day i send a screenshot of bots to osrs discord and jagex got angry at me the irony.
the man is literally begging Jagex.
How is a leather cowl Werth more than 43M?
that blorva guy isnt banned or wasnt like few days ago
he's still banned
Do the people killing the bots get to keep the loot?
What do you think?
@@aMondayMorning I'd like to think they do. It'd be worth the time and effort
Honestly, I would love to have the heatmap feature to find social activity that's not the GE when skilling.
There are two ways to get into the bot busting world. Be a JMod, or be a bot.
He said “as a spectator” lmao then a really advanced hardcore or ult iron man just wanting to watch gets wacked 😂
What if that 126 inferno cape guy gets his account back now after trying hard and jamflex not responding for ages? everything deleted?
Are they doing this in an active world with real players in it as well?
They won't give you that privilege. You'll ban all the bots and the game will only have 5k players left. itll look bad for them
lmao yall with ur tin foil hats r ridiculous. "95k/100k players are bots" 🤣🤣
who the hell are they botting for if theres only 5k legit players lmao, yea bots are bad, but yall make 0 sense with ur logic.
@@itsOZone Its sarcasm. I'm saying it's a bot plagued game.
@@itsOZone it's easily 70% bots, you can say what you want, but I trust my own observation skills over someone with an anime pfp.
@@Lore-mc7zwin other worlds you that your own unverified opinions as fact? Please tell me you know Santa isn’t real?
@@SpottedHares : certified jagex fanboy.
some of the bots are quite clear but how do they really know who is a bot? I mean who knows if they ban legit players by mistake and what happens to them in the end?
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start botting and you're in sire
wait true
I didn't see 1 craw bow in the bank after it was done... -.-
where are all the vorkath bots, I see a huge vorkath bot farm every single day trading its mules on world 308 at the grand exchange, there's over 100 of them, I know this because I literally filled my pures ignore list just from reporting them.
Can’t understand why they are not doing these daily for the players pay to play the game least they could do is make sure the game is maintained
They are they just dont shoe it on stream vs. doing it more efficiently as their actual job.
They could do a monthly stream, though
Bots are like cockroaches, no matter how hard they try they’ll still be one who escapes and produces more bots.
It easy to get the bots with the off the shelf cheats, but catching bots running self made cheats is a much harder thing to do.
Jagex should release the Data : How many regular players buy bonds via in game currency vs how many bots. A lot of players buy bonds just to sell for ig cash, it cuts out buying gold online. Majority of people wanting to buy Gold do it online. It would be interesting to see.
How about the Vorkath bots with 10, 20, 30, 40 or even 50k kc????
Yea these vorkat bots as alot kcs i see 68k kcs they have to check it :/
Jagex can make this a gold sink tbh. Letting anyone in this world is definitely not happening. But they can create a minigame out of it with some cosmetics as rewards, and make players pay to enter the bot world. Something like 1B entrance fee for 24hours. The amount of players that can enter can't be too high otherwise it'll be dead content very fast. High entrance fee = less players = prolonged content.
Maybe 1m/day, 1b wouldn’t get anyone in
oh look. a westjett enjoyer…
I would guess the thieving training bots in lvl 90 is someone collectively leveling a bunch of accounts to do CG or the like -
It's probably easier to move the accounts as a group where they run the same script.
The amount of bots is very unsettling.
The Motherlode mine has been flooded with bots. Many level 3 with 90+ mining. Also many with stats for quests but also with 90+ mining, mostly are combat 47. Some have 105+. These bots dress the same, just prospector outfit with no cape or gloves and some with no amulet or skill amulet.
They run the same world for days, i keep reporting them but sadly see no results..
I've gotten put in this world twice just by afk woodcutting thought I was gonna get banned but ever h thing worked out lol
Does t this show bot creators that if a bot stops working it should log out??
What is that supposed to accomplish exactly? The bot creators probably aren't too concerned with a handful of their bots being seen in an occasional stream.
i'd bet money t hat the bots at fruit stalls are training their thieving for desert treasure. long term: the plan is to be those rev bots with the burst/barrage escape while killing revs with craws bow
Crazy that one guys bank was like 10% of the loot. He’s still crying to this day! 😂
Shame we don't see the gear they loose and the items in inventory
the fruit stall bots are mostly being used for pharaoh scepter / wildy chest after theyre leveled up
What happened to hot botty series?
Hey, just ran across a pretty big bot farm at amethyst in the SE mine. 2-3 per world most with 99+ mining. If they get 300k gp per hour all the ones with 99 mining have made well over 100m each. Looking at the price of amethyst since February it looks like they have been at this for a while because the price has absolutely tanked. Love your content!
Some of these names are still on highscores... any idea why they would claim them to be banned then?
Did you just stole Jagex video, talk over it and put an ad in it? That’s weak
He’s petitioning jagex as one of the only people who care about catching bots to have the ability to get rid of them. I would say he actively catches more bots then the entirety of the anti cheat at jagex
@@G-bl8hjyeah... nah...
Said the botter ...
@@alexlopez5800 said the viewer who isn’t playing for over 6 years because of work but still entertaint by osrs videos
@@Ruutger 😂
New drinking game everyone, everytime sir pugger says “bot/bots”… you must take a shot
"Anybody on this world is guaranteed a bot"
HEYYYYY, can we please put innocent people on this world?
WTF are you thinking?
@sirpugger i think there is a bot farm at vampire sentinels
10/10
You need a gold crown, a potato, and a monthly paycheck from Jagex.
Keep it up
Does anyone these days know the potato reference?
no he doesn’t. this video is so lazy it’s not even funny. all he did was recap a jagex livestream- and got paid by youtube ad roll and a sponsor on top of that. and the icing on the cake is the click-bait 94 elysians in the thumbnail.
@@Scrotie.McBoogerballls yeah peoople probably don't understand he probably gets 6-10k+ per sponsor + ad revenue and i would bet he wouldn't be playing the game if it wasn't a source of income
Genius to broadcast this tbh
I only saw one Elysian shield. Did you just photoshop the video cover photo for click bait?
obviously he does. look at most of his videos, they're all clickbait.
i actually went though half of the people in the stream a few days later and most of them are all not yet banned even to this day search the names and there still not banned haha
world 374 there are a lot of bots using the wilderness obelisk by ferox enclave and i dont know what for
Recently ran into a bot farm at flesh crawlers, just wanted to pass it along.
there where at least 100 bots per screen in that bot busting video...
damn, botrsrs
There is this weird bot farm going on right now in world 308 edge wildy they are lvl 21 but there has to be 100 plus of them *Update* just realized there is a line of them spanning from lumbridge to edgeville and a ton just offing themselves in the wilderness. pretty sure they are stat training and harvesting bones this is crazy. took me all of 30 seconds to make 4.5k that is 540k an hour by like a crap ton of bots. Sir Pugger we need you here !!!!
Now another group of bots named steven showed up im not even kidding this is crazy
Bro my real account account was banned I think a massage appears that it is disabled and try many ways to restore it but nothing happen help me
I feel begging to be let into the bot world would make people think you're a bot.
It's just like Organized Crime and Jagex will never be able to stop it completely.
i can confirm that last account was not hacked, the dude was going for max and botted it, he was banned the day of his max partynot sure why he risked such a highly progressed account
Source?
@@SlayerMuff me, i knew a few people that ran tob with him pretty much every day and they talked to him and he said he botted
As a minimum Jagex should introduce feedback like LoL where they tell you if they acted on your report.
In world 524 i found a bot farm, all dressed the same with spears in groups of 4 going to the house portal
What I don't get is that we know that some of this stuff is heavily botted but the prices aren't changing. These botters are incentivised through profit right? Well if we know that hundreds of PvM items are being made every day why isn't the price crashing? Something else is going on.
Can you check the bots at the myths guild doing rune ore. I've reported the same accounts 100 times and nothing. They are literally running all week the entire night. Just world hopping
Isn't world limits a thing? Would imagine it would fill up pretty quick.
The bots at the pirate zombies in wildy are out of control
They are supervised bots usually though, You often find the bot farm owners stood nearby to kill you if you bother them.
please do a video on the level 39 thieving bots at rouges castle. they all have 99-120 thieving and are very annoying
They should guest host you tbh...
issue with gwd bots is say even real players with bowfa will also use cannon base at bandos as its part of the method to kill bandos as i seen plenty legit bowfa players use cannon there.
Most aren’t even perm banned even being on that world. And if you were a GIM you could put all your items in the group storage 😂
Kinda sucks if the blood torva account was a hacked account, normally if someone is able to get their account back after it's been hacked and botted on, then they get to keep the items, but now Jagex took the items?