Can atheists date Christians?
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- Can atheists date Christians?
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My only religious ex dragged me to I don't know how many church seminars and youth groups when we were going out. She blamed me for taking her "away from god" and for leading her astray in his path. Doesn't matter if the girl is religious, just date someone who isn't crazy.
What?
My ex boyfriend was crazy religious too. There's a reason we didn't last.
Teach the children about both views and let them decide.
Best comment ever.....hands down .
+Not So Arrogant Atheist Nice try. But "letting them decide" is actually a trick to make them atheists. When you educate someone about a faith, they need to be brought about in that faith to understand it. If they are not made to identify with that faith from childhood, then they will suffer either from self in-congruence or Erikson's identity crisis, and will just grow to become disbelievers. However, brought up with the faith will bring them to the EQUAL, fair crossroads when their minds are ready for their free contemplation at age 14, which THEN the decision fairly equal between both choices. This is basic Psychology. Don't bullshit me with the 'let them decide' sneaky trick.
*****
Good idea.
I honestly wasn't trying to jew them into atheism.
"IS THAT A JEW JOKE OY VEY NAZI"
I'm jewish according to the talmud.
Karl Karling I think children is a long way from dating... I partially agree with you, I believe children should be taught ABOUT religions but not taught religion.
The video has a stupid title. You can date whoever you want. And if it's a first date it doesn't necessarily mean you're romantically involved or practically engaged to the person like many retarded millennials seem to think it does.
I am not an Atheist, but these videos are entertaining. I like hearing everyone's opinion :)
horror fan Tom????
I do as well (ok I can't hide it, I come here to purposely get triggered)
Lol
He does trigger me cause I'm a Christian and he is stereotyping me I don't hate gays I feel it's fine if your another religion I'm mean I honestly don't care if I'm watching this video and it feels like he targets Christians I don't know what we did to make him get so upset over us and think of us at the enemies but im sorry
Matthew Barnard
Why can't everyone be like you?
1:05, what about not teach about religion. that is what my parents did. let the child find out his own believe.
I don't think that necessarily has merit. It automatically reminds me of the talk about the birds and the bees that parents hate giving to children. As a result, I've met some people who've had a very misinformed view on how sex works. They end up getting bad info from bad sources. Can't we just not teach children any info on the nature of the universe ourselves and only rely on whatever source the child happens to use? I think it's about finding a right balance.
Eric Lin
What religion should we introduce to our children? Should we introduce the religion that is popular in our country or in our family, or show them many different religions?
I'm not expert on child raising (in fact some people would still call me a child), but I think teaching kids about the various popular religions around the world is fine. It's like teaching them about the different cultures of the world. And the different ideologies and how they came to their conclusions.
So in short, I think some variety is called for. Maybe say, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Pantheism, and the lack of religion, atheism. Helps people get informed on what people belief and why.
Makes sense to me
My answer is : Maybe. It depends on how the significant other interprets, practices his/her Christianity.
Personnal experience. I've dated a very hot and smart women a bit more than a decade ago. We were getting along quite well. And then religion came between us.
At first, I decided to let it go, it wasn't much of a deal. But as we were spending more time together, I noticed she was a devouted Christian, with fixed, preconceived ideas and wanted to go to Church every week. At that point, I asked myself : "Do I really want to go into a relationship and deal with THIS?". Clearly the answer was no.
+PP Duval She had sex before marriage with you? very selective about her own morality
Praying and going to church every week is a big deal? It's her personal life, it's not your business. It doesn't affect other people.
@@agnes1487 when you enter a relationship with someone, they will likely try to share their personal beliefs with you, and he wants to avoid that.
Dude same, except she would try to convince me every 2 seconds and when I smacked her with facts she got mad at me
@@agnes1487It affects other people when you act holier than thou and treat your spouse like they are lesser because they don't believe.
I'm an athiest and boyfriend is orthodox, we get along fine! we have agreed to not talk our kids about religion during the "Santa" phase.
I date a devoutly religious woman. We've had many religious conversations but at the end of the day, she had to reconcile why the man she loves but rejects any concept of a god is a better example of "Christian" values and behaviors then the other men she had dated who claimed they had strong faith.
It's bigger than just atheism vs religion though, as big as that is for me. A person that would be religious very often thinks about the world, processes information, and judges things on a very different set of criteria than I do. I am talking from personal experience, as I don't have any better source to quote from. I don't recall meeting religious people that highly value the act of thinking rationally and setting aside emotional appeals, etc, etc and then just have that one exception, religion. It's often based upon an entire thought process and system that is completely incompatible with my own and would annoy me greatly in a romantic relationship. That's on top of the whole religion thing, too.
Take it from experience, you don't want to date a christian.
If you think that since they think there is a god there to judge them that they'll make "moral decisions" it's not going to happen that way. I dated one mega christian and she was a horrible person. Cheated on me, selfish, even spread terrible rumors around about people, including that they were planning on killing someone.
if you think that it won't get in the way of your relationship, then forget it! It's a sin for them to date anyone that separates them from jesus, whatever that means. So even if it doesn't matter to you, it'll matter to them.
If you think that they seem happy, they probably are actually just as happy or unhappy as anybody else you see.
I could go on but my warning has been said.
That doesn't mean that EVERY OTHER Christian girl out there, is like that
TheLittleMJPuppet Oops I meant to put in exactly that, but it seems I missed that.
However every christian I've met and talked to about this/heard of on the internet and word of mouth and such still say that it's taught that you shouldn't date outside christians because "it gets in the way of you and God, and your God comes before this guy/girl". So it rarely works out.
there not as open athiest are book to be read
Tell me more about it man, I currently talking to a Christian girl and we both like each other a lot and get along so well but she is bother by the fact that I’m Atheist, I’m willing to go to church with her and all but she just doesn’t want to make that type of commitment since her Religious Beliefs are so important to her, it’s sad but it’s hard since all friends, girls I talked to, and family members are religious and can’t really understand what is like well being different. I love them and all but I just can tell I don’t have the same energy back.
I dated "a Christian" once. There was something different about her; she had a "joy of life" unlike her family, and the one other Christian I had seriously dated. Though I was far from a "firebrand" atheist, I was at least honest about it. Her family were church-going Baptists. They did not care for me. After several dates, we had the inevitable conversation about religion. She confided in me she didn't really believe anymore and my non-conformity was actually one of the things she was first attracted to. >>> We celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary last year. I fall in love every morning.
That's goddamn beautiful
"The beginning of love is to let those we love be perfectly themselves, and not to twist them to fit our own image. Otherwise we love only the reflection of ourselves we find in them." Thomas Merton
I dated an atheist girl and yes we did have some issues according to our belief, but to date her was the best decision of my life. I have to say, I did wanted to push her to my beliefs at some point (I was wrong). Years later, I realized that If you love somebody you shouldn't push him to be someone else. That is not love, that will never be God. I am grateful because this made me a more open minded person. So my answer will be yes, Christians and atheists can date.
Can a person date an idiot? Yes, though it usually doesn't end well.
Kanimi
Dang. That's ganna hit a lot of people hard.
That's just not right.
Kanimi If you look back in time you will see that many famous politicians and scientists were religious. Try to keep your bigotry out of the comment section.
Thue Morse and philospers like Socrates were aethiests
@@wiggy009 *agnostics
Ants ants agnosticism is compatible with atheism and religion.
My parents did that. When they got married, my dad was catholic and my mom was an atheist, and as I grew up, they told me that I could believe what I wanted to believe. We went to a Unitarian Universalist church, which both of my parents liked, cuz it was more about morals and doing the right thing. No one said you had to believe in god or anything. In fact, other than a few bible readings in RE when I was little (along with readings of some other holy texts from different religions), we never went over religious stuff. We focused on the connection between people--that's the only thing we strictly believed in--that there was something very powerful about human emotions and our love and empathy for each other, and how we should never judge and always look at things with an open mind. My 8th grade RE class was all about sex education. Coed. Bet you never heard THAT one before! But by then, my dad had decided that he was an atheist :) Anyway, the point is, I think christians and atheists can date as long as they fully respect each other's beliefs and don't force them on each other or their children.
Uh, yeah, I would date anybody regardless of their religious beliefs if I thought they were good people and I liked them. Does that make me NOT take religion seriously? No. It's a subject I tend to avoid especially because it's so controversial, but especially because I don't .care. why you're a good person, or why you do the things you do. If I like you, and you're a good person, then that's more than enough for me to take an interest in you and probably date you. Religious beliefs really shouldn't stand in the way of love, seriously.
I heard Pastor Lester Roloff talk about a young Christian lady who rejected a marriage proposal from a young fella who was a non - believer .
She asked him - " Is it true that you are not a Christian ? "
And he answered - " I am not a Christian ".
Her answer was - " I cannot marry you because , how can you love me , being not perfect , and not love Jesus , him being perfect ".
What an outstanding answer .
Boy , she had it all figured out !
I dated and married a Christian. 25 years later we are still together.
Also both of our sons are atheists too.
@@simonbaker6962 Haha AMAZING
Can non superstitious people date superstitious people? Yes, as long as the superstition, or lack of it, doesn't get in the way
My father dated and married my mother even though he is agnostic even though she is a conservative Jew. I took after my dad and became an atheist.
I Think The Religion Child Problem Can Be Fixed By Both Parents Telling Their Kids What They Believe And The Kid Finding Out What He Believes For Himself/Herself Even If The Child Doesn't Believe Either
The maximum level of “religion” I would ever allow in my partner would be some degree of spirituality, and only as long as they aren’t hippie-level about it (belief in karma not allowed).
Big problem in America.
Solution: Moved to Japan.
lol I like your solution
i had a bf of 2 and a half years. he was christian, but was fine with me being an athiest. we never really had religious fights. then i realised i was gay.
That is a good thing
Happily dating a fellow non-theist. Pillow talk has been known to include hilarious dramatic readings of evangelical pamphlets XD We've both agreed that we would try to be as "hands off" as possible regarding the spiritual choices of future kids.
Thanks man, I really like this girl and willing to go to Church with her and even talked about letting our kids (hypothetically) be religious like her and all. But she so doesn’t seem to feel the same towards me since I’m an Atheist. She likes me but I guess not as much as her religion, I know it’s a big part of her life but it just makes me sad to think I’m willing to do all this for her to make her happy. But I know that she can’t truly be happy unless I’m Christian and I can’t do that. I’ll celebrate holidays and go to church but will not convert, I used to be Catholic since I was a kid and later became a Christian, started to question things and became Agnostic and then Atheist but I just can’t convert back, I see the world in a different perspective and I know it hurts to say it but I rather live a harsh and painful truth than a sweat and warm-hearted lie. Hope you read this and would like to hear your opinion, whoever actually, religious or not.
I was friend with that christian boy, which i somewhat falled in loved with, and I knew that at some point he loved me, because he had said it at some point before he knew I was an atheist. To me, religion don't really matter in love, you can have a conversation and make compromises to make things work .. But he rejected me because my beliefs aren't the same as him, so automaticly we're too different to be together..
I agree religion shouldnt matter when it comes to love. Thats always a good frame of mind. I say this as an atheist.
Vincent Malloy Kristina Lanteigne Love sure, but what about pure lust ?
I found having a casual sex life with a Christian is not too bad (especially when it is a Christian whose parents are piously strict and so she has that "Rebel" mindset). But to date one ? No thanks, I tried a few times but the differences make it too awkward.
There is a saying, if you want a relationship to last do not debate religion or politics if your opinions differ. Either leave it be or do not get in a relationship with a person who has such different world-views.
In love (or any relationship really) you want compatibility. It's that simple.
horror fan ok, well flattered and all but I only date and have sex with women, preferably women between 2 to 5 years older than me.
Now in regards to love, of course I would like to have a loving relationship, most do I'd assume, it is part of the human mindset to be accepted, rejection for most is a painful thing to endure as we are social creatures in every way. That said I have been in loving relationships before, even in one I thought was true love (it's amazing how being happy and also attracted to the person you're with can give an illusion of love). I have even been engaged, with a girl i was with for almost 6 years and who I was actually engaged to for a little over 2 years. Our relationship ended though not due to either of us, but due in large part to our families clashing. I am from Australia, of mostly Danish and German stock and most of the family (except me) are Protestant. She was from France, she lived for a while in Germany but she was born in Bulgaria and basically her entire family were Bulgarian, Orthodox Christian. Her father especially was not thrilled that she planned to marry a non-Bulgarian.
Now that all said, I do not get lonely, I am only 24 and I know I still have a lot of life left, plenty of time to find true love if it does exist for me out there. In the meantime I have the love of family and friends to sustain me emotionally and I have the lust of women who I can manage to seduce or who seduce me to sustain me sexually. The reality is, most will not find true love, the truth of the matter is it is a fools errand to search for true love, there are over 6000000000 people in the world, for most roughly 3000000000 are compatible due to sexuality and this is still a lot of people. If there is true love in the world, this implies there is 1 perfect match for a person, you are a fool to search for the 1 in the sea of 3000000000+, it is literally searching for a needle in a haystack.
horror fan No, not quite. In essence what I am saying is live life in the now, enjoy the time that passes as much as possible because if you are constantly looking for perfection it can become common to let good things pass for possessing even a few minor flaws.
If you find perfection (in the form of love or other) within your life while living your life that is a bonus, but to actively go in search of it and accept nothing but is to deprive oneself of other wonderous things!
My message is simply to be glad if you do find perfection, but do not be ashamed of or reject things that are less than perfect or you will have a pretty empty life...
I've been an Atheist on and off since my teens, and I've been married to a committed Christian for over 25 years. It's not that hard. We just disagree on the god thing. I think she's wasting part of her life on a harmful fantasy, but that's really her choice. I waste a lot of my life playing video games, and that's my choice. I think it's a less harmful choice than believing in a god, but that's just me.
Christians live longer and are mentally healthier bcs they believe in God which has a good impact on their health and mental state. So no, it's not wasting time and it is better than playing video games.
+Katniss R what evidence/research can you cite that statistically agrees that Christians live longer? I say you just made that up.
Katniss R If you think it's mentally healthier to live under a delusion, I think you need to talk to a psychiatrist. And it is certainly not better than playing video games.
Ian C still want the research that shows this. I still say she made it up. I vehemently challenge her comment and demand a response lestvshe be sentvto the children's table.
F. Rogers I totally agree. It's like the stuff they say about prayer: "Oh, but prayer has been proven to work!" Then you look up the studies and they're all either showing no effect at all, or they show prayer is actually detrimental.
My mother is christian, and my late father was an atheist. For the most part, it was a non-issue. We celebrated mom's religious holidays, but didn't go to church, and for the most part, aside from some veggie tales videos, the topic of religion was just never brought up. I didn't know what religion I was supposedly being raised as until I was near 10 years of age, and didn't know about my father's beliefs until I was in my teens. In the end, I decided to become an atheist of my own volition, and my young brother is free to make that same decision. So, it is entirely possible! But there are complications, and there would have to be compromise, which not all are willing to make. It would depend on the person, as far as I can tell.
In short, I agree, and great video!
I'm glad that you addressed this, my wife is a devout Christian and we have been happily married for almost 14 years, we have there children, twin girls and a 5 year old boy. One of my daughters is atheist/secular humanist and the other is Christian, they are best friends. This proves a point, that not only can people with different beliefs be good friends, but can also fall in love and have a happy, well functioning life. By the way, not all religious people hate knowledge
My dad is an atheist and my mom is a believer. The only reason it worked for them is because they decided early on to never discuss religion... also because she's more of a cultural catholic, she goes to church but that's about it.
From a Christian perspective, it's something we're told not to do. I have had a couple disastrous experiences when I dated or got interested in a nonbeliever (after becoming a Christian). So for me, it's out of the question now...Because it would be a sin, and because I know from experience that it's one of the worst things I could do.
It also makes no sense from a practical standpoint, because for someone who is truly committed to God, they wouldn't be able to share the most important thing in their life with their partner, and as you said, they'll have very different values, and different interests and priorities.
Wait, wouldn't your partner be the most important thing in your life? o.O
Nah, just kidding ^^
But I think, it can work out and there is nothing wrong with Christians dating Atheists. I'd tend to say, that the whole issue of not being allowed to date an atheist sounds like the church actually being afraid you might be convinced of his POIs. But religion should never be a factor to decide about dating someone, or not. And it is completely irrelevant wether the other person is islamic or atheistic or buddhist or anything. As long as you love and respect that person, you should be able to live in a relationship peacefully and not discuss over every single thing.
Also, I personally (as an atheist) think that nothing is wrong with raising a child while having one parent an atheist and one a christian (or religious, if you'd rather say that). Most values people are raised by are actually the christian ones anyways (at least it was that way in my case and BOTH my parents are atheist) and it doesn't matter what the parents believe, due to the fact that the child - after some time has passed - will be able to chose for himself, wether he believes in a god or not.
I hope I didn't offend anyone with a different view and made my points clear here, sincerely: Me
i guess that's the way it feels for most atheists too, i would prefer to marry someone who believed what i believed but Hemat makes some great points! i guess they don't apply to Christians though, because Christians are all spreading Christianity and making sure everyone in your home is a Christian, gosh i...i don't know why but i feel kind of insulted it's like you just said "marrying me is a sin" because im an atheist, so therefore anyone who decides to marry me is a sinner? Marvel, im sorry i come off as harsh but...gee i really feel kind of offended.
Overlord IV actually, most values aren't Christian values, Christianity does have some good values and i say "some" for good reason, because we both know the bible has really awful values written in it as well (in the old AND new testament) but to say that the values belong to Christianity would be an insult to the Muslim religion, Hindu religion and many other religions which have the same values and also atheism, i have many values but i don't call them Christian values, i just call them "my" values :P
I feel so sorry for you that you think that there is something wrong with loving someone unconditionally. My wife is a believer and I'm not. We love each other in spite of our differences. You said that it is a sin and that is just so sad and I can never recall jesus ever being quoted as saying that (I was raised chrisitan until I woke up at age 10 and have read the bible several times in my life)
Joe Smith You put words in my mouth. I never said that there is something wrong with loving someone unconditionally.
Also, it is not MY idea that it is wrong for a strong Christian to marry an atheist. I believe the scriptures, and biblical Christianity is clear that one should not be unequally yoked. It also makes sense from a practical and logical standpoint. If a devout, committed Christian - who is not simply a nominal Christian but one who actually walks the walk.... is married to someone who has ZERO interest in her fundamental beliefs and passion, then how can they share that together? They can't, obviously. I wouldn't want to be married to someone who was opposed to my deepest and most important beliefs in life, and who had different interests and values.
So I'm sorry, but it might work for people whose faith does not affect all aspects of their life, or nominal christians... but it makes no sense for those who are truly committed to God. Thanks for your thoughts though.
My parents are complete opposites, and have different views on everything, yet somehow they both respect each other and have been married for 22 years
Living in TN, about an hour north of Nashville, I'm surrounded by Christianity. Of the girls I've dated, only 1 was Atheist and 1 was Agnostic. Those two relationships were the most fulfilling ones. The remaining "relationships" were shallow and didn't last more than a month. I'm not compatible with these people. Shit, I hardly have any friends left because I don't believe in their god. Nice going, Southern society.
aw im sorry bro. i hope u good luck :)
Huh, someone else who lives in Tennessee. Yeah, I know how that feels, being surrounded by people of faith. It's uncomfortable to a point, since most of the Christians who have spoken badly of Atheists to me have been here.
Yeah, I'm in Tennessee too. I don't think I know any atheist girls at my school. I actually do know a couple that almost started dating, but the girl found out the guy didn't believe in God and broke it off.
Yeah, guise. It's tough being an Atheist in the "bible belt." I plan to move west; to the ever-so-liberal Colorado, perhaps.
BTC Fanboi Keep your head held high and best wishes.
Any relationship can work as long as there is mutual love and respect, the kind that makes you cautious of your words and actions because you know that your partner is perfect just the way he/she is, and you never want to be the cause of him/her changing. Any true christian should be fully capable of dating an atheist without any issues at all, and without trying to convert him/her.
It's a none question, if you like someone and that person feels the same what difference does it make, so long as you are ready to support the choices they make and they are ready to support the choices you make then where is the conflict? You have to accept the person for what they are and find middle ground to work with focus on the positive attributes of the person not their negative sides as you see them.
I'm a Christian. My husband claims to be an atheist. I have been married 14 yrs. and I was born again in 2005. It makes life very difficult. I have told my husband under no uncertain terms that my children will be raised in a Christian home and he has no say so about it. I will not divorce him because I don't believe in divorce. I love him very very much and the bible says when 2 people get married they become one flesh and that is very much true. However if he chooses to leave me because of my faith that is strictly up to him. We don't talk about it all the time. But its definetly a big part of my life as the kids and I are in church at least 3 times a week. We will get into a discussion about once a month or so. We listen to what the other has to say and then we agree not to discuss it any more. And then a few weeks later we do again :) But hey we've been together since we were teenagers.
i wouldn't blame your husband if he left you. your messed up lady. go see a shrink
My son & daughter-in-law more or less mirror Kat's marital situation but they've agreed that their son is not taught one way or the other as uncontested fact, but he is to question and think for himself and make his own mind up. I approve.
Thank you Jan, for pointing those things out. Its actually kind of funny. See, if you knew my husband then you would know that over the years he has claimed to be many things. Including, but not limited to, catholic, hindu, and Buddhist, agnostic and pantheist. He doesn't know what he believes. Its not disrespectful to point this out. Also, I do obey my husband. The bible makes it clear that we ought to. But obedience to the gospel takes precedence over that. So if my husband orders me to do something sinful, then I do not have to obey. So if my husband orders me to be an atheist, which doesn't make sense anyway, then I am under no obligation to obey that. Now he can tell me not to go to church, prayer meeting, or not to see my Christian friends and I must obey. BUT, I will still be a Christian. No one can order anyone to actually change beliefs. Your beliefs are ingrained into you in your heart and your head.
Kat B Hi Kat - I'm sorry you believe you have to obey your husband. I don't think you should. I do not expect my wife to obey me. We have been equal partners for 52 years. If you think you must do everything the Bible tells you, then I'm assuming you do not eat shellfish, nor do you wear a mixture of woollen and linen together (to mention just two questionable instructions).
Lionel Beck Hi Lionel! I don't believe that I have to do everything the bible tells me. For instance the things that you mentioned are in the OT laws. Christ said He was the fulfillment of those laws and the laws about eating were actually changed. Paul talks about it in the NT. A lot of the reasons that we have those laws in the OT even though they don't apply to us today are for historical reasons. We see the history of the Israelites. We can also see the correlations between things in the O and N Testaments. Thank you for your comment though, you guys sure make me think. :) ( BTW, this answer was just very quick and not as exhaustive an answer as I could have given, the key here is that Christ fulfilled the law, He say Himself in the NT. That within itself requires some heavy explanation.)
My wife and I have a little girl. I'm agnostic atheist and she's christian. I think a lot of it has to do with your back ground. Being that I was once a protestant christian, I get it. The god question isn't that big of a deal to me anymore at least in my personal life. I love the debate, but in the end, she's a beautiful person, a wonderful wife and a excellent mother. I wouldn't ever think of doing something to jeopardize growing old with her. Specially on something that no one will know until we are dead. When we discussed bringing a child into this world. We had some questions for each other and to be honest some of them were really rough. The thing I couldn't stress enough though is that I would not point my child to the supernatural answer for anything. As I told my wife, I'm not here to tell my child what to think, I'm here to teach them how to learn for themselves. That's how I was raised and that is how I will raise my child.
Firstly I'm not a Christian. I'm a logical and an analytical person. I don't just believe anything for the sake of believing. I look up for the evidence, and then understand what reality is, and then I speak. And my analysis regarding reality of people's fate, took a few years for me, until I finally understood it. And I was also very sceptical. But when I looked into the Ultimate Reality with the necessary evidence, I started to believe in God (a Supreme Power)! So now I believe in God, but I do not follow a particular religion. I believe in God, and follow the ways of being a good Human Being and for doing service to Humanity and all living creatures in the world. God Bless You Too!
I am a Christian, and my boyfriend is an atheist. We enjoy all of the ways in which we are compatible, which are very numerous. I've never met anyone I had more in common with, or who I enjoyed more. We also enjoy brisk discussions about religion, and we both respect each other for being thinking people.
We aren't gonna have kids though...we've already done that part of life, and are in our 50's. I might think differently if we were in our 20's, with potential kids in the mix. However, we didn't meet when we were young. We met in mid-life, just the way God intended. hahahahaha!
No jokes about god and destiny please.
I may not be an expert in these things, all I gotta say that a relationship between a Christian and an Atheist can work out. Just remember that as long as you are not an asshole about your beliefs (both sides) and force it upon the other person to convert them, it should be good.
My girlfriend and I are separate on this viewpoint of atheism, myself, and christianity, her, but we agree very strongly on many important and contextual social issues; as well as parental ones. We have agreed to not antagonize each other to the best of our abilities while presenting our children with all the information available, giving both viewpoints, and letting them make the decision for themselves when they are old enough to rationalize that decision. Regardless, we would still love, support, and accept them no matter what as we would with each other in turn. So I hope this advice may be useful and that maybe it could gain some constructive criticism. I'm always open to a rational conversation!
she must not be a radical Christian. some would call your wife a convenient Christian, while your view is absolute.
Actually, the Bible teaches that a Christian shouldn’t date an atheist. If they do, they should question their beliefs
I'm atheist and am dating a very religious woman. Been together for almost 10 years. We actually have very similar values. In regards to kids, my girlfriend said she wants to take our kids to church, and I don't have any issues with that. The way I see it, it is my job to teach my kids how to think, not what to think. I want to raise my kids to be objective critical thinkers. If I succeed, they will be atheists. But regardless, that's their decision.
***** not true. I, along with many other atheists grew up with religious parents. But then I went to college and the rest is history. Religion teaches kids moral pronouncements. And what IS right and wrong. I, on the other hand, will be teaching my kids how to decide what is right and wrong, and how to think, not what to think.
I'm atheist and grew up in the Midwest USA. Lived in a few towns in a couple of states. I'm 38 years old now, and I can say that I have NEVER met an openly atheist girl or woman in my entire life.
So if I was to limit my dating to other non-believers.... I would be one lonely SOB. haha...
Been married for about 8 years now, and my wife was raised catholic, she doesn't go to church anymore, and I'd simply call her a theist now. She is pretty awesome overall, sharp, witty, and quite logical about most things, so I can't complain much about her lingering beliefs.
And yes we have kids, but don't worry we're figuring out how to manage a dualistic belief household just fine. :)
My problem was that the only guys that I could find that didn't believe in god, were the type to bash those of religious belief. And I don't agree with that kind of bullying from either side.
I married a Christian and we work really well together even though are religious beliefs are different, we agree on pretty much every other aspect of life.
I guess it depends how devout they are in their beliefs. If you’re passionate about something it’s hard to not let it get in the way
I am a divorced atheist who is going to marry a divorced retired pastor (who is presently planning to re-credential in the faith of his choosing).
Our family will consist of "two atheists" and "two theists" (we both have sons from our previous marriages) and we are all excited to have a "blended/mixed family".
We have known each other for years and it is the mutual understanding of our "beliefs" that keeps us strong. Love, commitment, kindness, generosity and friendship have naturally fallen into place thus makes this union very genuine. I am in full support of my Husband-to-be's desire to become a Pastor again because I believe in the love he has for his family, community and his faith... Whether or not we agree in the existence of God or Jesus, has nothing to do with his desire to make the world a little better. Love comes in all shapes and sizes.
I find it fascinating that we are able to share thoughts and ideas about what we believe and don't, how we can both look at the same universe and be in amazed at the beauty and not agree on its origin.....that's why I fell in love with this "Christian male"...he is an open minded, free thinking and well educated Man!!!...I am a free thinking, open minded and well educated Woman!!!
That's all.... nothing more, nothing less...
I knew this atheist who was a physicist from Cal Tech. He was in love with a Roman Catholic woman. She refused him because she thought he was stupid. He got angry and told her that he was tolerant of Christianity. She still refused him. She later married this tall, handsome, educated spy chief from the British.
The question of sharing belief systems with your child isn't as complicated as you might think. Each parent lives their belief system and while they are small the children actively and (as importantly) passively educate in each of those systems. When the children become adults they don't simply swallow one or the other whole. They examine their experience with each and come to their own place of truth. This happens whether it's an atheist and a theist, a Catholic and a Protestant, or a Muslim and a Hindu. Don't sweat it.
Long ago i met a guy at the Church of Religious Science. It has a pantheist creed about how "God is in everything and everywhere". "There's not a spot/Where God is not.". I had attended it occasionally because my mother believed in it, but was really an atheist from birth. After going there several more weeks, we quit. He was from a family that had been rather superficially affiliated with a Baptist church. Many years later he as well as his mother started getting much more interested in Christianity, but after attending several churches he felt that every one of them was corrupted with worldliness. I agree. He died a few years ago, and I regret not having more conversations with him about religion. I love to ask devout Christian believers and proselytizers about the lucrative tax-free incomes of all the hypocritical church leaders in bed with the federal government. I have even discussed religion with Muslims at times but they are often ignorant of their own religion, sometimes falsely assume that i am a Christian, and when they know they're losing the argument they may resort to insults or even violent threats.
I would never date a super Religious person that would try to take me to church and stuff like, but I am complete fine with people that is "soft" religious. As you said maybe for those people religion is not that important
1) Catholicism is still the main religion in latin cultures, but lately is in the rise other religions specially Evangelicalism but there are others, also is not that uncommon to find atheist or soft religious persons specially in the main cities.
2) No I am not, I am an atheist
3) I do not care what Christina Aguilera and Ricky Martin thinks. I prefer rock and heavy metal.
Thanks you too
horror fan Latin America is not the Philippines... I recommend you to read this article www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/upshot/latin-america-is-losing-its-catholic-identity.html
horror fan You said that you thought most Latinos were Catholic. While it's true that here most people are Catholic, most of them are just Catholic because they were baptized as a baby. Plus, as the article I recommended you states, during the last decades many people have converted to Protestantism. In fact, I was born in a little Chilean town where that vast majority of the population is Evangelical. What I wanted to say is that Latin America is not Catholic in the same way as the Philippines.
Nope, I'm an atheist. What about you?
I myself am an athiest and I am dating a devout Christian and I am the only one out of our group of mutual friends that is an athiest. In regards to children being raised by the 2 of us, I've already told my girlfriend that if she pleases she can teach my child about God, but leave me out of it. I will not sugar coat anything my child asks me about my beliefs. In fact i'd proably encourage my child to believe whateveer he/she believes. We absolutely have our fights about religious matters and morality matters, but that's life. So in my case from my experiences, yes an athiest can absolutely date a religious person, just be prepared for a bit of work to agree to disagree. On 11/10/2016 so in a few days of this comment we will be celebrating 3 years of our relationship. Its up to you how to deal with each other and its up to you to decide if you 2 are right for each other.
Yes. It will be difficult, but my mother saved my father from Christianity. My dad used to get angry at people with the Darwin fish on the back of their car.
I am gay and atheist. I dated a Christian three times. We did not try to convert the other, but did not adjust our speech to accommodate the other. We did not criticise the other's worldview. Where each was brought up. everyone was Christian. It was not as though they had chosen it.
My mom is christian, and my dad is atheist they do have arguments sometimes about each others beliefs but they get along great. My mom taught me to be christian, and my dad taught me to believe in what I want to believe in. for a 15 yr old atheist i would say i have a great mind due to being more open minded about subjects, or situations going on around the world like religion, or wars.
My late parents were married for 48 years- they married as non Christians.
My mum got saved. Jesus healed her of severe depression & backache.
She got water baptised . She passed away in 2009, as a believer in Christ.
My dad got saved supernatural by a visitation from the Lord. He got saved & water baptised at age 77.
Both my parents passed on : as believers in Christ, water baptised & their bones are kept in same niche. 🌿Praise the Lord🌹for His mercy & grace.
All my family members are saved - one by one . Except 1 brother.
My dad was 4 years younger than my Mum.
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Just so you know, your brother is the most saved. Y'all are delulu.
You're channel is awesome my friend. Keep up the good work.
I have been married to a Catholic for 33 years was an atheist when we met and still am and she is still a Catholic don't see the problem
Short answer after personal first relationship: Definitely 😊
My wife is a Christian and I am an atheist and we get along fine.
Let the kid discover for him or herself. My friend was raised that way, and he has always been one of the most tolerant, open-minded people I've known. I was raised in the church (my dad is a pastor), and thankfully my parents are very liberal and never took to using their religion to justify bigotry against others, but invariably, I was brainwashed by the experience. This isn't to say it was necessarily negative, but before my skull plates had even fused together, I was implanted with a set of values and morals that I was led to believe were ultimate. This isn't something we should be teaching kids. Unless the kid asks to go to church, it shouldn't be forced upon them.
My Mum is a Christian and my Dads an Atheist, they have been married for about 18 years now. Personally I would say I had an advantage there since I had both views available to me.
This is the wrong question. My understanding of the English language suggests that "can" involves the ability to do something. We already know that Atheists have dated and even married Christians. The real question is whether atheists and Christians should date, fall in love, make love, get married ect... I think Hemant Mehta's answer is spot on.
Of course. I have a friend, she's an atheist. Her girlfriend is Muslim. They are like the sweetest couple I've ever met. They are so in love. Most, but not all, of their political and social views align, except for religion. For them, their religion or lack of one, is something that they keep within theirselves, not something that they force on others.
Done it, tried for two years, It definitely cannot work, no way no how, do not even bother trying. If they truly relate to the teachings of the christian doctrine to call themselves a christian, you will find some rather monumental chasms between your individual morality and ethics and what is more fundamental to real love taking root and holding than those two little bedrocks. -finding the other person hot & having the same music taste does not a life long partner make.
Daniel Day What about when it comes to having children?
I have a crush on a boy who I know is passionately religious. I am agnostic. Our personalities are actually very similar, we were just raised very differently and the household he grew up in shaped his views. He debates his interpretation of the bible with other people, but never does with me. Somehow we manage to just talk endlessly about what we have in common. He has never asked me if I believe in God, and I wonder if that might be because inside somewhere he already knows that I'm not religious. He is very kind to me regardless. I would like to give dating him a shot. I actually do not mind hearing him talk about his beliefs, comparative mythology is my favorite subject, which is what I think religion is, myth. I enjoy learning about all types of religion, whether its Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism. All I need is for him to accept me as I am. I will take him as he is.
I am an atheist and I am married to a Christian. I totally agree with your argument: we don't agree on the go issue but we do agree on the important social issues: gay marriage and abortion etc. Granted, we are not planning to have children :-)
Do as your heart follows. Every human should be loved and about your children's belief's let them learn about those stuff later own♥️
I agree that the morals, values & love (of course) are more important in the relationship than focusing on the religious views/beliefs. Now for if a christian & an atheist or agnostic get married, both should be wise to tell their child or children to not follow their parents' views on religion but to always have values and morals in life. Plus to tell them to follow their own path towards happiness as long as its not destructive to themselves or anyone else that who cares for them. Pretty much just saying "the love will always be there unconditionally".
Here was my rule when I was dating: 1) You may go to church, but you will not drag me to church. 2) You may take any children we have to church until they are 14 years old, then they get to decide.
One thing the video doesn't clarify is that it is important to talk about this early in the relationship. Once ground rules and expectations are established it shouldn't be an issue. If this is intolerable to the other person then the relationship isn't workable.
Until 14? If taken there before, that is tantamount to indoctrination.
Children should get to decide at any age. Forcing a child to go to church is just brainwashing.
I converted an ex girlfriend to an atheist because they didn't know anything about atheism and they were hardcore Christian. I felt proud but I didn't even do it on purpose. She just asked what religion and I said I'm an atheist and she wanted me to explain.
I am a lifelong atheist, over 40 plus years. I have been married to a Catholic woman over 18 of those years. It IS a difficult topic, and it is pretty much the ONLY topic we fight about to this day. I think when we take the marriage (relationship) as a whole, the good outweighs the bad of the religious elephant in the room. We really don't bring it up too often. Neither one of us have been "Preachy" to our two kids, but both of my extremely bright kids have gravitated towards atheism. (Of course).
You know actually yes I think it's possible. Religion on religion however seems more difficult. My friend, who is catholic, was telling how she met this guy who she got along with in every way possible and who she could see herself marrying; who she definitely would have married IF, and only if it had not been that he was of a different religion (in this case baptist christian). I told her that she could of missed out on the love of her life...for religion...now you have to settle for less just so you can have that same religious safety that doesn't even matter. Again this is the power of religion. It absolutely disgusts me at times and I would be glad to see it abolished.
As an European in his late teens, i literally dont have the choice of dating a christian if i wanted to.
Religion among young people here died at this point.
And I come from those really catholic southern countries.
Excellent answer. The bible doesn't prohibit dating non-Christians it is just really not recommended for the exact reasons you mention. There is a much stronger possibility that there would be problems.
If I were to date a religious woman and have a kid, I would tell my child to follow whatever path he/she thinks is right. But I would also teach them to not believe in the stereotypes about theists and atheists, and I would always remind them that they don't need religion to be a good person.
My son is every bit as atheist as I but is seriously involved with a Catholic. I hope she'll be my daughter-in-law. They have a very healthy relationship. Not all Catholics are goofy about it. They've hinted my son has made certain future concessions, but I trust that he would never let them be stupid.
I am an Evangelical Christian (an old school Protestant in my theology, albeit not necessarily in my lifestyle, I am not uptight or stuffy) and I would never SERIOUSLY date an atheist or agnostic. Maybe just go out on one or two dates for fun or if she needed somebody to accompany her to a wedding or a party or other social function.
Answer: people who disagree can live together if they're okay with disagreeing. What they believe has no bearing on this.
My wife was raised Catholic at first. Her Mother became a born-again minister. She never accepted the dogma of either, but still maintained the belief in "A God, somewhere". Because compassion, equality, kindness were both traits we admired, it wasn't an issue. After about a year of living together, she asked a very unloaded question, "why DON'T you believe?". I laid out my Historical, archaeological, biological and moral reasons in a passionless manor. She had an epiphany and realized it made much more sense than the claims of unwitnessed miracles and unanswered prayer. She then calmly walked to the bedroom and cried for two days.
She wasn't out to hurt the gays. She wasn't protesting abortion clinics, she NEVER judged anyone or called anyone a sinner. Her faith was merely a paper shield against the overwhelming fear of death that most people have. The guilt from her conversion lasts some 22 years later. Atheists, pick your battles wisely. When Grandma lays dying, that's not a good time to mention that "Pops isn't in heaven, your life was a lie and you are going nowhere after a life of wringing the Rosary, Sorry". Don't become what we hate about the religious: A Proselytizer.
I dated a religious guy once, never again. So many fights started because our different beliefs and a lot from him treating atheism as people who just haven't been informed of god. Like 'Oh, you don't believe in God? Don't worry, i'll help you.', plus meeting the parents for the first time was awkward because religion was one of the first things bought up. 'You can't prove God doesn't exist. Science only has so much research, but we're evidence of God's existence'. Yeah. Never again.
When I say this, I mean I wouldn't date hardcore devoted religious people.**** I've met people who believe in God that just don't care if people are atheists or not. Just clarifying that.
I know from experience that this is possible. My mother is Christian (Russian Orthodox) and my father is an Atheist, they are married for 20+ years now. Even more, my younger sister is baptized and believes in God. I on the other hand am completely against the Church or any form of organized Religion.
Heres how I feel about this: As an Atheist, it gives me the flexibility to do whatever I want. So If I fall for someone who is religious, but we love and except each other, than we can work it out. I wouldn't have any doctrine telling me what I can or cannot do.
I think an important question is would you date someone who truly believes you are going to hell? Sometimes, I wonder how some of my friends ARE my friends, if they believe I'm going to hell. Its something that I wasn't able to overcome until I left christianity,
Since I've been atheist, I have dated a christian once. I think I knew it wasn't working out when he told me he'd love to be the one to convert me. That was kind of hurtful.
The Bible says to not be unequally yoked with an unbeliever.
It is very interesting if you flip the question, because a Christian dating a non Christian can be a sin if the relationship draws them away Christ or sets them up to be drawn away from Christ. Having said that I know of Christians dating not Christians, and then the atheist in relationship becomes Christian. So not always a sin. From me personally I think it would be bad for my faith to date an atheist so I most likely won't. And that isn't anything against atheists, it is just how the belief difference will impact my relationship with Christ. From the atheist side I think this video sums up the situation pretty well.
As long as there is a mutual understanding and no expectation of conversion on either side, religion shouldn't be an issue. I'm in a relationship with a Christian, and we care about each other a lot and respect one another and our differing views. We're happy....that's what counts!
I married a man because we both believed, started taking it more seriously, and realized we were living in fornication. The more I read the bible the more afraid and fundamental I became. Today I am an atheist. All four of our kids are atheists. He doesn't talk much about it at all, but still believes in god. He just believes man messed up the bible. It's hard sometimes, but for the most part we just don't talk about it. We agree it shouldn't be in politics and he supports my atheism.
As a guy that has dated a christian while being an atheist now, and dated an atheist when I was a christian years ago, yes you can. It only became an issue when one or both people try to force beliefs on each other. So my advice is to not force anything, and don't try to be an a-hole like I was and say 'all you have to do is tell me to stop, but___ is why you're wrong' haha
How is it that a video that just has a small mention in God has the biggest comment wars, and a video about atheism has no arguing at all?
i believe athiests can date christians. I'm currently in a relationship simular to that. he's catholic and i am agnostic-athiest. Yes, we have had our moments and concerns fro eachother, but we have made it work thus far (4 years). I do agree that the kids thing is a BIG factor and a completely different ball game becuase u are bring more people into the picture, more specifically, people who are trying to learn for themselves. I think in the long run, a relationship can work btwn 2 different belief systems, as long as both party's can work together, and find out what is really important to them.
I can imagine meeting a person of a different religion and going into a relationship knowing that. But what happens if both are Christians, date, get married and 20 years later one becomes an atheist. If there is a hell, this is it.
Atheists can go to Heaven, if they are good people.
+Dalton Deverell that was funny
Well, Richard Dawkins is a good man. So no doubt he will go to Heaven. But by the deeds of Hitler, I don't think Hitler will be in Heaven. He will most probably be in Hell.
samay jain you are guessing about Hitler. What if he felt sorry enough during his last few minutes of life? God might see fit to forgive him. I say Hitler was a convenient Christian just like so many. His books and speeches are riddled with religious overtones. All the Christians will say he's not a true Christian. There's a lot of people that fit that bill. But regardless he was a jerk. And to me the biggest jerk and all history
Yes I agree too Hitler wasn't a good person at all. But if you want to say the biggest jerk, then I don't think it's Hitler. The biggest cruel jerk should actually be either Joseph Stalin or Sadam Hussain.
So you mean Hussain was worse??
I am an agnostic, and the girl that likes me, is Christian... and I haven't told her yet, what do I do?
Dude I'm a atheist and I am in the same boat but we disagree on so much politically and religiously I don't see how it could work but the difference is she knows and she has tried to convert me on several occasions and I told her that I just need proof
Coming from someone who has parents of two different faiths (Muslim father and Catholic Mother) who I've never once heard have a disagreement about their beliefs, I grew up thinking it never really mattered. It really doesn't always define their child though. I turned up Agnostic Atheist by the time I was in the 7th grade ._.
It is definitely a real issue. I have experienced that it is possible to date Christian girl ( or perhaps a guy if it would apply ) as long as you don't bring up religion too much. It was a little bit of a touchy subject for her, however our morals were roughly the same, and it wasn't a big concern in our relationship. You can make it work for sure, as long as the person isn't strongly religious.On a side note I really like the speakers ideas, and enjoy watching his videos!
If you as an atheist decide to date a religious person, just understand that you are taking a risk. It may be fine or it may not be. All is cool at first as the "good-enough-to-date" guidelines are the only ones in effect. However, as you get more serious, the more stringent "good-enough-to-marry" guidelines kick in and you might find yourself out in the cold if the other person is serious about religion. Beware the ticking time bomb.
A lot of it has to do with the strength of the beliefs. A strong atheist probably shouldn't date a Creationist who thinks evolution is "just a theory."
It can work. Period. Relationships take work.
Of course. In an Atheist. My girl is a christian. We have kids. There has not been an issue. So all im saying is yes. An Atheist can date a theist. I love this channel.
There was an ad for some guardian angel scam or something under the vid, and I must say, it was very moderately priced for a scam (and there seemed to be actual things they send you for "just seven dollars" and then a weekly subscription of messages from the*guardian angels" for almost 20 dollars a month..
I’m an atheist and my wife is catholic, we have 2 kids (17&15) , so we let it up to the kids to decide
CAN Christians and Atheists date? Yes. It's entirely possible for both to date each other. That's like asking 'can cheese be put on a ham sandwich?' Of course it can. There's no laws stopping that. What? You think the Cheese Police are going to come out of nowhere and bust you for putting cheese on a ham sandwich, just like the Dating Police are going to come out of nowhere and bust you for having an interest in another personally?... Yeah. Ridiculous thought, but asking 'CAN two people do something' is about equally logical.
The real question is: SHOULD they date? That's the real question being asked. And the answer here has been provided in the video. It's spot-on reasonable to ask the other of their personal nature what the limits of their tolerances are. It's also reasonable to ask how they are going to raise their kids, too. If they can do it? Great. Go dating. If they can't? Don't date. Simple as that. The only NOT simple part is finding your 'tolerance level', but that takes experience to know, and exists on both sides of the fence, not put on one or the other.
Relationships take work to function. You don't just get together and Cinderella, 'Happily Ever After' happens. Reality happens. Fairy Tails are just nice stories. If you get into a relationship? Be ready to work on yourself, and your *relationship* with your significant other.
See my problem is that I’m an atheist, and I wholeheartedly follow much of traditional Christian traditions, practices, social and political beliefs, and fully embrace like 99% of the same views for the same reasons too. The only thing lacking is god.
I’ve been turned down by like 3-5 Christians now because I’m an atheist and don’t worship Jesus, regardless of who I actually am as a person.
I’m looking to find a reasonable answer to why religious people can’t date atheists? If anything I feel god would want all Christian’s to find non-Christians, fall in love and marry them, and then instead of one lonely Christian going to heaven, a Christian and a new-found Christian go to heaven.
Anywho, it just doesn’t make sense. If as an atheist I can accept that they have different values and still love them, why can’t Christians do the same for us?
2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?