I Made Twitch Partners Pick YouTube Or Twitch
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- What is the better platform for Streamers who want to do this long term, where should we stream? Well, I asked Twitch Partners, people who all have reached that beautiful purple tick, to choose between UA-cam Live and Twitch.
Today they are answering that question from risks to advertisements, stability, discoverability, and so much more!
This video will also give you actionable advice to make your content creation career more stable in the long term, and help you pick which platform is best for you… while learning from other more experienced creators mistakes and successes.
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If you want to grow your Twitch stream, it is important to be critical. Being critical isn’t a bad thing, people say, “Oh don’t be so critical of yourself!”.
But there are a lot of things you can control and improve, such as your visuals, audio, and most importantly your content that you’re creating. Watch back your VoD and be honest with yourself, is it up to scratch. Does your mic sound good? Are you engaging? Is it easy to watch and enjoy or is there something that is off-putting? Be honest, push yourself to grow, and become a better entertainer!
Because at the end of the day, the only way you are going to grow your stream is by growing yourself and being critical in a positive way.
🕘Timestamps:
0:00 Twitch Partners Talk About The Downside of Twitch
0:40 Eljay Asks The Twitch Partners To Pick!
1:12 Twitch Partners Pick Between UA-cam and Twitch
3:37 Is UA-cam Better Than Twitch To Make Money?
4:50 Can You Grow Other Socials From Twitch?
6:45 What Small Streamers Chose Between UA-cam and Twitch
8:30 How Many Viewers Would Make You Stay On Twitch?
9:30 What Is It Like Moving To UA-cam From Twitch?
10:30 Should Creators be making Short Format content on UA-cam and TikTok?
11:14 Should Small Streamers Stop Streaming To Grow?
How To Become More Confident As A Streamer:
If you want to have zero fear of failing while you practice, what I want you to do is get your phone out or sit down at your webcam, don’t prepare any notes or stories to tell just hit record and start filming yourself, and I want you to talk for 10 minutes without stopping, without a chat to help you. Just talk and try to be entertaining by yourself.
Finish your 10 minutes, but DO NOT watch it back right away. Close your phone, go about your day, and then the next day, sit down, watch back those 10 minutes on your phone without any distractions. Just watch yourself, and then when the 10 minutes is done, hit record and film another 10 minutes. Don’t watch it, until the next day then rinse and repeat.
Repeat this process daily, not only will you become a much more confident speaker, but you’ll find it becomes much easier to fill those 10 minutes.
This is crucial that you learn to become entertaining without a chat, because often if you need a chat to be entertaining then you aren’t actually entertaining.
The style of this video is similar to Alpha Gaming and Gaming Careers in parts. A large influence on this series has come from content creators like Wild4games and Nutty.
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🕘Timestamps:
0:00 Twitch Partners Talk About The Downside of Twitch
0:40 Eljay Asks The Twitch Partners To Pick!
1:12 Twitch Partners Pick Between UA-cam and Twitch
3:37 Is UA-cam Better Than Twitch To Make Money?
4:50 Can You Grow Other Socials From Twitch?
6:45 What Small Streamers Chose Between UA-cam and Twitch
8:30 How Many Viewers Would Make You Stay On Twitch?
9:30 What Is It Like Moving To UA-cam From Twitch?
10:30 Should Creators be making Short Format content on UA-cam and TikTok?
11:14 Should Small Streamers Stop Streaming To Grow?
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Thank you so much for trying to help us.. and confirming! UA-cam it IS!
So basically UA-cam is the superior option because the ability to grow is exponentially higher than starting off as a twitch partner
I started streaming here on UA-cam almost exactly a year ago and I don't think I would ever swap to Twitch. Having streams, videos, and shorts all on the same site is just such a huge benefit, and it's gotten me way further than streaming on Twitch ever would have in this amount of time.
Also 100% take the 1000 views every time over the 100 average viewers. UA-cam would freak out seeing those numbers and keep pushing that even further!
@Tt ty there is actually a few UA-cam streamers
@Tt ty that used to be true, but streaming on youtube is becoming bigger and bigger due to some recent changes
@Tt ty started streaming on UA-cam a few days ago and it’s going well :)
@Tt ty nope! ive been uploading shorts, and invite a few friends to fill in my chat
@Tt ty eh my live streams have had better reach on youtube that i had on twitch, it just depends on how much you wanna put into making youtube videos along side your streams, which understandably you might not want to do
I would vote for UA-cam for sure! Twitch can be super stressful and it's hard to have a consistent schedule with everything going in your life (work, school, family, mental issues, illness, etc.).
As a Twitch Partner myself, switching to UA-cam hurts so much in the beginning but I know that with hard work in making great content here on UA-cam, I can make it! Thank you for this!
What I've been seeing from other content creators is that they will make UA-cam videos/shorts, tiktoks and also stream on twitch. They will put a foot into every platform and try the conversion game. Personally I do find it hard to grow on twitch, however, being on youtube everyday I have never seen a UA-cam live recommendation unless it was someone I am already subbed to so I have been hesitant to attempt a UA-cam stream
Interesting to hear some Twitch Partners' perspectives as someone who has dabbled in Twitch but still has much to learn on there
For me, streaming is more or less a hobby, although I am thankful to everyone who helped me reach affiliate on Twitch. That said, if I was serious about content creation, I would 100% stream and make videos for UA-cam (I've even had several ideas over the years but no technical knowledge to make them happen), because Twitch nowadays is far too stressful for a serious content creator (and most of them post their VODs or curated videos of said VODs on YT anyway).
Great insight and great questions, excellent video!
Honestly, I never even considered UA-cam for streaming. Twitch was always the first option. But hearing these perspectives makes me want to give UA-cam a try
I really appreciated this video! As someone who started on UA-cam vlogging, then moved to Twitch to stream video games simultaneously uploading shorts to UA-cam and occasionally live streams...I would say that it's been interesting, but tough being consistent with both! However, hoping it's worth it giving both some time.
OMG Alex! How random to see one of my favorite streamers pop up on a video for a channel I randomly stumbled upon and subscribed to a couple weeks ago. Really great thought experiment, and I very much agree with all of the opinions given by your guests.
Thanks for some references and opinions. Great to hear a bunch of takes on the topic
HEY solid content, there is so much value in your channel and i appreciate you sharing over and over again with everyone. Thank you
These are exact the same reasons I stopped twitch a month ago. (I'm a twitch partner) Making a small pause, and gonna figure out what to do next but YT is where I think I will go. Even if I have to start from 0.
This video really helped me prioritize my work a bit more! Thanks!
Just wanted to say I love your videos, and for the past 5 months I've been binging them and taking notes and writing down creative jokes and stream ideas. I start my streaming journey soon and I cant wait for it, I know it'll be a long grind but I have faith in myself and know that I have a personality that fits twitch/streaming. Much love and keep up the videos.
This perspective is super helpful, thank you! If you ever do a follow up I'd love to hear how each of these folks think through their UA-cam content and how it relates to what they love about streaming. Especially for established Twitch streamers who have found that lightning in a bottle in a streaming context (not me, my friends LOL) but struggle to figure out how to provide the same energy and value in evergreen content
Great suggestion!
This is definitely helpful in choosing which one platform I focus on more. I've been streaming consistently on Twitch for almost a year and yet I get more views and rewatchers on my 1K+ UA-cam channel than on my Twitch streams. Hell I'm lucky if I have 30 people watching me! So thanks for this video and I can't wait to see more like this
Love the effort put into this video.. and all videos you’ve made. The streamers featured really understand Twitch/UA-cam growth and have given us a great insight into today climate. Crazy to see how UA-cam has transformed over the years - from let’s play pewdiepie videos.
Great to see 8BitElliott in a stream scheme video! Guest on Stream Room when?!?
Happy holydays Eljay and chat!
I really enjoyed this video it put things in perspective. Best advice I ever got from Eljay was to just start editing.... I still suck but I have gotten better and really needed that JUST DO IT moment. I do this as a hobby but I like learning new things and have started to rewatch the how to grow on UA-cam playlist. Then I will need to rewatch the how to grown on TikTok because I just don't get it. Thanks Eljay for all the videos you make. I love the actionable tips and I recommend you to everyone I meet! I also appreciate your advice though it can be hard to swallow. Please never stop growing.
Oh I am so happy to hear that, Rue!
When anyone ever asks me to do Twitch or UA-cam I always give them this analogy
Twitch is like working fast food, you are living the dream when you are teenager but once you grow up and have bills it will be exhausting and will not be good anymore.
UA-cam is like that career job that you went to school for or had to have other life experience, yes its more work but in the long term you will be happier and will get easier as time goes on and will be something you will retire with.
Okay I really enjoyed this style of video and it was great to see so many creators featured and hearing their takes on this. Also, fwiw I would take 1,000 views on every video out of the gates every time. All other benefits not withstanding the dopamine would go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Enjoyed the video and all the opinions. My thoughts are that when you've asked people in the past about this, the reason why they've said twitch is that the people you've talked to today are larger streamers and those you've asked in the past are smaller streamers. I have 200 followers on twitch, an average of 10 viewers, and make little money now and then. I've recently started doing shorts on youtube and got a video with almost 700 views (astounding as I've only got 32 subscribers) but none of that translated to new subscriptions or to revenue in any way. Twitch makes it easy to earn a little pocket change. That said, i'm approaching this as someone who streams because they enjoy it and not for the money. I would also say that the kinds of people who watch twitch streams and those who watch youtube overlap, but they're not necessarily the same demographic. Love the content, looking forward to seeing more
Same experience here. I have 535 followers on Twitch, average 20ish viewers, and I make a mininum paycheck every month (started my channel 5 months ago). I've posted a LOT of shorts on TikTok and some on UA-cam, some of which has got waaay up 1k views and those NEVER converted into new viewers or any form of revenue. I feel that if I used that time to improve my channel I would be doing even better.
Not everyone can be successful UA-camrs, not everyone can be successful streamers and even less people can be both.
Thanks for this, it brings much more light to the confusion.
Hey! I really like your Videos. Thanks for putting all the effort into making it and talking frankly about all the stuff. I like that. I also have a question though: If you say Content, you don't mean let's Plays or something right? I'm reading everywhere something like: "The slow death of Let's plays on youtube" and this kind of stuff. Do you mean Short Highlight Videos, Shorts etc.?
Thanks in advance if you find time to answer.
kind regards
I was streaming on twitch in about 4 years, and my mental health couldn't handle it anymore. I took a break to focus on what i want, where to go.
So i decided to focus on my art and go to youtube, can just say i feeling so much better and feeling no pressure. But if i would go back to streaming, i would probably try on youtube streaming. 🥰🥰
Bro, I'm a beginner content creator from Ukraine and I struggle gaining views as a newbie on Twitch. This video literally boosted me to move from streaming on Twitch to regular 'let's play' videos on YT. Firstly I thought I'll get some comunity on Twitch, but month after start I've gained 9! followers.
Thank you so much for this vid, mate, it answered on a lot of my questions! Cheers from 🇺🇦 !
Very interesting responses. 100 consistent views on Twitch is well above the minimum for monetation in a way that 1000 isn't really on UA-cam, yet I can't disagree with the verdict here. 1000 views on every video is a lot of reach and, here on youtube, that reach breeds more reach and converts to reach elsewhere far better. I don't agree with the suggestion that I see a lot of places that streaming on UA-cam is a viable option for smaller content creators - That barrier to entry is still a lot higher than on Twitch - but putting the focus on UA-cam as a video platform where you're going to grow and find your audience makes a tonne of sense.
Yeah me and my family just recently switched from twitch affiliate and started focusing on youtube. We have gotten more traffic here than over there.
TYVM
I would for sure pick the 1k Views . As a new creator myself it is hard to get your name out there
Sick! watching it now =) Curious to see your video after you left twitch
Would that actually be interesting? I could make that.
@@StreamScheme it would be great starting from what you said on the stream room and going on with some stats on your vod content having more time to edit and create in general =)
Yeah. The guy is on point about no one wants to klick some link while watching stream. But we gotta understand that for viewer it feels like -we all hanging out here in this room, and u go to another room we got something for you there. So the viewer kinda feel like if he click the link he is gonna miss something on stream or something. Even if u want to check link u prlly just gonna come back to it after stream, but by the end of stream u don’t remember there was some link. So maybe all these links should be offered near end of stream.
I hope this makes sense
This is sort of like a take on the question "would you rather have money or have power." Pretty interesting.
At the moment I've been trying out Restream to stream on both platforms but I'm slowly trying to figure out what kinds of YT content I want to make and slowly trying to find a non-live style of content I feel comfortable playing. Atm I feel more at ease talking to the void while live than talking in a recorded video and I'm not sure how to convert that.
Early gang!!
You absolutely love to see a new vid! :D
hey @Stream Scheme, can you make a twitch video about what to be careful about towards privacy, scams, hacking/getting personal info or do you have a video like that already?
I personally started on Twitch about 2 years ago, I got to almost 1k followers, about 10 avg viewers, but around May this year, I decided to start making UA-cam videos. I grew a LOT faster with the videos, I got to 3k subs by September! At the beginning of September, I decided to make the switch and stream on UA-cam instead, and BOY AM I GLAD I DID! The first stream I ever did on UA-cam got up to 60 VIEWERS when I haven't even gotten to 40 on my own with twitch! Now I keep an average of 20-40, which is significantly higher than before and I'm happy with my choice! Especially since Twitch is trying to tank their platform XD
xD
Disclaimer: *not using my "real" content creation info here so as not to try to take away from this amazing creator*
I'm a "small" creator (I don't like to use that word because it's self fulfilling) and I'm rapidly growing on both UA-cam and Twitch.
I am brand new to Twitch but am only there to hit affiliate to get access to some fun stuff not available on UA-cam as of yet. That said, my long play is to wrap up my mini streamathon (again brand new to Twitch and normally a video creator)and then switch to a casual stream schedule.
I didn't want to mess with Twitch actually until recently and I actually am streaming to get a specific kind of content I can't get by turning video creation with nobody watching into entertainment. What I mean is on Twitch, as mentioned in the video, you can be a lot more reactive and engage live with your audience. It's a lot harder to record gameplay when solo and have the same reaction. I actually intend to use my clips and recordings from Twitch to create content on UA-cam and Tiktok.
My TLDR: Twitch is terrible for newbies, best for established creators, and mostly only good for "utility" in creating more lively content that centers around gameplay. I'm finding far more success in UA-cam and only am growing so rapidly on Twitch (I just started last week and am almost to affiliate) BECAUSE I started on UA-cam and Tiktok FIRST.
This really gives me a dillema. I want to start streaming to build a community. I don't care about the money or monetization. Is still UA-cam the best way to go or Twitch? Especially because I already have a small photography channel with 16subs and some followers (25-30) on my old-twitch channel.
Could you do a deep dive into Streamlabs Console? It's a paid service for those that don't have capture cards and use consoles to stream, they have almost no information about it on their website and when I asked the mods on discord for help with recurring issues they told me to reset the drivers and try not using their service to see if that fixes it. Their yt channel also has no info posted about it AT ALL and it seems to be that I paid them for a service that not only doesn't work but offers way less than their free Desktop version.
All the adds on Twitch will drop the 100 viewers for sure!!
does your geographical location affect the algorithm in any way? in terms of views
just curious, did you take inspiration for the thumbnail from senpai gaming?
No :) I don’t watch Harris, this is just common thumbnail concept when comparing 2 things
@@StreamScheme Actually yeah no ur right... now that i think about it i have seen this "thumbnail setup" in a lot more places.
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Definitely a great question though! I still haven't dabbled into YT yet but plan to in the future
Hi!
Could You make a video about console (xbox) streaming without a PC at all? And how to handle it properly? After the recent update I have lost my „quality” 😢 Wanted to stream at 720p but with a higher bitrate, before the update I had it set on 720p and 5000bitrate and everything was crisp, now after that update I’m stuck at 3000 and it get’s pixelated :/ And at 1080p and 6000bitrate I’m having sound loosing issues 😢
I’m at the start of the streaming road, but I want it to look good.
I had just concluded to take this approach anyways, I’m glad to confirm I wasn’t too off based on how this works now, my plan was gonna consists now in converting from my UA-cam to gain twitch followers
Question though: What if my UA-cam content is different than my streaming content? (I.E UA-cam is comedy & live streaming is gaming) should I still stream on my UA-cam channel?
do you guys go over editing videos for shorts? or could you recommend another channel that would?
Video coming soon, all short, just taking time to make it right.
Will be out next (after a few shorts as well)
Yeah, I started streaming and now I'm learning Tiktok and taking the tiptoes to UA-cam.
Can you make a video on how to make shorts on pc!
What about uploading videos AND streaming on YT. Viable strategy?
Watch my latest video or the video from a few weeks ago about UA-cam solving small streamer growth
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So as a new stream, I am completely confused by this and as a consequence I have been going forth from between youtube and twitch. Should I
a.) Stream purely on twitch, upload VOD/content on youtube?
b.) Stream and upload content on youtube, no twitch?
c.) Multistream on twitch and youtube?
d.) Content now, stream later?
I can't be a full time content creator yet, so I have to pick my decision carefully and from what I can see in this video it seems like option d is the most viable answer?
Option A is currently what I'm doing right now, but just VODs for now since I have no time yet for content (currently studying how to edit videos). But would it be more beneficial for me to completely move to youtube? From what I see do, my VODs in twitch has more views than what I have on youtube. Like in twitch they get like 10-30 views, in youtube i'd be lucky to get 5 views.
Make good discoverable videos and short format, grow an audience, go live for them.
Would you suggest moving to UA-cam at this point? My TikTok is doing great (58k) but the conversion rate to Twitch has been terrible. Also, hi!
Are you uploading consistent videos and growing a UA-cam channel properly? If so, it might be worth it.
If you're making content with no real niche, no focus, and not consistently, well it's a much bigger question.
@@StreamScheme I've been uploading some of my TikToks on here as shorts but haven't done anything long-form yet.
Welp I just started streaming on twitch, literally this week. But seeing this now is making me think of switching to UA-cam.
I mean I do have over 350 here and only have 12 followers on twitch. It should be an easy decision right? 😂
I have enjoyed my views on my UA-cam live streams. I was convinced I would try Twitch, but no, the fact that my live videos are forever VODs and my regular uploaded long-form and shorts are in the same place. It's UA-cam all the way.
PLEASE HELP
okay so I just started streaming on twitch from pc and I’m playing warzone and my chat can’t hear my teammates but I can , and when I change voice chat source my stream can hear my chat but I can’t hear anything
I recently started streaming on twitch but have been thinking if maybe youtube is a better choice for me cuz everything is at one place. But im currently worried about copyrights issues if i do go live on youtube cuz ive tried uploading my old vods where i was only playing a game but they kept saying i had copyright issues which i didnt get why i got them. And on twitch i didnt had any warnings or issues about that at all. Any advice how this all works?
Twitch has worse detection and sometimes the detection marks but won’t hit you with warnings, until one day all the strikes hit at once on mass.
UA-cam just detects far better and gives warnings better.
I’d assume you’re accidentally using copyrighted music you don’t have the rights to use currently.
@@StreamScheme do you have any tips for knowing of finding out wut u can or not play. Cuz i litterly was just playing the game and they gave a warning for the moment a soundtrack inside the game was playing. Im also wondering, does it give u a warning like that as well like during livestreams?
Cuz my main worry now is that im just playing a game live and that later after im done it gives me strikes for it when i didnt know i was alowed to.
I have a few videos on the topic :)
After finally jumping aboard Twitch a couple months ago and building my followers, it's so frustrating to hear that now I need to switch over to UA-cam live when I just got going and have to start all over. I think I'd rather stick with them for now and upload my stream VODs to UA-cam. I guess I'm holding out hope that if enough people leave Twitch then perhaps they'll get more generous with their financial deals.
I think you've misunderstood what people are saying though, they're not saying jump ship.
They're saying to make videos, real high quality videos, that increase discovery.
Just uploading VoDs isn't doing that, it's about planning out ideas, making something fun, and valuable to viewers.
And then if Twitch goes wrong, you have a stable other platform, if it doesn't, you've got two platforms.
@@StreamScheme I see. I had a feeling I might’ve misunderstood. I guess I assumed the worst after you said you were switching to UA-cam live in your last video.
I did switch :) But that is because I find UA-cam videos and streaming here more rewarding that Twitch.
@@StreamScheme Well I appreciate your honesty and transparency as I figure out the best options for the future.
UA-cam is a Safe Heaven
Broo plz send me the list of your bg music 🙏
Hello I've had this problem steaming and wandering if someone could give me advice. Every time when I'm about to steam I get nervous then that leads to me not talking much on steam. It's only been recently because I feel I'm not funny.
I streamed for about 5 years on twitch. The growth was so slow! On UA-cam I grew so much faster and I’m almost at as many subscribers on UA-cam in a year (only one video a week) as I was on twitch in 5 years.
this should be a youtube promotion video bahahahah
I see what you're doing 👀 you're trying to get me to click on a 3rd video recommend at the end hmmmmm🤔🧐😂
Fun fact... Both options mean nothing. At least at the numbers that were offered and it meaning something to their respective algorithms.
The people aspect I would absolutely love, especially the Twitch one, just to have the interaction even for a few days is nice.... Though I wouldn't be able to keep those views up since alot of what happens is people stopping by for a moment to support, and then leave. I am lucky that I do have some people that I ended up finding as friends that do pop in frequently which is good, also keeps my mind from going insane and bored at the same time when playing a slightly boring game.
The views aspect UA-cam is also not that great when its only 1k, bro I got some that are up to like 15k, 20k, and there wasn't really any change that was seen.... Of course I stream.... So..... But I do have the occasional video and its still those that stay in the 3 digit mark or only 2 digit. I am still happy that I get as much as I do because its fun to just chuckle at whatever I am editing, but after a while it just seemed like streaming helped more with that itch I have for immediate interaction and response to something that I am doing. I still try to be goofy, and I get a response right away based on the goofiness.
For the UA-cam one to really work, you would have to really tire yourself out with finding subjects or games to do a video on, you would have to basically burn yourself out trying to be funny or entertaining for each churned out video making each one after the last more n more evident of that burnout. Yes, it is alot of work to do Video Uploading/Being an Entertainer, it is also alot of work to realize that your out of material and really messed up your swim stroke down the roaring river of other content creators trying to also get by.
Take it from the guy who also ended up burning himself out even for something like streams. I used to do daily streams, at times multiple in one day. After a while it got cut to only daily, then some of the thoughts come in like "what should I play... This game?... No.. I already played that... This game?... No.. That one is a little boring and hard to try and make funny... This one?.... Ugh... Just not feeling that one... What about that one?.... Eeegh, that ones old, might as well play it on my own time." and bog the stream numbers down to like one a week. Currently, still in a mental state of wanting to pick my slack back up to daily or at least every 2 days, but it just never happens. It also doesn't help that I don't want to "network" because it just seems sleezy to me to want a friend for work or views, a little cheaty too lol.
Don't be me ladies n gents.... Do network, make money, don't burn out or even think for that matter... Like literally... Don't think, just do. The less the thoughts have a hold on you, the more you can just have fun and play around with your passions.
few types of people, twitch watchers who like random streams and interaction, and youtube watchers who watch it like the watch tv, more people watch tv like content day to day
I chose Mixer and I loved it and the Mixer community. I stopped streaming when all that merged with facebook... no thanks. Maybe I'll start up again on UA-cam.
Got it. Record videos, learn how to edit and then upload to UA-cam. When I build a following on here then start Twitch.
I'd like to have the real time interaction. Not just comment section
Do you feel that discovery and growth that comes with UA-cam would not allow you to have more interaction in the long run when you go live though?
@@StreamScheme that's a point right there that should be definitely considered. I'm still at the very start, switching platforms wouldn't do any harm at all. I guess I have to re-visit UA-cam and give it a second go.
It's true, I'm more browsing UA-cam, than Twitch. I'm only on Twitch when that one streamer I really like is online. I don't look for others, browse vods or anything. On UA-cam I really like to scroll through my feed, see if there is anything new.
I started streaming with two others together. We talk about one specific topic during each stream while playing a game. My wish is to have people joining the discussion during the livestream. Now that there are very few people even watching, there is no chat activity that could be used to expand on the topic.
Uploading a video, having it online, it always could be the case people stumble over it and writing their take on the topic in the comment section. Then we could re-visit this topic some day with some additional input from the comment section.
I just really didn't like how UA-cams live manager is build, it felt really confusing and I didn't find the easiest features without googling for it. I guess I have to invest some time in learning UA-cam.
I made the switch to UA-cam and at this point, I'll never look back. I struggled for almost 2 years on twitch just to reach almost 700 followers. I switched to YT and 3 months later... Well let's just say I am doing pretty well in that short amount of time, already hit partner, my streams to extremely better, I've been able to create a bigger community already and yeah... I gotta say imo, YT is far superior. That lack of discoverability on Twitch is depressing.
UA-cam hands down. It's how people are finding me
AYO ITS SHARKIE!
I'd take the youtube one for sure if that was a fact you could make some money not much but it would be free easy money if you only get 1000 veiws or more
its nice
Hi! I just subscribed because you help me SO much with my streams! and everything is free!! But I'd like a christmas transition! So if you could make one, it would be SO awesome!!
By watching this video i want to understand “WHY THEY DON’T CREATE ON UA-cam?” Like, if you rather UA-cam, start being a UA-camr then. You can also stream on UA-cam
Because all of these creators grew on Twitch because people said, "Twitch is the place for streams" and after growing, they realised how much better UA-cam is for consistency.
Now they're switching focus, but can't go all in because they would lose their whole audience, so its a slow transition.
I would always choose 1000 guaranteed views on UA-cam - for all the reasons everyone said in this video.
Ad revenue is nice, but those that are successful on YT, outside revenue sources is where it is at.
What about interaction with viewers? Isn't that why Twitch became popular in the first place? Isn't it why Only Fans has also become popular? Because you get to "interact" with your favorite "superstar". Of course one-sided-communication videos on UA-cam are gonna do better, but they are still one-sided though, no? Can you talk more about that? Thanks!
You’ll have a lot more interaction when you go live if you’re building an audience on UA-cam first.
Those 100 average viewers on twitch aren’t snowballing, but videos they’ll bring a lot more in, and you can go live to that large audience.
I will say I know people who get 1000s of views but can’t hold 100 live but understand UA-cam has better Algorithms to help you grow
I would pick twitch. It's easier to grow on UA-cam so it would be far raiser to get 1000 views in the first 24 hours for every video you make vs always having 100 people there when you are live.
For financial reasons YT is best ways, for interaction with you audiance Twitch is (still) the better choice.
I’d have to disagree as someone who’s done both professionally, twitch has changed a lot in the last 6-12 months that has made it much worse in those regards.
So long as Twitch refuses to copy UA-cam this will always be an ongoing issue
twitch creators... come to the light!
'I am really happy that so many people go to UA-cam, that means my chances at Twitch to grow improve'. ---> Change my mind.
If you honestly believe this is true, then I think you need to do more research into the platforms, this isn't how it works :)
You'd make exponentially more with 800/1000 viewers on Twitch than 1000 views on UA-cam
Funny. Ive had my Yt channel for 15 years and never made 1 cent. Took 5 months to start getting paid on twitch.
Twitch is easy to start, but has no sustainability or long term growth.
UA-cam is harder, but much more reward.
That’s said in the video though so I’m not sure what the comment means?
Imagine streaming on YT and your streams get 1,000 views. I think people not thinking on that. lol
I don't know the analytics of youtube but with only having 3-5 average viewers on twitch I make the small amount of $0.80-$2.00 per 4hr-8hr stream. I know that works out to about what a 20c an hour? Which is about 0.067 per viewer. It's under $7 an hour and poverty level but at the same time... UA-cam feels toxic as hell for creators, there's always a video going up from someone being mistreated via youtube that needs twitter and everything else lighting up to get support. Just recently Hutts lost over $20k because youtube messed up their back-end or something and told him "O-Well" basically.
Twitch is treating their creators FAR worse than UA-cam :) Sounds like you're just not in the social media circles that share whats going on.
@@StreamScheme Maybe? but I feel there would be more shared regardless if it is that bad. Like twitter is fueled by drama and bad takes. So social circles don't really matter.
The only right answer is UA-cam. I do marketing and just started streaming and it's pretty clear YT is the way to go. Everyone is correct in this video, if you're going to start streaming now, start on YT. As hard as it is to hear, Twitch is a dying platform and will be overtaken by YT and TikTok in gaming content and most likely even Twitter eventually. Twitch is still the go to gaming platform but it's pretty easy to see the future of each platform. Twitch would need to pull out something huge to keep competing as these other platforms match and surpass it's features.
Twitch is harder
Its not a fair comp though. give me 1k on each. Ill xchoose twitch.
I offered that and they still chose UA-cam and gave very good reason. :)
Noneof this is new news. Alot of you need to do your research before you even think about hitting that go live button, as this is ALL OLD NEWS.
My dude, that’s why this video was made, so people doing research can hear it.
Rather than one person saying it, here is a group of successful people doing what the person researching wants to do, all saying what they need.
This is literally the research you want people doing as a video.
Weird because 100 viewers minimum always watching, is 100 people to help you make better streams with ideas and suggestions. This in turn helps you make better clips, shorts and videos for your youtube/tiktok channel. Either way neither grows quickly. The real question to ask is "Are you marketable/brandable?" Millions of videos or tens of thousands of twitch members means neither has good discoverability. The true smart play is work multiple platforms. Also have patience. Only the golden ticket people have grown fast in under a year or 3. Many big players have been on twitch for 5 plus years. Network and spread your content around. Its going to always be alot of work to get ahead. Never met a big streamer that hasnt busted their butt to get where they are or just been streaming for forever.
I feel like you really overestimate 100 viewers actually means, and how many of them actually help you make better content or go watch external content.
Every big creator on twitch these days that’s grown in the current climate is from giant collabs, or external platforms.
You can almost always trace it back to those two sources.
twitch "people" seem to not even watch youtube much... they like to stay on twitch.
Why would you try to target only twitch people, when you could target the billions of users on UA-cam that would likely never go to twitch?
We are seeing massive increases in viewership on UA-cam streams from people who don’t have twitch accounts.
I’d rather have an entire ocean to catch fish in, rather than a pond with a few.
@@StreamScheme oh I agree 100 %. You Tube is my preferred go to. I think small ones like me see that easy way to get a few cents on twitch early…and don’t think about the long game.
Rather just make UA-cam content & stream on twitch. Idk anyone who watches UA-cam streams tbh.
Also almost every single one of these people have twitch merch or twitch logos incorporated into their camera scenes....
Yes, of course they have logos, they’re twitch partners, they grew and used Twitch, and their perspective is that they wished they’d focused UA-cam more.
That makes it FAR more powerful to think about, people with established audiences, partners, who work with twitch directly… would rather and regret not starting UA-cam first.
And on your note of who watch’s UA-cam streams, there is a massive audience people forget about…people who would never go to twitch, don’t have twitch accounts, but would watch a youtuber they like to like if they got the notification that they went live.
We’re seeing it constantly right now, creators move over and go live to their UA-cam subscribers and instantly have far more viewers.
Eeowna in this video was averaging 200-300 on twitch, but has managed to hit 1300 on UA-cam streams with the large majority saying they had never watched a twitch stream but like her videos and they were already on UA-cam.
@@chrismonkton1649 Honestly, we just like free stuff.