INSTALLING A TSX 6TH GEAR IN AWD ELEMENT TRANS! HSG EP. 6-37
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I love seeing RPMs go down, as the speed continues on
Mark you just proved that not all people are assholes. You are definitely a friend i would keep if i knew you. Keep it up n stay healthy. You still have a long way to help others. People are waiting for you
Make another updated driving video man!!! I know this is old but cant find any other driving with a 6th gear vid.
When it comes to Honda Transmissions,Mark is in his element. haha
Jeff McQ lmao.....
sounds like a good gain in economy not surprising considering the decent drop in rpm.
Mark
You are like a transmission god of Honda’s
Not even remotely close. If you want to see the Honda transmission God, search for Bense
I have dreams of having performance upgrades on my 5speed element. Maybe I just need to take a trip down to SC......
Wow very nice. Wish i could have that.... Along with swapping my element to accord v6. :-) im doing neither right now. Not sure if that is doable.
Found this video because aim trying to do something similar with a Mazda trans lol. Even expecting the same rev lockout issue because the donor 6 speed uses a lockout in the cabin side of the cable shifter setup and I will likely have to use my original rod shifter setup. Lucky for me 6th is opposite of this trans and is next to 1st. So no real issue with hitting it at speed.
always follow shop manual instructions.. after installing a different gear to the mix, thrust clearances and torque values should be checked...or you could be setting yourself up for failure
Just awesome! Any updates from the owner? What kind of mileage difference is he seeing? Looking for someone in the NYC/north Jersey area who can do this.
Awesome video!! Looks like I may do this mod to my element transmission..... I also have a question.... I have a k swapped integra that used to have a fwd 5 speed and I just put a awd element transmission in it..... I am having issues converting my car to countershaft speed sensor, its wired correctly and my hondata wont read it and we did change hondata to rear countshaft speed sensor.... what can I do???
Hi i;m from Ireland I like you're videos keep up the good work can 6TH be put into mk2 crv k20 2004 model any info would be greatfull
Interesting, can this be done with a early CRV AWD transaxle? Great video, Thanks
My honda fit could use this. The latest honda fits have 6 speed manual but the final drive ratio is the same. Like you said, 4200 when going 85. Kills the gas mileage. Automatic is rated better for highway miles because of this.
Fantastic vid! Thanks for posting! What is the tallest gear you can drop into the sixth slot? Looking for highest efficiency/lowest RPM at 80 mph on flat ground at sea level. I need zero acceleration in sixth, just enough to keep it moving. Greetings from NYC!
Is this process the same for the ep3 trans? I’m going turbo with my car, but I’ve been told my 5 speed gear ratios will be better for boost. I’d like to add 6th as a gas saver gear so that way I can keep my 5 speed gear ratios for the turbo.
So the AWD 5spd bell housing will fit a 6th gear in the element? I have an 06 EX-P AWD 5spd and would love to have this done.
94 Honda Civic I put two new main relays and when it's cold it starts and when it's hot it won't could it be the ECU
Thanks Mark you rock 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I have been watching UA-cam for years and never felt the need to subscribe to any UA-camr .because of the hypocrisy behind most of there channels. However you are different, a breath of fresh air in the arm pit that is society. Keep up the good work and hope your channel keeps growing
Thanks man!
Justin Edwards what are you doing with your time that you only watch hypocrites on UA-cam?
When changing out gears, aren't you supposed to measure thrust clearance and change shims if necessary?
Did you end up using part 5-6 Synchronizer Sleeve Set 23626-PNS-315? I'm considering this for my Ep3, and the part is $500 alone. I wasn't clear if that one part is actually necessary
Don't forget to pull that speed sensor because it will get stuck on the main shaft when you separate the case.
How are you does a civic si or tsx 6speed tranny bolt straight onto the element
Very informative great video
I just did this conversion along with a new clutch. All the gears work fine. Except 6th gear. It will go in no problem. But as soon as you press the gas, it pops out. Can you help?
that is really cool 6th !
bro amazing info
At the end of the video you briefly touched on reinstalling the speed sensor. But at 4:00 where you magically cut to having the case split, you never mentioned that if you don't remove it now, you'll break it off when you pull the case apart.
Hello there I don't know if you will see this. but do you know if you can use the element shifter in a different honda vehicle. I like how it points upward to mount on the center consol. the trans itself is already a 6 speed but I didn't know what modifications I would have to do with the shifter itself thats on the center consol. ok thanks!
Hi, will a civic si 6speed and a tsx 6 transmission bolt straight onto the Honda Element? Will it fit
my 06 accord 5 speed hit 3100 rpm at 80mph , and my buddy 06 tsx 6 speed hit 3500 rpm at 80mph. the accord and element from those year have almost same engine right? and probably the same trans too right?
I ordered a 6th gear kit from jntuned, just to make sure you are driving it locks you out so you don't accidently put it into reverse?
This gear ratio today with a 4.058 final drive would have been awesome
Thanks you have the best videos. 👍👍👍👍🇵🇷🇵🇷
What was the overall cost? I wanna do this. 5th gear sucks at highway speeds
Wow thank you for this video! Elements should have came with a 6th gear from the beginning!
dear kind sir....I want to do this to my Chinese 250cc it will be port and polished and bore to around 300 or past...76x65 so my question to you is...can we find parts such as yours for motocycles if so were should one search im seeing this is car parts..
In theory can't u just swap over half of a tsx casing with the tsx gears for instance onto the crv or element main half of the transmission since everything's the same and the only difference being is u would need to use a tsx shifter that way u get the shifter lock out and the speed sensor stays the same plus u get half of a light weight magnesium case
You can do this with a crv transmission right? Going awd in my hatch and picked up a jdm crv transmission
Wonder how hard it'd be to do this on an 08 CRV 2wd.... Where at in SC, I'm in Charleston area
So literally all I've gotta do being I've got a complete 6 speed Rsx transmission and a 5 speed awd transmission is drop my gear stacks from the Rsx 6 speed and final drive into the 5 speed awd transmission with zero problems? Literally drops right in?
Hey guys. I've got the transmission pulled out of an 03 CRV. Anyone know of i can use the synchros out of an RSX base or type s?
I just got my element back with this mod done. The Element ALWAYS needed a 6th gear on the highway. My RPM's dropped 800 with that extra gear at highway speeds. It wasnt cheap but the fuel savings should be worth the expense.
Did you have a shop do it? What kind of cost was it? Been looking at getting one of these little cars but I see a lot of people complaining about the 5 speed ratios
@thesuperderp1379 Yes I paid a shop recently when my transmission died. I paid too much 995.00 for the 6th gear mod parts only new clutch, synchros, new cv azles. Total cost 3700.00. The value of the car isn't much more. Honda went on the cheap and left 6th gear out. This mod doesnt give you a reverse lockout, so you have to be careful. It is easier to shift from 4th to sixth than 5th to sixth with this mod.
Just drove 1700 miles at 4200 rpm. How much did adding 6th cost, and who did it for you? I am in Houston, TX
Thanks
@paolosheaffer9540 Terry's auto clinic in Milledgeville. This was his first conversion, but he specializes in manual transmissions. Now, he broke my speed sensor and charged me for it. You have to remove it before pulling the cases apart. The problem with the mod is you dont have a reverse lockout and sixth is right next to reverse. I find it easier to shift from 4th to sixth instead of fifth to sixth as you avoid accidentally hitting reverse.
My element is the AWD version. The Honda element owners forum online has a list of the patrs you need. I had a full transmission rebuild with new synchros , clutch, cv axles and this mod 3700 bucks. 995 he charged for the mod parts included in that 3700.
@@ShadetreeJetski Thank you!
Mark what kind of mpg’s increase did u get with the added 6th gear ??
hey i have type r 6 speed already would i be able to use the internals of that to put in crv transmission for awd swap?
I wonder if adding 6th would work on my d-series
Hi, is it possible you to place all parts codes to order from Honda? Thanks
Hey I like to know where are you guys located and what’s the cost of the 6th gear conversion and when can you do it
so if I would buy transmission AST5 (6MT Accord 7) everything would fit, right?
i have an entire tsx transmission. what else do i need to get 6th gear working on a honda element?
Hey Y'all. Are you still doing this work? I am interested in adding a 6th gear and will be driving down to FLA in March. Let me know if you might be able to fit me in and what the costs would be. Thanks!
also how long does it take to do the 6th gear conversion hours wise?
Can i just buy a k24a2 instead of an a4 and use an element transmission with the 6th gear mod?
I didn't know you were in SC as well. It'd be cool to have you do some work on my (former) nationals C-Street S2000 or do this swap on my Element once I finish the K24A2 swap.
Can a tsx 6 speed transmission work in a 2011 Honda Accord?
i have a first gen 2008 acura rdx.. do you think that trans can get 6th gear.. k23?
good job..
NOTIFICATION SQUAD!!!!
From the synchro up isnt sliding off mine any ideals?
I would love to upgrade my 2004 Mazda 6s 3.0L V6 5 speed manual transmission to the 6 speed manual.
That's awesome I wanna swap my auto to 5 speed
Also if the VSS touch the gear, I believe 3rd gear, it will ground out the car. At least in the 05/06 DC5 as I was plague with it for the first 3 mins hahah
Love my manual cars but I would love to convert my 5 speed auto element to a 6 speed auto.
would this be the same process for a EP3 5spd?
Are you still doing these 6 speed swaps? I want to upgrade my 5 speed manual.
Can you add a 6th gear to an automatic transmission on a Honda element?
Hello, will the installation of a 6th gear work on a 2004 Honda Element LX automatic? If so, is there any additional parts that I would need? Thanks in advance.
I doubt it would work with an automatic. Manuals are a lot more simpler designs, and automatics are relatively complicated
Damn see this now i can't fucking wait to install my LS 5th gear in my B16 trans. =)
Did a video on that. 😉
Nice! Just got an Element with 5sp manual myself. Hard to find in the EU. What about a Odyssey 7sp CVT swap possibility?
Does the EU Odyssey you are referring to have a K24? The ECU will obviously be an issue in that situation.
Can I do this to a base rsx with a factory 5 speed?
does the 8th gen accord 6 speed fit crv gen2?
hey mark can you rebuild my 6sp trans in my 2008 acura tlS? i can bring it to you
what would you charge for this 6th gear mod using the proper selector ?
Yeah. Price please
Have you had any issues with it popping out of 6th gear (at random while driving)? That is what mine does and I'm not sure what to try first.
because you cannot reuse the sychro in the trans you have to get the proper one. they give shit advice.
Can i do that with a 2002 civic si ep3 ?
I just finished doing this on my 2006 CR-V. As Mark said the fact that Honda did not do this from the factrory is a conspiracy level WTF. Huge thumbs down for Honda. A few notes about the 2002-2006 CR-V process is the gear selector from the donor TSX will NOT drop into your CR-V. The mounting holes do not line up. However there is hope as the CR-V gear selector piece has a blank mold of where the solenoid "should" go. With the proper drilling and measurements I think the reverse lock out could be transferred over to the CR-V. Wiring would be simple - run a 12V lead to the solenoid, and install a "normally closed" push button on your shifter. The lockout is not necessary, but it would remove the stress of shifting into 6th. The shift from 5th into 6th without the lockout is a problem. I end up going back into 4th because the shifter mechanism likes to return to center when it leaves 5th, which screws up my alignment with 6th. With some practice this is not a problem, and yes I did buzz reverse trying to go from 4th into 6th after missing 6th, and I've been driving/racing stick for 22 years. I would very much like the lock out. All that aside this is an amazing mod for Elements and CR-Vs. I used a 2007 TSX 6 Speed ($350 on Craigslist) for this project.
Mark thank you for posting these videos. Checkout Harbor freight and get a hydraulic press, and some snap ring pliers using online discount coupons. It'll run you about $150, and save you a lot of hammering, and gnashing of teeth.
my 2004 Element has gone about 200K miles, since 2007, w/o the reverse lockout, no issues. and i also have the Buddy Club short shifter.
Dan Pearson Awesome - if it can be done I'll do it, if not I'll still be happy. Practice will mitigate the need for a lockout.
I am guessing you have the 2.4 L engine. whats your rmps with the 6th speed at 80 mph?
@@AndresGarcia-jm2nw around 3500
@@jim011101 Nice! how long did it take you? Any idea if or how to make the 1st speed lower,, like more for crawling?
@HondaStreetGarage did you make a driving video?
can you do also b series transmission?
hey can you make a video about the difference of kpro vs hondata and what application is used for what
PLEASE XD
no need to make a full video about that. hondata is a company that makes a chipping kit for a stock honda ecu. they come in 2 types. the s300, for b, d, h and accord/prelude f series engines. kpro is used for k series engines and can be retrofitted to s2000s. both types are used to tune the ecu in the same manner. plug in a laptop and tune away
I think he mean ktuner. It’s a huge debate with the new 10th gen civics.
Hondata makes kpro
Was your boy running Honda mt fluid, looks darker than usual.
the syncro sleeve theres 2 styles one style has a rib for 6th the other wont hold in gear sone 5 speeds dont support it so u need the syncro sleeve to
And one else with this info?
80 @ 3000. VTEC not engaged = better mileage. Very nice.
Cost???
Also no VTEC engaged in the element means a LOT quieter highway mileage. The damn low VTEC engagement means the 5spd is droning at like 65 mph on the highway. It’s so F’ing obnoxious.
Will this work on my 02 EP3?
What’s that big ass plastic piece for???
So I see everyone adding 6th gear ,I have both trans getting ready for conversion am I better off swaping all gears or just 6th
Check out a gear ratio chart and see what suits your needs. See which one has a taller final drive.
Any idea if civic R18 5 speed can be swapped to HRV 6 speed trans?
If it can that HRV trans isn’t going to be cheap to acquire. That’s a really, really rare transmission.
Hi i seen ur video on how u put 6 gear on a element. Can it be done on rsx 5 speed transmission. N r the sincros the same
I wanna know this too.
Bump
oh man I wish I had the skills to do this, I know my way around a car...but tools, shop and buddies to help me? i dont have that....my E is also only front wheel drive too, guess I should just replace the call all together haha
U are the fkn man
My brake fluid cap is fine, Mark. Unless you broke it... Did you break it? You broke it didn't you? Didn't you?! Damnit Mark, why did you break it? It's not broken, at all, not even a little.
Im assuming thats a pci side skirt kit? What front lip is that on the EJ1? btw it'd be cool to meet up sometime, i also live in the South and our cars would be good competition for some friendly road racing. My EJ1 is N/A H22A but ugly as shit compared to yours.
Got to ask have yall ever thought about painting a car other than white?
What do you charge to do this?
Can you make J series transmission tutorial.
God damn it I'm sitting here at 915 pm wanting to take my e to my friends right now and do this
Did you have to change the ECU to a TSX?
With manual transmissions the ecu has nothing to do with it. Only an issue with automatics.
How much do you charge to do this to a manual AWD transmission?
More than what its worth. done youself around 4k with all parts Its much cheaper if you do it yourself obviously. or you will be out more than 10k for labor plus 4k in parts
where is your shop
How come u can't just buy a tsx trans if u want 6 gears can u not bolt to a element motor ?
The element trans is AWD