Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio - Reasons To Buy It In 2023!!
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2023
- The Giulia Quadrifoglio is an absolute beast of a car It runs a 2.9 V6 twin turbo engine producing 500 bhp through the rear wheels. This is a serious car and the MY2020 Giulia quadrifoglio has a slightly different interior to the previous model, with MY2024 coming soon it raises a question around if the first generation Giulia QV is now a bargain buy and should you get one an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio in 2023?
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Own a 2019 QV with around 8 months now. Will be keeping it for at least 4 more years and replacing it with another one. Iv had over 10 performance cars over the years including 3 M cars. The Quad is the best driving experience iv ever had. Amazing ,special, glorious car.
I owned a 2017 Giulia QV for a short spell last year, and covered 10,000 miles in just 4 months, before then switching into a G80 M3. At the time, I felt as though I was missing out on some of the modern tech and creature comforts that BMW offer (having had a few fast BMW's before the Alfa), but I was quite disappointed. I didn't have a bad word to say when I switched out of the QV, but after spending some time in a nearly new BMW, I realised just how much better the Alfa was at delivering an engaged, authentic, and special driving feel.
I don't think it's just a BMW related problem, but instead all new cars are feeling incredibly electronic, silenced, and detached. No doubt the G80 M3 was a great machine that's hugely capable, but in terms of an all-round driving experience, I wasn't sold. I ended up keeping it for 7 months (which would have been far less, if I hadn't spent a fair bit getting some noise out of the car) and am now in a Pre-OPF Vantage. The AM has that engaged, special feel but with 3 doors and double the price tag of a QV. Once I've got my high-end 3 door sports car fix, I'll definitely be going back to the Quadrifoglio. With some PS4s and an Apple CarPlay integration, you can't beat it for the money.
That, ladies and gents, is a golden story of why you should never sell a Italian RWD Ferrari powered sedan ;) ... Good luck finding and going back to a true sports sedan :)
@@mishview we all learn from our mistakes!
Exactly. Numbers don't tell the whole story. The way a car feels is more important than anything. It is the best luxury sports sedan chassis ever made.
Welp, that's what 5 billion euro and Ferrari engineers on staff gets you ;)
I stopped buying new cars after 25 years - bought a lightly uses Quadrifoglio and life is transformed!! WHAT a machine. Pure, so exciting to drive, can do the daily stuff, do 35mpg on a motorway, then be a complete animal when you want it to. Switchable exhaust valves fitted, lowered suspension - absolutely sorted.
Literally just bought one three days ago and it is incredible
Congrats! Superb cars I’m my opinion!
Congrats! What color and year?
@@StefABtv your videos were a contributing factor to me making the decision, got a May 2020 model with 13k miles, in red with yellow calipers, carbon steering wheel and remote exhaust valve controller. Am still coming to terms with how good it is, the steering alone is worth the price of admission
Congrats! 🎉
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 2020 in red with yellow calipers
Everything you’re saying is 100% spot on. I have a first generation which I got for a deal and approaching 75,000 miles with no regrets! Just feels amazing when driven in anger 😡
Bang on and excellent timing if only as affirmation. I bought a late 2018 QV with balance of Alfa Care 5 year Warranty a week ago and it is a sensational car. I drove one briefly back in Feb 2017 and knew instantly I had to have one. Now I have one it exceeds even my high expectations 🍀🏁🇮🇹👍
Great review Stef and you are 100% right. My QF is now a huge part of my life - I absolutely adore every mile. What a machine!
Thanks for uploading this while we await the MY24 to launch! I see Giulia QV content I click like!
The Giulia Quadrifoglio is still the best looking sport sedan, and probably the most enjoyable car of its category. The sound of the V6 is so great.
Nice sweater also, I want the same!
Got it from the Alfa museum in Italy when I visited. Felt fitting to wear it for the video lol
I've always had a love for this car. It's glorious.
I have a 2018 Giulia QV and can confirm the Apple Car Play works well and satisfies any shortcomings of the infotainment system. Very nice review!
Alfa has been perfecting this car. We have a saying in Portugal that is :" If the team is winning, dont change nothing". Its more or less that.
I’ve read lots of comments from other owners stating “…have had lots of top brand performance cars and this is the “best…”, well, I concur! I’ve been lucky enough to own quite a few illustrious branded sports cars myself and am also of the opinion that the QV is a memorable and very special experience (with Michelin Sport 4 S tyres unless you live somewhere dry and warm) - 3 years ownership and my next daily wont replace it but rather live along side it… Good things Stef!
Why has it been forgotten like it never existed, if its that much good???? You see, Alfa is like a one night stand situation, pure garbage!!!
@@duffydon1741 ever driven one?
Loved my e39 M5 and equally my e92 M3 but noticed the decline in BMW which led me to my last BMW purchase (2017 M2). Bottom line is the company lost the essence of what building a true drivers car was about and combined with poor reliability on a car not 3 years old I was done with them.
Bought a 2018 Alfa Quadrifoglio and it was a revelation, everything the M2 wasn’t in terms of feedback, handling and most importantly making you feel special when driving it.
I get an Alfa isn’t for people like you. German brands like BMW are a safe choice, the cars look good on your driveway and it portrays an image that you think impresses people.
The Quadrifoglio doesn’t turn every head, just the ones that matter. Enjoy whatever you want but why waste your time searching out videos on a manufacturer you don’t like and don’t have the capacity to appreciate, weird?
Or Goodyear F1 supersports! Could never get the Michelins in the right size.
@@duffydon1741 lol, has it been forgotten? Its certainly a lot rarer to see compared to its “competitors”…
@@miguelvazgraca nothing rare about it, the people that can afford it are disinterested because they know its a pile of worthless junk, zero resale value, they will put their money on something that they know will at least bring back something!!
This IS the ultimate drivers car. Period! 🍀
Stelvio Quad is a great one too
@@ZeroG it is, and quicker off the line as well.
@@chasinglimits Especially if you are willing to try brake boosting on $15000 carbon ceramics lol
Wouldn't it be funny if you paid $1 million for a new 33 Stradale and also it had no launch mode 💀
@@ZeroG It’s actually 1.7 Million lol so even worse!
I love my custom spec custom ordered 2017 Giulia Quad....First year cars were 1 inch LOWER from the factory !! Ordered the CARBON CERAMIC BRAKES and Comp Red ....40000 flawless miles....
FORZA ALFA BABY !!!
I've wanted on of these refined beasts since I saw one in a parking lot three years ago. They're beyond my means but that can't stop me from lusting.😉
Love the video, and the car Stef!! Never actually been able to test drive one, every time we’ve tried to arrange with a Scottish dealership there’s always an issue with them getting a hold of a Guilia or Stelvio QV. We’ve raised with Alfa UK numerous times over years, to no avail. We’ve been previous owners of Alfas which we loved a great deal, but our hands have been pushed into ‘other’ performance brands that we’ve never really had the same love affair with 😢. However ……. we’ve ordered a Maserati Grecale Trofeo, due to be here within next two weeks and can’t wait. Real shame about not being able to get into an Alfa again, but a bit pissed with their attitude truth be known, although!!!! Will always love their product 🤷♀️. So RS5 going, thank crunchie, bring on our Italian stallion ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Sorry to hear you had that experience :( but your new car will be great too!
No new model due Stef, it’s gonna be another parts bin job, just like the Abarth 595!!! You’re out in that QV but you could’ve tried mine at 600bhp running Michelin Pilot Sport 4’s!! The American market is dead, they’re all jumping on the bandwagon and buying the pig fugly M3! I think the MY24 will be the last version of that car cos the platform is dead. They really stopped the development of the QV by building the GTAm and GTA, why would they build a rocket pushing 600bhp when they haven’t sold all the GTA versions?
Mmmmm... fun!
Right thats it, I have to get one of these!
The Giulia is awesome. I may consider to Voloce as my next Alfa.
I was in the Volvo V60 Polestar - 3.0 6 cylinder version - I'd have waved if I'd known it was you Stef ! ;-)
Just watched an Italian video and they have the new model out with LED lights worth waiting for
It truly is a special car.
You are true, I’ve just bought one to park it next to my spider 4c in my garage.
Currently top of my list as a next car after the PCP ends on my current 124 Spider. Special, special car.
I went from 124 to Quad (short stint in GR yaris in between) it’s a great car, 124 and quad would be a great 2 car garage!
@@jdas03 i have a gr yaris and tempted to go for the quad. But i do love the gr. light and nimble vs power
Had my 2017 model for two years and love it. Not really much difference between the different model years. The earlier ones are a bit rawer/more noise (no GPF), bit sharper steering feel etc. Later ones have Car Play etc. Can be either loud and lairy or quiet and comfortable. Would also recommend switching the standard Corsa tyres for something like MPS4S's.
what did you trade it in for?
@@joedimaggio3146 I've still got it.
You forgot to mention, the 2020 MY and newer added port injectors in addition to direct, meaning they will not have the carbon buildup on the back of the valves AND they have doubled the overall capacity of the fuel injection system.
Best sedan on each. Period.
Honestly my favourite car would love to own one in the future but whether that day will come im not sure
When all you hear is people moaning about how certain manufacturers are soulless, and have no feel etc, they are the exact reasons to buy this awesome car. It’s so special, and in this day and age this is a diamond in the rough. I urge anyone to go and have a test drive. The school run will never be the same again.
Im going for a model year 20. Plus next few months with 3/4 year pcp coming to an end should be a few more about and the new 24 year hopefully drop price by 3/4K on the current price
Great to see you back in a Giulia Stef. I’d pick a late 2018, or a 2019 model as they have foldable rear seats (with a middle seat), and Apple CarPlay/Android auto. I’m not so keen on the so called facelift with the black scudetto grill and dark rear lights.
So the newer ones dont have foldable seats? :O
@@dedude7075 I was a bit unclear. Foldable rear seats appeared in the second half of 2018 hand have remained since. I'm just not too keen on the blacked out grill that came with the 2020 "facelift".
@@roadofplenty237 thank you for clearing it up. Would you be so nice to answer another question, regarding a supposed eco mode in the QV? I dont know where I heard it but its supposed to "turn of" 2 cylinders and drive on "V4" saving fuel on long range.. but I cant find anything on it? Is this a real thing?
@@dedude7075It actually turns off one cylinder bank (don’t remember which) if certain conditions are met. You can feel it vaguely when driving, but the switch is really seamless. Looking at the instant consumption meter when I was driving didn’t give me the impression that the cylinder deactivation was really saving much fuel in the Stelvio anyway. Perhaps the lower wind resistance of the Giulia makes the cylinder deactivation more effective than in the Stelvio.
@@roadofplenty237 wow, so its true! Is the deactivation time limited by any chance?
True, in the gulia it could be more significant. Thank you so much!
Getting a used Quadrifoglio is a huge risk though. These cars are often driven pretty hard and it is hard to tell the exact extent of abuse.
I get what you are saying, mine has 36k miles on it, done 2 track days, and get's driven with some vigour occasionally in short bursts, 99% of the time tho it is babied and driven pretty gentle tbh, that is what makes these cars so awesome, the fact they can go from a timid daily to a track weapon in the flick of switch :)
As a result I would say this car gets less hammer than your average GTi by a massive margin, you would have no licence left if you hammered this everywhere :D
@@PhantomMark thanks for the reply and good point
As a used car, this advice makes sense. But those dismissing everything except the original, are big on placebo. Every car gets refines and that does not mean at all that the original is the best. Anyway, MY24 gets an improved LSD as well.
I own a 2017 quad and never want to sell it 😂
Hi Stef do you think i should swap my gr yaris for the QV i think it’s the only car in the same price range that i would
A Beautiful car
Sold my B5 RS4 and my R26 so I’m looking for a new car !!
B5 RS4 is a brilliant thing! Giulia QV is a great car. Much more loose at the rear though lol
Alfa are currently building MY22 Quads - it's actually MY23 we are waiting for although they have been announced for the rest of the range. The Quads have been delayed due to the Quadrifoglio centenary and Autodelta 60th year celebrations this year. There will never be another car like the GQ from Alfa or anyone else because manufacturers have been forced to move away from anything fun to building dull cars with massive horsepower numbers. Sad but true.
Lovely cars these Giulia's these are definitely on my shortlist as a 'if i have the money one day'. Would you go for a manual or automatic?
Can only get auto in the UK. But I really like the ZF box on the auto
@@StefABtv oh thats a bummer. ZF it is then. Thanks for the video Stef. Any project car videos comming up? Really enjoyed the Mini and Smart videos back last your tbh. Maybe some Punto Abarth coverage would be cool as a new project daily.
I didn't like this video stef...I LOVED it!! 😂
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Would you be able to get a QV from Alfa for a good test drive in dry, warm weather. It seems all your QV drives are in very cold and wet weather that's far from optimum for the Pirelli P-Zero tires.
👌👌Top quality 👌👌
Cheers dude
@@StefABtv You are always welcome mate
But wait! I just watched the spin for the new 600hp touring, OMG! But will it happen? I'm sure you'll keep us posted... 😊
I would love that to happen! But it’s CGI the videos going round. Pretty sure it’s not official. I hope to be proven wrong!
I definitely can’t recommend the early QVs. They updated the engine from DI to DI and port injection. The DI only cars suffer badly from carbon buildup if you often take it on short trips
Not to mention the lower quality interior trim and electric gremlins
I'm tempted by one but don't think the customer service is up to scratch
oh many cars I have had, this car is TOP, now that I switched to electric I can no longer do gas
Top🍀
This is my dream car. I was wondering whether you would recommend the manual over automatic since the manual is more engaging? I'd really appreciate your feedback on the manual if you've driven one. Because I really want to buy this car but there're hardly any reviews of the manual QV, which makes me want to have the manual even more since that's even rarer
Do they even still make manuals? I think I've only seen it on older models
You don't have to change something made by Michaelangelo. You leave it alone. Alfa has kept this car special and its very special at that.
Despite what you are saying, there were significant changes with the base dynamics of the Giulia Q during the years.
Placebo
I had a 2017 Giula QV and it was the business but the gearbox was annoying and you couldn't put it in reverse/neutral easily. The 2020 update sorted this with a better shifter. The 2020's ICE is much better and I prefer the non fuss HVAC controls- proper dials. I had a 22 Giula that I just sold and I miss it already! They get under your skin like no BMW ever could. I only sold it as my wife wanted another car!
Sounds like you had a dodgy box tbh mate, been driving the ZF8 in BMW's before my QV, and we still have a F25 with the ZF8, never a single issue ever, the first autobox I have never shouted at !! Give it another go mate, they are awesome machines for this money.
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Be grateful - when Alfa facelift a model, they usually f*ck it up. Look at the 164 Super or the 156. The sainted Giulia still looks as good as it always did
Also the early ones only had 4 seats, so if like me and have 3 kids one has to stay at home :-)
I’d say the 2017-19 are the best. The earlier models are mush rawer, lighter and have the original front end suspension set up…..which was modified in the later year cars to placate morons.
I have 17 and it’s amazing… but the 18 is probably the best bang for buck with the minor tweaks (CarPlay, 5 seats) if you care for that! Either way amazing car and unbelievable they are down at 30 odd k
Placebo. It's like the BMW fan bois always praising the earlier models. The fact the GTA is based on the MY19/20 upgrade says it all.
After owning most of the old school 3.2 V6 Busso engine models, as well as a stage 2 Megane RS Trophy for almost 4 years, a Giulia QV ....with the MANUAL gearbox is the ultimate car-porn experience for me :))) .. hopefully one day... before they crash them all 😅
And most will crash them for sure!
The Volvo V60 Polestar @ 5:00 gets my vote... especially in that weather!
If you want a car that has no soul sure, that why Audi and Polestar and modern (not earlier) BMW's exist...
The main problem for me would be the fact that the Giulia Quadrifoglio is only rear wheel drive (compared to the Stelvio Q which has Q4). Seeing how easy that thing looses grip on a wet surface scares me if I would drive it as a daily.
It will only lose traction hugely in race. In dynamic it will cut the power of the slide is too much and hold some power back in natural so very usable but you can use it like a pure drivers car in race. The whole
Video was filmed in race in the rain on p zero corsas so it looks worse than it is lol
P zero corsas are terrible in wet. Swap those out for Conti SC 7 and it'll be fine in wet.
I was recently braking from about 180mph quite sensibly, and then the ABS kicked in for the last 100yrds and I slightly overshot and got too deep , it reminded me to wind my neck in a little bit in this car, it is an absolute raw weapon, I love the fact that when I turn all the nonsense off it delivers a pure drivers car experience with enough scare factor to force you to respect it, that said, this thing will dance happily sideways on track in 3 digit speeds with complete ease, awesome car.
It needs that scare factor to force your respect, so you don't drive it like a div everywhere :D
This is the car you don’t sell !! Pay it off store it in a garage then buy a Porsche or something else fast . Nothing with 4 doors is better! Go stage 2 or 3 and it destroys everything out there! Only way I’ll sell is for the 2024-2025 model when it comes out but would be nice to have both variants. I’ve owned AMG’s a Ferrari Roma and no one is more passionate than Alfa owners about their cars . Everyone else were snobs especially Amg owners lol . As soon as my lease on the Amg was up I picked up a quad and this is the best 4 door car I have owned
ALFA ROMEO 💯
First gen here in Ca 20k
If I could afford it....
Steering wheel is too thin for me I wish that it was thicker
I have noticed many of these with not many miles and multiple owners and wonder if it is too much power for most people in 2WD guise. If they were to bring out an AWD/2WD (technology already in the Stelvio) they may sell more of them.
I had my Quadrifoglio for just over three years and I loved it to bits (just the perfect drivers car, something I felt BMW lost - was a huge M car fan).
TBH I did sell the car for exactly the reason you mentioned. It wasn’t the fact it was RWD, it was I found I couldn’t use anywhere near the full power of the car on the public road. I’m now blatting around in a GR Yaris which for the twisty back roads where I live is just perfect although I do miss that Alfa so much.
Cheapest one i found is 50k here in germany 😢
Can someone please explain in detail what's the difference between 1st gen and 2nd? Other than double the price? If 1st gen manual or automatic transmission?
Model year 20 cars the one I’m driving in this video has:
Different rear lights, better sound insulation, different infotainment. Slightly different interior trim. It also gives you options for an akrapovic exhaust which you can buy for a gen 1 and exposed carbon roof.
@@StefABtv thanks, you're right that doesn't sound like much.
Let's add the rest: updated suspension, not as direct steering, port & direct injection which increases fuel consumption by 5mpg, lowered by around 5mm compared to the 2018 my, more quiet exhaust note because of the regulations, wide android auto screen, no alcantara insert in the seats. Generally, the later generation cars are more refined, not as sharp / fun to drive.
@@pplaciii "not as sharp" is placebo
I'll get it when I win the lottery
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Something about this car
It’s just mega
Looks great but well above my budget 😢😢
35k
Lool.he wasnt in a rush he was in a v60 polestar im surprised you never see what it was knowing cars u missed out a little competition there lol
really want one and I actually have the money... but I need to use the money to buy a house, not a car... so sad
Right decision though. House first then car :)
The Alfa QV is the last of the breed of performance saloon car, Alfa is starting off the future with Tonale hybrid. The emissions will kill off the Gulia QV in 2025 Alfa will stop production of Gulia and Stelvio. Stellantis own Alfa with hybrid being more expensive to do r and d, remember the true Alfa gulia stelvio. I fear Alfa in future will be rebadged car from another manufacture as r and d for new car costs so much. There will never be another Alfa with same driving feel as the QV. Stef be interesting comparison if you got new BMW and Mercedes and Alfa drove them back to back on a track I would bet the Alfa would be faster. Even with 200 HP less than German car. No matter how much you try and engineer out certain handling traits if car is 2 tones and other 1500 then lighter less powerful car will be faster as lack weight makes up for less power with more agility. No matter how good cars electronics driver aids they will never compensate for the thing makes car handle well when recipe is correct. The German cars may be generation ahead in terms of technology. They have something that the Alfa QV will never have the weight. All more hp does is make you go faster in straight line, lighter car with less hp can go fast everywhere.
A lamborghini urus is almost as dynamic as a clio rs trophy and twice the weight so not always true
Bought one, loved it, tracked it, crashed it (breaks fail fast) - bought a Ranger Raptor - 100 mph speed bumps - both fun - live life - Alfa rocks
You will crash the raptor soon?😂
Earlier cars have the carbon roof as well, which I believe they stopped on the newer ones ? and the BMW's continue getting uglier and uglier, which is why I bought by Quad in the first place :D
Yes, during pandemic unless you can option the exposed carbon fibre roof, it is steel. And the full black leather interior is also from the Veloce.
@@nessuno5403 iirc pre 2019 cars came with the carbon roof standard (Quads not Veloce)
@@PhantomMark correct, and painted in some markets
Just remember that it is a Ferrari engine...in EVERY sense ;)
Its more of a alfa/ Ferrari engine because both alfa and ferrari developed it
It was inspired on the Ferrari F154 V8, but otherwise it is Alfa Romeo's own 690T engine
Pal look up dodge scatback and find out why they don't sell well in USA to us that's feminine
Lost traction to 60MPH loll
It’s lively 😂
Those hideously clashing canary yellow calipers ruin the look. WhyTF do they do that?
You can (or could) have red, black, or silver callipers if you want. My Giulia was this colour combo and I think it's awesome.
They are the Best colour.
$85k is overpriced car.
U broke
I was in love with my Giulia and Alfa Romeo as a brand, however, I will never again buy/recommend another Alfa Romeo in my life. I had the brake by wire system fail on me and it caused me to crash and total the car. They sent someone from Bosch to diagnose the vehicle and in the charts it clearly showed that something malfunctioned (brakes were slammed 2 seconds before the impact at 40 MPH and it took more than 1.5 seconds for the speed to start going down.) Stellantis told me that they were not going to take responsibility for it and that I needed to have my insurance pay for the vehicle. Absolute garbage. I will never recommend this car brand to anyone again!!!!!
Aaron C you are a *TROLL* who really needs to stop spamming every Alfa Romeo video! If what you claim even happened, there's always 2 sides to every story and you cry because you didn't get what you want (full replacement instead of insurance market value?). You're alive... think of fatalities due to proven engineering shortcomings in any car unfortunately, like Audi TT (aero instability) or Tesla (erratic autonomous driving) as examples. Again, if true, you crash a car and *blame a system used by other manufacturers* which is not known to have caused problems to anyone else. Who says you didn't crash due to your inadequate driving skills? GROW UP AND STOP SPAMMING, TROLL and be ashamed you've been dismissed on Alfa forums too.
I am an "Alfista", but unfortunately this is the real lack of Alfa, terrible assistance, they had to compensate everything and apologize for having put you and the people traveling with you in danger. Unfortunately, some managers don't understand that the best marketing would have been to pay you back everything. However, if you have proof of the manufacturer's defect you should report them to court and force them to pay compensation.
No reason to buy this dump!!
Lol why is it a dump?!
@@StefABtv Stef, i have loads of respect for ya work man, deep down you know this amazing car is a failed project. Alfa is just not cutting it, at all.
@@duffydon1741 what’s your reasons??
@@duffydon1741 yeah, seats four in comfort, can keep up with supercars costing twice the price, and still drive it in city traffic like it was a Honda. Car does it all.
@Duffy Don you ever owned one ?
its a shame they axed the manual version. i dont care how good the car is, its just simply not fun to drive with that auto box.