Vintage Electric 72 Volt Scrambler Review - $7k
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- The Vintage Electric 72 Volt Scrambler a powerful motorcycle-inspired electric bike with knobby tire setup and inverted suspension fork to handle a bit of gravel and off-road use. Near-silent Crystalyte gearless hub motor offers 180nm of torque, regenerative braking, and can be unlocked for high-speed off-road use. Available in one color and frame size for the Scrambler, but Vintage also sells the Roadster and Shelby models in different colors with street tires if you prefer. Responsive torque and cadence sensing pedal assist, variable speed trigger throttle, powerful hydraulic disc brakes with oversized 203mm front rotor. Sturdy Boost hub spacing, thru-axles, and adjustable inverted suspension fork. Comfortable hand-crafted leather saddle, grips, and optional suspension seat post. Excellent weight distribution, reliable single-speed drivetrain, beautiful pedals, rear fender, and paint-matched chain cover. Battery pack is not removable and the bike is fairly heavy, which could impact how and where it is charged. It's fairly expensive and shipping costs $199 extra unless you live near their HQ. Kickstand may create pedal lock, single speed drivetrain limits cadence options, display is fairly simple, only comes in one frame size.
0:00 Introduction, other 72 Volt Performance Series models
0:42 Total weight 81lbs, battery and motor highlights
2:06 Charge port and kickstand, adjustable battery charger
2:56 Battery care, single speed, regenerative braking
4:08 Boost hub spacing, sturdy thick axles, high speed key
4:58 Price plus shipping, company headquarters, brakes
5:43 Suspension fork adjustability, disc brake details
6:08 Tire details, rims, spokes, cranks, pedals, chain cover
6:51 Optional rear rack, pannier bags, seat post options
7:20 Powering on the bike, showing the integrated lights
7:57 Swept-back handlebar, one frame size, leather grips
8:33 Display panel walkthrough, lights, settings, walk mode
10:29 Ride test begins handheld cam, body cam, frame cam
14:14 Conclusion, thank-yous, compare tool and forums
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I love how electrification has enabled all sorts of exploration in bike design.
This technology has been around a long time It's just now getting implemented..
I'm pretty sure the electric car was before the gas powered car
And ripoffs too...
I bought a roadster 2 years ago for transportation. It's awesome. I get around the city in comfortable fashion on the trails, the sidewalk, the bike lanes, and on the street. I hop curbs and ride through city traffic with ease where ever I want to go. For 7,000 you get a combination of 39mph top speed, smooth ride, high build quality (battery and frame), and above average range. I didn't find that combination in many other e-bikes. I bought a rack this year and now I can run errands. If you're looking for fun and performance to maneuver around city, this might be the way to go. Thanks EBR for the review.
I have been thinking about purchasing this bike for work transportation. Much of my route is bike path and am worried about people making a fuss over the motorcycle look.
Cool, thanks for your "owners take" on this product Leron. I was very very impressed with the performance and comfort. You're correct that it's offering a rare combination of features and performance.
Hi The4Heck I can understand your concern. For what it's worth, nobody said anything to me during the test rides. There are more ebikes than ever on paths and streets now, and the fat tire models make a lot more noise. I feel like you wouldn't have a problem in most places I've been (medium and large cities in the US and Canada).
You take a 40mbh bike on sidewalks. What is wrong with you, honestly?
Wow my bìke does 39mph for 1,999$. Wicked E bikes Cruiser.
Great video and content. Thanks for covering the specifics on the bike. I am definitely looking forward to more reviews. Keep it up.
Love the style! Really appreciate the variety of bikes you review. Though some of them might not be for me personally, it’s a good learning experience. I really like the variety of video viewpoints.
Thanks Jay! It's amazing how much variety there is in the space, and I love to see how the bikes are refined over the years. This one was really a blast to zip around on, and I admire the artistic quality of it.
I truly love the cafe styling. Nice bike. I've stopped complaining about ebike prices because there's something for everyone out there now. I actually bought a refurb Jetson Bolt Pro for $250 USD as a "last mile" bike just recently. It's actually a fun little scoot!
Wow, that's a great price. I had fun covering that bike recently but got a lot of flack for saying it costs $600 (that's their MSRP) and being picky about the cheaper parts. It was fun to zip around on, I'm glad it's working well for you Tom :D
always love your your video's btri great job
This was featured on Jay Leno garage channel . It's cool looking.
Yeah, thank you for mentioning that! Here it is for anyone who is interested ua-cam.com/video/RCPy0d2KRSc/v-deo.html
7k wow. Styling is cool for sure.
This is what the Harley-Davidson Serial one should have looked like. With the single speed wouldn't it make more sense to use a belt drive? Can it be converted?
A couple of people have mentioned belt drive, I'm not really sure. I agree that this would be a perfect Harley electric bike. I'm surprised they didn't try to buy Vintage or co-brand.
Gr8 looking bike, 👍
I agree, their bikes look awesome. I'm going to cover the new Tracker Cruiser model next. It has front and rear fenders that are skirted, and it comes in cream or graphite blue colors.
Thanks for all your reviews, great job there. A little remark : ebike price seem to get out of control so many model models are now costing the price of a small car, or a brand new 125 cm3 scooter using 1.5 liter of gazoline for 100 km.A few years ago yoou could get a small urban car (still able to drive 800 km at 130kmh/h with 4 people) for about 6-7000 euros with the government grant. Of course there are some new technologies but the "jamais content"won a famous race bask in 20s of the previous century, and controller sensor are just basic electronics. Anyway your video are nice and informative.
Could you contatc Orbea and see if they can send you some of the Orbea Kennen, it is there new serie of trekking/urban bikes with central motor (it must be yamaha). They look very nice of their web site (even if the price is sort of crazy ...)
Wow, 7k for a direct drive hub, single speed, high volt motor with plenty of performance and choked to 20mph; but you need to pay even more to unlock the speed limit.... On a positive (as the world is neg enough) I do love that thru-axle inverted front fork and tires. But I know a sub 2k bike (ahem Himiway) that won't beat that on acceleration, but code 0510 unlocks the settings for you to achieve a solid 28mph. No I don't own either, but the weird shape, not easily removed battery, and the kickstand... It's just not a competitive choice, especially if you have 7k to spend.
You can get motorcycles at this price
@@Jamarkus_Delvonte but then they can run over grannies on the sidewalk
Good lord $$$$$$$
For this ya. Not the direction I'd go at 7k.
Do you know if the 80% charge setting still balances the cells? I ask because I have heard most battery management systems don't balance until the cells are somewhere around 98~%
Looking forward to an Evelo Omega review.
Yeah, I'm in touch with EVELO and we're planning out some more rides. Thanks John!
This will look beautiful in the hanger next to my jet.
might it be a hangar ?
Yeah, it's a great errand platform for places like that. Could be the race track, the airport, a new development, or maybe a private golf course or something?
@@ElectricBikeReview Sure...actually I intend to buy at least 3 so Biff and Skip can accompany me to the weekly wine tasting at the clubhouse....on second, thought forget about the hanger, these beauties must have their own stable built for them 🙂
Why is that front brake cable not tied down?
Need a review on the new trek FX+ please. Might be my first e-bike purchase.
Thanks for the request Daniel, I'm in touch with Trek and planning to cover it very soon. Any specific questions or coverage you'd like to see from me on this?
@@ElectricBikeReview Hub drive vs mid drive (trek FX+ is hub driven). Weight comparison (trek claims it's lighter than most of its competition)
For $7,000 is this at least UL rated? Should have had a no maintenance belt drive for this price. Thanks for the review, EBR is always the best.
Great suggestion, a belt drive would work very well for this setup!
Wow, $7 for an electric bike. This is just the beginning.
It's a lot to spend, but very special build with awesome performance. I feel like these are more hand-made, and they actually haven't raised the price a lot over the past several years.
@@ElectricBikeReview How much higher could they raise the price with a straght face?
$7 dollars is cheap!
@@MalcomMcLeod That won't pay for the bell on this bike.
I like the bike, one thing they could do is add cruise control maybe with some pre programmable settings, it's given me an idea for my next kit Ebike.
Interesting, I saw a lot of people mention that feature when I covered the Jetson Bolt Pro recently, I forgot to show how it worked. It's a feature I rarely see, but it can be useful for long rides!
Quick question, I haven't seen Mikey in a while. When did you stop working together?
Yeah, it has been a while since he and Tyson were filming reviews with me. Both have moved on to other projects, and I don't have the latest details. They live in other states and when travel restrictions were in we didn't get to see each other as much. I could try to connect you if you were interested or had a question for him :)
Because I might need to cross a street or an intersection quickly, I would prefer to have a throttle that can produce full power regardless of the assist level setting. P.S. don't hand your camera to a stranger in the Bay area. LOL
Haha, yeah I think about that each time! Thankfully, things usually work out okay, and people are friendly. I used to live in Daly City and work in SF... got stuff thrown at me on the way to work occasionally when I'd take the BART. Anyway, I agree that full throttle power is nice to have... especially since it's a variable speed lever.
Good review ...nice bike...
not in my price range. 😄
Thanks, I feel you on the price ;)
7k for a bike when you can get a 4k surron but I do hope the under 2k gets better....I enjoy my bbso2b with 60v for 1.3k lol
$7000 is about $5000 over my budget.😅
I feel you on that... lol! It can be a little uncomfortable to take out such nice bikes for reviews. I'm always trying to be super careful with them ;)
Nice bike but the price is out of my range . I know the fake motor is part of the design but looks funny to me being so big . I do like the rear mudguard design , would suit my bike :-)
Cool, which bike do you have?
@@ElectricBikeReview Sorry i don't have a name brand e-bike , i converted my old bike to a TDR 26inch 36v 250W rear hub motor , you probably don't know that brand being in Canada . I've had it for 2 years (5,000km) and it's still going strong . Cost me $500aud .Good enough for me and i can get 50kms out of it . Thanks for all your reviews Court . I might get a NCM Moscow ebike next as i tend to be on the cheaper side .
Expensive. You can buy suron and dual motor ebikes easy for half the price
Is that 40 mph available throttle only in race mode?
I wasn't able to test it out, but I think it's 40mph top speed pedal assist and throttle. Basically, what you'd get in assist level 5. You can only get that higher speed by purchasing the race key for $150, otherwise it comes specced for your geography, like 500w nominal 20mph top speed for Canada or 750w nominal 20mph top speed for the United States and maybe 250w nominal 25km/h top speed for United Kingdom.
I might as well just stick with my t dubs
Looks great but way too heavy for a bicycle
I found that the weight actually improves the comfort on these bikes. It reduces vibration because the frame has some inertia of its own. I was able to lift it, and I could haul it on my platform rack with an 1-1/4" hitch, but it would be nice if the battery could be taken off for easier charging and lighter weight on service and transport. It's nice that the bike can also support heavier riders, up to 300lbs total.
It's fugly imo
Hermosas, pero ni dinero hay para comprar una...😢
Yes, 81 pounds does sound like a lot …. but the more you talk about it, and its aesthetic, mega power output, and beefy build … not really all that crazy, more like an especially light pseudo-scooter……. Wait, SPEED CHIP !? 40mph? Okay, I dig it actually. 💪🏻⭐️
You are the perfect customer for this "bike"....clueless.
@@theflatulentfreddy1 thanks Fred, that means a lot coming from you 🚴🏻♂️🍺 …and no lie, my dog is named Fred and he too is grumpy most of the time.
Yeah, it didn't feel so heavy when I lifted it. The handling was great, and it's nice to have a sturdy build when going faster. There are some trade-offs with this bike for sure, but they aren't thoughtless, it does what it does very well.
@@OM-sb2bd I can understand why "Fred" is grumpy most of the time. 😎🖕
My bike has 285nm of torque total with my 3 motor. It's 210lbs foot of torque.
Anyone in Vancouver also owns a 72V scrambler? I'm thinking of buying a new one but want to see and feel what it's like... Reach out to me? Thanks!
I always wonder why bike manufactures/brands cheap out when it comes to bike pedals!? And considering it's a $7000 bike! lol
Perhaps it was more of a style choice in this case. Those pedals didn't seem cheap to me, just not as functional as I'd like since they are kind of slim.
$7k is too much plus shipping. Not to mention if you wanna add racks or bags thats another hundred bucks. This company is very expensive. Everything can add up to 12k or more depending on what you need.
Yeah, it is a more expensive product, especially with the accessories, shipping, and taxes all in.
Court, I think that reviews like this is a slippery slope. There's a lot of concerns I have with e-bikes like this;
-The battery at the end of it's life. Can you buy a new one? How much will it cost? Can you recycle it? How do you dispose of it? At least with an e-bike with a Bosch or Yamaha system you can find a new battery replacement.
-The possible speed kit option. You would have to be naive to expect that people would get the speed kit and not use it everywhere. Having e-bikes with that kind of speed invites abuse. Irresponsible e-bike riders gives e-bikes a poor reputation. Therefore, all e-bikes will be less welcomed in more places.
I believe that there are too many of these novelty that bikes possible hurt the e-bike movement. The e-bike industry needs to develop standardized protocols.
Court, I'm a long time fan of your work. But, promoting bikes like this is a poor idea.
For the few people who buy this bike, price is not the issue. Wear and tear won't be an issue either. How much do think they will actually be riding this thing?
@@goobfilmcast4239 How much someone rides matters little, I like seeing bikes that are responsibly built. Having that high speed kit option invites abuse. I've know people with bikes much this. They're addicted to the speed.
What do you think of bikes of this nature?
I feel you on the concerns. The company has been owner operated since inception and they do a lot of upgrades and repairs... even custom paint and mixed builds for people who want it. I think the battery could be re-packed by FTH or Vintage themselves. It seems like they are more attentive than a lot of companies and more open source with their simplified hardware. The display hasn't changed, the motor is different inside but they use the same supplier as three years ago. II don't see it as e-waste, and the novelty could attract people who would otherwise skip ebikes. The company has good integrity from what I've seen and the performance was really outstanding.
@@ElectricBikeReview Hi Court and thanks for your fast reply. I have great respect for all that you have done over there years. I often visit your UA-cam channel and website to research e-bikes.
If I was to purchase a Vintage Electric 72 Volt Scrambler and have it sent to an address in the the US. What happens when I wear the battery down? You had mentioned that the battery is not removable, therefore I would guess that I would order a new battery. Find a 3rd party knowable bike mechanic to remove the battery and have him install the new battery? Or would I have to send the bike back to the manufacture and have it sent back to me? Either way sounds a bit impractical and expensive.
In contrast, I know that I can easily get replacement batteries for Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano, Brose and Rad Bikes. Changing the battery on those bikes takes seconds and requires no tools, just a turn of a key.
The sellers of the Vintage Electric 72 Volt Scrambler are trying to fly under the radar of detection. If you want to make a bike, that in reality is a motorcycle own up to it. Once people will get the ultra speed kit, they will use it where they please. More speed requires more safety. However there is no blinkers, no regulated taillights, no rear shocks to handle the extra speed. Are the front shock that good to handle that kind of speed over years of use, like a motorcycle would be?
There is a lot of innovated stuff coming to market, but much of it is half baked engineering. A lot of politicians know very little of e-bikes. If their first e-bike impressions are bad, they may be turned off for a long time. Irresponsible bike manufactures potentially creates an uphill battle for the rest of the industry.
You do understand the meaning of the word "vintage"?
I guess not, I assumed it meant classic... like an original thing that inspired others and has been preserved. Open to feedback if you can help clarify. By the way, I'm just reviewing the bike, I don't design or sell these :)
there really isn't any logical reason for this bike to be in it's price range that I can see. I can easily afford one for every day of the week but wouldn't purchase one just for the offensive price.
Weird flex bruh
No gears, small lights, cheap pedals, no racks, no rear suspension, 160mm rotor size on the rears!! What are they thinking, put 203 is on there with a 4 piston caliper, not worth the money, buy a Juiced hyper scrambler 2! 10000 x better than this bike.
a little bit heavier???? please use real language
7k? Give me a break. What a joke.
Spot on!!
Super cub!!
7k 👎🏽😂👎🏽😂👎🏽😂👎🏽😂👎🏽😂
This is the complete opposite direction I'd go when hitting $7k. I really don't know where you'd ride this .Plus it's super ugly
Which bikes do you like in this price range J?
Incredibly overpriced and underpowered
Too expensive. Looks dumb. Design will attract thieves.