Vintage Electric Bicycles - Jay Leno's Garage
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Andrew Davidge started his electric bike company in high school and now, four years later, he and Jay are cruising the Cruz and E-Tracker - at 36 mph in race mode with a 30-mile range!
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It's funny, but I never watched Leno on TV, but I love his auto show.
+Robb's Homemade Life it's his passion and knowledge of his collection that makes it so. his comedy was whatever to me, but that got him this.
Same.
cool until he said $5,000.
that is what I thought. go to Walmart 150.00 then get the motor kit for 600.00
Jon Car n that's the base model and not including tax and license.
+Jon Car you really gonna go 25+ mph on a walmart bike? i hope you have life insurance.
+Vic Vil ......you need to get a better job.
+Jon Car not comparable to a $150 huffy from Walmart. These are hand built, bespoke bikes built in the US. There are quite a few small bike factories selling hand built, non-electric bikes for the same amount. I do agree it's a bit steep in price, but not even close to some Walmart/Home Depot/eBay hodgepodge DIY.
That's really cool. He's quite an inspiration!
+Superman THE MOONS A PROGECTION BY THE US GOVERNMENT
+Superman +TAOFLEDERMAUS
He fully knows we landed on the moon, and it was the power of hi brass that got us there! That, and nasa used a CTD laser pointer to plan their trajectory.
Superman Wait, you're telling me that high brass shotgun rounds didn't take anyone to the moon to eat some of its cheese? And that my laser pointer isn't NASA approved? Well, that's just slander Mr. "Superman", if that really IS your real name...
Everyone who believes in the "moon conspiracy" over scientific facts is just stupid. I pity you.
+TAOFLEDERMAUS Yes, cool guy. We need more young entrepreneurs like this guy. You can tell he's going somewhere great. What was Henry Ford like at this age? Hmmmm..... The future awaits.
I built an electric bike from a kit, so I can provide some insight on why they cost more than people expect. It's the battery. I spent around $1000 on just the bare cells for a 1 kwh lithium battery. That's just the cells. You still need to assemble them into a usable pack, add battery management electronics, a case, etc. A good motor is a few hundred bucks, and then you need motor controller electronics and a throttle. So, you're at around $1500 in parts before you have even started talking about the bike part of the bike, like frame, wheels, derailleurs, brakes, etc. Then the company assembling and marketing them has to pay their overhead and make a profit. You can buy electric bikes for less than $1000, but they will compromise on the size and quality of the battery and motor.
+Dan Sanger Exactly this. Factor in a handmade frame built here in the US (custom bike frames easily cost multiple thousands of dollars) and the cost is totally justifiable.
Would economy of scale have factor in as well? This is 5 guys basically working as artisans - if they had orders for thousands of bikes, worked a full assembly line, placed bulk orders for their parts - how much would costs go down?
guys it changed.
lithium batteries are much cheaper now. also the controllers and hub motors.
if you have a small old motorcycle you could convert it into a quite fast ebike (130kph+) with spending less than 2500$,
if you buy electrics and batteries from china, motor from zelena vozila and if you assemble the battery yourself.
easy, i will do it soon, parts are already here with me, except batteries.
Seen bikes a lot cheaper and faster for half that money
ye, he did say it is a 3KW motor aswell so it needs a 3KW battery, probably around 3000$ itself
Jay just made this kid a millionaire.
+Martin Wright But after you pay for costs or materials, rent for the space to build them and having to pay the 5 guys he works with probably not lol.
+HDaviator I hope you are right.
Might become true but something tells me he already came from money.
+CeeStyleDj At least he is actually working.
CeeStyleDj
And why does that even matter if he did he come from a well off place in life ?
Like what hes doing is somehow diminished because of where he came from ?
Completely irrelevant.
This is awesome. This video is 6 years ago and his company is still selling these bikes. Great job!
Yeah, and the bikes have improved a lot! They look similar but are even more powerful, and how have an inverted suspension fork :)
Wow. $5000. I have to say that I'd rather buy a car but these are pretty cool. Maybe if you live in a bigger city and work or go to school close enough.
Lol yeah you could get a car
It'd be cheaper to run than a car and looks like it has waaaay better build quality than a 10 year old beat up hatchback, it won't pay for itself but if it was between a Vespa and this I would buy this:)
+Matthew Loomis for 5k you could get a running and driving mr2 in perfect condition.
+SlipknotMaggot0526 depends how reliable the battery and the motor are, tesla ones are already having problems and they have a big r & d department
+SlipknotMaggot0526 car would have more cost; gas, insurance, maintenance, potential traffic violations, etc. But then again you can go further distance in a car and you're protected from the elements.
They start at $5000? Meaning they could be more? Sold over 400 already, that's easily into the $2,000,000+ revenue range already. Only in California....
+enigmaPL
Revenue - yes, but his business is probably not all that profitable.
He has 5 workers that cost him at least 9 bucks per hour for each worker, plus materials, paint, special orders for custom parts, hardware, electricity, taxes, rent, etc.
+funky3ddy You could build those bikes in a 2 car garage, every time someone sais rent and electricity I crack up.
*****
You could, but he's making these by hundreds, I believe he rents something bigger than a two car garage.
And electricity is not cheap. Power tools, welding machines, bright lighting, boilers, etc. draw a lot of power.
funky3ddy You believe, key words, and he started out with just one too.
***** That depends on how big of a machine you need. I don't need to find anybody to run a CNC machine, I can do that myself. I got a Machinist One Diploma, and 2 years of Mech/Eng.
You don't need a really expensive machine to build small parts. It's CNC, all I got to do is find some fool that can take a part, put it in, hit cycle, and take it out, and I can find those where I live all day long for less than $9 an hour. The truth is though, this guy isn't selling 5000 of those bikes a day, probably 500 a year more like it.
20-25K and I would have everything I need to open shop. You turn your profits over and buy more equipment till are in the black and have all you need.
"just under $5000" you know, an average price -_-
Yeah, and I thought my trek mountain bike was expensive... I guess not
It's run by 5 guys he said but I bet they have a middle man for every component on the bike, it could cost a lot less I'd imagine if they streamlined their production a bit, clearly a big slice of the pie is being taken by the manufacturers of the battery and the motor and the brakes etc...
+anguy11 A good electric assisted bicycle is $2000 from a shop. These have a lot bigger battery, motor, custom frame, electronics and looks very well finished. But yes its still motorcycle money.
+anguy11 Price is not the only factor that determines how well a product will sell. He found a niche market, making an item not a lot of people desire. That leads to him having freedom to decide on the build quality and the final price. When you have low competition and high quality product it will sell regardless of the price. Its not an expensive soda drink, its "I want to be unique and stand out" type of product.
what I believe they should do is pull a oneplus and create high quality products at consumer level prices.
Jay's Pee-Wee impression needs to be a ringtone.
It looks like they bought a bunch of Felt cruiser frames, put a Chinese motor on it and they want $5000 for it?
+Chicken Soup Why do you have to be a hater? Do you hate to see a young man do well for himself?
Thats it. We have a few companies in germany with the same....lets call it special quality😅
congratulations to this young man!
"Let's take this thing up on the freeway".
How nervous must that young guy have been to be riding through Jays garage with priceless classics left and right. 😂👍
"... because they're going 2 mph with a hunger striker driving..." Hilarious.
Cool, but COST PROHIBITIVE!!
+GaragebandandBeyond Not really, think about it in terms of replacing a car, i.e. selling it and not having to deal with all those associated costs anymore.
+Patrick94GSR like having a roof, a heater, a comfy seat....
I am ordering one. The Indian one called the Tracker with the optional Tail Lights and saddle bags. Not bad I will just not shop for Xmas this year ! Hah
+gene978 They definitely are cool looking bikes.
That Blue One is Badass!
Five Grand? Bwaaaaahahahaha! I mean, they're kinda cool or whatever, but jeeeeeeeeez that's pricey.
The videos where Jay rides bicycles are fantastic, this one and the guy that came by with the 49cc cruisers. Looks like he has more fun than in a veyron.
Thumbs up if you think Jay should get one of these to match his McLaren P1.
Can't you get a motorcycle for $5000?
+swSephy | Sim Racing my friend picked up a 2009 Suzuki Gsxr 600 with less than 1k miles for $4100.... did I forget to say it came with a nitrous kit, aftermarket exhaust, and tune included with that the price...... way cheaper then these bikes
+swSephy | Sim Racing just bought my girlfriend a 600 ninja for 1600 hundred bucks tax and insurance will be less than 2k .,fuel for a yeat? likely 5-600 .so not much savings of a few years but faster and can go cross country where ever when ever.this is more for urban dwellers
+swSephy | Sim Racing Yeah.. especially in the US, you can get a really really nice one.
+swSephy | Sim Racing Just "A" motorcycle. I bought two perfectly working motorcycles for a purchase cost of $2600. But I also had to pay sales tax, annual registration costs, plate cost and insurance which amounted to a couple hundred more. The difference is these bicycles are essentially hand made and hand assembled and come with some of the advantages of having a motorcycle but without uncle sam and law enforcement up your butt. In insurance and registration costs I spend $140 for one bike and $350 for the other each year. It doesn't take long before you are way past the purchase price of this bicycle.
+Salvatore LoPresti So does a Moped, and for a lot cheaper price than this bike.
Or you could buy a motorcycle...
+XLPCX Which requires a motorcycle license, registration, gas, and has to comply with motorcycle laws. This is still a bicycle, you don't need any license for it at all not even a moped license, you don't register it, it doesn't take gas, and you can ride it on the sidewalk right up the door of your apartment/school/job/etc and not get arrested. $5k is a lot of cash, but this is also the more practical option for a lot of people who live in over populated cities where owning a car or motorcycle is more hassle than it's worth.
+EvilSSP What is a mope license? Also some states require you to register a scooter
+EvilSSP so get a moped for less than a grand with the same benefits. This guy sells to niche market. And I'm fine with that. I'm just not that market.
XLPCX
Mopeds still require a license/registration/tags/gas. This doesn't.
Now, I'm not saying what he makes isn't ridiculously expensive, and there are far cheaper ways to get the exact same thing, but if you can afford it then it does look like his options are very nicely done. People spend way more money on way stupider crap than this. Some people buy Starbucks every single day and that can easily add up to $2k a year.
You don't need a license for a moped, that's why they are called DUI rides...
Howard Hughes made a electric bike as a teenager. Concept has been around for sometime.
I love they way how Jay is encouraging this young guy.
This inventor is really straight forward about his products.
LOL when he started doing the pee wee herman impression.
I just built my own and it honestly will go 80 plus miles on a charge and does 38mph. $550 complete. It's not the best looking however. These Vintage units are very nice and I like the look and design so job well done.
Jay, you should do a video on your Owen's Magnetic! That would be awesome to see.
hipstermobile
Sure it's not cheap, but you guys need to realize it's not targeting people who would spend $2,500 on a used motorcycle. The target market is guys who would spend $5,000 + on a bicycle with no motor.
Myself, I own four bicycles that cost in the $2,000 - $3,000 range. Could I have bought motorcycles instead? Sure, but the bicycles serve a purpose that the motorcycles do not serve.
Hello: I feel 5000.00 sounds like a lot, in sunny California some people could ride to work every day. That cuts out gas, car insurance, high price tires for car, property tax on car. Now how much did you save in 10 years. He is a very sharp guy.
That's Great a Young man making his living by starting his own company, and right out of high school. How Awesome is that......Not many this young can say that.
5K? sure.....
I like the fact that they're made in the USA, and not China, like so many things being produced. :)
Yeah made in USA just like the Fords, Dodges, Chevrolets, etc. Less reliable car brands on earth. I prefer China tbh.
Thank you for the video
Just so everyone knows, you absolutely DO need a plate for these bicycles. Anything with a motor is considered pedal assist. In California it is a one time $18 fee to register and get a plate. If you are pulled over and it is not registered, be prepared to have your $5000 bicycle impounded.
Something very odd it says on The New Tracker page, "The Battery ... ... our patent pending aluminum battery box ... ... It also disperses heat, allowing our high performance system to run at lower temperatures, significantly increasing efficiency, providing a range of 35 miles."
Dispersing heat from batteries is waste heat, it is not greater efficiency. Running electronics at lower temps means they last longer but not usually more efficient, hmmm?
Lithium batteries put current out at the highest rate when they are above 80 degrees but if the current put out is too high this is the prime time when damage to the batteries occur. They must be using really cheap electrical components to get greater efficiency when they are cooled a little?
They also say that aluminum box is hydro-formed, it looks like something I might have made in my high school metals shop, cast aluminum sand blasted ...
35 miles, 15 or 20 powered the rest peddled maybe ...
... hmmm, I wonder did J get scammed?
You sound like a conspiracy guy, suspicious of everything.
Totally with him until he said $5000 what is it about these hipster web based businesses that they don't know the first think about efficient manufacture? That is a $500 product max with modern JIT manufacturing and no investment required either.
excellent tip Jay, I'm going to use a hunger striker as a top speed test rider !
These are really cool. In Britain, they only allow us a miserly 16 mph and with very limited power. They deem anything faster or more powerful to be a motorcycle. 🤷♂
Jay Leno looks like one of the flintstones,great guy.
To everyone commenting negatively on the cost, let me assure you this kid sells more of these bikes than he can manufacture. They may be a fad, but they are in high demand, and are easy to justify if you don't want a car and live in a densely populated area.
great bike I like it the red one reminded me of an early Harley Davidson or Indian
Nice "but" change the title. It is misleading. The title makes one think that you are going to show Jay Leno's actual vintage electric bikes.
I like these, now if I only had the 5000
+Paul Mcguire Even if you had the 5k it would be better spent elsewhere.
That looks to be a good machine and great to see a young guy start up like this. I can see the camper crowd loving these. A lot easier than a gas motorized vehicle, especially to keep noise down. Some folks even in towns of less than 10000 work close to an apartment and bike everywhere. Wonder how it does in northern winter climates?
5 grand for that lol jesus
and he's "sold" 400 ...
Its a bicycle with a hub motor...And he's charging 5K!? A sucker born every minute!
30 miles will require a battery that costs 1 grand in raw materials straight from china or japan.. have fun building that, and the rest of a bycicle from scratch
$5,000 and you have to peddle up hill. Ride a bicycle or buy a motorcycle or do both and still have $2,000 to spend
I don't think you would have to peddle up hill. 3,000 watts is a lot. A human bicycling usually outputs 200-400 watts. However, I do agree that the price is excessive, but I guess they are custom vintage bikes (they are luxury items). I would rather build my own for $500-800.
wow what a clever young bloke Love them bikes Like old American board racers He will go far
$5,000 This saddens me (opposite of Henry Ford).. Let me guess.. this guy is one of Jays friends kid?
Fun looking , wish I could afford ..... Jay is always positive ....thumbs up Jay
I REALLY want an Ebike but they're so expensive, I can get a motorcycle for the price of them.. anyone know a cheap DIY kit, or complete bike?
+JediMindTricks183 yeah they are all over this thing called the internet you lazy sob
+JediMindTricks183 Ebay: moped kit.
+JediMindTricks183 In The Netherlands we can buy kits from 300 to 1200 euro's, depending on the range and the power of the electric motor. Just google for ''electric bike conversion kit'', I'll bet they have such things in almost every country.
HackingDutchman In the U.S, we can get gas ones for out $180, and electric ones for about $210. The issue with the gas ones is that they're 2 stroke, so the gas/oil mix ends up costing about $3.00 a gallon, when standard unleaded costs $1.70.
+Folopolis That's about the same here. You pay around 1200 euro's for a proper electric bike. Gas one's here are secondhand cheaper to buy, new ones are (almost) not being made anymore. However, we pay much more for diesel and gasoline here.
Really like that navy blue bike Andrew rides. If i had the money i'd get one.
For $2000, yes, for $5g, I'm no mug!
Y'all need to KNOW I Designed These BIKES! nf anti-Man have been abusively/criminally preventing Me from Making Bikes, Trike & Quads Like These! nf & kkk stopping Me basically!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want Emancipation, True Justice & Proper Compensation NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4:51 A Phil Wood hub? That's nice!
Checked their website, the battery box is made of cast aluminium. Looks like good quality stuff allround!
$5000 is a lot of money, but this thing looks solid!
Very nicely retro designed bike and clearly quite impressive performance. Interesting to get an idea what assembly line mass production techniques could get prices down to - because I think pricing is the key to the success of such vehicles.
$5000. bloody hell. That's a lot of dollar for a peddle bike.
call me when they cost 500$
I know some people are commenting its too expensive. Remember these are hand made electric custom bicycles. If you just want something cheap they do exist. But most electric bikes probably start at $2000. The better ones are more around $3500-$5000. If you are a cycling enthusiast and want a cool cycle then this is more for you.
If you just want a cheap utilitarian electric cycle then there is costco or you can buy your own kit.
If you want an electric bike that's built to last, expect to pay no less than $1900. Price increases with motor and battery strength.
FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS?
Holy crap... That's what I paid for my 200 mph superbike, which also gets north of 40mpg.
I was expecting $2,000 max.
+Adeum Deus 5 ppl in his company, what do you expect? If he had a bigger production line, employees and buying material in bulk- it'll be around 2k price.
The blue one is BEAUTIFUL. I would love a vehicle like this. I live 16 miles from Stockholm so it would be a really cool way to get there and back.
Especially in the winter
Phil Wood Hubs, Brooks saddle & grips, Shimano hydraulic brakes, hand made stainless steel bars, in-house designed re-generative brakes, etc, etc? $5000 is cheap!
Better to stick to your convictions, and sell the best American made product you can. There are plenty of people who get it. Mr Leno does.
I'm 27 and I'm sitting here... congrats to him tho, that's pretty awesome to be able to do that so young
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EXCELENTE POSTAGEM,JAY LENOS GARAGE .
It's great to see Jay show guys like this who have started their own company and are doing quality work, he has accomplished a lot at a young age
Not for me....rain, snow, cold, foggy, heavy traffic....but for the right person it would do the trick.
*i bet after this his sales will pick up BIG Time!!!*
_Think he will need more then 5 people working for him now lol!_
BEAUTIFUL eBIKE, GORGIOUS eBIKE, nice design there are so few well designed eBikes it’s nice to see one that is fairly well designed. Everyone should own as a second vehicle something like this and stop funding the terrorists every time they buy gas.
I think this is the BEST value in eBikes I have seen but they all tell little lies so I will look at the specs on their web page and see if I can see what they are lying about.
I built my own eBike and it’s been running for 4 years now, it’s by far the fastest in town and it has features not available on any other bike, but IT’S NOT DONE YET! So this is how I know about eBikes.
So I have some things to say from the start, any vehicle that goes above 20 mph should have suspension and not just bicycle fat tires, it should have real suspension just like ALL other vehicles on the road, while this is a very nice design for what it is, the lack of suspension will cause problems with durability and safe control of the bike unless you plan to drive slower than 20 mph most of the time.
Hub motor eBikes kind of SUCK because the hub motor is very heavy around 15 lbs. and in the hub it is all unsprung weight, thus, on bumps the bike jump around a LOT. Also, how would you fix a flat tire on that bike could be very difficult.But this is a vintage design so for this type of eBike that is the way it goes. My eBike has its motor in the frame and it has full suspension, fixing a flat is no different from any other bike.
This is eBike is powerful so on San Francisco’s steepest streets, going straight up, it would pop wheelies and become unridable, but I am sure their testers drive across the streets on those roads. Wheelie popping and loss of control from wheelie popping is a BIG problem with all hub motor eBikes accept those that are extremely low power.
EBikes are easier to balance than regular bikes because they have power, if you are falling over you just hit the throttle a little. The great thing about well-designed eBikes like this one is it’s like a motorcycle, it has lights and other parts well bolted on so you don’t have to worry about theft. They are small enough to fit in an elevator and bring inside even an apartment, and theft devices can be built into them so theft should be much less of a problem, with regular bikes theft is a huge problem.
EBikes are easy to brake and ride, no special rules, with regular bikes you would learn all kinds of crazy rules to avoid accidents, I NEVER have an accident, that is because I don’t have to follow the Cyclists rules I just ride and the bike WORKS. My eBike stops very quickly and I just pull hard and fast on both levers it does not end-over, the rear tire does not come off the ground, instead it STOPS! The front or rear wheels never slide out in dust because I use tires that never have this problem and the tires I use are well known for their low rolling resistance, so if you really know eBike design it is possible to build one that is very very safe, even while my average speed around town is 20 to 30 mph.
Many people wince when they hear how much an eBike weighs, weight is really NOT an issue at all, it has power so power up the hills and peddle on the flats, no big deal. Bikes that have high quality bearings are always easy to peddle no matter how heavy they are, cyclists are obsessed with weight, they should be obsessed with bearings, they have lots of ODD ideas because their ideal bike is for racing and nothing else, so don’t worry about their odd ideas they are all WRONG for transportation.
Cyclists will NOT create the eBike revolution that saves cars from themselves, it will be car and motorcycle owners because they will buy the eBikes for practical transportation. Cyclists buy bikes for clout to impress each other, they are all about the ideal racing bike, efficient peddling, and this has nothing at all to do with practical transportation.
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It's nice that Jay is interested in all kinds of transportation from steam cars to tractors to tank-engine roadsters, classics, hot rods, muscle cars, and even e-bikes. Kudos for encouraging a young entrepreneur, too! $5000 is a lot of dough, though, and when the Chinese start making these..... watch out.
$5000 is really not that bad if you are familiar with the biking industry. Most high end bikes are at least that much, without any power assist...
I thought jay was having a stroke at 3:19 i bet the guy did too
5 grand nahhh get ya motorcycle
Looks like a Great Quality-Made Product!
Thank You for sharing!
Now all as you need is for the gas prices to hit $4.00 a gallon again! :D
I like the dark blue one. cool looking bike.
Yes Jay, I do want fries with that.
Another excellent segment Jay, thanks!
the vintage look is great
wow
Years old, I love watching old vids.
In the same year 2015 this kid made these and they started at @ $5000.00 with a range of about 20-30 miles per charge (which greatly varies depending on many things)
And the Phantom bikes were much cooler looking, got 140MPG no matter what, and started at @ $1450.00 and went faster without illegally messing with the governor.
No charge time with the Phantom
Lithium Ion batteries are far more damaging to the environment from mining the resources to make them, and then the problems with recycling/discarding them (because lithium Ion batteries do not last forever or for very long with motorized platforms)
The charge them requires electricity, (which is generated via fossil fuels)
So, in the end, the only benefit is they are quiet. Not really worth the price difference to me.
One could purchase 3 of the Phantom bikes and still not spend as much to purchase 1 Vintage Electric bike
I think most people ignore that when you buy an ebike with a large wh battery you are essentially pre-buying 30-50 miles of fuel because it only cost about a dime to recharge them. I sell some ebikes and that is exactly how the large expense of a battery has to be viewed and it's the most expensive element of an ebike.
What the hell is a Phantom bike? And if its just a regular motorcycle,why you comparing them? Those 2 types of bikes are really different..yes,we know. And both have different advantages. But the being quite-part that IS the whole thing about goin electric. It's not emotion by sound. It's emotion by silence .So you experience the torque without the sonic mayhem. It's like the difference between a crosbow and a rifle. Both can hit the target ,but in 2 totally different ways. Perfect,..no competition.
I live in Saigon. My daughter drives an electric bike I bought NEW for $699.00. And it takes off like a rocket. $5,000? hmmm I don't think so.
I'm glad you're happy. But you get what you paid for. It will not compare to one of these.
$5000 I'm buy a nice used motorcycle.
Very nice to drive😎
pretty pricey, but you know this guy is gonna be leading the way in this obviously growing market.
Jay is the coolest, he lets the young guys show there cool stuff off and get major exposure.
He was nervous; "Good, awesome, how are you, can I puke on you?".
Mad props to the guy tho.
YEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH BURNOUTS!!!!! Jay is just like me. Gotta spin the tires on everything you touch.
electric vehicles are just boring. no sound = no fun.
I like the faster ones. check out stealth ebikes. don't need sound when you're flying down the road incognito
I have the scrambler with about 2000mi on it. With all the other Chinese ebikes that have come out, this one still gets more looks, gets more comments, and blows them all away for speed and smoothness. It's more expensive but so is a Rolex or a Porsche. Yeah you pay more but you get way more with these bikes. Love mine.
I hate electric vehicles and I hate push bikes, so I can't figure why I think these are pretty awesome :-/ $5k though, he needs to make a budget version, perhaps make it look like the 1920s angular poor factory worker type with no re-gen and block brakes, still vintage.
Look, I highly commend & admire the young man for starting his own business and his bikes are beautiful........But electric bikes are nothing new, and his PRICING is not only ridiculous, but GREEDY. That doesn't apply to custom builds & upgrades of course, but as a prime example of VALUE, I bought an all electric boat that is 10 feet long by 4 feet wide, it is totally unique ( don't picture some boat that "looks like a little dinghy" ) and protected under 2 patents. The design, engineering and production of this boat requires FAR MORE time, money, materials, and labor than these electric bikes, I can assure you of that. It is totally a single-piece, seamless, roto-molded construction, using the most advanced polyethylene that does not dry rot or fade and is practically indestructible, which is an expensive & complicated process all by itself for double-walled objects with all kinds of molded in features, ( don't picture "roto molded trash cans & storage bins" ) I don't even see how they are able to actually do it. Then there's the twin electric salt water grade motors that are TOTALLY HIDDEN & PROTECTED as well as the highly engineered & durable twin FOOT PEDALS that enable you to operate the boat totally HANDS FREE. I guarantee you this boat has TWICE the cost put into its production versus these electric bicycles........yet it retails for only $3,250. Yet this kid charges a price that STARTS AT 5 GRAND for a base model, and goes UP from there. That's insane. What's even funnier, is when Jay asked how many employees he has in his company......the kid replies: "ABOUT 5".......LOL. Sounds like he has a hard time counting to 5 or something.
5000 way too much. I would pay maybe 1800 for an electric bicycle. His are custom made, not production bikes, so a production line of electric bikes will bring the price down.
Think Jay actually worked at McDonald's in his early 20's? Seems a bit far fetched but still cool to think he might have been taking big mac orders back in the early 70's.
+The Moto Channel He lived in his car when he moved to LA.
casually says about 5000
I love the design and the colors, those things are nice!
If they just made the battery covers look a little more like a V-Twin.
Hey! At least it did do a burnout, a chevette wouldn`t do that even if you picked up on the back end. lol :)
$5,000 for a well built American designed and built product, no complaints on the price from me - You get what you pay for!
+ILovedThe90s1 Actually, this bike frame design is from a Felt Deep 6 Beach Cruiser, so it's nothing new! And, the battery is from China, which has a price range of about 3000watt = $600-$800--which is what this bike is using.
This is very inspirational for me to see and sort of restores my faith in the future of humanity (even with the extremely small scale production here). In a transportation world dominated by Oil and the simple fact that it will soon start running dry, it seems this is the next step for humanity. This technology can be scaled up to the classic sedan and perhaps even trucks. On that note, I see electrically driven vehicles as being a suppressed technology, Tesla being case in point. Almost half of the states in our union disallow his cars being imported, they are outright banned in those states. Makes absolute zero sense, but in the eyes of the greedy few that have a monopoly on oil supplies, it makes perfect sense. The time to transform away from dwindling fossil fuel and a world that is literally burning is now! In the time it took you to read this comment, we burned 1,000,000 gallons of oil. It's a thousand barrels per second. It's unsustainable. This is our last chance. I'm not saying do away with it, because I make a living on race engines, but we absolutely have to change... On a different note, bring some Tesla cars on the show if you want to burn some rubber Jay. The Tesla Model S P85D is undoubtedly the baddest thing on the scene... 691 HP / 0-60 in 3.2 seconds / 150 MPH top speed!
+FullSpectrum Survivalist www.greencarreports.com/news/1095337_where-can-tesla-legally-sell-cars-directly-to-you-state-by-state-map
***** Yeah, I know. Where do you think I got the information for my comment? Sure looks like around half of the states his cars are banned.
It's actually right at 50/50. What's with all you people attacking me on here being off by one state?
fla playa Well they are not, it's only 3 states, that page is misleading because they have an agenda. Also you need to look at the graph and ask yourself is Tesla supplying each State with all 3 things as required by law.
my.teslamotors.com/it_CH/forum/forums/tesla-sales-banned-arizona-texas-new-jersey
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Can you guys/gals get off the political soap boxes.
The OP is correct and I agree that when people hear the headlines that the cars are banned in a given state, they think you can't buy one. Keep in mind, 99% of the population's mindset is that you buy a car off the car lot, not order and take delivery. So in most people's mind set, they figure you physically can't get one in those states. Hell, I live in CT and we don't even have a store/gallery, just a service center. I had someone ask me how I bought one then. Again, "they" think there has to be a Tesla "dealership" in order to buy one.
The public unfortunately doesn't read the content of a story, just the headlines."
That's what you did, you read the headlines and didn't study or read the story good, which was why I quoted to you from that very page earlier.
How hipster can something possibly be...
New "vintage"? Check
Electric? Check
Bicycle? Check
Burn victim beard? Check
BTW this guy didn't ' invent the Ebike and you wouldn't see me dead on this one . I have two Ebikes (MTB and folder) and there are so many amazing designs out there...just not this one - this is my opinion anyway .