Looking to sell two awesome coolermaster keyboards. hit me up for details. jk i wanted these keyboards to be amazing because they look so good. But they're terrible. DON'T BE FOOLED
Do you think that a similar kind of design (flat keycaps, laptop style) but with regular cherry switches and correct spacing between keys could work? I just can't stand those keyboards that look like they're straight up from the '70s...
u are wrong Sir! we love hearing critical feedback. It’s hard to please everyone with every product so that’s why we have a wide selection with different switches, features, sizes, etc. What works for some might not work for others. Thousands of people around the world have already gotten these boards without complaint. The switches themselves are called “low profile switches” and we never advertised the board as being a low profile keyboard.
@@CoolerMasterGaming So nice of you checking user's response. I really respect your level of concern on customer satisfaction. Unlike these Bullshit Dell guys, who ignore you right in your face with Coil Vineing XPS 15.
What? It literally says “low profile” on your channel. How is that not “advertising”. Stop it - you guys make a good looking keyboard that’s not comfortable to type on. Just learn from your mistakes. No need to make excuses. Just looks petty. Send the next model with improvements to Dave if you’re serious about this product.
The Hairmonster101 My point is that prior to watching this video, I had never seen a keyboard video or shown interest to keyboards yet one day my recommended is full of keyboard related videos. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not
But hey, it's RGB, which gives you 20% more fps. And if you set the leds to green, your pc will use less power and if you set them blue, your pc will run cooler.
I'm using the SK650 right now prior to my review. Not the easiest to type on and definitely expensive by comparison. I think it's more a showpiece than it is a truly "functional" keyboard.
Hey ScienceStudio, the keyboard takes about a week to get used to. We’ve been using them in the office and they’re more spaced it and better to type on than laptops. We all have our new travel keyboard now!
L Raven he lists each reason, also, there is no benefit to making a bad review. If anything, he is losing a brands trust in him just for an honest review. Also you spelled unbiased wrong.
I love the fact how it has a daughter board for the type c port, so that you can repair it when the type c port failes. that's good engineering to me. yes it makes the board a bit higher, but certainly not that much if you engineer it right.
Dude I just bought it and returned it. The actual switches themselves type like *ss. They're horrible - worse than a membrane keyboard. Not only that if you are going to be replacing a daughter board it's not a stretch to re-solder a USB connector. I've soldered/switched micro-USB on a Bluetooth speaker... I'm not sure how much harder USB-C is but the micro-USB didn't require any specialized solder tips - just good flux and a 25$ soldering iron with smaller tip..
One of the best, or at least more comfortable quiet which I LOVE and great for typing keyboards ive ever bought was a standard $20 wireless logitech keyboard (cant quite remember but it was cheap)
i like the style of this video. short, clean, to the point, yet thorough in your assertions. i currently use a cheap amazon keyboard that bends under the weight of my hands, and while it works and i actually really enjoy the way the keys feel, i am really excited to get into keyboards.
Hey do the hexgears x-1 still have the problem with the actuation point and the tactile bump not being aligned with the choc whites and the choc brown because I was considering getting the choc reds because they're linear so they won't have that problem
My own experience, the connection is just horrible. Bluetooth connection always drop and require re-pair. And the white switch also occasionally miss a key
Imo Dave is the best and most honest reviewer. I was really attracted to this keyboard myself. Dodging this one until coolermaster makes a revision that is Dave approved. :P
At first I thought Dave was too low energy, but his consistency and honesty makes it so easy to trust his views. He never spins bad information to be 'might not be for everyone' etc.
Hey Jun, it’s always great to see different views on our products. We’re one of the first to design a whole board for “cherry mx low profile switches.” And full disclaimer, we never advertised this board as a “low profile keyboard,” although it is a lot slimmer compared to the average mechanical keyboard. It’s all personal preference. We wanted to make something sleek and slim but with a great cherry mx typing experience.
For honest review, shout out to Flossy Carter. He's doing the best honest reviews in the game. But Dave is right there with much more cool animation and more entertaining stuffs.
Was seriously about to buy this CoolerMaster model. It was between this and the Keychron K3. Thanks for saving me some headaches with the Coolermaster. Going with the K3 instead now.
no no don't do that please for the love of god don't you will have a lot of typos and you're just gonna press random keys Trust me i have experience and am writing on a keyboard like this and have already made 7 typos so just don't
Just picked up a Roccat Vulcan - Low Profile Keyboard - for just $75 at a second hand shop (was still new). Really pleased with it so far. Kind of loud, but other than that.
Hey Marc, yep we wanted to design a whole new layout for Cherry MX’s new low profile switches. We wanted it to be sleek, slim and reach out to different demographics. Like most slim keyboards, the keycaps are not replaceable and we had to design our own stabilizers to have it work with the size of the board.
The separated USB connector is actually a very good design choice because keyboards with detachable cables are notorious for having loose USB ports after a while of use, so the separated chip is easier and cheaper to replace. Keychron has no plans to make layouts for non-US so that's out the window for me.
I don't know exactly how they marketed it, but I interpret "low profile" to be the switch height (ie. it has low profile switches). Not specifically the keyboard thickness itself. I'm way more interested in the key travel, if it's high I'll just use a wrist support.
if you're into a gaming review channel, check out Unwrap, they are pretty good at video games and i really like their reviews. they might do a review on a gaming mouse or keyboard and sometimes theyll compare big streamer's mice headphones, keyboards, bungees, ect.
I wish you said more about the issues with the Keychron K1, mainly that the keys fire before the click. The Hexgears X-1 also seem to have a similar issue. For a lot of people, this is a dealbreaker, as the click is supposed to serve as an indication for the actuation point. Unfortunately though, as far as I know, there isn't currently a good chiclet TKL keyboard with back lighting (mechanical or not).
the intro music is sick dude! so chill. back then when we still don't have smartphone, we gotta be careful when disassembling keyboard buttons... if we forgot the correct arrangement, we're kinda screwed until we see another keyboard haha.
Is the Keychron K1 really $75 for an RGB, Bluetooth, mechanical keyboard?! And one that looks so good AND charges over USB-C?!?! It looks way too good to be true for such a low cost.
For the money of the rgb version you could also get an anne pro 2. Not low profile, but it has the features you listed and im really loving it right now
4:33 is where you can hear how the keys sound -- thank you for this -- i wanted to hear what they sounded like before committing to a new keyboard -- currently using a Logi K750
I have been using a cooler master cmstorm quick fire rapid with cherry mx brown for 5 or so years and i love it. I have other mechanical keyboards, but this is the one i keep comming back too. Thanks for the information and time to put this video togther. Respect and apperication. Videos are time, work , and praise is deserved
Okay so I want to defend this keyboard. At least to the extent that I can. I have had this (SK630) keyboard for a week now and have thoroughly enjoyed it but D2D did make some valid points. 1. It isn't THAT low profile but it is a lot better than what I am coming from and is still great for me 2. Key caps are pretty close together but its better than my laptop so I am already used to it 3. Key caps have no dish but it a low profile keyboard and I don't think it would look right if it did Other things Eber from HardwareCunucks said: 1. No mute key but can be programmed in with software 2. No brightness control but can be changed in the software by adding more black to the color 3. No height adjust feet but I don't use anyways Responding to RandomFrankP - I wanted the Hexgears X1 sooo bad but a lot of the customer reviews complained about manufacturing issues and it is currently unavailable in most configs Pros of this keyboard: 1. Software - total key remapping and macros that allow mouse clicks too 2. shorter than most standard keyboards 3. I trust cherry and cooler master alot more than the smaller companies and Choc switches 4. light but does not move on desk and does not flex at all All in all I love the keyboard and I don't mind some of the short comings or quirks that it has. Its not for everyone but I love it!
Replying to your first statement. The keyboard is indeed lower profile than most gaming keyboards you would find, but if you can ditch the lighting there are keyboards with normal Cherry MX switches that are only 3mm higher. The Cherry MX Board 3.0 for instance is only a tad higher, the price is a lot lower and it doesn't have the problem with spacing that was mentioned. MX Board 1.0 is the same height, it even includes lighting and still has regular sized Cherry MX. It just doesn't feel right when keyboards that aren't marketed as low-profile are 1/10 higher or not at all than a keyboard that is designed to be low profile
never had a prob on laptop keyboards. lenovo even releases a separate thinkpad keyboard with dished and contoured keycaps. just something to get used to, not a defect.
Got the larger one for my mother's office setup for $75 buck off amazon. Its used in a professional environment, minimalist. Took about half a week for her to flow but she loves it. Its advantages are its aesthetics and that it feels like a superior laptop keyboard, something that appeals to some people, but not others. If you have a minimalist docking setup, this is nice.
I don't know why people keep complaining about spacing! I actually can't type on the typical mechanical keyboards because the keys are too far apart and I always hit the side of the keys
For me, if the keys are too close, I struggle to type as I keep hitting adjacent keys to the ones I target. For example, I have two keyboards - a Dell KB216 full size Chiclet membrane keyboard and a Logitech K230 compact wireless keyboard. The former has large spacing and is much, more easy to use and accurate than the latter in which the keys are way too close to each other. I will be receiving my first ever mechanical keyboard - Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L white LED, Cherry blue - today and will see how it goes. PS: I think people complain about spacing for the same reason that you do. You need short spacing while others need full spacing.
nothing bad with the keyboard as long as you can type anything at will and if that's the only budget you have. Not everyone is like you that can afford high end products.
In the market for a new keyboard and finally I come across a host that not only understands what it is he's talking about but delivers it soundly as well. Nicely done, and agree with your review.
I will say after having the CoolerMaster SK650 for a year, it was definitely a challenge not hitting almost every key at once when first using it, but after a while it stopped becoming a problem, but during then; how it looked and felt still outweighed how difficult it was to type on at first.
@zuckdaddy1596 I don't believe I did, I haven't used that keyboard in a while, but I have a friend still using them without issues, you might have just been unlucky.
Hi Dave, can you recommend any low profile 75% or 60% keyboards? The Keychron K1 looks great but is far too big at 87 keys. The SK621 as you point out is not low profile. Same with the Royal Kludge RK61/Skyloong K61/Anne Pro 2/Ducky One2/Vortexgear Pok3r. The Hexgears X-1 is close but too big, same with Tesoro and Havit KB390L. The few serious options I can see are the Logitech K380, Bazalia 8839, Magic_Refiner MK10 and Apple Magic Keyboard but they all have their flaws...
I'd also consider a compact board with ten key and bluetooth as long as it's low-profile. Unfortunately there are only really two realistic candidates, the Hexgears X-1 and Drevo Joyeuse version 1. Unfortunately both are almost impossible to find and the X-1 has many flaws including very flaky bluetooth and faulty switches while the Drevo is even rarer in the bluetooth form, is a bit bulky and has that hideous gap. My endgame would probably be a bluetooth Vortex Tab 90M but without the bezel and with low profike keys instead of the massive ones it sports. A Red Scarf III or Vortex Race 3 colour scheme for keycaps would be great too.
I know this video is a year old, but maybe someone will still discover it and read the comments like I did. I came to this video in search of a replacement for my Logitech K810 keyboard and wanted to try something new with the Cooler Master SK621 Bluetooth keyboard, but now having second thoughts. Does anyone have any recommendations? Preferred features: Bluetooth, backlit and USB-C
Hi Dave. Great vid as usual. :) They need to create a keycap set for these but with a strong angled bezel to make the top of the cap take less space which in turn will spread them apart. They should also make the whole set to have a concave curvature (albeit shallower) along the vertical axis as in a normal mech keyboard. With those in place they would have a nice KB. The sound of the keys is quite perfect already. Optionally, since the keycap's bezel are angled they could leave the last 2mm at the bottom of each cap white, allowing the caps to have a nice RGB lit border. CoolerMaster should just team up with Corsair and both use iCUE (make iCUE a framework for all these companies) instead of competing for RGB implementations. Having multiple RGB apps is a big NO NO! Wireless makes no sense, who would bring a laptop along with a KB anyway? Only pro gamers I guess, and they prefer to go wired anyway. So I would save the cost of a wireless device and use the extra resources to create a better keyboard.
Own them for nearly a year before some keys started registering double presses even though I've only pressed them once. They're very hard to type with speed and accuracy in because of the spacing. You will end up having lots of typos while using these
got it, despite all of the reviews saying "it's shit" best keyboard i ever got. I was worried about the keys as well, but once you get used to it, your hand flies very fast over the caps! great keyboard
@@marcusborderlands6177 many ! many many keyboards. once you get used to this thing, its the best ever! VERY nice to type on, and the media keys are fantastically placed when you use your thumb on the fn symbol, you can change media easily even when gaming. it's awesome!
I actually like how they have the USB C PCB seperate from the main PCB, it makes it easier to replace the port down the line (and my family usually needs to retire keyboards because of damages connectors that we don't have time to fix, which meana we often end up purchasing a ton of cheap keyboards).
Damn Dave, first time seeing one of your videos and wow you actually reviewed and compared them in a meaningful extensive way! Taking them apart, comparing them to multiple other keyboards and demonstrating the quirks on these seemingly 'universal' features. Amazing! Best of all you even recorded the sound of typing on them in quick succession, you can tell so much about a keyboard by how it sounds, it's a major aspect. I hit the keys hard but shallow, and so big, heavy, clicky mechanical switches don't suit me because it sounds like I'm drumming and occasionally the keys won't register because I don't depress them far enough, so I use low profile, short & flat keyboards that are quiet. Was seriously interested in the concept of a low profile mechanical keyboard but your review has saved me like what $150? Thanks man. Genuinely. Thank you. Subbed.
I come from a lapop and from a logitech k360, and this keyboard looks terrific to me in comparison with a classic mechanical keyboard. It depends what you are used too.
I am using a keyboard and mouse combo of 9$ ... But hey ...they have rgb ... Not real rgb its just rainbow colour coming from back ...no movements nothing lol...it still looks good tho
Cherry didn't recently got into the low profile game. They introduced low profile switches back in the 90's. These were called Cherry ML switches, those look very similar to the Gateron low profile you have on that Keychron K1 keyboard. Cherry ML never got very populair but I type on a new old Cherry ML board and I actually kinda like them. People complain they are feel scratchy but that goes away after a year or so. Cherry ML are really unappreciated and now they get copied by other brands. I just dont understand all the hate for Cherry. Cherry ML's aren't perfect when new but they really get better with age.
Having the connector NOT being part of the PCB is actually good. This means that it wont break off from the main PCB when plugged/unplugged many times as it doesn't put any stress on the main board. Could it have been implemented smarter? Sure it probably could, but this is something you pay a premium for when buying a ThinkPad, where the charge port is separate from the main motherboard.
Looking to sell two awesome coolermaster keyboards. hit me up for details. jk
i wanted these keyboards to be amazing because they look so good. But they're terrible. DON'T BE FOOLED
Regular man: I’m look to BUY an keyboard !
The man who watched the video: OH look DAVE HAS 2!
I am interested in buying the full size keyboard
What is the point of cherry stems if u can't swap the caps?
Do you think that a similar kind of design (flat keycaps, laptop style) but with regular cherry switches and correct spacing between keys could work?
I just can't stand those keyboards that look like they're straight up from the '70s...
Dave waiting for ISV certified workstations laptops review
Can't avoid them if I can't buy them
*Laughs in broke*
How do I like this twice
😂
This is true ;-;
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Cant afford would of been better
Yes, avoid keyboards with only the letters B-A-D on them
qwertyuiopBADfghjklzxcvbnm
abcdefghBADhhgsuejdjwodz
@@VineVast *ONLY*
Yes.
oh shit i have to throw mine away
I'll buy a typewriter instead.
Fasshandi Vagischlande i d k h o w t o u s e
*chopstick typing intensifies*
Ill just by a piano, its the best loud profile.
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This is why companies don't like sending stuff to Dave and it's the same reason why I'm subscribed.
Honest reviews and nothing else
u are wrong Sir! we love hearing critical feedback. It’s hard to please everyone with every product so that’s why we have a wide selection with different switches, features, sizes, etc. What works for some might not work for others. Thousands of people around the world have already gotten these boards without complaint. The switches themselves are called “low profile switches” and we never advertised the board as being a low profile keyboard.
Cooler Master Gaming uh the second I clicked on your channel it says keep a low profile xD
@@CoolerMasterGaming So nice of you checking user's response. I really respect your level of concern on customer satisfaction. Unlike these Bullshit Dell guys, who ignore you right in your face with Coil Vineing XPS 15.
@@CoolerMasterGaming shut up, you guys didnt even send him a reviem unit....
"didnt even advertise"
get a load of this guy
What? It literally says “low profile” on your channel. How is that not “advertising”. Stop it - you guys make a good looking keyboard that’s not comfortable to type on. Just learn from your mistakes. No need to make excuses. Just looks petty. Send the next model with improvements to Dave if you’re serious about this product.
Why does he lowkey kinda look like if mr bean was young and asian
RiceField Worker lol
Exactly
Looks more like an Asian David Archuleta
A "low-profile" mr bean
@@AxleTrade it's the hair
Why am I suddenly getting so many keyboard recommendations
Cookies: "allow us to introduce ourselves..."
I mean you did watch it right
The Hairmonster101 My point is that prior to watching this video, I had never seen a keyboard video or shown interest to keyboards yet one day my recommended is full of keyboard related videos. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not
I Clara the point for UA-cam recommendations is to show videos you will watch and they did that
And it could be you seeing any tech videos or anything
1:58 i like how the screwdriver rolled away but not quite far just enough so it can still be in the scene
UA-cam guys do the most
I love how you're more focused on the screwdriver than the actual video lol 😂
it needs its showtime. it's not getting paid enough.
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I love where you attention is going to
dave protec
dave attac
most importantly he's not afraid to give your product crap.
dave tell you to avoid dat
Perfect
Lol
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@Aravind Krishna ...
in conclusion: they're low-profile but they're not.
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They are , 3.2 distance is low profile .
@@Tripokaridos22 you need to practice your punctuation
They are low profile, but they're not "lower" profile (as Dave said once in this video) :D
Dave: *tells us to avoid those keyboards even though they light up in RGB*
_The Linus Tech Tips team is typing..._
@@potato_x69 you're*
BEGONE Normie
@@andyt144 you're just jealous of him
Andy T ...
As time passes, it's getting harder to ignore you. Won't deny it's kind of annoying. Literally each and every comment section!!
But hey, it's RGB, which gives you 20% more fps. And if you set the leds to green, your pc will use less power and if you set them blue, your pc will run cooler.
sound like a game item
yeah, now my pc can run doom stable 60 fps on ultra with that keyboard.
get a gaming chair aswell! it will boost you fps by an additional 100 and 200 if it has rgb
Pure facts l&d
Sounds like you can´t afford an rbg keyboard.
Omg, I forgot what it felt like to watch a video that got straight to the point.
Right? Caught me off guard as well. This comment was brought to you by Squarespace.
I'm using the SK650 right now prior to my review. Not the easiest to type on and definitely expensive by comparison. I think it's more a showpiece than it is a truly "functional" keyboard.
Really just stick with scissor switches if you want a clean look rather than a good keyfeel
Better off making ur own keyboard if u want a showpiece.
Hey ScienceStudio, the keyboard takes about a week to get used to. We’ve been using them in the office and they’re more spaced it and better to type on than laptops. We all have our new travel keyboard now!
@@CoolerMasterGaming Good to see cooler master listening to tech tubers critiques 👍👍👍
@@CoolerMasterGaming shut up
CoolerMaster: "we're gonna beat our competitors by getting free publicity from this UA-cam dude"
_exact opposite happens_
Chris *curb your enthusiasm music plays*
Hopefully they learn from the honest reviews to better their products.
*surprised pikachu*
Im the 1000th like!
L Raven he lists each reason, also, there is no benefit to making a bad review. If anything, he is losing a brands trust in him just for an honest review. Also you spelled unbiased wrong.
I love the fact how it has a daughter board for the type c port, so that you can repair it when the type c port failes. that's good engineering to me. yes it makes the board a bit higher, but certainly not that much if you engineer it right.
Dude I just bought it and returned it. The actual switches themselves type like *ss. They're horrible - worse than a membrane keyboard. Not only that if you are going to be replacing a daughter board it's not a stretch to re-solder a USB connector. I've soldered/switched micro-USB on a Bluetooth speaker... I'm not sure how much harder USB-C is but the micro-USB didn't require any specialized solder tips - just good flux and a 25$ soldering iron with smaller tip..
why am I even watching this I have a 5€ trash keyboard and I'm perfectly fine with it xD
what keyboard?
One of the best, or at least more comfortable quiet which I LOVE and great for typing keyboards ive ever bought was a standard $20 wireless logitech keyboard (cant quite remember but it was cheap)
@@jameskennedy6227 ok, nice, *nobody asked if you have It or no*
@@jameskennedy6227 cynosa blows
Hiding From The Germs[] you wish u had one
I guess Dave is not going to get CoolerMaster sponsorship.
Already; thus the video.
juan dela lol
juan dela REVENGE! “Don’t sponsor me, ah?”
this actually is good for coolermaster, feedback for their product, it's not a hate review.
Yup
i like the style of this video. short, clean, to the point, yet thorough in your assertions. i currently use a cheap amazon keyboard that bends under the weight of my hands, and while it works and i actually really enjoy the way the keys feel, i am really excited to get into keyboards.
Check out the Hexgears X1 man, you'll dig it
Hey do the hexgears x-1 still have the problem with the actuation point and the tactile bump not being aligned with the choc whites and the choc brown because I was considering getting the choc reds because they're linear so they won't have that problem
Those reviews say otherwise. Yikes.
My own experience, the connection is just horrible. Bluetooth connection always drop and require re-pair. And the white switch also occasionally miss a key
I watched your video on it, I've just seen SO MANY VERY BAD reviews but I want it so bad.. I'm split!😢
How about the Tesoro Gram XS?
4:34 When my Boss is fast approaching my desk
LMAO )
those noises of the keys somehow makes me relaxed. like its satisfying or something
Lmao 😂
He aint typing any words tho lol.
@@roblo6387 it was a joke lol
Apple's Butterfly keyboard has left the chat
Wait till they announce their latest "quantum keyboard technology".😤😤
@@coffee-vz1nr Lmao
I love Apple’s 3rd gen butterfly keyboard. My personal fav is Razer’s high end keyboard that cost $200 but I forgot the name
Why are you in every goddamn comment section
@well wisher can't take a joke? Smh
Legend has it that Dave wears an underwear and no pants while recording.
Correct
@@Dave2D 😂wow
Haha 🤣
its ture, i am the record cam
😂😂😂😂😂
In conclusion: They're not low, they are tall.
And also: the keys are too close together, and too flat. So you make more typos.
I mean, wouldn't anyone avoid purchasing a keyboard with the only labels as B, A and D?
I would
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@@Nathansomething bad bad ba d dba bad
@@Nathansomething at least your spam isn’t as obnoxious lol.
Imo Dave is the best and most honest reviewer. I was really attracted to this keyboard myself. Dodging this one until coolermaster makes a revision that is Dave approved. :P
At first I thought Dave was too low energy, but his consistency and honesty makes it so easy to trust his views. He never spins bad information to be 'might not be for everyone' etc.
Hey Jun, it’s always great to see different views on our products. We’re one of the first to design a whole board for “cherry mx low profile switches.” And full disclaimer, we never advertised this board as a “low profile keyboard,” although it is a lot slimmer compared to the average mechanical keyboard. It’s all personal preference. We wanted to make something sleek and slim but with a great cherry mx typing experience.
For honest review, shout out to Flossy Carter. He's doing the best honest reviews in the game. But Dave is right there with much more cool animation and more entertaining stuffs.
@@hungtrumno did you just forget MKBHD?
@@arnav3133 nope I did not. MKBHD is the goat in tech review industry. But for the most honest emotions and reviews, nobody can surpass Floss.
“I got these about 2 weeks ago, and I’ve been using them since then.” - That shoutout to MKBHD is on point!
It's funny how you actually have a half decent comment with 0 likes, here ill give you your first one.
‘low profile’
‘laptop keyboard’
They are different
I am trash it’s a joke
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@@toby1385 r/woooosh
@@azaalea. no, just no
Dave Lee is the realest tech guy out there
chyrosran22 and rocket jump ninja: Am i a joke to you?
Except for his irrational, stockholm-syndrom driven love for Apple stuff
Sarah A what about the tech nigga?
Not to be racist btw
Stan Lee
Was seriously about to buy this CoolerMaster model. It was between this and the Keychron K3.
Thanks for saving me some headaches with the Coolermaster. Going with the K3 instead now.
I DON T NEED ANY KEYBOARD
I can Still type only WITH MY MOUSE
on-screen keyboard 8)
The irony lmao
That way they cant track your typing type. How you type how hard you press it.
@@atiagooqkinguliaalu4027 What are you even talking about? Since when did keyboards output how hard a key is pressed?
@@theblinkstykrab3106 some keyboard even keep information about the end use rgb pattern
That typing montage was so amazing and satisfying, can someone please make a 10 hour version
im gheiii
The new office plague: clickity clackity mechanical keyboards just grind your ear drums all day long
MKASMR
This link is for u listenonrepeat.com/?v=S5-12O3kiho&s=273&e=289#Avoid_These_Keyboards!
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I just love how you transparently described the keyboards. Very informative, thus very helpful. Thanks!
*me:* B A D... That's an odd layout
*Also me:* OH BAD
you can arrange the keycaps
the small spacing between the keycaps is the main reason i will try this keyoboard
No you're not supposed to do that
🤦♂️
Lol
That’s not good
no no don't do that please for the love of god don't you will have a lot of typos and you're just gonna press random keys
Trust me i have experience and am writing on a keyboard like this and have already made 7 typos so just don't
Just picked up a Roccat Vulcan - Low Profile Keyboard - for just $75 at a second hand shop (was still new).
Really pleased with it so far. Kind of loud, but other than that.
It's still a pretty keyboard though
One of the prettiest
but pretty doesn’t equal good just looks good
Don't fall for it!
Hey Marc, yep we wanted to design a whole new layout for Cherry MX’s new low profile switches. We wanted it to be sleek, slim and reach out to different demographics. Like most slim keyboards, the keycaps are not replaceable and we had to design our own stabilizers to have it work with the size of the board.
True. So hard to resist
The separated USB connector is actually a very good design choice because keyboards with detachable cables are notorious for having loose USB ports after a while of use, so the separated chip is easier and cheaper to replace.
Keychron has no plans to make layouts for non-US so that's out the window for me.
I don't know exactly how they marketed it, but I interpret "low profile" to be the switch height (ie. it has low profile switches). Not specifically the keyboard thickness itself. I'm way more interested in the key travel, if it's high I'll just use a wrist support.
4:35 Dave flexing on us🤯
New drinking game... every time he says "Low Profile" take a shot.
Prepare enough alcohol to take 19 shots then.
More like etey time he says the letter O
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How many times did dave says “low profile”?
what the fk is a low profile keyboard?
@@busimo a low height keyboard
18 times.
Not counting the time he said "lower profile"
Also not counting the 3 times he typed it out.
@@lonelycandle9554 you have a lot of time on ur hands.. lol 😂😂
@@Kittyxoxo Haha. Yea
best tech youtuber/person in my opinion
Thumbs if you liked it, subs if you loved it.
If you haven't already, check out MKBHD. The format of his videos are really similar to that of Dave and I think you'll like him a lot.
@@wilfriedsteinbach8700 his openings tho
if you're into a gaming review channel, check out Unwrap, they are pretty good at video games and i really like their reviews. they might do a review on a gaming mouse or keyboard and sometimes theyll compare big streamer's mice headphones, keyboards, bungees, ect.
I have a wireless sk621. It does not come with a dongle, and keeps losing bt connection (to both my laptop and desktop). Would not recommend!
I wish you said more about the issues with the Keychron K1, mainly that the keys fire before the click. The Hexgears X-1 also seem to have a similar issue. For a lot of people, this is a dealbreaker, as the click is supposed to serve as an indication for the actuation point. Unfortunately though, as far as I know, there isn't currently a good chiclet TKL keyboard with back lighting (mechanical or not).
the intro music is sick dude! so chill.
back then when we still don't have smartphone, we gotta be careful when disassembling keyboard buttons... if we forgot the correct arrangement, we're kinda screwed until we see another keyboard haha.
This was a great video. Concise, focused, and articulate. Good stuff man!
Is the Keychron K1 really $75 for an RGB, Bluetooth, mechanical keyboard?! And one that looks so good AND charges over USB-C?!?! It looks way too good to be true for such a low cost.
AbuBakr Akram LED is $74 but RGB is $84
For the money of the rgb version you could also get an anne pro 2. Not low profile, but it has the features you listed and im really loving it right now
シュラ motospeed ck61 is rgb Bluetooth mechanical and its $40
4:33 is where you can hear how the keys sound -- thank you for this -- i wanted to hear what they sounded like before committing to a new keyboard -- currently using a Logi K750
By those sounds i like low profile cherry red both coolermasters
I have been using a cooler master cmstorm quick fire rapid with cherry mx brown for 5 or so years and i love it. I have other mechanical keyboards, but this is the one i keep comming back too.
Thanks for the information and time to put this video togther. Respect and apperication. Videos are time, work , and praise is deserved
Okay so I want to defend this keyboard. At least to the extent that I can.
I have had this (SK630) keyboard for a week now and have thoroughly enjoyed it but D2D did make some valid points.
1. It isn't THAT low profile but it is a lot better than what I am coming from and is still great for me
2. Key caps are pretty close together but its better than my laptop so I am already used to it
3. Key caps have no dish but it a low profile keyboard and I don't think it would look right if it did
Other things Eber from HardwareCunucks said:
1. No mute key but can be programmed in with software
2. No brightness control but can be changed in the software by adding more black to the color
3. No height adjust feet but I don't use anyways
Responding to RandomFrankP - I wanted the Hexgears X1 sooo bad but a lot of the customer reviews complained about manufacturing issues and it is currently unavailable in most configs
Pros of this keyboard:
1. Software - total key remapping and macros that allow mouse clicks too
2. shorter than most standard keyboards
3. I trust cherry and cooler master alot more than the smaller companies and Choc switches
4. light but does not move on desk and does not flex at all
All in all I love the keyboard and I don't mind some of the short comings or quirks that it has. Its not for everyone but I love it!
Thanks for your thoughts! We're glad you're enjoying your experience with the SK630!
@@CoolerMasterGaming I was not expecting a direct response from CM! Thanks for making a keyboard that I love to use everyday
Replying to your first statement. The keyboard is indeed lower profile than most gaming keyboards you would find, but if you can ditch the lighting there are keyboards with normal Cherry MX switches that are only 3mm higher. The Cherry MX Board 3.0 for instance is only a tad higher, the price is a lot lower and it doesn't have the problem with spacing that was mentioned. MX Board 1.0 is the same height, it even includes lighting and still has regular sized Cherry MX. It just doesn't feel right when keyboards that aren't marketed as low-profile are 1/10 higher or not at all than a keyboard that is designed to be low profile
never had a prob on laptop keyboards. lenovo even releases a separate thinkpad keyboard with dished and contoured keycaps. just something to get used to, not a defect.
Nice thumbnail though
Got the larger one for my mother's office setup for $75 buck off amazon. Its used in a professional environment, minimalist. Took about half a week for her to flow but she loves it. Its advantages are its aesthetics and that it feels like a superior laptop keyboard, something that appeals to some people, but not others. If you have a minimalist docking setup, this is nice.
You're one of the best tech reviewers ❤❤❤
I don't know why people keep complaining about spacing! I actually can't type on the typical mechanical keyboards because the keys are too far apart and I always hit the side of the keys
For me, if the keys are too close, I struggle to type as I keep hitting adjacent keys to the ones I target. For example, I have two keyboards - a Dell KB216 full size Chiclet membrane keyboard and a Logitech K230 compact wireless keyboard. The former has large spacing and is much, more easy to use and accurate than the latter in which the keys are way too close to each other. I will be receiving my first ever mechanical keyboard - Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro L white LED, Cherry blue - today and will see how it goes.
PS: I think people complain about spacing for the same reason that you do. You need short spacing while others need full spacing.
nothing bad with the keyboard as long as you can type anything at will and if that's the only budget you have. Not everyone is like you that can afford high end products.
@2:48 I was expecting him to say “but it’s not thunderbolt 3 so you can’t connect an external gpu”
Dave Rigs Every Thing...!
4:27 he's probably typing out a great meme
In the end, it's all about personal preference
This is not a review.. he is just shitting on it because he doesnt prefer the style..
@@curlytopkid6952 a review should have no bias imo. Just facts and move on
5:49 idk using this keyboard pretty long and I love it!
In the market for a new keyboard and finally I come across a host that not only understands what it is he's talking about but delivers it soundly as well. Nicely done, and agree with your review.
I will say after having the CoolerMaster SK650 for a year, it was definitely a challenge not hitting almost every key at once when first using it, but after a while it stopped becoming a problem, but during then; how it looked and felt still outweighed how difficult it was to type on at first.
did you have any problems with keys double typing?? I've had two of these keyboards now and I love them, but they all double type
@zuckdaddy1596 I don't believe I did, I haven't used that keyboard in a while, but I have a friend still using them without issues, you might have just been unlucky.
@@LunarcomplexMain goodness man, I appreciate the quick reply on a 3y old comment lol. happy thanksgiving!
@zuckdaddy1596 np lmao thanks you too!
Hi Dave, can you recommend any low profile 75% or 60% keyboards?
The Keychron K1 looks great but is far too big at 87 keys. The SK621 as you point out is not low profile. Same with the Royal Kludge RK61/Skyloong K61/Anne Pro 2/Ducky One2/Vortexgear Pok3r.
The Hexgears X-1 is close but too big, same with Tesoro and Havit KB390L.
The few serious options I can see are the Logitech K380, Bazalia 8839, Magic_Refiner MK10 and Apple Magic Keyboard but they all have their flaws...
turkeyphant gk84 plz
@@dkimmortal Not remotely low profile.
I'd also consider a compact board with ten key and bluetooth as long as it's low-profile. Unfortunately there are only really two realistic candidates, the Hexgears X-1 and Drevo Joyeuse version 1. Unfortunately both are almost impossible to find and the X-1 has many flaws including very flaky bluetooth and faulty switches while the Drevo is even rarer in the bluetooth form, is a bit bulky and has that hideous gap. My endgame would probably be a bluetooth Vortex Tab 90M but without the bezel and with low profike keys instead of the massive ones it sports. A Red Scarf III or Vortex Race 3 colour scheme for keycaps would be great too.
I was not expecting the depth of the review!
Learnt a bunch of new stuff on mechanical keyboards
I could see four "first" comments out there. Nobody should say first if you don't have a 10 gigabit ethernet.
First second
"probably should have done this in advance"
literally part of an edited youtube video :)
why does this have 86 likes...
@@yowogurt227 it still has 86 likes lol
Suushi it should stay that way ☺️
He meant before shooting the video
@@yowogurt227 yes, yes it should
0:01 talking
1:21 starts taking apart the keyboards
4:34 sound test
4:51 more talking
Me watching this with no interest in getting a new keyboard: "hmmmm, interesting..."
Same lol
Dave i can hear a kind of noise in the background, may the problem with the mic!
Your videos are beautiful, informational, and are not stretched timewise. I love them
He screwed that keyboard so hard
It actually separated
I own logi’s new tkl, loving it yet a rippoff price. Best keyboard ive used to date is my Sony VAIO laptop.
Yes, I still dont understand how keyboard manufacturers didnt yet realice all we need is just the EXACT same keyboard of a laptop, on the desk.
@@korolario laptops dont have mechanical keyboards 99% of the time they membranes so you wouldn't want the same one only if you like membranes
I know this video is a year old, but maybe someone will still discover it and read the comments like I did. I came to this video in search of a replacement for my Logitech K810 keyboard and wanted to try something new with the Cooler Master SK621 Bluetooth keyboard, but now having second thoughts. Does anyone have any recommendations? Preferred features: Bluetooth, backlit and USB-C
Hi Dave. Great vid as usual. :)
They need to create a keycap set for these but with a strong angled bezel to make the top of the cap take less space which in turn will spread them apart. They should also make the whole set to have a concave curvature (albeit shallower) along the vertical axis as in a normal mech keyboard. With those in place they would have a nice KB. The sound of the keys is quite perfect already.
Optionally, since the keycap's bezel are angled they could leave the last 2mm at the bottom of each cap white, allowing the caps to have a nice RGB lit border.
CoolerMaster should just team up with Corsair and both use iCUE (make iCUE a framework for all these companies) instead of competing for RGB implementations. Having multiple RGB apps is a big NO NO!
Wireless makes no sense, who would bring a laptop along with a KB anyway? Only pro gamers I guess, and they prefer to go wired anyway. So I would save the cost of a wireless device and use the extra resources to create a better keyboard.
The best meaning of "Don't judge a book by its cover"
Own them for nearly a year before some keys started registering double presses even though I've only pressed them once. They're very hard to type with speed and accuracy in because of the spacing. You will end up having lots of typos while using these
I still don't know why youtube is recommending me keyboard stuff I'm literally on mobile.
you keep watching them lol
same here though :D
CoolerMaster: 3 million people are coming be ready.
DaveLee Enters with a red flag...
CoolerMaster: And here they go.
Oh this was about typing, I was here for gaming
gaming
got it, despite all of the reviews saying "it's shit"
best keyboard i ever got. I was worried about the keys as well, but once you get used to it, your hand flies very fast over the caps! great keyboard
DynaCentral you even watched the video??
@@noahk yap i did. it's bullshit. have the keyboard now. best thing ive ever gotten
what keyboards have you used lmao.
@@marcusborderlands6177 many ! many many keyboards. once you get used to this thing, its the best ever! VERY nice to type on, and the media keys are fantastically placed when you use your thumb on the fn symbol, you can change media easily even when gaming. it's awesome!
@@skyguy1988 huh. I couldn't stand mine personally. It felt like shit compared to some really cheap redragons I had sitting around.
Hey Dave, can you check out the keychron k1 keyboards? Would love to hear your thoughts on them!
Was ready to pull the trigger on one of these puppies. Great depth on this man. You changed my mind.
I actually like how they have the USB C PCB seperate from the main PCB, it makes it easier to replace the port down the line (and my family usually needs to retire keyboards because of damages connectors that we don't have time to fix, which meana we often end up purchasing a ton of cheap keyboards).
Been using this kb for a while now and i think it's great, and i've used a lot.
I honestly didn’t even know Cooler Master made keyboards. I only knew they made cooling products like CPU coolers and things of that nature.
Damn Dave, first time seeing one of your videos and wow you actually reviewed and compared them in a meaningful extensive way! Taking them apart, comparing them to multiple other keyboards and demonstrating the quirks on these seemingly 'universal' features. Amazing!
Best of all you even recorded the sound of typing on them in quick succession, you can tell so much about a keyboard by how it sounds, it's a major aspect.
I hit the keys hard but shallow, and so big, heavy, clicky mechanical switches don't suit me because it sounds like I'm drumming and occasionally the keys won't register because I don't depress them far enough, so I use low profile, short & flat keyboards that are quiet. Was seriously interested in the concept of a low profile mechanical keyboard but your review has saved me like what $150? Thanks man. Genuinely. Thank you. Subbed.
I come from a lapop and from a logitech k360, and this keyboard looks terrific to me in comparison with a classic mechanical keyboard. It depends what you are used too.
I didn't want to buy a laptop keyboard but I watched the video. Well-explained and attention to details. Nice!
lol I am using a $7 keyboard
You're paying too much for a keyboard , who's your keyboard guy
I use a $3 one
exactly
@@rahulgavri really? I am using the cheapest keyboard I can find from Amazon.
I paid $11 for a cheap logitech keyboard and it's amazing for my use. It is also a good excuse if I perform bad in games.
I am using a keyboard and mouse combo of 9$ ... But hey ...they have rgb ... Not real rgb its just rainbow colour coming from back ...no movements nothing lol...it still looks good tho
They sent out free replacement keycaps with deeper dishes and more space between each key so I'm actually a fan now
Just purchased a k1 and was so pleased to see it used as an example of a good keyboard.
Legend has it that to this day, Dave's screwdriver is still rolling.
(1:58)
You can see it stopped rolling🤦♂️
@@mae896 some one missed the joke
Drinking game:
Take a shot every time Dave says "low profile" in this video
So original haha so funny😑
4:32 For some reason the audio of people typing furiously on a keyboard makes me uncomfortable
Cherry didn't recently got into the low profile game. They introduced low profile switches back in the 90's. These were called Cherry ML switches, those look very similar to the Gateron low profile you have on that Keychron K1 keyboard. Cherry ML never got very populair but I type on a new old Cherry ML board and I actually kinda like them. People complain they are feel scratchy but that goes away after a year or so. Cherry ML are really unappreciated and now they get copied by other brands. I just dont understand all the hate for Cherry. Cherry ML's aren't perfect when new but they really get better with age.
When your mum gives you a office keyboard
Me to gamers: I got a new keyboard
SnoopyWoop ? 69 likes
Is that zero two?🤤
@@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure yes
Akina Hachi Roku simp
If it’s zero two I’m on board
Having the connector NOT being part of the PCB is actually good. This means that it wont break off from the main PCB when plugged/unplugged many times as it doesn't put any stress on the main board. Could it have been implemented smarter? Sure it probably could, but this is something you pay a premium for when buying a ThinkPad, where the charge port is separate from the main motherboard.
So It's a bad keyboard because it's not the perfect Keyboard?