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At first I was way off. After you showed the waveform I was about 50/50 and once you said it was tines and reeds, I was all over that. thank you for the insight
I missed two songs... One playing with the basses of the rhod and the other playing with the highs of the wurli. Clearly in the mid tones they are kind of different sounds. not a chance for mistaken them. Thanks 4 the vid. I was used to the rhodes sounds but not for the wurli and it explains so well. BTW, Im certainly more of a Rhodes one :)
I did excellent but just because l knew all of ten, nevertheless, here is the thing: The Beatles " Get Back" ? i ALWAYS played that one with a Wurly patch, so l was shocked watching Billy Preston playing it on Seventy Three .... Some Neo Souls Tracks (Moonchild for instance ) have such a high level of sononic production that I've found myself doubting whether the patch is a Rhodes or a Wurly. Loved the video, love your channel, best wishes for you and your loved ones.
To my guitarist ears, the Wurli sound always has a bit of crunchy breakup when played a bit harder, like an overdriven guitar. The Rhodes is cleaner and has more headroom, with a bit of bell-like chime mixed in.
Guitar analogy: A Rhodes is like a Rickenbacker played through a clean Vox AC30 whereas a Wurli is like a Les Paul played through a Vox AC30 on the edge of breakup
Yea man that Rhodes is so clear and bell like. It’s sounds shiny. The Wurlitzer sounds warm, but when played harder sounds crunchier. I think that crunchiness is what makes it identifiable.
This was incredible and will rewatch several times, I am sure. You answered so many questions I've had for years, specifically about the terminology and distinctions. Point for point, so helpful and entertaining. Thanks!
To me, the Rhodes can be chimey and glassy, but it you use the right effects and amping, it can be a little gritty and funky, but I think it naturally is more bell-like, The Wurly is naturally more punchy, bluesy and as you said, gritty. I could get my Rhodes to sound like my Wurly with a limiting overdrive effect I have in a multi effects box, but I could never get the Wurly to sound like a Rhodes.
You play all the parts very accurately. Cool to see a young cat who takes the time to figure out the parts on these old tunes. BTW, the really hard comparison is between Wurlis and Hohners which were very similar and the little wooden case model often appears on Beatles, Zombies and Fleetwood Mac tunes…possibly These Eyes was a Hohner but who knows?
I have always said , the easiest way to tell them apart is the Wurli has a more "hollow", almost "square wave-like" sound to it, whereas the Rhodes is more "bell-like" and ringing. You can especially hear this in a more pronounced way on both pianos when they have a chorus effect on them.
I have a '69 Wurlitzer 200, and before that I had a '74 200a. They sound quite a lot different - the reeds on the 200 are thinner and sound growlier. On the 200 the felt on the lower half of the hammer tips is different and the upper half has leather - also contributing to the raunch. The electronics are very different and the vibrato circuit on the 200 just sounds nicer to me. The Alnico speakers on the 200 make a difference as well - I usually mic those up to record it. Overall I much preferred the 200, so I kept that and sold the 200a as I just did not have the space - I also have an '80's Rhodes and a not very big recording room, so something had to go.
A wooden case on the 140a and Germanium transistors are the main differences. The 140a is much closer in sound to the early 200 series ('68 - '70). That's why I have a '69 200 - all the tone and a lot less weight etc.@@TryptychUK
I still prefer Rhodes, sound wise, but I like Wurlitzer also, it depends on song, although on lower registers can't distinguish between them. I agree, Supertramp is great song.
Your explanation during the mechanics section was extremely helpful. Both instruments had been out of production for a considerable length of time. The whole issue of copyright is a factor with DX-7 emulations as well. As an example the DX-7 emulation on my Casio WK-200 is called FM and one of the Rhodes emulations is called Dyno EP. I have seen tines and reed used in virtual synths as well. The name certainly is copyrighted but the sound associated with it has long since then been in the public domain. The trademark owners are well aware of these issues. Now whenever I buy another portable arranger or a workstation, I know what to look for
Thanks for the awesome video! I think they become less distinguishable in the bass, and dare I say indistinguishable in the lower and mid registers if you process the signals in certain ways.
I got them all right. 👍🏼 However, one popular tune with a distinct EP sound that I’ve always had trouble discerning which one is it, is Santana’s Black Magic Woman.
Very well explained and very well performed! Great job! You play it all so close that @ 5:04 it reminds me of Maurice Gibb's smile. BTW I prefer the Rhodes. For me, there's nothing like a Rhodes with some reverb and chorus. I'm 57 y.o. and I've never played a Rhodes or a Whurly (but I have a Reface CP and a MODX and I imagine I'm doing that).
Pretty easy. For me I MUCH prefer the Rhodes, though I love keyboards like the SV2 that allow you to have a rhodes sound while dialing in dynamic based grit that rears it's beautiful head when you use a harder attack. Best of both worlds
yeah ! I haven't touched either for maybe 40 years - but I still remember preferring the Wurli - notice the Hammond off to the side there - so covering all the bases - good video thanks. I got most of them right.
While I've never taken the time to listen to the differences before, watching this its obvious to tell them apart on some songs, but other songs its not, particularly those played in lower registers.
There's a thunderstorm outside right now and eerily just when you started playing Riders on the Storm (07:35) there was thunder joining in.. Roland sometimes call them 1976SuitCase and Wurly 200.
When I was young I found that sometimes I like the sound of EP more than other times. Eventually I worked out that I like Wurlis and don't particularly care for Rhodes. I got every example right in the test.
Before this vidéo i've didnt hear anything about the Wurli. Now i Can Say, "Nice job on the Wurli" instead of the Rhodes. Thanks you for this vidéo. Very clear and cool and instructive 👍🏽😁
Well done, thanks! I've wondered about this. I think the samples also confirm to me that Wurlitzer has something about its timbre that, if it had to be described as abstractly as synth sounds are, it could be described as 'plastic'. A plastic electric piano, while Rhodes falls more under 'bells/mallets' as a sub tag to describe the timbre or what you recognise in the tone.
As a kid during the 70s I first heard Rhodes through the Charlie Brown animated specials and Taxi theme. Late 70s I heard Goodbye stranger and Logical Sog from Supertramp. I love the sounds of both these two keyboards. To my ears, the Wurli sounds a tad fuller & brighter, whereas the Rhodes has a tighter shorter attack. Of course both have their own vibrato & choreus effects. Love exploring the famous songs that use both pianos
With the rhodes, you can hear the pluck of the tines in the attack, even when you play softly. The wurli always sounds quite chorussy & overdriven, which couls be sue to how they've tended to be recorded during the 70s. Both are beautiful instruments.
I've been trying to figure out how to translate a piano score for a musical I'm playing (that asks for both these instruments) to be played on my humble little Yamaha keyboard that only has like 14 pre-built patches (3 for e. piano sounds). This video was very helpful. As soon as you explained it as tines vs. reeds I was able to easily hear the difference. I've still got a lot to learn on piano compared to my primary instrument but this is definitely gonna help me get the sounds I need. Now I just need to figure out what the score wants when it says "RMI". I think it's shorthand for Rocky Mountain Instruments but who knows? lol
I love the versatality of the Rhodes, you can easyliy add some grit by adding saturation with the amp or any guitar effect. The sweet-spot where dynamic playing leads to break-up is pure gold.
I got every one right, but then I've been working with both for over 40 years. :) I describe them as "tinkle" versus "boing." The Rhodes has a very distinctive bell-like quality, particularly in the upper registers, whereas the Wurli is rather more muted, but has that distinctive bottom-end growly springy sound notably heard on a lot of Supertramp. They both have their roles, but personally I would call a Wurlitzer 200a every time.
I don’t generally have any trouble telling them apart, Rhodes: bell-like, Wurlitzer: barky, growly. But I play a Hohner Pianet T (Not the more well-known “N”), and THAT can really confound people, haha.
Thanks for making this.. I never knew there was such a difference, and have always generically called both sounds "rhodes".. I could tell the difference though, especially in the higher tones..
A bit of phaser and tremolo always goes down well with a Wurli. Chorus warms Rhodes up a treat. Reverb is always great with both. And....oh man....check out the studio version of The Noonward Race from Inner Mounting Flame album by Mahavishnu Orchestra, to hear what a ring modulator does for electric piano. That's Czech keyboard player Jan Hammer on keys, he whacks on the ring mod half way through his solo.
Thanks Devin! Got the first comparison wrong!!! Dang it! I thought I would do well, NOT. Lol but love both of them. Is there a portable affordable keyboard out there that mimic both fairly well? thank you. Cheers from Motown!
Excellence, thank you! Now how in the hell do I figure out what piano to use on my Juno DS for Locomotive Breath???? Like 150 pianos and none of them sound right ,lol.
To me, the Rhodes sounds more like a set of bells or, with some trem, a vibraphone. The Wurli, meanwhile, sounds simply like a piano run through an amp. However folks separate them in their minds, this was a great video.
Great video, thanks for posting! I always considered the sound of a Fender Rhodes as being “chimey”, sorta bell-like, whereas the Wurli is “beefier,” and…hmmm…I’m not sure that “edgier” is the best description for a Wurli, as I’ve heard both the Rhodes and the Wurli sound edgy when played through an amp, or driving a preamp harder… but to me, the Wurli sorta has more “weight” to it? It’s tough to describe. I don’t prefer one over the other, I love both, it depends on the context in which they’re used. Each has its place…I wouldn’t want to hear Supertramp’s “Bloody Well Right” or Ray Charles’ “What’d I Say” played on a Rhodes any more than I’d want to hear 10cc’s “I’m Not In Love” or George Benson’s version of “This Masquerade” played on a Wurli… I do know one thing for certain: I’d be perfectly happy to never have to hear the Yamaha DX7 “Rhodes” patch ever again! 😂 🙏
That mountain stream looks so much like near where I live, but I can't place it. Wondering what the crane over the ridge is for, also. I'm thinking maybe a dam repair. The fencing on the left side seems weird, also.
it probably really depends on the settings but it sounds like the rhodes has a more softer/hollow sound while the whirly feels slightly more overdriven
Thanks for the demonstration. One question: what are we hearing here? The sound of the Wurly is from the internal speakers? What about the Rhodes? I can see a speaker cabinet below it... could you please shed some light on the actual sound capture for the video? Thank you very much!
I always thought the intro of Beck - Where it's at was a stolen sample, but when I tried to find out where he stole it it turned out to be his composition. Really cool! Does anyone know if it was Beck himself or someone in the band or studio that came up with it? I recently bought a midi keyboard for my studio and that was the first riff I tried to learn. Maybe its not for beginners...
This is most definitely an awesome video comparing renowned classic vintage electric pianos. In today’s practicality, most musicians use portable keyboards to replicate the sound of the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer Wurli Bird. In your professional estimation, what are the top three keyboards (make and model) and keyboard amps (make and model) that come closest to replicating the original sound of the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer Wurli Bird? Thank you in advance for your response.
I learned in the Rhodes in my high school jazz band, and have a certain affinity for it. However, there is just so much wonderful music out there involving both. I ended up getting three wrong, twice I identified the Rhides as a Wurli, and one a Wurli as a Rhides. Supergramp's riff I knew because I don't think I ever heard them use a Rhodes. Even more so, that was why I was looking up the difference between the two. Thank you for going into a little of the technical aspects. I've taken the cover off the Rhodes many times and knew how it produced sound, but nit as familiar with the Wurli. Now, I'm going to have to go search down the songs you plated and put them on a Playlist. MAN, all good music!
Okay, so I took your advice and listened to the Paul Simon song, and I really like it. But my issue is-WHAT LIVE VERSION? The Central Park show just didn’t hit the same to me, is it something else?
easy to know once you've got experience with both. never played the real items, but have had experience with good rhodes and wurli patches on my Roland.
Wurli, Rhodes, Hammond, etc. I still find it hard to tell them apart. I also have a problem with EP tones presets on my keyboards (Casio CDP-S350). For obvious reasons, they're just named "EP1", "EP2" etc. I wish someone made a chart with which tone is supposed to be which instrument!
Hammond doesn't belong because it's an organ. Think: Beck's "Where It's At" is a Wurlitzer 200a, and Bob James' "Angela" (the theme from Taxi) is the Rhodes.
How’d you do with the Rhodes vs. Wurli guessing game?!
🎹 Dig deeper into these songs - find lessons on most of them over at www.hdpiano.com
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Dancing in the Moonlight was a l;ittle tricky because u played upper register
100%. But I also own two wurlitzers and am quite familiar with their sounds. A 140 and 200A.
At first I was way off. After you showed the waveform I was about 50/50 and once you said it was tines and reeds, I was all over that. thank you for the insight
I missed two songs... One playing with the basses of the rhod and the other playing with the highs of the wurli. Clearly in the mid tones they are kind of different sounds. not a chance for mistaken them.
Thanks 4 the vid. I was used to the rhodes sounds but not for the wurli and it explains so well. BTW, Im certainly more of a Rhodes one :)
I did excellent but just because l knew all of ten, nevertheless, here is the thing: The Beatles " Get Back" ? i ALWAYS played that one with a Wurly patch, so l was shocked watching Billy Preston playing it on Seventy Three .... Some Neo Souls Tracks (Moonchild for instance ) have such a high level of sononic production that I've found myself doubting whether the patch is a Rhodes or a Wurly. Loved the video, love your channel, best wishes for you and your loved ones.
i always felt like the wurli is an electric Piano while the rhodes is an Electric piano
interesting!
What is the Yamaha CP-70 then ;)
@@NotDingse that's an Eleteric Piano
It's weird, I actually understand what you're saying 😂
Spot on!
To my guitarist ears, the Wurli sound always has a bit of crunchy breakup when played a bit harder, like an overdriven guitar. The Rhodes is cleaner and has more headroom, with a bit of bell-like chime mixed in.
Good descriptions here!
I agree.
Guitar analogy: A Rhodes is like a Rickenbacker played through a clean Vox AC30 whereas a Wurli is like a Les Paul played through a Vox AC30 on the edge of breakup
@@ahogammer6895 For me it’s like more like neck pickup through a Fender amp vs bridge pickup on a Vox.
True. You can overdrive a Wurli and it still sounds good, but distortion on a Rhodes just sounds nasty.
Yea man that Rhodes is so clear and bell like. It’s sounds shiny. The Wurlitzer sounds warm, but when played harder sounds crunchier. I think that crunchiness is what makes it identifiable.
Crunchy yes!
Perfect video for the people who started to listen Electric piano and don’t catch the sound differences.
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You literally played a bunch of my favorites from across genres, i owe you a sub sir!
The beautiful hammond on the background 👏🏻
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This was incredible and will rewatch several times, I am sure. You answered so many questions I've had for years, specifically about the terminology and distinctions. Point for point, so helpful and entertaining. Thanks!
Glad you dug it, Chris! Thanks
OMG, this is by far the best video comparing Rhodes with Wurlitzer!
Thank you!
You're very welcome!
To me, the Rhodes can be chimey and glassy, but it you use the right effects and amping, it can be a little gritty and funky, but I think it naturally is more bell-like, The Wurly is naturally more punchy, bluesy and as you said, gritty. I could get my Rhodes to sound like my Wurly with a limiting overdrive effect I have in a multi effects box, but I could never get the Wurly to sound like a Rhodes.
It's because the Wurlitzer seems as if all of it's high end was filtered out.
You play all the parts very accurately. Cool to see a young cat who takes the time to figure out the parts on these old tunes. BTW, the really hard comparison is between Wurlis and Hohners which were very similar and the little wooden case model often appears on Beatles, Zombies and Fleetwood Mac tunes…possibly These Eyes was a Hohner but who knows?
That was fun! Great job on this!
That was a lot of fun, thanks!
"Glassy" and "gritty" are perfect. I learned to tell the difference between the two using VSTs mimicking them.
perfect video, great job
Excellent video! I learned a lot. Thank you 😊
the way you compared them is excellent! really well done
Cool video! I learned a lot, thank you
This is such an awesome video! I've been trying to find a good way to explain the difference, and you absolutely nailed it!
Side notes: Incredibly jealous of your keyboard armory there, and are those didgeridoos on the left side??
Thanks, Seth!
this video is excellent. thank you!
I have always said , the easiest way to tell them apart is the Wurli has a more "hollow", almost "square wave-like" sound to it, whereas the Rhodes is more "bell-like" and ringing. You can especially hear this in a more pronounced way on both pianos when they have a chorus effect on them.
Thank you for the history lesson.
I have a '69 Wurlitzer 200, and before that I had a '74 200a.
They sound quite a lot different - the reeds on the 200 are thinner and sound growlier.
On the 200 the felt on the lower half of the hammer tips is different and the upper half has leather - also contributing to the raunch.
The electronics are very different and the vibrato circuit on the 200 just sounds nicer to me.
The Alnico speakers on the 200 make a difference as well - I usually mic those up to record it.
Overall I much preferred the 200, so I kept that and sold the 200a as I just did not have the space - I also have an '80's Rhodes and a not very big recording room, so something had to go.
I've often wondered about the difference between the 200 and 200a.
Have you ever tried a 140a?
A wooden case on the 140a and Germanium transistors are the main differences. The 140a is much closer in sound to the early 200 series ('68 - '70).
That's why I have a '69 200 - all the tone and a lot less weight etc.@@TryptychUK
@@alanhaynes418 Thanks for the heads-up. Good to know.
I preferred the Rhodes before listening to Supertramp, now I just adore the Wurli sound above everything else.
I still prefer Rhodes, sound wise, but I like Wurlitzer also, it depends on song, although on lower registers can't distinguish between them. I agree, Supertramp is great song.
SUPERTRAMP IS A BAND!
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Amazing video, Bro! great work
Appreciate it!
Very good and informative !
Thanks!
Very illuminating!
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what a wonderful picture seeing Wurli and Rhodes back to back ;-)
Thanks, I got a lot out of that video. It's much easier to tell the difference higher up on the keyboard (the Rhodes tines really resonate there).
Love your rendition of "How deep is your love." Closest to the original I've heard so far..
Dreamy vs. Bangy. Beautiful creations, the both of them.
Oh wow, it's easier to tell the difference than I thought. I love the Rhodes sound, it's so welcoming and warm, and bright, it's like a soft hug.
Great video!
Your explanation during the mechanics section was extremely helpful. Both instruments had been out of production for a considerable length of time. The whole issue of copyright is a factor with DX-7 emulations as well. As an example the DX-7 emulation on my Casio WK-200 is called FM and one of the Rhodes emulations is called Dyno EP. I have seen tines and reed used in virtual synths as well. The name certainly is copyrighted but the sound associated with it has long since then been in the public domain. The trademark owners are well aware of these issues. Now whenever I buy another portable arranger or a workstation, I know what to look for
is there a list of DX7 names and the instruments they're supposed to represent? (only the Wurly,Clavinet, Rhodes and drawbar stuff)
@@hermask815 the EP might be described as an FM EP
Well done! The fact of the tines vs the reeds did it for me! THEN my guesses were right!
Great vid!
7:16 It's not a copyright issue, It's a TRADEMARK issue -- a very different animal. Other than that, a wonderful, fun and informative video!
Thanks for the awesome video! I think they become less distinguishable in the bass, and dare I say indistinguishable in the lower and mid registers if you process the signals in certain ways.
I got them all right. 👍🏼 However, one popular tune with a distinct EP sound that I’ve always had trouble discerning which one is it, is Santana’s Black Magic Woman.
Pretty sure that was a Hohner piano, as used by the Beatles, Chicago and others.
Hearing Wait For The Moment on a Wurli made my day, that's literally one of my favourite songs of all time.
Very well explained and very well performed! Great job! You play it all so close that @ 5:04 it reminds me of Maurice Gibb's smile. BTW I prefer the Rhodes. For me, there's nothing like a Rhodes with some reverb and chorus. I'm 57 y.o. and I've never played a Rhodes or a Whurly (but I have a Reface CP and a MODX and I imagine I'm doing that).
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On Roland digital pianos, they're called "1976 Suitcase" and Wurly 200" which is probably the closest they could get without infringement.
88% for me. I really appreciated this video so much. Thank you.
Pretty easy. For me I MUCH prefer the Rhodes, though I love keyboards like the SV2 that allow you to have a rhodes sound while dialing in dynamic based grit that rears it's beautiful head when you use a harder attack. Best of both worlds
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Thumb up for the song! And actually I can hear the difference in the sound more confidently - thanks!!
yeah ! I haven't touched either for maybe 40 years - but I still remember preferring the Wurli - notice the Hammond off to the side there - so covering all the bases - good video thanks. I got most of them right.
thank you !!
You're welcome!
While I've never taken the time to listen to the differences before, watching this its obvious to tell them apart on some songs, but other songs its not, particularly those played in lower registers.
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There's a thunderstorm outside right now and eerily just when you started playing Riders on the Storm (07:35) there was thunder joining in..
Roland sometimes call them 1976SuitCase and Wurly 200.
too funny im in no california and we never get t storms but. predicted TOMORROW
INTO THIS WORLD WERE THROWN....
When I was young I found that sometimes I like the sound of EP more than other times. Eventually I worked out that I like Wurlis and don't particularly care for Rhodes.
I got every example right in the test.
Both classics in their own right!
grreat job
Before this vidéo i've didnt hear anything about the Wurli. Now i Can Say, "Nice job on the Wurli" instead of the Rhodes.
Thanks you for this vidéo. Very clear and cool and instructive 👍🏽😁
Ayy, thanks!
Ima be honest I have never heard of a Wurli and I could definitely tell the difference between their sounds it’s like day and night.
Well done, thanks! I've wondered about this. I think the samples also confirm to me that Wurlitzer has something about its timbre that, if it had to be described as abstractly as synth sounds are, it could be described as 'plastic'. A plastic electric piano, while Rhodes falls more under 'bells/mallets' as a sub tag to describe the timbre or what you recognise in the tone.
Good descriptors!
Wurli, I think "woody"
@@uberbeast113 Oh yeah that will do!
As a kid during the 70s I first heard Rhodes through the Charlie Brown animated specials and Taxi theme. Late 70s I heard Goodbye stranger and Logical Sog from Supertramp. I love the sounds of both these two keyboards. To my ears, the Wurli sounds a tad fuller & brighter, whereas the Rhodes has a tighter shorter attack. Of course both have their own vibrato & choreus effects. Love exploring the famous songs that use both pianos
2:48....Richard Tee of course, with MB on sax....epic!
With the rhodes, you can hear the pluck of the tines in the attack, even when you play softly. The wurli always sounds quite chorussy & overdriven, which couls be sue to how they've tended to be recorded during the 70s. Both are beautiful instruments.
Great video, also wanted to let you know that you were great as Hodgins on Bones.
Just recently I kinda got the idea of how to tell them apart but was still lost in how to define them in words 😂 tnx for the vid
I've been trying to figure out how to translate a piano score for a musical I'm playing (that asks for both these instruments) to be played on my humble little Yamaha keyboard that only has like 14 pre-built patches (3 for e. piano sounds). This video was very helpful. As soon as you explained it as tines vs. reeds I was able to easily hear the difference. I've still got a lot to learn on piano compared to my primary instrument but this is definitely gonna help me get the sounds I need. Now I just need to figure out what the score wants when it says "RMI". I think it's shorthand for Rocky Mountain Instruments but who knows? lol
I love the versatality of the Rhodes, you can easyliy add some grit by adding saturation with the amp or any guitar effect. The sweet-spot where dynamic playing leads to break-up is pure gold.
amazing. thank you =) that was funny
Once you put a little bit of drive in the signal chain, it's harder to tell them apart.
I love both
I got every one right, but then I've been working with both for over 40 years. :)
I describe them as "tinkle" versus "boing."
The Rhodes has a very distinctive bell-like quality, particularly in the upper registers, whereas the Wurli is rather more muted, but has that distinctive bottom-end growly springy sound notably heard on a lot of Supertramp. They both have their roles, but personally I would call a Wurlitzer 200a every time.
I don’t generally have any trouble telling them apart, Rhodes: bell-like, Wurlitzer: barky, growly. But I play a Hohner Pianet T (Not the more well-known “N”), and THAT can really confound people, haha.
Great video. Both are keyboard legends 🎹
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@@HDpiano Thanks 😊
Thanks for making this.. I never knew there was such a difference, and have always generically called both sounds "rhodes".. I could tell the difference though, especially in the higher tones..
words that came to mind for me -
Wurlitzer - spanky
Rhodes - chimey
nice video!! can u teach us about effects used for wurli and rhodes? thanks
A bit of phaser and tremolo always goes down well with a Wurli. Chorus warms Rhodes up a treat. Reverb is always great with both.
And....oh man....check out the studio version of The Noonward Race from Inner Mounting Flame album by Mahavishnu Orchestra, to hear what a ring modulator does for electric piano. That's Czech keyboard player Jan Hammer on keys, he whacks on the ring mod half way through his solo.
Thanks Devin! Got the first comparison wrong!!! Dang it! I thought I would do well, NOT. Lol but love both of them. Is there a portable affordable keyboard out there that mimic both fairly well? thank you. Cheers from Motown!
With the Hammond in the background, you have the Holy Trinity right there.
Very good video. You're Handy 👍
I hope ur not to disappointed if people get it mixed up.
Honestly knowing one or the other gets you respect.
I have a really hard time differentiating them in the lower registers, but it's very clear when playing higher notes :D
Excellence, thank you! Now how in the hell do I figure out what piano to use on my Juno DS for Locomotive Breath???? Like 150 pianos and none of them sound right ,lol.
Rhodes sounds like raindrops, wurli is like piano with overdrive
To me, the Rhodes sounds more like a set of bells or, with some trem, a vibraphone. The Wurli, meanwhile, sounds simply like a piano run through an amp.
However folks separate them in their minds, this was a great video.
Great video, thanks for posting!
I always considered the sound of a Fender Rhodes as being “chimey”, sorta bell-like, whereas the Wurli is “beefier,” and…hmmm…I’m not sure that “edgier” is the best description for a Wurli, as I’ve heard both the Rhodes and the Wurli sound edgy when played through an amp, or driving a preamp harder…
but to me, the Wurli sorta has more “weight” to it?
It’s tough to describe.
I don’t prefer one over the other, I love both, it depends on the context in which they’re used.
Each has its place…I wouldn’t want to hear Supertramp’s “Bloody Well Right” or Ray Charles’ “What’d I Say” played on a Rhodes any more than I’d want to hear 10cc’s “I’m Not In Love” or George Benson’s version of “This Masquerade” played on a Wurli…
I do know one thing for certain: I’d be perfectly happy to never have to hear the Yamaha DX7 “Rhodes” patch ever again! 😂
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That mountain stream looks so much like near where I live, but I can't place it. Wondering what the crane over the ridge is for, also. I'm thinking maybe a dam repair. The fencing on the left side seems weird, also.
it probably really depends on the settings but it sounds like the rhodes has a more softer/hollow sound while the whirly feels slightly more overdriven
I got 'em all right! :)
Thanks for the demonstration. One question: what are we hearing here? The sound of the Wurly is from the internal speakers? What about the Rhodes? I can see a speaker cabinet below it... could you please shed some light on the actual sound capture for the video? Thank you very much!
I always thought the intro of Beck - Where it's at was a stolen sample, but when I tried to find out where he stole it it turned out to be his composition. Really cool! Does anyone know if it was Beck himself or someone in the band or studio that came up with it? I recently bought a midi keyboard for my studio and that was the first riff I tried to learn. Maybe its not for beginners...
Nice video, I'm a Wurli guy !
4:45 is what song am listening to when i’m trying to sleep
Does anyone know where to get great Rhodes or Wurli VSTs?? Weird spot to ask but it’s worth a shot
This is most definitely an awesome video comparing renowned classic vintage electric pianos. In today’s practicality, most musicians use portable keyboards to replicate the sound of the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer Wurli Bird. In your professional estimation, what are the top three keyboards (make and model) and keyboard amps (make and model) that come closest to replicating the original sound of the Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer Wurli Bird? Thank you in advance for your response.
Yo that intro was classic 😂😂😂
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Wow. Those are fucking cool!
To me, the Rhodes sounds closer to a vibraphone and the Wurli sounds closer to an organ.
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Yup
Agreed.
dang! I own a rhodes and want to use it eventually for music therapy… weird how things just kinda work themselves out :)
I learned in the Rhodes in my high school jazz band, and have a certain affinity for it. However, there is just so much wonderful music out there involving both.
I ended up getting three wrong, twice I identified the Rhides as a Wurli, and one a Wurli as a Rhides. Supergramp's riff I knew because I don't think I ever heard them use a Rhodes. Even more so, that was why I was looking up the difference between the two.
Thank you for going into a little of the technical aspects. I've taken the cover off the Rhodes many times and knew how it produced sound, but nit as familiar with the Wurli.
Now, I'm going to have to go search down the songs you plated and put them on a Playlist. MAN, all good music!
Okay, so I took your advice and listened to the Paul Simon song, and I really like it. But my issue is-WHAT LIVE VERSION? The Central Park show just didn’t hit the same to me, is it something else?
easy to know once you've got experience with both. never played the real items, but have had experience with good rhodes and wurli patches on my Roland.
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Wurli, Rhodes, Hammond, etc. I still find it hard to tell them apart. I also have a problem with EP tones presets on my keyboards (Casio CDP-S350). For obvious reasons, they're just named "EP1", "EP2" etc.
I wish someone made a chart with which tone is supposed to be which instrument!
Hammond doesn't belong because it's an organ. Think: Beck's "Where It's At" is a Wurlitzer 200a, and Bob James' "Angela" (the theme from Taxi) is the Rhodes.
I was hoping for an example of ”See the sky about to rain” by Neil Young
Dad brought home 2 of the three instruments we see in this video.
Wurli =Tangy, Woody.
Rhodes= Bell like.
With effects either can mess with your mind and confuse you. Both give beautiful sounds.