Well, it also has to do with "population." The F-15 and F-16 have a much wider and robust inventory. The government hard cut the F-22 inventory with no intentions of rebooting that back up.
@steeljawX the F-22 is limited in its capabilities though. Pure air superiority. The 15 and 16 are more multi role aircraft, with the 15 E and EX being a true multi role fighter
@@brandonhill2183 It is capable of doing air to ground missions and has been used to drop bombs on the enemy in Syria but I do agree that it isn't made for that. Unlike the F15 and F16 who can do pretty much everything
They did a contest ... 4 or 5 F-15s vs a single F-22. Stealth is the unfair advantage. They described it as the F-22 "killing baby seals" as it killed all of the F-15s without even being seen. 🦭
you forget, that the F-15 was and still is able to lock onto, and fire at enemy fighters before they appear on an enemy fighter's radar. so half the time. the ones that see the F-15 on radar are already fighting for their lives trying not to get shot down
The F-22 might be absolutely terrifying because it’s virtually invisible But the F-15 is terrifying because it’s basically a flying Mike Tyson, it will beat the soul out of you and come back for more without even breaking a sweat. It’s like Superman if he was actually made out of steel
DAMN RIGHT NOTHING WILL STOP THE US AIR FORCE!! THE US AIR FORCE PUTS WARHEADS ON FOREHEADS!! DROPS MARINES LIKE VACCINES! HIGH VELOCITY UNHEALTHCARE!! DONT FUCK WITH AMERICA’S BOATS!
As a prior F-15 armament tech, it does my heart good to see people know the majesty of the jet I bled for. I hated working on it, but I have the utmost respect and pride in having done so.
@@michaelwestmoreland2530 Engineers don’t make things easy for maintainers. “Why is this part arranged like this?” “Who thought putting this HERE was a good idea?” And the fact that these birds are flown like they’re brand new when they’re many times over their lifetime flight hours and twice the average age of the guy maintaining them. And what we have to use to maintain them are also outdated equipment made exclusively by the Saudis so it costs 500,000 per box, but is also from the 80’s and involves MANY wires and a ton of time just for testing. Don’t get me wrong, the F-15’s can do some SCARY things, but a couple times we had accidents where we broke something that just isn’t made anymore, so we had to custom order a new one that took 3 weeks to make and arrive and the jet was down the whole time because it understandably can’t fly without a major panel.
@jesusofbullets Yeah. Jesus. That's....having worked in HVAC for 13 years, I do absolutely understand "Did the engineers have a personal problem with ME?"
XD The Foxbat XD USSR: the Foxbat is a superior fighter craft USA: well shit... F-15, introduce yourself USSR: What the hell is that?! i ment it's faster aircraft... it's not a fighter, tis intercepter... not turn so well.. USA: oh... well.... guess you should have said that the first time. now let me show you what the F-15 can do USSR: oh crap... we've made a mistake....but your F-15 is still slower, there for the MiG-25 is better.
I swear this is true for at least half of the gear in US inventories. Russians talk up their gear we believe them and create something to pound the snot out of it only to find out the enemy capabilities were greatly overstated.
@@Randoman USSR: i said the Foxbat is.....where is the child to whom i was speaking to? i cannot find him on radar. Ah, he must have flown away after seeing True Russian power.
The F15C/D have an 8,000 hr service limit. The C/D have been houring out at a rapid pace for years now. The F15E Strke Eagle have a 10,000 hour service limit, they have started being removed from service now as they hour out. The F15EX Eagle II and F35A are replacing them rapidly. The F15EX much like the Super Hornet is really a new airplane designed to utilize existing infrastructure to build. The F15EX has a 20,000 hour service limit, carries more ordinance and will be cheaper to operate than the F35. In none contested air space it only makes sense. Especially since the F22 is aging much faster than anticipated and the F35 production is lagging the retirement curve of the F15 fleet. The G6 Fighter needs to get here fast as we may find ourselves without a G5 air superiority fighter if it doesn't.
@@gk5891 This is an excellent point, and one that I think a lot of people miss. The F-15 airframe (with upgrades) will likely continue to stay in service for decades to come while the various models of current F-15s in service get retired out as they pass their service lives. I think a lot of people have a hard time drawing a distinction between an actual individual airframe and the airframe/model as a whole. What made the F-22 so expensive in hindsight wasn't the actual cost, but the fact that Congress pulled the funding and the production chain for it was cannibalized for the F-35 project. Likewise, what makes the F-15 so cheap (comparatively) is the fact that the supply and production chains for it are still in existence, which means that changes can be made to them much more easily than having to rebuild them from scratch (as would need to be done for the F-22). I wouldn't be surprised if we see further versions of the F-15 past the EX drawn up in the next decade or so that adds increasingly advanced features to it.
One thing you got to remember about all of these fighters. They are data linked. They can send 1 F-22 up with 3 fully Air to Air armed F-15s and shoot their missiles Beyond visual range.
It was an Israeli F-15 that landed w/ one wing. The pilot said, because of all the fuel spewing out, he couldn't tell the wing was missing and that he would've ejected if he had known. It went into a downward spiral but he hit the power and got it to level out and was near his airbase so just landed the thing lol.
The F-15C's are getting quite old and worn out and as such are being slowly phased out, however the USAF has issued a contract to the manufacturer to build at least 104 brand new F-15EX's to replace them.
Said MFC being Boeing Aerospace in St. Louis,formerly McDonell Douglas, which designed and built the F15 and now as you said, the EX Stealth, along with the Super Hornet for the USN.
Lol, sometimes the best thing about a Brit is them taking the piss out of us, love the fact that you linked to the video you were reacting to, And I'm sure the fat electrician was all about it when you were linking to his stuff.
@@Cr0wdse3ker ^Bunyan. It was named after the figure from American mythos, who was a giant lumberjack. You know somebody was having a laugh naming an operation where they chopped down a tree (that was blocking line of sight with a guard station in the DMZ) after a mythical lumberjack.
I remember the first time I saw an f-18. I don't know why but I imagined it so much smaller. Little 12 year old me was in awe during my air cadet camp. We were a couple hundred feet from the runway. They used to take off and go inverted over our parade ground. Feeling your insides rumble when they punched the throttle was awesome!
@@rundownaxe yup! And that jet that looked so big to you is still 20,000 lbs lighter than a fully loaded Eagle. It’s one of the main reasons the Sea Eagle project never took off. Just not enough room on the decks to make it worth it.
Throughout the years I’ve seen the F22, F16, F35 at the Fort Worth air show and nothing comes close at the unreal experience of the F15 doing insane maneuvers in the air. The thing is an absolute Visceral BOSS!!!
The EX has so many hard points it qualifies as a missile truck. They could be used in conjunction with F-35's, where the F-35 picks the targets, and the EX kills them.
The satellite kill was a multi-stage ASM-135 missile, developed by LTV Aerospace. The Satellite orbited about 320 miles above sea level. The Satellite's name was Solwind P78-1.
MCD made a lot of great aircraft...Phantoms, Eagles, Apaches, Globemaster IIIs, Harrier IIs, Skyhawks, Hornets, Super Hornets, Extenders, not to mention Harpoons, Tomahawks, and the Skylab space station
F-15 is still a major part of the US AF. “Replaced by F-22” means it has been supplanted as the most dangerous air to air fighter jet. It is still widely in use by both US and many other nations around the world.
in fact that's where the F-15EX comes into play. it fields some ' upgrades ' the countries that still use it wanted us to put on it. ( kind of a multi-national project at this point )
There are, currently, 149 F-15C Eagles, 219 F-15E Strike Eagles, and 2 F-15EX Super Eagles active in the U.S.A.F.'s arsenal. The average sevice life is over 30 years, and many have received updated engines. Beyond the U.S.A.F.s contingent I couldn't tell you how many are still flying, but I would guess "a lot".
Yes, as the Eagle flies for many nations air forces. Trivia…the Eagles first kill was achieved w the Israeli Air Force, against a MiG 25 I think flown by Syria or Egypt in the 70s.
@@jimreilly917 70s then likely Egyptian, maybe Palestinian as the 70s was when the 7 day war between Israel and Egypt happened, in which the then Palestine decided to join in and help the Egyptians only to then lose... everything
I've watched a few reactions to the F15 video and you're the first person I've seen react so much to "we don't make sense, we're bane dollars" and I love that it hit you like that. That is by far the most American thing I've ever heard and also by far my favorite part of the original video.
6:34 they also have different mission sets. The F-22 &F-35 is meant to be practically invisible & kill stuff while the F-15 is meant to be very visible while killing stuff
I was out in Death Valley National park camping for a week in Saline Valley. You can watch these guys practice in the sky doing their dog fight maneuvers. so saline valley is a clothing optional hot spring area and one of these pilots does a low fly by upside down and is waving at the girls. Very impressive! and I would like to thank that pilot for getting all the naked girls to jump and down waving at him.
F-22 is meant to replace the F-15C as air superiority. F-15E will be around for some time as it is more multi-role. About the shooting of a satellite, look up the ASM-135A ASAT missile. The F-15C was designated as only aircraft that could fire the missile due to its ability to gain speed as it went vertical since the only thing to slow it down was lack of oxygen for the engines.
F-22 was "meant" but short sightedness by the Govt led it to never be used in combat, so far its got 1 weather balloon to its credit. The NGAD will be the next Best Fighter whenever it comes out.
@AlbertoMartinez765 The government will still force the issue since there are very few generals with the balls to stand up and point out the forest for the trees.
@@AlbertoMartinez765 It hasn't been used is actually false. It has flow combat missions just hasn't fired its weapons outside the balloon. The "you should go home now" story is a great example.
I've seen multiple other channels react to FE and everyone who has interacted with him all say he's genuinely an awesome guy. He's popped into Mr Terry's livestream amd sent him merch.
If you are still in the UK, go to the RAF Lakenheath and watch the F-15 E and C's fly. That F-15 flying in that canyon was in England and the British planes do terrain avoidance there as well to the Plane spotter's delight.
Sadly as of a few years back, Lakenheath only has E models. But they do have F35s now, which are just as cool. Mother fuckers shake the fucking earth when they take off.
Well...to be specific, never shot down in air combat is not the same as never ever shot down. A significant number of F-15s have been shot down, just never in air to air combat...those SAMs can be a real bitch. 😁
Posted this on Nick's video cause it had more crazy F-15 facts, including two pop culture facts I missed including. Alright, I found an old book on fighter jets to help add to this legend of a plane. You called it a rocket. NAH! It BEAT a rocket. It would actually set a world record in time-to-height and beat the Apollo moonshot at certain heights. It also set records for crossing the country as well. And let's not forget the big one: the F-15 was pretty much made due to translation error and luck. The Soviets had created the much overrated MiG-25 Foxbat, a interceptor capable of very high speeds of Mach 3 (which basically became a resource/money dump cause the Reds made it to counter a bomber we never even put into full production). The US got word of this new Mach 3 capable fighter and basically went "Oh shit, we need to beat this." Now, did you catch the mistake? If you did, you did better then US intel did. A translation error got the Foxbat labeled a FIGHTER instead of an INTERCEPTOR, which is important as one means a combat aircraft that is ment to stay and play if need be against all types of aircraft, the other is ment to go as fast as possible to intercept enemy bombers (typically) so being maneuverable isn't a need compared to top speed. So, the F-15 would be needed but SAC would've been an issue as well due to it usually being run by bomber generals...... cept that time the fighter jockeys got command of SAC and gleefully greenlit the program. Thus, the beautiful monster that is the Eagle came to be the king of the sky we know and love. Side note: ever notice the F-22 looks alot like an Eagle but made for stealth? Kinda the point, if it ain't broke, just make it a better plane anyway cause fuck fighting fair. One more fact is the F-15 is current the best fighter aircraft PERIOD due to both it's standing flawless kill ration of 104:0 and it's held that record for 50+ YEARS,. Yes, technically some planes have more kills but they importantly have losses as well so the Eagle reigns at the top as of now as none have been lost to enemy aircraft. As for pop culture, in the 80s Transformer cartoon, the F-15 was Starscream's vehicle mode cause the air commander insisted on assuming the form of the best combat aircraft he could, so he picked the Eagle then and the Raptor later in the Bay era. Finally, the F-15 would be the cover plane for Ace Combat Zero where your AI wingman, Pixy, has the same accident as the Israeli pilot and he paints his wing red as homage to his accident, even gaining the nickname 'Solo-wing Pixy.'
I’m not a pilot, and never been in the military. But I’ve seen on of these at an air show. When it was discussing creating enough thrust to overcome lift, drag, etc…we saw a demonstration of that. It came in low and turned vertical right above the crowd. It can actually accelerate while going vertical. So it disappeared like rocket. It’s insane. Only thing more impressive was watching a Harrier come by at 400mph or something around there, and the next time it comes by it stops midair. Spins around in a 360° circle, and then starts backing up in the air.
The F-15 is still in ACTIVE PRODUCTION with the US Air Force still buying them, including the brand new Eagle II variant which is replacing the older ones that have more flight hours on their airframe than the pilots have in total flight time. This is a 50 year old aircraft that is still DOMINANT. Also as an American, the whole "we don't make sense we make dollars", that line is true AF, no offense taken, I see it as a point of pride.
F-15: I'm not stuck out here with you. You're stuck out here with me. Seriously, I lived near a lockheed base becausemy dad and I both worked there assembling jets like these. Hated working on F-35's but anytime an F-16 and rare cases, an F-15, I was delighted to see it and would often go pester the pilot about it who usually were more than happy to sit with me and my dad for dinner at a local BBQ place after work. I was always too scared to fly in one when given the chance because I had just been disgnosed with epilepsy during that time and wasn't sure if I was healthy enough, but man, seeing those things take off and even fly during air shows was such an amazing experience.
That F-15 that lost its wing still had a small portion of the wing left but it still could fly. What looks blurry, that is the fuel coming out of the tank.
"104 and 0, look out below!" Fucking love this jet, especially since every time I look at military news, it's usually this thing that seems to keep getting upgrades XD
Very true. But remember, the lesson of the air war in Vietnam. Once the ROE changes the stealth advantages of the F22 will be neutralized. At that point the F15 will once again become the more effective combat weapon.
@@thomasking5472 ...no The F-22 is faster and way more maneuverable. There was training with 1 F-22 vs multiple F-15s at close range on their radar, guess who still won.....F-15 effective combat weapon...because it can carry more armaments allowing it to have a wider range of missions, which does nothing when its out matched in the sky.
You should watch his videos all the way to the end cuz he does outros in the last 10-20 seconds after he flashes his logo. You’re missing out on some of the best content of his videos.
My Dad Was a Fighter Pilot who flew the F-15E in Several Squadrons across America and in foreign countries. 29 years in the United States Air Force Proud of my dad and everyone who serves our country!
A F-15 demo team preformed at my local airshow last year. Still hands down one of the most impressive and awe inspiring performance and I put that over the F22 flight in the same show!
This is a demo video of the F-22 Raptor at Huntington Beach, CA. I was a AIC (Air Intercept Controller in the Navy for 14 years, I never had control of one of these aircraft...just F-4's and F-14's. The most impressive thing for me about the F-22 is the turning circle. It can change course on a dime. That is mind boggling. I would hate to be an enemy fighter trying to chase one down from behind. It is also fast and quick, An absolutely amazing aircraft.
That plane that lost a wing was flown by an Israeli pilot who activated his afterburner and stopped the plane from spinning. No one realized a whole wing was gone till it landed, and not even Mcdonald Douglas, who built it, knew how it continued to fly until they sent a team to review all the data
I live near a base where they routinely do test flights with these jets, I can't explain how loud these planes are. They literally shake your house as they fly overhead. If you're listening to anything, you have to pause it until they're gone, even with headphones on, you can't hear a single thing.
Just a tip for watching The Fat Electrician, watch through his credits, he usually has something funny to say at the end. Other than that love the videos! Keep it up!
Nic's a pretty chill dude from everything I've seen/heard, if you reach out to him I highly suspect he'd have no problem doing a Collab or letting you react to everything he put out
The F15 is a beast in combat, in a H2H between F22 & F15 it'd be a toss up the pilots make the difference. The Generation 5 we now are just the tip of the iceberg Generation 6 is now in testing & production phase while Generation 7 is on the development whiteboard and Generation 8 is being concepted.
It would be awesome to see a Collab with you and the Fed electrician between your enthusiasm for the US military and his unseemly never-ending knowledge make for a great duo. Thank you for reacting to this. Looking forward to to more! 🤙
The F15 is the hall of fame fighter who never lost a fight, the F22 is his protege who is better in nearly every way and everyone is afraid of him. The F35 is the f22 but instead of training under the F15 religiously since birth, it trained until it finished high school and then went to college and got its PH.D The F22 is the most deadly man made flying object in history, and the F35 is the F22 at 85-90% strength but also insanely smart. The F22 is so stealthy that the size of its radar cross section is somewhere between a bumblebee and a mayfly, while the F35's radar cross section is about the size of a hummingbird. A little bigger than the F22. The F22 is faster, more nimble, and overall deadlier in a 1v1, but the F35 is still absolutely an apex predator, and the F15 is a speed demon with missiles attached to it. *Edit, I've just learned that the new F-15EX "Eagle Two" is (among other upgrades) getting a massive boost to horsepower with new engines producing 11,000lbs MORE thrust, meaning it's literally getting supercharged and more technical upgrades like sensors and electronic warfare capabilities. If I'm understanding the numbers correctly its a nearly 60% additional boost to its thrust capability.
Fun fact, an F15-E that ran out of ordinance from a bombing run dove at the ground and pulled up at the last second to produce a sonic boom and scare away the enemy that had the American troops ambushed on the ground. I believe there is a video about it here on UA-cam. It saved the lives of all the boots on the ground that day. The Enemy ran for their lives thinking it was bombs being dropped, It literally is the Bully of the skies. lol
Nah man he genuinely is fine with people reacting. I mean, Kip is a gamer that's never been in the military, and he's reacted to all of TFE's long-form videos.
I remember the first time i saw F15s take off vertical like that and the sonic boom they made flying by beyond the sound barrier. Dad used to take me to the air show every few years. It was always impressive no matter how many times i experienced it.
The thing about The Fat Electrician is that he is to Military and Military history as Casual Geographics is to Wildlife Biology and Wildlife Biology History. He's just going to give it to you as it is and it's your job to try to keep a straight face about how he's telling you the details. Also, what are you on about? "I haven't reacted to the F-15." That's the thing the US made in panic response to the Soviet Foxbat and it turns out that the US just reinvented aerial warfare due to that and made it the rest of the world's problem. The thing really differentiating the F-15, F-16, and F-18 from the F-22 and F-35 is stealth and combat intent. So the Teen series of fighters had to be fast. That was their anti-missile defense. However around the time of the F-18, engineers and the military realized something kind of important that ended up slowing down (as in physically, not the development time) of the F-22 and F-35. Most aerial combat doesn't happen at mach 2. It is usually sub sonic because sonic and super sonic flight is just asking for things to get ripped off. Then the F-22 and F-35 have stealth built into them. So instead of having to outrun a missile, the onus is put on the missile to find the 22 and 35 first. So the requirement to move at sonic and super sonic speed became less of a requirement as stealth became the focal defense and also there's little reason for an air superiority fighter to "efficiently" cruise at above mach speed because dogfights, should it come to that, don't happen at above mach speed.
I love the F-15 Strike Eagle. (I have 2 brothers that were Air Force) However, due to personal experience as a US Army grunt, the Warthog has my heart and soul.
it can see it, it just can't target it. you can "see" stealth aircraft on radar, but gaining a weapons grade lock is damn near impossible until they're within like 20 miles. far far outside the range of the 100 mile AMRAAM d models. @@ripstake
That wasnt just vs F-15s it was F-15s and other unnamed aircraft. Usually when F-15s score a kill on F-22 it is in a 1v4+ and or the F-22 has to dogfight with multiple aircraft, or the F-22 has its radar disabled or is put in an ambushed scenario.
Had an F16 fly over me when I was returning from lunch at work. 😂😂😂😂😂 it was headed to the Indy 500 to my knowledge. It happened so fast and loud and earth shaking. I was thinking mere mortals can completely forget about ……..everything.
In 1995 a gangster rapper named DJ Quik released an album called "Safe and Sound". One of the singles from the album was called "If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense". I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't where he got the idea for his fantastic quip he used.
I work for the air force and the F-15 is what most pilots coming into the air force want to fly. They are quick and very deadly to hostel aircraft. It is without a question , My favorite jet. P.S. Love your channel and your videos.
I think the 1990's comedy movie Hot Shots! had a scene in it where the pilot with the nearsightedness reported to flight control that it has lost both wings but there was no problem to report, and then like 15 minutes later after the battle in the movie was over and everyone's on the flight deck that dude in the wingless F-15 just bellyflop lands the craft onto the deck.
I was Security Forces for an F-15 base with an active mission. This is one bad ass plane. We had the oldest F-15s in the Air Force inventory, but they were the best maintained. Southern Oregon holds the F-15 flight school. They started pairing F-15s with the F-22. The entire nose of the F-15 is a radar, its job is to take out enemy air craft before the enemy even knows the F-15 is there. The reasoning for pairing the F-15 with the F-22 is so that the F-15 can mark for the F-22 while the F-22 is able to use its stealth capability in conjunction with the F-15s radar. This gives them more battlefield knowledge when there is no AWAX available. The F-15 can also fly in the stratosphere and shoot down satellites with proper armament. The clip where the F-15 takes off and breaks the sound barrier, thats my base. They only do this during an alert take off, which means something is violating air space and/or is a threat. Its amazing to watch. Never gets old, especially at night when you get to see the afterburner cookin!
The Percy Hobart video is a really good one too. Without him the Western Front in Europe would never have happened, and North Africa would have been lost. No joke.
Prior service Eagle Keeper here. And it's a dream to maintain as well. On average it takes 2.5 - 3 hours for 3 crew chiefs to change an engine, modular avionics and other time saving tech. When compared to the F-4 where it takes 5 guys 8 hours to remove and engine, well, you get the picture.
I know I am late, but we still use the F-15 a lot. It lives on in different variations and I think we still use the regular one as well. Though the different ones are the F-15 Silent Eagle stealth variant. There is the F-15 Strike Eagle variant allowing it to carry more weapons. Just recently the F-15 X or EX or something, came out. There may be more but that’s all I remember.
Yeah, while the C variant is still active, it stopped being built decades ago, and all production lines in the world for it have been shut down and fully decommissioned. So, if you want a new F-15 of any variety, you have to go with the E variant as the base, and that is what happened with the EX. Now, I personally don't know if this is indeed the case, but I suspect that is why that variant's designation starts with an E, even though despite have the setup of a two-seater, it is flown only with the pilot and no back-seater (it can still have an operating back-seater, but it rarely, if ever, happens).
It’s the power to weight ration due to the size of the aircraft and the power the engines produce = 1/1. Giving the F-15 eagle not just speed but maneuverability in dog fights. Thus making the F-15 a very big threat in air to air combat. Coupled with look down shoot down radar, this fighter can also cover beyond visual range engagements as well. It’s the best of what the Us has fielded and proven in combat.
I served for 12 years in Norway’s Jaegerkommandoen KostalMarinen. I experienced horror serving during the Serbian conflict and was wounded there in 1992. I haven’t much to say about that not because there isn’t much to say but because there is too much to say that cannot bear. It is nobody’s business anyway. But what I will say is that every time we did night jump during training near Tromso at minus -30 degrees F or less, I nearly sh*t in my boots every time. With anything ocean or water I am fine but up in the air? No. I held it together but inside I cried like a poopy diaper baby every time. I love your channel and seeing this amazing jet is well, amazing.
You being a brother across da pond, I think your half right. You do it right... his link down below... gave a tutorial... giving credit counts. And you, some how, actually give commentary! Brilliant!
There's something special about the Air Force. They make a new thing for everything they want. You want ground support? You get the Warthog and the Spectre. You want screaming fast air dominance? You get the Eagle and Aardvark. You want insane stealth? We have seven to twelve that you may pick from(they also occupy most places on the top speed list).
There are A LOT of F-15s still in service. It’s so gangster that they decided to build a newer version of it. The F-15EX. Coming soon to a theatre near you.
5:30 That's the whole reason for the newer version of the F-15 it will work with F-35's as a workhorse carrying large loads of ammunition while the F-35 directs the combat and targeting. So yeah the F-15 isn't being replaced completely for a while.
I'm glad you said "as a citizen, you are kinda allowed to laugh at yourself." More than that, you are allowed to laugh at others. You have a wonderful freedom of speech! I wanted dual citizenship, but European laws are so strict!
Neat thing on the F-15 that lost the wing and kept flying, if I remember right, is that the body of the plane generates slightly more lift than the wings combined due to the design. So losing the one wing didn't put it in a horribly unstable center of lift to center of mass offset that would result in it rapidly/instantly slipping into a unrecoverable spin. This combined with the very large control surfaces and it's speed and thrust allowed it to counter act the offset forces that did come into effect when it lost it's wing enough that... well it kept flying and landed lol. If it wasn't for these three factors, the high lift amount of the body, large control surfaces, and speed/thrust it couldn't of done what it did.
22 is the solution to a problem that never existed. It's air to air combat capabilities are insane. But the Eagle has so much versatility it's full range of mission capabilities couldn't possibly be replaced by a stealth fighter so both are still used to carry out a wide range of needs.
By replace, they mean that the primary mission duties and capabilities of the F-15 are being incorporated into the mission and capabilities of the 22. The 22 is going to be used the way the 15 was used in the past.
The f15 will continue to be in use because it’s still pretty advanced and you don’t need the maximum technologically superiority of something like f35 if you already have total air superiority. If there’s no threats might as well use something cheaper than f35 that can carry more. Additionally, it’s important to note the us airforce is literally generations ahead of everyone else. We’ve already built a 5th gen fighter (f22), cut its production because it was so overkill it was unnecessary, waited a decade, and restarted with a new 5th gen fighter (f35) and built 1000 of them. The only country that might be close is China, who might have 5th gen as well but it’s hard to know if it’s actually as advanced as they claim or largely propaganda (or somewhere in between). The Russians technically have a couple but it’s like 12 and they don’t even seem to actually be 5th gen in performance. And the only other countries that are close are all just allies of the us that despite being close just bought f35 instead. Us upgraded 4th gen fighters will often still be a generation ahead of anything the us military needs to engage, so after some quick runs from f35 to destroy stuff like air defenses and other advanced fighters 4th gen fighters like f15 ex would be able to do a lot of the stuff because it’ll become a relatively low threat environment.
5:15 is the king of the sky. It is never been defeated and air to air combat it has put down over 100 enemy jets. And they just came out with the f-15ex. Upgraded technology. It is bad to the bone. 🇺🇸😁💪✌️
I saw a documentary on the F-15 that lost the wing. It cracked me up when it said the mfr rushed over a team to figure out how it was able to fly. The fuselage bottom had acted like a lifting body, and the 1+ thrust did the rest. I guess this qualifies as 'overdesigned.'
F-15 was designed by fighter pilots after Vietnam (late '60s) & developed to be a single role air superiority fighter (& was later modified into a 2-seater multi-role airframe, the F-15E). Came out in '71 & went AF wide in '72. Was the first jet to accelerate going straight up (as in it could touch its rear 2 wheels down on the runway, drop its speed brake, pull up, go full after burner, then accelerate like a rocket vertically). The Fat Electrician was slightly wrong w one of his comments: McDonald-Douglas engineers determined that the Israel F15 was able to continue to fly with additional thrust due to the flat surface of the jet & the large rear ailerons creating enough lift to keep it in controlled flight. The original F-15A models were replaced by the C's & most of those are near the end of their airframe lifespan. They plane has been modified over the past 3 decades for various countries like Japan, Saudi Arabia, S. Korea & others, leading to both improvements as well as an F-15S (Silent Eagle) that had stealth characteristics from the F-22 built in. The F-22 out performs the F-15 in every category performance wise, other than range & payload capacity (as well as being much more expensive per hour to fly). The new F-15 EX model will be a HUGE step up from the previous versions - faster, more fuel efficient, lighter, fly by wire = much more maneuverable, & have way more modern electronics. The new EX model will be able to go toe-to-toe with any 4th or 4.5 gen fighter on the planet while serving as a "missile mule" for planes like the F-22 & F-35. Nice video - Cheers!
I found the fat electrian lile 2 months ago, and i drive for a living.. so ive listened to just about every video he has out! This dude is HILARIOUS! And educational! I love it
A ground check engineer at MD St. Louis gave my son a picture take thru the vertical stabilizers of a inverted F-15, below the rim of the Grand Canyon at max 1.5.!!
The F-22 has stealth capabilities that is unmatched however the F-15 and F-16 are the workhorses of the U.S Air Force.
Well, it also has to do with "population." The F-15 and F-16 have a much wider and robust inventory. The government hard cut the F-22 inventory with no intentions of rebooting that back up.
@steeljawX the F-22 is limited in its capabilities though. Pure air superiority. The 15 and 16 are more multi role aircraft, with the 15 E and EX being a true multi role fighter
@@brandonhill2183 It is capable of doing air to ground missions and has been used to drop bombs on the enemy in Syria but I do agree that it isn't made for that. Unlike the F15 and F16 who can do pretty much everything
@Peter_Aranyos_Jr correct, it's design and purpose is not strike or CAS.
They did a contest ... 4 or 5 F-15s vs a single F-22. Stealth is the unfair advantage. They described it as the F-22 "killing baby seals" as it killed all of the F-15s without even being seen. 🦭
F the people who are offended, "we don't make sense we make dollars". That is a brilliant line.
It's also *peak* America.
Did everyone miss the “dictate” joke within the same joke?
It is pure Merica
'Murcans can own who we are. We know it.
@@jasonknight1085 Sure do!
F-22 Raptor: You will never see me coming, or going.
F15 Eagle: HERE I FUCKING COME!
Yippie-ki-ay, motherfuckers!
PreeeeeeZactly.
You can’t see me and eat my shite.
Stealth? No.
Pure fucking freedom? *YES*
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F-22: You're dead before you knew I was there
F-15: Seeing me coming just means you get to look death in the eyes
The F-15 doesn’t need stealth….. it’d be like “I know you see me coming…. But it don’t matter…. I’m still gonna fuck you up”
Yup!!😂😂😂😂
Some Halloween bs
Yep. It makes the game fair. You see me coming, you have a chance to run away.
you forget, that the F-15 was and still is able to lock onto, and fire at enemy fighters before they appear on an enemy fighter's radar. so half the time. the ones that see the F-15 on radar are already fighting for their lives trying not to get shot down
@@Romza37the f15 radar sees all
I am American and I like the “we make dollars not sense” motto. Sounds like something we would say.
The F-22 might be absolutely terrifying because it’s virtually invisible
But the F-15 is terrifying because it’s basically a flying Mike Tyson, it will beat the soul out of you and come back for more without even breaking a sweat. It’s like Superman if he was actually made out of steel
One of the BEST descriptions of the Eagle ever written.🦅
DAMN RIGHT NOTHING WILL STOP THE US AIR FORCE!! THE US AIR FORCE PUTS WARHEADS ON FOREHEADS!! DROPS MARINES LIKE VACCINES! HIGH VELOCITY UNHEALTHCARE!!
DONT FUCK WITH AMERICA’S BOATS!
Remember, the F15 WANT to be seen
You had us at flying mike tyson lol
Got the biggest screen and instead of lurking in the dark, it baits you with his arrogance and get you with its charming superiority. 😂 @@sacresula
As a prior F-15 armament tech, it does my heart good to see people know the majesty of the jet I bled for. I hated working on it, but I have the utmost respect and pride in having done so.
Hated? Was it more difficult to work on than others?
@@michaelwestmoreland2530
Engineers don’t make things easy for maintainers.
“Why is this part arranged like this?”
“Who thought putting this HERE was a good idea?”
And the fact that these birds are flown like they’re brand new when they’re many times over their lifetime flight hours and twice the average age of the guy maintaining them. And what we have to use to maintain them are also outdated equipment made exclusively by the Saudis so it costs 500,000 per box, but is also from the 80’s and involves MANY wires and a ton of time just for testing.
Don’t get me wrong, the F-15’s can do some SCARY things, but a couple times we had accidents where we broke something that just isn’t made anymore, so we had to custom order a new one that took 3 weeks to make and arrive and the jet was down the whole time because it understandably can’t fly without a major panel.
@jesusofbullets Yeah. Jesus. That's....having worked in HVAC for 13 years, I do absolutely understand "Did the engineers have a personal problem with ME?"
@@michaelwestmoreland2530
My favorite quote one of my buddies said was “engineers would step over piles of virgins just to f**k one maintainer”, lmao.
@@michaelwestmoreland2530 Engineers just have to make it work the First time. They don't know jack about making it work every time after the first.
The F-15 is what you get when the enemy lies about their own fighter capabilities.
XD The Foxbat XD
USSR: the Foxbat is a superior fighter craft
USA: well shit... F-15, introduce yourself
USSR: What the hell is that?! i ment it's faster aircraft... it's not a fighter, tis intercepter... not turn so well..
USA: oh... well.... guess you should have said that the first time. now let me show you what the F-15 can do
USSR: oh crap... we've made a mistake....but your F-15 is still slower, there for the MiG-25 is better.
@@Romza37F22: What did you just say to my father!
I swear this is true for at least half of the gear in US inventories. Russians talk up their gear we believe them and create something to pound the snot out of it only to find out the enemy capabilities were greatly overstated.
@@Randoman
USSR: i said the Foxbat is.....where is the child to whom i was speaking to? i cannot find him on radar. Ah, he must have flown away after seeing True Russian power.
Perfect
F-15 hasn't been replaced. It will fly until 6th gen completely takes over more than likely
The F15C/D have an 8,000 hr service limit. The C/D have been houring out at a rapid pace for years now.
The F15E Strke Eagle have a 10,000 hour service limit, they have started being removed from service now as they hour out.
The F15EX Eagle II and F35A are replacing them rapidly. The F15EX much like the Super Hornet is really a new airplane designed to utilize existing infrastructure to build.
The F15EX has a 20,000 hour service limit, carries more ordinance and will be cheaper to operate than the F35. In none contested air space it only makes sense. Especially since the F22 is aging much faster than anticipated and the F35 production is lagging the retirement curve of the F15 fleet. The G6 Fighter needs to get here fast as we may find ourselves without a G5 air superiority fighter if it doesn't.
I’ve read articles that project the F15 in combat ops until 2030. Not sure how without building from the wheels up.
Enter the F-15EX Eagle ll
@@gk5891 This is an excellent point, and one that I think a lot of people miss. The F-15 airframe (with upgrades) will likely continue to stay in service for decades to come while the various models of current F-15s in service get retired out as they pass their service lives. I think a lot of people have a hard time drawing a distinction between an actual individual airframe and the airframe/model as a whole. What made the F-22 so expensive in hindsight wasn't the actual cost, but the fact that Congress pulled the funding and the production chain for it was cannibalized for the F-35 project. Likewise, what makes the F-15 so cheap (comparatively) is the fact that the supply and production chains for it are still in existence, which means that changes can be made to them much more easily than having to rebuild them from scratch (as would need to be done for the F-22). I wouldn't be surprised if we see further versions of the F-15 past the EX drawn up in the next decade or so that adds increasingly advanced features to it.
One thing you got to remember about all of these fighters. They are data linked. They can send 1 F-22 up with 3 fully Air to Air armed F-15s and shoot their missiles Beyond visual range.
It was an Israeli F-15 that landed w/ one wing. The pilot said, because of all the fuel spewing out, he couldn't tell the wing was missing and that he would've ejected if he had known. It went into a downward spiral but he hit the power and got it to level out and was near his airbase so just landed the thing lol.
Khazarion zionist
Khazarian*
and when he landed, his name went down in history as the only man to fly with a gansta lean
Might be one of the planes that Isreal used to strafe the life rafts of the USS Liberty. Greatest ally....
A USAF Eagle landed on one wing long before that.
The F-15C's are getting quite old and worn out and as such are being slowly phased out, however the USAF has issued a contract to the manufacturer to build at least 104 brand new F-15EX's to replace them.
Said MFC being Boeing Aerospace in St. Louis,formerly McDonell Douglas, which designed and built the F15 and now as you said, the EX Stealth, along with the Super Hornet for the USN.
The E models are still flying as well
*slaps on a coat of stealth paint*
This F-15C can haul amrams for years more.
Lol, sometimes the best thing about a Brit is them taking the piss out of us, love the fact that you linked to the video you were reacting to, And I'm sure the fat electrician was all about it when you were linking to his stuff.
My fave by the Fat Electrician is the story about how a tree almost caused WWIII. You need to watch that one.
Yep if I remember correctly it was Operation Paul Bunion
@@Cr0wdse3ker about a foot problem?
Don't know this story...
@@sassymess7111 Fat Electrician Operation Paul Bunyan. Search it, its good.
@@Cr0wdse3ker ^Bunyan. It was named after the figure from American mythos, who was a giant lumberjack. You know somebody was having a laugh naming an operation where they chopped down a tree (that was blocking line of sight with a guard station in the DMZ) after a mythical lumberjack.
I’m a mechanic on the F-15! You think it’s small until you’re next to one. Fully loaded with fuel and weapons, it weighs almost 70,000 pounds!
At Langley in the 90s we called it the flying tennis court, lol
I remember the first time I saw an f-18. I don't know why but I imagined it so much smaller. Little 12 year old me was in awe during my air cadet camp. We were a couple hundred feet from the runway. They used to take off and go inverted over our parade ground. Feeling your insides rumble when they punched the throttle was awesome!
@@rundownaxe yup! And that jet that looked so big to you is still 20,000 lbs lighter than a fully loaded Eagle. It’s one of the main reasons the Sea Eagle project never took off. Just not enough room on the decks to make it worth it.
I thought the same thing about the Apache attack helicopter till I had the opportunity to stand next to one, those things are huge!
Mabey so but horsepower to weight is a bit ridiculously awsome 😂
Throughout the years I’ve seen the F22, F16, F35 at the Fort Worth air show and nothing comes close at the unreal experience of the F15 doing insane maneuvers in the air. The thing is an absolute Visceral BOSS!!!
The new F-15EX is supposed to take over for the older E model since we only have a about 180 F-22 Raptors
it’s replacing old C models, not the E
The EX has so many hard points it qualifies as a missile truck. They could be used in conjunction with F-35's, where the F-35 picks the targets, and the EX kills them.
The satellite kill was a multi-stage ASM-135 missile, developed by LTV Aerospace. The Satellite orbited about 320 miles above sea level. The Satellite's name was Solwind P78-1.
McDonnell Douglas hit a home run with the F-15. It's an Amazing machine for a 1960s design.
MCD made a lot of great aircraft...Phantoms, Eagles, Apaches, Globemaster IIIs, Harrier IIs, Skyhawks, Hornets, Super Hornets, Extenders, not to mention Harpoons, Tomahawks, and the Skylab space station
"We don't make sense we make dollars" is legitimately the most American phrase I've ever heard
F-15 is still a major part of the US AF. “Replaced by F-22” means it has been supplanted as the most dangerous air to air fighter jet. It is still widely in use by both US and many other nations around the world.
in fact that's where the F-15EX comes into play. it fields some ' upgrades ' the countries that still use it wanted us to put on it. ( kind of a multi-national project at this point )
There are, currently, 149 F-15C Eagles, 219 F-15E Strike Eagles, and 2 F-15EX Super Eagles active in the U.S.A.F.'s arsenal. The average sevice life is over 30 years, and many have received updated engines. Beyond the U.S.A.F.s contingent I couldn't tell you how many are still flying, but I would guess "a lot".
Yes, as the Eagle flies for many nations air forces. Trivia…the Eagles first kill was achieved w the Israeli Air Force, against a MiG 25 I think flown by Syria or Egypt in the 70s.
@@jimreilly917 almost all of the 104 kills are Israeli.
@@jimreilly917 70s then likely Egyptian, maybe Palestinian as the 70s was when the 7 day war between Israel and Egypt happened, in which the then Palestine decided to join in and help the Egyptians only to then lose... everything
I've watched a few reactions to the F15 video and you're the first person I've seen react so much to "we don't make sense, we're bane dollars" and I love that it hit you like that. That is by far the most American thing I've ever heard and also by far my favorite part of the original video.
6:34 they also have different mission sets. The F-22 &F-35 is meant to be practically invisible & kill stuff while the F-15 is meant to be very visible while killing stuff
As an American, i can say the line "this is america, we dont make sense we make dollars" quite literally sums up America
I was out in Death Valley National park camping for a week in Saline Valley. You can watch these guys practice in the sky doing their dog fight maneuvers. so saline valley is a clothing optional hot spring area and one of these pilots does a low fly by upside down and is waving at the girls. Very impressive! and I would like to thank that pilot for getting all the naked girls to jump and down waving at him.
😂😂💀
F-22 is meant to replace the F-15C as air superiority. F-15E will be around for some time as it is more multi-role.
About the shooting of a satellite, look up the ASM-135A ASAT missile. The F-15C was designated as only aircraft that could fire the missile due to its ability to gain speed as it went vertical since the only thing to slow it down was lack of oxygen for the engines.
F-22 was "meant" but short sightedness by the Govt led it to never be used in combat, so far its got 1 weather balloon to its credit. The NGAD will be the next Best Fighter whenever it comes out.
@AlbertoMartinez765 The government will still force the issue since there are very few generals with the balls to stand up and point out the forest for the trees.
@@AlbertoMartinez765 It hasn't been used is actually false. It has flow combat missions just hasn't fired its weapons outside the balloon. The "you should go home now" story is a great example.
@@Ammo1313I bet the real kill number is still classified
Hands down the fat electrician is the best military video creator factual and funny af hope to see you watching more of his videos
Agree
Before my mother had me and left the Air Force, she was an airframe mechanic on the F-15. Always love seeing stuff about it.
I've seen multiple other channels react to FE and everyone who has interacted with him all say he's genuinely an awesome guy. He's popped into Mr Terry's livestream amd sent him merch.
If you are still in the UK, go to the RAF Lakenheath and watch the F-15 E and C's fly. That F-15 flying in that canyon was in England and the British planes do terrain avoidance there as well to the Plane spotter's delight.
Sadly as of a few years back, Lakenheath only has E models. But they do have F35s now, which are just as cool. Mother fuckers shake the fucking earth when they take off.
The canyon you are speaking of is referred to as the Mach Loop, and its in Wales, not England.
7,300+ are still in use, 0 losses in combat
There are about 160 F-22s, they stopped making them.
And I got my US citizenship during year 5 in the USMC
Well...to be specific, never shot down in air combat is not the same as never ever shot down. A significant number of F-15s have been shot down, just never in air to air combat...those SAMs can be a real bitch. 😁
@@iKvetch558 no one likes SAM
@@achillesm203 Except for that Weasel guy...he sure is Wild about SAM. 😜
oorah brother. Then you earned that citizenship. We had a guy in my platoon from Guyana doing the same thing. I respect that.
Outstanding, Marine. Where from originally?
Posted this on Nick's video cause it had more crazy F-15 facts, including two pop culture facts I missed including.
Alright, I found an old book on fighter jets to help add to this legend of a plane. You called it a rocket. NAH! It BEAT a rocket. It would actually set a world record in time-to-height and beat the Apollo moonshot at certain heights. It also set records for crossing the country as well. And let's not forget the big one: the F-15 was pretty much made due to translation error and luck. The Soviets had created the much overrated MiG-25 Foxbat, a interceptor capable of very high speeds of Mach 3 (which basically became a resource/money dump cause the Reds made it to counter a bomber we never even put into full production). The US got word of this new Mach 3 capable fighter and basically went "Oh shit, we need to beat this." Now, did you catch the mistake? If you did, you did better then US intel did. A translation error got the Foxbat labeled a FIGHTER instead of an INTERCEPTOR, which is important as one means a combat aircraft that is ment to stay and play if need be against all types of aircraft, the other is ment to go as fast as possible to intercept enemy bombers (typically) so being maneuverable isn't a need compared to top speed. So, the F-15 would be needed but SAC would've been an issue as well due to it usually being run by bomber generals...... cept that time the fighter jockeys got command of SAC and gleefully greenlit the program. Thus, the beautiful monster that is the Eagle came to be the king of the sky we know and love. Side note: ever notice the F-22 looks alot like an Eagle but made for stealth? Kinda the point, if it ain't broke, just make it a better plane anyway cause fuck fighting fair.
One more fact is the F-15 is current the best fighter aircraft PERIOD due to both it's standing flawless kill ration of 104:0 and it's held that record for 50+ YEARS,. Yes, technically some planes have more kills but they importantly have losses as well so the Eagle reigns at the top as of now as none have been lost to enemy aircraft.
As for pop culture, in the 80s Transformer cartoon, the F-15 was Starscream's vehicle mode cause the air commander insisted on assuming the form of the best combat aircraft he could, so he picked the Eagle then and the Raptor later in the Bay era. Finally, the F-15 would be the cover plane for Ace Combat Zero where your AI wingman, Pixy, has the same accident as the Israeli pilot and he paints his wing red as homage to his accident, even gaining the nickname 'Solo-wing Pixy.'
The chubby electron guy is awesome
Practically a slim neutron, really
that's quite a feat, since electrons have almost no mass
I’m not a pilot, and never been in the military. But I’ve seen on of these at an air show. When it was discussing creating enough thrust to overcome lift, drag, etc…we saw a demonstration of that. It came in low and turned vertical right above the crowd. It can actually accelerate while going vertical. So it disappeared like rocket. It’s insane. Only thing more impressive was watching a Harrier come by at 400mph or something around there, and the next time it comes by it stops midair. Spins around in a 360° circle, and then starts backing up in the air.
The F-15 is still in ACTIVE PRODUCTION with the US Air Force still buying them, including the brand new Eagle II variant which is replacing the older ones that have more flight hours on their airframe than the pilots have in total flight time. This is a 50 year old aircraft that is still DOMINANT.
Also as an American, the whole "we don't make sense we make dollars", that line is true AF, no offense taken, I see it as a point of pride.
F-15: I'm not stuck out here with you. You're stuck out here with me.
Seriously, I lived near a lockheed base becausemy dad and I both worked there assembling jets like these. Hated working on F-35's but anytime an F-16 and rare cases, an F-15, I was delighted to see it and would often go pester the pilot about it who usually were more than happy to sit with me and my dad for dinner at a local BBQ place after work. I was always too scared to fly in one when given the chance because I had just been disgnosed with epilepsy during that time and wasn't sure if I was healthy enough, but man, seeing those things take off and even fly during air shows was such an amazing experience.
That F-15 that lost its wing still had a small portion of the wing left but it still could fly. What looks blurry, that is the fuel coming out of the tank.
Fat Electrician Rocks! Freedom Fractions!
Inches are bigger than millimeters!!
@@BudKnocka smaller than meters ;-)
"104 and 0, look out below!" Fucking love this jet, especially since every time I look at military news, it's usually this thing that seems to keep getting upgrades XD
The F-22 has a war games record against the F-15 of 44-1
Very true. But remember, the lesson of the air war in Vietnam. Once the ROE changes the stealth advantages of the F22 will be neutralized. At that point the F15 will once again become the more effective combat weapon.
@@thomasking5472 ...no The F-22 is faster and way more maneuverable. There was training with 1 F-22 vs multiple F-15s at close range on their radar, guess who still won.....F-15 effective combat weapon...because it can carry more armaments allowing it to have a wider range of missions, which does nothing when its out matched in the sky.
Hey my friend, thank you for your service, from a Canadian Army vet (First Field Artillery, Halifax-Dartmouth) Reserves, Great video!
The Geneva Suggestions😂😂
You should watch his videos all the way to the end cuz he does outros in the last 10-20 seconds after he flashes his logo. You’re missing out on some of the best content of his videos.
My Dad Was a Fighter Pilot who flew the F-15E in Several Squadrons across America and in foreign countries. 29 years in the United States Air Force Proud of my dad and everyone who serves our country!
🙂
He tells great anecdotes, esp. about the troops.
A F-15 demo team preformed at my local airshow last year. Still hands down one of the most impressive and awe inspiring performance and I put that over the F22 flight in the same show!
You should look into the USS Barb... Trains were flying with that one
This is a demo video of the F-22 Raptor at Huntington Beach, CA. I was a AIC (Air Intercept Controller in the Navy for 14 years, I never had control of one of these aircraft...just F-4's and F-14's. The most impressive thing for me about the F-22 is the turning circle. It can change course on a dime. That is mind boggling. I would hate to be an enemy fighter trying to chase one down from behind. It is also fast and quick, An absolutely amazing aircraft.
That plane that lost a wing was flown by an Israeli pilot who activated his afterburner and stopped the plane from spinning. No one realized a whole wing was gone till it landed, and not even Mcdonald Douglas, who built it, knew how it continued to fly until they sent a team to review all the data
I live near a base where they routinely do test flights with these jets, I can't explain how loud these planes are. They literally shake your house as they fly overhead. If you're listening to anything, you have to pause it until they're gone, even with headphones on, you can't hear a single thing.
nick literally has no bad videos and i can watch them all day. seeing someone else get genuine enjoyment out of him brings me major happiness
The one on Percy Hobart is great who knew a Brit came up with blitzkreg
that guy who landed with just one wing has balls of steel.. hope he got a medal from that ..
Just a tip for watching The Fat Electrician, watch through his credits, he usually has something funny to say at the end. Other than that love the videos! Keep it up!
I first saw an F-15 in 1976...I was amazed at it's ability to climb...I was so used to F-4E Phantoms...The Eagle is still amazing...
Nic's a pretty chill dude from everything I've seen/heard, if you reach out to him I highly suspect he'd have no problem doing a Collab or letting you react to everything he put out
As he said in this video, Nic already said he could react to any video
The F15 is a beast in combat, in a H2H between F22 & F15 it'd be a toss up the pilots make the difference. The Generation 5 we now are just the tip of the iceberg Generation 6 is now in testing & production phase while Generation 7 is on the development whiteboard and Generation 8 is being concepted.
No the F-22 has a known record of 108 to 0 in training vs F-15, F-16, and F-18, and those air craft where being controlled by skilled pilots.
It would be awesome to see a Collab with you and the Fed electrician between your enthusiasm for the US military and his unseemly never-ending knowledge make for a great duo. Thank you for reacting to this. Looking forward to to more! 🤙
The F15 is the hall of fame fighter who never lost a fight, the F22 is his protege who is better in nearly every way and everyone is afraid of him.
The F35 is the f22 but instead of training under the F15 religiously since birth, it trained until it finished high school and then went to college and got its PH.D
The F22 is the most deadly man made flying object in history, and the F35 is the F22 at 85-90% strength but also insanely smart.
The F22 is so stealthy that the size of its radar cross section is somewhere between a bumblebee and a mayfly, while the F35's radar cross section is about the size of a hummingbird. A little bigger than the F22.
The F22 is faster, more nimble, and overall deadlier in a 1v1, but the F35 is still absolutely an apex predator, and the F15 is a speed demon with missiles attached to it.
*Edit, I've just learned that the new F-15EX "Eagle Two" is (among other upgrades) getting a massive boost to horsepower with new engines producing 11,000lbs MORE thrust, meaning it's literally getting supercharged and more technical upgrades like sensors and electronic warfare capabilities. If I'm understanding the numbers correctly its a nearly 60% additional boost to its thrust capability.
Fun fact, an F15-E that ran out of ordinance from a bombing run dove at the ground and pulled up at the last second to produce a sonic boom and scare away the enemy that had the American troops ambushed on the ground. I believe there is a video about it here on UA-cam. It saved the lives of all the boots on the ground that day. The Enemy ran for their lives thinking it was bombs being dropped, It literally is the Bully of the skies. lol
You’re right 5:57. It has been upgraded. Hundreds of times. Workhorse.
Nah man he genuinely is fine with people reacting. I mean, Kip is a gamer that's never been in the military, and he's reacted to all of TFE's long-form videos.
I remember the first time i saw F15s take off vertical like that and the sonic boom they made flying by beyond the sound barrier. Dad used to take me to the air show every few years. It was always impressive no matter how many times i experienced it.
Please check out the A-10 , that beast can take a beating like no one else.
The thing about The Fat Electrician is that he is to Military and Military history as Casual Geographics is to Wildlife Biology and Wildlife Biology History. He's just going to give it to you as it is and it's your job to try to keep a straight face about how he's telling you the details.
Also, what are you on about? "I haven't reacted to the F-15." That's the thing the US made in panic response to the Soviet Foxbat and it turns out that the US just reinvented aerial warfare due to that and made it the rest of the world's problem.
The thing really differentiating the F-15, F-16, and F-18 from the F-22 and F-35 is stealth and combat intent. So the Teen series of fighters had to be fast. That was their anti-missile defense. However around the time of the F-18, engineers and the military realized something kind of important that ended up slowing down (as in physically, not the development time) of the F-22 and F-35. Most aerial combat doesn't happen at mach 2. It is usually sub sonic because sonic and super sonic flight is just asking for things to get ripped off. Then the F-22 and F-35 have stealth built into them. So instead of having to outrun a missile, the onus is put on the missile to find the 22 and 35 first. So the requirement to move at sonic and super sonic speed became less of a requirement as stealth became the focal defense and also there's little reason for an air superiority fighter to "efficiently" cruise at above mach speed because dogfights, should it come to that, don't happen at above mach speed.
Nick is good people.
I love the F-15 Strike Eagle. (I have 2 brothers that were Air Force) However, due to personal experience as a US Army grunt, the Warthog has my heart and soul.
F-22s have a 41:1 (iirc) kill/death ratio against F-15s in simulated combat
That's because the F-15s can't see the F-22.
it can see it, it just can't target it. you can "see" stealth aircraft on radar, but gaining a weapons grade lock is damn near impossible until they're within like 20 miles. far far outside the range of the 100 mile AMRAAM d models. @@ripstake
SIMULATED.
That wasnt just vs F-15s it was F-15s and other unnamed aircraft. Usually when F-15s score a kill on F-22 it is in a 1v4+ and or the F-22 has to dogfight with multiple aircraft, or the F-22 has its radar disabled or is put in an ambushed scenario.
Had an F16 fly over me when I was returning from lunch at work. 😂😂😂😂😂 it was headed to the Indy 500 to my knowledge. It happened so fast and loud and earth shaking. I was thinking mere mortals can completely forget about ……..everything.
In 1995 a gangster rapper named DJ Quik released an album called "Safe and Sound". One of the singles from the album was called "If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense". I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't where he got the idea for his fantastic quip he used.
I work for the air force and the F-15 is what most pilots coming into the air force want to fly. They are quick and very deadly to hostel aircraft. It is without a question , My favorite jet.
P.S. Love your channel and your videos.
Per Google:
"Over 950 are still in service. The US Air Force has 460 active F-15 of all models (C, D. E and E-X). Israel has 84 activ"
I think the 1990's comedy movie Hot Shots! had a scene in it where the pilot with the nearsightedness reported to flight control that it has lost both wings but there was no problem to report, and then like 15 minutes later after the battle in the movie was over and everyone's on the flight deck that dude in the wingless F-15 just bellyflop lands the craft onto the deck.
I LOVE your sense of humor. Not just because you and the electrician remind me of me.
I was Security Forces for an F-15 base with an active mission. This is one bad ass plane. We had the oldest F-15s in the Air Force inventory, but they were the best maintained. Southern Oregon holds the F-15 flight school. They started pairing F-15s with the F-22. The entire nose of the F-15 is a radar, its job is to take out enemy air craft before the enemy even knows the F-15 is there. The reasoning for pairing the F-15 with the F-22 is so that the F-15 can mark for the F-22 while the F-22 is able to use its stealth capability in conjunction with the F-15s radar. This gives them more battlefield knowledge when there is no AWAX available. The F-15 can also fly in the stratosphere and shoot down satellites with proper armament.
The clip where the F-15 takes off and breaks the sound barrier, thats my base. They only do this during an alert take off, which means something is violating air space and/or is a threat. Its amazing to watch. Never gets old, especially at night when you get to see the afterburner cookin!
The Percy Hobart video is a really good one too. Without him the Western Front in Europe would never have happened, and North Africa would have been lost. No joke.
Prior service Eagle Keeper here. And it's a dream to maintain as well. On average it takes 2.5 - 3 hours for 3 crew chiefs to change an engine, modular avionics and other time saving tech.
When compared to the F-4 where it takes 5 guys 8 hours to remove and engine, well, you get the picture.
i love that joke, you dont need to apologize for finding anything funny! keep up the good work
I know I am late, but we still use the F-15 a lot. It lives on in different variations and I think we still use the regular one as well. Though the different ones are the F-15 Silent Eagle stealth variant. There is the F-15 Strike Eagle variant allowing it to carry more weapons. Just recently the F-15 X or EX or something, came out. There may be more but that’s all I remember.
Yeah, while the C variant is still active, it stopped being built decades ago, and all production lines in the world for it have been shut down and fully decommissioned. So, if you want a new F-15 of any variety, you have to go with the E variant as the base, and that is what happened with the EX.
Now, I personally don't know if this is indeed the case, but I suspect that is why that variant's designation starts with an E, even though despite have the setup of a two-seater, it is flown only with the pilot and no back-seater (it can still have an operating back-seater, but it rarely, if ever, happens).
@7:44 Cents and dollars made me think "Murica' Fck yeah"
It’s the power to weight ration due to the size of the aircraft and the power the engines produce = 1/1. Giving the F-15 eagle not just speed but maneuverability in dog fights. Thus making the F-15 a very big threat in air to air combat. Coupled with look down shoot down radar, this fighter can also cover beyond visual range engagements as well. It’s the best of what the Us has fielded and proven in combat.
That was a vapor cone, not breaking the sound barrier. That's what happens when airflow over the airframe causes moisture in the air to condense.
I served for 12 years in Norway’s Jaegerkommandoen KostalMarinen. I experienced horror serving during the Serbian conflict and was wounded there in 1992. I haven’t much to say about that not because there isn’t much to say but because there is too much to say that cannot bear. It is nobody’s business anyway. But what I will say is that every time we did night jump during training near Tromso at minus -30 degrees F or less, I nearly sh*t in my boots every time. With anything ocean or water I am fine but up in the air? No. I held it together but inside I cried like a poopy diaper baby every time. I love your channel and seeing this amazing jet is well, amazing.
Fun fact, a version of the f-15 that was stripped down to bare bones got to 93 thousand feet in 207 seconds. Thats faster than the Saturn V rocket.
You being a brother across da pond, I think your half right.
You do it right... his link down below... gave a tutorial...
giving credit counts. And you, some how, actually give commentary!
Brilliant!
There's something special about the Air Force. They make a new thing for everything they want. You want ground support? You get the Warthog and the Spectre. You want screaming fast air dominance? You get the Eagle and Aardvark. You want insane stealth? We have seven to twelve that you may pick from(they also occupy most places on the top speed list).
There are A LOT of F-15s still in service. It’s so gangster that they decided to build a newer version of it. The F-15EX. Coming soon to a theatre near you.
5:30 That's the whole reason for the newer version of the F-15 it will work with F-35's as a workhorse carrying large loads of ammunition while the F-35 directs the combat and targeting. So yeah the F-15 isn't being replaced completely for a while.
I'm glad you said "as a citizen, you are kinda allowed to laugh at yourself." More than that, you are allowed to laugh at others. You have a wonderful freedom of speech! I wanted dual citizenship, but European laws are so strict!
Neat thing on the F-15 that lost the wing and kept flying, if I remember right, is that the body of the plane generates slightly more lift than the wings combined due to the design. So losing the one wing didn't put it in a horribly unstable center of lift to center of mass offset that would result in it rapidly/instantly slipping into a unrecoverable spin. This combined with the very large control surfaces and it's speed and thrust allowed it to counter act the offset forces that did come into effect when it lost it's wing enough that... well it kept flying and landed lol. If it wasn't for these three factors, the high lift amount of the body, large control surfaces, and speed/thrust it couldn't of done what it did.
22 is the solution to a problem that never existed. It's air to air combat capabilities are insane. But the Eagle has so much versatility it's full range of mission capabilities couldn't possibly be replaced by a stealth fighter so both are still used to carry out a wide range of needs.
By replace, they mean that the primary mission duties and capabilities of the F-15 are being incorporated into the mission and capabilities of the 22. The 22 is going to be used the way the 15 was used in the past.
The f15 will continue to be in use because it’s still pretty advanced and you don’t need the maximum technologically superiority of something like f35 if you already have total air superiority. If there’s no threats might as well use something cheaper than f35 that can carry more. Additionally, it’s important to note the us airforce is literally generations ahead of everyone else. We’ve already built a 5th gen fighter (f22), cut its production because it was so overkill it was unnecessary, waited a decade, and restarted with a new 5th gen fighter (f35) and built 1000 of them. The only country that might be close is China, who might have 5th gen as well but it’s hard to know if it’s actually as advanced as they claim or largely propaganda (or somewhere in between). The Russians technically have a couple but it’s like 12 and they don’t even seem to actually be 5th gen in performance. And the only other countries that are close are all just allies of the us that despite being close just bought f35 instead. Us upgraded 4th gen fighters will often still be a generation ahead of anything the us military needs to engage, so after some quick runs from f35 to destroy stuff like air defenses and other advanced fighters 4th gen fighters like f15 ex would be able to do a lot of the stuff because it’ll become a relatively low threat environment.
Nine years ago, I lived really close to an AFB. I always knew when the F15 were taking off from there...window rattling *BOOM*
5:15 is the king of the sky. It is never been defeated and air to air combat it has put down over 100 enemy jets. And they just came out with the f-15ex. Upgraded technology. It is bad to the bone. 🇺🇸😁💪✌️
I saw a documentary on the F-15 that lost the wing. It cracked me up when it said the mfr rushed over a team to figure out how it was able to fly. The fuselage bottom had acted like a lifting body, and the 1+ thrust did the rest. I guess this qualifies as 'overdesigned.'
F-15 was designed by fighter pilots after Vietnam (late '60s) & developed to be a single role air superiority fighter (& was later modified into a 2-seater multi-role airframe, the F-15E). Came out in '71 & went AF wide in '72. Was the first jet to accelerate going straight up (as in it could touch its rear 2 wheels down on the runway, drop its speed brake, pull up, go full after burner, then accelerate like a rocket vertically). The Fat Electrician was slightly wrong w one of his comments: McDonald-Douglas engineers determined that the Israel F15 was able to continue to fly with additional thrust due to the flat surface of the jet & the large rear ailerons creating enough lift to keep it in controlled flight. The original F-15A models were replaced by the C's & most of those are near the end of their airframe lifespan. They plane has been modified over the past 3 decades for various countries like Japan, Saudi Arabia, S. Korea & others, leading to both improvements as well as an F-15S (Silent Eagle) that had stealth characteristics from the F-22 built in. The F-22 out performs the F-15 in every category performance wise, other than range & payload capacity (as well as being much more expensive per hour to fly). The new F-15 EX model will be a HUGE step up from the previous versions - faster, more fuel efficient, lighter, fly by wire = much more maneuverable, & have way more modern electronics. The new EX model will be able to go toe-to-toe with any 4th or 4.5 gen fighter on the planet while serving as a "missile mule" for planes like the F-22 & F-35. Nice video - Cheers!
…shoots down space satellite.
“Wait. Wait wait wait! Let me ponder the logistics.”
😂😂
We both said it at the same time.
Wild stuff.
"We don't make sense we make dollars." I am SO getting that tattooed somewhere.
I found the fat electrian lile 2 months ago, and i drive for a living.. so ive listened to just about every video he has out! This dude is HILARIOUS! And educational! I love it
A ground check engineer at MD St. Louis gave my son a picture take thru the vertical stabilizers of a inverted F-15, below the rim of the Grand Canyon at max 1.5.!!
The F-15 was replaced for air superiority, its still a multirole and surprisingly excellent ground attack aircraft as well.