Right after the war, when asked who contributed most to Allies victory, French people responded in large majority the USSR. 10 yrs later, same answer. 70yrs later, the same question was asked and this time French people answered in majority the US. How living and growing up through the events really differ from living and growing up with how the events are depicted in movies...
Because in fact without lend-lease the USSR would have lost the war.. Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and intermediary between Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed directly the significance of Lend-lease aid in his memoirs: I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so
6:41 i’m russian and ones an old grandma lived in the same house as my family. she was a teenager in Stalingrad battle. she told horrible stories about mountains of bodies - every day new mountains appeared. she was a battle nurse. all of neighbours gathered to listen those stories. many were crying
To assault a souverain state is always a crime like the Allies fixed at the Nürnberg Trial - Germany was guilty. Every time I hear about how all the victims who suffered so much it make me feel sad and sick - believe me. Greatings from Germany.
Yeah and right now your country's military doing the same in some ukrainian citys, Mariupol as an example while majority of your population doesn't seem to care enough to try and stop this, your own relatives serving in army funded by your taxes. And so many among them are even cheering to keep going. Very sad for your experience of not taking lessons from your past.
@@Sarfixell bro, it's unbelievebly easy to -пиздеть- speak how people just can stop this bullshit, but it seems you just don't understand what you're speaking about either from childish naivety or stupidity. There were mass protests, some people ruined whole their life just to stay in the street, but the only thing they got were fines, dismissals, inprisonment, torture or death. The fact is armed and organized people are much stronger than unarmed and disorginized. The state crushes any attempts of open disobeyance. If you want a demo of "staying in russia with "peace to world" poster", you can attack any police officer. Effect will be kinda similar. Maybe more hurch in Russia with probability of broken bones and court absolutely on police side whatever they do. And if for some unknown reason you don't want to get such consequences, then I wouldn't say you have any right to judge people for doing the same. It's very sad that there are people, who were washed by propaganda and now believe in some -racial- supremacy, that this is somehow "defensive" war, that we need to repeat "going to Berlin and then to Paris". But this is not majority. Majority is just scared. Majority can't do anything against armed people who are loyal to the regime as the regime works just to make life of authorities and security forces good. And yeah, West does pretty awful job to end the war. They sponsor the war by buying Russian oil, send not enough help to Ukraine while being able to send so much to end this war much faster, but europeans and americans don't fking care about ukrainians, so they aren't ready to sucrifice their own quaility of life even a little. Instead West makes absolutely useless sanctions, which harm not the state, not the military machine, but the regular people, so it's the West who encourages people to support Putin, as if everyone in the world hates and harms you when personally you did absolutely nothing wrong as most Russians just living their boring lifes, then you just have to go to the only person not harming you and saying you're good.
That's a gross oversimplification of the US contribution to the war, even before direct involvement the US was supplying the Allies with astronomical amounts of weapons, material, and supplies. The Soviets themselves have said without the lend lease Russia would have fallen. Meanwhile the US was engaged in two battlefronts simultaneously. As Patton said "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country"
Its not even that, obviously there was more than manpower involved in defeating Nazi Germany, but its cringewrothy just the fact that people these days that have nothing to do with what happened, made zero contribution (because they were alive) are somehow trying to insult or "take credit" for something they had 0 part in. While people lost their lives protecting their family and nation..Every single partisan, uprising that got shut down..All these people lost their lives just so some retard behind a keyboard almost a century later can say "We won WW2"
If 'We' means United Nations collectively then it's absolutely correct. United Nations BTW was the official title of the allied forces during WW2. The later organization just inherited the name during it's establishment.
This is why it's kinda hurtful when I hear American people talk only about their involvement and their losses during these wars, completely ignoring everyone else :( Same goes when victory is discussed, it was a team effort. The Canadians did so much for my hometown!
@@lolololol7573 Hurtful? It’s hilarious. Americans sitting in safety over there, growing rich on war profiteering and only sweeping in as one ally of many at the very end, with minimal losses. And STILL bragging about it, thinking they were all that. It’s pathetic, is what it is.
@@selenawolf2466 My paternal grandfather joined the US army as an 18 year old in late 1944 I think (he had like 6 brothers who all served, Wisconsin farm boys). He participated in the Philippines campaign and Okinawa and was later deployed to Nagasaki (or Hiroshima I forget which) in the occupation. My maternal grand father enlisted in the Royal Canadian Navy, in 1944 I think he was 18 as well, and he arrived in Europe on his first deployment just as the war ended. His wife's brother, my Great Uncle, was in the 1st Canadian division, and fought at Ortona. I personally never really spoke to him about it as I was very young and didn't really meet him that many times, but he wasn't shy when he was drunk according to family members.
yeah then ask the canadians to make a movie about WWII from their point of view.... The americans are telling their point of view of the war, ofcourse its centered on them what they know... but you know what the Russians for example wont say in their wwII movies? they wont say how the americans supplied the Russian armies with guns, bullets, food, even trucks, socks and shoes for their soldiers.... also they will talk about the bravery of their troops and how many more of them died than the americans, sure, but they wont say that americans actually cared a bit at least about their losses and their strategies were though on losing as less people as possible while actually making the enemy lose more soldiers, while the Russian strategies were more like... Meh, just send soldiers until they ran out of soldiers first... Also the Russian wont tell you about the trail of rapes and random execution left behind by the soldiers to the point people were so scared that they started evacuating on ships, and a ship packed with 9000 people, mostly civilians was sunk by a russian sub, and after that the russians droped deep charges on top of the wreck to destroy it.
Here in Australia we lost like 1/4 of young men... Many in theatres so far from home .... Massive massive cost on families and society.... My grand dad was an aircraft mechanic and had to wash dead pilots out of planes so they could get them to fly again. His dad before him was gassed in europe. War affected these wonderful men terribly two generations of men traumatized.... That flows through a family .... And when many families experience it then there is a massive affect. I am so damn angry that war is still with us. The children of the middle east of Ukraine of the war affected regions of Africa .... Trauma is not right
Exactly, so I can’t blame Russia for invading Ukraine now, after the West betrayed all previous agreements, used peace deals only to better arm Ukraine and gain time, and couldn’t care less for the killing and discrimination of Russophones by Kyiv. They sure don’t want to have their enemies in Stalingrad again, it’s only logic they made a move in advance this time. Russia will never be my enemy, forever glory to them !
Yes my grandfather was a part of the Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire regiment, he was sent to Singapore in Feb of 1942, it fell in 10 days and then for the next 4 years, he was a prisoner of war shuttled around building a damn bridge, death march, then placed on the Maru warships and finally sent to Japan in a camp where he saw even more atrocities. 4 years before he came home. Out of 340+ soldiers in our community, less than 50 came home
France had already lost so many in the first world war. If they continued fighting against the german invasion, they would have very few men to keep populations up post-war. It was too costly. They surrendered this one time to try to save the people and have been labeled cowards ever since. Pretty unfair!
This why Europeans get so upset by America saying it saved Europe. America has no idea what the war in Europe was like. America did not suffer the amount of civilian casualties that Europe and Asia did. The American civilian population was insulated from the horrors of WWII and for most of the war carried on as normal. America civilians need to wise up about what war actually does.
True, but there were still tenths of thousands of American 18-year olds running into machine gun fire at the Normany landing. That was crucial to ending the war and the sooner it ended the sooner the killing stopped. They were also crucial in Asia. It is their part of the story and it is a big part.
@@DenUitvreter And hundreds of thousands had been doing for three years before America even entered the war. Your point typifies how America makes out it was the great hero, they assume nobody else suffered deaths at the rate they did, Others did and in greater numbers. They had been suffering for years. And if we talk about D-Day, there were more British and Canadian troops than there were Americans.
@@MaoZhu-j6q I'm just saying they are entitled to their heroic story as part of a much greater story. I'm okay with them taking their perspective, not with acting like there is no greater story they are just a (important) part of.
a big part of it is, 2 american civilians died due to foreign bombings. thats it. thousands died in the blitz. millions in the holocaust. all those people, who werent even soldiers.
Knowing the history and numbers, it is especially funny and sad to watch Hollywood movies in which the victory in WW II is exclusively the merit of the Americans and the British, while Eastern front and the USSR has nothing to do with it and not mentioned at all. Every day, year after year, more and more people begin to believe in this, as only a few read history books, while billions watch Hollywood movies.
The same happens in reverse, if anything even more commonly. Unfortunately, that tends to happen when there's a big divide between nations and they fought right after.
@@Infiltator2 Once again don't make it look like the US was the only one who helped, England helped as well and not less, they even built tanks for them. Without aid USSR would struggle longer and lost more? - sure, no doubt. Would they lost war? - very unlikely. There was plenty of territory for retreat and prolonging the war, and the entire industrial complex was located far to the east in Siberia. ps: btw if we are playing "what if", how about this - how successful would the German offensive have been in first years of war if the US had not sold them oil? Much of the air bombing of Europe was only possible because of US oil supplies. Luftwaffe literally ran on American fuel.
Мне хочется ответить по-русски, потому что я не совсем представляю, как написать об этом на другом языке. Есть такое понятие, как "эхо войны" (по крайней мере, в таком названии я об этом слышала). Во время Второй мировой (в СССР она получила название Вторая Отечественная война) погиб или пострадал каждый третий, не было ни одной семьи, которой бы война не коснулась, из всех миллионов, живших на территории республик. И так началось эхо войны. Погибшее поколение - 20-летние парни и девушки - никогда не вернулось домой и не родило детей. Спустя 20-30 лет их неродившиеся дети тоже не оставили потомков. Спустя еще 20-30 лет, их неродившиеся внуки не родили правнуков. Третье эхо еще и наложилось на распад СССР, после которого всем образовавшимся странам пришлось долго восстанавливаться. В конце 90-х могли не открываться детсады и школы, потому что детей просто было недостаточно. В России Великую Отечественную войну продолжают помнить и стремятся рассказывать о ней даже нынешним поколениям, потому что до сих пор существуют последствия, которые напрямую связаны с теми, казалось бы, далекими событиями, и до недавнего времени еще живы были многие ветераны и дети войны - наши бабушки и дедушки. И в этом, как мне кажется, и заключена главная разница: мы знаем ту войну не как историю из учебников, а как личную трагедию нашей семьи.
Ни как не знают войну нынешние люди, всем плевать на страдания трагедии и тп, в россии празднуют победу. И война не была причиной развала, вообще можно считать она была причиной того что СССР продержался чуть дольше, а дальше в итоге все пришло к тому к чему и так шло. И про недостаточное количество детей из-за войны - тоже полная чушь, это люди просто перестали детей заводить потому что условия жизни крайне неблагоприятны (и ныне становится только хуже)
Такая для вас трагедія, что вьі, блдж, решили её повторить. Зашибись повторили, правда. На эхо войньі ещё сколько - лям с обоих сторон? И если с Украиньі потери ещё размазаньі по разньім возрастам - основная масса там мирняк - то у РФ основная масса - нестарьіе мужики. Лет через 40 такими темпами от основьі СССР остануться только белорусьі.
I'm from Belarus. We lost up to 25% of our population in that war. The thing I'm really grateful for in this video is the words "Mostly, it was the war of Soviet and Germany". That's true, and I appreciate the recognition
It is however an overstressed point. 45% of axis killed captured and wounded, by the western powers. This is not to say it is not significant party, of course it was, it was a fundamental pillar. Its as absurd to dismiss the the wests role, as much as it is to dismiss the USSR.
A wise man once said: “ When you see your fatherland in ruins, your hometown in flames and the blood of your children running down the street, then you know what war in your own country means! " This wise man was my grandfather!
People who watch wars on television just don't know. People where I live now have told me about dead children in the street in the 1970s. I know of people settling scores with opposition people that go on decades.
The death toll of USSR for solders counts mainly battle capable men and women, which are young people, some even children, because of how desperate the time was. It was a disastrous cut on the young population. It can be seen as a large dip in general and a skew towards women's side in the population pyramid graph, the effects of which were still visible even in 2010. There is a reason in Russia and other post-soviet countries the Victory Day is still celebrated.
Thank you Ryan. I am 93 and I remember the pictures of the concentration camps in the picture post magazines. They have never left my memory. The horror never goes away. Nobody seems to remember nearly the whole world was involved.
Bless you nothing I can say to you that'll help the your pain away You've had to live in in human way of life just to survive Lots of love ❤ and respect for all of you who suffered lose RIP to those who suffered From Australia 🦘🇦🇺 👍
@@Stefiiiz It would have if his or her family were involved. My father fought in WWII. His father was a London Policeman and my mother lived with her parents in London during the blitz. (Both since deceased). Mum had memories of it and told what she and her family went through. My father never talked about it.
@@Linda_AUS Yes, but there's nothing in his comment suggesting that's the case. Also, the commenter I was responding to seemed to think that he was actually in the camp, and not just watching a picture in some magazine.
As a Brit, I'm realising how shamefully little I actually know about the war beyond the Blitz, children being evacuated, the Holocaust and D-Day. I guess my education and exposure on the subject has been just as focused on my own country's involvement as the Americans' education has been focused on theirs. I'm going to have to learn a lot more.
Some education or storys I should say, you can see in most Sabaton-music. Resist and Bite for Example is about a belgium unit defending against the Blitztroops with 40 or 50 man against a few thousand. Those little storys make Sabaton music more enjoyable!!
Half of WWII was fought on the eastern front, literally. The european theater was a german-soviet thing for the most part from summer 41 onwards until the surrender of germany. My grandparents from the mother side had to flee the soviets in early 45 ... i suggest a video with the title "World War II Every Day with Army Sizes". Combine that with the death toll from this video and you begin to understand the sheer scale of the soviet-german war ... greetings from Gardelegen, Germany.
@@Sjb2077 horror of trump? 😮🤦♂️ wow, you really are a victim of brainwashing...plus you seem to not be able to use those last two remaining braincells of yours... wow, just wow trump was most praceful us president in a half century... he rather ended wars and started NONE...
Literally each family in Russia and other post-Soviet countries has a history of a dead soldier. Please don't forget this sacrifice. These people are the reason why you are alive.
Both my grandfathers were part of this war from the side of then Yugoslavia. Imagine listening to their stories firsthand. One of them was fighting on The Syrmian Front, luckily survived, and lived to be 89. RIP, grandpa!
War has become BIG BUSINESS for the US after WW2. Their factories/industry have never suffered any damage like Britain or Germany. And the US does nothing for free, they serve you a bill after being "helpfull". www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=when+ended+the+slavery+pay+for+the+UK+to+the+USA www.google.com/search?q=when+ended+the++pay+for+the+UK+to+the+USA+ww2&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=cd9ae887f40522c5&sxsrf=ADLYWIJvHIoQnVOBUVUt9q8KTRAdIuYDbQ%3A1731718056288&ei=qOs3Z9eeEbidi-gPi_yEmQk&ved=0ahUKEwjXkuK80N-JAxW4zgIHHQs-IZMQ4dUDCA8&oq=when+ended+the++pay+for+the+UK+to+the+USA+ww2&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiLXdoZW4gZW5kZWQgdGhlICBwYXkgZm9yIHRoZSBVSyB0byB0aGUgVVNBIHd3MjIFECEYoAFIm8gBUJoPWK6AAXABeAGQAQCYAVigAbkDqgEBNrgBDMgBAPgBAZgCB6AC1gPCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgIIEAAYgAQYogSYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwE3oAfKFA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp
It's even more interesting when you consider the circumstances of American civilian deaths in WW2. I do not deny neither the fact US military was important factor in the outcome, nor the fact US industry was actually the deciding factor of the outcome of the war. Soviet blood wouldn't mean a thing without American sweat, yet consider following question: as a hapless civilian, with no way to impact the reality you live in, would you prefer to live in the reality of having to work hard in safety or in an occupied land, under constant threat of violence, starvation and absolutely randomlike death? The two biggest chunks of American civilian deaths are sailors serving in the convoys (whose sacrifice also was very important) and American diplomats, businessman and tourists who ignored all the warning sings and failed to leave the countries which were under impending threat of war and got caught in the crossfire. We also need to count American colonies separately fromUS proper - because it's hard to say who's actually guilty here, Japanese or US itself. Hawaii for example was "US soil" for less than 50 years in 1941, and considering the fact this part of the world became part of US in similar way Czechoslovakia became part of Germany in 1938, they definitely should be counted separately; after all Czechs and Slovaks are. Long story short, if we discount those voluntereed to go to war, those who went into war without being conscious about it, and those would prefer not to be part of US in first place, then we get the count of innocent Americans just trying to live their lives and falling victim to circumstances of war against their best wishes. And the count is 6. Six. Six people.
Oh they do . Many live in a ' war zone ' . And they do it to themselves under the moniker of the 2nd amendment ! And the media project fear as if it were a war ...
My grandmother is now 103 yrs old. Born in 1921. She remembers my grandfather going to Germany before my dad was born. Grandpa was lucky. He served for 25 years. Retired a Lt. Col.after going through WW2, the Korean war, and Vietnam as an enlisted man and an Officer. He passed in 1985, but gramma is still with us.
My grandparents were kids when the war was. Grandma told how nazis tried to burn the house they were in and they escaped just because something took their attention from house. And also, one of my teachers survived siege of Leningrad. She was one of the children that was saved through the lake road during winter. She died this spring, i really miss her.
2 of my uncles were forcibly mobilized and taken to Germany for basic training..later they were sent by train together with other soldiers against Russia. one never returned, the other escaped from the train and somehow got to France where he joined the Maki. After the war he came home. Greetings from Slovenia, the former Yugoslav Republic.
Le Maquis.named after the bushes growing in mediterranean wilderness, where you can hide easily. The people who fought in the Maquis were called Maquisards.
The West's biggest problem is that the USSR's losses in World War II are perceived as "Stalin forced everyone, he sacrificed his people." As if if he had not existed, the people would have surrendered very quickly, just to avoid dying. Hence the misconception that you can put pressure on Russia, the people will surrender at the first difficulties. Stalin is no longer there to "force" us to defend ourselves to the end, so we need to put pressure on us and we will surrender. This lack of understanding of the spirit of the Russian people (regardless of nationality) regularly leads to the West's attempts to "defeat" us.
Татаро-монголы, Польша, Швеция, Франция, Османская, Германия. Эти прекрасные своего рода империи объединяет одно - их положение в Мире до и после войн с русскими. Каждый век память у чудиков обнуляется... Американцы, серьезно? 😂 Вы же не знали по-настоящему войн со времен вашей гражданской. Это было 150 лет назад. Режим самовыпила активирован? 🤯
Don't forget that it was a matter of survival, Hitler wanted slav population to be reduced in numbers and used as slaves, because he deemed them unworthy and only be able to serve others. Surrendering and accepting defeat was simply not an option for USSR
No one thinks USSR would have "surrendered at the first difficulties", but isn't it true that without Stalin achieving mass mobilization with brutal methods (of civilians as well), the Nazis would have achieved more strategic victories, leading to who knows what ending? 10-25% of the total population of a country dying in just a couple of years is unfathomable and would break any spirit, no matter how strong. Take into account most people are not soldiers but children, elderly, women, and workers that have to make food and work in factories. What do you mean with "the West's attempts to defeat us"? Call me stupid but what attempts? There's always tension because of capitalism vs communism, oil, nuclear power, more countries joining nato/EU or wanting to, but "attempts"?
This video should be required viewing in ALL schools here in the UK and abroad. I almost couldn't bear it at times, it brought me to tears at the loss of life. But it is so important to remember this time in history and to think more about recent armed conflicts in the world and those going on around us right now. Our young people need to know what happened in the past and be free to have open discussions and form their own conclusions. Thank you Ryan for your honest and moving reaction to this video
My friend from Ukraine had to escape the country, andhis father couldn't. It has been about 3 years since that ear stsrted, and his mother left Ukraine and I always wonder how that affects her relationship with the father. They are old people, most modern relationships in thevwest don't last until the children are grown up, but what does it do to a family that is scattered across the planet due to war? What does it do to people that are married and have to live in different countries for 3 years? I hope they will manage to stay a couple once this is over, or...if it ever is over, but when we talk about the casualties of war, we only talk about the hard numbers, of people that are forever gone. We might have to also remember that we are merely discussing the tip of the iceberg. We don't talk about the trauma a family experiences for losing a child, for people that are displaced and always feel out of place with where they arrived. We never talk about how estranged individuals become so cut off from their own culture ans not accepted into a new one, raising children that don't speak the language you have spoken for a lifetime.
The problem is time, to teach students about that time period with the needed information to understand the full story. Your gonna be talking about almost 50 hours+ not just deaths and war but nationalism, economic powers, technology and the spread of information and the very new worry of appearing to be the good guy to your own people. Combine that with the even bigger worry of cancel culture and the need to force modern cultural norms. History just becomes indoctrination.
I mean, I look at Ukraine and am genuinely shocked by the disregard for human life… All those redditors, influencers, etc, laughing at turret tosses or a BMP going up in flames… It really came home to me when I saw a Russian MI-28 Havoc Gunship have its tail rotor assembly shot off by a star streak AA Missile… And the fact is those two men would do anything and say anything to survive or to get home, especially the pilot, since he’s trying to wrestle control, not seeing he’s not got a tail anymore… It was surprising to me that I was actually relieved to hear the crew had been captured by Ukraine… Like a helicopter is gone and you didn’t kill them, they sit the war out in a rear line camp. But when I see people posting about Orcs (Russian troops) I do rebut them (At risk of social ostracism, but that’s nothing when you consider it) those are sons, uncles, brothers, fathers, grandfathers… Then you look at wars that were recently fought and still had survivors, where the deaths were millions… Beggars belief.
@@smoketinytom you are right it's terrifying. I understand it from the side of the guys on the ground not wanting to think about it in that way as they have people to protect. The act of laughter and sharing is used as a coping mechanism for them. But online discourse about it is terrifying, people forget that everyone there has a family and 1 death is 1 broken family. I remember talking with a Russian before that war even happened he joined the Russian Army as a tanker to fund his new computer he wanted as he loved gaming. It just seems the only people who know how bad war will be are historians and people who have played war strategy games. Not shooters, movies and the like which glorify war. I do think a major power war is coming within the next 30 years as they have forgotten how bad war is. The frustrating part is what's the gain why can't we bring back the right way to wage war and race them to the stars like Apollo did in the 60s. Btw that was true war NASA had a military level budget for 8 years... Mainly as they were developing ICBM tech to go to the moon.
This video is very complacent in its "long peace" view. The narrator is American who - in my opinion - has a skewed world view because he has never directly experienced what the effects of war are. Most people in the USA have no idea of what war is. Even 9/11 only gave them an itsy-bitsy taste of what other people suffer the world over, I (a nearly 70 yo Scot) haven't experienced war directly either, so some may say that I am talking about something I know nothing about. But given what I have heard from family, relatives and friends in Europe, Central and South America, Asia and Africa over the past 70 years, this video distances what actually happened. It talks about fatalities, i.e. dead people. It doesn't talk about the people who lost their spouses, parents or children, It doesn't talk about people who came home crippled or mentally scarred, It doesn't talk about people lost their homes, whose livelihood was destroyed and who had to beg or prostitute themselves to eat. This video is a comfortable "three-times-removed" intellectual view of what happened.
Coming from the US this is also a very rich statement, considering the US is responsibility for most of the civilian casualties after WW2. Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Chile, Iran, Irak, Afghanistan, Syria, Congo, Angola, Indonesia, Argentina and many more.
@@The_real_ArovorTheoretically we can also give the US credit for all deaths caused by their weapon industry fueling wars they aren't otherwise directly involved in.
9/11 is a good example. US only lost 3000 people and then they went on a rampage through the middle east. In Ukraine the Ukrainians eliminated 10,000 Russian speakers from 2014-2022 before Russia went in.. But apparently it was wrong and Russia should protect these people? Western society is largely brainwashed.
The Soviet Union and Communist guerillas fought nazi germany alone for 3 1/2 years. After Stalingrand, when the tide of the war reversed, the Western "allies" moved first to Italy. Take into consideration that Western allies fought mainly against battalions of wounded soldiers from the Eastern front, kids from nazi youth joining the ss, and older soldiers over 55 years old, while at the Eastern front and the guerillas fought against battle hardened ss units and the best units of wermacht
This is not true, possibly just Soviet propaganda. The age and nationality profiles of Nazi soldiers fighting on the Eastern and Western Fronts differed significantly due to the strategic priorities, logistical challenges, and recruitment policies of Nazi Germany during World War II. The Eastern Front required massive numbers of troops due to the vast scale of operations and high attrition rates. As a result, the Wehrmacht deployed soldiers of varying ages. Early in the war (1941-1943), the age profile was relatively standard, with most soldiers aged 18-30, reflecting the core of Germany's pre-war conscription pool. As the war progressed (1943-1945), manpower shortages forced Germany to conscript younger (16-17) and older men (40-50+), as well as members of the Hitler Youth and Volkssturm (local militia). The brutal conditions and high casualty rates meant that younger recruits were often rushed into combat with minimal training. The Western Front, particularly after 1944, saw a less uniform age distribution. Many frontline troops were still in their 20s and 30s, but a significant portion of forces defending the Atlantic Wall and other positions were from older, less combat-ready units, including the Volkssturm and second-tier divisions. Younger soldiers were often kept in reserve or deployed to high-priority areas like Normandy in 1944.
The British Commonwealth declared war on Germany while the Soviet Union was helping Germany invade Poland. Let that sink in. While the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India and South Africa had declared war on Germany, guess what the Soviet Union was doing? They were busy being the aggressors in a completely separate war that they started in Finland. The Soviet Union was as evil as Nazi Germany and what happened to it's people was a result of their barbaric warmongering.
And somehow Americans still think they made the ultimate sacrifice and that they deserve the biggest gratitude for defeating the Nazis and winning the War.
@@Swarzec_Swarzewski Nazis. Beside Germans there were Nazis amongst all kinds of nations, Ukrainians, Poles, Hungarians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Croats etc. As a matter of fact, among those where Nazism as ideology arose quickly and easily even today.
@@markoDbogdanovic It's Germans who attacked my country, people who spoke german, not some blurry ideology. That's how you manipulate history. First changing who attacked, not specific nation, but mistical nazis. I'll let to your imagination what is next step.
@@Swarzec_Swarzewski So you mean that it is German people who are bad and need to be killed ! Fortunately, most people are not racist like you : we see that evil is the ideology : nazism in this case. Nazism is an horrible ideology : in Germany, in Kiev, or anywhere else.
What's really crazy is that all the USA seems to write/care/make movies about are their own involvement - why aren't schools educating them - Ryan shouldn't feel stupid for not knowing stuff - it's partly down to not been taught a more expansive history at school - that's where you can learn at least the bare bones and then if your interest is piqued you can do your own research
the reason is very simple: you are not supposed to question how "clean" the US acted during and especially after every conflict, especially during and after WW2
When I was in public school here in the US this was taught. We had extensive world history classes that were required to graduate. Unfortunately that is no longer the case.
I really like that you are so knowledgeable and open-minded❤And this is an incredible impressive documentary, watched it first, when the great peace was still on...
the great peace? Every year in the last 100 years has seen strife in multiple places somewhere in the world. The UN has a list of ongoing conflicts, which rarely drops below 30.
Internment camps are being touted for US already. Hatred is rife. How can they deport / inter 11 million people? How long before they, too, come up with a "solution". 😪
Yeah, the long peace feels more like a break until the next worst thing. Things could easily fall apart. I think that the fact so many people are losing trust in institutions that brought us to this state of relative peace is what's most dangerous. We are giving power to people who have no respect for history and past mistakes.
I don't know. Nuclear deterrence worked up until now. The first big conflict involving states that own a nuke button will either be much more tame than anything during WW2, or exponentially worse, almost civilization ending.
@@DenshinIshin Ukraine gave up their nukes for security guarantees and look where it got them and now with orange man countries might doubt the commitment of USA common defence and maybe seek nukes themselves. At least it would make sense to me.
Many people think that this won’t or can’t happen again, but we’re still the same people. We’re still just as susceptible to cruelty and nationalism as they were.
Exactly! People thought the same about the First World War, calling it ‘the great war’ little did they know 20 years later it would all be repeated again with significantly worse consequences. Another important thing is in my opinion is to acknowledge that the man who started all this was exactly that a man. to make him seem as if he was some demonic force that could never happen again increases our chances of creating another just like him.
If a war of that degree breaks out then it will be the end of humanity as we know it, weapons have evolved that much that the scale of destruction could affect the whole world.
Both of my grandfathers had to fight on the side of the Nazis, but did not support the ideology. One of them deserted and joined the partisans, where he met my grandmother. The other was incredibly lucky, because his big mouth probably saved his life. He had an argument with one of his superiors and because of that he was transferred to another unit in Bulgaria. His old unit had to go to Russia and very few of them came back.
Same here. Both german grandfathers had to fight. There was no (good) way around it. One made sure to be a horrible soldier, he was always too late and one day that saved his life. His wife fled with a 1yo just before they discovered she was jewish. The other grandpa just surrendered where he could have escaped back to his unit. He was very lucky the greeks were nicer than the nazis and didn´t kill him as a prisoner.
Both my grandpas were fighting in Red Army. One of them liberated Europe, other one China. But today you can't see their struggle in war calling them bad people.
European resistance movements were incredibly international. In Italy each and every partisan group, except those in the cities, had members from all over. In my grandfather's there was an American, an Australian, a Soviet (but not Russian, don't know from where), an Austrian, and a Yugoslavian.
Since this Video got published, we got horrible wars in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Mali, Ethiopia, Jemen, Libanon, Palestine, Myanmar, Ukraine, Arminia,... The death toll among civilians relative to soldiers grew significantly due to new technologies. The Long Peace is definitely over.
but these are so called "new wars", they differ from traditional wars. and the "democratic peace theory" still applies. democracies do not fight other democracies but authoritarian regimes (e.g. russia) fight democracies and terrorist groups fight each other and the regimes in their countries
@@nein9.9 Мммм, какая была охуенная демократия, когда США вторглись в Сирию. Как только кто-то неугоден правительству США, то они тут же вводят войска в страну. Почему никто не видит, что США хочет видеть другие страны своими колониями, кроме России, Китай и пострадавших от США стран?
Even these numbers do not reflect how brutal this time was. I am from Lublin (Poland). My grandmother told me how, when she was a few years old, she collected parts of soldiers' bodies after battles to prevent the spread of the plague.
The horrors of WW2 are difficult to show, so much things happened everywhere at the same time that the only way to make people understand what a mess the world was at the time is by numbers
My grandpa was in Russia. Not Stalingrad, but he was severely injured anyway. Somehow he made it back home on a military plane, but one leg had to be amputated to save his life. None of our family ever was a Nazi or ever will be. But how could anyone have escaped the general draft, or "mobilization"? Deserting was not an option if you didn't have enough money and friends to help you get out. Shame on those leaders who start a war, and shame on those who refuse to end it by negotiations and instead sacrifice human life, wherever it happens on this "pale blue dot" (Carl Sagan) that is our home.
part of my family was from the soviet union and one of them was a soviet soldier during ww2 but the fact that the creator used the word "nazis" still disgusts me
Yeah, shame on your German leaders who started another war in 2014. You will all pay for their decision. And you will whine again how it wasn't possible to "desert".
My father was also in Russia at the age of just 18 and a member of the “Army Group South”. He was also flown out with an injury to his foot and leg, but was able to keep his leg. My grandfather was an active social democrat and was arrested in 1940 and died of "pneumonia" in prison in 1942. My other grandfather was a communist. Not a particularly active one and also a miner in the coalfield, which is why he was not drafted as “war-important specialist personnel” and also had some freedoms that a simple farm worker could not afford. Despite this, we were and still are insulted as Nazis by many foreigners.... that hurts, especially as these people usually have such a low IQ that they would have enthusiastically joined in at the time and with full conviction. And I can see that in many young people today who are roaring and shouting old slogans.... and not in Germany (there too, but rather sporadically because it's a criminal offense), but increasingly abroad. Be it other European countries or the USA, the old brown ghost still roams the minds of people who lack education or who simply want to blame others for their problems. And that scares me! +++ in Deutsch+++ Mein Vater war mit gerade einmal 18 Jahren ebenfalls in Russland und Angehöriger der "Armeegruppe Süd". Er wurde ebenfalls mit einer Verletzung am Fuß und Bein ausgeflogen, konnte aber sein Bein behalten. Mein Großvater war aktiver Sozialdemokrat und wurde 1940 Verhaftet und ist 1942 im Gefängnis an einer "Lungenentzündung" gestorben. Mein anderer Großvater war Kommunist. Kein sonderlich aktiver und zudem Bergman im Kohlerevier, weshalb er als "Kriegswichtiges Fachpersonal" nicht eingezogen wurde und zudem einige Freiheiten hatte die sich ein einfacher Landarbeiter nicht erlauben konnte. Trotzdem wurden wir und werden wir bis heute von vielen Ausländern als Nazi beschimpft.... das schmerzt, zumal diese Personen meist einen so geringen IQ haben das sie damals mit Begeisterung mitgemacht hätten und das aus voller Überzeugung. Und das sehe ich an vielen jungen Leuten die heute wieder gröhlend durch die Gegend ziehen und alte PArolen schreien.... und nicht in Deutschland (da auch, aber eher vereinzelt weil strafbar), sondern vermehrt im Ausland. Sei es das Europäische Ausland oder die USA, das alte braune Gespenst streift noch immer durch die Köpfe von Leuten denen es an Bildung fehlt oder die einfach immer nur andere für ihre Probleme verantwortlich machen wollen. Und das macht mir Angst!
Most german soldiers were volunteers and they democratically elected Hitler into power knowingly what he is capable of. Not every german was nazi but most of them were. ( They didn't elect Hitler because of ww1 consequences, peace theaty was actually not that bad it was due to printing a lot of money that german economy was shit.)
I would like to pitch in with a story of my great grandfather, who took part in war, as a driver in ranks of the Red Army. After the capture of Berlin, he has crushed a car their platoon got from Americans. As the crush happened not in a battle, he feared that he would be executed - that was not a laughing matter in Red Army. Somehow, an American soldiers came to know about that, and one of them offered to swap cars - so he would be blamed for the crush, and my great grandfather would be spared. The funniest part: that whole conversation was basically conducted in a pantomime, because no-one in great grandfather's crew knew English, and that American soldier didn't speak Russian. And, on top of that, that American soldier was the first black person my great grandfather has ever seen in his life. Unfortunately, my great grandfather forgot the name of that American soldier, but because of that selfless action he never believed the Cold War propaganda about "evil Americans". He always knew they are kind people in the essence, even at their own detriment.
An old Italian soldier tells of when, during the Italian retreat from Russia, he knocked on an izba asking for food. He entered, rifle in hand, and found himself in front of a group of soldiers of the Red Army eating. A woman gave him a bowl of milk and millet, while the soldiers continued to eat, he shouldered his rifle and sat at the table to eat with them, then he thanked the woman and left. All this while twenty meters outside the izba Russians and Italians were shooting at each other. Soldiers are human beings, armies are not. In any army, except perhaps the very recent ones, the first thing to do is to dehumanize the soldiers: you cut their hair short, you put them all in the same uniform, you teach them to obey orders, you tell them that the enemy is beasts, you make them all march at the same pace, etc... But when they are sitting at the table in front of a hot dish and it's -20°C outside they are no longer soldiers, they are kids (because that's what they were, kids) who are hungry and cold.
@@nicoladc89 So true. I heard many stories like these from my grandfather. Especially at Christmas, enemies were known to celebrate together, or share food. People are good, it is the forces from top that are evil.
All of these deaths are so sad and senseless. We MUST prevent something like this from ever happening again. There are people who want to take us back to these times
@@debbie541keep your nukes away from Russian borders and you don't have to worry. But no, you don't wanna think for yourself. No critical thinking. Can't even ask yourself simple questions.
My grandfather was 17 years old when he was forced to service… he hated the war.. so many died.. his unit fought in the west and in the east… had heavy losses.. they retreated from the soviets in Hungary..into American captivity.. he and his comrades were not nazis.. they just tried to survive this hell
My grandpa was only 15 years old... He was forced to fight at the front. Together with several others from our tiny village. He was the only one of them to come back! He only spoke to me about it once and it was the only time I ever saw my grandpa cry. That's why it makes me angry and sad when people say that all Germans were Nazis. "Fun" fact: "only" 44% of Germans voted for the NSDAP in 1933
@@kjk8941 I hope it can make you feel better if I say that I'm french and that I know about that. I think most french people know that. I have a lot of compassion for those men in Germany who were forced to fight a war they didn't want.
This video describes the saddest part of my country’s history. What irks me about this video is that the Words Nazi and German soldier are used interchangeably. Most soldiers were not Nazis but to speak up against the system would have been suicide. My grandfather was working for the German Railway and his work was considered “important”. Normally, people like him were not called to the weapons because they had to keep the country going. But my grandfather refused to join the Nazi party. He was offered to choose between joining the party or being sent to Stalingrad. He went to Stalingrad, got severely injured and almost died. He was a social-democrate all of his life. Calling him a Nazi is an insult. Soldiers were between 16 and 60 years old. At the end of the war, young kids from the age of 12 had to fight. German cities got defended by a bunch of scared kids. They were not nazis. All of Europe has suffered terribly. Just as many other party of the world. That’s why Europe has worked so hard to build the European Union. The US have fought several wars since WW2 but never had to fight a war in their own territory. Consider yourselfs lucky!
Yeah look at the kids fighting for russia now. They're kidz tricked into that game. It's always more than 50% of the aggressors are victims of their systems too. Speaking up and protest is less possible than I always thought. I was arrogant in that point. Now I see worldwide how hard it is to form resistance.
The creator adressed this error and apologized for it in the discription of the original video. The video already had an insane amount of views, which lead to the decission to never change its narration and correct this.
Oh bullshit. Don't give me that PC crap - in WWII we didn't fight aliens from the planet Nazion, we fought Germans who fought for German values to build Germany. It wasn't NSDAP, it was everyone in Germany, no matter how now Germans desperately want to convince anyone. For 30+ years the Germans denied their crimes, refused to acknowledge crimes in Poland and today they have the gall to refuse WWII reparation to Poland because "it was them evil Nazis". You wouldn't have hitler without Bismarck, without Goethe, without the Teutonic Order. I'm Polish, I'm not prejudiced against Germans but i despise how history is being twisted to blame the victims.
9:25 "What does that do to a country to lose that many people?" Absolute devastation. Entire villages where the only men were either newborns, or the elderly. Almost every russian family had someone who left for the army or was captured and taken away by german soldiers. The majority never returned home.
Actually my uncle wasn't that traumatized by the war and occupation itself but much more by the aftermath. He witnessed some of the millons of displaced people throughout Europe moving back to what was left of their homes and families, often on foot, starved, injured, diseased, empoverished, horrified, broken. That took years, this is almost entirely forgotten about and of course relatively insignificant, it's just an illustration of the scale of the devastation that even the immediate aftermath when peace was achieved was such horrible scene.
We are still digging out those bombs the allied forces dropped on our cities. It's a vivid memory of what happend, even if the people who witnessed it are dying out.
This weekend 2 big WWII bombs will be dismantled in an area near here. Luckily the location is quite rural and locals are ordered to stay inside their homes. The bombs were discovered while expanding the highway.
In France they are sill unearthing munitions from WW1. In Northern Ireland (I think) recently, an unexploded German bomb was detonated. The reminders are still everywhere, yet we sound surprised when an incident happens.
My father fought in Europe, US Army 11 ArmDiv. ‘44 until wars end then stayed in Austria until discharged in Jan. ‘46. His oldest brother, my uncle, was a B-17 pilot and survived. Next oldest brother was a B-24 pilot and died in ‘43.
The Canadians were left out of all the countries. Why? We were in the war a year before the Americans. We liberated the Netherlands. My Grandpa lost a foot due to shrapnel. We had many soldiers die.
We in the Netherlands are very grateful to the Canadian and British soldiers for liberating us. I was born in Arnhem. My grandparents experienced the Second World War. My grandparents taught me from an early age that I should be grateful to our liberators for our freedom. Otherwise I would never have been born. May 4, Remembrance Day is still very important for many Dutch people. I also told my children, be grateful to them. And I am so happy that they were able to personally thank veterans when they visited Arnhem for the activities around May 4 and 5. The veterans remain very modest about it, in their eyes it was kind of normal. just do what needed to be done. Until I said no, it's not normal, you are our liberators and if it weren't for you, these boys wouldn't have been there. 2 veterans had tears in their eyes. And they thanked us. Because we continue to pass the story on to our children. The boys are now 23 and 22 years old. And they still commemorate our liberators. And they are very interested in this war, read a lot about it and watch a lot of documentaries about it. Just like me as a young girl. Find out as much as possible about it. Because we now have to ensure that it is not forgotten. Now I live in a village 5 km from Arnhem. Westervoort on the IJssel, this is where Operation Quick Anger started. An operation that played a major role for Market Garden. It's been 80 years now. We will never forget! Greetings from the Netherlands ❤
They grouped canada with Britain as a colony. Not technically accurate in WWII but if this was a continuation of WWI then it would allow the graphics to make more comparable sense
It's difficult, if not impossible,to know for sure the number of death's, especially civilian. There were no computers back then. People's registries were on paper,stored in buildings that were destroyed. So there is no record they ever existed. Entire family trees wiped out from existence and from memory.
My great grandmother lost her fiance in the war. She also spent her 21st birthday under the kitchen table because of the Blitz. She also was a firefighter in the war. She died in 2020 at 100 and because of COVID. She married my great grandfather, who served in WW2 - he drove a tank and everyone on the tank died except him. He managed to escape when an ally tank passed by and he grabbed hold of them. The tank exploded. He lost an eye, and had to have reconstructive surgery on a lot of his body, including his face. At the time, the surgery was experimental. Remarkably, he didn't lose any limbs. He died from dementia about 25 years ago (I never got to meet him). He had a few different types of dementia, largely believed to have been caused by all the trauma when he served. He died with shrapnel still in his back because they couldn't remove all of it. Here are some stories I've been told about him: Despite everything he went through, apparently he was so much fun. He used to make people play croquet up a hill (he's on my maternal side, and my mum is 1 of 4, so he had a lot of fun with them, and used to try and freak them out by putting his glass eye in a glass)! He once was organising a party (cannot remember what the occasion was), but made everyone play 'Guess Who', and he was the one that chose the names. After about 30 minutes of everyone trying to guess who the heck they had (and everyone was a little tipsy), they all finally gave up and asked who these people were that they had to try and guess. Well, my grandfather goes, "I don't know, I got their names out of the phone book!" While he was serving/training at an army camp, he once couldn't be bothered to manoeuvre the tank around the roundabout (he was the driver), so he just went straight over it. Another time he was fed up with the drills being so early (while he was serving), so in protest he decided he'd go and do it in his pyjamas. Turned out it wasn't a drill, and he had to send back someone to get his uniform. The guy sounded like a wonderful man, and I wish I met him. My great grandmother was a widow for over 20 years, but she wore her wedding and engagement ring up until the day she died. I have a lot of stories with family members who served. For example one of them was in the Great Escape, and he managed to make his way out of the tunnel before the officers caught them, but his best friend who was a few people in front, didn't, and he died as a result. My family still have letters from him when he served. The same goes for my great grandfather.
I understand you want to differentiate the individuals from the group, I guess partially because you don't won't to be seen as one just for being German. However I don't think the expression is unfair, if you are a soldier following orders it doesn't really matter if you believe the ideology behind those orders, you are still doing it. Yes I understand they were forced, maybe even under death penalty but it's still a choice that every individual had.
The same as innocent russian soldiers going to die in Ukraine today? They have carried weapons and were shooting from those weapons... everyone who did that was nazi.
@@kebrus If you are under threat of death, you do NOT have a choice. You cannot deny a human being their instinct of survival. Most soldiers did not believe in the ideology per sé but simply grew up with the *Prussian* tradition of (military) discipline and being subservient to authority. That's one of the reasons the state of Prussia (which had already been _de facto_ defunct after the Preußenschlag of 1932) was dissolved by the Allies after the war. These people didn't know the things we do.
The end of the video would have a very different tone if it was made a few years later. The so called long peace is certainly over. How far we fall remains to be seen, but with recent developments I don't see a peaceful future, things might get much worse.
The most recent event trump getting elected. trump promises to end the war with Ukraine (which does not seem likely) and based on his actions in his last term, he'll probably help flair up a war with Iran instead. 😞 And intensifying the conflict with China, but that probably is hard to prevent.
True, but from a different angle, the past few years have proven that Russia no longer has the military power to wage a major war against a developed country let alone an alliance of developed countries. The real threat is China, which I already see as a powder keg. They have claims against several countries, very confrontational with a much bigger population and more up-to-date military. Though I still think China has a similar corruption problem as Russia which diminishes their actual combat power compared to what the world expect from them. Just not to the same degree as Russia.
I grew up with ww2 movies. Then, most were about how the US won all of it by being that good. Well, movies were made in Hollywood, they would be. And some were even humoristic. Then Roger Waters brought out the song 'The Ballad of Bill Hubbard', basically an interview excerpt with the last surviving UK soldier from ww1, put to music. Yeah. That puts you in your place. Bill's deceased now, naturally. It wasn't all glory and food for fun. It wasn't glorious, it was fighting against evil. Mustard gas was the least of it, and we did that as well as 'them'. There are still areas in northern France you can't enter, let alone live in. That's what we did. Not 'them', we. All of us.
My grandfather was injured in the war, which saved his life, because as a "Kradmelder" you most likely won't survive for long. He got a few bullets in his body. One on the side of his belly, one in his butt (which is always funny in movies, but not so much in real life) and one in his leg, which later on had to be amputated under his knee. With all that wounds he had to lay on the ground for hours until he got rescued. That he even survived all those injuries was because he was able to get to a lot of whine in the hospital and the alcohol preserved him, or so he said at least. He often had problems with the prothesis, as the materials weren't as good as today and so his leg got inflamed and what not. But still the wound in his butt (on the side of the good leg) was a bigger problem for him for the loss of a good portion of muscle there. My grandfather was a Nazi I think as he joined the FPÖ, which was the successor of the NSDAP, but we never talked about it. The FPÖ to this day is the party to the extreme right here in Austria. Though for US standards they would be at best left of the middle of the political spectrum there, if not very left. However, calling all German oldiers Nazis is not fair. You had no say in the matter once you are drafted. And most certainly many many of them were not actual Nazis.
If you notice there's a spike in American deaths in 1942 then nothing until 1943. This is because American soldiers were sent to fight in North Africa in 1942 after causing trouble among the locals in the UK. This highlighted just how badly trained American soldiers were, hence why they had to undergo 6 months of training in the UK before being sent into battle. Basically, the American's idea of fighting was to throw everything at the problem and hope they had more men and guns than the enemy.
UK also wanted to train Polish pilots, especially in English language. But then it turned out British pilots should learn from Poles, and Polish pilots eventually were decisive in winning the Battle of Britain.
@@rotmistrzjanm8776 I don't know where you heard that from, but no they didn't. American troops were mainly used as support and relief troops for the allied forces. When they did actually fight it was always alongside allied troops to keep them in check.
Since first seeing this it's been one of the best videos on UA-cam, so powerful and important. Plus now we can compare, the US lost fewer soldiers during the war than Russia has lost so far in its war with Ukraine.
А откуда вы знаете потери России? Насколько я зная, потери считаются после войн, так как во время войн, работает пропаганда, занижая свои и завышая вражеские потери
@@worchestershiresauce8200 Nobody ever tried to hide that, we were taught about the British bombing campaign on Germany in our history classes at school!? Nobody is innocent in a war!
My town in the south of the Netherlands, bordering Germany, was accidentally bombed by the Brits. As they wanted to bomb a target in Germany, and hit my town instead. Some bombs hit the street I grew up in decades later. And a former occupant of a house I lived in, was one of the people who lost their lives. So it doubly victimized the people living in a German occupied country.
Exactly the US and UK bombed Germany every night for years. But as my dad told me, a WWII Veteran, the Nazis and Japan wouldn't give up no matter how much bombing, so what do you do? War is a dirty business, I'm also a combat veteran of Afghanistan.
I live near the Huertgen forest in Germany. The Germans won the battle of the Huertgen Forest and when US retreated, Germany started the Ardennes offence (the Ardennes are next to the Huertgen Forest). They are still finding remains of dead soldiers in the Huertgen Forest and nearby every year. About 40,000 US troops(and 35,000 Germans) died in the Huertgen forest in only a few months. The movie "when Trumpets fade" is about the battle of the Huertgen Forest and is well-made.
I found this comparison interesting... the US suffered some serious casualties on D Day with 2500. That made me think of the impending collapse of the Swedish Empire, which began at Poltava, in today's Ukraine, where the Carolean Army faced the Russian... Sweden had been at war for a long time by then, the army battle-hardened but exhausted, consisting of 20 000 infantry and several thousand cavalry faced off against Russia on the field outside of Poltava; the mission was to take the Russian tsar. In the battle 6 000 Swedish infantry died, thousands captured and what was left of said army fled south, towards the Ottoman Empire, where they would remain, in Bender, for quite some time before being able to return to Sweden again. The king, Karl XII, never saw Stockholm again after Poltava, as he was KIA in Norway at, Fredriksten fortress, in Halden in 1718.
My boss is 64 and doesn’t remember the iron lungs on tv with polio. I’m 77 and the newspaper and tv reports of kids paralyzed, surviving in iron lungs is firmly implanted on my mind. I got the polio vax in 1955 or thereabouts. It was wonderful, I was 7 but I knew how amazing it was. Think I’d already had chickenpox, measles and diphtheria, my brother was a year older, so whatever he had, I got. Now we have an anti Vaxer nominated for hhs. Please America, NO
Over 3 million Indians died..yet no one cares to remember them. Indians starved to death as their food was snatched to feed the war machine in Europe. About 90,000 Indian soldiers fighting this war...
I think India's casualties were added to the Britain's death count, as the British Raj didnt end until after WW2, the video stated that the colonies were counted towards Britain's death count
@fippodegyeoolies3629 You are so right, Indians, Australians, New Zealanders Canadians, South Africans and any “Empire” Troops were all just lumped in as British. While the video was very interesting. It would be great if the American maker had taken the time to recognise the contributions made by the rest of the world. Most of the “British” casualties in the Asian theatre were probably not from the UK.
I cried when I first saw the numbers illustrated, the weight of it all just hit me. If you are interested to know more about the japanese atrocities in Asia I would recommend watching "Playing the Victim | Historical Revisionism and Japan" by Knowing Better
My dad recently interviewed a 94 year old lady for a local history book his friend is writing. I was thinking about contacting my old school and try to see if we could get her to talk in front of some classes. I'm definitely gonna try now, I need the kids to hear this while these witnesses are still here
they leave many million civilian deaths in the Middle East and Africa. More than 3 million Iranian death during the Iranian Famine while they were occupied by the UK and Soviets. Iran was an important transport corridor for allied material support of the Soviets.
6:50 at the parties height in 1944 their was just over a million Nazi's (the 6th army in Stalingrad was largely just regular German soldiers), this video got a lot of diserved flack as it labeled every german soldier a nazi regardless of the fact that most wasn't part of the political party and was a mix of people wanting to fight for their nation and conscripts, as is often pointed out calling every German of the time a nazi is like calling every American a democrat as that was the political leader/political party in charge at the time, this wasn't true then and it isn't true today.
It's the same thing, and that someone told you what to call them is your problem. It is, will be and will remain and you won't change it with your strange narrative.
Years ago I visited a former concentration camp in Mauthausen, Austria, together with some guests from another country. The concentration camp is now some kind of museum so you can get a glimpse of the horrors from when it was active. From where I live its a 2 hour drive. We had a lot of fun in the car on our way to Mauthausen. On our way back though, the mood was really heavily muted. Everybody was quiet and sad and horrified. It made a deep impression on all of us.
if you think about the hospital patients burned alive in their beds in Palestine recently you'd be gloomier still. We can't do anything about happened decades before we were born but we don't have to remain silent about what is happening now.
I had an older father (his was in his 50s when I was born and almost 60 when my younger brother was born), my dad was born in 1928 and he passed away last year at the age of 95. I never asked him about WW2 but he did tell stories about it. I remember when as a kid when I didn't like the food he would say something referring to WW2 and said stuff like "We were lucky that we could eat flower bulbs and most of the time we hadn't have anything to eat at all" and he would said that I should be ashamed when not "liking the food" . As a small child I was like "what ever" and didn't really understand. He raised me and my sibblings to be tough and not to complain and or give up. Many of my friends who had wayyyy younger fathers lost their fathers earlier than I did (and their grandparents were always younger than my dad LoL). People who are born in or before WW2 are one of the strongest people I know. My dad worked till he passed away. Worked harder than almost any one my age even when he was almost 90 (he worked 7 days a week!). I remember last year when the war started in the east he was devastated and he said all those lifes are lost and are going to be lost, it was kinda weird for me cause ofcourse he didn't like wars but this time his reaction was so strong, but when he suddenly passed away (out of no where) about 1,5 weeks later, I understood..It comforts me that he does not have to see all that anymore and what the world has become since (all the deaths and terror). RIP Dad....
You are correct. My father was 12 when WW2 started. He joined up when he was 16 or 17 (he may have lied about his age). He died in 2023 at 96 years old. Towards the end he suffered from Vascular Dementia (mostly loss of memory, couldn't remember his wife sister or mother) I took him to a group meeting. They were asked what they remembered about the war. He could only remember one thing and it was vivid to him. He could just remember feeling scared, all the time. He had lost most other memories, but could always feel that memory.
The whole "proportion of the world population" is always good to keep in mind. A lot of people died, but there's also an incredible amount of humans on earth today. The further you go back the more extreme those population dips were due to a low total population. When there were only 10k humans on earth total, an unlucky flood could have caused a comparable loss in terms of percentage as a world war in the 20th century.
We visited a large WW2 cementary on our freedom day. almost 7000 graves of mostly young Canadians, Britts and Americans. Walking around, reading the ages on the crosses, trying to get a concept of the numbers and realising you are only seeing a microscopic percentage of the total amount that have perished will make you go quiet instantly. A whole generation of young men that have died protecting the people and country they love and have liberated people they didn't know.
There are also weird side effects. You might not count things like civilians dying of dysintery during that time, but they maybe should be, because the reason for peace has not been removed.
I'm forever connected to WWII as I was raised by a concentration camp survivor who told me all her horrendous stories, starting when I was such a young age. My grandmother was a Jewish Polish survivor and out of her whole family only herself and a her brother survived. The things she told me were absolutely terrible, not something a child should be exposed to but she had nobody else to speak to since her husband died in 1959.
nice t see an american learn that. there only war is glorified and they learn a false narative of world wars. young country just needs to do a global libary share
My great-grandparents were aged between 10 and 26 during WW2, and had a variety of experiences. Most notably my paternal great grandfather (my father’s father’s father) was a British marine during D-Day. He was part of the advance team tasked with securing what is now known as Pegasus Bridge. He was blinded in one eye during the battle and witnessed unspeakable horrors. They truly gave their tomorrow for our today- Brits, Soviets, Americans, Chinese, those from British and French colonies, resistance fighters from across Europe and Asia, and many more. My great-grandfather lived into his 60s with a successful career as a dockworker and raising a family. Rest in Peace Herbert John Rogerson.
My grandfather was a conscientious objector, but still wanted to serve his country, he ended up being a part of the team who repatriated bodies on D-Day+3. He never, ever spoke about it, but he insisted that when he died, he was to be cremated, not buried. Thankfully he got his wish. He was a kind, gentle man, and I wish I knew him better.
i'm french, I'm glad i've known my great grandparents, they told me crazy stories during the war that i will never forget, one of my great grand father was at a farm one time, taking some rest, saw a german soldier, without any hesitation, without knowing anything about the guy, took his rifle and shot him, then went for a nap. This made me understand what war is, no more rules, no more mercy, it's either you or them, if you want to survive you have to kill, no rest time, danger is everywhere and peoples betray each other in order to survive. May peace find us, so Humanity can finally unite towards the same goals.
19:00 The pure amount is shocking of WW2 Victims. But 40m of Mongol conquest by a world population of around 400m that time is insane. All the numbers are just insane.
That's mostly right, but there are a few oversights. The main oversight is that World War II started in 1937, when Japan invaded China. It was a long and slow-moving war, mostly because China is huge, but also because China had split into two factions (very loosely, nationalists and communists) that were mostly unable to work together against the Japanese. The figure of 10 - 20 million civilian deaths in the Soviet Union is probably just a best guess. Some estimates put the figure as high as 30 million.
This video is very well done. You see the losses of life as numbers on a page, and you might THINK you get it. But that is nothing compared to how those same losses are shown here. I feel like this should be required viewing for any class anywhere that is learning 20th century history..
Now you can see why it´s such a big deal in Germany to say "Never again" and why we´re not so much waving flags like in the US. Yes it is teached in school but in this video the graphics shock even more. Hope the world takes alot care that no weard tyrann and dictator does that again. Sadly the UN is doing a bad job in it.
@@ThomasPaysen-Delleske I believe he was referencing your election last week. You effing idiots elected a man that wishes he had Hitler's generals.( not understanding that hitler's generals tried to assassinate him 3 times ) that has directly quoted Hitler numerous times. Your country claimed a LOT of glory after WWII, but you came to the party almost 3 years after it started. Back in the late 30's and early 40's, there was a very strong Nazi movement in the US. The ONLY reason you entered the war was you got a wake up call from Japan.
I can't get over how people are arguing over which country lost more people in World War II the countries were called Allies which means it doesn't matter when or who comes and helps in time of War it was the end result that mattered my family lost a great grandfather and two of his brothers in World War II and where Australian all that should matter is remembering those men and women he did everything they could to give us and their countries are future 12:28
The "long peace" section was before Ukraine and Palestine, but I'm surprised it didn't mention the Balkan wars as wars in Europe. The narrator was right about the general trend though - long may it continue.
@@LovelyLikeThis. we did not ask for your political opinion here . there is a conflict between those two region , who is right and who is wrong does not matter , just the fact that it is happening and people are dying
@@LovelyLikeThis. He never said it was a country but you should ask why it's not. Israel and the US have blocked resolutions to form a Palestinian state at the UN for decades despite claiming to not be occupying them.
Please add a link to the original videos in the description so we can like and share them. Otherwise it's unfair to the creators. Greetings from Old Germany. We love our history, but even for us, the two world wars are extreme indictments for the whole world. This example should serve as a lesson to us all for eternity.
I'm annoyed because this video completely ignored Finland. About 96,000 Finnish people died, which was about 2.5% of the total population. My mother was a child during the war. She never talked much about it, but she told some stories. Once, when she was walking home from school with a friend, the air alarms started. They hid in a ditch. They saw Russian planes flying over them; they were flying very low, but they didn't drop any bombs that time. When the alarm was over, the girls got up and continued walking home as usual. There aren't many war veterans alive any more, or those who were old enough during the war to remember much about it. But we all have heard the stories.
@fippodegyeoolies3629Get over it, it's about the staggering numbers of deceased using the well known narrative as reference. At least 225 000 people in my not mentioned country were killed, with almost 75% of the Jewish population exterminated and the same goes for many more countries. For what it's worth we love the Canadians for their sacrifice in our liberation
@fippodegyeoolies3629 you have no idea how many Americans who love history know and understand what the Canadians did during the war. We appreciate what you guys achieved at the time.
@@nelltheretrogamer I believe it is not mentioned because Finland didn't fight the Nazis. The main focus was the world vs the Axis powers (mainly Germany and Japan) Did you know, there's a plague at Karolinska Institute in Stockholm commemorating the Finnish soldiers that were treated there between 1939-1945 from Sotainvalidien Veljesliitto as a thank you. 🇫🇮🤝🏻🇸🇪❤️
As a 21 year old living in Poland, now facing great threats of war right again, this video (as you can probably imagine) was incredibly important to me. Just to know in what state our country was for a long tie after, and how many of us died, knowing the stories of my great grandparents and their children its just insane how greatful I am for you for displaying how devestatng it was especially for Poland. thank you from the bottom of my heart, till this very day I did not know the numbers myself. not to that extent
You face nothing. Russia wants nothing from the Europe, stop listening to lies. Ukraine tried very, very hard to get to this point, intentionally. There will be no march to the west as your media tries to tell you, there is nothing to gain from it, only losses.
My grandfathers had very different experiences of the Second World War. My maternal grandfather was forcibly sent to Germany to work after the surrender of France. He found himself on a boat on what is now the Polish border, without speaking a word of German. It was very hard, and once he fell into the water and almost drowned because he couldn't swim. Nevertheless, he was lucky enough to fall in with a sympathetic family, whose son had gone off to fight on the Russian front. He was eventually freed by the Russians, but found himself walking until he was exhausted. With two other Frenchmen, they fled and found refuge on a German farm, where they worked for food and shelter. When my grandfather finally returned to France, he had new French and German friends and had promised himself to learn German. He kept in touch with the German family until the Berlin Wall was built. My paternal grandfather's story is more unfortunate: at the age of 19, he became a member of the Resistance. One day, he had gone to his parents' house to do his laundry when his Resistance camp came under attack. All his companions were killed, and he had to flee to the South of France because a neighbor had denounced him to the Nazis. Long after the war was over, he was still traumatized and didn't want his children to wear their hair like the Germans, for example. But my father learned German, and my name, my grandfather's name, is German too.
Some years ago during the National Alpini gathering, I met one of the latest partisan still alive. My friends and I offered him a glass of wine while he told us what it was like to live those moments. A piece of advice to all young people, talk to these people, have them tell you about them, no video, no history lesson, can make you understand how much a story told by someone who has lived through those things. And the scariest thing is not the big events, but the small ones. I remember my grandmother - born in 1936 - who even as an old woman told about the time a German soldier gave her a small single-serving package of jam, she had never seen one, she described it as one of the best moments of her childhood. The grandfather of a friend of mine had a phobia of the empty refrigerator until the end of his days, he had suffered so much from hunger during the Italian campaign in Africa that he couldn't stand to see the empty refrigerator. And we complained about the lockdown. P.S. Soon there will be no one left of those who were alive then.
Great animation and very humane commenting! Yet, I'd like to note that it's extremely difficult to collect and verify data over such a wide topic. Particularly, may I notice that information about Soviet history is poorly available in English and mainly was presented by publications made after USSR had crashed, by the powers that weren't interested to reflect Stalin's regime in the best or true colors. Neither for local public nor for international. That may describe the emphasis on the GULAG and not mentioning of the genocide nature of many of civil Russians' deaths in the camps along with the Jews. But, anyway, the delivery is extraordinarily impressive and clear!
As a German I have often heard "you have to move on, you are a different country now" but if you look at these numbers how can you just move on? Of course I am not responsible for what happened, but I am responsible for what will happen. I understand why many in my country are very careful about escalation with Russia, I feel it, even though I disagree. Its a democracy, my opinion matters just as much as the others.
"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it"
Happening right now.
And there are people who create their own history and by that repeat it again.
And the USA moron voters have now put the USA at the start of "THE IGNORANT REPETITION".
I am calling it. 16 Nov 2024. AEDT. PUBLISHED.
M 🦘🏏😎
And yet Trump gets elected.
@@TukikoTroy It's scary, man. I'm genuinely getting worried lately.
Right after the war, when asked who contributed most to Allies victory, French people responded in large majority the USSR. 10 yrs later, same answer. 70yrs later, the same question was asked and this time French people answered in majority the US.
How living and growing up through the events really differ from living and growing up with how the events are depicted in movies...
Yes it was the USSR specifically Russia that stopped the Nazi's not the US !
"we are all living in America" - Rammstein's song Amerika
American propaganda is very very strong, and global. Their movies, tv series, video games, documentaries, etc
Because in fact without lend-lease the USSR would have lost the war..
Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and intermediary between Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed directly the significance of Lend-lease aid in his memoirs:
I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so
I bet most of those French people are teenagers. Don't worry, once they grow up reality will hit them
6:41 i’m russian and ones an old grandma lived in the same house as my family. she was a teenager in Stalingrad battle. she told horrible stories about mountains of bodies - every day new mountains appeared. she was a battle nurse. all of neighbours gathered to listen those stories. many were crying
To assault a souverain state is always a crime like the Allies fixed at the Nürnberg Trial - Germany was guilty. Every time I hear about how all the victims who suffered so much it make me feel sad and sick - believe me. Greatings from Germany.
Yeah and right now your country's military doing the same in some ukrainian citys, Mariupol as an example while majority of your population doesn't seem to care enough to try and stop this, your own relatives serving in army funded by your taxes. And so many among them are even cheering to keep going.
Very sad for your experience of not taking lessons from your past.
@@Sarfixell stfu didn't ask
@@Sarfixell bro, it's unbelievebly easy to -пиздеть- speak how people just can stop this bullshit, but it seems you just don't understand what you're speaking about either from childish naivety or stupidity. There were mass protests, some people ruined whole their life just to stay in the street, but the only thing they got were fines, dismissals, inprisonment, torture or death. The fact is armed and organized people are much stronger than unarmed and disorginized. The state crushes any attempts of open disobeyance. If you want a demo of "staying in russia with "peace to world" poster", you can attack any police officer. Effect will be kinda similar. Maybe more hurch in Russia with probability of broken bones and court absolutely on police side whatever they do. And if for some unknown reason you don't want to get such consequences, then I wouldn't say you have any right to judge people for doing the same. It's very sad that there are people, who were washed by propaganda and now believe in some -racial- supremacy, that this is somehow "defensive" war, that we need to repeat "going to Berlin and then to Paris". But this is not majority. Majority is just scared. Majority can't do anything against armed people who are loyal to the regime as the regime works just to make life of authorities and security forces good. And yeah, West does pretty awful job to end the war. They sponsor the war by buying Russian oil, send not enough help to Ukraine while being able to send so much to end this war much faster, but europeans and americans don't fking care about ukrainians, so they aren't ready to sucrifice their own quaility of life even a little. Instead West makes absolutely useless sanctions, which harm not the state, not the military machine, but the regular people, so it's the West who encourages people to support Putin, as if everyone in the world hates and harms you when personally you did absolutely nothing wrong as most Russians just living their boring lifes, then you just have to go to the only person not harming you and saying you're good.
@@Sarfixell do you really think we want that? except for a bunch of morons
I guess, now you see, why the whole world cringes and feels insulted when they hear Americans say: "We won WW2!"
That's a gross oversimplification of the US contribution to the war, even before direct involvement the US was supplying the Allies with astronomical amounts of weapons, material, and supplies. The Soviets themselves have said without the lend lease Russia would have fallen. Meanwhile the US was engaged in two battlefronts simultaneously. As Patton said "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country"
Its not even that, obviously there was more than manpower involved in defeating Nazi Germany, but its cringewrothy just the fact that people these days that have nothing to do with what happened, made zero contribution (because they were alive) are somehow trying to insult or "take credit" for something they had 0 part in. While people lost their lives protecting their family and nation..Every single partisan, uprising that got shut down..All these people lost their lives just so some retard behind a keyboard almost a century later can say "We won WW2"
If 'We' means United Nations collectively then it's absolutely correct. United Nations BTW was the official title of the allied forces during WW2. The later organization just inherited the name during it's establishment.
Americans beat Japanese. Not the Germans..They haven't won a war yet. Korea run away, Vietnam run away, Iraq run away, Afghanistan run away..
@@Megalomaniakaal that's not what they mean and you know it
This is why it's kinda hurtful when I hear American people talk only about their involvement and their losses during these wars, completely ignoring everyone else :( Same goes when victory is discussed, it was a team effort. The Canadians did so much for my hometown!
@@lolololol7573 Hurtful? It’s hilarious. Americans sitting in safety over there, growing rich on war profiteering and only sweeping in as one ally of many at the very end, with minimal losses. And STILL bragging about it, thinking they were all that. It’s pathetic, is what it is.
Thank you. My grandfather was Canadian Navy and refused to ever speak a word of anything he handled during ww2 - all we know was he served.
@@selenawolf2466 My paternal grandfather joined the US army as an 18 year old in late 1944 I think (he had like 6 brothers who all served, Wisconsin farm boys). He participated in the Philippines campaign and Okinawa and was later deployed to Nagasaki (or Hiroshima I forget which) in the occupation. My maternal grand father enlisted in the Royal Canadian Navy, in 1944 I think he was 18 as well, and he arrived in Europe on his first deployment just as the war ended. His wife's brother, my Great Uncle, was in the 1st Canadian division, and fought at Ortona. I personally never really spoke to him about it as I was very young and didn't really meet him that many times, but he wasn't shy when he was drunk according to family members.
yeah then ask the canadians to make a movie about WWII from their point of view.... The americans are telling their point of view of the war, ofcourse its centered on them what they know... but you know what the Russians for example wont say in their wwII movies? they wont say how the americans supplied the Russian armies with guns, bullets, food, even trucks, socks and shoes for their soldiers.... also they will talk about the bravery of their troops and how many more of them died than the americans, sure, but they wont say that americans actually cared a bit at least about their losses and their strategies were though on losing as less people as possible while actually making the enemy lose more soldiers, while the Russian strategies were more like... Meh, just send soldiers until they ran out of soldiers first... Also the Russian wont tell you about the trail of rapes and random execution left behind by the soldiers to the point people were so scared that they started evacuating on ships, and a ship packed with 9000 people, mostly civilians was sunk by a russian sub, and after that the russians droped deep charges on top of the wreck to destroy it.
yeah its almost disgusting and disrespectful to even hear when americans say we won the war thanks to us.
Probably one of the most intelligent questions asked in a while. “What does it do to a country to lose so many people?” Thank you, Ryan.
Here in Australia we lost like 1/4 of young men... Many in theatres so far from home .... Massive massive cost on families and society.... My grand dad was an aircraft mechanic and had to wash dead pilots out of planes so they could get them to fly again. His dad before him was gassed in europe. War affected these wonderful men terribly two generations of men traumatized.... That flows through a family .... And when many families experience it then there is a massive affect.
I am so damn angry that war is still with us. The children of the middle east of Ukraine of the war affected regions of Africa .... Trauma is not right
Exactly, so I can’t blame Russia for invading Ukraine now, after the West betrayed all previous agreements, used peace deals only to better arm Ukraine and gain time, and couldn’t care less for the killing and discrimination of Russophones by Kyiv. They sure don’t want to have their enemies in Stalingrad again, it’s only logic they made a move in advance this time. Russia will never be my enemy, forever glory to them !
Yes my grandfather was a part of the Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire regiment, he was sent to Singapore in Feb of 1942, it fell in 10 days and then for the next 4 years, he was a prisoner of war shuttled around building a damn bridge, death march, then placed on the Maru warships and finally sent to Japan in a camp where he saw even more atrocities. 4 years before he came home. Out of 340+ soldiers in our community, less than 50 came home
France had already lost so many in the first world war. If they continued fighting against the german invasion, they would have very few men to keep populations up post-war. It was too costly. They surrendered this one time to try to save the people and have been labeled cowards ever since. Pretty unfair!
@@Liquessenand just after 2nd work war we, French, been involve in Indochine war (500000) then Algerian war (4000000). Nobody put that in perspective
This why Europeans get so upset by America saying it saved Europe. America has no idea what the war in Europe was like. America did not suffer the amount of civilian casualties that Europe and Asia did. The American civilian population was insulated from the horrors of WWII and for most of the war carried on as normal. America civilians need to wise up about what war actually does.
True, but there were still tenths of thousands of American 18-year olds running into machine gun fire at the Normany landing. That was crucial to ending the war and the sooner it ended the sooner the killing stopped. They were also crucial in Asia. It is their part of the story and it is a big part.
@@DenUitvreter and hundreds thousands Poles. And millions Ukrainians, Belarussians etc , so what's your point
@@DenUitvreter And hundreds of thousands had been doing for three years before America even entered the war. Your point typifies how America makes out it was the great hero, they assume nobody else suffered deaths at the rate they did, Others did and in greater numbers. They had been suffering for years. And if we talk about D-Day, there were more British and Canadian troops than there were Americans.
@@MaoZhu-j6q I'm just saying they are entitled to their heroic story as part of a much greater story. I'm okay with them taking their perspective, not with acting like there is no greater story they are just a (important) part of.
a big part of it is, 2 american civilians died due to foreign bombings. thats it. thousands died in the blitz. millions in the holocaust. all those people, who werent even soldiers.
Knowing the history and numbers, it is especially funny and sad to watch Hollywood movies in which the victory in WW II is exclusively the merit of the Americans and the British, while Eastern front and the USSR has nothing to do with it and not mentioned at all. Every day, year after year, more and more people begin to believe in this, as only a few read history books, while billions watch Hollywood movies.
The same happens in reverse, if anything even more commonly. Unfortunately, that tends to happen when there's a big divide between nations and they fought right after.
American industry produced more war materials than all other countries combined. The US 100% did win the war.
True but without the enormous supply from the US to the USSR they would habe lost.
@@Infiltator2 Once again don't make it look like the US was the only one who helped, England helped as well and not less, they even built tanks for them.
Without aid USSR would struggle longer and lost more? - sure, no doubt. Would they lost war? - very unlikely. There was plenty of territory for retreat and prolonging the war, and the entire industrial complex was located far to the east in Siberia.
ps: btw if we are playing "what if", how about this - how successful would the German offensive have been in first years of war if the US had not sold them oil? Much of the air bombing of Europe was only possible because of US oil supplies. Luftwaffe literally ran on American fuel.
@@wakkadakka9192
The nature of how the oil supply worked made that a possibility but to imply it was done deliberately is factually false.
Мне хочется ответить по-русски, потому что я не совсем представляю, как написать об этом на другом языке. Есть такое понятие, как "эхо войны" (по крайней мере, в таком названии я об этом слышала). Во время Второй мировой (в СССР она получила название Вторая Отечественная война) погиб или пострадал каждый третий, не было ни одной семьи, которой бы война не коснулась, из всех миллионов, живших на территории республик. И так началось эхо войны. Погибшее поколение - 20-летние парни и девушки - никогда не вернулось домой и не родило детей. Спустя 20-30 лет их неродившиеся дети тоже не оставили потомков. Спустя еще 20-30 лет, их неродившиеся внуки не родили правнуков. Третье эхо еще и наложилось на распад СССР, после которого всем образовавшимся странам пришлось долго восстанавливаться. В конце 90-х могли не открываться детсады и школы, потому что детей просто было недостаточно.
В России Великую Отечественную войну продолжают помнить и стремятся рассказывать о ней даже нынешним поколениям, потому что до сих пор существуют последствия, которые напрямую связаны с теми, казалось бы, далекими событиями, и до недавнего времени еще живы были многие ветераны и дети войны - наши бабушки и дедушки. И в этом, как мне кажется, и заключена главная разница: мы знаем ту войну не как историю из учебников, а как личную трагедию нашей семьи.
Аахаххахахаххахахахах.....і тому в раші фашисти, вони вбивають жінок і дітей?що саме пам'ятають фашисти з раші?
Ни как не знают войну нынешние люди, всем плевать на страдания трагедии и тп, в россии празднуют победу. И война не была причиной развала, вообще можно считать она была причиной того что СССР продержался чуть дольше, а дальше в итоге все пришло к тому к чему и так шло. И про недостаточное количество детей из-за войны - тоже полная чушь, это люди просто перестали детей заводить потому что условия жизни крайне неблагоприятны (и ныне становится только хуже)
Такая для вас трагедія, что вьі, блдж, решили её повторить. Зашибись повторили, правда. На эхо войньі ещё сколько - лям с обоих сторон? И если с Украиньі потери ещё размазаньі по разньім возрастам - основная масса там мирняк - то у РФ основная масса - нестарьіе мужики. Лет через 40 такими темпами от основьі СССР остануться только белорусьі.
@@Daemon861о да
У русских потерь много , у вас только мирняк 🤡🤡
@ilyhanchick тьі жопой читал что там написано?
I'm from Belarus. We lost up to 25% of our population in that war. The thing I'm really grateful for in this video is the words "Mostly, it was the war of Soviet and Germany". That's true, and I appreciate the recognition
It is however an overstressed point. 45% of axis killed captured and wounded, by the western powers. This is not to say it is not significant party, of course it was, it was a fundamental pillar. Its as absurd to dismiss the the wests role, as much as it is to dismiss the USSR.
@tisFrancesfault true
Thank you!
As a Brit I know we wouldn’t have stood a chance without all those who fought in the Russian army!
It would be idiotic to do a third version. I hope people resist the politicians who try.
Belarus was not existing before and during WW2.
A wise man once said:
“ When you see your fatherland in ruins, your hometown in flames and the blood of your children running down the street, then you know what war in your own country means! "
This wise man was my grandfather!
People who watch wars on television just don't know. People where I live now have told me about dead children in the street in the 1970s. I know of people settling scores with opposition people that go on decades.
The death toll of USSR for solders counts mainly battle capable men and women, which are young people, some even children, because of how desperate the time was. It was a disastrous cut on the young population. It can be seen as a large dip in general and a skew towards women's side in the population pyramid graph, the effects of which were still visible even in 2010.
There is a reason in Russia and other post-soviet countries the Victory Day is still celebrated.
Thank you Ryan. I am 93 and I remember the pictures of the concentration camps in the picture post magazines. They have never left my memory. The horror never goes away. Nobody seems to remember nearly the whole world was involved.
Bless you nothing I can say to you that'll help the your pain away
You've had to live in in human way of life just to survive
Lots of love ❤ and respect for all of you who suffered lose RIP to those who suffered
From Australia 🦘🇦🇺 👍
@@davidcruse6589 I mean... He just saw some pictures, I don't think it had that much impact on his life...
@@man-xy hi, idiot. My relatives were improsoned in those camps.
@@Stefiiiz It would have if his or her family were involved. My father fought in WWII. His father was a London Policeman and my mother lived with her parents in London during the blitz. (Both since deceased). Mum had memories of it and told what she and her family went through. My father never talked about it.
@@Linda_AUS Yes, but there's nothing in his comment suggesting that's the case. Also, the commenter I was responding to seemed to think that he was actually in the camp, and not just watching a picture in some magazine.
As a Brit, I'm realising how shamefully little I actually know about the war beyond the Blitz, children being evacuated, the Holocaust and D-Day. I guess my education and exposure on the subject has been just as focused on my own country's involvement as the Americans' education has been focused on theirs. I'm going to have to learn a lot more.
Some education or storys I should say, you can see in most Sabaton-music. Resist and Bite for Example is about a belgium unit defending against the Blitztroops with 40 or 50 man against a few thousand. Those little storys make Sabaton music more enjoyable!!
Yes you are. Then you may understand the horror of Trump.
Half of WWII was fought on the eastern front, literally. The european theater was a german-soviet thing for the most part from summer 41 onwards until the surrender of germany. My grandparents from the mother side had to flee the soviets in early 45 ... i suggest a video with the title "World War II Every Day with Army Sizes". Combine that with the death toll from this video and you begin to understand the sheer scale of the soviet-german war ... greetings from Gardelegen, Germany.
@@Sjb2077 horror of trump? 😮🤦♂️ wow, you really are a victim of brainwashing...plus you seem to not be able to use those last two remaining braincells of yours...
wow, just wow
trump was most praceful us president in a half century...
he rather ended wars and started NONE...
@@Sjb2077dipshit alert. 0 wars during his 4 years. Multiple wars during Joe Biden.
Literally each family in Russia and other post-Soviet countries has a history of a dead soldier. Please don't forget this sacrifice. These people are the reason why you are alive.
It would have been nice if the Russians also didnt forget this heritage and stopped invading and slaughtering their neighbours.
disputable. many of them were just used as cannon fodder to defend against the invaders. to translate that into us being alive is a very cynical view.
Both my grandfathers were part of this war from the side of then Yugoslavia. Imagine listening to their stories firsthand. One of them was fighting on The Syrmian Front, luckily survived, and lived to be 89. RIP, grandpa!
Sremski front. Slava mu!
У меня все прадеды участвовали, но увы не все вернулись
American civilians have *no* idea what war really means.
War has become BIG BUSINESS for the US after WW2.
Their factories/industry have never suffered any damage like Britain or Germany.
And the US does nothing for free, they serve you a bill after being "helpfull".
www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=when+ended+the+slavery+pay+for+the+UK+to+the+USA
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It's even more interesting when you consider the circumstances of American civilian deaths in WW2. I do not deny neither the fact US military was important factor in the outcome, nor the fact US industry was actually the deciding factor of the outcome of the war. Soviet blood wouldn't mean a thing without American sweat, yet consider following question: as a hapless civilian, with no way to impact the reality you live in, would you prefer to live in the reality of having to work hard in safety or in an occupied land, under constant threat of violence, starvation and absolutely randomlike death?
The two biggest chunks of American civilian deaths are sailors serving in the convoys (whose sacrifice also was very important) and American diplomats, businessman and tourists who ignored all the warning sings and failed to leave the countries which were under impending threat of war and got caught in the crossfire.
We also need to count American colonies separately fromUS proper - because it's hard to say who's actually guilty here, Japanese or US itself. Hawaii for example was "US soil" for less than 50 years in 1941, and considering the fact this part of the world became part of US in similar way Czechoslovakia became part of Germany in 1938, they definitely should be counted separately; after all Czechs and Slovaks are.
Long story short, if we discount those voluntereed to go to war, those who went into war without being conscious about it, and those would prefer not to be part of US in first place, then we get the count of innocent Americans just trying to live their lives and falling victim to circumstances of war against their best wishes. And the count is 6. Six. Six people.
that's why they've elected warmongers into office now
American civilians have no idea what anything means. That is the problem this pathetic Trump country has.
Oh they do . Many live in a ' war zone ' . And they do it to themselves under the moniker of the 2nd amendment !
And the media project fear as if it were a war ...
My grandmother is now 103 yrs old. Born in 1921. She remembers my grandfather going to Germany before my dad was born. Grandpa was lucky. He served for 25 years. Retired a Lt. Col.after going through WW2, the Korean war, and Vietnam as an enlisted man and an Officer. He passed in 1985, but gramma is still with us.
My grandparents were kids when the war was. Grandma told how nazis tried to burn the house they were in and they escaped just because something took their attention from house. And also, one of my teachers survived siege of Leningrad. She was one of the children that was saved through the lake road during winter. She died this spring, i really miss her.
My grandma was saved from Leningrad through that "The Road of Life" over the frozen lake. I'm here because of this.
My grandgrandmother was in Stalingrad, lost her family then came to orphanage in Leningrad. 😢
Bad irony.
2 of my uncles were forcibly mobilized and taken to Germany for basic training..later they were sent by train together with other soldiers
against Russia. one never returned, the other escaped from the train and somehow got to France where he joined the Maki. After the war he came home. Greetings from Slovenia, the former Yugoslav Republic.
Le Maquis.named after the bushes growing in mediterranean wilderness, where you can hide easily. The people who fought in the Maquis were called Maquisards.
The West's biggest problem is that the USSR's losses in World War II are perceived as "Stalin forced everyone, he sacrificed his people." As if if he had not existed, the people would have surrendered very quickly, just to avoid dying. Hence the misconception that you can put pressure on Russia, the people will surrender at the first difficulties. Stalin is no longer there to "force" us to defend ourselves to the end, so we need to put pressure on us and we will surrender. This lack of understanding of the spirit of the Russian people (regardless of nationality) regularly leads to the West's attempts to "defeat" us.
wonderfully said
Татаро-монголы,
Польша,
Швеция,
Франция,
Османская,
Германия.
Эти прекрасные своего рода империи объединяет одно - их положение в Мире до и после войн с русскими. Каждый век память у чудиков обнуляется...
Американцы, серьезно? 😂 Вы же не знали по-настоящему войн со времен вашей гражданской. Это было 150 лет назад.
Режим самовыпила активирован? 🤯
So that's why you're attacking a peaceful country?? There's no reason to destroy the Ukraine. Stop your propaganda bs
Don't forget that it was a matter of survival, Hitler wanted slav population to be reduced in numbers and used as slaves, because he deemed them unworthy and only be able to serve others. Surrendering and accepting defeat was simply not an option for USSR
No one thinks USSR would have "surrendered at the first difficulties", but isn't it true that without Stalin achieving mass mobilization with brutal methods (of civilians as well), the Nazis would have achieved more strategic victories, leading to who knows what ending? 10-25% of the total population of a country dying in just a couple of years is unfathomable and would break any spirit, no matter how strong. Take into account most people are not soldiers but children, elderly, women, and workers that have to make food and work in factories.
What do you mean with "the West's attempts to defeat us"? Call me stupid but what attempts? There's always tension because of capitalism vs communism, oil, nuclear power, more countries joining nato/EU or wanting to, but "attempts"?
This video should be required viewing in ALL schools here in the UK and abroad. I almost couldn't bear it at times, it brought me to tears at the loss of life. But it is so important to remember this time in history and to think more about recent armed conflicts in the world and those going on around us right now. Our young people need to know what happened in the past and be free to have open discussions and form their own conclusions. Thank you Ryan for your honest and moving reaction to this video
My friend from Ukraine had to escape the country, andhis father couldn't.
It has been about 3 years since that ear stsrted, and his mother left Ukraine and I always wonder how that affects her relationship with the father. They are old people, most modern relationships in thevwest don't last until the children are grown up, but what does it do to a family that is scattered across the planet due to war? What does it do to people that are married and have to live in different countries for 3 years? I hope they will manage to stay a couple once this is over, or...if it ever is over, but when we talk about the casualties of war, we only talk about the hard numbers, of people that are forever gone. We might have to also remember that we are merely discussing the tip of the iceberg. We don't talk about the trauma a family experiences for losing a child, for people that are displaced and always feel out of place with where they arrived. We never talk about how estranged individuals become so cut off from their own culture ans not accepted into a new one, raising children that don't speak the language you have spoken for a lifetime.
In my opinion, no one has ever won a war. One has started it, one has ended it, but nobody has won the war.
The problem is time, to teach students about that time period with the needed information to understand the full story. Your gonna be talking about almost 50 hours+ not just deaths and war but nationalism, economic powers, technology and the spread of information and the very new worry of appearing to be the good guy to your own people.
Combine that with the even bigger worry of cancel culture and the need to force modern cultural norms. History just becomes indoctrination.
I mean, I look at Ukraine and am genuinely shocked by the disregard for human life… All those redditors, influencers, etc, laughing at turret tosses or a BMP going up in flames… It really came home to me when I saw a Russian MI-28 Havoc Gunship have its tail rotor assembly shot off by a star streak AA Missile… And the fact is those two men would do anything and say anything to survive or to get home, especially the pilot, since he’s trying to wrestle control, not seeing he’s not got a tail anymore… It was surprising to me that I was actually relieved to hear the crew had been captured by Ukraine… Like a helicopter is gone and you didn’t kill them, they sit the war out in a rear line camp.
But when I see people posting about Orcs (Russian troops) I do rebut them (At risk of social ostracism, but that’s nothing when you consider it) those are sons, uncles, brothers, fathers, grandfathers…
Then you look at wars that were recently fought and still had survivors, where the deaths were millions… Beggars belief.
@@smoketinytom you are right it's terrifying.
I understand it from the side of the guys on the ground not wanting to think about it in that way as they have people to protect. The act of laughter and sharing is used as a coping mechanism for them.
But online discourse about it is terrifying, people forget that everyone there has a family and 1 death is 1 broken family. I remember talking with a Russian before that war even happened he joined the Russian Army as a tanker to fund his new computer he wanted as he loved gaming.
It just seems the only people who know how bad war will be are historians and people who have played war strategy games.
Not shooters, movies and the like which glorify war.
I do think a major power war is coming within the next 30 years as they have forgotten how bad war is. The frustrating part is what's the gain why can't we bring back the right way to wage war and race them to the stars like Apollo did in the 60s. Btw that was true war NASA had a military level budget for 8 years... Mainly as they were developing ICBM tech to go to the moon.
This video is very complacent in its "long peace" view. The narrator is American who - in my opinion - has a skewed world view because he has never directly experienced what the effects of war are. Most people in the USA have no idea of what war is. Even 9/11 only gave them an itsy-bitsy taste of what other people suffer the world over,
I (a nearly 70 yo Scot) haven't experienced war directly either, so some may say that I am talking about something I know nothing about. But given what I have heard from family, relatives and friends in Europe, Central and South America, Asia and Africa over the past 70 years, this video distances what actually happened.
It talks about fatalities, i.e. dead people. It doesn't talk about the people who lost their spouses, parents or children, It doesn't talk about people who came home crippled or mentally scarred, It doesn't talk about people lost their homes, whose livelihood was destroyed and who had to beg or prostitute themselves to eat.
This video is a comfortable "three-times-removed" intellectual view of what happened.
How true. I know all about it through the stories of my parents and what they had to endure.
Coming from the US this is also a very rich statement, considering the US is responsibility for most of the civilian casualties after WW2.
Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Chile, Iran, Irak, Afghanistan, Syria, Congo, Angola, Indonesia, Argentina and many more.
@@The_real_ArovorTheoretically we can also give the US credit for all deaths caused by their weapon industry fueling wars they aren't otherwise directly involved in.
9/11 is a good example. US only lost 3000 people and then they went on a rampage through the middle east. In Ukraine the Ukrainians eliminated 10,000 Russian speakers from 2014-2022 before Russia went in.. But apparently it was wrong and Russia should protect these people? Western society is largely brainwashed.
Just the Soviets in Afghanistan, Russia invading Georgia...
The Soviet Union and Communist guerillas fought nazi germany alone for 3 1/2 years. After Stalingrand, when the tide of the war reversed, the Western "allies" moved first to Italy. Take into consideration that Western allies fought mainly against battalions of wounded soldiers from the Eastern front, kids from nazi youth joining the ss, and older soldiers over 55 years old, while at the Eastern front and the guerillas fought against battle hardened ss units and the best units of wermacht
This is not true, possibly just Soviet propaganda. The age and nationality profiles of Nazi soldiers fighting on the Eastern and Western Fronts differed significantly due to the strategic priorities, logistical challenges, and recruitment policies of Nazi Germany during World War II.
The Eastern Front required massive numbers of troops due to the vast scale of operations and high attrition rates. As a result, the Wehrmacht deployed soldiers of varying ages.
Early in the war (1941-1943), the age profile was relatively standard, with most soldiers aged 18-30, reflecting the core of Germany's pre-war conscription pool.
As the war progressed (1943-1945), manpower shortages forced Germany to conscript younger (16-17) and older men (40-50+), as well as members of the Hitler Youth and Volkssturm (local militia).
The brutal conditions and high casualty rates meant that younger recruits were often rushed into combat with minimal training.
The Western Front, particularly after 1944, saw a less uniform age distribution.
Many frontline troops were still in their 20s and 30s, but a significant portion of forces defending the Atlantic Wall and other positions were from older, less combat-ready units, including the Volkssturm and second-tier divisions.
Younger soldiers were often kept in reserve or deployed to high-priority areas like Normandy in 1944.
@kubat448 what soviet propaganda.......from national geographic to history channel they all state that, tell me that they are Communists
The British Commonwealth declared war on Germany while the Soviet Union was helping Germany invade Poland. Let that sink in.
While the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India and South Africa had declared war on Germany, guess what the Soviet Union was doing? They were busy being the aggressors in a completely separate war that they started in Finland.
The Soviet Union was as evil as Nazi Germany and what happened to it's people was a result of their barbaric warmongering.
@@VikingKong.That must be an alternative folk history
Вы еще не видели как воровали нацисты на строительстве укреплений на западном фронте ☝️
And somehow Americans still think they made the ultimate sacrifice and that they deserve the biggest gratitude for defeating the Nazis and winning the War.
*Germans. They were not randoms without names or nationality.
@@Swarzec_Swarzewski Nazis. Beside Germans there were Nazis amongst all kinds of nations, Ukrainians, Poles, Hungarians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Croats etc. As a matter of fact, among those where Nazism as ideology arose quickly and easily even today.
@@markoDbogdanovic It's Germans who attacked my country, people who spoke german, not some blurry ideology.
That's how you manipulate history. First changing who attacked, not specific nation, but mistical nazis. I'll let to your imagination what is next step.
@@Swarzec_Swarzewski So you mean that it is German people who are bad and need to be killed !
Fortunately, most people are not racist like you : we see that evil is the ideology : nazism in this case.
Nazism is an horrible ideology : in Germany, in Kiev, or anywhere else.
@@Swarzec_Swarzewski if you are fighting for nazis to take over the world i think its pretty fair to call you a nazi. Am i wrong?
What's really crazy is that all the USA seems to write/care/make movies about are their own involvement - why aren't schools educating them - Ryan shouldn't feel stupid for not knowing stuff - it's partly down to not been taught a more expansive history at school - that's where you can learn at least the bare bones and then if your interest is piqued you can do your own research
the reason is very simple: you are not supposed to question how "clean" the US acted during and especially after every conflict, especially during and after WW2
When I was in public school here in the US this was taught. We had extensive world history classes that were required to graduate. Unfortunately that is no longer the case.
we were definitely taught this in school dude.
Still gets taught in schools where I live, we even had to write an essay about the morality of the atomic bomb.
75 000 French civilians killed, cities bombed to ruins, rapes, war crimes... Not everyone in France keep a good memory of American intervention.
I really like that you are so knowledgeable and open-minded❤And this is an incredible impressive documentary, watched it first, when the great peace was still on...
the great peace? Every year in the last 100 years has seen strife in multiple places somewhere in the world. The UN has a list of ongoing conflicts, which rarely drops below 30.
Ryan, you called it a 'barbaric time'. Yes it was, but the same thing can happen today, in any country... ANY country.
Internment camps are being touted for US already. Hatred is rife. How can they deport / inter 11 million people? How long before they, too, come up with a "solution". 😪
It IS happening today!
Yeah, the long peace feels more like a break until the next worst thing. Things could easily fall apart. I think that the fact so many people are losing trust in institutions that brought us to this state of relative peace is what's most dangerous. We are giving power to people who have no respect for history and past mistakes.
I don't know. Nuclear deterrence worked up until now. The first big conflict involving states that own a nuke button will either be much more tame than anything during WW2, or exponentially worse, almost civilization ending.
@@DenshinIshin Ukraine gave up their nukes for security guarantees and look where it got them and now with orange man countries might doubt the commitment of USA common defence and maybe seek nukes themselves. At least it would make sense to me.
Many people think that this won’t or can’t happen again, but we’re still the same people. We’re still just as susceptible to cruelty and nationalism as they were.
Exactly! People thought the same about the First World War, calling it ‘the great war’ little did they know 20 years later it would all be repeated again with significantly worse consequences. Another important thing is in my opinion is to acknowledge that the man who started all this was exactly that a man. to make him seem as if he was some demonic force that could never happen again increases our chances of creating another just like him.
I thought that until february 2022, but sadly not anymore 😢
ho trust me ... Seeing what happens all around both in Europe and USA.... We see the pattern...And we're scared
But as long as we remember these losses from WWI and WWII, at least we have a lot less of a chance of things going THAT pearshaped again.
If a war of that degree breaks out then it will be the end of humanity as we know it, weapons have evolved that much that the scale of destruction could affect the whole world.
In total, around 27 million citizens of the USSR lost their lives in World War II.
Both of my grandfathers had to fight on the side of the Nazis, but did not support the ideology. One of them deserted and joined the partisans, where he met my grandmother. The other was incredibly lucky, because his big mouth probably saved his life. He had an argument with one of his superiors and because of that he was transferred to another unit in Bulgaria. His old unit had to go to Russia and very few of them came back.
Same here. Both german grandfathers had to fight. There was no (good) way around it. One made sure to be a horrible soldier, he was always too late and one day that saved his life. His wife fled with a 1yo just before they discovered she was jewish. The other grandpa just surrendered where he could have escaped back to his unit. He was very lucky the greeks were nicer than the nazis and didn´t kill him as a prisoner.
Dutchie here and same thing. My grand-uncle fled the Nazi army in Russia and walked all the way to Holland and hid
Both my grandpas were fighting in Red Army. One of them liberated Europe, other one China. But today you can't see their struggle in war calling them bad people.
That's a prime example of why I dislike when the entire German military in WW2 is referred to as Nazis
European resistance movements were incredibly international. In Italy each and every partisan group, except those in the cities, had members from all over. In my grandfather's there was an American, an Australian, a Soviet (but not Russian, don't know from where), an Austrian, and a Yugoslavian.
Since this Video got published, we got horrible wars in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Mali, Ethiopia, Jemen, Libanon, Palestine, Myanmar, Ukraine, Arminia,... The death toll among civilians relative to soldiers grew significantly due to new technologies. The Long Peace is definitely over.
but these are so called "new wars", they differ from traditional wars. and the "democratic peace theory" still applies. democracies do not fight other democracies but authoritarian regimes (e.g. russia) fight democracies and terrorist groups fight each other and the regimes in their countries
@@nein9.9 I agree.. but this demonstrates the very different realities we live in. 🙂
And they didn't count the Balkan wars as if they didn't exist.
@@nein9.9 Мммм, какая была охуенная демократия, когда США вторглись в Сирию. Как только кто-то неугоден правительству США, то они тут же вводят войска в страну. Почему никто не видит, что США хочет видеть другие страны своими колониями, кроме России, Китай и пострадавших от США стран?
@@anri2254 bro do you really expect me to know russian?
Even these numbers do not reflect how brutal this time was. I am from Lublin (Poland). My grandmother told me how, when she was a few years old, she collected parts of soldiers' bodies after battles to prevent the spread of the plague.
The horrors of WW2 are difficult to show, so much things happened everywhere at the same time that the only way to make people understand what a mess the world was at the time is by numbers
yes, it does not represent all the suffering there was, but seriously: how would you even begin to describe that?
My grandpa was in Russia. Not Stalingrad, but he was severely injured anyway. Somehow he made it back home on a military plane, but one leg had to be amputated to save his life. None of our family ever was a Nazi or ever will be. But how could anyone have escaped the general draft, or "mobilization"? Deserting was not an option if you didn't have enough money and friends to help you get out.
Shame on those leaders who start a war, and shame on those who refuse to end it by negotiations and instead sacrifice human life, wherever it happens on this "pale blue dot" (Carl Sagan) that is our home.
yep, calling every german nazi was a shitty move from the creator.
part of my family was from the soviet union and one of them was a soviet soldier during ww2 but the fact that the creator used the word "nazis" still disgusts me
Yeah, shame on your German leaders who started another war in 2014. You will all pay for their decision. And you will whine again how it wasn't possible to "desert".
My father was also in Russia at the age of just 18 and a member of the “Army Group South”. He was also flown out with an injury to his foot and leg, but was able to keep his leg.
My grandfather was an active social democrat and was arrested in 1940 and died of "pneumonia" in prison in 1942.
My other grandfather was a communist. Not a particularly active one and also a miner in the coalfield, which is why he was not drafted as “war-important specialist personnel” and also had some freedoms that a simple farm worker could not afford.
Despite this, we were and still are insulted as Nazis by many foreigners.... that hurts, especially as these people usually have such a low IQ that they would have enthusiastically joined in at the time and with full conviction.
And I can see that in many young people today who are roaring and shouting old slogans.... and not in Germany (there too, but rather sporadically because it's a criminal offense), but increasingly abroad. Be it other European countries or the USA, the old brown ghost still roams the minds of people who lack education or who simply want to blame others for their problems. And that scares me!
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Mein Vater war mit gerade einmal 18 Jahren ebenfalls in Russland und Angehöriger der "Armeegruppe Süd". Er wurde ebenfalls mit einer Verletzung am Fuß und Bein ausgeflogen, konnte aber sein Bein behalten.
Mein Großvater war aktiver Sozialdemokrat und wurde 1940 Verhaftet und ist 1942 im Gefängnis an einer "Lungenentzündung" gestorben.
Mein anderer Großvater war Kommunist. Kein sonderlich aktiver und zudem Bergman im Kohlerevier, weshalb er als "Kriegswichtiges Fachpersonal" nicht eingezogen wurde und zudem einige Freiheiten hatte die sich ein einfacher Landarbeiter nicht erlauben konnte.
Trotzdem wurden wir und werden wir bis heute von vielen Ausländern als Nazi beschimpft.... das schmerzt, zumal diese Personen meist einen so geringen IQ haben das sie damals mit Begeisterung mitgemacht hätten und das aus voller Überzeugung.
Und das sehe ich an vielen jungen Leuten die heute wieder gröhlend durch die Gegend ziehen und alte PArolen schreien.... und nicht in Deutschland (da auch, aber eher vereinzelt weil strafbar), sondern vermehrt im Ausland. Sei es das Europäische Ausland oder die USA, das alte braune Gespenst streift noch immer durch die Köpfe von Leuten denen es an Bildung fehlt oder die einfach immer nur andere für ihre Probleme verantwortlich machen wollen. Und das macht mir Angst!
Most german soldiers were volunteers and they democratically elected Hitler into power knowingly what he is capable of. Not every german was nazi but most of them were. ( They didn't elect Hitler because of ww1 consequences, peace theaty was actually not that bad it was due to printing a lot of money that german economy was shit.)
I would like to pitch in with a story of my great grandfather, who took part in war, as a driver in ranks of the Red Army. After the capture of Berlin, he has crushed a car their platoon got from Americans. As the crush happened not in a battle, he feared that he would be executed - that was not a laughing matter in Red Army.
Somehow, an American soldiers came to know about that, and one of them offered to swap cars - so he would be blamed for the crush, and my great grandfather would be spared. The funniest part: that whole conversation was basically conducted in a pantomime, because no-one in great grandfather's crew knew English, and that American soldier didn't speak Russian. And, on top of that, that American soldier was the first black person my great grandfather has ever seen in his life.
Unfortunately, my great grandfather forgot the name of that American soldier, but because of that selfless action he never believed the Cold War propaganda about "evil Americans". He always knew they are kind people in the essence, even at their own detriment.
What a wonderful story! Your grandfather sounds like a very wise man, indeed. I am grateful to him, and to all those who served. #LestWeForget
That is an amazing story, worth to be remembered, thank you for sharing it.
An old Italian soldier tells of when, during the Italian retreat from Russia, he knocked on an izba asking for food. He entered, rifle in hand, and found himself in front of a group of soldiers of the Red Army eating. A woman gave him a bowl of milk and millet, while the soldiers continued to eat, he shouldered his rifle and sat at the table to eat with them, then he thanked the woman and left. All this while twenty meters outside the izba Russians and Italians were shooting at each other.
Soldiers are human beings, armies are not. In any army, except perhaps the very recent ones, the first thing to do is to dehumanize the soldiers: you cut their hair short, you put them all in the same uniform, you teach them to obey orders, you tell them that the enemy is beasts, you make them all march at the same pace, etc...
But when they are sitting at the table in front of a hot dish and it's -20°C outside they are no longer soldiers, they are kids (because that's what they were, kids) who are hungry and cold.
@@nicoladc89 Well said.
@@nicoladc89 So true. I heard many stories like these from my grandfather. Especially at Christmas, enemies were known to celebrate together, or share food. People are good, it is the forces from top that are evil.
Great work Ryan. Let us all open our eyes, we seemed to be heading on that direction once more.
Great work? All he did was react to the video.
All of these deaths are so sad and senseless. We MUST prevent something like this from ever happening again. There are people who want to take us back to these times
Its starting to happen again... tough times ahead...
the precursor is happening now in Eastern Europe.
You already on the path to that. Putin is trying to save you
@@debbie541keep your nukes away from Russian borders and you don't have to worry. But no, you don't wanna think for yourself. No critical thinking. Can't even ask yourself simple questions.
Never again. But there are moves to bury us in blood. . .
My grandfather was 17 years old when he was forced to service… he hated the war.. so many died.. his unit fought in the west and in the east… had heavy losses.. they retreated from the soviets in Hungary..into American captivity.. he and his comrades were not nazis.. they just tried to survive this hell
My grandpa was only 15 years old... He was forced to fight at the front. Together with several others from our tiny village. He was the only one of them to come back! He only spoke to me about it once and it was the only time I ever saw my grandpa cry. That's why it makes me angry and sad when people say that all Germans were Nazis. "Fun" fact: "only" 44% of Germans voted for the NSDAP in 1933
@@kjk8941 I hope it can make you feel better if I say that I'm french and that I know about that. I think most french people know that. I have a lot of compassion for those men in Germany who were forced to fight a war they didn't want.
@@LolubelluleAnd the ones who wanted?
As far as I know the Hungarians were generally quite brutal in the USSR.
@@kjk8941
44% is such an incredibly high number 🤯.
Imagine AfD or CDU/CSU get so many votes come election…
Just checked the website, and it's still up. Linked in the video description, i think its just not a https website.
Thx for not avoiding this topic
This video describes the saddest part of my country’s history.
What irks me about this video is that the Words Nazi and German soldier are used interchangeably. Most soldiers were not Nazis but to speak up against the system would have been suicide.
My grandfather was working for the German Railway and his work was considered “important”. Normally, people like him were not called to the weapons because they had to keep the country going. But my grandfather refused to join the Nazi party. He was offered to choose between joining the party or being sent to Stalingrad. He went to Stalingrad, got severely injured and almost died. He was a social-democrate all of his life. Calling him a Nazi is an insult.
Soldiers were between 16 and 60 years old. At the end of the war, young kids from the age of 12 had to fight. German cities got defended by a bunch of scared kids. They were not nazis.
All of Europe has suffered terribly. Just as many other party of the world. That’s why Europe has worked so hard to build the European Union.
The US have fought several wars since WW2 but never had to fight a war in their own territory. Consider yourselfs lucky!
Yeah look at the kids fighting for russia now. They're kidz tricked into that game. It's always more than 50% of the aggressors are victims of their systems too. Speaking up and protest is less possible than I always thought. I was arrogant in that point. Now I see worldwide how hard it is to form resistance.
Yes, as a Dutch person who when young actually hated the Germans for a while.... I also don't like how he says Nazi when he meant Germans.
The creator adressed this error and apologized for it in the discription of the original video. The video already had an insane amount of views, which lead to the decission to never change its narration and correct this.
@@dnocturn84 Now you mentioned it, I do remember that
Oh bullshit. Don't give me that PC crap - in WWII we didn't fight aliens from the planet Nazion, we fought Germans who fought for German values to build Germany. It wasn't NSDAP, it was everyone in Germany, no matter how now Germans desperately want to convince anyone. For 30+ years the Germans denied their crimes, refused to acknowledge crimes in Poland and today they have the gall to refuse WWII reparation to Poland because "it was them evil Nazis".
You wouldn't have hitler without Bismarck, without Goethe, without the Teutonic Order. I'm Polish, I'm not prejudiced against Germans but i despise how history is being twisted to blame the victims.
9:25
"What does that do to a country to lose that many people?"
Absolute devastation. Entire villages where the only men were either newborns, or the elderly. Almost every russian family had someone who left for the army or was captured and taken away by german soldiers. The majority never returned home.
Actually my uncle wasn't that traumatized by the war and occupation itself but much more by the aftermath. He witnessed some of the millons of displaced people throughout Europe moving back to what was left of their homes and families, often on foot, starved, injured, diseased, empoverished, horrified, broken.
That took years, this is almost entirely forgotten about and of course relatively insignificant, it's just an illustration of the scale of the devastation that even the immediate aftermath when peace was achieved was such horrible scene.
We are still digging out those bombs the allied forces dropped on our cities. It's a vivid memory of what happend, even if the people who witnessed it are dying out.
In war, none are victorious.
This weekend 2 big WWII bombs will be dismantled in an area near here. Luckily the location is quite rural and locals are ordered to stay inside their homes. The bombs were discovered while expanding the highway.
In France they are sill unearthing munitions from WW1. In Northern Ireland (I think) recently, an unexploded German bomb was detonated. The reminders are still everywhere, yet we sound surprised when an incident happens.
And many ships and bombs on the ground in the sea
My father fought in Europe, US Army 11 ArmDiv. ‘44 until wars end then stayed in Austria until discharged in Jan. ‘46. His oldest brother, my uncle, was a B-17 pilot and survived. Next oldest brother was a B-24 pilot and died in ‘43.
The Canadians were left out of all the countries. Why? We were in the war a year before the Americans. We liberated the Netherlands. My Grandpa lost a foot due to shrapnel. We had many soldiers die.
I missed Canada to, they were involved in the liberation of the Netherlands
We in the Netherlands are very grateful to the Canadian and British soldiers for liberating us. I was born in Arnhem. My grandparents experienced the Second World War. My grandparents taught me from an early age that I should be grateful to our liberators for our freedom. Otherwise I would never have been born. May 4, Remembrance Day is still very important for many Dutch people. I also told my children, be grateful to them. And I am so happy that they were able to personally thank veterans when they visited Arnhem for the activities around May 4 and 5. The veterans remain very modest about it, in their eyes it was kind of normal. just do what needed to be done. Until I said no, it's not normal, you are our liberators and if it weren't for you, these boys wouldn't have been there. 2 veterans had tears in their eyes. And they thanked us. Because we continue to pass the story on to our children. The boys are now 23 and 22 years old. And they still commemorate our liberators. And they are very interested in this war, read a lot about it and watch a lot of documentaries about it. Just like me as a young girl. Find out as much as possible about it. Because we now have to ensure that it is not forgotten. Now I live in a village 5 km from Arnhem. Westervoort on the IJssel, this is where Operation Quick Anger started. An operation that played a major role for Market Garden. It's been 80 years now. We will never forget! Greetings from the Netherlands ❤
They included you under Britain, along with Australia etc i believe 'dumping it all under the commonwealth '
I have visited the War Graves in Holland, I weep even as I type this. Wake up America, Trump is Hitler reincarnated.
They grouped canada with Britain as a colony. Not technically accurate in WWII but if this was a continuation of WWI then it would allow the graphics to make more comparable sense
It's difficult, if not impossible,to know for sure the number of death's, especially civilian. There were no computers back then. People's registries were on paper,stored in buildings that were destroyed. So there is no record they ever existed. Entire family trees wiped out from existence and from memory.
How true, I am a 87 European who never forgot and worry for what is happening currently.
My great grandmother lost her fiance in the war. She also spent her 21st birthday under the kitchen table because of the Blitz. She also was a firefighter in the war.
She died in 2020 at 100 and because of COVID.
She married my great grandfather, who served in WW2 - he drove a tank and everyone on the tank died except him. He managed to escape when an ally tank passed by and he grabbed hold of them. The tank exploded. He lost an eye, and had to have reconstructive surgery on a lot of his body, including his face. At the time, the surgery was experimental. Remarkably, he didn't lose any limbs.
He died from dementia about 25 years ago (I never got to meet him). He had a few different types of dementia, largely believed to have been caused by all the trauma when he served. He died with shrapnel still in his back because they couldn't remove all of it.
Here are some stories I've been told about him:
Despite everything he went through, apparently he was so much fun.
He used to make people play croquet up a hill (he's on my maternal side, and my mum is 1 of 4, so he had a lot of fun with them, and used to try and freak them out by putting his glass eye in a glass)!
He once was organising a party (cannot remember what the occasion was), but made everyone play 'Guess Who', and he was the one that chose the names. After about 30 minutes of everyone trying to guess who the heck they had (and everyone was a little tipsy), they all finally gave up and asked who these people were that they had to try and guess. Well, my grandfather goes, "I don't know, I got their names out of the phone book!"
While he was serving/training at an army camp, he once couldn't be bothered to manoeuvre the tank around the roundabout (he was the driver), so he just went straight over it.
Another time he was fed up with the drills being so early (while he was serving), so in protest he decided he'd go and do it in his pyjamas. Turned out it wasn't a drill, and he had to send back someone to get his uniform.
The guy sounded like a wonderful man, and I wish I met him. My great grandmother was a widow for over 20 years, but she wore her wedding and engagement ring up until the day she died.
I have a lot of stories with family members who served. For example one of them was in the Great Escape, and he managed to make his way out of the tunnel before the officers caught them, but his best friend who was a few people in front, didn't, and he died as a result.
My family still have letters from him when he served. The same goes for my great grandfather.
as a German...dont call every german soldier a Nazi this was not true..but also as a German...thank God we don't won this war
I agree, when I heard "the phrase X millions nazis" died, it felt as if those didn't count as much as other human lives. Narrative error.
I understand you want to differentiate the individuals from the group, I guess partially because you don't won't to be seen as one just for being German. However I don't think the expression is unfair, if you are a soldier following orders it doesn't really matter if you believe the ideology behind those orders, you are still doing it. Yes I understand they were forced, maybe even under death penalty but it's still a choice that every individual had.
The same as innocent russian soldiers going to die in Ukraine today? They have carried weapons and were shooting from those weapons... everyone who did that was nazi.
@@kebrus If you are under threat of death, you do NOT have a choice. You cannot deny a human being their instinct of survival.
Most soldiers did not believe in the ideology per sé but simply grew up with the *Prussian* tradition of (military) discipline and being subservient to authority. That's one of the reasons the state of Prussia (which had already been _de facto_ defunct after the Preußenschlag of 1932) was dissolved by the Allies after the war.
These people didn't know the things we do.
As an Italian, I fully agree.
I like that you are interested in the rest of the world, and learning. Good on you Ryan. More of your countrymen should be like you.
The end of the video would have a very different tone if it was made a few years later. The so called long peace is certainly over.
How far we fall remains to be seen, but with recent developments I don't see a peaceful future, things might get much worse.
The most recent event trump getting elected. trump promises to end the war with Ukraine (which does not seem likely) and based on his actions in his last term, he'll probably help flair up a war with Iran instead. 😞
And intensifying the conflict with China, but that probably is hard to prevent.
True, but from a different angle, the past few years have proven that Russia no longer has the military power to wage a major war against a developed country let alone an alliance of developed countries. The real threat is China, which I already see as a powder keg. They have claims against several countries, very confrontational with a much bigger population and more up-to-date military. Though I still think China has a similar corruption problem as Russia which diminishes their actual combat power compared to what the world expect from them. Just not to the same degree as Russia.
I grew up with ww2 movies. Then, most were about how the US won all of it by being that good. Well, movies were made in Hollywood, they would be. And some were even humoristic.
Then Roger Waters brought out the song 'The Ballad of Bill Hubbard', basically an interview excerpt with the last surviving UK soldier from ww1, put to music. Yeah. That puts you in your place. Bill's deceased now, naturally. It wasn't all glory and food for fun. It wasn't glorious, it was fighting against evil. Mustard gas was the least of it, and we did that as well as 'them'. There are still areas in northern France you can't enter, let alone live in.
That's what we did. Not 'them', we. All of us.
“No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.”
-General Patton
As a teacher, I enjoy the fact that you want to learn. Keep doing it😊
My grandfather was injured in the war, which saved his life, because as a "Kradmelder" you most likely won't survive for long. He got a few bullets in his body. One on the side of his belly, one in his butt (which is always funny in movies, but not so much in real life) and one in his leg, which later on had to be amputated under his knee. With all that wounds he had to lay on the ground for hours until he got rescued. That he even survived all those injuries was because he was able to get to a lot of whine in the hospital and the alcohol preserved him, or so he said at least. He often had problems with the prothesis, as the materials weren't as good as today and so his leg got inflamed and what not. But still the wound in his butt (on the side of the good leg) was a bigger problem for him for the loss of a good portion of muscle there. My grandfather was a Nazi I think as he joined the FPÖ, which was the successor of the NSDAP, but we never talked about it. The FPÖ to this day is the party to the extreme right here in Austria. Though for US standards they would be at best left of the middle of the political spectrum there, if not very left. However, calling all German oldiers Nazis is not fair. You had no say in the matter once you are drafted. And most certainly many many of them were not actual Nazis.
I did the maths. Roughly 31,000 people died daily from WWII
One every 2-3 seconds
@@MawganRogerson Jesus
People don't really understand how bad way is after a long time of relative peace, so it becomes easier to start new wars. 😞
Great content Ryan, you really have respect for other nations. I am glad to see you learning how much outside of the US is a whole different story.
If you notice there's a spike in American deaths in 1942 then nothing until 1943. This is because American soldiers were sent to fight in North Africa in 1942 after causing trouble among the locals in the UK. This highlighted just how badly trained American soldiers were, hence why they had to undergo 6 months of training in the UK before being sent into battle.
Basically, the American's idea of fighting was to throw everything at the problem and hope they had more men and guns than the enemy.
UK also wanted to train Polish pilots, especially in English language. But then it turned out British pilots should learn from Poles, and Polish pilots eventually were decisive in winning the Battle of Britain.
Ah - thanks. I wondered about that spike!
Yeah but let's be honest, when they figured all stuff up, US Army became extremely efficient
@@rotmistrzjanm8776 I don't know where you heard that from, but no they didn't.
American troops were mainly used as support and relief troops for the allied forces. When they did actually fight it was always alongside allied troops to keep them in check.
@educatednumpty71 it was group effort yes but it wasn't that US didn't participate in frontline fighting. They provided both.
Since first seeing this it's been one of the best videos on UA-cam, so powerful and important.
Plus now we can compare, the US lost fewer soldiers during the war than Russia has lost so far in its war with Ukraine.
You mean when you are so brainwashed to eat the garbage Neonazis tell you.
А откуда вы знаете потери России? Насколько я зная, потери считаются после войн, так как во время войн, работает пропаганда, занижая свои и завышая вражеские потери
Really enjoyed this upload, puts so much into perspective.
The UK also targeted intentionally civilian targets in Germany as revenge for the Blitz.
Of course they did. They were at war, that just makes it all bad! War s bad! What is your point?
@@GarryGri Point being they're trying to hide it
@@worchestershiresauce8200 Nobody ever tried to hide that, we were taught about the British bombing campaign on Germany in our history classes at school!?
Nobody is innocent in a war!
My town in the south of the Netherlands, bordering Germany, was accidentally bombed by the Brits. As they wanted to bomb a target in Germany, and hit my town instead.
Some bombs hit the street I grew up in decades later. And a former occupant of a house I lived in, was one of the people who lost their lives. So it doubly victimized the people living in a German occupied country.
Exactly the US and UK bombed Germany every night for years. But as my dad told me, a WWII Veteran, the Nazis and Japan wouldn't give up no matter how much bombing, so what do you do? War is a dirty business, I'm also a combat veteran of Afghanistan.
I live near the Huertgen forest in Germany. The Germans won the battle of the Huertgen Forest and when US retreated, Germany started the Ardennes offence (the Ardennes are next to the Huertgen Forest). They are still finding remains of dead soldiers in the Huertgen Forest and nearby every year. About 40,000 US troops(and 35,000 Germans) died in the Huertgen forest in only a few months. The movie "when Trumpets fade" is about the battle of the Huertgen Forest and is well-made.
I found this comparison interesting... the US suffered some serious casualties on D Day with 2500. That made me think of the impending collapse of the Swedish Empire, which began at Poltava, in today's Ukraine, where the Carolean Army faced the Russian...
Sweden had been at war for a long time by then, the army battle-hardened but exhausted, consisting of 20 000 infantry and several thousand cavalry faced off against Russia on the field outside of Poltava; the mission was to take the Russian tsar.
In the battle 6 000 Swedish infantry died, thousands captured and what was left of said army fled south, towards the Ottoman Empire, where they would remain, in Bender, for quite some time before being able to return to Sweden again. The king, Karl XII, never saw Stockholm again after Poltava, as he was KIA in Norway at, Fredriksten fortress, in Halden in 1718.
My boss is 64 and doesn’t remember the iron lungs on tv with polio. I’m 77 and the newspaper and tv reports of kids paralyzed, surviving in iron lungs is firmly implanted on my mind. I got the polio vax in 1955 or thereabouts. It was wonderful, I was 7 but I knew how amazing it was. Think I’d already had chickenpox, measles and diphtheria, my brother was a year older, so whatever he had, I got. Now we have an anti Vaxer nominated for hhs. Please America, NO
Over 3 million Indians died..yet no one cares to remember them. Indians starved to death as their food was snatched to feed the war machine in Europe. About 90,000 Indian soldiers fighting this war...
I think India's casualties were added to the Britain's death count, as the British Raj didnt end until after WW2, the video stated that the colonies were counted towards Britain's death count
@fippodegyeoolies3629 You are so right, Indians, Australians, New Zealanders Canadians, South Africans and any “Empire” Troops were all just lumped in as British. While the video was very interesting. It would be great if the American maker had taken the time to recognise the contributions made by the rest of the world. Most of the “British” casualties in the Asian theatre were probably not from the UK.
@fippodegyeoolies3629 it certainly isn't not noticed in the UK, your tirade is waffle.
@@A13_Mk1 Nope. Don't think so. Uk casualities were sub 1mil while the India's death count was in the millions.
@@NarelleSmith-yl2iq They were, Singapore was a catastrophic loss of British lives.
I cried when I first saw the numbers illustrated, the weight of it all just hit me. If you are interested to know more about the japanese atrocities in Asia I would recommend watching "Playing the Victim | Historical Revisionism and Japan" by Knowing Better
you cried because of the numbers? that is the power of presentation. for me pictures and stories of the time are hitting harder.
My dad recently interviewed a 94 year old lady for a local history book his friend is writing. I was thinking about contacting my old school and try to see if we could get her to talk in front of some classes. I'm definitely gonna try now, I need the kids to hear this while these witnesses are still here
they leave many million civilian deaths in the Middle East and Africa. More than 3 million Iranian death during the Iranian Famine while they were occupied by the UK and Soviets. Iran was an important transport corridor for allied material support of the Soviets.
Yes there were so many famines during the time. Indian famines killed over 4 million too.
6:50 at the parties height in 1944 their was just over a million Nazi's (the 6th army in Stalingrad was largely just regular German soldiers), this video got a lot of diserved flack as it labeled every german soldier a nazi regardless of the fact that most wasn't part of the political party and was a mix of people wanting to fight for their nation and conscripts, as is often pointed out calling every German of the time a nazi is like calling every American a democrat as that was the political leader/political party in charge at the time, this wasn't true then and it isn't true today.
It's the same thing, and that someone told you what to call them is your problem. It is, will be and will remain and you won't change it with your strange narrative.
This is one of those videos people should be reminded now and then
Years ago I visited a former concentration camp in Mauthausen, Austria, together with some guests from another country. The concentration camp is now some kind of museum so you can get a glimpse of the horrors from when it was active. From where I live its a 2 hour drive. We had a lot of fun in the car on our way to Mauthausen. On our way back though, the mood was really heavily muted. Everybody was quiet and sad and horrified. It made a deep impression on all of us.
if you think about the hospital patients burned alive in their beds in Palestine recently you'd be gloomier still. We can't do anything about happened decades before we were born but we don't have to remain silent about what is happening now.
@@TheZodiacz Totally agreed.
@@TheZodiacz Why bring that up. It's unrelated. WWII wasn't bad enough for you?
@@TheZodiacz We should remain silent about it if it isn't affecting our daily lives.
@@worchestershiresauce8200 thats what America said when WW2 was happening btw and then they only got involved cause it benefitted them
I had an older father (his was in his 50s when I was born and almost 60 when my younger brother was born), my dad was born in 1928 and he passed away last year at the age of 95. I never asked him about WW2 but he did tell stories about it. I remember when as a kid when I didn't like the food he would say something referring to WW2 and said stuff like "We were lucky that we could eat flower bulbs and most of the time we hadn't have anything to eat at all" and he would said that I should be ashamed when not "liking the food" . As a small child I was like "what ever" and didn't really understand. He raised me and my sibblings to be tough and not to complain and or give up. Many of my friends who had wayyyy younger fathers lost their fathers earlier than I did (and their grandparents were always younger than my dad LoL). People who are born in or before WW2 are one of the strongest people I know. My dad worked till he passed away. Worked harder than almost any one my age even when he was almost 90 (he worked 7 days a week!). I remember last year when the war started in the east he was devastated and he said all those lifes are lost and are going to be lost, it was kinda weird for me cause ofcourse he didn't like wars but this time his reaction was so strong, but when he suddenly passed away (out of no where) about 1,5 weeks later, I understood..It comforts me that he does not have to see all that anymore and what the world has become since (all the deaths and terror). RIP Dad....
You are correct. My father was 12 when WW2 started. He joined up when he was 16 or 17 (he may have lied about his age). He died in 2023 at 96 years old. Towards the end he suffered from Vascular Dementia (mostly loss of memory, couldn't remember his wife sister or mother) I took him to a group meeting. They were asked what they remembered about the war. He could only remember one thing and it was vivid to him. He could just remember feeling scared, all the time. He had lost most other memories, but could always feel that memory.
The whole "proportion of the world population" is always good to keep in mind. A lot of people died, but there's also an incredible amount of humans on earth today. The further you go back the more extreme those population dips were due to a low total population. When there were only 10k humans on earth total, an unlucky flood could have caused a comparable loss in terms of percentage as a world war in the 20th century.
We visited a large WW2 cementary on our freedom day. almost 7000 graves of mostly young Canadians, Britts and Americans. Walking around, reading the ages on the crosses, trying to get a concept of the numbers and realising you are only seeing a microscopic percentage of the total amount that have perished will make you go quiet instantly.
A whole generation of young men that have died protecting the people and country they love and have liberated people they didn't know.
Damn Ryan 😯 you surpassed yourself with this one 👏👍🏻✌🏼
There are also weird side effects. You might not count things like civilians dying of dysintery during that time, but they maybe should be, because the reason for peace has not been removed.
I'm forever connected to WWII as I was raised by a concentration camp survivor who told me all her horrendous stories, starting when I was such a young age. My grandmother was a Jewish Polish survivor and out of her whole family only herself and a her brother survived. The things she told me were absolutely terrible, not something a child should be exposed to but she had nobody else to speak to since her husband died in 1959.
Every war is tragic
nice t see an american learn that. there only war is glorified and they learn a false narative of world wars.
young country just needs to do a global libary share
My great-grandparents were aged between 10 and 26 during WW2, and had a variety of experiences. Most notably my paternal great grandfather (my father’s father’s father) was a British marine during D-Day. He was part of the advance team tasked with securing what is now known as Pegasus Bridge. He was blinded in one eye during the battle and witnessed unspeakable horrors. They truly gave their tomorrow for our today- Brits, Soviets, Americans, Chinese, those from British and French colonies, resistance fighters from across Europe and Asia, and many more.
My great-grandfather lived into his 60s with a successful career as a dockworker and raising a family. Rest in Peace Herbert John Rogerson.
My grandfather was a conscientious objector, but still wanted to serve his country, he ended up being a part of the team who repatriated bodies on D-Day+3.
He never, ever spoke about it, but he insisted that when he died, he was to be cremated, not buried. Thankfully he got his wish.
He was a kind, gentle man, and I wish I knew him better.
i'm french, I'm glad i've known my great grandparents, they told me crazy stories during the war that i will never forget, one of my great grand father was at a farm one time, taking some rest, saw a german soldier, without any hesitation, without knowing anything about the guy, took his rifle and shot him, then went for a nap. This made me understand what war is, no more rules, no more mercy, it's either you or them, if you want to survive you have to kill, no rest time, danger is everywhere and peoples betray each other in order to survive. May peace find us, so Humanity can finally unite towards the same goals.
19:00 The pure amount is shocking of WW2 Victims. But 40m of Mongol conquest by a world population of around 400m that time is insane.
All the numbers are just insane.
When dictators fight it ends badly for their soldiers. Dictators do not care about death toll. They care about results.
It wasn't about dictators though; more about big money.
Look at what is happening in Russia and Ukraine. And no, Zelensky is not a dictator.
@@allykid4720 indeed war generates big money for the rich and the peons die...
Stalin wasn't an a dictator. Stop believing your idiotic propaganda.
@@wessexdruid7598Zelensky is a Peaceduke
That's mostly right, but there are a few oversights.
The main oversight is that World War II started in 1937, when Japan invaded China. It was a long and slow-moving war, mostly because China is huge, but also because China had split into two factions (very loosely, nationalists and communists) that were mostly unable to work together against the Japanese.
The figure of 10 - 20 million civilian deaths in the Soviet Union is probably just a best guess. Some estimates put the figure as high as 30 million.
This video is very well done. You see the losses of life as numbers on a page, and you might THINK you get it. But that is nothing compared to how those same losses are shown here. I feel like this should be required viewing for any class anywhere that is learning 20th century history..
Now you can see why it´s such a big deal in Germany to say "Never again" and why we´re not so much waving flags like in the US. Yes it is teached in school but in this video the graphics shock even more. Hope the world takes alot care that no weard tyrann and dictator does that again. Sadly the UN is doing a bad job in it.
Why are you doing it again right now then? It's not the UN. It's you.
@@gogaonzhezhora8640 We are? Where? Who did we attack? Did i missed anything? We aren´t at war. What are you talking about?
@@ThomasPaysen-Delleske I believe he was referencing your election last week. You effing idiots elected a man that wishes he had Hitler's generals.( not understanding that hitler's generals tried to assassinate him 3 times ) that has directly quoted Hitler numerous times. Your country claimed a LOT of glory after WWII, but you came to the party almost 3 years after it started. Back in the late 30's and early 40's, there was a very strong Nazi movement in the US. The ONLY reason you entered the war was you got a wake up call from Japan.
We barely have a functional army. Wtf are you even talking about?
@@gogaonzhezhora8640 too much russian propaganda? Watch REAL russian tv to learn and see.
I can't get over how people are arguing over which country lost more people in World War II the countries were called Allies which means it doesn't matter when or who comes and helps in time of War it was the end result that mattered my family lost a great grandfather and two of his brothers in World War II and where Australian all that should matter is remembering those men and women he did everything they could to give us and their countries are future 12:28
Just looking through the comments and figuring in about 80 years time we will have people commenting that it wasn’t all Americans, just the MAGAs
The "long peace" section was before Ukraine and Palestine, but I'm surprised it didn't mention the Balkan wars as wars in Europe. The narrator was right about the general trend though - long may it continue.
I think he included it in the civil wars in total without mention any specific wars
theres no such country "palestine". it was Israel who was invaded and had to defend itself
@@LovelyLikeThis. we did not ask for your political opinion here . there is a conflict between those two region , who is right and who is wrong does not matter , just the fact that it is happening and people are dying
@@LovelyLikeThis. He never said it was a country but you should ask why it's not. Israel and the US have blocked resolutions to form a Palestinian state at the UN for decades despite claiming to not be occupying them.
@@JKK_85 WOW youre so ignorant. go read some wikipedia. seriously. learn the history of israel.
Hell yeah! Jacob Fkn Jones made a cameo ykwis 😂 no complaints on my behalf, that is for sure
Please add a link to the original videos in the description so we can like and share them. Otherwise it's unfair to the creators. Greetings from Old Germany. We love our history, but even for us, the two world wars are extreme indictments for the whole world. This example should serve as a lesson to us all for eternity.
I'm annoyed because this video completely ignored Finland. About 96,000 Finnish people died, which was about 2.5% of the total population.
My mother was a child during the war. She never talked much about it, but she told some stories. Once, when she was walking home from school with a friend, the air alarms started. They hid in a ditch. They saw Russian planes flying over them; they were flying very low, but they didn't drop any bombs that time. When the alarm was over, the girls got up and continued walking home as usual.
There aren't many war veterans alive any more, or those who were old enough during the war to remember much about it. But we all have heard the stories.
@fippodegyeoolies3629Get over it, it's about the staggering numbers of deceased using the well known narrative as reference. At least 225 000 people in my not mentioned country were killed, with almost 75% of the Jewish population exterminated and the same goes for many more countries.
For what it's worth we love the Canadians for their sacrifice in our liberation
@fippodegyeoolies3629 you have no idea how many Americans who love history know and understand what the Canadians did during the war. We appreciate what you guys achieved at the time.
@@nelltheretrogamer I believe it is not mentioned because Finland didn't fight the Nazis. The main focus was the world vs the Axis powers (mainly Germany and Japan)
Did you know, there's a plague at Karolinska Institute in Stockholm commemorating the Finnish soldiers that were treated there between 1939-1945 from Sotainvalidien Veljesliitto as a thank you. 🇫🇮🤝🏻🇸🇪❤️
Ну так и вы не упоминаете что Финляндия воевала на стороне Гитлера и держала блакаду Ленинграда, а также у вас были концентрационные лагеря.
@@TheFagundas They basically hat no other choice since the Soviet Union invaded Finland on Nov. 30 1939.
As a 21 year old living in Poland, now facing great threats of war right again, this video (as you can probably imagine) was incredibly important to me. Just to know in what state our country was for a long tie after, and how many of us died, knowing the stories of my great grandparents and their children its just insane how greatful I am for you for displaying how devestatng it was especially for Poland. thank you from the bottom of my heart, till this very day I did not know the numbers myself. not to that extent
You face nothing. Russia wants nothing from the Europe, stop listening to lies. Ukraine tried very, very hard to get to this point, intentionally. There will be no march to the west as your media tries to tell you, there is nothing to gain from it, only losses.
My grandfathers had very different experiences of the Second World War.
My maternal grandfather was forcibly sent to Germany to work after the surrender of France. He found himself on a boat on what is now the Polish border, without speaking a word of German. It was very hard, and once he fell into the water and almost drowned because he couldn't swim. Nevertheless, he was lucky enough to fall in with a sympathetic family, whose son had gone off to fight on the Russian front.
He was eventually freed by the Russians, but found himself walking until he was exhausted. With two other Frenchmen, they fled and found refuge on a German farm, where they worked for food and shelter.
When my grandfather finally returned to France, he had new French and German friends and had promised himself to learn German. He kept in touch with the German family until the Berlin Wall was built.
My paternal grandfather's story is more unfortunate: at the age of 19, he became a member of the Resistance. One day, he had gone to his parents' house to do his laundry when his Resistance camp came under attack. All his companions were killed, and he had to flee to the South of France because a neighbor had denounced him to the Nazis.
Long after the war was over, he was still traumatized and didn't want his children to wear their hair like the Germans, for example. But my father learned German, and my name, my grandfather's name, is German too.
sounds to me more like that they had very similar experiences?
Some years ago during the National Alpini gathering, I met one of the latest partisan still alive. My friends and I offered him a glass of wine while he told us what it was like to live those moments. A piece of advice to all young people, talk to these people, have them tell you about them, no video, no history lesson, can make you understand how much a story told by someone who has lived through those things. And the scariest thing is not the big events, but the small ones. I remember my grandmother - born in 1936 - who even as an old woman told about the time a German soldier gave her a small single-serving package of jam, she had never seen one, she described it as one of the best moments of her childhood. The grandfather of a friend of mine had a phobia of the empty refrigerator until the end of his days, he had suffered so much from hunger during the Italian campaign in Africa that he couldn't stand to see the empty refrigerator.
And we complained about the lockdown.
P.S. Soon there will be no one left of those who were alive then.
Great animation and very humane commenting!
Yet, I'd like to note that it's extremely difficult to collect and verify data over such a wide topic. Particularly, may I notice that information about Soviet history is poorly available in English and mainly was presented by publications made after USSR had crashed, by the powers that weren't interested to reflect Stalin's regime in the best or true colors. Neither for local public nor for international. That may describe the emphasis on the GULAG and not mentioning of the genocide nature of many of civil Russians' deaths in the camps along with the Jews.
But, anyway, the delivery is extraordinarily impressive and clear!
The long peace is over.
It was never here.
Never existed never will exist
Where's the link to the original video?
As a German I have often heard "you have to move on, you are a different country now" but if you look at these numbers how can you just move on? Of course I am not responsible for what happened, but I am responsible for what will happen. I understand why many in my country are very careful about escalation with Russia, I feel it, even though I disagree. Its a democracy, my opinion matters just as much as the others.