A lot of the side wrinkles are eliminated from the sides in historical corsets and stays by cutting the side pieces on the bias. Or almost bias. They tend to be tilted to allow curving around the body. I know modern corsets each one is cut on the grain but this is why it crinkles. Like the iconic bunny bodysuit. Another great video like always!
I've come across this specific website before, but was never quite confident in my drafting. I'm very glad you went over this to show how much less daunting it is!
Yay, I'm glad it was helpful! 🧡 (Honestly...I think the hardest thing about drafting IS having confidence to do it. That's what gets in my way every time.)
8:47 if you don’t like the math, an easy way to divide something like these tabs equally is to use a non-stretch ribbon or cord the same length as the total length and fold it into however many sections you need- for 4 sections, fold it in half and in half again. Mark on the cord where the folds are, and then lay it out over the edge where you are marking your divisions to transfer the measurements.
the last time I used a custom corset generator, the fit was horrendous! it took my bust measurement, and just divided it in half for front and back. all very well, but my back is so much smaller. so the arm pit area was halfway up my bust. I ended up taking it apart to rectify the issue, and having to change every piece. would of been quicker for me to just draft it from scratch. thank god for mockups! gotta love a good princess bride reference 😂
That's why I like this pattern so much. It takes cup size into account, and it goes past D cups, which is awesome! I haven't looked at the proportions on the CCG to see how the thing changes in relation to cup size, but I bet it does vary.
Oh yeah! I tried to make one of these in 2006, but since I barely knew how to sew I failed miserably! Thank you for inspiring me to try again in the near future.
Yes!! I totally remember using this stays pattern generator years ago, to make my first pair. It makes me so happy to learn it's still around! I find drafting to be quite fun now, and I credit it as my introduction to it.
Wow .. thank you .. I'm just researching stays as I live in a house that was built in 1760 so I want to make an appropriate costume!! I live in Wales In the UK Your videos are soo helpful thank you
Hi. This is the first time I've found your channel and I really enjoyed watching. I've been a 17th century re-enactor for about 30 years and drafted my stays pattern a long time ago. Apart from the inevitable problem of them shrinking in the wardrobe during the winter they still fit fairly well. I have a large bust and have found that the best way to get the girls corralled into the right place is to angle the outer boning channel towards the under arm. 👏👏
My first attempt at a corset was just the upper half, based (pretty loosely by the end of modifications) on the Athletic Corset from Foundations Revealed, in an attempt to make something more comfortable than a sports bra (I HATE underboob bands, they're always too tight and regular sports bras always try to squoosh everything out the arm holes) and I ended up doing exactly the opposite with the side boning, in the pattern it angled to the rear but I angled it forward instead to encourage the girls to stay up front and get out of my armpits. On the mockup I did one side each way and was way happier with my revision than the original. Mockups are so worth it! And thanks to your post I now know I have things to try with the boning if I ever do make stays! So far my most comfortable supportive garment I've made has been my kirtle pinafore, drafted according to Morgan Donner's video and my to-do list includes seeing if that pattern can be chopped up into a smaller support garment. I'm not a re-enactor but a medieval armoured fighter looking for comfortable and historically adequate garb to wear when not armoured up.
That's great feedback, thank you! I, too, get intimidated by drafting...although every time, if I'm honest, the anticipation is WAY worse than the action itself 🧡
Yes!!! ❤ love a princess bride reference!!! 😂 I would love to know your opinion on what era of corset is the most comfortable because I’ve seen you make quite a few corsets now! Love the content and how honest you are during the fitting! I also love the helpful tips you include😊 These look amazing! So glad I found you! I started teaching myself to sew about a year and a half ago and have been slowly getting more and more interested in historical projects purely because my body would look so much better in more vintage and historical looks compared to fashion today. I actually got a job at a sewing workroom recently and am learning so much and wishing I had an industrial machine now lol.
Thank you so much! 😁 As far as which eras are the most comfortable...I'm partial to the 18th century, because they stop right below the waist. But I would say honestly most of the eras I've made have been comfy, even--surprisingly--the 1640's stays, which I thought would be awkward with the busk. The most uncomfortable for sure are Regency long stays, BECAUSE of the busk. And that's so cool! Industrials are soooo nice!
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming I am in love with the speed the industrials can get up to…when I use my machine at home after being at work it feels like a grandma driving to church on Sunday while I have the pedal all the way down 😂. I was looking into trying a regency short stay corset to replace my super uncomfortable less than stretchy sports bra but I’m unsure it would work…I was just hoping it would be easier to get in and out of 😂 I feel like I have to do a magic dance to get out of a sports bra…and then they roll up on you and there’s no clasps….I have a lot of grievances with women’s clothing I guess😆
Lol I just went to the site, tapped in my numbers and now I have something to draft out😹😹😹 if this works out, I will be kicking my butt from here to the moon and back, thinking of all the money I have spent on the different types of corsets and stays 😹😹😹😹😹
I think some of your issue in the mock-up on the tabs is because you added your fabric straight edge to curved edge. I would have sewn on extra straight of grain to straight. That would have helped. Your heavy layer is off grain to the muslin layer. I appreciate the link to the website.
Just found your channel. Woot-Woot! Actually, I have an associate degree in Architectural Drafting-- from 40 years ago. Math still sucks for me eventhough I also have an associate degree in Accounting. Math still sucks. Don't do any of that stuff now. I think Math sucks is universal! Thanks for a great video. Subbing now!
i just found your channel, thank you for sharing your knowledge! I‘ll definetly safe this for when i actually get around to doing this. I am so impressed by your production level!
I'm sure I've got that site bookmarked and actually did draft and mock up something using an old pillowcase and it wasn't that bad considering I'm effectively a brick with boobs, but then something else shiny caught my attention and it went into the mockups bin to be forgottten. Time to go revisit it, now that I know the difference between a corset and stays LOL, and thanks for pointing out how to find the sneaky little details I'll probably want too! I'll probably have the opposite problem you do, I'm broad through the back which makes me measure like I have a much bigger bust than I do. And through trying some other form fitting things I have discovered that all my measurements lie so I HAVE to mock up anything fitted that I haven't made before, and even if I have used that pattern before, I need to at least start with a mockup that can be used as lining. My half-corset sports bra and corset vest attempts have shown me that my lower ribs DO NOT WANT reduction but my belly fat is perfectly happy to go somewhere else, if only I had more than an inch between my bottom rib and the top of my hip.... and I suspect my anatomy will do well with some crescent boob cups in there to prevent things from slithering down the front (thank you for that mental image, Mariah Pattie). I'm getting used to drafting based on my measurements because even if I try to start with a commercial pattern I have to do a lot of modifications, just as an example if I use Mood's sizing on their free patterns, my bust is size 12, my hips are size 8 and my waist is size 18 just based on measurements... but I'm also getting used to how my measurements lie. I always have to take in the bust because my girls are wide without sticking out that much, and I have to move the waistline down two inches if it's to be a loadbearing waistband but to use the same measurement as my "natiral waist" because otherwise the waistband slides off over my barely-there hips.
Wow, no wonder you gravitate towards drafting! Sounds difficult! Although I will say, on the Mood front, their sizing (and the patterns) are a little wonky on their own 😣
I'm not precisely sure what you mean about cutting it in parts. The pattern is one piece, a left and right side. Or do you mean the straps? If it's the straps, no, that was a personal choice. A good way to get paper is to use your junk mail. Just iron out any creases in the paper first, use a low iron setting. Sales circulars are really good, because they're usually bigger, but only use the glossy ones and not the newspaper-y ones, ink will smudge your fabric.
I sure did! I've made a couple of them, and it was absolutely the best thing I ever did for myself! Costuming Drama's got a really good tutorial over on her channel if you're looking for one!
I want to make a pair of stays, but haven't tried yet because I sew and live alone (and my shoulders both suck) so lacing a laced corset or stays is a contortionist act and just not fun. Maybe later, but I'm thinking about drafting this
Hehe, I put a front zipper in my sports bra corset attempt, and the corset vest I made from a princess seam bodice block is front lacing too. If you can't get into the thing with straps in place you can always try having them attached at the back then just bend over till they fall over your shoulders so you can reach them to button them (this was how I fitted the strap placement on mine cause my shoulders suck too). Life's all about the workarounds!
what if you do cent insted of inch? i got this "Step 8 Draw a horizontal line at this point from the vertical center front line 59.5 cm. out to the left. Measure down 0.25 cm. from the left end of the line, and mark this point D." and 1/4 of a cent is not much but its more than you got XDD
Unfortunately, I don't have experience altering for that particular issue 😪 I did some looking around and found this : diywardrobe.co.uk/2016/10/30/flared-lower-ribs-adjustment/ although it's more for standard patterns and I'm not sure it's helpful :/ but I'll ask around, and if I find anything out, I'll let you know!
i want to make one since i can't seem to find what i want online but i also want it to be good and last and i have no sewing expeience at all so i'm very intimidated by a project like this, i also have very little time thanks to my job.
This is definitely a good first stays project! But also definitely not a good first project ever. I'd recommend starting with some other things first--tackle a smock/chemise, petticoat, pocket, bum roll. That will help you develop your skills so that when you're finally ready to tackle (and fit!) your stays, it's less intimidating 😊 Also! My best advice for new corsetry/staymakers is to allow yourself to make mistakes in your first couple. Staymaking is a skill! You need to practice to make perfect. Go in expecting the first couple to have mistakes. Because they will. If you go in with that mindset, you will be less frustrated 🧡
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming thanks for the advice. Your video was fun to watch and kept me entertained while delivering the infomation you wanted to get across.
I love the idea of drafting and I’ve tried this before. I think my issue is that my body changes dramatically day by day so my measurements are always wrong. I think maybe I just need to measure myself for a week and see what I get. But then the question is do I use an average, the smallest or largest numbers? What do you think?
I think it depends on where you fluctuate. Small side of your average is probably best, because you can always lace it wider, but it'll only close so much. I think your best bet is to make it front and back lacing, and make sure at least one side of your straps attach with eyelets. That'd give you extra places to adjust with your fluctuation. I know the effigy stays from this time period have front lacing, so it's accurate, although you wouldn't get the nice slick front like these.
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming front and back lacing. Good idea. Never thought about changing the strap placement. Thanks so much. I’ll give it another go ❤️
@@LixiaWinter oh stomacher is a great idea. I have in the past made them larger as I figured I could take them in but I think I may like your approach better. Thank you ☺️
I feel your pain! My neighbours dog will not stop barking either! It's not the dogs fault they laughed when she started and whine in a singsong baby voice to ask her to stop! Frustrating! Hopefully your neighbours will get better or move! The stays look great I've saved the video so that I can play too when I'm not in such a busy time!
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming They Keystone guide to jacket and dress cutting. It's an 1890s sewing manual that's super confusing if your not experienced lol
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming The skirt and vest pattern are really popular. Bernadette made them for her Lady Sherlock ensemble. I've wanted to dabble in other items from the book, but filming that would be PAIN haha!
Hi there! Thanks for watching!! Sorry you're having issues. I just checked the link via the video, and typed it into Google as well, and got to the website without difficulty. Then I wondered if my cookies were remembering, so I tried it on my work computer and still was able to access it fine. Try using a different browser, or maybe it's a firewall thing?
While this is a neat resource for 1700s stays, the video title is rather misleading. This is not a corset pattern. You cannot easily make a corset from this website. I got excited and then was very disappointed.
The UA-cam algorithm doesn't like the word "stays" like it does "corset." The thumbnail obviously shows stays (but not 18th century stays, not sure where you got that from, they're Elizabethan, so late 16th-early 17th.) In addition, the average beginner, who this video is catering to, doesn't distinguish between the two terms. 🤷♀️
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy your video. Not sure about the algorithm thing, have to take your word for that; though the algorithm cannot improve if people put the wrong words in the titles. My youtube starts playing the videos as scrolI through them, so the thumbnail was only there for a second for me to see. Also, I am a beginner at historical costuming. I made my first corset this summer and am looking for a better pattern to work with my nonstandard dimensions. I think most beginners should know stays are different from a corset before they reach the desperation level required to decide to make their own. I do know the difference between corsets and stays, though apparently not the difference between eras of stays. They all look pretty similar from late 1600-1700s. Sorry if that offended you. Wasn't trying to pick a fight or anything. I just wanted to let you know the title was misleading. I still watched the video because I intend to make some stays soon-ish as well as a new corset.
No offense taken! I do actually appreciate the feedback. I agree with you that everyone should know the difference between the two terms. It was a conscious decision I had to make, though, so I wanted to convey that. I do have a corset resource for you. I can't link because YT doesn't like it, but if you go to corset pattern maker . com (w/o spaces), they do the same thing as the site on this video, only with a (free) custom Renaissance fair bodice and a Victorian corset (which is not free, it's $20.) You do get a digital pattern and don't have to draw it yourself. I can't speak for how good the pattern is, I haven't used them yet. I do intend to do a video on the Ren bodice at some point, but if you're a beginner and have unconventional proportions, that may be a better step for you to learn how your body is unique--because that is absolutely the only hard part about corsetry. Once you understand how to fit, everything else clicks. Laughing Moon's Dore corset is also a decent pattern and is much cheaper, although from someone who also has unconventional proportions, I had to modify that thing a LOT. But their instructions are pretty good, and unlike a lot of corset patterns out there, they take cup size into consideration. I'm glad to hear you're wanting to do stays--to be honest, fitting and making stays is much easier and more forgiving to beginners, because you don't have to curve things, and don't need expensive steel boning or steel busks (just heavy duty zip ties and maybe a paint stick from Home Depot.) I'd totally encourage you to try that first--each set of stays or corset you do will be easier and more successful, especially where fitting is concerned. And if it's something you're less enthusiastic about, you'll get less frustrated if things go wrong (which they will, it's part of the process...and we all experience it.)
You're so welcome! I'd love to see them when you're done! And that's a great point--I forgot to mention that! Whoohoo for instant measurement conversion! 🥳
A lot of the side wrinkles are eliminated from the sides in historical corsets and stays by cutting the side pieces on the bias. Or almost bias. They tend to be tilted to allow curving around the body. I know modern corsets each one is cut on the grain but this is why it crinkles. Like the iconic bunny bodysuit.
Another great video like always!
Aaah interesting! That makes total sense! I learned something new today, whoohoo! And thanks for watching! 😁
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming thanks for the fun things to watch!
I've come across this specific website before, but was never quite confident in my drafting. I'm very glad you went over this to show how much less daunting it is!
Yay, I'm glad it was helpful! 🧡 (Honestly...I think the hardest thing about drafting IS having confidence to do it. That's what gets in my way every time.)
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming half the time for me it's figuring out the math, lolsob
Ugh. Math. It's evil and NOT in a fun way!
8:47 if you don’t like the math, an easy way to divide something like these tabs equally is to use a non-stretch ribbon or cord the same length as the total length and fold it into however many sections you need- for 4 sections, fold it in half and in half again. Mark on the cord where the folds are, and then lay it out over the edge where you are marking your divisions to transfer the measurements.
That's a GREAT tip! Thanks for sharing!
the last time I used a custom corset generator, the fit was horrendous! it took my bust measurement, and just divided it in half for front and back. all very well, but my back is so much smaller. so the arm pit area was halfway up my bust. I ended up taking it apart to rectify the issue, and having to change every piece. would of been quicker for me to just draft it from scratch. thank god for mockups! gotta love a good princess bride reference 😂
That's why I like this pattern so much. It takes cup size into account, and it goes past D cups, which is awesome! I haven't looked at the proportions on the CCG to see how the thing changes in relation to cup size, but I bet it does vary.
Oh yeah! I tried to make one of these in 2006, but since I barely knew how to sew I failed miserably! Thank you for inspiring me to try again in the near future.
You're welcome! Good luck!
Yes!! I totally remember using this stays pattern generator years ago, to make my first pair. It makes me so happy to learn it's still around! I find drafting to be quite fun now, and I credit it as my introduction to it.
Awesome! Yeah, it's great that it's still up and available! It's such a great resource.
I have done this corset a few times and it is very easy to draft. If memory serves drop the "D" point down from the waist about 1".
THANK YOU! Ok, I thought the "0" thing was weird. 👍
There is now a note saying to adjust by 1/2 inch, so maybe that is the 0 plus or minus a half inch?
Maybe!! Good catch!
Wow .. thank you .. I'm just researching stays as I live in a house that was built in 1760 so I want to make an appropriate costume!! I live in Wales In the UK
Your videos are soo helpful thank you
Wow, how cool is that! And yay, I'm glad you find them helpful! Good luck in your research!
Hi. This is the first time I've found your channel and I really enjoyed watching. I've been a 17th century re-enactor for about 30 years and drafted my stays pattern a long time ago. Apart from the inevitable problem of them shrinking in the wardrobe during the winter they still fit fairly well. I have a large bust and have found that the best way to get the girls corralled into the right place is to angle the outer boning channel towards the under arm. 👏👏
WHOOHOO another 17th century person! Hello and welcome! That's a great tip, thank you!
My first attempt at a corset was just the upper half, based (pretty loosely by the end of modifications) on the Athletic Corset from Foundations Revealed, in an attempt to make something more comfortable than a sports bra (I HATE underboob bands, they're always too tight and regular sports bras always try to squoosh everything out the arm holes) and I ended up doing exactly the opposite with the side boning, in the pattern it angled to the rear but I angled it forward instead to encourage the girls to stay up front and get out of my armpits. On the mockup I did one side each way and was way happier with my revision than the original. Mockups are so worth it! And thanks to your post I now know I have things to try with the boning if I ever do make stays! So far my most comfortable supportive garment I've made has been my kirtle pinafore, drafted according to Morgan Donner's video and my to-do list includes seeing if that pattern can be chopped up into a smaller support garment. I'm not a re-enactor but a medieval armoured fighter looking for comfortable and historically adequate garb to wear when not armoured up.
Are you related to Morgan Donner?
You sound so like her.
This is to die for. Thanks so much.
Hah! I am not, but that is fine praise indeed, thank you! So glad you enjoyed! 🧡
thanks for making this! i had a really hard time visualizing the pattern drafting just from the website, so this is super helpful!
Awesome! I'm so happy it helped!! Thanks for watching 😁
Terrified! Drafting is terror inducing! Do more of these and REALLYdumb them down! You make it approachable and that helps!😊
That's great feedback, thank you! I, too, get intimidated by drafting...although every time, if I'm honest, the anticipation is WAY worse than the action itself 🧡
Yes!!! ❤ love a princess bride reference!!! 😂 I would love to know your opinion on what era of corset is the most comfortable because I’ve seen you make quite a few corsets now! Love the content and how honest you are during the fitting! I also love the helpful tips you include😊 These look amazing! So glad I found you! I started teaching myself to sew about a year and a half ago and have been slowly getting more and more interested in historical projects purely because my body would look so much better in more vintage and historical looks compared to fashion today. I actually got a job at a sewing workroom recently and am learning so much and wishing I had an industrial machine now lol.
Thank you so much! 😁 As far as which eras are the most comfortable...I'm partial to the 18th century, because they stop right below the waist. But I would say honestly most of the eras I've made have been comfy, even--surprisingly--the 1640's stays, which I thought would be awkward with the busk. The most uncomfortable for sure are Regency long stays, BECAUSE of the busk.
And that's so cool! Industrials are soooo nice!
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming I am in love with the speed the industrials can get up to…when I use my machine at home after being at work it feels like a grandma driving to church on Sunday while I have the pedal all the way down 😂. I was looking into trying a regency short stay corset to replace my super uncomfortable less than stretchy sports bra but I’m unsure it would work…I was just hoping it would be easier to get in and out of 😂 I feel like I have to do a magic dance to get out of a sports bra…and then they roll up on you and there’s no clasps….I have a lot of grievances with women’s clothing I guess😆
Lol I just went to the site, tapped in my numbers and now I have something to draft out😹😹😹 if this works out, I will be kicking my butt from here to the moon and back, thinking of all the money I have spent on the different types of corsets and stays 😹😹😹😹😹
Muahahaha!! I feel like such an instigator! 😁😈 Hopefully it does work out!
I think some of your issue in the mock-up on the tabs is because you added your fabric straight edge to curved edge. I would have sewn on extra straight of grain to straight. That would have helped. Your heavy layer is off grain to the muslin layer. I appreciate the link to the website.
Thanks for the tip!
Just found your channel. Woot-Woot!
Actually, I have an associate degree in Architectural Drafting-- from 40 years ago.
Math still sucks for me eventhough I also have an associate degree in Accounting. Math still sucks. Don't do any of that stuff now. I think Math sucks is universal!
Thanks for a great video.
Subbing now!
Yay, hello and welcome!! So glad to have you here! 😄 And glad to know that even those that CAN do math still hate math. Hah!!!!
i just found your channel, thank you for sharing your knowledge! I‘ll definetly safe this for when i actually get around to doing this. I am so impressed by your production level!
Hello and welcome! And you totally should, it's a great pattern for sure. Thanks for watching! 😊
I need to remake some. This may be an interesting start
I highly encourage! 😁
Awesome, and 2 more followers to hit 1k . . .yippee🎉🎉🎉
Thank you! And OMG right? I'm freaking out a little 😆🤞
Fantastic great tutorial very helpful and inspiring thank you so much 👌
Thanks, so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Great resource. Thank you for sharing
You're welcome! Thanks for watching :)
Drafting a pattern 😮
😂 It's not as scary as it looks!
Keep it going !,, it very much for sharing.
Thank you, and thanks for watching!!
Thank you so much for this! I have been wanting to make stays but have been afraid to mess them up. This has helped me so much!
You're so very welcome! I'm glad it's helped! That fear of messing up is real, but the great thing is that stays are pretty forgiving.
You are such an inspiration. Thank you.
Aw, thanks! 🥰 I appreciate you!
You hit 1k!!!!! Yea for you 👏👏👏👏👏👏🏆
Thank you!! 🧡 So excited!
I'm sure I've got that site bookmarked and actually did draft and mock up something using an old pillowcase and it wasn't that bad considering I'm effectively a brick with boobs, but then something else shiny caught my attention and it went into the mockups bin to be forgottten. Time to go revisit it, now that I know the difference between a corset and stays LOL, and thanks for pointing out how to find the sneaky little details I'll probably want too! I'll probably have the opposite problem you do, I'm broad through the back which makes me measure like I have a much bigger bust than I do. And through trying some other form fitting things I have discovered that all my measurements lie so I HAVE to mock up anything fitted that I haven't made before, and even if I have used that pattern before, I need to at least start with a mockup that can be used as lining. My half-corset sports bra and corset vest attempts have shown me that my lower ribs DO NOT WANT reduction but my belly fat is perfectly happy to go somewhere else, if only I had more than an inch between my bottom rib and the top of my hip.... and I suspect my anatomy will do well with some crescent boob cups in there to prevent things from slithering down the front (thank you for that mental image, Mariah Pattie).
I'm getting used to drafting based on my measurements because even if I try to start with a commercial pattern I have to do a lot of modifications, just as an example if I use Mood's sizing on their free patterns, my bust is size 12, my hips are size 8 and my waist is size 18 just based on measurements... but I'm also getting used to how my measurements lie. I always have to take in the bust because my girls are wide without sticking out that much, and I have to move the waistline down two inches if it's to be a loadbearing waistband but to use the same measurement as my "natiral waist" because otherwise the waistband slides off over my barely-there hips.
Wow, no wonder you gravitate towards drafting! Sounds difficult! Although I will say, on the Mood front, their sizing (and the patterns) are a little wonky on their own 😣
Wow thanks for this info!
You're very welcome 😄
Very cool 😀
Thanks!
Love this! Thanks souch for sharing ❤
You're very welcome! 🧡 Thanks for watching ☺️
Do you have to cut it into part's, I also ran out of money and paper
I'm not precisely sure what you mean about cutting it in parts. The pattern is one piece, a left and right side. Or do you mean the straps? If it's the straps, no, that was a personal choice.
A good way to get paper is to use your junk mail. Just iron out any creases in the paper first, use a low iron setting. Sales circulars are really good, because they're usually bigger, but only use the glossy ones and not the newspaper-y ones, ink will smudge your fabric.
Did you make the lacing strips for your corset?
I sure did! I've made a couple of them, and it was absolutely the best thing I ever did for myself! Costuming Drama's got a really good tutorial over on her channel if you're looking for one!
I want to make a pair of stays, but haven't tried yet because I sew and live alone (and my shoulders both suck) so lacing a laced corset or stays is a contortionist act and just not fun. Maybe later, but I'm thinking about drafting this
You could easily make it front lacing instead, just cut 2 instead of cutting 1 on the fold! No contortion necessary 😁
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming true. I do have a yard or two of cotton canvas I don't have any real plans for, so far
Hehe, I put a front zipper in my sports bra corset attempt, and the corset vest I made from a princess seam bodice block is front lacing too. If you can't get into the thing with straps in place you can always try having them attached at the back then just bend over till they fall over your shoulders so you can reach them to button them (this was how I fitted the strap placement on mine cause my shoulders suck too). Life's all about the workarounds!
what if you do cent insted of inch? i got this "Step 8
Draw a horizontal line at this point from the vertical center front line 59.5 cm. out to the left. Measure down 0.25 cm. from the left end of the line, and mark this point D." and 1/4 of a cent is not much but its more than you got XDD
Hah! Weird! You're totally right, the same measurements in metric get a 1/4 cm drop. For all the good that does 🤣
Hey so I have a friend who is curious about adjusting the pattern for flared ribs. Any advice you could offer?
Unfortunately, I don't have experience altering for that particular issue 😪 I did some looking around and found this : diywardrobe.co.uk/2016/10/30/flared-lower-ribs-adjustment/ although it's more for standard patterns and I'm not sure it's helpful :/ but I'll ask around, and if I find anything out, I'll let you know!
i want to make one since i can't seem to find what i want online but i also want it to be good and last and i have no sewing expeience at all so i'm very intimidated by a project like this, i also have very little time thanks to my job.
This is definitely a good first stays project! But also definitely not a good first project ever. I'd recommend starting with some other things first--tackle a smock/chemise, petticoat, pocket, bum roll. That will help you develop your skills so that when you're finally ready to tackle (and fit!) your stays, it's less intimidating 😊
Also! My best advice for new corsetry/staymakers is to allow yourself to make mistakes in your first couple. Staymaking is a skill! You need to practice to make perfect. Go in expecting the first couple to have mistakes. Because they will. If you go in with that mindset, you will be less frustrated 🧡
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming thanks for the advice. Your video was fun to watch and kept me entertained while delivering the infomation you wanted to get across.
I love the idea of drafting and I’ve tried this before. I think my issue is that my body changes dramatically day by day so my measurements are always wrong. I think maybe I just need to measure myself for a week and see what I get. But then the question is do I use an average, the smallest or largest numbers? What do you think?
I think it depends on where you fluctuate. Small side of your average is probably best, because you can always lace it wider, but it'll only close so much. I think your best bet is to make it front and back lacing, and make sure at least one side of your straps attach with eyelets. That'd give you extra places to adjust with your fluctuation. I know the effigy stays from this time period have front lacing, so it's accurate, although you wouldn't get the nice slick front like these.
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming front and back lacing. Good idea. Never thought about changing the strap placement. Thanks so much. I’ll give it another go ❤️
If you made them too small, you can always make a stomacker and/or additional back panel
@@LixiaWinter oh stomacher is a great idea. I have in the past made them larger as I figured I could take them in but I think I may like your approach better. Thank you ☺️
I feel your pain! My neighbours dog will not stop barking either! It's not the dogs fault they laughed when she started and whine in a singsong baby voice to ask her to stop! Frustrating! Hopefully your neighbours will get better or move!
The stays look great I've saved the video so that I can play too when I'm not in such a busy time!
Yeah, it's one of those things, like, it's a dog, hard to stay mad, but it's frustrating 😫 So glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!
You should be able to use a regular eraser to get the Frixion ink off.
🤯🤯🤯🤯 I'm going to have to try that!
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming You might even be able to just rub your finger over it a few times. Just takes a little heat or friction.
I heard no barking...police/fire sirens yes, barking, no. Barking, however, doesn't bother me at all!
LOL! Weirdly, the barking bothers me more than the sirens. I live off of a highway. Guess I just don't notice them anymore 😆
Math hurts my brain. Some kind soul should do this for the keystone patterns lol
You'll have to enlighten me--what are the keystone patterns?
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming They Keystone guide to jacket and dress cutting. It's an 1890s sewing manual that's super confusing if your not experienced lol
Ooooh gotcha! Hm...sounds like a challenge...🤔
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming The skirt and vest pattern are really popular. Bernadette made them for her Lady Sherlock ensemble. I've wanted to dabble in other items from the book, but filming that would be PAIN haha!
@@KelseyDrummer I think that Nicole Rudolph also had a post about drafting from that book.
Well this sucks. The website and link no longer work. GRRRRRRRRRRR!!! Now what? Where to go?
Hi there! Thanks for watching!! Sorry you're having issues. I just checked the link via the video, and typed it into Google as well, and got to the website without difficulty. Then I wondered if my cookies were remembering, so I tried it on my work computer and still was able to access it fine. Try using a different browser, or maybe it's a firewall thing?
While this is a neat resource for 1700s stays, the video title is rather misleading. This is not a corset pattern. You cannot easily make a corset from this website. I got excited and then was very disappointed.
The UA-cam algorithm doesn't like the word "stays" like it does "corset." The thumbnail obviously shows stays (but not 18th century stays, not sure where you got that from, they're Elizabethan, so late 16th-early 17th.) In addition, the average beginner, who this video is catering to, doesn't distinguish between the two terms. 🤷♀️
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy your video. Not sure about the algorithm thing, have to take your word for that; though the algorithm cannot improve if people put the wrong words in the titles. My youtube starts playing the videos as scrolI through them, so the thumbnail was only there for a second for me to see. Also, I am a beginner at historical costuming. I made my first corset this summer and am looking for a better pattern to work with my nonstandard dimensions. I think most beginners should know stays are different from a corset before they reach the desperation level required to decide to make their own. I do know the difference between corsets and stays, though apparently not the difference between eras of stays. They all look pretty similar from late 1600-1700s. Sorry if that offended you. Wasn't trying to pick a fight or anything. I just wanted to let you know the title was misleading. I still watched the video because I intend to make some stays soon-ish as well as a new corset.
No offense taken! I do actually appreciate the feedback. I agree with you that everyone should know the difference between the two terms. It was a conscious decision I had to make, though, so I wanted to convey that.
I do have a corset resource for you. I can't link because YT doesn't like it, but if you go to corset pattern maker . com (w/o spaces), they do the same thing as the site on this video, only with a (free) custom Renaissance fair bodice and a Victorian corset (which is not free, it's $20.) You do get a digital pattern and don't have to draw it yourself. I can't speak for how good the pattern is, I haven't used them yet. I do intend to do a video on the Ren bodice at some point, but if you're a beginner and have unconventional proportions, that may be a better step for you to learn how your body is unique--because that is absolutely the only hard part about corsetry. Once you understand how to fit, everything else clicks. Laughing Moon's Dore corset is also a decent pattern and is much cheaper, although from someone who also has unconventional proportions, I had to modify that thing a LOT. But their instructions are pretty good, and unlike a lot of corset patterns out there, they take cup size into consideration.
I'm glad to hear you're wanting to do stays--to be honest, fitting and making stays is much easier and more forgiving to beginners, because you don't have to curve things, and don't need expensive steel boning or steel busks (just heavy duty zip ties and maybe a paint stick from Home Depot.) I'd totally encourage you to try that first--each set of stays or corset you do will be easier and more successful, especially where fitting is concerned. And if it's something you're less enthusiastic about, you'll get less frustrated if things go wrong (which they will, it's part of the process...and we all experience it.)
Thank you so much I will def. try it. And the best part? It transfers from Inch to cm with one klick-hurray. No math needed indeed. 🪡
You're so welcome! I'd love to see them when you're done! And that's a great point--I forgot to mention that! Whoohoo for instant measurement conversion! 🥳