I'm going to play a Kobold who's Copper Dragon was killed, and the kingdom who the copper dragon blessed does nothing, and may have even had a hand in his murder. "He blessed your fields, your herds, your mother's... And you murdered him? Why? Because you tired of feeding him cake?!?"
In our table's setting we have a mage's college in a big city. The head master is an great old wyrm copper dragon who lives most of their life looking like a wizened old gnome wizard.
I have always liked the idea of Coper Dragons running thieves' guilds, but I always assume it's more of a respectable thieves' guild. Full of Thief Acrobats and Spy Masters and other highly talented individuals. No grizzled cut-throats and evil monsters. They'd be responsible for pulling high level art theft, or perhaps the "disappearance" of the statue of the founder of the city from the main square.
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I imagine a Copper dragon bouncing from party to party taking a human form that looks, and acts, like The Ghost of Christmas Present from The Muppet Christmas Carol😂❤️
Maybe a Finishing school of 3 Dragons. Copper Mercury and Steel. Aplace for Aristocrats and learn the performing arts and craft art. Then students try figure out the secrets of the 3 dragons.
I'd had an idea earlier today for a campaign: after somehow being coaxed into visiting the copper dragon's lair (possibly even as part of an elaborate prank devised by the dragon, using servants or even polymorphed into a humanoid form), the dragon sends the party on a mission to retrieve a particular item for it. The party wouldn't know much about the item beyond how to know when they've found it, and once they return with it, they learn that it was actually something that was already going to be sent to the dragon anyway: it's just an elaborate scroll case that holds a recipe for a particular dish the dragon has come to enjoy.
Ah, I remember running an adventure around "The Great Game"... The party slayed several dragons. Wasn't until the final dragon, or so they thought, fell and decided to be a sore looser by detonating a volcano and destroying a wonderful little city called Crystal Shores Adventuring Community- that they learned that they, and all the other adventures in the Guild, were mere pawns in the Great Game. Unofficial pawns of a particularly intelligent and very clever Purple Dragon called, "Moonlaced Razor". Needless to say, despite all the subtle hints and clues laid out throughout the campaign, the lure of riches and glory proved too much of a distraction and in the end it was... Good Game, but Checkmate.
@@AJPickett “Forsooth! Tis, I- Meepo the Magnificent! Balladeer of the Badlands! Conjurer of miscellaneous objects! Apprentice of Azerajax the Astonishing! Aaaaannnddd … your dark lord’s entertainment tonight! So please, let me and my party- I mean, my groupies enter.” Upon denying the kobold’s request, the door guards of castle shademurk were subsequently crushed to death by a mysteriously appearing marble elephant statue.
This is the first I’m hearing of Xorvintaal and I just want to know more! It sounds like the coolest damn plot hook, dragons playing chess with their minions
Love the Dragon content recently, the last Dragon I used in a campaign was a Silver Dragon extremely loyal to Bahamut, but had a habit of "Claiming" chromatic eggs and raising them to be loyal to Bahamut and as a FU to Tiamat. Aside from that habit, it was very Paladin like in behavior.
Here's a way to have fun with a copper dragon: Come up with a riddle that has no real answer...like "What is ten feet long, has sixteen hands and builds houses made of gold?" Then make a bet with the dragon that you can tell it a riddle it can't answer. If the dragon hasn't had this sort of this thing pulled on it before, it will likely think about it, and then say "I don't know." Then you can say you don't know the answer either. The dragon will likely have a good laugh about it. Edit: Just be aware that the longer the dragon has lived, the more likely it will recognize the trick and call you out. You can probably succeed with this trick on a young copper dragon, somewhat likely on an adult, but somewhat unlikely with an ancient one.
In our last campaign, the party was traveling over a lost island looking to save / rescue some copper dragon eggs. As it turns out the whole thing was a ploy by the copper dragon herself to test the loyally of the party; and have a little fun at their expense. As a reward for being very entertaining she would allow one of her children to adventure with the party for one year then return with all the stories and loot they would have collected. Because of course the party would share. Now I ask you; was this a reward or just another LONG practical joke to play on the party? "Oh you want a good place to get treasure" spoke the the young wyrmling. "It just happens to know a hidden place far off in a place called Chult." DAM IT!
I assure you, that dragon is coming home with a lot more of the loot than the party bargained for... "Oh you need me to fly you over that ravine? Increase my treasure portion by 5%" etc, etc.
I would love a dedicated video on The Great Game, if you can manage it. Great work as always, AJ. I would expect no less from the hobbit nephew of a brass dragon.
really, pointing folks in the direction of Monster Manual 5 for 3.5 edition is all the lead they need on that one, all the info is there. As I mentioned, DM's should make the game within a game their own, put their own style and spin on it to always keep it fresh.
I’m here cause I may make a ‘human’ who once was a copper dragon yet was cursed into a human form so I’ll be sure to make him a bard. Glad I found this.
This makes me glad that I designed my drakewarden’s drake after a copper dragon. It fits the character I made more than anything. Playing the Tyranny of Dragons module with the Talis bond. Suffice to say, the copper dragon design makes a very suitable foil for some of the antagonists and other stuff going on. Chasing down a black dragon themed branch of the cult and there is mention of white dragons which, given that I’m told they like to bury copper colored treasure away from sight, also is suitable for the story I’m going with in terms of thematics. So thank you for the lore drop! It’s appreciated and gives me more to work with when conveying my character and her copper drake.
Drawing pictures in their own blood? What is insane about that? - Lord valefer- legendary vampire. Stil, fun as those dragons are, they are not for introverts. Come to think of it how would an introvert copper dragon look like ? And i might forgotten but what are the generally introverted dragons?
Copper dragon has item needed for game play (non time dependent), Copper dragon states doesn't have, try the village... Copper Dragon becomes humanoid and suggests party try the copper dragon for his knowledge, but bring specific item for correct answer. Party brings item to Copper dragon who tells them it is definitely in other village over mountain... Copper dragon in humanoid shape suggest see the copper dragon but need to bring artwork of the item they desire locked in palace... Party brings item to Copper dragon, repeat one more time (or until party realise) then copper dragon states "I don't have" with disadvantage and bluff with disadvantage and finally says great game, let's out a jolly laugh, pulls said item out of obscured chest as reward for "playing" with dragon, and thanks them for bringing him more treasure with 1 copper piece each and says run along now.
It would be great to have a full video on some of the ins and outs of Xorvintaal. Maybe an example of how the PCs may interact with the game. I personally want to base at least a section of my next campaign off it.
This great dragon game has given me an idea for a fun way to utilize our super talkative player: have him play as the copper dragon who picked the other pc's to use. He can telepathically communicate with all of them(complete with jokes and taunts of course) and maybe follow along in physical form as a pseudo dragon or some such so the player is involved directly! A game between four dragons... 4D chess 😆
I got the image when you were describing coppers of one using his acid/claws to paint an embossed peice of art. Lightly using his breath weapon or just placing some in a large jar and carefully applying it. Below him a squad of kobold in acid proof suits cleaning the debris and acid from below his feet.
In my homebrew world, there is a town of basically all intelligent species. Anyway; the part helped save the marriage of a bronze and blue dragon. It was really fun!
There's only one copper dragon that comes to mind when considering a published D&D campaign (minor spoilers ahead): I mentioned in a previous comment that in the latter half of the _The Rise of Tiamat_ adventure, you have to attend a meeting of ancient metallic dragons - one of each kind - and your goal is to convince them to work together with the humanoid factions of the Sword Coast to stop the Cult of the Dragon from bringing Tiamat to the Material Plane. Each dragon has a desire, a starting attitude and a concession they want in exchange for cooperation. Generally, each dragon also has a personal beef with a race or a class. The copper dragon in question is Tazmikella. Her "desire" is that while an immediate strike on the Cult would be good, she thinks having humanoid allies would be a big help. Her starting attitude is neutral, but any dragonborns in the PCs party will make her cautious, and anyone with a reputation for shady dealings (particularly rogues or bards, a bit of an irony considering this video) will make her unfriendly. The "concession" Tazmikella wants is more personal than the other dragons- she will _truthfully_ claim that one particular magic item in your party's possession was taken from her hoard long ago, and she wants it back - a Legend Lore spell cast on the item will confirm the veracity of her claim. Returning said item to Taz _with a sincere or convincing apology_ will raise her attitude by one stage in the party's favor - and if they succeed in raising her attitude to friendly, she may even allow the PCs to keep the item anyway - it was less that she valued the object and more that it was stolen from her, sort of like how a red dragon will go on a rampage if it discovers that even a single copper piece is taken from its hoard. So ironically, she seems quite atypical compared to other copper dragons. Tazmikella also owns a shop called "Mickey's Bag of Holding" in the Calishite city of Helgabal, where she poses as its human owner Mickey, and helped the drow Jarlaxle Baenre deal with the Darkening alongside her sister Ilzenehara, who owns another shop called "A Pocket Full of Zzzs" in the same city.
I do have a Dragon playing that game you mentioned. * DM Grin* Other than a traveler passing through behind the scenes polymorphed, my players haven't encountered a Copper as of yet. 🤣 Should be quite an exciting time whenever they do. (Especially, if it happens to be near an alehouse drake. ... They loved that.)
Another great video, thanks :) Your Draconic videos are, without a shadow of a doubt, my favourite of all you create. Full of imagery and inspiration, I've definitely used information you've presented to enhance my almost completely home-brewed D&D games. Again: many thanks.
I love this video so much! The mountains of draconic lore in these videos are amazing. I never heard "Xorvintaal" and I can't wait to see what new dragon lore comes next. I'll be sharing this video and the last one with my friends. Thank you for all your hard work and I can't wait to see which dragon comes next on your feed.
'Looks like I'm overlaying a chessboard on top of my new map in anticipation of 'The Great Game'. Much to the good humor/chagrin of my players...Hmm, yes.. 'Players'.' Agmmagnog Avlelel 'The Stray Thought' Copper Dragon
Sounds like a dragon I could spend weeks with either bsing with, or simply just trying to see how hard I could get one to laugh. I wonder if a copper dragon snorts from laughing, will a hint of their breath weapon slip free?
Cooper dragons are basically the other side of a coin when it comes to black dragons. When a black dragon is exposed to negative energy it can become a shadow dragon. Is their something special that can happen to a Cooper dragon if exposed to positive energy. And if not why not.
Any dragon can become a shadow dragon through such exposure. But you have a point. Why doesn't positive energy have a similar effect? Dragons certainly tend to adapt to the dominant elemental energy. How does this effect them? Is it a...positive change?
Can all dragons take part in Xorvintaal, or is it a copper thing? Im wondering if some chromatics are in on it. Sounds like a fun plothook. Like a green dragon being really annoyed at a party, but not doing anything because the rules say no.
All dragons can. I personally as a DM rule that half-dragons are eligible. If only to give PC's that sense of they thought it was a game... And then some very irate older dragons disabuse them of that notion.
Ah, the "Great Game." I was trying to find which video talked about it. I plan to use this in my upcoming campaign. Thank you! Edit, I recently came up with a great way to foreshadow Xorvintaal in my campaign I just started. It is listed below. *Work in progress build* The game Xorvinball. The idea is getting the Ball to the liar of your team, much like how dragons compete for treasure. The teams take turns doing this for a time, or first to 5 points. Each team has a goal shaped like a dragons head. Rules are simple. No killing. Spells of first level and lower are cool as long as they don't deal damage. Don't go out of bounds. Get the ball to the goal. One team plays offense while the other plays defense. The order of who plays what is determined by a coin toss, or something simple, with the winner choosing which side they want. Each game is five rounds. The player count is five to ten. Offense goes first in initiative. First, each team chooses their formation after devising a battle plan. Then the game starts! Each team can decide who goes first by planning, or initiative roll. Defending team can use reactions to try and stop the offensive team. Anything that uses an action can be used as a reaction in this game, including movement and spells. If the defensive team can intercept the ball, they switch to offense.
So are you saying that Xorvintaal has some long forgotten rule that all players must do X when under the King-Killer Star? But because they forgot the rule, all the players go insane when the comet appears and that is what really causes the Drocorages?
I am in absolutely no way saying anything remotely like that. If you want to include that in your game, by all means, I don't tell people how to play their games.
Hey Aj, great video. So I believe in your last video on the Brass Dragon you briefly mentioned the Harpers. I was wondering if you would be willing to make a video on them, there origins and goals as they seem an intentionally ambiguous organisation that often seem to be more meddlesome than helpful.
As always, an extremely good video, A.J.!! I do thing it's a shame that Tolkien's world and D&D parted ways back in the '70s. Copper Dragons should have a natural affinity for Hobbits & Gnomes. Pip seems like a character who could get along well with a Copper Dragon, in a sort of haphazard, irreverent way and Copper Dragons could be welcome (if warily so) guests in the Shire (especially since all the Dragons that are native to Arda are inherently evil). It would be nice for the two traditions to merge once more on friendly (and Elves once more being tall and immortal) terms. I would like to travel from Toril to Middle-earth or the Undying Lands through a portal via the Ether.
They do get along well and have such a rich history of interconnections and friendships that many share an almost extended family feeling toward each other. Its quite likely that the dragon will give the Satyr the benefit of the doubt, and vice versa, in many situations.
Coppers my fav! Funny and greedy. Btw! Brass= Tin + Copper, Bronze= Zinc + Copper... Imangine zinc and tin dragon.. could you imagine WotC officialy make such new dragons?? Now thats the joke!😂 Expanding each of the chromatic, gem and metallic dragon families from 5 to say 10 true dragons? THAT would be the day! I would get shocked
I know I’m a complete nerd but you got that backwards. Bronze is Tin + copper. And brass is zinc + copper. Also German silver is brass with nickel in it.
I get the feeling with some of these dragons that there aren't supposed to be many of them. It sounds like the lore paints them to have only one very specific personality... And damn with Kobolds like that I think it's crazy AJ's players aren't all murder hobos.
Just like the stat blocks, the monster manuals tend to present a "stock standard" version of each creature. Also, I am very good at playing convincing traitor kobolds.
@@AJPickett lmao I hope your players don't watch your videos or they may start calling you on your bluffs 🤣 Players who have lost trust in your NPCs will naturally devolve into murder hobos! It's the only logical conclusion to social detachment!
Copper Dragons would play and joke with you, giving pointers, if you want to get good at jokes, and teach you to do that. They'd even gleefully watch to see how well you learned to do it.
In some other universe or a planet fit for evolving such magnificent and deadly beasts, sure! Until them, imagination and source material is the step-in solution! Heck I imagined in my day dreams green and yellow dragons living in barely visible caves openings in a nearby mountain where I grew up. And my fantasy addiction started with Might&Magic and HoMM 3, not D&D. The elves of AvLee had such dragons as companions! 😊
Don't know anything at all about somewhat conventional dnd. I've only seen stuff like dimension 20. Which is a really fun thing, but its missing things like this. I went down a rabbit hole of these dragons and how interesting they are, and for some reason these fellows..they caught my attention, hearing about a creature like this was just very cool. Cause from what I understand of MOST creatures in dnd is they either dislike humans, or at the very least don't go out of their way to come into contact with them. But this guy goes out of his way to go to parties and likes jokes.
So if Copper dragons encourage a giddy lightness to everything compared to the depressing weight Black dragons encourage, then what does a Shadow-Copper dragon bring? I would think they'd encourage a Happy Medium. Neither looking to a bright future nor interested in wallowing in despondency. Truly an unimpressive specimen lacking ambition and drive. Still a dragon who will kill you if you take their stuff. Just. Lacking that vital joy that Coppers usually bring.
That image included in the video with all the chromatic and metallic dragons matched by their rank and their opposite match? Well, an easy way to handle a good or evil version of a dragon is to just flip the behaviour between the metallic and chromatid pair. You are right, a copper dragon that transforms eventually into a shadow dragon doesn't automatically become evil. Their humour would most likely get pretty sarcastic and dark, instead of "Hey, cheer up, its a joke!" it would become "Hey, who gives a shit, life is a joke!".
There is a GM Binder on the Fey Dragon. You should do one on that. it seems like an interesting option. I like it since its Neutral Good, which doesn't seem to ever be an alignment.
Informative & Entertaining as always! 👏👏👏 also, a while back in your (Excellent!) hour long presentation about Red Dragons, 15 minutes & 40 seconds in you spoke about Ashardalon who basically plunders a region in the astral plane called "The Bastion of Unborn Souls", do you have any information about this location & is there enough for an ecology about it? 😁
@@AJPickett awww 😞 oh well, maybe there's some secrets so profound that A O feels they are best kept hidden from the multiverse - lest they turn the brains of even the gods into a soggy gibbering ooze!!! 😯 😬 🤪 😵 🤯 💥 🧠 ↘️ 🕳️ 😁
so the theme of most metallic dragon as a adventure party is bronze as a paladin, copper as a bard or thieve, gold as a wizard or sorcerer, silver as what they as bard, fighter, monk anyclass
18:23 I feel like this could be easily accomplished without necessarily outright declaring the effect by randomly donning a large red clown nose and occasionally honking it after finishing sentences. This is even more likely to work if all the traps in dragon's lair are designed to humiliate rather than physical harm.
Thanks as always for the lession master sage! Though I have my biases towards Dragons I admit that Copper Dragons have earned my respect and favor, for whatever that is worth, my patron loves a good joke. Xorvintal is awesome! Anything psionic I am interested in. For totally good reasons i assure you *cough* *cough*
My players will find a petrified adult copper dragon in an ancient red dragon's hoard. Carved deeply into it's stony flesh, “What has a mouth but doesn’t speak? Has wings but can’t fly? Legs but can’t walk? And eyes but can’t see its folly?” Now I think it might steal some of the hoard from the players. Lighten their load so to speak. If they cure it.
I think this is the first video I've seen discussing kobolds working with metallic dragons. Is that perhaps a 5e thing? I was under the impression the good dragons didn't want anything to do with the kobolds.
Think the problem is the likelihood they already serve a chromatic. No dragon would want untrustworthy creatures near their lair and metallic tend to be good and therefore less willing to make an example of the diminutive yip yappers.
@@AJPickett I tend to have kobolds in my setting have a gradual change in scale color to that of the type of dragon they serve over generations. So, the older generations may still have hints and speckles of the color of the dragon their clan served before this one...assuming the transition was recent enough for that to still be evident. Some serve no dragons at all, living and grudgingly getting along with the other races of my setting. Though, they steadfastly believe they will one day serve again. Oh, and some of them believe their species once were dragons and must have been cursed into their current form long ago. Thus, some members of those clans embark on great quests to find a way to return their people to their rightful place in the skies. Maybe it's true... Who knows? Makes for a fun background choice for a player who wants to play as a kobold, though.
I'm going to play a Kobold who's Copper Dragon was killed, and the kingdom who the copper dragon blessed does nothing, and may have even had a hand in his murder. "He blessed your fields, your herds, your mother's... And you murdered him? Why? Because you tired of feeding him cake?!?"
In our table's setting we have a mage's college in a big city. The head master is an great old wyrm copper dragon who lives most of their life looking like a wizened old gnome wizard.
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Copper Dragons have always been my favorite. Thanks for putting them in a better light than just the simple prankster.
No problem 👍
This dragon sounds like the personification of "It's just a prank, bro"
The Ashton Kutcher of Dragons?
I have always liked the idea of Coper Dragons running thieves' guilds, but I always assume it's more of a respectable thieves' guild. Full of Thief Acrobats and Spy Masters and other highly talented individuals. No grizzled cut-throats and evil monsters. They'd be responsible for pulling high level art theft, or perhaps the "disappearance" of the statue of the founder of the city from the main square.
grizzled cut throats don't have to be evil, there are a lot of monster throats out there :)
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Teferi appears, stops time and steals the crown.... everyone agrees this was inevitable.
Gold Dragon - Tiger
Silver Dragon - Lion
Bronze Dragon - Jaguar
Brass Dragon - Leopard
Copper Dragon - Cheetah
Cheetahs are underestimated.
Move all of the old versions of these videos to a playlist called “vintage glue sticks” or something. They were still charming in their own right!
Imagine how excited a Copper would have if it was transported into a cyberpunk setting! I bet they would make great hackers!
@@rachdarastrix5251 Not to mention the most epic Rick Rolls they would pull.
Been in a dragon mode lately AJ? Because I'm loving it
Yeah :)
@@AJPickett can't wait to see what comes next. Love your videos are always a good source of inspiration for my games.
I imagine a Copper dragon bouncing from party to party taking a human form that looks, and acts, like The Ghost of Christmas Present from The Muppet Christmas Carol😂❤️
Steal Dragons and Copper Dragons seem like they would get along in artistic community.
Maybe a Finishing school of 3 Dragons. Copper Mercury and Steel.
Aplace for Aristocrats and learn the performing arts and craft art. Then students try figure out the secrets of the 3 dragons.
I'd had an idea earlier today for a campaign: after somehow being coaxed into visiting the copper dragon's lair (possibly even as part of an elaborate prank devised by the dragon, using servants or even polymorphed into a humanoid form), the dragon sends the party on a mission to retrieve a particular item for it. The party wouldn't know much about the item beyond how to know when they've found it, and once they return with it, they learn that it was actually something that was already going to be sent to the dragon anyway: it's just an elaborate scroll case that holds a recipe for a particular dish the dragon has come to enjoy.
Since you mentioned Cinder Dragons, I think it would be awsome to see a video about the hybrid dragon breeds
I can arrange that.
When it comes to the sleeping Dragon challenge, instead of stealing stuff, I would set up some whoopee cushions.
A Mad dragon that worships a Kobold and a Kobold that doesn't know what to do.
Or a dragon pretending to be mad, just to mess with the kobold...
@@lordgiblets7585 Such Potential! And what if... The dragon is Actually Mad?
So the shape change was a 5e nerf, so Dragons(I'm assuming mostly Metalic?) have a "Game of Hoards" lol
Ah, I remember running an adventure around "The Great Game"... The party slayed several dragons. Wasn't until the final dragon, or so they thought, fell and decided to be a sore looser by detonating a volcano and destroying a wonderful little city called Crystal Shores Adventuring Community- that they learned that they, and all the other adventures in the Guild, were mere pawns in the Great Game. Unofficial pawns of a particularly intelligent and very clever Purple Dragon called, "Moonlaced Razor". Needless to say, despite all the subtle hints and clues laid out throughout the campaign, the lure of riches and glory proved too much of a distraction and in the end it was... Good Game, but Checkmate.
If you gave a copper dragon a hat, would that not therefore mean that hat becomes a copper topper?
Im Loving the new way you are remakeing the dragon series in a new intressting way
Why am I just learning about The Great Game now? The wheels are turning.
You know, I could see serving a copper dragon being a good backstory for a kobold college of creation bard.
Yep, absolutely
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“Forsooth! Tis, I- Meepo the Magnificent! Balladeer of the Badlands! Conjurer of miscellaneous objects! Apprentice of Azerajax the Astonishing! Aaaaannnddd … your dark lord’s entertainment tonight! So please, let me and my party- I mean, my groupies enter.” Upon denying the kobold’s request, the door guards of castle shademurk were subsequently crushed to death by a mysteriously appearing marble elephant statue.
This is the first I’m hearing of Xorvintaal and I just want to know more! It sounds like the coolest damn plot hook, dragons playing chess with their minions
Love the Dragon content recently, the last Dragon I used in a campaign was a Silver Dragon extremely loyal to Bahamut, but had a habit of "Claiming" chromatic eggs and raising them to be loyal to Bahamut and as a FU to Tiamat. Aside from that habit, it was very Paladin like in behavior.
Lol. That actually sounds pretty on point for a Silver Dragon.
@@KyleJordanGaming It does.
Here's a way to have fun with a copper dragon:
Come up with a riddle that has no real answer...like "What is ten feet long, has sixteen hands and builds houses made of gold?" Then make a bet with the dragon that you can tell it a riddle it can't answer. If the dragon hasn't had this sort of this thing pulled on it before, it will likely think about it, and then say "I don't know." Then you can say you don't know the answer either. The dragon will likely have a good laugh about it.
Edit: Just be aware that the longer the dragon has lived, the more likely it will recognize the trick and call you out. You can probably succeed with this trick on a young copper dragon, somewhat likely on an adult, but somewhat unlikely with an ancient one.
What eats and eats, never sleeps, but won't taste food and has no teeth?
"Earth worm" would be my guess... at least in an indirect sense.
@@AJPickett I'd say time.
An acid
@AJ Pickett Rot
I can just imagine a Copper Dragon being keen on gambling and using his or her knowledge to win as much gold as possible.
A dragon probably wouldnt bet their hoard/gold as much as a human would bet their skin or hand.
@@Neazriel true. Yet they might be the one running the casino though.
I imagine a copper dragon would be a gambling dens bane if they were not the ones operating it
"You dirty Copper."
I'm probably most attuned to silver dragons, but I can respect how copper dragons roll just fine.
In our last campaign, the party was traveling over a lost island looking to save / rescue some copper dragon eggs. As it turns out the whole thing was a ploy by the copper dragon herself to test the loyally of the party; and have a little fun at their expense. As a reward for being very entertaining she would allow one of her children to adventure with the party for one year then return with all the stories and loot they would have collected. Because of course the party would share. Now I ask you; was this a reward or just another LONG practical joke to play on the party? "Oh you want a good place to get treasure" spoke the the young wyrmling. "It just happens to know a hidden place far off in a place called Chult." DAM IT!
I assure you, that dragon is coming home with a lot more of the loot than the party bargained for... "Oh you need me to fly you over that ravine? Increase my treasure portion by 5%" etc, etc.
@@AJPickett OH, ABSOLUTLY! Plus there has to be ongoing and repeated practical jokes; THE WHOLE WAY!
I would love a dedicated video on The Great Game, if you can manage it. Great work as always, AJ. I would expect no less from the hobbit nephew of a brass dragon.
really, pointing folks in the direction of Monster Manual 5 for 3.5 edition is all the lead they need on that one, all the info is there. As I mentioned, DM's should make the game within a game their own, put their own style and spin on it to always keep it fresh.
"Get yourself a lawyer, son..."
It's ironic...one of the people in my former party was in fact a lawyer irl. xD
While I personally love Silver Dragons, Copper Dragons seem to be similar in their love of more mortal life
I’m here cause I may make a ‘human’ who once was a copper dragon yet was cursed into a human form so I’ll be sure to make him a bard.
Glad I found this.
One of my favorites.
I imagine a Steel Dragon would be a rather unique underdog in xorvintaal
Very much so.
Ah, its got that fresh new video smell
Play pranks, make jokes... so familiar....
Pink Dragon?
Truly the Labrador of dragons
This makes me glad that I designed my drakewarden’s drake after a copper dragon. It fits the character I made more than anything. Playing the Tyranny of Dragons module with the Talis bond. Suffice to say, the copper dragon design makes a very suitable foil for some of the antagonists and other stuff going on. Chasing down a black dragon themed branch of the cult and there is mention of white dragons which, given that I’m told they like to bury copper colored treasure away from sight, also is suitable for the story I’m going with in terms of thematics. So thank you for the lore drop! It’s appreciated and gives me more to work with when conveying my character and her copper drake.
Drawing pictures in their own blood? What is insane about that? - Lord valefer- legendary vampire.
Stil, fun as those dragons are, they are not for introverts.
Come to think of it how would an introvert copper dragon look like ?
And i might forgotten but what are the generally introverted dragons?
Gem dragons are fairly introverted, as are Mercury dragons.
Yes please to the video on Cult of the Dragon!
Copper dragon has item needed for game play (non time dependent), Copper dragon states doesn't have, try the village... Copper Dragon becomes humanoid and suggests party try the copper dragon for his knowledge, but bring specific item for correct answer. Party brings item to Copper dragon who tells them it is definitely in other village over mountain... Copper dragon in humanoid shape suggest see the copper dragon but need to bring artwork of the item they desire locked in palace... Party brings item to Copper dragon, repeat one more time (or until party realise) then copper dragon states "I don't have" with disadvantage and bluff with disadvantage and finally says great game, let's out a jolly laugh, pulls said item out of obscured chest as reward for "playing" with dragon, and thanks them for bringing him more treasure with 1 copper piece each and says run along now.
It would be great to have a full video on some of the ins and outs of Xorvintaal. Maybe an example of how the PCs may interact with the game. I personally want to base at least a section of my next campaign off it.
I agree. It's on my to-do list
Awesome. I’m pumped you’re doing the Metallics again
This great dragon game has given me an idea for a fun way to utilize our super talkative player: have him play as the copper dragon who picked the other pc's to use. He can telepathically communicate with all of them(complete with jokes and taunts of course) and maybe follow along in physical form as a pseudo dragon or some such so the player is involved directly!
A game between four dragons... 4D chess 😆
Love waking up to a new video about D&D. Thanks AJ!
My pleasure!
I got the image when you were describing coppers of one using his acid/claws to paint an embossed peice of art. Lightly using his breath weapon or just placing some in a large jar and carefully applying it. Below him a squad of kobold in acid proof suits cleaning the debris and acid from below his feet.
Perfect timing AJ! I'm running a one-shot this weekend and one of my players told me today he wants to be a copper dragonborn.
10:29 "or mate with it" what!?
Tfw you wanted to kill an evil tyrant but hormones took over and you r*ped it instead
In my homebrew world, there is a town of basically all intelligent species. Anyway; the part helped save the marriage of a bronze and blue dragon. It was really fun!
There's only one copper dragon that comes to mind when considering a published D&D campaign (minor spoilers ahead):
I mentioned in a previous comment that in the latter half of the _The Rise of Tiamat_ adventure, you have to attend a meeting of ancient metallic dragons - one of each kind - and your goal is to convince them to work together with the humanoid factions of the Sword Coast to stop the Cult of the Dragon from bringing Tiamat to the Material Plane. Each dragon has a desire, a starting attitude and a concession they want in exchange for cooperation. Generally, each dragon also has a personal beef with a race or a class.
The copper dragon in question is Tazmikella. Her "desire" is that while an immediate strike on the Cult would be good, she thinks having humanoid allies would be a big help. Her starting attitude is neutral, but any dragonborns in the PCs party will make her cautious, and anyone with a reputation for shady dealings (particularly rogues or bards, a bit of an irony considering this video) will make her unfriendly. The "concession" Tazmikella wants is more personal than the other dragons- she will _truthfully_ claim that one particular magic item in your party's possession was taken from her hoard long ago, and she wants it back - a Legend Lore spell cast on the item will confirm the veracity of her claim. Returning said item to Taz _with a sincere or convincing apology_ will raise her attitude by one stage in the party's favor - and if they succeed in raising her attitude to friendly, she may even allow the PCs to keep the item anyway - it was less that she valued the object and more that it was stolen from her, sort of like how a red dragon will go on a rampage if it discovers that even a single copper piece is taken from its hoard. So ironically, she seems quite atypical compared to other copper dragons.
Tazmikella also owns a shop called "Mickey's Bag of Holding" in the Calishite city of Helgabal, where she poses as its human owner Mickey, and helped the drow Jarlaxle Baenre deal with the Darkening alongside her sister Ilzenehara, who owns another shop called "A Pocket Full of Zzzs" in the same city.
I do have a Dragon playing that game you mentioned. * DM Grin*
Other than a traveler passing through behind the scenes polymorphed, my players haven't encountered a Copper as of yet.
🤣 Should be quite an exciting time whenever they do. (Especially, if it happens to be near an alehouse drake. ... They loved that.)
Another great video, thanks :) Your Draconic videos are, without a shadow of a doubt, my favourite of all you create. Full of imagery and inspiration, I've definitely used information you've presented to enhance my almost completely home-brewed D&D games. Again: many thanks.
copper dragons are my favorite~
That game makes me think of Calvinball, only less complicated.
Xorvintaal, Copper vs Green
I want to spectate.
Just the juicy events tho, I don't have centuries to spare.
I love this video so much! The mountains of draconic lore in these videos are amazing. I never heard "Xorvintaal" and I can't wait to see what new dragon lore comes next. I'll be sharing this video and the last one with my friends. Thank you for all your hard work and I can't wait to see which dragon comes next on your feed.
Thanks Casey!
'Looks like I'm overlaying a chessboard on top of my new map in anticipation of 'The Great Game'. Much to the good humor/chagrin of my players...Hmm, yes.. 'Players'.'
Agmmagnog Avlelel 'The Stray Thought'
Copper Dragon
Sounds like a dragon I could spend weeks with either bsing with, or simply just trying to see how hard I could get one to laugh. I wonder if a copper dragon snorts from laughing, will a hint of their breath weapon slip free?
I've been meandering around for something good to listen to for an hour or more, you always come in clutch!
Glad to hear it!
Love the dragon remakes so much. By far your BEST videos
Glorious urds!
Cooper dragons are basically the other side of a coin when it comes to black dragons. When a black dragon is exposed to negative energy it can become a shadow dragon. Is their something special that can happen to a Cooper dragon if exposed to positive energy. And if not why not.
Any dragon can become a shadow dragon through such exposure. But you have a point. Why doesn't positive energy have a similar effect? Dragons certainly tend to adapt to the dominant elemental energy. How does this effect them? Is it a...positive change?
It gets very healthy.
This Great Game sounds interresting!
Can all dragons take part in Xorvintaal, or is it a copper thing? Im wondering if some chromatics are in on it. Sounds like a fun plothook. Like a green dragon being really annoyed at a party, but not doing anything because the rules say no.
All dragons can. I personally as a DM rule that half-dragons are eligible. If only to give PC's that sense of they thought it was a game... And then some very irate older dragons disabuse them of that notion.
Thank you new dragon videos!
Ah one of my favourite dragons next to silver.
My favorite of the metally bois! Did you read my mind?
only at 4.20
Ah, the "Great Game." I was trying to find which video talked about it. I plan to use this in my upcoming campaign. Thank you!
Edit, I recently came up with a great way to foreshadow Xorvintaal in my campaign I just started. It is listed below. *Work in progress build*
The game Xorvinball. The idea is getting the Ball to the liar of your team, much like how dragons compete for treasure. The teams take turns doing this for a time, or first to 5 points. Each team has a goal shaped like a dragons head.
Rules are simple. No killing. Spells of first level and lower are cool as long as they don't deal damage. Don't go out of bounds. Get the ball to the goal.
One team plays offense while the other plays defense. The order of who plays what is determined by a coin toss, or something simple, with the winner choosing which side they want. Each game is five rounds. The player count is five to ten.
Offense goes first in initiative. First, each team chooses their formation after devising a battle plan. Then the game starts! Each team can decide who goes first by planning, or initiative roll. Defending team can use reactions to try and stop the offensive team. Anything that uses an action can be used as a reaction in this game, including movement and spells. If the defensive team can intercept the ball, they switch to offense.
So are you saying that Xorvintaal has some long forgotten rule that all players must do X when under the King-Killer Star? But because they forgot the rule, all the players go insane when the comet appears and that is what really causes the Drocorages?
The dracorages were cause by the dracorages mythal iirc. Though that's a fantastic idea for working it into a campaign where the mythal doesn't exist
I am in absolutely no way saying anything remotely like that. If you want to include that in your game, by all means, I don't tell people how to play their games.
Hey Aj, great video. So I believe in your last video on the Brass Dragon you briefly mentioned the Harpers. I was wondering if you would be willing to make a video on them, there origins and goals as they seem an intentionally ambiguous organisation that often seem to be more meddlesome than helpful.
Sure, this is actually the first request I have had to talk about them, I think.
As always, an extremely good video, A.J.!! I do thing it's a shame that Tolkien's world and D&D parted ways back in the '70s. Copper Dragons should have a natural affinity for Hobbits & Gnomes. Pip seems like a character who could get along well with a Copper Dragon, in a sort of haphazard, irreverent way and Copper Dragons could be welcome (if warily so) guests in the Shire (especially since all the Dragons that are native to Arda are inherently evil). It would be nice for the two traditions to merge once more on friendly (and Elves once more being tall and immortal) terms. I would like to travel from Toril to Middle-earth or the Undying Lands through a portal via the Ether.
Do copper dragons have any connection to satyrs, it seems they would get along
They do get along well and have such a rich history of interconnections and friendships that many share an almost extended family feeling toward each other. Its quite likely that the dragon will give the Satyr the benefit of the doubt, and vice versa, in many situations.
@@AJPickett Thank you
Coppers my fav! Funny and greedy. Btw!
Brass= Tin + Copper, Bronze= Zinc + Copper... Imangine zinc and tin dragon.. could you imagine WotC officialy make such new dragons?? Now thats the joke!😂 Expanding each of the chromatic, gem and metallic dragon families from 5 to say 10 true dragons? THAT would be the day! I would get shocked
I know I’m a complete nerd but you got that backwards. Bronze is Tin + copper. And brass is zinc + copper. Also German silver is brass with nickel in it.
your effort was well worth it! your video quality is excellent! keep it up!
I second this.
Which dragons are more likely to tell you secrets, and riddles through code or puzzle?
Copper dragons.
I get the feeling with some of these dragons that there aren't supposed to be many of them. It sounds like the lore paints them to have only one very specific personality...
And damn with Kobolds like that I think it's crazy AJ's players aren't all murder hobos.
Just like the stat blocks, the monster manuals tend to present a "stock standard" version of each creature. Also, I am very good at playing convincing traitor kobolds.
@@AJPickett lmao I hope your players don't watch your videos or they may start calling you on your bluffs 🤣
Players who have lost trust in your NPCs will naturally devolve into murder hobos! It's the only logical conclusion to social detachment!
I want to hang out with these Dragons if I can make a good joke. I'm not very good at jokes.
Copper Dragons would play and joke with you, giving pointers, if you want to get good at jokes, and teach you to do that. They'd even gleefully watch to see how well you learned to do it.
In some other universe or a planet fit for evolving such magnificent and deadly beasts, sure! Until them, imagination and source material is the step-in solution! Heck I imagined in my day dreams green and yellow dragons living in barely visible caves openings in a nearby mountain where I grew up. And my fantasy addiction started with Might&Magic and HoMM 3, not D&D. The elves of AvLee had such dragons as companions! 😊
Don't know anything at all about somewhat conventional dnd. I've only seen stuff like dimension 20. Which is a really fun thing, but its missing things like this. I went down a rabbit hole of these dragons and how interesting they are, and for some reason these fellows..they caught my attention, hearing about a creature like this was just very cool. Cause from what I understand of MOST creatures in dnd is they either dislike humans, or at the very least don't go out of their way to come into contact with them. But this guy goes out of his way to go to parties and likes jokes.
Yay!
So if Copper dragons encourage a giddy lightness to everything compared to the depressing weight Black dragons encourage, then what does a Shadow-Copper dragon bring?
I would think they'd encourage a Happy Medium. Neither looking to a bright future nor interested in wallowing in despondency. Truly an unimpressive specimen lacking ambition and drive. Still a dragon who will kill you if you take their stuff. Just. Lacking that vital joy that Coppers usually bring.
That image included in the video with all the chromatic and metallic dragons matched by their rank and their opposite match? Well, an easy way to handle a good or evil version of a dragon is to just flip the behaviour between the metallic and chromatid pair. You are right, a copper dragon that transforms eventually into a shadow dragon doesn't automatically become evil. Their humour would most likely get pretty sarcastic and dark, instead of "Hey, cheer up, its a joke!" it would become "Hey, who gives a shit, life is a joke!".
i love copper dragons
There is a GM Binder on the Fey Dragon. You should do one on that. it seems like an interesting option.
I like it since its Neutral Good, which doesn't seem to ever be an alignment.
Omg omg omg are we gonna get a Cult of the Dragon video?! 🤩
Does Silver dragon’s natural weapon harms werewolves ?
No, they do not, however, they can cast spells, which do harm Werecreatures.
So copper dragon are ease going care free mob boss that are smart than you know .
Informative & Entertaining
as always! 👏👏👏
also, a while back in your
(Excellent!) hour long
presentation about Red
Dragons, 15 minutes &
40 seconds in you spoke
about Ashardalon who
basically plunders a region
in the astral plane called
"The Bastion of Unborn
Souls", do you have any
information about this
location & is there enough
for an ecology about it? 😁
Not really, no. It would all be speculative.
@@AJPickett awww 😞
oh well, maybe there's some
secrets so profound that
A O feels they are best
kept hidden from the
multiverse - lest they
turn the brains of even
the gods into a soggy
gibbering ooze!!! 😯
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so the theme of most metallic dragon as a adventure party is bronze as a paladin, copper as a bard or thieve, gold as a wizard or sorcerer, silver as what they as bard, fighter, monk anyclass
And what of brass?
18:23 I feel like this could be easily accomplished without necessarily outright declaring the effect by randomly donning a large red clown nose and occasionally honking it after finishing sentences.
This is even more likely to work if all the traps in dragon's lair are designed to humiliate rather than physical harm.
You think that copper dragons would enjoy joining a adventurer party in secret for the lols
Thanks as always for the lession master sage! Though I have my biases towards Dragons I admit that Copper Dragons have earned my respect and favor, for whatever that is worth, my patron loves a good joke. Xorvintal is awesome! Anything psionic I am interested in. For totally good reasons i assure you *cough* *cough*
You started the new year off hard and fast! Keep the videos coming!
Humans as old as dragons aaahhh very funny 🤣 🤣
I love these more magnanimous beasts
My players will find a petrified adult copper dragon in an ancient red dragon's hoard. Carved deeply into it's stony flesh, “What has a mouth but doesn’t speak? Has wings but can’t fly? Legs but can’t walk? And eyes but can’t see its folly?”
Now I think it might steal some of the hoard from the players. Lighten their load so to speak. If they cure it.
I think this is the first video I've seen discussing kobolds working with metallic dragons. Is that perhaps a 5e thing? I was under the impression the good dragons didn't want anything to do with the kobolds.
But that doesn't mean the Kobolds agree. More often than not the Kobolds are annoying worshipers to Metallics. More like roadies than toadies.
Think the problem is the likelihood they already serve a chromatic. No dragon would want untrustworthy creatures near their lair and metallic tend to be good and therefore less willing to make an example of the diminutive yip yappers.
Kobolds serve all dragons.
@@AJPickett I tend to have kobolds in my setting have a gradual change in scale color to that of the type of dragon they serve over generations. So, the older generations may still have hints and speckles of the color of the dragon their clan served before this one...assuming the transition was recent enough for that to still be evident. Some serve no dragons at all, living and grudgingly getting along with the other races of my setting. Though, they steadfastly believe they will one day serve again. Oh, and some of them believe their species once were dragons and must have been cursed into their current form long ago. Thus, some members of those clans embark on great quests to find a way to return their people to their rightful place in the skies. Maybe it's true... Who knows? Makes for a fun background choice for a player who wants to play as a kobold, though.
Too bad Silas the thieves guild in the live action DnD movie wasn't a copper. Lol...
excellent interpretation
my guess is fizban dose not care for the game, thus left it out, that's my head canon
So the great game is calvinball
little bit