Exploring Dungeons and Dragons: Drow
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Let’s think...
A culture of exiles, spiders are everywhere, everything there wants to kill you, literally live in the land down under...
Oh my god, Drow are just fantasy Australians
W h6 I ĺ
...omg. o.O
🤣
So many people misplay the drow and go stupid evil with them. They forget important things, like how drow are political, charming and manipulative, or how drow all talk with Australian accents.
The land down under
Damn i should Listen to the drizzt Audiobooks😅
@maidenceri4309 i plan do do it one day,
@@DavidLopez-en6elthe land drow under.
Drow are my favorite . When I do an evil one I don't go full evil. I play them like this . Evil just in the sense that there hardly anything I wont do or anyone I wont betray/deceive to get what I want or for profit/power but still keeping some morals. For example cruel but not completely heartless. I may have little to no empathy for people but like animals. I might decide to remain loyal to my companions if they have earned that loyalty but it takes ALOT because even other drow often backstab eachother. I might be convinced to save someone in distress ...for a price. The "right thing" isn't always good or evil but whatever makes me the most money or meets my ends and every chance I get I will be trying to decieve and manipulate literally everyone .not evil for the sake of doing evil but doing evil things to survive/ gain an upperhand
Because that's how drow are raise. Every now and then ill play a drow who fled the under dark rejects lloth and lives a life of good (pulling a drizzt)
And in every temple to the elven pantheon, there is an empty alcove: in remembrance that the dark brothers and sisters are welcome back if they throw off the shackles of Lolth.
You say that but they not to acceptable to vhaerun either
but they arent allowed on evermeet no matter what.
My Eilistraeen Cleric be like: and what have the Seldarine done to welcome us back?
Nope wrong
So, can Drizzit go?
When I was 16, my father had just retired from the military. We had moved into a house we were renting. Occasionally, my father gave me the task of mowing the lawn and edging the lawn. I hated doing this because, up until now, we had always lived in military housing. I wasn't used to this at all.
So I start to mow the lawn, and I realize at one point I am reaching the property line between our house and the neighbor's house. For me, it seemed reasonable to stop.
My father came out and saw that I had stopped, and began loudly chewing me out (he was a drill sergeant in the United States Army for three years, so... It wasn't great).
Grudgingly, I began to mow and edge the section of the neighbor's lawn that was adjacent to ours. It wasn't much (imagine the width of lawn when your driveway is on the side of your home that is closest to your neighbor's driveway. It was probably about 6 to 7 feet when facing the homes in terms of width).
I grudgingly did it.
As I was finishing, I got a little bit of a surprise. The neighbor, a very old and elderly woman, came out of her home.
I am assuming she saw/heard the one-sided argument between sixteen-year-old me and my father, but she walked right up to me and profusely thanked me for mowing and edging this rather tiny portion of her lawn.
She then handed me about $10 in cash. I tried to politely refuse, but she wouldn't accept "no" for an answer, so I graciously accepted it and thanked her.
I mentioned this story, because later on I went into Waldenbooks and asked them if there was a book they would recommend in the fantasy genre. The store rep had told me she had a fantasy novel in mind, and took me over to the appropriate section of the store.
The book she told me I should read was "Homeland" by R. A. Salvatore, the story that detailed the beginning of the life of the drow elf Drizzt.
The way it detailed the society and how it functioned, the way it described the near impenetrable blackness that was the Underdark. I was so hooked. I would stay up until 1 and 2 a.m. reading these books while still in high school, knowing full well that my parents wanted me to get up early to walk my sister to volleyball practice. For the longest time I was hooked.
I thanked the lady for the money she gave me, but I never thanked her for what that money led me to discover.
Thank you. So very much.
P.S.: I am a bit drunk now, so if there are typographical errors... 😋
That was a nice story, thank you for sharing it.
@@Martdogg3000 I 2nd that
@@majik5194 Same here
what?
wait you're drunk? huh doesn't show with all that perfect grammar and spelling.
If y’all thought drow were unsettling for worshipping a “Spider Queen”, wait till he covers Driders.
That's it I'm getting a flamethrower.
I've watched too much Monster Musume for Driders to be scary
OwO
I completely forgot about driders in fantasy although they don't seem as bad as real ones.
Driders?
Lets face it: we should all be asleep. Perfect timing for a video on Drow.
I don't know what to say, might be bad for you but it's perfect for me, since it's 9 am where I am now and I really need this kinds of videos to start my morning
2 am gang over here
8:30 am, I just woke up.
09:45 gang represent
Yep 🙈
I wanna see a campaign where this guy is the DM. His voice is perfect for it.
His voice seems perfect for narration, but I don't know how well he can voice act NPCs.
If he's capable of on the spot narration of events is a different matter. I've had so many DM's that are great at reading out the core story, then fall into Uhhh and Ummm and 'Likes'..... the second they have to speak spontaneously
“Who wakes up at 3AM to eat a krabby patty?”
OH BOY 3AM!
What hooked me to Drizzt is how foreign their society is and how much Drizzt and his father don't fit in that society.
I can't explain it but it's like watching a candle refusing to be snuffed by gale force winds. That gave me hope.
I have it on my list on audible 😊
I appreciate how you differentiate between the different editions and don't try to present it as one complete lore.
Drow: "Aha! Surface dweller! You have been outmatched!"
Artificer: *Literally just turns on his UV flashlight*
Definitely got some Blade vibes from that even though they're drow and not vamps:)
I like elves in general but I love the drow so much
Same. They’re the best.
I would love a tv series just based on the Baenre family.
Full (Baenre) House.
Never happen nowadays. Don't you know the drow are just misunderstood, their the real victims here.😂😂😂
@@skoobsdaer51773 can´t blame patriarchy for all thats wrong in Menzoberranzan 🥸
I know you are 99% SCP focused. However, listening to this makes me wish you would do a Warhammer Fantasy or Elder Scrolls run. They way you breakdown larger amounts of info and pull out the most essential aspects, and quite frankly how well you just read it is very well done.
He actually did quite a few videos on Elder Scrolls already. Though I'd love to see him make more of them.
For the little comic I'm making for myself, I slightly changed the drow to make them more complex than slavers and sexist:
They're absolutely collectivist in society, but each Domain determines the kind of society in that realm. Lolth's Domain is more politically inclined and use sly methods to gain power, Vaerhaun's Domain is more based in slave trade and bloodshed. The best slaves come from His kingdom, while the best politicians come from Her's. Men and women have the same CR rating in Vaerhaun's Domain due to his belief in equality, but Lolth has the most powerful female clerics and the weakest men.
The Drow under Lolth actually fear and love her, seeing her as a stern mother figure that punishes bad children. She gifts her people with a blessing of enormous power if they show her genuine prowess in something. Others are eaten if they are non satisfactory to her. The more she favors you, the more spiderlike you become, with "High Clerics" having four arms, and the males she likes becoming driders.
(Also she low-key is an alcoholic and is going through a custody battle with Corellon but that's besides the point).
Hair: albino
Skin: *M A X I M U M M E L A N I N*
I like to imagine drow houses as akin to mafias.
This is released early morning so that everyone is drow-sy.
Ba-dum-Tss
that's it, into the slave pit with you
Ouch!
Do a video on Drizzt and the impact he’s had on D&D
I knew Drow were considered harsh and generally evil, but I didn't know they were this bad. Main shock was that they sometimes eat humans. Oof!
Dont knock it till you try it
Dark eldar: What are you, a casual? Here, hold my slave... whatever is left of it, anyway.
"This is a small pile of red goop sir."
"Oh good a live one."
Drow = Dark eldar minus the bdsm and heroin addiction... LAAAAAME
You mean the Dark Eldar are Drow plus heroin and BDSM, right?
Considering the Drow were going for 10 years before Warhammer 40k was even published... :)
Drow = vanilla dark eldar
The drow are dark eldar but not stupid. The drow, while cruel, recognize that they need their slaves. That destroying a slave before its usefulness is spent is something to punish. The dark eldar waste their slaves as a form of sport. Only reason they haven't gone extinct is because they have Mary Sue levels of abilities and technology. The only good the dark eldar do is point out that it isn't just humans who can be likened to the hindmost part of an unclean quadraped.
Drow: We're edgy and hardcore.
Shadar-kai: Hold my barbed-wire whip.
Drow are truly my favorite race in Forgotten Realms. In Adventures League I play a Drow Necromancer and a Drow Assassin Gloomstalker both from Menzoberranzan. The Assassin Gloomstalker stay’s now in Waterdeep doing dark dealings for noble for the right price at night🌙...the Necromancer still has a stay in Menzoberranzan in House Xorlarrin. He also, works on the surface with Lords Alliance in a uneasy arrangement thanks to his cousin Matron Mother Zeerith in a side dealing when she ruled over Q’Xorlarrin....thanks for doing this great video🕷🕸💀
I loved the Ryld and Pharuan Scooby gang in War of the Spider Queen. Always thought that was a great cast of characters.
Dude awesome. I love those books. 3rd time reading the series. Ryld was my favorite.
7:36 so like, the exact way men are seen in a patriarchal society.
I like the Drow mostly just cause dark elves in general are my favorite kind of elves, but my Drow character is the antithesis of Drow culture
My character Stoobo is a weak tourist character that uses web magic. He respects his religion, but he'd be a comedic relief if in a animated film. The stats I was given I gladly took because I was fine being a moronic character, ugly with buckteeth. :P
How is your character the antithesis? Antithesis sets a high bar, my dude, but it could be a cool... monk? Seems the most counter to Drow society in terms of class.
@@probablythedm1669 he is a monk/sorcerer
@@probablythedm1669 hes the antithesis in the sense of hating slavery, spiders, and Lolth, and he has a good relationship with Corellon.
Wow, how original...
How to be successful in Drow society: Be edgy.
And be female while also being a sadist. Also hi dude nice comment
Let the edge flow through you!
So basically be a "Dark Elf" like in warhammer and Wow maybe
It's essentially an elaborate BDSM fantasy.
Poison darts help too.
The drow as they are presented here are tragic, in a way; an entire people, a culture, held hostage to the whims of an evil god.
My chaotic good drow rogue seems majorly contrarily. He basically became the babysitter of the party, trying to get our party on track and sober
12:42
And such begins the story of
Sandwich Stoutaxe
Loving these D&D vids. You're great Mangg.
I was just rewatching your video on the Davites in the SCP universe, and something occurred to me: Why are matriarchies so often presented as sinister?
What are we, as men, so afraid of, that we have to assume that if the shoe were on the other foot, there would be blood sacrifices and spider-goddesses?
No it's the part of many men's secret submissive bdsm fantasies. No joke
would say partly its base on real nature aka those spider which literally eat the male after intercourse...
My understanding is the blood sacrifices, matriarchy and worshipping of weird gods harkens to the more backward, savage times of mankind. Dark elves in warhammer fantasy is like drow but are not matriarchal. Modern fantasies usually draw inspirations from existing social structures, not really a latent dominance anxiety
As far as i can tell most evil factions in fiction are of a patriarchal structure. To provide some examples: In the lotr there are no evil women, there is literally only male orcs and other baddies. In Got yes there are several evil women in the later seasons, but earlier season are dominated by male villians as well, Tywin, Ramsay, Lord Fray...
Matriarchies are used to spicen things with their rarity, to give character to a faction.
Got nothing to do with the writers associating females with evil, goddamnit, how could anyone even get such an idea?
Jesse Berg
Cause one of the most “successful” female leaders was also one of the most War happy leaders.... ever heard of the queen of England? (the older ones not the contemporary ones) they were the ones who started quite a few bloody battles and wars, that’s not to say that kings are innocent in comparison however there is a significant and notable violent streak when it came to the queens of England during the British empire’s golden age
It's always funny to imagine just how utterly inefficient drow society is, and how quickly it would collapse without divine intervention. Such an incredibly violent and chaotic society would need a huge portion of their population and time devoted solely to either killing others, or preventing themselves from being killed. This would have the effect of making conflicts even more costly, since so much time and resources would be invested into preparing for conflict and committing it.
You could claim that this issue could be resolved with slave labor, but there's an issue there when you don't have automation. The best example I could think of would be the ancient Spartan society. Basically, the whole reason Spartans became renowned for martial skill was out of necessity, and a hilarious spiral of the threat of slave revolts. You see, so much of Spartan society was devoted to warfare, that they didn't have enough people to do things like grow food to feed everyone. Thus, they bought or captured slaves (called Helots) to do all of this labor. But now they needed an even stronger army to keep the slaves from rising up. But now, since they had a bigger army, they had even less people to do things like farming, meaning they needed more slaves. More slaves means you need a bigger army, a bigger army means you need more slaves. Round and round it went, until the city of Sparta became a horrifically dystopian society designed almost entirely around producing capable soldiers, just to terrorize the Helots to keep them from revolting.
Huzzah! That's my favorite book out of all of them. My favorite version of them and Erelhei-Cinlu is the perfect playground for quick jaunts into chaos for any number of quests. Components, magic, poisons, knowledge, adventures.
Great mid-level starting point, every character is in the crane basket , heading down each of them holding a piece of paper offering them a task collectively. Whether they know each other or not. I use this when I start new groups of players off, giving them options of storylines.
Anywho,, Thank you thank you. Stay Safe
I think I just figured out why Maxwell Atoms made a Grim adventures of Billy and Mandy movie about evil spiders conquering the world and the Dark Elves serving the spider Queen. He must’ve based that on the Drow!
*0:01*
What he said: Drow
What I heard: *B R U H*
0:14
"Dank tunnels"
Superb description. It sounds like they can be easily manipulated into turning against one another. Or manipulated into doing one's bidding if one can convince them they will gain power or wealth. Scheming and paranoia can be a terrible weakness. Great artwork and presentation.
Just be careful that you aren't the one being manipulated, because all drow (even the lowest of the low) are wily little buggers who play the long game ruthlessly and for keeps.
Also if you plan on "convincing" one. Make sure what you give them is worth more than the prestige they would get if they simply just came back with your head. On that note don't trust your back to one even after convincing him/her because they tend to be a little backstabby and will happily kill you after taking whatever you used to convince them. In other words they won't honor agreements unless you are lolth herself, and hope you don't get found our if you are pretending to be her or her emissary.
@@raistlarn I know you're right. But evil can be predictable. If you can figure out what they really want.....and make them THINK they know what YOU really want, well.....But it sounds like it's probably better to avoid Drow from The UnderDark in any case. Great comment.
@@raistlarn They sound like true scum in that case. No wonder they are shunned.
That sword look so like a skyrim custom made sword.
Been waiting for this one! Currently playing a drow druid, and since then have loved the drow race!
Aww, "a community of schemers and backstabbers", how cute. Skaven is amused.
Perfect timing, I'm about to make a drow PC and needed some catching up on their lore.
Funny you post this: my party just saved a Drow from death from a decision on the fly by the DM, and he agreed to forsake his gods and people for freedom. If he follows us...
My first character was a Drow rogue named Igor Skyski. You can already tell how the group I’m in plays XD
Kai Laine ai does not play DD but she became a huge fan of the drow drizt d'urden from the forgotten realms novels^^
Rogue*
Murder hobos I assume?
Those campaigns are always boring.
GrindcoreNinja it’s never anything specific. Basically the DM just gives us overpowered gear and pits us against overpowered enemies. Essentially it’s always just a massive shitpost
@@kailaine3974 But do you guys actually Role Play at all?
That's like the best part of the game.
1:06 that dragon looks hella derpy.
i almost thought you were going to say "deep dark fantasies at 0:07 "...guess that says plenty about my self
in a campain I am playing with a few friends our warlock managed to convince a male drow to betray his master and join our party and eventually as the campain went on he abandoned evil and became an invaluable member
"drow metal is degraded by sunlight, sometimes to the point of disintegration"
already I can think of some uses for this. imagine, drow-metal photography!
you just make a flat metal plate (or even a metal tape, like a "film"), expose it to sunlight, and the more light hits the more metal crumbles, and voila, photography in the Forgotten Realms.
it could even be magical in that it only works with sunlight; not with artificial light, like a fire or maybe light based on non-solar magic sources (or whoever invents electric lighting here).
Not dissimilar from the Dark Elves of Elder Scrolls. Having essentially abandoned worship of the Divines, they instead worship a few of the Daedra. Who don’t necessarily instill the best of virtues.
Although, I don’t think anyone would classify Dark Elves as evil, at least not from the get go. Fun stuff to think about.
One of them being mephala who is literally the spider queen
Sotha Sil Right! I forgot about that!
@pokezee king-wolf also, what ever happened to shorties? Turns out the Dwarves in Elder Scrolls weren’t even really Dwarves. Just yellow elves. I’ll give the point to Warhammer and D&D on that one.
"You can't play a good aligned drow rouge, that's a Drizzt clone!"
"Ok, but I like to be nice and arrows are cool so fuck you"
Its interesting how the dark elf archetype in TES was occupied by the Falmer, insted of the Dunmer, the actual dark elves
Shit of forgot this channel was also called TES. To be clear, I am rerering to The Elder Scrolls series of video games.
To me, the most interesting part of Drizzt's life is the ten years of solitude in the underdark. As always, great video.
which book was this in? Because if I remember correctly he only alludes to it in his musings before every chapter. The first book started when he was already on the surface in Icewind Dale after he ran.
@@justincarlozmaxino1100 it's in 'Exile'. He basically goes feral.
What makes it so interesting to me is the loss of self. I wish it had been explored a bit more.
@@johnst.baptiste3664 Ah thanks man
Definitely.. especially how he essentially devolves into a feral state and pulls out of it
The Drow, the dankest of our brothers.
TES: "Drow eat mostly fungi..."
The fun guy: "AAAAARRRRRGGGHHH!"
what an amazing race!
Great houses, fear and worship of evil gods, constant infighting and deception, might makes right philosophy, hatred for every other race, moral relativism. Obviously I knew Bethesda took inspiration from DnD for their dark elves but damn it's uncanny.
Yep. Dunmer are basically nicer Drow. lol
5:10 Ayleid Structure perhaps? Thank you.
It just occurred to me that Romulans are space drow.
An emphasis on subterfuge & personal ambition, which is both terrifying to neighboring races and surprisingly functional within their own society; keeping to themselves unless to launch small raids on their neighbors; a deep hatred of the more elegant cousins they split from; adding self-destruct failsafes to all their technology; and of course, the pointy ears.
Awesome content as usual! I’m not very versed in D&D so this may be a tall order, but maybe you could do a video on entities in the lore?
The crystal shard.....yes!,,,,,
Man, your channel is so sick dude.
Drow are one of those races everyone loves to hate, they might be portrayed as evil and capricious but can rise up to be great heroes. Look at Drizz’t and, if anyone reading this has played Icewind Dale, also look at Malavon (only doing what he did in both games for his sister).
I know of them, so much smut....
Eilistraee be praised.
Hell yeah, may the Sword Dancers ever grow, and may Lolth's influence diminish.
It's 1:05 am here in LV, NV ( graveyard shift )
Start a gang of Drow call that Fifty Shades of Grey.
I do not understand how the Drow don't seem to have peasant revolts.
MrPotates
Lolth subtly influences all Drow to make sure that doesn’t happen
The Drow have a goddess that makes sure that doesn't happen. Peasants won't fuck with Lolth.
Was this setup so that there can be BDSM involved in D&D sessions?
D & D is a well known hobby for sexual deviants , everyone knows that
I mean, it's far from the only set up for that sort of thing, but it is definitely the most obvious.
hol up
So the Drow's society is basically a modern corporate workplace?
When i hear of these elfs all i can think of is: "lets have them fight the dark elves from warhammer fantasy lets see who faints first😅
😅😅😅😅😅 I will literally pay to see this happen but to be safe my money is on the dark elves of Warhammer fantasy
I'm surprised you didn't talk about Eilistraee, the good sword dancing god of the Drow.
Your voice perfectly fits like a scholar for the series you do.
We need more D&D videos!
Every good fantasy game,story, movie or whatnot has his own "dark elves"....and as usual for your videos I like the images you choose.
You should look into Starfinder next. It's like D&D but in the future and based off of Pathfinder.
Your videos are excellent. Well done. 😀
And he's back!
No they don't eat spider meat killing a spider is anathema and if done in front of a priestess of Lolth shall be punished by death or being turned into a drider.
The best option to escape Lolth and Drow Society is to run and somehow make their way to Skullport where the followers of Eilistraee are and join them or ask for help. Eilistraee being the only good Diety in the Dark Elven Pantheon. These guys specialize in hiding from Lolth and redeeming other Drow who feel the same way.
@Lamodrick Foster It's simpler for them to Keep their selfish nature and join followers of Vhaeraun yes for those drow who don't completely turn from drow society that is which i should have said good and not just non-evil.
Vhaeraun's cult will still exploit and outright kill those drow who discover them and don't join them just to secure their secret so its really best to avoid them and just go full Eilistraee
Menzoberranzan: City of Intrigue states that some drow may ceremonially eat a spider at the beginning of each meal as a way of giving thanks to Lolth
Interestingly, the Drow lore has seen a recent and significant update! There are now unfallen drow and they are less evil. This is rather good - because the lore about them being "cursed with dark skin" has some uncomfortable real-world parallels and comparisons. It also represents the way players actually depict drow - often with far more nuance and complexity.
It's actually not new, it was just never given much attention. The existance of non-evil drow has actually been a thing for a long time. Perhaps most notably, there is a good drow deity named Eilistraee who is all about saving the drow from Lolth's evil, and have them start a new life on the surface.
@@TheHornedKing Eilistraee is barely talked about. She would add so much to the drow if she was used more. WOTC must hate her or something.
they sound like real life politicians.
Knights of the Dinner Table had a great title of one issue: "Apocalypse Drow".
Drow are the coolest OG D&D race.
This is my favorite dnd race
I was wondering what the inspiration for the bionicle species Vortixx was, and now I know!
Thanks
Male Drow fencer is my
go-to character
How do you deal with the sunlight sensitivity?
amazing video
The picture at 4:10 is that a Dark Eldar city or is it just me?
Drow (Daro-kuku): 'golden (wise/all-knowing) - laughter'
so Drow society is basically slightly more brutal high school?
You neglected to mention their first appearance, which was in the module G3 Hall of the Fire Giant King, in 1977. There was extensive information on them in the following year's module D3 Vault of the Drow.
This is my favourite race to play or now in 5th ed is tiefling as well, have you considered the war of the spider queen series
This was lit
Exploring SCP-420-J when?
That profile pic is extremely cursed
I always forget how smol drow are
Yay got to give like 100! Usually im too late to do that!
Nice.
Vergil from Devil May Cry would fit right in with the Drow.
With the critical role book the explorers guide to wildmount coming out soon I think the perception of drow as an always evil race may shift, whether you love of hate critical role I'm excited to see how the community responds to the new world to explore
Drow the chicken and watermelon race of D&D
It's 4:30am, and sleep is for the weak.
As much as I enjoy the SCP videos, I really miss when you post vids on other series you've started on.