End mill breaking at 20,000 FPS

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  • Опубліковано 17 січ 2023
  • What does it look like when an endmill starts chattering? How about at 20,000 frames-per-second? I'm in the shop playing with a high speed camera, filming Online Carbide 1/4" 4FL variable helix end mill on mild steel with my AvidCNC Benchtop Pro.
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  • @krzysztof6123
    @krzysztof6123 Рік тому +267

    now break a tap

    • @NithinJune
      @NithinJune Рік тому +11

      evil

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 Рік тому

      Wow sir, and here I thought terrorists were bad people..

    • @saldol9862
      @saldol9862 7 місяців тому

      Or an ez out

    • @WOLFTRAXRC
      @WOLFTRAXRC 3 місяці тому

      Oh shit nooooooo.. that's the worst💥💥💥

  • @Nickgowans
    @Nickgowans Рік тому +84

    That's not just chatter, that's like the whole world is shaking.

  • @jonah4196
    @jonah4196 5 місяців тому +33

    "It works pretty well with my machine" Immediate cut to the end mill disintegrating

    • @iamaduckquack
      @iamaduckquack 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, we all saw the video.

  • @MegaBalea123
    @MegaBalea123 Рік тому +155

    As a machinist i found this full length video really interesting in seeing the "feel"/whats happening in reality 😄 i love your channel dude, i have just been working through all your vids!

    • @aculasabacca
      @aculasabacca Рік тому +1

      I know you are not a Machinist because I am a machinist.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 Рік тому

      What's really interesting is how the machine shifts the position of the bit so extremely rapidly instead of at a slow even pace..
      It literally jerks it from side to side, I never knew they did that

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 Рік тому +1

      @@aculasabacca I know you're both lying because I'm a machininist and that's what all real "machinists" call themselves, machininists. We specialize in machinanigans.

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 Рік тому +3

      Real machininists are also very into SadoMachininism.

    • @aculasabacca
      @aculasabacca 9 місяців тому

      @@jonslg240 That jerking is from backlash. He is milling in the wrong direction. It's like feeding a table saw from the wrong direction. The blade will yank the workpiece out of your hand and shoot it across the room. A similar situation here.

  • @MrOracK6183
    @MrOracK6183 Рік тому +21

    Wow man great slow-mo shots, after the tip gave out it just crumbles under the weight !!!!

  • @freescape08
    @freescape08 Рік тому +15

    Can you work with slomoguys on a collaboration to see the crack propagation? I think that would be really cool, plus you could get some nice eye candy from clean machining at a higher data rate than this.

  • @user-zi8jn1go8k
    @user-zi8jn1go8k Рік тому +9

    we need a breaking tap in slow motion

  • @marshallwilliams4054
    @marshallwilliams4054 4 місяці тому +1

    Even in hardened tool steel, the amount of deflection is really remarkable

  • @NMCBKIAWIA
    @NMCBKIAWIA 4 місяці тому +1

    Your end mill has left the chat.

  • @ninjapwnsatlyfe
    @ninjapwnsatlyfe 5 місяців тому +2

    I know it was just for a short but never seen someone so sloppily put in parallels before.

  • @lgzz4885
    @lgzz4885 Рік тому +6

    Interesting! So is there any way to figure out why it chatters on that & fix that going forward?

    • @aculasabacca
      @aculasabacca 9 місяців тому +2

      He needs to cut going the other direction. What he is doing is "climb milling". It can be done but only with a machine that has no backlash.

    • @user-og9sr1iy6x
      @user-og9sr1iy6x 6 місяців тому

      That’s not climb milling.

  • @ceezb5629
    @ceezb5629 Місяць тому +1

    All terrain tires have softer rubber which wear out faster when normal driving ie roads, highways, etc.
    So if you want all terrain tires for the looks, know it will kill your gas economy and you’ll replace them earlier.

  • @ezekielmadia8908
    @ezekielmadia8908 Рік тому +9

    Man that's cool!

    • @vuyox
      @vuyox Рік тому

      So cool

    • @davidtidwell5397
      @davidtidwell5397 6 місяців тому

      Yeah. Until one breaks off and hits you in the face. 😂😂 Luckily i got minor cuts. But yeah it is preety cool to watch.

    • @ahhahesu4025
      @ahhahesu4025 28 днів тому

      @@davidtidwell5397seems like you need to work on your shop safety

  • @WOLFTRAXRC
    @WOLFTRAXRC 3 місяці тому +1

    Tools ain't cheap💥💥💥

  • @ogi22
    @ogi22 Рік тому +2

    TOT made recently a nice video about excentric collars... Slo-mo looks beautiful and you can see exactly the problem here. Nice work!

    • @felixar90
      @felixar90 Рік тому +5

      That’s way too extreme to be the collar. That’s like a 1/32 runout on a 1/4 endmill.
      I think the whole head or table is shaking itself to bits.

  • @rosenberg1144
    @rosenberg1144 6 місяців тому

    I don't know what size machine you're running, but i find it impressive how much force it can withstand. It looked like it rocked the entire machine

  • @Hdhjrkkshh565mj6en
    @Hdhjrkkshh565mj6en 10 місяців тому +2

    Run out is like 0.02 bro, change your tool holder

  • @tyshiddejuremanbey1313
    @tyshiddejuremanbey1313 Рік тому +1

    That went well!!!

  • @flutesandyou
    @flutesandyou 11 місяців тому +1

    too little views for such a cool vid, I mean it seem that u spend lotta time on it

  • @barrybrevik9178
    @barrybrevik9178 8 місяців тому

    Is that a solid carbide end mill?

  • @Angelcynn_
    @Angelcynn_ 4 місяці тому

    Your ways or bearings are worn on that side of the machine. You could try having the gibs tightened up. But your probably gonna have to replace your ways and/or bearings.

  • @Outofcontexst
    @Outofcontexst 5 місяців тому

    Hes just cold

  • @GlassofMilk1034
    @GlassofMilk1034 6 місяців тому

    I thought you said 4 ft and I was going crazy

  • @weltraumprasidentsuperstar5871
    @weltraumprasidentsuperstar5871 4 місяці тому

    Tool is still good. Maybe reduce RPM by 100

  • @Sharkdog11b
    @Sharkdog11b 4 місяці тому

    That was epic… and I hate that word… but epic is the only word that will do.

  • @codystafford7592
    @codystafford7592 Рік тому +1

    Need a solid holder

  • @nateking6629
    @nateking6629 Рік тому

    woah sick

  • @1garryrippon
    @1garryrippon Рік тому

    OMG!
    FUCKING BRILLIANT

  • @KartSmarter
    @KartSmarter 6 місяців тому

    Looks like your collet has a lot of runout

  • @4422-
    @4422- 11 місяців тому

    Holy smokes

  • @bobbycheshire4033
    @bobbycheshire4033 Місяць тому

    Probably a little tormach or cheap benchtop machine
    Pushing beyond it's limits

  • @micadammurphy
    @micadammurphy 3 місяці тому

    I think it "worked" well before that maybe... but it "works" no more

  • @TheOpticalFreak
    @TheOpticalFreak 5 місяців тому

    then don't use carbide end mill's,
    but HSS Lower your RPM and use cooling fluid!! 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @kw2519
    @kw2519 4 місяці тому +1

    What the hell were your feeds and speed? Looks like you were spinning the hell out of that thing with a large side load

  • @ryanbeard1119
    @ryanbeard1119 8 місяців тому

    What are the rpms ? So at 20000 (surface feet per second?)
    So the rpms (if this is a quarter inch ,) are 18336000. BS.

  • @NatVirgo
    @NatVirgo 5 місяців тому

    I think I heard shatter wrong

  • @kkupsky6321
    @kkupsky6321 3 місяці тому

    Does what it says on the tin…

  • @justinbelshe
    @justinbelshe Рік тому

    Soooo... bearings?

  • @aSpyIntheHaus
    @aSpyIntheHaus Рік тому +1

    Collet isn't centre (true)
    Refer to This old Tony's recent video
    Looks like others have said the same thing

  • @realryder2626
    @realryder2626 7 місяців тому +1

    Runout sale on broken mill bits?😂

  • @Buciasda33
    @Buciasda33 Рік тому

    You have a Loose Screw... Literally!

  • @Alovatololo
    @Alovatololo 9 місяців тому

    Mild steel?

  • @ssaw88
    @ssaw88 5 місяців тому

    Check your ways.

  • @kylewarren69
    @kylewarren69 Рік тому

    No taps broke in this video, false advertising.

  • @Haaalo079
    @Haaalo079 Рік тому

    20k fps bruh XD why so fast

  • @thomasrussell4674
    @thomasrussell4674 5 місяців тому

    Wow

  • @derrekvanee4567
    @derrekvanee4567 Рік тому

    Breakinf taps becomes breaking dexhenf sizre end mills fot us mini and micro larhe mill people would love to see turning lwngth with end supoort like 3 feet long

  • @bobelkiniii1461
    @bobelkiniii1461 Рік тому

    Your feed rate is entirely too high

  • @valentinozangobbo
    @valentinozangobbo 7 місяців тому

    Change your collet

  • @mtraven23
    @mtraven23 Рік тому

    variable helix? So the angle of the helix changes throughout the cutter? What is that meant to do?

    • @BreakingTaps
      @BreakingTaps  Рік тому +3

      Depends a bit on the manufacturer, but typically each flute will have a slightly different helix angle. Variable helix endmills help cut down on chatter because the slighty different angles have different resonant frequencies, so they don't have a chance to start building up a big resonance because they interfere with each other. A consistent helix angle between all flutes has a chance to start reinforcing chatter as each flute strikes the work at the peak of chatter (like pushing someone on a swing)

    • @mtraven23
      @mtraven23 Рік тому +1

      @@BreakingTaps oooohhh, thats interesting & not at all what I thought. But that is pretty clever. good explanation too! thanks.

  • @SJNFAB
    @SJNFAB Рік тому

    EXCELLENT FINISH ON THAT PASS.. 👍 PERFECT FEEDRATE

  • @brandonsmith3060
    @brandonsmith3060 Рік тому

    Can’t trust those bits from harbor freight

    • @aculasabacca
      @aculasabacca Рік тому

      He's doing it wrong.

    • @Jose-el7rf
      @Jose-el7rf 10 місяців тому

      @@aculasabaccahow is he doing it wrong?

    • @aculasabacca
      @aculasabacca 9 місяців тому

      @@Jose-el7rf When a machine has backlash in the feedscrews and you attempt what is called "climb" milling, as soon as the tool get a good bite. The backlash allows the table to move a given amount all at once as the tool pulls on the workpiece. This lets the tool take too big of a bite. If you search the difference between "conventional and climb" milling you can see a diagram or a video.

  • @Trendyrapslut
    @Trendyrapslut Рік тому

    Can you make one showing you destroy the entire machine by crashing it?
    Thanks for your consideration in advance.

  • @TheMotosnake
    @TheMotosnake 5 днів тому

    Thats not the tool. Its the rigidity of you busted ass machine.

  • @icebluscorpion
    @icebluscorpion 8 місяців тому

    You know that your Spindel doesn't run true right?! It turns eccentric. No wonder it shatters 😂. Just stupid

  • @handlesarefeckinstupid
    @handlesarefeckinstupid Рік тому +2

    Arebyou climb milling on a conventional milling machine? The backnlash will smash your tools.

    • @Hunter-ko7lk
      @Hunter-ko7lk Рік тому +4

      Ah yes … machinist you are not. He is neither climb milling nor using a conventional mill. You can tell that he’s not climb milling by watching the video and you can tell it’s a CNC by listening to the video.

    • @Paul-qu4kl
      @Paul-qu4kl Рік тому +1

      ​@@Hunter-ko7lk Looks like climb milling to me, what makes you think otherwise?

    • @Paul-qu4kl
      @Paul-qu4kl Рік тому

      ​@@psn64sat63 Haha, of course it's climb milling:
      # The width of the chip starts at maximum and decreases.
      # The cutting edge meets the workpiece at the top of the cut.
      # Chips are dropped behind the cutter

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Рік тому

      What do you mean by "conventional milling machine"? You can climb mill on any machine that has sufficient rigidity and minimal backlash.

    • @handlesarefeckinstupid
      @handlesarefeckinstupid Рік тому

      @@Hunter-ko7lk no, you aren't. Climb milling is when a cutter is trying to 'pull' the material into the cutter. Bad idea on anythimg with a leadscrew. If your manual miller uses a ballscrew, then all good, like some XYZ machines.