Dude, your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Awesome bow reviews. A lot of hands on information, not just regurgitating specs. I love these 30+ minute in depth reviews, don't ever change that. Nice work!
Thanks for the honest review. the 3D target shots are the best parts of these videos, it gives a good idea of how a bow will handle in the wild. keep up the good work.
A great review. Very honest and informative. Most other reviews have made this bow into the next greatest bow. Your honest review has helped with my decision.
Finally someone shooting realistic hunting arrows. 👏 still not much upgrade from the Xpedite which I currently shoot 510 grain arrows set at 80lbs, 29 DL putting out 315 fps.
the omen pro was the first bow I bought brand new. Then switched to the Axe 6 which is 1 if my all time favs. Shot good with the omen pro but in typical fashion for that type of bow struggled past 40yd.
Love this review!!! And your honesty about ibo lol ! Something I never really thought about when it comes to ibo with a super light arrow and how it maintains speed with a heavier arrow. A Bow can be more efficient with a lower ibo rating ! Mind blown 🤯! Awesome job keep it up !
@@BackyardBows no kidding lol. The bow I’m most intrigued with out of all the bows you shot so far is the Athens vista 31. Just looks so smooth and no humps. And very respectable speed. Can’t go wrong with awesome customers service either 😂
This is an old video, but reading through these comments, it’s about time I see a video host actually answer a bunch of questions and not just ignore them 👍
It's super interesting that this along with some of the other bows you've run, some rated real fast like this, when punched into an IBO calculator are running within a couple FPS of what an IBO calculator says they should with a 500gr arrow. But bows like the Spectra E that is rated ATA 330 fps pushed the 500 gr arrow at about 305fps. That equates to about 365fps IBO from the same calculator. Ive seen some other reviews where lower rated ATA speed bows pushed arrows faster than higher rated IBO bows.
Honest review, thanks. I've owned the original Omen, the Full Throttle, and the original Xpedite. Started shooting the original Evo 31 & 28 (non-speed bows) and realized how harsh the draw cycle and hand shock was on the speed bows. Since moving to the Mathews V3, I didn't realize a bow could be so smooth shooting. Shot the Levitate this year at a shop after a year of shooting the V3 and I was shocked (no pun intended) at how much hand shock that bow had. If I was given the Levitate, I would sell it on eBay and buy a V3x. With the limbs on the new Omen sweeping more forward, I can only imagine how much more hand shock there would be than the Levitate. All this for maybe 10'-15' more speed? Just not worth it to have your shoulder ripped off every-time you have to let down or those cams hitting the top of the blind or raking against tree limbs on a shot. Thanks for the review.
I was speaking about the new Omen from ignorance as I have not shot it and it would make sense that the Omen being heavier would have less hand shock than the Levitate as I think about it. But my guess would be the Omen has more hand-shock than say the new Evo XF? I assume you've shot the new Omen. Have you shot the Evo XF? How does that compare to the Omen?
The omen is my favorite pse bow from this year, little more hand shock than the evo xf and the levitate (levitate had less vibration than I expected being a carbon) but for a speed bow very nicely constructed
I would love to demo the omen and xf. Have you shot the Mathews V3 or V3X? When I made the switch from PSE to Mathews I had to retrain my brain since it felt so weird not feeling either the bow move in your hand or vibration. Also, since I hunt out of blinds and tree stands 33” bows can be more cumbersome.
@@RealRadNek first review we did was on the v3x, personally I think the v3-v3x is a step back in the right direction for Mathews. I shot Mathews for years, but for the past 5-6 years I really hadn’t liked what was being put out, until last year v3 got me back on board, I currently have the v3x 29 and love it
I wish there was somebody that compared this bow to others while using the s2 cams on shorter draw lengths. To me it seems like it would shine there because brace height is less critical with shorter draw lengths and the s2 cam was purpose built for short draws as opposed to like the prime inline not having a cam designed around short draw
I didn’t shoot all of them because we sell most after a review, but the three we still had I ran through new crono and they all varied 6-8 fps less with the g2 from Caldwell, so again any tested. In 2022 I think can be accurate comparison between bows since all were tested the same, everyone’s cronos varry slightly but I definitely trust this new one more Just reread your question I hope I’m answering it correctly
I know this isn’t a hamskea review but I was told by my tech that a 7” brace can be manipulated to a shorter brace with a hamskea by mounting the rest further back behind the shelf. Do you know anything about that? P.s I really like your channel man. Very easy to comprehend what your saying.
Without going back through your videos, can you tell me what has been your top performing bow (highest rated) and also what has been your favorite? (so far) Thanks Brother, Keep up the good hard work!
@@BackyardBows I'm talking about the pse Xpedite I have one and it is the fastest bow out there but the draw cycle is crazy a 70 feels like a 80 or more
I’d be curious to see how this bow does at lower draw weights compared to other bows. Is it significantly faster at 60lb than a comparable Hoyt, Mathews, Bowtech, etc. at the same draw length? I don’t know, but it’d be interesting to see.
The stability at full draw “tech” is not just the wider limb pockets it is also that at full draw the geometry of the limbs let the cams come towards the archer away from the riser thus making the brace height feel longer at full draw. PSE calls this the dynamic brace height (aka the brace height at full draw). I hope you understand what I’m saying. If I was to simplify it the limbs are not parallel lol that’s all it is it’s not “new technology”
But yeah it’s marketing wankiteering at the end of the day. I heard they do ibo and ata testing with a un fleched hollow shaft with no insert and nothing on the string no d loop no peep. They also might be adjusting the number of speed nocks and the amount of strands used in their strings. You can also get more speed out of a bow by not having serving around the cams and the cable slide/roller. I think it’s possible all of these tricks are being used in ibo tests for every bow manufacturer.
Wouldn't 355ibo at 29.5, 70#, 500grn effectively be 295fps? So it seems like the IBO works for the Omen while the other bows you mentiomed outperform their IBO. 🤔
I have mentioned this before high Ibos don’t always hold up with a heavier realistic arrow, and some bows have what I call strength to them, when the arrow weight is increased the speed stays at a higher fps, so high ibos don’t always come out on top once arrow grains is increased, so out perform the ibo calculator is correct
I still think the opposite, at my draw length maybe it’s different, the Mach one with the c2 I preferred over the levitate with the e2, wish I would have reviewed the evo xf with the s2
Nice to see a review that isn't bought and paid for. Thanks for the honesty.
Dude, your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Awesome bow reviews. A lot of hands on information, not just regurgitating specs. I love these 30+ minute in depth reviews, don't ever change that. Nice work!
I appreciate that! 🙏
Thanks for the honest review. the 3D target shots are the best parts of these videos, it gives a good idea of how a bow will handle in the wild. keep up the good work.
Appreciate the feedback
A great review. Very honest and informative. Most other reviews have made this bow into the next greatest bow. Your honest review has helped with my decision.
That’s what we want, here to help in your bow buying process, thanks for the feedback
Great review... Appreciate your reviews so much. I actually revisited this one and did not realize how much quality ranting I missed out on.
Still my favorite from pse
Great honest review, keep going, looking for another one :)
Very good review...very honest...the
Kicker was when you said :"Stick some Pigs" i have a 2012 Omen Pro and its going Wild Boar 🐗 hunting in Europe...
Finally someone shooting realistic hunting arrows. 👏 still not much upgrade from the Xpedite which I currently shoot 510 grain arrows set at 80lbs, 29 DL putting out 315 fps.
the omen pro was the first bow I bought brand new. Then switched to the Axe 6 which is 1 if my all time favs. Shot good with the omen pro but in typical fashion for that type of bow struggled past 40yd.
Love this review!!! And your honesty about ibo lol ! Something I never really thought about when it comes to ibo with a super light arrow and how it maintains speed with a heavier arrow. A Bow can be more efficient with a lower ibo rating ! Mind blown 🤯! Awesome job keep it up !
Has been one of my favorite things about each review, 500g arrow never lies
@@BackyardBows no kidding lol. The bow I’m most intrigued with out of all the bows you shot so far is the Athens vista 31. Just looks so smooth and no humps. And very respectable speed. Can’t go wrong with awesome customers service either 😂
Thanks for the review , keep em coming
Next three bows you will want to watch for
This is an old video, but reading through these comments, it’s about time I see a video host actually answer a bunch of questions and not just ignore them 👍
I try it’s getting harder but I try and read em all
It's super interesting that this along with some of the other bows you've run, some rated real fast like this, when punched into an IBO calculator are running within a couple FPS of what an IBO calculator says they should with a 500gr arrow.
But bows like the Spectra E that is rated ATA 330 fps pushed the 500 gr arrow at about 305fps. That equates to about 365fps IBO from the same calculator. Ive seen some other reviews where lower rated ATA speed bows pushed arrows faster than higher rated IBO bows.
Honest review, thanks. I've owned the original Omen, the Full Throttle, and the original Xpedite. Started shooting the original Evo 31 & 28 (non-speed bows) and realized how harsh the draw cycle and hand shock was on the speed bows. Since moving to the Mathews V3, I didn't realize a bow could be so smooth shooting. Shot the Levitate this year at a shop after a year of shooting the V3 and I was shocked (no pun intended) at how much hand shock that bow had. If I was given the Levitate, I would sell it on eBay and buy a V3x. With the limbs on the new Omen sweeping more forward, I can only imagine how much more hand shock there would be than the Levitate. All this for maybe 10'-15' more speed? Just not worth it to have your shoulder ripped off every-time you have to let down or those cams hitting the top of the blind or raking against tree limbs on a shot. Thanks for the review.
The Levitate has much more hand shock than the Omen.
I was speaking about the new Omen from ignorance as I have not shot it and it would make sense that the Omen being heavier would have less hand shock than the Levitate as I think about it. But my guess would be the Omen has more hand-shock than say the new Evo XF? I assume you've shot the new Omen. Have you shot the Evo XF? How does that compare to the Omen?
The omen is my favorite pse bow from this year, little more hand shock than the evo xf and the levitate (levitate had less vibration than I expected being a carbon) but for a speed bow very nicely constructed
I would love to demo the omen and xf. Have you shot the Mathews V3 or V3X? When I made the switch from PSE to Mathews I had to retrain my brain since it felt so weird not feeling either the bow move in your hand or vibration. Also, since I hunt out of blinds and tree stands 33” bows can be more cumbersome.
@@RealRadNek first review we did was on the v3x, personally I think the v3-v3x is a step back in the right direction for Mathews. I shot Mathews for years, but for the past 5-6 years I really hadn’t liked what was being put out, until last year v3 got me back on board, I currently have the v3x 29 and love it
I wish there was somebody that compared this bow to others while using the s2 cams on shorter draw lengths. To me it seems like it would shine there because brace height is less critical with shorter draw lengths and the s2 cam was purpose built for short draws as opposed to like the prime inline not having a cam designed around short draw
I have wanted the s2 on all three pse bows we reviewed this year
Have they just been a pain to get ahold of?
@@timcorwin6126 just don't reach my draw length of 30 inches
Did you ever test your theory on whether or not the other bows this year shot the 500 grain arrow anywhere near the 297fps at 70lbs?
I didn’t shoot all of them because we sell most after a review, but the three we still had I ran through new crono and they all varied 6-8 fps less with the g2 from Caldwell, so again any tested. In 2022 I think can be accurate comparison between bows since all were tested the same, everyone’s cronos varry slightly but I definitely trust this new one more
Just reread your question I hope I’m answering it correctly
I know this isn’t a hamskea review but I was told by my tech that a 7” brace can be manipulated to a shorter brace with a hamskea by mounting the rest further back behind the shelf. Do you know anything about that? P.s I really like your channel man. Very easy to comprehend what your saying.
Placement of your rest is not going to change your power stroke, your brace height cannot change, unless u change your cams
Without going back through your videos, can you tell me what has been your top performing bow (highest rated) and also what has been your favorite? (so far) Thanks Brother, Keep up the good hard work!
Highest rated bow to date is the encore by elite, my personal favorite is the Bowtech solution ss or the Hoyt rx7
@@BackyardBows I think I was fishing for confirmation. I saw your RX7 video the day. I bought one and am waiting on delivery. tY!
@@TheDjscottyrotten man I have mine hammering sept could not come any sooner
Will you test the Omnia soon?
Just ordered
do you think this was a tougher draw than the apa king cobra?
No but I also had that cobra set at 80lbs so I honestly couldn’t tell ya
How would you compare the DC between the omen and xpedite?
Still waiting on the expedite, but I can say the omen is still my fav pse to date
@@BackyardBows I'm talking about the pse Xpedite
I have one and it is the fastest bow out there but the draw cycle is crazy a 70 feels like a 80 or more
@@greekmaster1001 I read expedite and thought xlite lol, I would still take the omen, they have similar draw but the omen holds more solid I would say
I’d be curious to see how this bow does at lower draw weights compared to other bows. Is it significantly faster at 60lb than a comparable Hoyt, Mathews, Bowtech, etc. at the same draw length? I don’t know, but it’d be interesting to see.
I would also be interested in that, rep suggested it be shot at 80lbs Limbs, said it’s what it was designed for
The stability at full draw “tech” is not just the wider limb pockets it is also that at full draw the geometry of the limbs let the cams come towards the archer away from the riser thus making the brace height feel longer at full draw. PSE calls this the dynamic brace height (aka the brace height at full draw). I hope you understand what I’m saying. If I was to simplify it the limbs are not parallel lol that’s all it is it’s not “new technology”
But yeah it’s marketing wankiteering at the end of the day. I heard they do ibo and ata testing with a un fleched hollow shaft with no insert and nothing on the string no d loop no peep. They also might be adjusting the number of speed nocks and the amount of strands used in their strings. You can also get more speed out of a bow by not having serving around the cams and the cable slide/roller. I think it’s possible all of these tricks are being used in ibo tests for every bow manufacturer.
Good explanation wish the rep would have done the same
Wouldn't 355ibo at 29.5, 70#, 500grn effectively be 295fps? So it seems like the IBO works for the Omen while the other bows you mentiomed outperform their IBO. 🤔
I have mentioned this before high Ibos don’t always hold up with a heavier realistic arrow, and some bows have what I call strength to them, when the arrow weight is increased the speed stays at a higher fps, so high ibos don’t always come out on top once arrow grains is increased, so out perform the ibo calculator is correct
The omnia has a slower ibo but faster with a 500 grain arrow.
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@@BackyardBowsdidn’t you shoot the omnia at 30 inches of draw tho
@@Gibbs-Bijan-moon ya that might have been when we made the review switch of draw length from29.5 to 30
I think your confusing the E2 and S2 cams mate, the S2 is the more aggresive of the two, I Run the S2 on my xf.
I still think the opposite, at my draw length maybe it’s different, the Mach one with the c2 I preferred over the levitate with the e2, wish I would have reviewed the evo xf with the s2
😂love how you said got a 50 pound option if your a girl 😂
I appreciate the french… people sugar coat too much shit.
That’s the truth