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  • @LillyDevour
    @LillyDevour 12 років тому +493

    "Barbie is buried under the patio" that one nearly killed me :'D

    • @billharris1847
      @billharris1847 5 років тому +4

      It was an oldie but a goodie

    • @Tracymmo
      @Tracymmo 4 роки тому +4

      The close-up looked like a recreation of a person based on a skeleton when the police are trying to identify the victim

  • @kellygervais3440
    @kellygervais3440 4 роки тому +105

    Lmfao, Jennifer just has this shocked look on her face and says "wow"..

  • @dkw7973
    @dkw7973 9 років тому +432

    - Ken, by requests only
    -Go away Ken!
    -No! I am not going away. I'm coming closer
    I laughed so hard I nearly pissed myself!!

    • @mcfcguvnors
      @mcfcguvnors 5 років тому +3

      he looked like when they make a doll of someone but get it totally wrong :D

    • @Porkcfish
      @Porkcfish 4 роки тому +6

      I like that k.d. lang hit the punchline and Bill Bailey ran with it. I find watching comedians who think a non-pro nailed it interesting. An appreciation for good humour no matter where it came from. As they say, "Funny is funny."

  • @Renvaar1989
    @Renvaar1989 4 роки тому +174

    Jennifer Husdon looks like she stumbled into a UK talk show and is just lost at what's going on...

  • @WalterLiddy
    @WalterLiddy 9 років тому +486

    Top right Faith Tone has to be Stephen Fry in drag.

    • @kumppi
      @kumppi 9 років тому +21

      +WalterLiddy Yes and on the left we have the chubby Brendan Fraser. The middle one looks familiar also. Perhaps somebody can point out who he is.

    • @Mister_Jay_Tee
      @Mister_Jay_Tee 9 років тому +2

      +kumppi Looks like an innumerable version of a Disney Channel actor.

    • @kingelder2
      @kingelder2 7 років тому +11

      I was thinking Frank Skinner,Matt Lucas and Stephen Fry

    • @hemiolaguy
      @hemiolaguy 6 років тому +7

      You are so right! She looks just like the drag characters Stephen played in "A Bit of Fry and Laurie."

    • @danielcropp8553
      @danielcropp8553 5 років тому +3

      100%.

  • @derekjtaylor
    @derekjtaylor 13 років тому +39

    "I am your vessel!" Best line ever!

  • @liamwilliams1794
    @liamwilliams1794 5 років тому +67

    The last one looks like a group of dinner ladies from the 70’s

    • @vmm5163
      @vmm5163 5 років тому +5

      Omg you're right. They all had that hair !

    • @michaelgaynor6866
      @michaelgaynor6866 4 роки тому +4

      @@vmm5163 I now know why the guys were stealing Aqua-Net!

    • @alanspagnolia9474
      @alanspagnolia9474 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah; TOO MANY fuckin' dinners of the 70's !!

    • @cuda426hemi
      @cuda426hemi 4 роки тому

      Nope. That's early 60s hair. Beehive and Big Hair was 60s thing until hippies flat long hair. Then thanks to mousse and hair bands - big nasty stupid 80s hair happened - teased and moussed rat's nests - yuk. 🐒

    • @Tracymmo
      @Tracymmo 4 роки тому +4

      @@cuda426hemi 1964 release. But some women held on to those styles well into the 70s. I remember a teacher with a beehive in the mid-80s, but she was nuts.

  • @muftydog
    @muftydog 5 років тому +91

    My friend's mum had an album with a man crouching beside a tomb stone and it was called ''All My Friends Are Dead''. Its online somewhere.

    • @nicbarrax76
      @nicbarrax76 5 років тому +20

      Jon Smith I think there's a follow up album called "I Sold My Rifle Cause I'm Done Now".
      😂

    • @brandonmartin-moore5302
      @brandonmartin-moore5302 5 років тому +2

      @@nicbarrax76 I'm pretty I had to look this up for something else once

    • @pakey423
      @pakey423 5 років тому +8

      Jon Smith, you mean this one?
      www.discogs.com/Freddie-Gage-All-My-Friends-Are-Dead/release/4601728

    • @eily_b
      @eily_b 5 років тому +4

      @@nicbarrax76 😂😂😂

    • @andiemorgan961
      @andiemorgan961 4 роки тому +2

      @Aaron madazz Morgan It's an album of sermons!
      Press Petter Dekker's link to see the cover in its full glory!
      😵

  • @davidcarter5564
    @davidcarter5564 4 роки тому +9

    I have a copy of GERALDINE AND RICKY, "Trees Talk, Too!" autographed to me. I believe my paternal grandmother is the one who gave it to me.

  • @Taylorkaraoke
    @Taylorkaraoke 4 роки тому +108

    - "Jesus Use ME!!"
    Jesus: No, am good, thanks.

    • @Janeintheok
      @Janeintheok 4 роки тому +5

      I think Jesus would actually laugh at that 😄

  • @jaygee6738
    @jaygee6738 5 років тому +16

    holy crap Geraldine and Ricky are terrifying. That is some good old-fashioned nightmare fuel.

  • @controversiaster
    @controversiaster 13 років тому +72

    Bill Baily emphasising "USE MEEE!" was hilarious!!

  • @jeffcolorado
    @jeffcolorado 4 роки тому +6

    The woman on the right of the Faith Tones album looks like Stephen Fry in drag. 02:26

    • @withoutwords7404
      @withoutwords7404 3 роки тому +1

      I noticed that immediately. It has to be a joke album or something. They all three look like men with wigs on. The lighting doesn't quite seem right either. Not to mention the album is called "Jesus Use Me".

  • @buckbumble
    @buckbumble 5 років тому +15

    Jennifer Hudson has a look about her like nothing is going on upstairs.

  • @stephengarcia5915
    @stephengarcia5915 5 років тому +7

    I'm not into her style of music but in the 90's K.D. Lang's voice was one of the best.

  • @Sig2423
    @Sig2423 4 роки тому +4

    I can't believe that no one mentioned Ricky's hair. It was equally beautiful.

  • @trumsolon
    @trumsolon 12 років тому +44

    I AM YOUR VESSEL... lol everytime! xD

  • @jrasicmark1
    @jrasicmark1 4 роки тому +2

    Is no one going to ask what that blurb in the lower right corner means at 1:38? "Trees Talk Too!"

  • @iagreewithyoubub
    @iagreewithyoubub 5 років тому +8

    Geraldine and Ricky would be sure fire UA-cam stars in this day and age.

  • @TheSpacemannspiff
    @TheSpacemannspiff 5 років тому +7

    KD Lang and Bill Bailey are funny together

  • @Ellielovesbats
    @Ellielovesbats 13 років тому +34

    Oh my gosh, I haven't laughed so much in ages. I had tears rolling down my eyes. Brilliant. Thank Heaven for Graham Norton.

    • @edwardgradidge9612
      @edwardgradidge9612 4 роки тому +1

      Graham Norton, an overpaid, talentless prick and the guests aren’t much better

    • @pugmahone9439
      @pugmahone9439 3 роки тому +3

      You don’t get out much by the sounds of it 😂

    • @rebelraccoon9018
      @rebelraccoon9018 2 роки тому

      @@pugmahone9439 A bit harsh 🤭

  • @francaperotti5934
    @francaperotti5934 5 років тому +12

    KD lang just love her

  • @NiVi192
    @NiVi192 5 років тому +38

    *"Jesus use me!"*
    I'm dead!! 🙈

    • @mirror1675
      @mirror1675 3 роки тому

      That album cover is fake, though the song with that title is real.

  • @TonyGloUTube
    @TonyGloUTube 4 роки тому +8

    The "Jesus Use Me" album cover looks like three college dudes from the 50s in wigs.

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 3 роки тому

      The middle one looks like younger Justin Bieber and the right one with glasses looks like Buddy Holly with a bad wig.

  • @beatchapter
    @beatchapter 5 років тому +27

    The woman on the right of The Faith Tones looks like she might be Steven Fry's mum.

    • @markorollo.
      @markorollo. 5 років тому +1

      Just as I read that they did the close up of her,

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej 5 років тому

      You comment deserves more recognition, it had laughing so hard!

  • @mikaelabowen5781
    @mikaelabowen5781 5 років тому +12

    This had me in absolute stitches!
    But then (sort of inevitably) I went a-googling and ended up listening to Geraldine and Ricky (although not for long!). Oh heck, don't make the same mistake...

    • @tollyt7465
      @tollyt7465 5 років тому +3

      Too late.. My Cochlear have been irretrievably damaged!!

    • @youbringlightin
      @youbringlightin 5 років тому +2

      Thanks for the warning. Much appreciated! :)

    • @mikaelabowen5781
      @mikaelabowen5781 5 років тому +1

      @@youbringlightin Hehe, it seemed necessary!

    • @youbringlightin
      @youbringlightin 5 років тому +1

      @@mikaelabowen5781 Oh no - now I've got a strong urge to google it myself. I must hold strong and resist. :)

    • @mikaelabowen5781
      @mikaelabowen5781 5 років тому +1

      @@youbringlightin Resist! Stay strong! You have no idea just how much you'll regret going a-Googling on this one!

  • @andrewg3768
    @andrewg3768 6 років тому +8

    Ken is beside himself

    • @craigroaring
      @craigroaring 6 років тому

      That's because there are 2 pictures of him side by side.

  • @MartynStuff
    @MartynStuff 5 років тому +8

    0:55 Nice to see Keith Lemon had a recording career

  • @nicklewis1882
    @nicklewis1882 5 років тому +13

    2:25 The Faith Tones: hey, rock and roll!

  • @taracarroll4218
    @taracarroll4218 5 років тому +8

    Jennifer looked like she didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

    • @pensiveowl7791
      @pensiveowl7791 4 роки тому +3

      I think she found it in poor taste to be making fun of these people.

    • @baldrbraa
      @baldrbraa 4 роки тому +3

      The only classy person among them

  • @Lightraymuse
    @Lightraymuse 4 роки тому +3

    Funny thing is, that some of these LP's can fetch good money by collectors of strange and bizarre LP covers.

  • @natalieschannel7675
    @natalieschannel7675 3 роки тому +2

    Most of these covers look straight out of the 70’s

  • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
    @pillettadoinswartsh4974 4 роки тому +2

    2:46 - The one with the glasses is Stephen Fry.

  • @ls-kk4pq
    @ls-kk4pq 5 років тому +20

    "Jesus Use Me" I can't even think of a comeback line I am giggling so hard!

    • @mcfcguvnors
      @mcfcguvnors 5 років тому

      jesus use me cos no blokes in newcastle will go near us pet :P kinell they are scary

  • @jduff7036
    @jduff7036 4 місяці тому +1

    Last one looks like Stephen Fry!

  • @mrcydonia
    @mrcydonia Рік тому +1

    Every time I go to an antique store, I look for that Faith Tones album. So far, no luck.

  • @baddad1981
    @baddad1981 5 років тому +3

    The faith tone in the bottom middle is peter hellier in drag

  • @thedolphin5428
    @thedolphin5428 3 роки тому +1

    Want to see another hundred of those!

  • @jennywhojenny
    @jennywhojenny 13 років тому +8

    I got a Stephen Fry vibe from the Faith Tone on the right.

    • @garethwilliams5809
      @garethwilliams5809 5 років тому

      My thought exactly, when Stephen and High dressed up to do their vox pops. Also a bit of Bill Bailey on the left

  • @pugmahone9439
    @pugmahone9439 3 роки тому +2

    Talk about a lack of self awareness 😂, have any of these people actually had a look at themselves in the mirror, it’s not like they have super model looks 😂

  • @sharkkeeper01
    @sharkkeeper01 5 років тому +5

    Wait a minute....Geraldine and Ricky came to my church once...she’s really funny!!!

  • @Hortondlfn1
    @Hortondlfn1 5 років тому +10

    There are at least three people on that show who don’t have a lot of room, if any at all, to ridicule anyone else’s looks.

    • @troykruse5161
      @troykruse5161 5 років тому

      I know the girl is Jennifer Hudson but who were the other 2 guys on the couch?

    • @tsopmocful1958
      @tsopmocful1958 5 років тому

      I don't think that a lot of the humour in these 'bizarre' record covers is really about anyone's plain looks, but more about the layouts, tone or extremely dated aesthetic.
      I mean the "Use Me Jesus" title is hilarious, and the way the three heads were arranged made them look like they were those wobble headed dashboard ornaments.
      And those sixties perm hairdos combined with horn rimmed glasses were a bit confronting even back in the sixties.
      Meanwhile the Ken and ventriloquist doll ones just looked creepy.
      So it's more a comment on the album cover designers than anything else.

  • @mattjackson9859
    @mattjackson9859 5 років тому +2

    I'm pretty sure the left hand Faith Tone is a young Ian McCulloch, later to join Echo and the Bunnymen...

  • @peach495
    @peach495 4 роки тому +3

    The last one looked like Stephen Fry in a wig.

  • @jonathaneffemey4892
    @jonathaneffemey4892 2 роки тому

    Thanks for posting.

  • @DanStap
    @DanStap 13 років тому +2

    "Barbie's under the patio" hahahahahaha!!!

  • @i.m.7710
    @i.m.7710 4 роки тому +1

    "Saving Grace" one of my favorite movies!!!!! Bill Bailey!!!🚘polka!🎼

  • @tinklvsme
    @tinklvsme 3 роки тому +1

    I LOV e KD Lang! She looks like Merl Streep there. Her voice is magical! Constant cravings ✌️🙏❤️🇺🇸👍

  • @alansturgess1324
    @alansturgess1324 5 років тому +3

    One in glasses - Stephen Fry + beehive

  • @JaneDoe-ci3gj
    @JaneDoe-ci3gj 5 років тому +3

    I'm lauging so hard my stomach is aching😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏

  •  5 років тому +2

    These are pretty mild compared to some of the album covers featured on that website. Some are so bad, they'll make your nose bleed.

    • @Micegift
      @Micegift 5 років тому

      I’m gonna have to go on there as OMG, these were awful. 🤣🤣

    • @R.M.MacFru
      @R.M.MacFru 5 років тому

      Bet I recognise some. 😆

  • @mrcommonsense9074
    @mrcommonsense9074 Рік тому

    Hudson shows her class by being quiet

  • @tombarclay7108
    @tombarclay7108 4 роки тому +1

    The Faith Tone on the left looks like Brendan Fraser in drag.

  • @strike1977
    @strike1977 3 роки тому

    ‘Jesus passed’ 😂

  • @livb6945
    @livb6945 5 років тому +2

    Young Stephen Fry there with the glasses on the last one

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 5 років тому

      It's actually Griff Rhys Jones playing Stephen Fry playing a Faith Tone.

  • @SpaceCattttt
    @SpaceCattttt 5 років тому +1

    "Use me!"
    I wonder if that works as a pickup line?

  • @tomEwylde
    @tomEwylde 12 років тому +13

    the one on the right of the faith tones looks like stephen fry

  • @rronaldd
    @rronaldd 2 місяці тому +1

    Shouldn't be laughing, They need to look at themselves

  • @briankinnear1314
    @briankinnear1314 4 роки тому

    Lmao!! Funny as feck! David cameron with a wig on

  • @gianca60
    @gianca60 4 роки тому

    0:46 this guy should be on one of those covers.

    • @pamelah6431
      @pamelah6431 3 роки тому

      Except he'd find it hilarious. 😆

  • @RIXRADvidz
    @RIXRADvidz 5 років тому +1

    it's David Mitchell, Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry all in Big Boufant Drag !!! oh man it hurts to laugh this much

  • @nobhiker
    @nobhiker 5 років тому +4

    3:07 the guy that should have shaved his head years ago " no self awareness "

  • @petermaxwell2965
    @petermaxwell2965 5 років тому +4

    The pot calling the kettle black !!

  • @craigmcvay1
    @craigmcvay1 5 років тому

    Micheal Van Gerwan 2:41 on the left, when hes not playing darts hes dressing up in the sixties housewifes gear

    • @FACELOWNER
      @FACELOWNER 5 років тому

      That's a great spot, well done.!!

    • @craigmcvay1
      @craigmcvay1 5 років тому

      @@FACELOWNER Thank you, Word will get out now HE HE HE

  • @paulamiles9559
    @paulamiles9559 2 роки тому

    Polyester clothing.✔ Dynel wigs ✔Cat's eye glasses✔ Yes we are ready to roll.

  • @hankwilliams150
    @hankwilliams150 23 дні тому

    There were SO many men in those horrific 70w leisure suits (with the lapels you could lad a 747 on)!

  • @pennydesouza
    @pennydesouza 13 років тому +1

    Graham Norton's stylist has great taste.

  • @A-Duck
    @A-Duck 4 роки тому +1

    "Use me Jesus! No one else will..."

  • @DokkaChapman
    @DokkaChapman 9 років тому +182

    Hudson looking at these covers thinking "......white people"

    • @annerchisline9641
      @annerchisline9641 9 років тому +2

      +Dokka Chapman (The doKtor Dokka) They were done on the Ellen show.

    • @DokkaChapman
      @DokkaChapman 9 років тому +6

      lol, like I'd watch US 'entertainment'

    • @bobmichael9533
      @bobmichael9533 8 років тому +2

      THIS COMMENT IS GOLD

    • @andrewg3768
      @andrewg3768 6 років тому +14

      I don't think colour has anything to do with it I'm sure there are bad covers by African Americans or the like.

    • @numbat0072
      @numbat0072 6 років тому +9

      the joke goes over her head , she just doesn't get it . she had a vastly different upbringing / culture to the others .this type of situation happens alot .
      also GN using the Americanism " i'm good " instead of" i'm OK , no thanks , i'm fine " etc . ggggrrr !

  • @mrthomas394
    @mrthomas394 4 роки тому

    What a pisser... Gets me everytime

  • @ENGABU1
    @ENGABU1 4 роки тому

    It's David Mitchell on the left in the last one...and Daragh O'Briain on the right in the glasses

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines 5 років тому +1

    if the Faith Tones are still around,they definitely regret their album title in 2019

  • @jeffstone2136
    @jeffstone2136 Рік тому

    The one with glasses on The Faith Tones cover looks like Stephen Fry.

  • @stevencassidy6982
    @stevencassidy6982 5 років тому +20

    Jennifer Hudson is taking this far too seriously

    • @misstortitude
      @misstortitude 5 років тому

      It's all down to how the show is edited

    • @stevencassidy6982
      @stevencassidy6982 5 років тому

      @@misstortitude No I've seen her on repeated Nortons and it goes over her head. Not so with KD Lang

  • @infirmux
    @infirmux 3 роки тому

    where is a yt playlist of those gems?

  • @jt1929
    @jt1929 2 роки тому +1

    I hope someone is making t shirts of the covers😂

  • @l.salisbury1253
    @l.salisbury1253 3 роки тому +1

    How could they NOT include "Beastillity" by the HANDSOME BEASTS (NWOBHM 1981)? NO list of bad record covers is complete without that!

  • @lauravelvet2715
    @lauravelvet2715 4 роки тому

    Everything gets better with Bill commenting

  • @eduardojorgemarques
    @eduardojorgemarques 5 років тому +33

    I can't tell whether Hudson was doped out of her mind or just has no sense of humour whatsoever.

    • @haranoe
      @haranoe 5 років тому +6

      If you track the reactions of most pop and movie stars from the USA, you will notice they are rather restraint, maybe both out of consideration for other people, as well as from the intelligence that the rest of that show is sometimes lacking, when it falls into bigger silliness than the one they want to mock.
      Apart from the degree of jadedness they may have developed, or else the grooming they may have received to avoid being singled out as offenders to this or that group of people.

    • @johannalange802
      @johannalange802 5 років тому +3

      It is PC in the US and good breeding to NOT slander or shame people for their looks! If you have nothing nice to say you are expected to keep quiet. You see her shocked face.
      This "hilarious" fun making is quite english. Would they have dared to make fun of stupid looking asian or black people?
      That is why.

    • @emmajh45
      @emmajh45 5 років тому +8

      @@johannalange802 and yet your president does it all the time so not really just the English who do it.

    • @screamsinrussian5773
      @screamsinrussian5773 5 років тому +2

      pc culture is sad

    • @danielaf1487
      @danielaf1487 5 років тому +7

      @@johannalange802 - They're not making fun of their looks but their retro or dated styling and vibe. It is funny - given the chance, Ken would probably laugh at his fashion sense from back then, too. You people honestly take everything far too seriously.

  • @andhisband
    @andhisband 5 років тому +1

    The Faith Tones album should be titled "Beaker Use Me".

  • @bubble992
    @bubble992 13 років тому +1

    i've sene the geraldine and ricky one before! still funny!

  • @Deel2506
    @Deel2506 13 років тому +1

    The Faith Tones. The one on the right looks like Stephen Fry :P

  • @LinkTheFusky
    @LinkTheFusky 5 років тому

    The faith tones look like 70s kids in drag trying to buy beer with their mums IDs

    • @LinkTheFusky
      @LinkTheFusky 5 років тому

      Thats the smile they give the cashier

  • @wkruit
    @wkruit 4 роки тому +1

    1:10 “..he looks Dutch..” No he doesn’t!!!

  • @francaperotti5934
    @francaperotti5934 5 років тому +1

    Bill bailey love him so funny

  • @danielcropp8553
    @danielcropp8553 5 років тому

    The Faithtone on the far right looks like Stephen Fry.

  • @margretgray5408
    @margretgray5408 9 місяців тому

    I think the one with the glasses has more of a young Stephen Fry vibe.

  • @planetgallifreytv
    @planetgallifreytv 12 років тому +4

    Graham has been doing that since 1999! J.Hud needs to crack a smile every now and them haha.

    • @billharris1847
      @billharris1847 5 років тому +2

      She was probably embarrassed because her cover was just as bad

  • @nick-jo3hy
    @nick-jo3hy 5 років тому +14

    Weird trying to imagine a world where it didn't matter what a singer looked like as long as they had a talent to sing.
    No make up industry, plastic surgery or semi porn outfits. Just keep laughing everyone that was the world your parents knew you have left your kids a much worse one !

    • @emilinebelle7811
      @emilinebelle7811 5 років тому

      nick agreed

    • @jrasicmark1
      @jrasicmark1 4 роки тому +1

      I see what you're saying, and in many ways, I agree. It shouldn't matter what someone looks like, their singing should matter most. But I think there's almost always been a make up industry. I think you might have to go back to Shakespeare before you can find a time when there was no make up industry. Or maybe just go back to before the industrial revolution to when there was make up but it wasn't mass produced.
      As to a time when looks weren't as important, that might be when there was radio, but no television. Or even before radio, but they did have records. Or before records when they only had sheet music. They did have Vaudeville stage acts, and I suspect looks were still pretty important there, except in comedy routines.
      But the album covers shown here looked to be from the 60s and 70s, and looks were still very important for the most popular singers of that time. I think record producers still took that into consideration.

  • @TheBushdoctor68
    @TheBushdoctor68 5 років тому +1

    You know what you need Graham? A large grey beard that makes you look 15 to 20 years older.

  • @Littlebit31
    @Littlebit31 4 роки тому

    She did have a David Cameron vibe!

  • @jrasicmark1
    @jrasicmark1 4 роки тому +1

    It's funny, everyone is laughing, but Jennifer just looks a little creeped out! I can't blame her with some of those albums, though! :D

  • @muggedinmadrid
    @muggedinmadrid 12 років тому +3

    hahahaaha that's really witty. lol

  • @rocknroller77
    @rocknroller77 5 років тому +4

    The one with the glasses looks like the man pointing her out

    • @nalomelimaia
      @nalomelimaia 5 років тому

      The one in the glasses... 😳

  • @chromatilla
    @chromatilla 5 років тому

    love KD so much

  • @what-uc
    @what-uc 4 роки тому

    David Mitchell on the left

  • @FelipeVillegasuy
    @FelipeVillegasuy 5 років тому +2

    Ken By request only is actually a really good album. Very funky

    • @Lucyverre
      @Lucyverre 3 роки тому

      If you like religion songs 😂

  • @deenibeeniable
    @deenibeeniable 4 роки тому +1

    Ricky looks like Michael Jackson.

  • @TheDherendra
    @TheDherendra 4 роки тому +2

    The middle one in the faith tones kind off looks like justin bieber

  • @fridenpaden
    @fridenpaden 4 роки тому +1

    Bill Bailey is close to a bad album cover himself with that strange hair.

    • @pamelah6431
      @pamelah6431 3 роки тому

      Yes, but he's known for it and he's a comedian, so... lol