Stackable Generator
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Updating my progress over the last few months designing and testing several generator designs to graft into a gravity generator.
The STL files and assembly directions are now available: • Stackable Generator As...
Please do not stop updating. I am very interested with this project and would love to see more updates in the future.
It sometimes takes me a while to save up and buy parts, and the 3D printing can take up quite a bit of time as well, but I intend to keep working on this one till I have a finished working model.
@@Motionmagneticsif you know you're making a lot of a single shape of part, it might be worth it to make a silicone mold to do injection molding with?
@@animehair05silently88 Good idea.
I love Robert Murray-Smith's videos. Not only is his love of the subject of his videos infectious, he consistently covers genuinely interesting and useful subject matter. It's impossible not to become even more enthusiastic about the wonderful, nerdy stuff I already loved when watching him discuss it. I actually found your channel as a recommendation under one of his!
I couldn't have said it better. He's truly inspiring. Which video did he recommend my channel in? Not sure how I missed that.
@@Motionmagnetics So sorry, I worded that poorly. What I meant was the algorithm suggested your video after watching one of his.
What I was saying was that the UA-cam-brain associates your respective channels with each other.
@@alden1132 Ah, that makes sense. I complimented and recommended his channel in the video. I'm sure UA-cam's algorithms picked up on that.
Yea RMS has been a great leader for a long time.
I really enjoyed this. I’ve been watching RMS myself and have wanted to see more use of capacitors in generating equipment.
I'm not an electrician, but I work for a company that manufactures ventilation systems (mega fans), and the other day, I was having a conversation with one of our senior engineers and I told him what I have understood so far about the fans we're manufacturing. For 7 months, I have been thinking of starting my own project, and hopefully, it will be a business. So, while doing my research, I came across your channel and it amazes me every time I watch a video. Thank you very much, indeed 😊 🎉
What happened to your idea?
@griot-hf5ok : Brotherly advice: If youre able to designed a "perfect or near- perfect" electrical inventions, mechan'l motor, etc., pls use it ONLY personally on your own family + mouth discipline ;
There was a saying : "Learned from the MISTAKE of OTHERS.."... Pls "learned" from the tragic life end of Stanly Meyers, the inventor of "water- for- fuel" system ;
He died mysteriously, after drinking a "cranberry fruit juice", while attending a social gathering, in New York City...😢
Where do I find the file to print the parts in 3D, would be a great help😅
One thing to also try for efficiency is to shift the angle of each stator by a few degrees so that each coil reaches its peak at a different angle of rotation.
This will distribute the voltage ripple and smooth out the electrical "cogging" influence, similar to 3ph but with many more phases in-between.
Thanks for the suggestion. That might be difficult to do with the 3D-printed rotors, as they wobble a bit.
good idea!!!
Cogging has pretty much nothing to do with efficiency, it is just a torque/speed ripple. He has already added a flywheel, so there is no need to fix it. Also cogging normally only occurs in iron cored motors and is an effect of the reluctance force.
Off setting the magnets position in each corresponding stack by 50% should also yield greater efficiency as stated. I also agree that it won't have any real clogging effect as the iron cores are not in play in this style.
This is what you get from watching Robert's videos. His gambit to encourage a community of thinkers is paying off. His ideas are sparking creativity in others. What a legacy. To the young man who made this video, thank you for taking what's in the box, yet thinking out of the box. Who knows where we'll end up? That's pretty cool. Amazing video. Definitely thumbs up!!
I have absolutely no experience but have had the stackable generator in my head for years. Run by weights like a coo coo clock. Awesome to see it coming together.
We must both be tapping into some universal creative consciousness or something?
Even I have had the same idea.. 😮😮
Thanks for sharing this. As a retired Electrical & Electronics Engineer I found this fascinating and admire your approach in your endeavours to produce a working design from your experimentation. I look forward to watching your future episodes of this project.
Thank you! That means a lot to me coming from a retired Electrical & Electronics Engineer. I'm looking forward to building more of it and sharing it.
where as i see a complete refusal to accept any of the tried and true design methods developed over the last century or so. wheres the minimal reluctance magnetic path?
wheres any attempt to calculate flux density?
is there the merest mention of jacobs law, the resistance of the windings versus the load?
was there any effort put into optimising turns ratios and pole areas?
simply spinning a wheel and measuring a few volts proves nothing... wheres the test on the power required to spin it versus the power it can deliver to a load? the efficiency of the system?
its waving magnets past wires and even faraday 2 centuries ago with no previous source material to fall back on had a better understanding of the principles to maximise performance...
these sort of videos are the antithesis of good engineering.
To counter the statement "these sort of videos are the antithesis of good engineering", you can argue that good engineering practices are essential for ensuring the safety, reliability, and efficiency of any system. Which I agree with. Also poor design choices or lack of attention to detail can lead to negative outcomes, such as accidents, injuries, and loss of life. Therefore, it is important to prioritize good engineering practices and invest in the necessary resources to ensure that they are followed. Innovation and thinking outside of the box is an important approach that can, but not always, lead to a radical design which could beneficial in its outcome. Basically if you think you can do it better, by all means give it a go. After all you may well turn out to be the next ‘Nikola Tesla’!
@@onlooker251 why does it always have to be "nikola tesla"?
how about rankine kennedy? why doesnt he ever get a mention despite developing certain devices that are claimed as teslas?
sorry, ive known about tesla for decades, well before the current mythical cult status.
yes, he did amazing things but please dont crap in my ear about him. ive heard it all before. theres plenty of other people who have been ignored and overlooked as well from that era.
this guy recommends using bolts as cores for coils. wheres the high permeability laminations for maximum magnetic flux density and the minimisation of eddy current and hysteresis losses? wheres the reduction of air gaps to the bare minimum?
so i stick to my statement, these are the antithesis of good engineering practice, a waste of time, money, resources, making a barely performing device when an off the shelf unit will easily outperform it and has documented efficiency to back it up.
if he actually was attempting something revolutionary, or figured out how to overcome certain issues, im all for it.
but he hasnt. it isnt evolution, its taking ten steps backwards.
@@onlooker251all that supposed experience and jibber jabber with no practical input.
Thank you for all you do! Can’t wait to see more.
Rob is one of my favorite also. He’s a wealth of knowledge
Thanks! I can't wait to do more.
He really is a treasure.
Bravo.........its like u read my mind.........plug and play...........like a snow man.......three sizes small,medium,large .......cheers
Good deal. Thanks!
Let's get you some more money! This is going to be a game-changer. Well done, very well done.
Thanks. Cashflow is often a hindrance to expedient progress. I am hoping this type of system will help change the game and provide fast and inexpensive energy.
This is not a game changer. This is 10 year old technology. Guess why nobody uses it?
@@MrSummitvilleWhy? I’m genuinely curious and don’t know the answer to this. Is it because of diminishing returns? Eddy currents too strong in this setup?
If only each subscriber sent 50 cents he will get over $25ooo. I want help this genius.
@@andrewsiurda6780 Thanks. Money isn't my main motivator. I just want to show people how to be a little bit more energy-independent. I will admit that it wouldn't take as long to get everything built if I didn't have to save up money for parts all the time though.
I really like your stackable generator design. It could be used to make generators with customizable outputs, which is very cool.
Thanks! Exactly, you could choose the configuration that fits your particular needs.
you're doing it wrong, you could make the winding flatter, which would reduce the dimensions of the structure надеюсь ты прочтёшь ))@@Motionmagnetics
yeah keep it in that sweet spot of 85% efficiency no matter what the load.
Electrician here, I'd like to offer some advice. I would create two stacks. Each one in series to get to your desired voltage, then run them both parallel to up your amperage. It's called series-parallel. You get the best of both worlds without driving yourself nuts on creating tons of stacks to reach your ultimate goal. Using the capacitors is great, but I think you also might want to toss a resistor in on the negative side to slow their drain rate.
Both are great suggestions! Thank you!
This is phenomenal man. I've been working on a stackable generator as a side project, but haven't gotten my new stator/rotor design up yet (or my first stack) so I still didn't know if it was a good path to take. This is very validating and the serpentine coil is going to save me loads of time. Thanks for posting this!
Thanks! Glad to be of help. Keep working on it. I'm glad so many of us have arrived at a similar approach.
Stackable motor ...stackable motors.. .take a look at the rare earth magnets and copper free motors of 🇬🇧 Advanced Electrical Machines. ..they also regen particularly efficiently.
The big advantage beyond not consuming rare earth magnets and copper windings they can free wheel with no cogging resistance when running or switched off.
Theres a definite need a modern light compact high output generator.
To be powered by the likes of the Liquid piston rotary combustion motors especially for hybrid off grid living like on sailing boats or motor boats using electric motors and smaller battery packs..
Running a Stoichiometric optimum a combustion motor uses half the fuel and burns cleaner and runs longer without needing servicing so much.
If you havent checked them out see..These Edison Canadian logging truck guys have built Topsy a super functional powerful electric hybrid logging truck. 😎
The other type of generator is the reciprocating free piston design as pioneered by Durham university🇬🇧 and then developed by Toyota.
Meanwhile keep Wombling 🧙♂️👍🏼
Super cool, my friend. I've always wanted to play with power generation, and now you've only increased that desire!
Thanks! Glad I could help feed your interest.
Nice. I'm currently finishing up my first axial flux wind generator using Rob's videos and STLs. Your information on rectification was very helpful, made it look very easy with the simple 'twist it together' approach. If my first attempt works out, I'll have to have a proper think about attempting something modular like this. Very smart approach.
Thanks. Glad I could help. I got most of that from Robert so I felt it only fair to pass it along.
"Im not an electrician". Says the guy who successfully builds a modular electric generator on his first try
Thanks, you're very kind.
Thanks for what you have been trying to figure a wat to make a generator for years tgis isn't a first attempt. No need for coils and magnets when using gravity or flywheels
That's an EE tho, actually even more so mechanical engineering.
The electrician just make sure it's safely installed and energized, even tho most of them know their stuff enough to know what's going on, but really most electricians hardly even think about ohms law... Right? I hope I'm right at least maybe I'm wrong but the only thing I know for sure is if you throw half a box of brand new screws whenever you work on a box then you ARE an electrician and I thank you for the free screws u guys are crazy.
What if looms dreams at doing human stuff when there asleep! The wet dreams is like outer . So the opposite souls on Alien 👽👾 digital age stuff ship for 12ships if builting on earth in Mt tops! Ooo it's xfikes stuff now! We're at age lol
I think you mean "Electronics Tech". In my experience, electricians don't know much about electronics!
Love it. I recognized RMS's serpentine coil at the beginning. Glad you gave him Props. I appreciate what you are doing. I'm off grid for 20+ years and last 8 running a small sewing shop. Keep up the great tinkering!!
I loved the update and your enthusiasm and tenacity! Well done indeed!
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Great work. the holy grail for generators is one that has no drag when under load. It was interesting to hear that the capacitors would help with that.
It just seemed to me that connecting several axial flux coil systems in a stacked configuration would create less drag than coils with iron cores. Seems to be working so far.
Cool project. I recommend to go for 24v system or more. There is a cheap and good 300w MPPT boost controller, with the blue label on it. So it makes it a lot easier to charge on variable speed.
Good suggestion. I'll look into that. I only picked 12v to work with small standard inverters for the initial testing.
Yea so consider 48v that would be huge.
great concept This video help me with sizing Wire Which I have. I ran Commercial dryer On Solar for 1 year. That it rotate extremely well. Magnets on the drum helps. Infinity spin
Thanks. Sounds like you have yourself a pretty good setup there. Good for you!
So glad to see you still working, looking forward to your more complete design
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching. I'm looking forward to it as well.
Beautiful, love how simply and well you explain this. Great work on the infographics too, really helps. I can see your passion for the subject and it's rubbing off on me lol.
Thanks, that kind of you to say.
i did your gen on paper a long time ago seeing this i wish i built it, good for you bubby
It's never too late. I'd love to see more of them out there.
I’ve been subscribed for a while and appreciate all that you do, and kudos to you for mentioning Robert Smith- he is one of my favorites. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate you. You have great taste, Robert Smith is truly inspiring.
It’s fascinating when a creative content creator such as yourself gets recommend from the algorithm…. This video got you a new subscriber.
Thank you! I have no idea what causes the algorithms to recommend certain videos. Wish I did. I just try to create things that I find interesting and hope people will enjoy them as much as I enjoy creating them.
@@Motionmagnetics I think it’s partly to the content I watch… also for your system the smaller the gaps the more of a flux you get… once you get it down pat… I’d try a few where you compress the coils(maybe zip tie through a thinner wall on the back of the 3d printed holder, and fill with epoxy resin. Then you can make that gap a bit smaller.
Also if you get this further, there are sites that would allow yo to design and order a pcb circuit board to solder the diode/capacitors to and also a power connector and individualized fuses for each of the coil circuits.
Also pulling the string made me think of a clock, I wonder if there would be a way to make a grandfather clock style generator? Lol I mean using gears ⚙️ to change a heavy gravitational force into a maximum rotational force (100lb weight, with a gear box that would take at least 24 hours to spin that shaft at a higher velocity (rpm) and connect to a charge controller… to a battery bank? Then if it would be possible to use a different gear to quickly raise that weight every day to reset?
I am a delusional initiative idiot… 😆😂😆ignore my rambling nonsense if you want 😂😆😂
@@clearwax I was considering doing something like that later, using epoxy resin.
Good suggestion. Also, if it gets to the point where people are replicating my generator it might help them to be able to order circuit boards from the same place I have them designed at.
That’s exactly what I’m doing with the gears. I don’t know if you noticed them laid out in front of the generator at one point in the video, but I also described the grandfather clock process using gears in my video “Gravity Generator Concept and Design”. Great minds think alike, my friend.
@@Motionmagnetics I hope it works out! Am interested to see where it goes from here. 👍
I'm also a big fan of Robert Murray Smith. I really dig your stackable generator.
I search his new videos uploads nearly every day, and thanks!
Robert Murray …. Is ONE. of the few ,smart enough to. Number his shows. … great reference points….
It's a brilliant idea! Makes it easier for him to reference things that link together to save time as well as expand on the information.
You could really benefit from a project frame. Get some Square pipe, make a right triangle with a 90. Make it at any height you wish. You can even tear out a bicycle frame, and sandwich bolted to that frame. I did tons of generator projects growing up, a good right angle frame can be an entire day's worth of time saved on every project you use it. Super easy to make it into a multi-jig frame. You can attach Motors, any kind of drive or gear step up box can be directly bolted to it, you can imagine😊
For your generator build, you could even just screw everything down to a big board, make a couple 2x4 runners that reinforce it, then strap your frame down and align it. Not too hard to align and get it mostly on point with a buddy.
Nice job. Ive been watching Rob for years. Never stop learning.
Thanks. Absolutely!
Awesome work. Great idea!
Thank you!
120 db opening, 70 db narration. Nice.
A really cool technique I was taught when I was young. Take a good dry 4x4, drill some anchor bolts with common top thread that's in your eyelet size, throw a nut, washers and your eyes, sandwich it, and you have effectively a long project board that you can throw on the bench, and reuse, time and time again. I had one through my teens that was used on so many generator projects when I was convinced I was going to charge batteries off of our Old Creek
I subscribed to your channel! You are doing so many projects that I have wondered about and mulled over through the years., I have a lot of drawings of ideas but lack of funding and probably a lack of gumption kept me from actually experimenting and building the things I’ve drawn over the years. I am especially excited to see your stacked generator ( that’s how I found your channel ). I use to drive a truck for a living and had a couple hours everyday before I got to my first stop which gave me lots of time to mull over ideas and think about how they might work. I’d make sketches of my ponderings and talk to friends about them. I was excited to see a company called “Lutec” actually building a stacked generator like I had drawn., they claimed that it could run itself and they had a short video of a prototype (looked like CG to me) actually running. I thought this was a good idea, I’m so glad to see someone actually building one. I still believe the stacked generator will not only work, but could be, very easily made to run itself, producing excess power.
Your videos are great and so is your line of thinking and tinkering! I’ll be watching!
I have piles of design sketches, so I know just what you mean.
I remember the Lutec motor. It was featured on a mainstream news show and then slowly vanished from the spotlight.
Your line of thinking parallels my own.
Thanks! Do great things!
2:55 I will definitely be subscribing. This is the kind of projects I would love to even get in on.
Getting pretty good longevity out of ASA gears on wet or greased applications. Great for prototyping BTW, I would say cheaper due to must actual material needed. Not to mention, it's UV, electrical properties, especially the blends. Truly is the all weather application filament. I have various brackets, larger, bike and bird feeder hangers/mounts, and hooks. They've gone multiple Winters and Summers that have been pretty hot.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm getting ready to test a new gear setup once I order some more filament. I think metal gears would be best for long-term durability but I'm still looking at ways to 3D print them reliably.
Awesome project. Thank you for sharing knowledge.
Thanks, and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the update on the generator. Keep going with this idea, it looks promising.
Will do, thanks!
I charge up a bank of super capacitors via my e-bike (6x 500F, same as yours) on a back-wheel standard. I need to peddle roughly 1 minute and that gives me about 3 Wh of energy. (in 1 minute I peddle 180 Wh for a minute). Usually I charge up my phone (a 12v to 24 V USB car charges does the buck part). I also run an ipod from that usb to listen to the (internet) radio all day, 1 minute of peddling gives about 4 hours of music. To prevent the power going back from the caps to the motor (which I use as generator) I just us a rather large diode (one from a motorbike I had laying around, it has a metal shell for draining the excessive heat). When the caps are empty I use a very low gear, and as they voltage creeps up I can change gears up and up. My ebike does have a 24 Volt motor, which is very convenient to create 16 Volt. A 36 Volt or higher motor would need a buck controller like you used.
Keep up the experimenting. You do are going crazy on the amount of (needed) magnets, it makes your project rather expensive I think. I would not go that far. You may be better af using an old handheld battery powered drill. It has the motor (as a generator) and gears already. But there will be less fun in building that, I agree. It depends on your purpose. Mine was to force me to have some form of exercise every day, and do something useful with that energy. PS: I subbed to Murray many years ago, great enthusiasm he has!
Thanks for the comment. Sounds like you have the process worked out pretty well to suit your needs. Did you upload a video of your pedal generator?
Yes, the magnets can get expensive. It would definitely be cheaper to scrap them out of something or use a motor as a generator. Though perhaps not as fun?
@@Motionmagnetics I do have one or two very old movies with the ebike. The bike is still working, but I have not made a video for a long while. On my channel you do can see me powering several electric devices.
@@deslomeslager I found it. You should do more with that. Love your setup and the simplicity of it! Great video!
i love the idea of an expandable generator good thinking
and robert murry smith is a mine of useful information
Thanks. He certainly is.
So. You think that you just keep adding more modules with absolutely no bad side-effects?
Awesome video..!! This is exactly the same mechanical design that I have done some work on, but have had to put on the back burner for the past couple of month.. I have one considerable design change that could greatly improve the overall output efficiency of your electrical design..
Your mechanical design looks awesome, no improvements I can see there other than maybe experimenting with magnet arrangement using Halbach array and possibly a thin steel 14-16 Gauge backing plate on the outside of the outer most magnet disk at each end to increase magnetic field strength across the coil, plus getting the magnets to pass as close to the coils as possible without touching the coil.!! Throwing the absolute maximum magnetic field using N52 Neodymium magnets or even stronger, I think N52 was the strongest available the last time I checked..
Fullwave bridge rectifiers using diodes are very easy to build and inexpensive, but are not the most efficient considering 0.7volts x 2 diodes = 1.4 volts is clipped across the diodes in both polarities.. I suppose you could consider it as 2.8v peak to peak loss being clipped from the AC side of the rectifier..
A super efficient bridge rectifier circuit can be designed using MosFET's that will approach a 0 volt loss during rectification, plus have a much higher current rating than diodes..
I imagine one of these FET rectifier circuits attached to each coil with the Super Capacitor banks you are already using to store a massive amount of output charge, then series the Super capacitor banks for each generator coil to produce your final cumulative output voltage..
This would turn your design into a full on power scavenger..;) The precision of the bearings would also be a consideration in reducing drag.. Good Stuff..!!
Exceptional job on the 3D printing..!! Looks like you have more views than subscribers, that its awesome..!! Earned my Subscription..!!
Thank you! Much appreciated! Those are all great suggestions for improving the efficiency.
@@Motionmagnetics I think this design may have the potential to be one of the most efficient designs ever imagined..
Next to figure out how to incorporate this design into a Tesla Turbine that could spool up to 20-30k RPM.. ;)
This is almost the exact design I was planning. One addition to mine was a clutch attached to the gear box so stopping the input allowed the generator to keep running. I would also have used automotive rectifiers, as they're pretty inexpensive, but the MOSFET idea sounds way better. Thanks for posting!
Eureka! It has come to life. A better infinity motor. And geared. Space Station to Motor bike developements. Great job!
Thanks!
"infinity motor"
Great video! However I think the problem with stacking is that the main cause of inefficiency in a generator is the air gap between the magnet and coils. It's better to have just one segment with larger magnets / coils and to invest in less wobbling to decrease the air gap than using multiple stacks each with an extra air gap
Yes. There are gaps in the 3D printed prototype, but the idea is to have a final version at some point that is machined and doesn't have as big of air gaps.
I'll disagree. You may lose some efficiency in generation with a stack but you gain more power from the same mechanical input. I'm working on a similar design and it seems very sensible.
Great project! I love Robert’s videos and I’m really glad he made his tnt omnibus channel that lumps several videos together based on a topic
Thanks! Yes, it saves time being able to watch all the info in one video, rather than having to look up several individual ones.
Are these files available somewhere? I love the layout you have
Nice work.
Thanks.
im also a robert murray smith fan! ive been watching him for a decade now! this is one of the best generator videos ive seen! i appreciate you making this!
That is awesome. I was pondering just yesterday why people didn't do coils on both sides of a single magnet array like that.
A thing you might try, and I don't know if it would matter, is make your magnets match (NN/SS) on either side of the coil, or offset each magnet ring a bit so you get a faster N/S flip. I just think having opposing magnetic fields affecting the same spot on the coil at the same time may affect your output. maybe not. I may not be thinking on that right or got your arrangement wrong in my head. (as I understand it you have a N on one side of the coil and a S on the other, alternating, right?) if you Offset each magnetic ring, it should, if I'm thinking on this right, double the speed each segment of the coil is getting it's field flipped which Should get you more output.
Something to try, anyway. Keep up the good work
Thanks. I have each rotor set up like a standard wind generator, alternating north to south with each magnet. The rotors are all lined up so that each north pole attracts a south on the next rotor, and each south a north, held evenly apart by spacers. That removes the drag so that they spin freely through the coils in the stators.
@@Motionmagnetics canceling out back emf? Makes sense
So nice to hear you are back on UA-cam fella. I like your method of stackable and scalable designs Robert Murray has one great channel too. Peace motion magnetics. Have yourself a Happy Holidays too. vf
Thank you. Happy Holidays to you as well.
Excellent project..
Thank you.
i have wanted to build this for ages, please do me a favour, rig a small dc motor to drive the shaft, power it from one half coil and use caps to smooth it out, i wish i could have put this together myself, excellent build, well worth the sub this could essentially pave the way to creating a self sustaining mechanical generator
I'm planning on making the STL files available after I work a couple of kinks out, so you're more than welcome to alter my design and move some things around to test your idea.
honestly i dont think my 3d printer pen is up to the challenge lmao@@Motionmagnetics
@@Motionmagnetics I am eagerly awaiting this, I actually bought a 3d printer this week, specifically in anticipation of this. Seriously!
@@thejaff23 Wow, I'm honored and humbled by that. I'm putting together an assembly guide video now that should be online soon with the STL files.
It's nice to see someone else who enjoys Thinking and Tinkering.
There are quite a few of us.
its awesome. i've been wanting to try something similar, but with big plate capacitors for each coil before rectification to see if the capcitor will make it behave as if the coil was bigger. i guess i could try lendon jar capacitors, but i wanted one of the negative plates to be earth grounded, and not wired to the other negative plates, i was also going to put a giant diode on the groundind rod wire to block positive charges from lightning static and nearby electric poles.
I know the capacitors smooth out the current. If you're doing something that requires more current to start it the capacitor could prove useful, so long as it's not draining it quicker than the coil charges it.
you are right, i didnt think about that, still, i wonder, can a semi earth grounded plate capacitor with 100,000 volt diode act to make a tiny coil behave as if it were a massive coil?@@Motionmagnetics
@@gristlevonraben i'm no engineer, just a hobbyist. but capacitive reactance and inductive reactance are sort of opposites of each other, so connecting a cap to a coil might not work as you want it to. maybe a proper engineer can enlighten us both :)
Well, I'm no engineer, but I am an experienced comment creator 😁 so maybe I can clear this up a little.
Based on what you said about putting a cap _before_ the rectifier, it seems like you're hoping to achieve some sort of resonance effect, although I'm not sure to what end. A coil of any physical size can have any inductance, depending on how it is built and the same goes for capacitors.
When a coil is placed in parallel with a capacitor and driven at resonance the circulating current will be larger than the input current by a factor called the Q factor (for Q>1). In series it will be the voltage across both the cap and coil that will be magnified by the Q but in either case they are just passing energy back and forth. Taking energy out of the system is equivalent to reducing the Q.
Note that the Q can also be one or less, in which case the system is termed critically damped or overdamped.
The tesla coil is meant to exploit a pair of radically different but matched impedances to increase voltage gain well beyond the turns ratio. In that case it is the square of the ratio of the secondary inductance to primary inductance that determines the theoretical gain but real world performance also depends on Q and many other factors. But that's another comment for another video.
in other words, it could raise voltage or dampon it, so try it and see? my idea is, to see if a truly negative earth ground's feild can be added to a circuit without being physically connected and through plate capacitance couple with the inductor to raise energy potential so as to self propel a small motor that turns the generator. in other words, a way to use earth's electric field withought grounding it out@@whatelseison8970
It's an absolute joy to watch your design come to life!
One suggestion that I would personally implement if I get to building one would be using a Mosfet rectifier instead of the regular diode rectifier.
Mosfet rectifiers are a lot more efficient in terms of voltage drops and will squeeze out most wattage from the generator, and since you achieved over 10V the Mosfets would have no issue fully opening (gate over voltage protection would be required though, a zener diode might be sufficient).
Thanks! And thanks for the suggestion.
Great video! You put a lot of time and effort on this generator. My question would be: Do you know how much more efficient this would be compared to a traditional wind turbine and would it be cost effective? Nevertheless even if you don't have this answer yet never give up and continue with building it. Must be nice to have a working 3d printer for these templates.I found your work to be excellent on this build. I look forward to seeing your next video 👍👍👍
Thank you! I intended this to be a smaller-scale generator that could be upscaled later. That said, it actually managed to produce more power than I thought it would. Ideally though, for greater energy requirements I'd probably suggest a stacked version of an axial flux generator, similar to what you'd see in a wind turbine, connected to a series of gears or chains with a weight being used to power the system. The weight could then be reset using a pulley system.
*LESS* efficient...
Thats.. Amazing! I was trying to do something similar with roberts generator but your improvements look very good and you were multiple steps ahead of me!.. How long do you think it will take before the stl files and part list becomes available? After watching your video I'd love to recreate and experiment with your design
Thank you! Hopefully not long. I need to order some more filliment to test a couple of things and then I'll probably make the files available. I'm completely out at the moment.
First time here but can see that this guy is a genius . Cosmic blessing to you and your subscribers.🇦🇺❤️🙏🏻
Thanks. Not sure I'm a genius, but that's very kind of you to say.
I work in appliance repair and get broken or used transformers, stators, magnetrons if “bad” transformers are acceptable.
Gave you a like as soon as you gave the shout out to Robert. He is awesome and that serpentine coil rocks.
Thank you! He a genius with a positive attitude and great since of humor.
I like that you didn’t use the core…less drag the better imo
Definitely
I've just discovered your channel, this is awesome. Your approach is well thought out. The design seems very good.i can't wait to see it progressing further. I think your onto a winner mate.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
im wondering, why not have a single dual side axis motor module in the middle of the generator, same sized module as the generator modules, placed off center, away form the motor? if you power and turn the entire axle outward sideways from the center, and generate using two or four side modules for feeding back power to capacitor bank then feedback into motor, and perhaps two more generator modules even further out on the same axle, for eventual loads or flywheels. we should put in 1 turn from the motor, and generate 4x from the same generated motion, perhaps a portion feedback into the motor itself and use some to power another device? 1 in 4 out? every module has the same dimensions which simplify it all greatly. a motor module and a generator module we can repeat. maybe we can add and rewove modules to the generator system in use, or on the fly, by using magnetic couplings also designed into the rotor.
I've considered setting up separate sections of the generator powering different things, like capacitor banks.
@@Motionmagnetics im guessing its about putting in 1 and getting out 2. 1 rotation, multiple generating points along the one axle. spinning the axle with all the magnets for generation, is the actual load.
Awesome bro! I have given up trying to learn the electrical component and focused on the engineering of a backyard wind turbine and using a car alternator. Kudos for the TNT plug. He is awesome and inspiring like yourself. Well done!
I love that you mentioned robert murray smith. That dude is just the best.
I completely agree.
I could learn so much from this guy, I'd enjoy learning a lot more
Great video cool design for your generator I like it. You got yourself a new subscriber
Thanks, good to have you!
You will exceed the torque and balance of your eccentric shaft. But run it for what it's worth man. Really cool.
Robert Murray smith is a great guy and a good teacher.
Absolutely!
Thank you for sharing your project..
Thanks for watching.
Very impressive mate. Been watching your vids for a very long time. Congrats on the generator and I love the design!
Thank you, good to hear from you!
You may want to consider incorporating fan blades into the rotors for cooling. Something similar to either a centrifugal or a squirrel cage fan maybe.
I suggest this because I imagine the possibility that once you really start generating power for any real length of time that the plastic may succumb to the heat of the coils. Just a thought, maybe you'll read this and remember if you need it 😊. Keep up the good work, awesome project!
Awesome video brother! Great project can’t wait to see how it turns out!! Keep us updated
Thank you! Will do!
I'm using a serpentine coil design just like you are and it's amazing and now I'm starting to think about his flywheel design and then I stumbled across your video
I'm here because Rob gave your channel a shout out as well.
Well, that was really nice of him. Which video was that? I must have missed it.
Great work . I'm excited to see more. Thanx for sharing.
Thanks. I'm looking forward to putting more of it together to share.
very very cool generator...Love the fact that its all 3d printed
Thanks. That makes it all the more satisfying when you can design and 3D print it yourself.
Great ideas! Keep us posted!
Thanks! Will do.
I like the stackable idea, I have been thinking the same. The big disadvantage I see you have is that you have massive air gaps which effects your Magnetic reluctance. The frame around the coils have to be fabricated from soft iron to allow a low reluctance magnetic cct. Also minimize your air gaps for the same reason.
Agreed. I'm trying to put together a version that anyone with a 3D printer could throw together. You're right though. For something more efficient it should be machined and more precise.
Great work and video! I cant wait for the next one!
Thanks! I'm hard at work on the next one now.
Trust me, it's not too difficult, everyone's knowledge left behind to us all. I've been learning off of many people growing up. Been doing nothing but learning learning and learning, filling that knowledge from everything from a therapist, doctor, master carpenter, electrical, other science, and everything else I come across. Unable to get material items, I lack my ability to make something new towards powering and vehicle engineering. Ask whatever.
Nice work you need to add swing waits that will do the spinning for your generator then just kick back and watch your per·pet·u·al power grow A nuff to run a space ship
Now all I need is a space ship.
Awesome job! Looking forward to the watching the next video 👍🏽
This is AMAZING! I would never be able to recreate this masterpiece (no printer and lack of $ 😆), but this opened up so many ideas because I’m putting something similar together with stuff I find at the junkyard or dump… the lady at the dump holds stuff for me and I got 4 microwaves earlier today!
That's probably all you'll need. You can build wonders out of simple items people discard.
Big RMS fan myself. Love your channel!
He's the best! Thanks!
If the capacitors are discharging into the charge controller its possible the controller doesnt have reverse current protection.
Maybe just install a diode or two between the controller and the capacitors to make sure the flow is one way?
Also that "charge controller" looks more like a basic voltage regulator or DC-DC Boost Converter and yeah most of them don't have reverse current protection and I've fried a few of them by back driving a stepper motor not thinking about it.
It is a Buck Converter, and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have reverse current protection.
You're the second person who has suggested a diode between the controller and capacitors. I'll probably give that a try. Thanks!
Awesome project..thanks for the detail..keep the great work..
Thanks, much appreciated!
Wow, really enjoying your generator projects. I wish youtube had shown this to me sooner. Subscribing!
Thank you! Glad to have you aboard!
Iwas/am a retired electrician, being one was no big deal for me...wasnt what i wanted to do, but ill say having a license of one never made feel was anything special.
Glad to see youre able to do what youve done.
you should really look into crystal batteries, there is something in that design that will propel the future of energy generation i believe.
Robert Murray is brilliant literally anything you need he'll teach you to build it from scratch brilliant guy definitely thought provoking you too bro
I agree, he's the best!
You can also make "Phantom Power" from a coil or two to make Rectified eletromagnets in place of Permanent Magnets to be self sustaining till friction wins out...Keep experimenting Keep Expanding your mind ❤
Thanks!
Best channel, great to see an upload
You're too kind, thanks!
I like this idea of a gravity battery or generator. In one of Roberts videos he made a 3d printed chain and I was thinking that you could use this, like in a cuckoo clock, to add to the gravity generator.
I saw that. What originally sparked the idea of building this was a series of videos I watched on Clock Escapements, so we're thinking along the same lines, and apparently, Robert is as well.
@@Motionmagnetics I seen those escapement videos to. Ya they kind of inspired me as well. The pendulum swinging back and forth.
On the flywheel, I was thinking of a centrifugal clutch.
@@silverpc4611 so many things you could do with escapement designs.
Well shoot, I have drawings in a notebook of ideas somewhat similar to this. I started it on and off a couple years ago but never made it to the prototyping phase. Looks good, keep up the good work!
Thank you! I've had a couple of other people say that to me. I'm guessing we're all tapping into something like a collective consciousness and we sense that there is a particular need that isn't being met with standard power generation methods and we're all arriving at the same simple solution to the problem.
We all have to start somewhere.
If your aiming for a Attraction/Repulsion setup without physical input, hint; Angle Magnets.
That is sexy. I linked 3 stator and coils to 1 engine once. It worked for a little bit before it all flew apart at high rpm and I took a connector rod to the face, hahahha. I couldn't believe I survived.
OMG, you might want to slow the RPM next time. Glad you're ok.
My advice would be to avoid energy conversions wherever possible, to minimize losses, so if you plan on using it to power usb devices or charge usb battery banks, tune the generator windings to output around 7 volts at typical rotational speed, and likewise aim for 14V if you plan on using 12V devices. You can even tap both 7 and 14V at the same time from a pair of generators connected in series.
Feeding a regulator from an input only a couple volts above the output voltage also reduces losses as it won't get hot.
Likewise, adapt your devices to the generator where possible, using marine/RV lighting, refrigeration, radio, 12V laptop etc, skipping the inverter and potentially adapters.
Speaking of inverter, as long as your input is guaranteed to be steady, e.g. 400rpm, you can also produce 120V 60Hz AC directly by again adjusting the windings as needed and stacking enough generators to get the desired output voltage and power.
Thanks for the advice.
You should make a “MHPEG” A Magnetic High Pressure Electric Generator (MHPEG) with pressurized chambers arranged in a circular formation utilizes the principles of air pressure displacement to generate movement and electrical energy. Ima break down the process step by step:
1. Chamber Arrangement: The MHPEG consists of a series of pressurized chambers arranged in a circular formation. These chambers are interconnected, forming a closed-loop configuration. The circular arrangement allows for a continuous flow of air or gas through the system.
2. Magnetic Ring: The magnetic ring is typically made of a ferromagnetic material, such as iron or steel. It is positioned in such a way that it passes through all the chambers, forming a closed-loop magnetic circuit.
3. Pressure Difference: The key to the movement in the MHPEG lies in the pressure difference between the chambers. Each chamber is pressurized differently, creating a variation in air pressure along the circular formation. This pressure difference is achieved by controlling the input or output of compressed air or gas into each chamber.
4. Air Pressure Displacement: When there is a pressure difference between two adjacent chambers, the air or gas from the higher-pressure chamber will naturally flow towards the lower-pressure chamber. This displacement of air causes a push or thrust on the magnetic ring within the chambers.
5. Ring Movement: As the air or gas displacement occurs, the magnetic ring experiences a force or pressure imbalance, creating a movement. This movement can be rotational, as the magnetic ring travels through the circular arrangement of the pressurized chambers.
6. Mechanical Energy Conversion: The movement of the magnetic ring is harnessed to generate mechanical energy. This energy can be transferred to a rotor or a central shaft, which then drives a mechanical system such as a generator or turbine.
7. Electrical Energy Generation: The mechanical energy generated by the movement of the magnetic ring is finally converted into electrical energy using the connected generator. The rotational movement of the shaft or rotor induces the generation of electricity through electromagnetic principles, typically using coils and magnets.
In summary, the MHPEG with pressurized chambers arranged in a circular formation utilizes the pressure difference between chambers to displace air or gas, which in turn moves the magnetic ring. The movement of the magnetic ring generates mechanical energy, which is then converted into electrical energy through a connected generator.
Interesting idea. Not sure I'd have the patience to do all of that, but I'd love to see the final result if you decide to build that and share the results.
You can use transfer to filter the dc , dc goes thru primary , ac noise will be on secondary
beautiful and realistic design herr,s s suggestion hope it will be useful for you - You will get better efficiency if you use 3 phase winding in each stator instead of single phase, this way you generate maximum output from a single stator. You have 5 stators and 5 rotors if each stator is a 3 phase it will generate 3 times more output per stator as compared to the current single phase stator hope it helps 🙏
Thanks for the suggestion.
Great job, Sir Robert!
im not into generators but i enjoyed you video , as man who love science i wish you success .