I can't believe I waited until now to search for Coleman lantern repair/restore. I have been dumb-assing this for a long time. Thank you for your help. I can work this out.
Both my lanterns now have the slotted caps. One stove still has the cap with only a hole but I shall be careful and replace it next order. Great video, I have watched it twice now.
very helpful! Thank you. I bought an old lantern years ago and I could see the gasket was worn in the fuel cap. I replaced the cap with a new Colman cap just by instinct. Good to know my instincts were good.
I’ve probably watched ten of your videos today. Every time, I think how much I love that intro grin sitting next to the lamp. Like Burt Reynolds in Smokey and the bandit.
I just received my parts from your web site. Now that I have watched your video I will be able to replace the gasket in the filler cap on my 502 stove. Thank you for your help, Dale Searcy Roy Utah.
I was unaware of all these details. Thank you for sharing this safety information! No small thing... And again, everything is so well done! I've had much fun learning and look forward to more!
You make great videos. Easy to follow and very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. Shout out to your wife for her skills with the camera. She zooms in at the right times and ensures we see everything we need to. You make a great team. Once again, thx and cheers from Canada!
Hello sir. Sure nice to meet you. I'm gonna go ahead and unpack my bags here since I just subscribed I recon I'll stay the weekend. Maybe longer. Dont mind me lol
Great tutorial mate,thanks very much for sharing. A good insight to what can happen..b4 it happens. Lets face it sh@$ happens!! Great work on the strengths and weakness of each different cap and pressurised example. I am new to this Colemania stove flu virus,but i got it bad..(not complaining,never felt better!!) So your presentation in safety was invaluable. Really appreciate you sharing your experience with these stoves.Great video as per usual,for a newbie like me. Thanks again Murray Howe Sydney Australia.
Frank, you're a saint. Thank you so much for your well explained and very informative videos. I'm new to lantern collecting and have now rebuilt 4 different lanterns based on your tutorials. They were all a bit crusty and it's amazing how a little work can bring new life to them. Please keep making videos my friend!
@@OldTownColeman Awesome! Can't wait. My collection of 4 lanterns has now turned into 10 along with a stove and 2 heaters. Hopefully you come out with some heater videos bc I could use some help with those. They just smell pretty bad when lit from the old fuel.
Excellent tutorial, so glad to find you after sifting thru hoards of vids with not so good info, thanks to you and your camera woman (wife) for a professional job.
I know videos take a while to do - not only restoring a lamp, but recording it doubles the time. Editing it takes even more time - maybe the most - then you have to upload it and review. I appreciate all the time you spend to educate us. I have 9 lamps and 8 stoves. 1,2, and 3 burner stoves. Have you or can you do a restore of one of a stove?
Yes sir I am all over it. I will be making videos in December rebuilding single burners 500 and 502, and 2/3 burners 425B and 426. I've been so busy preparing for winter that I haven't had any time to get into the shop.
Although they run on Kerosene, the British Vapalux lamps have a good pressure release like the Petromax. A small release screw in the middle or the side of the cap. Very safe.
This is great information. I just picked up a "diamond in the rough" 426D stove. I'm not having much luck finding a manufacturer date, but judging by the the fuel cap it must be 65-70.
Great video, saved me from being sprayed with gasoline from an old 425B stove. The tank is red and has the cap with the side hole and was gummed up. Had to use pliers to remove...the vent hole DID work & sprayed some gas. Followed your advice and had it pointed up & away.
Good video. I’d seen it before but I still shot fuel all over the place when I dug my one of my 413E’s out of the shed. I see on your site that the stove was made between 54 and 61 but can you say when they went from gold to red painted fuel tanks? Just curious as I have one of each.
Would it be possible to drill a hole in one of those caps install a fitting plumbed to the low pressure side of a bbq regulator and run the lantern on propane. Possible or death wish what are your thought on this .? Sarge348
Frank, just want to echo how much we appreciate your professionalism, expertise and willingness to help. Not sure where I should ask this question so I’ll try it here: I have a lantern that was given to me but don’t know the model number. I “think” it’s a 228?? The fount is nickel plated with a 0 2 as the date, the large ceramic green ventilator hat, two mantles and the generator is slanted with the valve wheel at about a 45 degree angle. The fuel cap is the dangerous one-pressure relief hole in the side of the cap. I assume the globe is not original because it’s one piece and doesn’t have slide access opening. I don’t know if the date means Feb 1920, or Feb 1930 or Feb 1940. Any ideas? I want to order parts to, refurbish and use it after watching your disassembly, cleaning and assembly videos. Thanks for reading.
Jim that is a nice lantern. You are describing an L228 lantern, commonly referred to as a "slant 228" and is the first 228. Yours would have been made in February of 1930. They are a bit different than "standard" 228s of later years but are just beautiful. Contact me at info@oldtowncoleman.com if you have problems.
I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about the fuel caps that incorporate a pressure guage, and, the fuel caps modified with a schrader valve.
Mitch, hello sir. I have a cap that has a pressure gauge and I have not used it in 15 years. I don't really care how much pressure is inside the tank or fount--I do care that the lantern or stove is running properly so "sufficient" pressure is good enough for me. A gauge on a multi-appliance system, like the old hollow-wire light fixtures, would be useful, but I just can't see the point with a single lantern or stove. As far as the tire valve goes, I personally don't mind using the pump the way Coleman installed it so I haven't used one of those caps. Its kinda like using clip-on mantles or propane lanterns...not my cup of tea as "old school" is what I prefer.
Michael they are sized for candlepower. 20s are small, 21s are for "normal" lanterns like 200A and 220s and such. Use 11 on high output lanterns like the 237.
I just got a 500 stove and the fuel cap is stuck on. It’s one of the nickel plated stoves. Any tips on how to get the cap to release? Anything I can spray on there to help it out?
I’m replacing the fill cap gaskets with new gaskets on my Model 425B Stove, a Model 200A Lantern and a Model 220F Lantern. Each has a 3 piece cap, but the interior portion of the caps did not stay on the fount after I removed the top screw and then removed the main cap (the interior portion stayed within the main cap). How I can remove the interior portion of the cap, so that I can then burn out the old gasket and insert the new gasket? Would it hurt anything if I burned out the old gaskets, while the interior portion of the cap is still within the main cap?
Muy buen dia ,me podrias ayudar con un vidrio de repuesto para una Coleman ,canadiense 236 es del 1 del 54 ,aquie en mi pais no la encuentro ,saludos fraternos desde Ambato Ecuador
What size gaskets work for the single piece (post 1970s) caps? I've purchased the cap gasket 220 from old Coleman parts and the no. 2 fuel cap seals from Basnets and both are too small
The gasket you purchased is for the 3-piece fuel filler cap; oldcolemanparts.com does have the gasket for 1-piece caps, www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=2732&cat=&page=1 Good luck!
We have a Coleman 220h one of the burner screens is missing. Our burner cap is frozen on the stem and we can’t get it off. We have penetrating oil on it over night, it’s no better and it’s still sitting. Would be able to give some advice on how to remove this cap? Thank you
They sure can be a bear to get off. I'd recommend starting with a plastic wrench as Silkworm describes. If that doesn't work, use a torch to heat the burner tube/burner cap junction and then try to remove it. It may be necessary to replace the entire piece--that is, a new burner tube with a burner cap & screen.
Sir no, I don't work on other folk's appliances any longer, but Coleman does. You can send them in and for $55 they will rebuild for you. The information can be found on my website under rebuilding.
um i think i caught a flub toward the end. you said, " fire and flame a few inches apart, what could go wrong?" Shouldn't it be "Fire and Fuel a few inches apart, what could go wrong?"😋
I can't believe I waited until now to search for Coleman lantern repair/restore. I have been dumb-assing this for a long time. Thank you for your help. I can work this out.
Also I subscribed. You seem very credible and watchable to me.
Both my lanterns now have the slotted caps. One stove still has the cap with only a hole but I shall be careful and replace it next order. Great video, I have watched it twice now.
Thank you Frank. I will take heed on your advise. I own a 1964 411 stove with the infamous cap.
Hey, don't forget to change Doggie's water in bowl!
Who would a that watching a video on filler caps could be so interestin ?
Thanks Frank
I recently found a model 500 stove I want to restore, this channel is perfect. Subbed!
Monkey Wash I have a couple of 500 stoves that I'll be using for the single-burner stove video, coming in December.
very helpful! Thank you. I bought an old lantern years ago and I could see the gasket was worn in the fuel cap. I replaced the cap with a new Colman cap just by instinct. Good to know my instincts were good.
Awesome safety stuff and thank you for such a great video!!
I’ve probably watched ten of your videos today. Every time, I think how much I love that intro grin sitting next to the lamp. Like Burt Reynolds in Smokey and the bandit.
I just received my parts from your web site. Now that I have watched your video I will be able to replace the gasket in the filler cap on my 502 stove. Thank you for your help,
Dale Searcy
Roy Utah.
This is great helpful information and channel. Thank you!
I was unaware of all these details. Thank you for sharing this safety information! No small thing...
And again, everything is so well done! I've had much fun learning and look forward to more!
Thank you Daniel!
You make great videos. Easy to follow and very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. Shout out to your wife for her skills with the camera. She zooms in at the right times and ensures we see everything we need to. You make a great team. Once again, thx and cheers from Canada!
Well thank you, and Melinda says the same. Very nice of you.
Hello sir. Sure nice to meet you. I'm gonna go ahead and unpack my bags here since I just subscribed I recon I'll stay the weekend. Maybe longer. Dont mind me lol
Absolutely great information! You are saving me much time, effort and money!
Great tutorial mate,thanks very much for sharing. A good insight to what can happen..b4 it happens.
Lets face it sh@$ happens!! Great work on the strengths and weakness of each different cap and pressurised example. I am new to this Colemania stove flu virus,but i got it bad..(not complaining,never felt better!!) So your presentation in safety was invaluable. Really appreciate you sharing your experience with these stoves.Great video as per usual,for a newbie like me.
Thanks again
Murray Howe
Sydney
Australia.
Always great info! Thank You.
Another great tutorial by Frank
Frank, you're a saint. Thank you so much for your well explained and very informative videos. I'm new to lantern collecting and have now rebuilt 4 different lanterns based on your tutorials. They were all a bit crusty and it's amazing how a little work can bring new life to them. Please keep making videos my friend!
Sir thank you for the very kind comments--they are appreciated. More videos coming in December!
@@OldTownColeman Awesome! Can't wait. My collection of 4 lanterns has now turned into 10 along with a stove and 2 heaters. Hopefully you come out with some heater videos bc I could use some help with those. They just smell pretty bad when lit from the old fuel.
Excellent tutorial, so glad to find you after sifting thru hoards of vids with not so good info, thanks to you and your camera woman (wife) for a professional job.
Thank you, we appreciate that!
Thank you now to go check the lamps and stove caps I have. Ranging from 1952 to 1995.
Thank you--safety is a great thing!
Great video.....Thanks.
I know videos take a while to do - not only restoring a lamp, but recording it doubles the time. Editing it takes even more time - maybe the most - then you have to upload it and review. I appreciate all the time you spend to educate us. I have 9 lamps and 8 stoves. 1,2, and 3 burner stoves. Have you or can you do a restore of one of a stove?
Yes sir I am all over it. I will be making videos in December rebuilding single burners 500 and 502, and 2/3 burners 425B and 426. I've been so busy preparing for winter that I haven't had any time to get into the shop.
Fabulous demonstrations! I guess I’ll be ordering new fuel filler caps.
Although they run on Kerosene, the British Vapalux lamps have a good pressure release like the Petromax. A small release screw in the middle or the side of the cap. Very safe.
This is great information. I just picked up a "diamond in the rough" 426D stove. I'm not having much luck finding a manufacturer date, but judging by the the fuel cap it must be 65-70.
THANKS ! TAKE CARE..
Great video, saved me from being sprayed with gasoline from an old 425B stove.
The tank is red and has the cap with the side hole and was gummed up. Had to use pliers to remove...the vent hole DID work & sprayed some gas. Followed your advice and had it pointed up & away.
Awesome. I've been sprayed a few times and it is just nasty. Especially when the fuel has been in there for many years--it is really ripe then.
Good video. I’d seen it before but I still shot fuel all over the place when I dug my one of my 413E’s out of the shed. I see on your site that the stove was made between 54 and 61 but can you say when they went from gold to red painted fuel tanks? Just curious as I have one of each.
great info ty
Thank you. Excellent information.
Thank you very much!
Would it be possible to drill a hole in one of those caps install a fitting plumbed to the low pressure side of a bbq regulator and run the lantern on propane. Possible or death wish what are your thought on this .? Sarge348
Just found your channel! Thank you for what you do! I love vintage Coleman! I subscribed and will be buying you coffee! Thank you!
Great info and instruction, especially the viton comment.
Great Video!!
Frank, just want to echo how much we appreciate your professionalism, expertise and willingness to help. Not sure where I should ask this question so I’ll try it here: I have a lantern that was given to me but don’t know the model number. I “think” it’s a 228?? The fount is nickel plated with a 0 2 as the date, the large ceramic green ventilator hat, two mantles and the generator is slanted with the valve wheel at about a 45 degree angle. The fuel cap is the dangerous one-pressure relief hole in the side of the cap. I assume the globe is not original because it’s one piece and doesn’t have slide access opening. I don’t know if the date means Feb 1920, or Feb 1930 or Feb 1940. Any ideas? I want to order parts to, refurbish and use it after watching your disassembly, cleaning and assembly videos. Thanks for reading.
Jim that is a nice lantern. You are describing an L228 lantern, commonly referred to as a "slant 228" and is the first 228. Yours would have been made in February of 1930. They are a bit different than "standard" 228s of later years but are just beautiful. Contact me at info@oldtowncoleman.com if you have problems.
The caps without an insert Does the gasket get burned out the same way?
I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about the fuel caps that incorporate a pressure guage, and, the fuel caps modified with a schrader valve.
Mitch, hello sir. I have a cap that has a pressure gauge and I have not used it in 15 years. I don't really care how much pressure is inside the tank or fount--I do care that the lantern or stove is running properly so "sufficient" pressure is good enough for me. A gauge on a multi-appliance system, like the old hollow-wire light fixtures, would be useful, but I just can't see the point with a single lantern or stove. As far as the tire valve goes, I personally don't mind using the pump the way Coleman installed it so I haven't used one of those caps. Its kinda like using clip-on mantles or propane lanterns...not my cup of tea as "old school" is what I prefer.
Will a fuel tank from a 2 burner stove work on a 3 burner stove?
Thx for the info - GREAT JOB !!! Can you explain the diff in the 11-20-21 mantles ??
Michael they are sized for candlepower. 20s are small, 21s are for "normal" lanterns like 200A and 220s and such. Use 11 on high output lanterns like the 237.
Oh my! Im not going to sleep now knowing all the danger out there.
I just got a 500 stove and the fuel cap is stuck on. It’s one of the nickel plated stoves. Any tips on how to get the cap to release? Anything I can spray on there to help it out?
oldtowncoleman@gmail.com please!
I’m replacing the fill cap gaskets with new gaskets on my Model 425B Stove, a Model 200A Lantern and a Model 220F Lantern. Each has a 3 piece cap, but the interior portion of the caps did not stay on the fount after I removed the top screw and then removed the main cap (the interior portion stayed within the main cap). How I can remove the interior portion of the cap, so that I can then burn out the old gasket and insert the new gasket? Would it hurt anything if I burned out the old gaskets, while the interior portion of the cap is still within the main cap?
You can try putting the screw back in part way and then lightly tapping on the screw head. That should knock it out of there.
Great info thank you
muy buen trabajo
Thank you!
hey. I have a may 1931 lantern. no idea what model it is. bit hat type. could I send you some pics and maybe you have an idea about this lantern?
send to info@oldcolemanparts.com
Muy buen dia ,me podrias ayudar con un vidrio de repuesto para una Coleman ,canadiense 236 es del 1 del 54 ,aquie en mi pais no la encuentro ,saludos fraternos desde Ambato Ecuador
You need #R690A0581: www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=658&cat=&page=1
What size gaskets work for the single piece (post 1970s) caps? I've purchased the cap gasket 220 from old Coleman parts and the no. 2 fuel cap seals from Basnets and both are too small
The gasket you purchased is for the 3-piece fuel filler cap; oldcolemanparts.com does have the gasket for 1-piece caps, www.oldcolemanparts.com/product.php?productid=2732&cat=&page=1
Good luck!
We have a Coleman 220h one of the burner screens is missing. Our burner cap is frozen on the stem and we can’t get it off. We have penetrating oil on it over night, it’s no better and it’s still sitting. Would be able to give some advice on how to remove this cap? Thank you
I use plastic adjustable wrench to not mar the brass with very light pressure so as no to bend it while turning
They sure can be a bear to get off. I'd recommend starting with a plastic wrench as Silkworm describes. If that doesn't work, use a torch to heat the burner tube/burner cap junction and then try to remove it. It may be necessary to replace the entire piece--that is, a new burner tube with a burner cap & screen.
I think he misspoke about a 242BX? Never heard of that model. Maybe he meant a 220BX? 3:57
How do you find the model no? on a Coleman lantern?
William it will be on the small band under the frame and globe.
@@OldTownColeman Thank you.
Can i send you the 3 lanterns i have to fix for me? i can not do it. (arthritis in my hands)
Sir no, I don't work on other folk's appliances any longer, but Coleman does. You can send them in and for $55 they will rebuild for you. The information can be found on my website under rebuilding.
@@OldTownColeman thank u i found thier website. im not a Sir thoe,,,,,, its mam,,,:}
any idwas about a 220F that lights but snuffs itself out? generator is good. air tubes clear...
DD please email me at info@oldtowncoleman.com so we can discuss and figure out.
Don't ever open the filler cap until everything is cooled off
um i think i caught a flub toward the end. you said, " fire and flame a few inches apart, what could go wrong?" Shouldn't it be "Fire and Fuel a few inches apart, what could go wrong?"😋
Those caps are great for kerosene lamps though.