Living in a remote part of the Northern Rockies, we keep a few Coleman gas and kerosene lanterns on hand, along with plenty of fuel and spare parts. I recently purchased a 1980’s vintage lantern that was in new condition, but totally inoperable. Following your excellent tutorials, I had it operating in no time.
Is it a 288a700? I got one a few weeks back, same thing. Beautiful exterior, melted plastic internals. Learned how to completely disassemble a Coleman lantern, so I guess it evened out.
Coleman headquarters is located in Wichita Kansas, as it has been for 100 years or so. All coleman products have a lifetime warrenty. You can send any coleman lantern or stove to Wichita and they will restore it to working condition. I highly recomend this. Ive had a few things repaired and its worth it. It cost about $55 per order that includes return shipping.
@@BFD378 one of the recent lanterns i found was a 288A. I paid $15 for it and it looks brand new. It came in a plastic carry case. The date on the bottom is 1989, tho it looks much newer.
You're a fine man Frank. After watching your videos I've bought a 285 for about 30 bucks and it's in great condition and works very well. I'm very pleased with my investment.
Sir, people like your restore my faith in humanity. I am obviously a little bit biased - love camping myself and big fan of perfectly engineered camp gear, but your dedication is inspiring. Big thanks from other side of the northern boarder.
I wanted to thank you a lot for all the knowledge you're sharing with everyone. I know that part of it is "business", but still, you have a VERY good business and not only you know your stuff, but you're also marketing wise. This is the perfect business model that you have. And because of that, we're ALL winners. I'm from Canada and just got a Coleman 200A, and will restore it soon. Ordering parts from you might be very costly (exchange rate, shipping, and customs). BUT, if the price ain't too much, then I'll pay the extra few $ no problem. You deserve that Frank!
I have very fond memories of camping as a young child taking our 425 stove (later replaced with a 431) and our 335 lantern. I always loved to get to be the one to light them or pump them up and my father was always more than happy to let me do the work. We used to camp in an old army surplus canvas tent that weighed a tonne and was such a pain to put up. Would leak like a sieve when it rained and it always smelled of dirt and mould. The lantern would keep it nice and warm though and would dry it out in no time. So much effort but I truly do miss those days.
Memories like that can make a bad day turn around for you. I was forced, against my will, to use those damn canvas tents and know exactly what you mean. Forced by the USMC... Great post.
I found out by accident that Coleman lanterns can burn a long time. I lit a 220E that is my fathers on my back porch. After about an hour we went inside with the intentions to come back out but we didn't and forgot it was still lit. Got up the next morning and went to town to see a friend and hangout till about noon. Got home and walked around back and it was still going strong at about 18 hours. I was shocked or maybe I should say impressed !
Happy Father's Day, Frank. It's Sunday June 19th and 84 degrees in San Diego's East County. SHELL regulator gas is $7.00 a gallon. A loaf of bread has reached $4.99 a loaf. My '02 Chevy Suburban has just turned over 370,000 miles. We just watched this enlightening comparison video and I have to say it was the most satisfying and gratifying time lapse storytelling we have witnessed in a very long time. The little dog "spotting " the lawn and later being worried by a yellow jacket. The Coleman Stories are something I am looking forward to contributing, soon I hope. Your video was the high point of recent weeks for us. Thank you for posting.
I have 5 Coleman lanterns and 4 different stoves 5 different heaters , they all work and I am gettting more whenever i get the chance. My Dad took us 6 boys and mom on an epic road trip to the Yukon from Niagara in 1968 and we used Coleman stoves and lantern all the way .
Frank, awesome video and I really enjoyed the stories! Thank you again for providing such a wonderful resource (your web site). I really look forward to watching more of your videos so please keep them coming.
It was 40 or more years ago that a college buddy gave me a 242 lantern from 1949, a 200A lantern from 1969, and a 413E stove with no date code that I can find. Over the years I've used them on sporadic hunting and camping trips - they of course still worked - and in the late 90s I acquired a propane lantern and stove that were a bit safer to operate in the local tinderbox forests. Fast forward to just before the pandemic when I discovered your videos. Thanks to your giving me a heads up that Coleman will in fact repair ancient stoves and lanterns, I had them replace the check valve in my 242. They also removed all the old corrosion from the tank's exterior. It came back better looking that I had ever seen it! Your videos also encouraged me to figure perform minor repairs on my other equipment, and of course I added a couple of extra 220 dual mantle liquid fuel lanterns purchased from eBay, as well as a propane stove from Amazon, and a couple of extra propane lanterns from the local Big 5 sporting goods store to have on hand for when our SoCal power grid craps out... which it has. I've always been able to supply my wife with morning coffee in one of the power outages, courtesy my 413E stove and Farberware percolator. Thanks for all you're doing! I love your videos and your website!
I bought a milspec about a year ago was to far gone sent it to Coleman see what they said and got back what I already figured it sat outside in lovely Indiana weather to long they couldn’t do anything to it been looking for another lantern locally and today found a 288 born 4-85 in perfect condition looks like someone bought it looked at it and put in in the house and forgot about it no rust what so ever and only paid $26
Just discovered Coleman stuff and now your channel. Just ordered my first stove from ebay and now I want a lantern! Thanks for inspiring me and for sharing your vast body of knowledge with the world
Granted a year later i have a few colman stoves and lanterns and i bought all of them for 20 or less. Finally got the duel fuel stove and lantern for 20 bucks total. Great content and keep up the good work.
I knew my 200A would burn all night from reading in my camp bed under the light and falling asleep a few times. Dawn came and I would turn off the dimmer lamp ( from reduced tank pressure ) to cool down for refilling after starting the coffee pot on my 425E. Summer dark only lasts about 9 hours in NM & AZ. I never let newbies to Colemans operate my equipment until I am sure they know the difference of how the knobs and "bent wire" control work. Plus not torquing the needle valves when the flames don't immediately go out like the propane versions do. It was expensive replacing valves with cracked seats from clowns over tightening and now it isn't replaceable due to Coleman not selling the valves anymore. E-bay is iffy even with NOS claimed parts.
Love your story. Love your website. I’ve emailed you a few questions and you’ve always got back to me immediately. Thanks for all you do. My dad always used lanterns and stoves when I was growing up. Spent many nights on the riverbank bathed in the light of a Coleman lantern, and ate many meals cooked on a stove. I’ve always felt that gas was far superior to propane. I’ve always loved doing the cleaning and repair of these appliances. I feel they are a true testament to American engineering and quality. There is no reason they can’t run forever. And Stanley planes are my second love behind my lanterns and stoves.
I bought a coleman lantern 220-H three years ago ,it was mostly needing a cleaning, when put fuel an pumped it up it lit up dimly,I checked everything I knew at that time but was very curious why it wouldn’t go bright after the generator was heated.After doing more inspection i realized the burner had a piece of metal or what is called slag loosely lodged in the tube,i was able to drill it out in smaller pieces,after that the lantern burned very bright,it must have gotten lodged their during manufacturing ,it almost stumped me completely because I heard of spiders an other things plugging up air tubes but this was a defect from the factory!
2:22 I spot the lab. ♥ I can see why you got into collecting these lanterns. I just found one in my garage. Pulled it out of the box as if I unearthed a treasure, which I did. These are nice to look at even if someone doesn't use the lantern. Old school things that last and last! 8:05 Your brother nearly killed everyone on the boat. Remind him of this always, lol. 11:44 oh nooo! You must avenge your dog by taking out all of the yellow jackets!
Nice video, good storys. I just got my first coleman liquid fuel lanterns a few days ago. I got interested when I was cleaning out a old rental house and found a coleman stove. One thing led to another, now I have 5 lanterns, 2 stoves, and one heater. Its fun. Can't wait to overhaul them and get them running well.
I grew up not very far from Wichita, and i remember everything camping was Coleman. I remember going to the headquarters store in old brick town Wichita when i was a kids many decades ago. What i remember was all the Coleman camping gear was mostly cheap junk, with the exception of the liquid fuel lanterns and stoves. Those were the best quality and they worked well and lasted a lifetime. The meuseum in Wichita is worth stopping for.
Frank, Thank you for all of your videos and technical help that you provide. I also remember my family cooking on Coleman stoves and using lanterns for camping and picnics when I was a child in the mid 1970s. My father and I also used Coleman backpacking stoves (the brown 400 model) when we went to the Philmont Scout Camp in the mid 1980s when I was a teenager. The smell of a Coleman stove or lantern burning brings back many old memories for me! I will have to write up my story for you to put on your website.
My dad always had a brand new can of fuel on our trips so that odd what i do but now i see i only need to fill my lantern before my 3 day trip. Thanks for your site!
i have a 1970's coleman lantern but have never used it my coleman stove however ive used a lot and at one point for about 3 years was my only way of cooking my neighbor found it a dumpster where our other neighbor had thrown it away so i got my 1963 426 e model stove for 20 bucks even still had good coleman fuel in the tank that stove will never leave my possesion
If someone wants to correct me on whether this trick is OK, please do. Years ago I lived on a farm without electricity, we used Coleman lanterns a lot, often in the evening when we didn't need so much light (usually when we were out of kerosine for the Aladdins) I would use the jet cleaner ( I know that's the wrong term) as a dimmer to bring the glow down to a softer light, it also reduced the noise. I did that for years with no apparent damage to the lanterns. I would have to turn it more often as the smaller orifice would become clogged quicker, creating a smaller opening for the fuel to go through. I don't recall seeing anyone on TY talk about doing that.
I absolutely love all your videos, sir! Keep 'em coming!!! White gas is around $13.00 in Vermont these days, but still my go to for camping and cook outs. I have stories, as many do , about two lanterns and a three burner stove.
Welcome back Frank, it is good to see you. Hope you and your family are well. Coleman products are an addiction, we need to admit that. In my country we don't have coleman products so I built my collection from my holiday trips abroad and online shopping when I find a good shipping deals. Keep up the good work my friend.
Old school is cool. There always a lot of intrigue and mystery around the cool Coleman lanterns with the ritual of starting them up. I want to get a kerosene version because of the added start up procedure. Seems old-school high-tech, more real physics at work.
Awesome, I too had been guessing run times thanks for this test. Glad to see you back. I copied all your rebuild pages way back in the early 2000s, and your site was the inspiration to start me collecting. I too had a hiatus, and recently got back into it. Rediscovering all those lanterns and parts I stored away that need attention. Hope you get a museum back up.
Hardrock miner... Not many people understand what that entails. I worked with many a Silver Valley miner, over the years. Some of the best jackleg miners around. Big Respect to your old man!
Jack that is awesome. As a kid, it was Dave Smith Chevrolet and Cadillac but was just a small dealership, not a world famous one. I was sure exposed to a lot of mining stuff as a young boy and dad taught me about jacklegs and buzzies and such. Fond memories of the ore cars and his dump truck and trips to the assayer's office. The Sunshine Mine took him away from me in 1972 when I was only 11 so I hold a very large place in my heart for those that work underground and always will. Elko...do you know a Joe Gray down there?
@@OldTownColeman Oh shit! Your Dad was one the miners lost in the disaster? I am sorry to hear that. I knew quite a few hands, who lost loved ones in that fire. The Sunshine Mine Disaster is probably responsible for more modern safety policies, than any other event. As for a Joe Gray, I do not know him. If he's a miner, here, then that would explain why. I quit mining 10 years ago. I only worked in the Elko gold mines, for 5 years. I did my "time" and went back to Tramp Mining. Now if he's a Coleman collector friend, that would definitely make sense. I know I have one guy, in the area, who I'm competing with for estate and yard sale finds😄
Love the sounds of the Coleman lanterns......childhood memories.....Lake Pend Oreille is deep as you know......may need a submarine to find that old stove!
Great video! The lamps may have lasted about 10 hours or so, but how many times did you pump them up during the test? I remember from camping years ago, the fuel would last through the night, but the lamps would be pretty dim in the morning from loss of press pressure; they were fully pressurized when lit.
Great video I just inherited two Coleman products a 426d stove an a cl2 lantern an looking forward to bringing back to life from your website an take them on my next trip
I love all your videos. I used to live like this with my grandparents ,we had some regular coil oil lamps and quite a few Coleman lamps ,I wish I had kept some but now every time I see one at the thrift store or a sale if its reasonable I will I buy it ,I love them I am up to 5 and 2 propane ones and two battery Colemans with remote light just because . Many sometimes just light them and shut off the electric lights for atmosphere .I have a few propane with igniters built in .love them . A couple will need some lovin ,I love fixin stuff anyhow ,and thanks to your very complete videos i am sure to feel more positive of the outcome .Much thanks for your contributions .And PS I remember your advice when lighting for the first times be outside and be aware in case things don't go as planned ,and be by a bucket .( preferably one full of water)😁
Yeah I’ve been collecting Colemen products for quite a while now I still have my dad‘s Coleman stove and his lantern from the 60s I can remember going camping and using those products I have now I think six or seven Coleman lanterns that I’ve rebuilt three Coleman stove . I’ve just recently picked up another lantern it’s not in bad shape but it needs some tender loving care love your UA-cam channel and all your information would like to know more about the Colemen thing coming up in Texas. 👍🤠🇺🇸🙏🏻
I got into collecting from my dad he's always fix them up and keep them at the time he worked for coleman here in Wichita KS. Has maintenance guy there and time to time he get a new lantern. I alway seen how happy it made him and some how I started with flash lights and move to lantern a few years ago and I have 4 colemans and one petromax. I always keep an eye on the Facebook market and find them time to time for 10$-40$ my gf is probably tried of them by now 😅 but she go's with me to pick them up. But I alway light them up once a month just can't help myself
I did not pressurize them for the first 3 hours because the founts were very hot and obviously they were keeping themselves pressurized with the heat. After that, I pumped them up every hour, +/-.
I noticed my new 285a not only has plastic pump cup but I guess they have a special check valve and you can only pump it so much and it literally stops you. About 35 pumps. Also, it says you bet about 5.5 hours off full tank now and only 700 lumens. So something doesn't make sense. Uses more fuel and less bright. Older 285 is 861 lumens. I'm not understanding and Coleman didn't have an answer either. I will say it did come with the older style pump cap retainer with the steel cap and the D retaining pin thing.
How many times have you pumped air? I only have four lanterns. I have 8 stoves, three heaters and three partial tins of fuel. I was born in CDA but now live near Minneapolis.
I'd like to see you do a Which One Last Longer, the old pump it up Coleman vs the new Propane Lantern, or just see how long the newer lanterns last. I think that was a big mistake on Coleman's part to go with the disposable tanks.
John I agree with you. I can do a test with them but it would be purely a financial one. Plastic lanterns have no value to me nor do I think they will last 100 years so the longevity issue does not apply. But what would be the cost of light using propane canisters? I don't know. But an interesting question.
OK, call me stupid, but: What is the logic or physics that enables a two-mantle lantern to burn as long as a single? If the "tanks" are a different sizs, what is the amount of difference?
New follower. In the process of restoring a 1968 220F. It was 100% when I found it but has been sitting a long time. Replacing the generator, leather pump puck and rebuilding the valve. I bought some graphite seals from ya. There is some corrosion in the tank as witnessed at the fuel tank neck. So im researching best methods to clean it out. Any suggestions from an expert appreciated.
@@OldTownColeman the reason I asked was last time I did this , the next day the heater bowl was full of kero and kero had run out and formed a puddle on the ground when it went out. Great videos btw. Thank you.
Hi Frank, I came across your video, when seeking info on repairing check valve on my first Coleman stove I had just picked up at a yard sale. Days later I saw a lantern that I just couldn't let go. I picked up some mantles and got it going. I do have a question? how long dose a mantle last and what is the biggest reason for them failing? By the way great video really enjoy your added perspective on how they work.
Sorry to barge in here but the mantles last a good while ,just remember they are like a ash and you dont want to bump them just be careful when lighting the lamp .I never touch the mantle. I have one ive used for about a year and the mantle is still ok .
At the end of the trip when collecting the lamp after it has cooled to put away, lightly spray the mantles with hairspray, It will give them extra strength when getting bounced around a bit and may still be good enough to use next time.
Hay Frank . where have you been ?? You can't stay away as long as you have been. Tell me how to get in. Touch. And do you sell any parts ?? How did the test you did about 3 months ago or so go ?? Don't stay away as long any more thank you Frank from montana..PS. You still look like George Harrison . during. The white album period. ( 1968 )......
The coleman stories that seem to be the most heart felt often start with "When I was growing up, my dad..." I have to agree with the sentiment.
Living in a remote part of the Northern Rockies, we keep a few Coleman gas and kerosene lanterns on hand, along with plenty of fuel and spare parts. I recently purchased a 1980’s vintage lantern that was in new condition, but totally inoperable. Following your excellent tutorials, I had it operating in no time.
Is it a 288a700? I got one a few weeks back, same thing. Beautiful exterior, melted plastic internals. Learned how to completely disassemble a Coleman lantern, so I guess it evened out.
Coleman headquarters is located in Wichita Kansas, as it has been for 100 years or so. All coleman products have a lifetime warrenty. You can send any coleman lantern or stove to Wichita and they will restore it to working condition. I highly recomend this. Ive had a few things repaired and its worth it. It cost about $55 per order that includes return shipping.
@@BFD378 one of the recent lanterns i found was a 288A. I paid $15 for it and it looks brand new. It came in a plastic carry case. The date on the bottom is 1989, tho it looks much newer.
Have you looked into the Coleman catalytic heaters?
You're a fine man Frank. After watching your videos I've bought a 285 for about 30 bucks and it's in great condition and works very well. I'm very pleased with my investment.
Sir, people like your restore my faith in humanity. I am obviously a little bit biased - love camping myself and big fan of perfectly engineered camp gear, but your dedication is inspiring. Big thanks from other side of the northern boarder.
I only have 4, and o love them. Anything oil and gas it's just like magic
I wanted to thank you a lot for all the knowledge you're sharing with everyone. I know that part of it is "business", but still, you have a VERY good business and not only you know your stuff, but you're also marketing wise. This is the perfect business model that you have. And because of that, we're ALL winners. I'm from Canada and just got a Coleman 200A, and will restore it soon. Ordering parts from you might be very costly (exchange rate, shipping, and customs). BUT, if the price ain't too much, then I'll pay the extra few $ no problem. You deserve that Frank!
I have very fond memories of camping as a young child taking our 425 stove (later replaced with a 431) and our 335 lantern. I always loved to get to be the one to light them or pump them up and my father was always more than happy to let me do the work. We used to camp in an old army surplus canvas tent that weighed a tonne and was such a pain to put up. Would leak like a sieve when it rained and it always smelled of dirt and mould. The lantern would keep it nice and warm though and would dry it out in no time. So much effort but I truly do miss those days.
Memories like that can make a bad day turn around for you. I was forced, against my will, to use those damn canvas tents and know exactly what you mean. Forced by the USMC... Great post.
I found out by accident that Coleman lanterns can burn a long time. I lit a 220E that is my fathers on my back porch. After about an hour we went inside with the intentions to come back out but we didn't and forgot it was still lit. Got up the next morning and went to town to see a friend and hangout till about noon. Got home and walked around back and it was still going strong at about 18 hours. I was shocked or maybe I should say impressed !
Happy Father's Day, Frank. It's Sunday June 19th and 84 degrees in San Diego's East County. SHELL regulator gas is $7.00 a gallon. A loaf of bread has reached $4.99 a loaf. My '02 Chevy Suburban has just turned over 370,000 miles.
We just watched this enlightening comparison video and I have to say it was the most satisfying and gratifying time lapse storytelling we have witnessed in a very long time. The little dog "spotting " the lawn and later being worried by a yellow jacket. The Coleman Stories are something I am looking forward to contributing, soon I hope. Your video was the high point of recent weeks for us. Thank you for posting.
The box from this 639C Series says "up to 8.5 hrs." 🖖🤠👍
I have 5 Coleman lanterns and 4 different stoves 5 different heaters , they all work and I am gettting more whenever i get the chance.
My Dad took us 6 boys and mom on an epic road trip to the Yukon from Niagara in 1968 and we used Coleman stoves and lantern all the way .
What an awesome trip...wow!
Frank, awesome video and I really enjoyed the stories! Thank you again for providing such a wonderful resource (your web site). I really look forward to watching more of your videos so please keep them coming.
Thanks, Frank! I appreciate the stories.
Just rebuilt an old 228 big hat thanks to you! Thanks for the help!!!
No stories Frank, just the memories of the hiss and aroma of the Coleman lanterns while camping as a little kid.
How often did you need to add pressure to the tanks during this burn?
How long do they burn between pumping them up ,
It was 40 or more years ago that a college buddy gave me a 242 lantern from 1949, a 200A lantern from 1969, and a 413E stove with no date code that I can find. Over the years I've used them on sporadic hunting and camping trips - they of course still worked - and in the late 90s I acquired a propane lantern and stove that were a bit safer to operate in the local tinderbox forests. Fast forward to just before the pandemic when I discovered your videos. Thanks to your giving me a heads up that Coleman will in fact repair ancient stoves and lanterns, I had them replace the check valve in my 242. They also removed all the old corrosion from the tank's exterior. It came back better looking that I had ever seen it! Your videos also encouraged me to figure perform minor repairs on my other equipment, and of course I added a couple of extra 220 dual mantle liquid fuel lanterns purchased from eBay, as well as a propane stove from Amazon, and a couple of extra propane lanterns from the local Big 5 sporting goods store to have on hand for when our SoCal power grid craps out... which it has. I've always been able to supply my wife with morning coffee in one of the power outages, courtesy my 413E stove and Farberware percolator. Thanks for all you're doing! I love your videos and your website!
Another awesome story--glad I could help! Stay safe down there.
I bought a milspec about a year ago was to far gone sent it to Coleman see what they said and got back what I already figured it sat outside in lovely Indiana weather to long they couldn’t do anything to it been looking for another lantern locally and today found a 288 born 4-85 in perfect condition looks like someone bought it looked at it and put in in the house and forgot about it no rust what so ever and only paid $26
Do you have to pump it any during the test??
Love it!! Great story teller.. good job Frank
Just discovered Coleman stuff and now your channel. Just ordered my first stove from ebay and now I want a lantern! Thanks for inspiring me and for sharing your vast body of knowledge with the world
Granted a year later i have a few colman stoves and lanterns and i bought all of them for 20 or less. Finally got the duel fuel stove and lantern for 20 bucks total. Great content and keep up the good work.
I knew my 200A would burn all night from reading in my camp bed under the light and falling asleep a few times. Dawn came and I would turn off the dimmer lamp ( from reduced tank pressure ) to cool down for refilling after starting the coffee pot on my 425E. Summer dark only lasts about 9 hours in NM & AZ. I never let newbies to Colemans operate my equipment until I am sure they know the difference of how the knobs and "bent wire" control work. Plus not torquing the needle valves when the flames don't immediately go out like the propane versions do. It was expensive replacing valves with cracked seats from clowns over tightening and now it isn't replaceable due to Coleman not selling the valves anymore. E-bay is iffy even with NOS claimed parts.
Love your story. Love your website. I’ve emailed you a few questions and you’ve always got back to me immediately. Thanks for all you do. My dad always used lanterns and stoves when I was growing up. Spent many nights on the riverbank bathed in the light of a Coleman lantern, and ate many meals cooked on a stove. I’ve always felt that gas was far superior to propane. I’ve always loved doing the cleaning and repair of these appliances. I feel they are a true testament to American engineering and quality. There is no reason they can’t run forever. And Stanley planes are my second love behind my lanterns and stoves.
I bought a coleman lantern 220-H three years ago ,it was mostly needing a cleaning, when put fuel an pumped it up it lit up dimly,I checked everything I knew at that time but was very curious why it wouldn’t go bright after the generator was heated.After doing more inspection i realized the burner had a piece of metal or what is called slag loosely lodged in the tube,i was able to drill it out in smaller pieces,after that the lantern burned very bright,it must have gotten lodged their during manufacturing ,it almost stumped me completely because I heard of spiders an other things plugging up air tubes but this was a defect from the factory!
It seems like guns, tattoos, and Coleman lanterns, one is never enough!
And dont forget knives and flashlights 😅
2:22 I spot the lab. ♥
I can see why you got into collecting these lanterns. I just found one in my garage. Pulled it out of the box as if I unearthed a treasure, which I did. These are nice to look at even if someone doesn't use the lantern. Old school things that last and last!
8:05 Your brother nearly killed everyone on the boat. Remind him of this always, lol.
11:44 oh nooo! You must avenge your dog by taking out all of the yellow jackets!
Simply LOVED this clip... interesting and most entertaining. Love and light to you.
Great video, if you could give me a rough estimate of how much pumping was required per hour, or something to that matter. Thanks.
Nice video, good storys. I just got my first coleman liquid fuel lanterns a few days ago. I got interested when I was cleaning out a old rental house and found a coleman stove. One thing led to another, now I have 5 lanterns, 2 stoves, and one heater. Its fun. Can't wait to overhaul them and get them running well.
Awesome--best of luck with them!
I grew up not very far from Wichita, and i remember everything camping was Coleman. I remember going to the headquarters store in old brick town Wichita when i was a kids many decades ago. What i remember was all the Coleman camping gear was mostly cheap junk, with the exception of the liquid fuel lanterns and stoves. Those were the best quality and they worked well and lasted a lifetime. The meuseum in Wichita is worth stopping for.
Frank,
Thank you for all of your videos and technical help that you provide.
I also remember my family cooking on Coleman stoves and using lanterns for camping and picnics when I was a child in the mid 1970s.
My father and I also used Coleman backpacking stoves (the brown 400 model) when we went to the Philmont Scout Camp in the mid 1980s when I was a teenager.
The smell of a Coleman stove or lantern burning brings back many old memories for me!
I will have to write up my story for you to put on your website.
My dad always had a brand new can of fuel on our trips so that odd what i do but now i see i only need to fill my lantern before my 3 day trip. Thanks for your site!
Never seen a dog lose a battle with a bee before...
i have a 1970's coleman lantern but have never used it my coleman stove however ive used a lot and at one point for about 3 years was my only way of cooking my neighbor found it a dumpster where our other neighbor had thrown it away so i got my 1963 426 e model stove for 20 bucks even still had good coleman fuel in the tank
that stove will never leave my possesion
If someone wants to correct me on whether this trick is OK, please do.
Years ago I lived on a farm without electricity, we used Coleman lanterns a lot, often in the evening when we didn't need so much light (usually when we were out of kerosine for the Aladdins) I would use the jet cleaner ( I know that's the wrong term) as a dimmer to bring the glow down to a softer light, it also reduced the noise. I did that for years with no apparent damage to the lanterns. I would have to turn it more often as the smaller orifice would become clogged quicker, creating a smaller opening for the fuel to go through. I don't recall seeing anyone on TY talk about doing that.
I absolutely love all your videos, sir! Keep 'em coming!!! White gas is around $13.00 in Vermont these days, but still my go to for camping and cook outs. I have stories, as many do , about two lanterns and a three burner stove.
White gas is the way to go. Cleaner burning, and it will keep your equipment running longer. Its about $13 a gallon where i live in the southwest.
Just use ethanol free gas Just have to clean the thing more often
Welcome back Frank, it is good to see you. Hope you and your family are well. Coleman products are an addiction, we need to admit that. In my country we don't have coleman products so I built my collection from my holiday trips abroad and online shopping when I find a good shipping deals. Keep up the good work my friend.
Where are you?
@@OldTownColeman Saudi Arabia
Results of this test were interesting. That water feature in the background, wow.
That sound alone would make a great sleep video.
Great video, Frank! That 220E looks just like the one I have. I had no idea a lantern would burn that long. Thanks!
Imagine using one of these but with a red light filter? It would make a great field light for light discipline.
Old school is cool. There always a lot of intrigue and mystery around the cool Coleman lanterns with the ritual of starting them up. I want to get a kerosene version because of the added start up procedure. Seems old-school high-tech, more real physics at work.
Hope you had a good July 4th, I got a two tone Coleman stove set with depth charge tank and accessories, Christmas in July!
All Camps found without at least one Coleman Lantern are Officially recognized as a Severe Neglected Camp.
Awesome, I too had been guessing run times thanks for this test. Glad to see you back. I copied all your rebuild pages way back in the early 2000s, and your site was the inspiration to start me collecting. I too had a hiatus, and recently got back into it. Rediscovering all those lanterns and parts I stored away that need attention. Hope you get a museum back up.
Does Coleman still train people to repair stoves and lanterns? I have a small collection myself of lanterns and stoves
Hardrock miner... Not many people understand what that entails. I worked with many a Silver Valley miner, over the years. Some of the best jackleg miners around. Big Respect to your old man!
Jack are you in Kellogg?
@@OldTownColeman No. I'm in Elko, NV.
@@OldTownColeman But I have spent some time, up there, in Wallace and Mullen. Bought my truck at Dave Smith, that was my Kellogg experience 😉
Jack that is awesome. As a kid, it was Dave Smith Chevrolet and Cadillac but was just a small dealership, not a world famous one. I was sure exposed to a lot of mining stuff as a young boy and dad taught me about jacklegs and buzzies and such. Fond memories of the ore cars and his dump truck and trips to the assayer's office. The Sunshine Mine took him away from me in 1972 when I was only 11 so I hold a very large place in my heart for those that work underground and always will. Elko...do you know a Joe Gray down there?
@@OldTownColeman Oh shit! Your Dad was one the miners lost in the disaster? I am sorry to hear that. I knew quite a few hands, who lost loved ones in that fire. The Sunshine Mine Disaster is probably responsible for more modern safety policies, than any other event.
As for a Joe Gray, I do not know him. If he's a miner, here, then that would explain why. I quit mining 10 years ago. I only worked in the Elko gold mines, for 5 years. I did my "time" and went back to Tramp Mining. Now if he's a Coleman collector friend, that would definitely make sense. I know I have one guy, in the area, who I'm competing with for estate and yard sale finds😄
Awesome video!! The hardest part for me is me trying to take all my lanterns and stoves camping haha my limit is now 4 lanterns and 2 stoves
So true.. just need to go camping more often. Lol
Perhaps you should get a car roof carrier, or pull a cargo trailer? More is never a bad thing...
Love the sounds of the Coleman lanterns......childhood memories.....Lake Pend Oreille is deep as you know......may need a submarine to find that old stove!
Great video! The lamps may have lasted about 10 hours or so, but how many times did you pump them up during the test? I remember from camping years ago, the fuel would last through the night, but the lamps would be pretty dim in the morning from loss of press pressure; they were fully pressurized when lit.
Great video I just inherited two Coleman products a 426d stove an a cl2 lantern an looking forward to bringing back to life from your website an take them on my next trip
Such a cool story how you got started. Really enjoy your videos as well. I’m an OldTown Coleman customer, great company!!
Im thinking your knowledge will be very much needed, very soon!!!
I love all your videos. I used to live like this with my grandparents ,we had some regular coil oil lamps and quite a few Coleman lamps ,I wish I had kept some but now every time I see one at the thrift store or a sale if its reasonable I will I buy it ,I love them I am up to 5 and 2 propane ones and two battery Colemans with remote light just because . Many sometimes just light them and shut off the electric lights for atmosphere .I have a few propane with igniters built in .love them . A couple will need some lovin ,I love fixin stuff anyhow ,and thanks to your very complete videos i am sure to feel more positive of the outcome .Much thanks for your contributions .And PS I remember your advice when lighting for the first times be outside and be aware in case things don't go as planned ,and be by a bucket .( preferably one full of water)😁
will you have any new hoodies available in 2023? Thanks for all the great content
Working on it! Redoing our store and most of our designs.
Frank, thanks for these videos! Very imformative and your stories are nostalgic
My pleasure Leonardo, I'm glad you like them.
1,536 lanterns at one pop, WOW! Very informative videos, keep them coming.
instant collector---lol
That WAS pretty brave, wasn't it?
Yes, I had to swallow pretty hard at first but quickly got over it as I was too busy to think about it lol.
Yeah I’ve been collecting Colemen products for quite a while now I still have my dad‘s Coleman stove and his lantern from the 60s I can remember going camping and using those products I have now I think six or seven Coleman lanterns that I’ve rebuilt three Coleman stove . I’ve just recently picked up another lantern it’s not in bad shape but it needs some tender loving care love your UA-cam channel and all your information would like to know more about the Colemen thing coming up in Texas. 👍🤠🇺🇸🙏🏻
Another great story!! Here is the link to the Coleman club: intlccc.net/
So, the 1536 Project, glad you started! Great job!
Just subscribed, love the content! I just saved my 4th Coleman stove, a 425C. I’m hooked! Do you have a link to the Coleman t shirt?
I gotta have one!
Ah, so you started the $8 craze.....lol.
😂😆😂
Yeah I've heard others paid that price also. Worked for me!
Yes from the Coleman Collectors the 8 dollar price whenever ANYONE asks about value 😂
Bruh🤣
Are you adding pressure to them? I ask because I was told that they needed more pressure every 3 to 4 hours to keep burning bright.
im sure he checked for pressure
I did. The first couple of hours they did not require it because they were so hot. But then I re-pressurized them hourly.
I got into collecting from my dad he's always fix them up and keep them at the time he worked for coleman here in Wichita KS. Has maintenance guy there and time to time he get a new lantern. I alway seen how happy it made him and some how I started with flash lights and move to lantern a few years ago and I have 4 colemans and one petromax. I always keep an eye on the Facebook market and find them time to time for 10$-40$ my gf is probably tried of them by now 😅 but she go's with me to pick them up. But I alway light them up once a month just can't help myself
dropped a red one in the lake,in 1971...watched it go down,,.....dont drink and play on the lake!
2 pints on my 275a lasted 10.5 hours
Hello Frank! How many times did you have to re-pressurize the three lanterns within the 9 hrs and 49min? Thank you in advance!
I did not pressurize them for the first 3 hours because the founts were very hot and obviously they were keeping themselves pressurized with the heat. After that, I pumped them up every hour, +/-.
@@OldTownColeman thank you for your kind reply. I was just to ask the same question, luckily i went through comment first.
I'd love to know your process for new mantles. I.e. how long to burn in, do you burn before lighting, etc.
I noticed my new 285a not only has plastic pump cup but I guess they have a special check valve and you can only pump it so much and it literally stops you. About 35 pumps.
Also, it says you bet about 5.5 hours off full tank now and only 700 lumens. So something doesn't make sense. Uses more fuel and less bright. Older 285 is 861 lumens.
I'm not understanding and Coleman didn't have an answer either.
I will say it did come with the older style pump cap retainer with the steel cap and the D retaining pin thing.
Are you still running tests?
How many times have you pumped air?
I only have four lanterns. I have 8 stoves, three heaters and three partial tins of fuel.
I was born in CDA but now live near Minneapolis.
Thanks Frank!
Good stories.
Wow Frank! What an interesting story about how you started collecting. Hopefully the poor doggo is okay. Hahah
She is...lol
I'd like to see you do a Which One Last Longer, the old pump it up Coleman vs the new Propane Lantern, or just see how long the newer lanterns last. I think that was a big mistake on Coleman's part to go with the disposable tanks.
John I agree with you. I can do a test with them but it would be purely a financial one. Plastic lanterns have no value to me nor do I think they will last 100 years so the longevity issue does not apply. But what would be the cost of light using propane canisters? I don't know. But an interesting question.
OK, call me stupid, but:
What is the logic or physics that enables a two-mantle lantern to burn as long as a single? If the "tanks" are a different sizs, what is the amount of difference?
Muy buen trabajo. Te felicito.
I collect them and also restore them
Another great video, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I thought it would be absolutely perfect if the dog peed. The dog peed. Lol
Frank : Great video again. I really like "data" videos . All great info to know. Thanks alot, Michigan
Where could I find some 500-700 stove generators?!
Excellent video. Great stories. I look forward to hearing more.
All good, nice video, but every time I used them the glass broke when I turn them off. what I'm doing wrong ? how I'm supposed to turn them off ?
@@JoulWick you just turn the knob clockwise all the way to the closed position.
Thanks!
New follower.
In the process of restoring a 1968 220F. It was 100% when I found it but has been sitting a long time. Replacing the generator, leather pump puck and rebuilding the valve. I bought some graphite seals from ya.
There is some corrosion in the tank as witnessed at the fuel tank neck. So im researching best methods to clean it out.
Any suggestions from an expert appreciated.
Yesterday came across videos on youtube about cleaning out, and using Caswell fuel tank sealer in Coleman founts.
Hey Frank glad to see you. Hope all is well.
It is sir, doing fine no, thanks.
Will a kero lamp go out by itself safely? Left all night running.
Oh sure it will, once it runs out of fuel or pressure.
@@OldTownColeman the reason I asked was last time I did this , the next day the heater bowl was full of kero and kero had run out and formed a puddle on the ground when it went out. Great videos btw. Thank you.
is it just me, It’s never enough buying Coleman lanterns and stoves !! I have more than i need and still waiting more 😅
Did you pump them or is this one tank of fuel on one big pump up?
Wow! Almost 10 hours on one tank of fuel. That is awesome!
Am I correct to assume you didn't have to re-pump the tanks at all?
Reading the credits at the end, he states 'keeping the founts at very high pressure', so he must have been pressurizing the tanks periodically.
Thanks for the awesome videos and inspiration. I just sent my story over the Spit & Wittle.
Jason where did you send it? I have not seen it yet.
@@OldTownColeman I sent it to info@oldtowncoleman.com
@@OldTownColeman I will forward to your gmail which you replied to regarding the pot of coffee today.
I like that lantern that you light in the beginning of your video we’re did you get that I would love to get one
Don I just stumbled on it one day at an estate sale...it is a Sunshine Safety.
Hi Frank, I came across your video, when seeking info on repairing check valve on my first Coleman stove I had just picked up at a yard sale. Days later I saw a lantern that I just couldn't let go. I picked up some mantles and got it going. I do have a question? how long dose a mantle last and what is the biggest reason for them failing? By the way great video really enjoy your added perspective on how they work.
Sorry to barge in here but the mantles last a good while ,just remember they are like a ash and you dont want to bump them just be careful when lighting the lamp .I never touch the mantle. I have one ive used for about a year and the mantle is still ok .
At the end of the trip when collecting the lamp after it has cooled to put away, lightly spray the mantles with hairspray, It will give them extra strength when getting bounced around a bit and may still be good enough to use next time.
I have about 40 lanterns and maybe 20 plus stoves. I’m thinking about selling off my collection.
Why selling? Just that time?
@@OldTownColeman I have a co-pay for my prosthetic leg and the collection is pretty good soo…yay it’s that time.
Great video!
Hay Frank . where have you been ?? You can't stay away as long as you have been. Tell me how to get in. Touch. And do you sell any parts ?? How did the test you did about 3 months ago or so go ?? Don't stay away as long any more thank you Frank from montana..PS. You still look like George Harrison . during. The white album period. ( 1968 )......
Sorry Frank, have been stupid-busy but will be making more videos now. I need to talk to Mr. Harrison about him looking like me eh?
i loved the video, thanks for sharing 👍
My pleasure Kevin!
11:20…great joke! Thanks for your videos!
Where can I get a Coleman shirt like yours?
I think my wife found it on eBay...