How To Build A Solar Pool Ionizer / Copper Colloidalizer

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  • @jordanvt
    @jordanvt 4 роки тому +3

    Nice and easy. The advantage of also using silver is that when they are both present the antimicrobial effective is stronger.

  • @TheSilvertrade
    @TheSilvertrade 12 років тому +5

    u need to occasionally switch the positive and negative terminals to the plates. by doing so the green stuffs on one of the plate will be dropped off n starts to accumulate in the other plates, so if u switch more frequent u wont see any green stuffs,

  • @tankrum
    @tankrum 12 років тому +4

    How do you keep the copper levels low enough to stop copper staining? I am intersted in installing this setup but want to make sure that I can measure and control copper levels.

  • @lemauser646
    @lemauser646 Рік тому +1

    THANK YOU for your scientific foundation so that i can understand how this system works more thoroughly before i try to buomd one.

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому +3

    You need to wait for the copper level to get high enough to compensate for less chemicals... that will take time. (2 weeks) Depends on the sun and your pool size

  • @famcontreras93
    @famcontreras93 4 роки тому +2

    Gr8t vid do you have a review on this project or update on this project

  • @chinoyulo1222
    @chinoyulo1222 4 роки тому +2

    Can I use copper flat bars instead of copper pipes? Also how many watts is the solar charger you're using?

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому +1

    I use it. And it reduces the amount of chemicals I need. My pipes are more like an 1/8 inch I'm not sure how much amperage you need for a 1/4 inch. The larger the gap the more amperage you need, and the larger the colloids. So smaller is better.

  • @islandstrong7688
    @islandstrong7688 6 років тому +2

    your shortcut links don't work anymore. can you link to some drawing or plans? I'd like to try this in my small swim pond. I don't want to use any toxic chemicals at all. colloidal silver, colloidal copper and hydrogen peroxide are the ones I am studying now.

  • @USSBARBEL
    @USSBARBEL 2 роки тому

    Thanks! In Phx, too and the new chloring prices make this a near god-send.

  • @stickman-1
    @stickman-1 Рік тому

    Thanks for the help. I found this video because I already have purchased 2 of the floating kinds, but I use a pool cover when we don't swim and that kills the floating solar kind. So I"m going to do this with a solar panel mounted to the wall and run leads to the copper in the pool. Thanks!

  • @Zsmart
    @Zsmart 12 років тому

    For some reason this is the first video of yours to show up in my subscriptions in about a month.

  • @samuelmellars7855
    @samuelmellars7855 5 років тому +2

    If you want to be extra clever, buy one (or two) of the replacement anodes, and use that instead of copper pipe. More expensive, but longer lasting and has the trace elements!

  • @vvebsta
    @vvebsta 11 років тому +3

    Could you post a video of your pool now? I am just wondering if there's some way to see the results. Or if anyone else has results they can like me to. Haven't found any yet.

  • @guaporubio
    @guaporubio 7 років тому +2

    I wonder if a device like this could be made from one of those solar powered landscape lights? Like the floating ones. Food for thought.

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  6 років тому

      Not enough power from those solar cells

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    I don't worry about the concentration from solar. It would take a LOT of copper to harm you. Silver however gets toxic at low levels which is why I don't use it. Copper your body will metabolize, Silver can turn you permanently blue.

    • @jordanvt
      @jordanvt 4 роки тому

      The pool water isn't being consumed so some silver ions on the skin is unlikely to be toxic.

  • @johnrv501
    @johnrv501 11 років тому

    In the next two seasons I will be updating my saltwater pool to a much more cost effective ionizer. With what I have now would cost me $200 a summer just to replace my ionizer chamber if purchased from my Pool and Spa Vendor I had install my pool. After this third replacement in as many years I will be changing how I ionize my system, or Copper Colloidalize, as you pointed out, my system. Botom Line, You Rock Mr Wirtz! Your Vid is EXACTLY what I needed see! Thanks and Gods Blessings to you&yours

  • @jerryjunoirmint
    @jerryjunoirmint 9 років тому +5

    This is a great idea. All the companies selling their $500 dollar devices gave you a thumbs down on this video. Lol but you gave me a great way of making my own ionizer thanks

    • @JodBronson
      @JodBronson 7 років тому

      +jerryjunoirmint - Yup, I was thinking the SAME WAY :))))). I think this is colloidalization and not ionization.

  • @Carl_in_AZ
    @Carl_in_AZ 3 роки тому

    Living in Arizona where the temperature reaches 120F and the pool temps exceed 90F algae can be an issue. Adding this unit in my spa which spills over to the pool cut down on chlorine usage and cleaning greatly. I cut up the 5/8" electrical copper ground rod into 7-inch pieces and used 5/8" stainless steel clamps to attach the wires from the solar panel. For a floater, I cut off part of a pool noodle and placed the rods one inch apart so no cable ties were needed To collect the excessive copper build-up chunks that fall in the pool I wrapped the rods in a skimmer net. Costs: Copper rod $15.00, Clamps $1.00/each, Noodle $1.00, Skimmer net $0.40 and 5W solar panel $15.00. The rods need to be replaced once a year.

    • @kevinsmith364
      @kevinsmith364 2 роки тому

      Picture?

    • @Carl_in_AZ
      @Carl_in_AZ 2 роки тому

      @@kevinsmith364 Last month I broke down and bought an XtremepowerUS Solar Pool Ionizer from Walmart. The other worked fine but I needed to replace the copper rod. I would recommend copper pipe versus the rod. The ground rod kept on needing to replaced whereas the solid pipe last longer.

  • @jaaasgoed
    @jaaasgoed 11 років тому +1

    How is it a short circuit? The pipes are isolated from each other.

  • @TheDfranson
    @TheDfranson 4 роки тому

    I can get a 5 watt for about the same price as the 1 watt. Which would be better for this application?

  • @nickpenacl_
    @nickpenacl_ 2 роки тому

    how much voltage could the solar device provide ?

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    Same PH treatments as in any other pool. Hit your pool supply. Copper scale on the electrodes is not the end of the world as long as bubbles are still forming on it.

  • @cermaklostfoam129
    @cermaklostfoam129 12 років тому

    I am in the process to build the unit, however here in Thailand is not easy to get the copper tubing, but i got 20 mm diameter rod. Is it a problem ?

  • @LadyGoza
    @LadyGoza 4 роки тому

    Do the copper pipes need to be that long?

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  11 років тому +3

    Yes it does. Heavy Metals are toxic because you can't remove them through osmosis.

    • @carladurland5194
      @carladurland5194 7 років тому

      Biz of Tech I am thinking of getting a new,system for my pool should I get the copper oxygen or the copper silver????

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    depends on the filter size, but mostly no. it should be less than 1 micron,

  • @ftlink222
    @ftlink222 5 років тому

    I know they are separated by the zip ties, but doesn't the water short the circuit? I'd like to do this if it works well. Thanks for sharing the video. Would a larger solar panel make it more effective? Or make two of them?

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  5 років тому +2

      The point is to use the water to short. If there was no circuit nothing would happen.

    • @ftlink222
      @ftlink222 5 років тому +1

      @@BrandonWirtz OK , I get it now. Not electrically inclined here. I guess it closes the circuit? So I read alot of comments which say this is a farce. Does it really work?

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  5 років тому +1

      @@ftlink222 yes. Depending on pool size and sun light and how much you pee in it.(or have pigeons or other animals that do)

  • @gotanyketchup3422
    @gotanyketchup3422 5 років тому

    Would the copper have more of an affect on a fiberglass shell pool? I know they are typically more susceptible to metal staining.

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  5 років тому

      If you manage to stain your pool you have basically melted the copper pipe. This won't add that much copper that it would stain things.

  • @PixelUser
    @PixelUser 7 років тому

    are you still in Phoenix and.how.has this worked out for you?

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  11 років тому

    I think it will work, but it will have less surface area so you may need more of it.

  • @john84753
    @john84753 12 років тому

    I made one of these for my 15 ft vinyl pool and I have a question: my pH is low (6.8) and i read that it will corrode the copper electrodes and it does seem to be true because copper is scaling off. do you know how to raise the pH in a copper pool?

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    If you get the stuff in to the water (like floating) it can be filtered out by the filter... but you are better to vacuum it instead.

  • @sunshine28091
    @sunshine28091 12 років тому

    Could you help. Do you where i can get a pool heater for above ground pools 16''? that doesnt cost me an arm and a leg. thank you

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  11 років тому +3

    What do you think the main ingredient in algacide is?

  • @john84753
    @john84753 12 років тому

    will the pool filter remove the copper colloid?

  • @Hollywood4Fun
    @Hollywood4Fun 12 років тому

    Great. Was looking for info like this. I have a three foot deep 12 foot round pool I want to use no chemicals in. If I use a little larger/longer copper pipe and larger solar panel can I get away with no chlorine at all? Maybe add some salt to the water to increase the reaction?
    Thanks
    Rob H

  • @pappawheely
    @pappawheely 11 років тому +1

    makes a lot of sense to me..thank you..whats with all the angry people here? folks you gotta calm down and remember there a lot of trolls out there ignore them..stay focused and lets work together for a informed human condition.colloidal gold and silver works folks do the research peace and love and wake up and think out of the box your in

    • @brianski007
      @brianski007 5 років тому

      did you even try this out?

  • @benjones5799
    @benjones5799 6 років тому

    Nice. I had no idea if this whole idea was a scam or not. Will definitely try this.

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    yes

  • @stevenk113
    @stevenk113 11 років тому

    Many enzymes in cells throughout all kingdoms use copper ions as cofactors to be functional.

  • @MadScientist512
    @MadScientist512 10 місяців тому

    A cheap current regulator module should be included to control the amount of copper going in, which is exactly how overpriced commercial inonizers work. You can also buy ionizer electrodes containing the right ratio of copper and silver to respectively kill algae and bacteria, they're expensive but a relative bargain considering how much silver they contain, and that'll they'll last many years. You also really need that silver to kill pathogens, because copper basically only kills algae. You can also use just use copper sulfate and silver chloride or nitrate to put said ions into the water, which is exactly how the other type of ionizer works.

  • @RomanRevyakin
    @RomanRevyakin 12 років тому

    @BlackwaterOpsDotCom It's just come to me: the 1/8 inches is the gap between the copper pipes, isn't it?

  • @hafiz169
    @hafiz169 12 років тому

    I made this device finally. Its been four days. The water at first was clear now its getting grean with more algy. My solar panel seem to be working cuz i can see the light flashing and i also see some green foam around one of the copper pipes. At first i left it hanging by one of the pool return lines but today i moved it and i put it inside the skimmer. Can you please tell me what i m doing wrong? Thanks

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  5 років тому

      Your pool is probably bigger or your sun isn't as bright.

    • @davemarm
      @davemarm 3 роки тому +1

      @@BrandonWirtz I don't think he has a different sun unless he's in a different solar system.

  • @TechTrainSolutions
    @TechTrainSolutions 10 років тому +5

    While your setup is sound, virtually all of your explanations are wrong. This is about ionization, not colloidalization because the current produces copper IONS. The reason this sanitizes a pool is not because of the size of the cells in algae, but because of the electric charge carried by the copper ions and the charge of the algae organic material.

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  6 років тому

      There is no such thing as "Copper Ions". You are an idiot.

    • @brbubba
      @brbubba 6 років тому

      Yes, that's why these devices are called ionizers, because they have nothing to do with copper ions. /s

  • @lanceseidman
    @lanceseidman 12 років тому

    When i built my pool they suggested i put in these blower/sweeper things that blow junk off the bottom. Useless?

  • @RomanRevyakin
    @RomanRevyakin 12 років тому +1

    Thank you for the video! Could you also paste a link to an Amazon page with a copper pipe of the correct diameter that you are using? In one of your comments you mentioned that you are using a 1/8 inch copper pipe, and being a complete idiot in DIY and living in a country that uses a metric system I cannot translate what an outer diameter of such a pipe would be? Thank you very much!

  • @westfallvoice
    @westfallvoice 9 років тому

    Is this safe for fish? I thinking to keep algae down.

    • @abdozertv9285
      @abdozertv9285 9 років тому

      No it's very dengrouse for fish, because it will also kill the beneficial bacteria , will destroy your bio filtration cycle and eventually kill all of you fish

    • @deadmeatshield8749
      @deadmeatshield8749 8 років тому

      Copper is an Algaecide...that means it kills algae. Silver (used in other commercial pool ionizers) helps to kill bacteria. So NO...the copper ions will NOT kill the bacteria in the pool.
      So the copper will kill the algae, which produces oxygen. No oxygen -> no fish.
      There are other (and safer) ways to filter your fish pond.

  • @BreanMate
    @BreanMate 11 років тому

    "I don't have to swim in chemicals"
    lol

  • @quake2u
    @quake2u 3 роки тому

    I missed something ,where's the silver? silver is the sanitizer.

  • @jss61
    @jss61 6 років тому

    I'd like to see how to "waterproof" it, and how to make it permanent so I can create one for my daughter's pool. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this?

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  6 років тому

      The Solar Cell I used is water proof. Mine ran for 18+ months, and what died was that the coating on the wires rotted in the Arizona UV. That could have been solved with some Wire Wrap.

    • @bobhaas6941
      @bobhaas6941 4 роки тому

      I made one with zip ties and a similar waterproof solar charger from Harbor Freight. I used 2 pieces of pool noodles (cut to length of solar charger) zip tied together. The copper pipes pass up through the middle of the noodles where I soldered on the wires after the clips rusted off. The wiring is under the charger protected by the sun. I used 3/4" pipe and it makes little bubbles. Pics available at Harbor Freight solar charger comments. Remember to keep using chlorine and only reduce it as testing chlorine level says its safe to do so or pool with turn green fast.

    • @natey18
      @natey18 4 роки тому

      @@bobhaas6941 link to your HF comments? Or at least to the model you made comments on?

  • @seancraxford116
    @seancraxford116 7 років тому

    Doesn´t work for me! In this country algae seems to thrive on copper. My pool went green in 2 days!!!

  • @jbertel1
    @jbertel1 4 роки тому

    It really works! Thank you so much!

  • @nellux
    @nellux 11 років тому

    It has evaporated due to the heat generated by the short circuit!

  • @thomassmith3310
    @thomassmith3310 Рік тому

    I’m going to make one with a inexpensive solar garden light instead of buying a small solar panel. With a 5 dollar solar light an a couple pcs of copper you would be under $10.

  • @shantayprueeissen8914
    @shantayprueeissen8914 8 років тому

    Im sure you can build it too guys. Just look for InpliX page click the PIG and build it too

  • @antonbende8210
    @antonbende8210 2 роки тому

    cool.. thx.

  • @john84753
    @john84753 12 років тому

    Hey. Thanks allot for your help.

  • @stevenk113
    @stevenk113 11 років тому

    How would supplying elemental, solid copper with electrons turn the solid into a positively charged ion?

  • @breagustavo
    @breagustavo 4 роки тому

    Excellent !!! Thanks !!!

  • @saiyaniam
    @saiyaniam 12 років тому

    Nice video.

  • @carmelinakatzman1863
    @carmelinakatzman1863 8 років тому

    I'm sure that you will find good way to make it on Inplix Website.

  • @nunyanina583
    @nunyanina583 8 років тому +1

    some people are just Stupid Stupid Stupid. pool liners don't stain,test straps or meter help regulate the copper ppm in pool water. another good sign that your copper levels are getting high when you forget to test and adjust is my granddaughters blond hair. it turns green when the copper levels are high. LOL

  • @john84753
    @john84753 12 років тому

    Thank goodness for geeks. I will do this.

  • @danielcelisgarza
    @danielcelisgarza 11 років тому

    If the pipes are touching then you're shorting the circuit and it doesn't work. If they're not then you're not adding any more oxygen to anything, but are electrolising the water, and electroplating your copper tubes or making them react with different anions (depending on which is the cathode and anode). You're also not making any colloidal particles. How do i know this? I'm a chemist.

  • @nofluffingtv3037
    @nofluffingtv3037 8 років тому +1

    The copper needs a filter or it will stain your pool over time. I don't think you'll want to be swimming in copper dust either.

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  6 років тому

      It's colloidal copper. Not dust. And if you had enough to stain your pool (green) you'd have melted like 20 feet of copper tubing.

    • @recon1071
      @recon1071 6 років тому +1

      It's not copper dust. It molecular size(almost). and you would rather bathe in chorline and Acid with absorbs through your skin?

  • @connermonier8669
    @connermonier8669 7 років тому

    You should go to WoodPrix if you'd like to make it yourself guys.

  • @sanguineel
    @sanguineel 11 років тому

    If you are referring to copper sulfate, you do not want to be swimming in that. But this device is basically just a short circuit and will not form it anyways.

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    Did you miss the girls in my videos? Playing on the stripper pole? Making the Spy Cam? Eating the Popcicles, Showing their flaming boobs?

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    Google knew you wanted to see me in a swimsuit, rather than standing in the kitchen.
    [You sexist pig] :-)

  • @BreanMate
    @BreanMate 11 років тому

    Wait hang on he literally just makes a circuit wtf

  • @timothyhall7153
    @timothyhall7153 Рік тому

    Well I hope he's not been using this thingy in that po he's soaking his feet in cause,,,,, DAMN!!! Looks like that water is 100% pee pee

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    Knitting. I don't do knitting.

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    You First :-)

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  12 років тому

    You are insane. Chlorine has a smell. Just like bleach

  • @BrandonWirtz
    @BrandonWirtz  11 років тому

    Obviously you are not very bright as you didn't provide any information about what was wrong. We can't all be so self important as you as to know what was obvious. Why don't you grace us with some explanation so we can bask in your knowledge.

  • @lakerlaxgoalie13
    @lakerlaxgoalie13 11 років тому

    The reason is that this is a bull shit device.

  • @zacharyharris6295
    @zacharyharris6295 5 років тому

    He has created a DANGEROUS electrical hazard. Please note that the ATV chargers that he talks about are small but powerful solar panels. A ~30 dollar model on Amazon is marketed with the following specifications: 12V (DC) 2.4 Watt. This means the panel at peak performance can produce .2 Amps (200 mA) which is capable of stopping your heart. I recognize that there are several factors to consider when talking about the lethality of such a device, but it’s not a risk I would want to take around my pool with people that are curious and wet.
    So why was he not shocked in the video?
    1) We don’t know the output of the solar panel he is using.
    2) The solar panel is shaded for most of the video (lower voltage).
    www.asc.ohio-state.edu/physics/p616/safety/fatal_current.html

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  5 років тому +3

      You failed hard at physics. The only place electricity is going to pass is between those two pipes and is going to do so over the foot of surface. The potential electric shock would be less than that of putting your hand on an "eye of the storm" from sharper image.
      Even if you grab both pipes you are not the path of least resistance.
      The electrical leach from the pump on you pool is greater.

    • @zacharyharris6295
      @zacharyharris6295 5 років тому

      @@BrandonWirtz *Time for ADULT SWIM.*
      As I stated, “there are several factors to consider when talking about the lethality of such a device,” the path of least resistance is one such factor. Your video offered no guidance on the power output of the solar panels that individuals should purchase. You simply state, that you used an ATV charger and your provided link is now dead. Some of the common front page 12 Volt ATV chargers on Amazon range from 2.4 watts to 8 watts, meaning that the under optimal conditions they can produce amperages between 200 mA and 1500 mA. Amperages in this range are lethal. The marketed pool ionizers “Floatron” you are are trying to replicate, do not operate in these ranges.
      Your suggestion that the “potential electric shock” from the solar panel circuit you are creating is the same as plasma ball “eye of the storm” is not accurate. Perhaps your first-hand experience working with these solar panel circuits has created a dangerously false sense of security. “I touched it and didn’t die” is not an effective method of determining the lethality of electrical circuits. Furthermore, comparing your shock observations to the baseline of a kids toy perhaps speaks to your letter grade in physics.
      My goal was not to argue with you, simply to offer a word of caution to other viewers wanting to make this device. For everyone, please keep in mind that the end user is in/around a pool and will likely be wet, which increases the hazard. A device constructed and used in this manner, at this power level, is not a risk that I would take with my family.
      I provided a link to some reference information by Paul Giovinazzo from the New Jersey State Council of Electrical Contractors Associations, Inc.
      ( www.asc.ohio-state.edu/physics/p616/safety/fatal_current.html ),
      and a link to “Controlling Electrical Hazards” from the United States Department of Labor OSHA
      ( www.osha.gov/Publications/3075.html )
      I wonder if they passed physics?

    • @BrandonWirtz
      @BrandonWirtz  5 років тому +3

      @@zacharyharris6295 at 8 amps, placed in water with the anode and cathode inches apart, even if you were touching both clips you'd not be the path of least resistance.
      For a solar cell to harm you it would need to be roughly the size of your pool.
      You'd also have to hold both terminals, not let go, and be in a pool that wasn't a path to ground so the current flowed through you.
      You really failed or never took any physics, or Electrical classes. Stick to your lane bro. Which seems to be something related to my little pony fetish videos.

    • @davemarm
      @davemarm 3 роки тому

      @@zacharyharris6295 Look up how much current a AA battery can supply. There's a reason most people refer to those batteries as widow-makers. I once nearly touched both ends with my index fingers. Close call.