Arib & Music in Abbasid Baghdad | Assassin's Creed Mirage

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  • Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
  • The new game Assassin's Creed Mirage takes place in 9th century Baghdad and includes some really important and interesting historical figures. In this short video, we explore one of these - Arib - the amazing musician & poet who went from a slave girl to a wealthy businesswoman and celebrity.
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  • @idraote
    @idraote 5 місяців тому +50

    It's interesting how the authors chose to portray her in her later years, taking away the glamour of the young, beautiful, seductive slave to let her shine for her wits instead.

  • @khalidmuhammadansari6691
    @khalidmuhammadansari6691 5 місяців тому +41

    To you treachery is a virtue, you have many faces and ten tongues.
    I'm surprised my heart still clings to you in spite of what you put me through.
    - Arib al-Ma'muniyya
    To think how influential Early Islamic Poetry is even today, especially in the field of worldly love (Ishq-e-majazi). It's truly one of the most interesting domains when it comes to the history of the Islamic Golden Age.

  • @BlackHermit
    @BlackHermit 5 місяців тому +18

    I'm really loving this Assassin's Creed Mirage series you started!

  • @LoudWaffle
    @LoudWaffle 5 місяців тому +8

    Always a delight to learn of another brilliant figure history has otherwise obscured from me.

  • @barrymoore4470
    @barrymoore4470 5 місяців тому +11

    It's exciting to see this formidable cultural figure of the Abbasid golden age discussed here. Arib was just one of the many distinguished women musicians and poets of this period, but remains among the better remembered, for her varied accomplishments, in all of which she was said to have excelled, and also because of her remarkable longevity, living almost the entire span of the ninth century.
    There is an amusing anecdote preserved of Arib in her old age, a wealthy and famous grande dame, being visited by a couple of much younger men who sought to meet the living legend. Knowing of her past as a concubine, well versed in the sensual arts, they asked her if she she still felt fleshly desire at that stage of life, and she replied that her heart still knew passion, but her limbs could no longer obey.

  • @NikhillRao27
    @NikhillRao27 5 місяців тому +4

    I don't even play games but these vids make we want to pick this one up

  • @VivekaAlaya
    @VivekaAlaya 5 місяців тому +1

    I love how you use AC in your channel! I have a channel in portuguese (Brazil) about Gnosticism and in my free time I like playing AC! So relatable

  • @Delhi_Sultan
    @Delhi_Sultan 5 місяців тому +3

    Very interesting video highlighting how vibrant the culture was in the Golden Age of Islamic civilization.

  • @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906
    @vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906 5 місяців тому

    thanks as usual!

  • @Diogolindir
    @Diogolindir 5 місяців тому +6

    my man, great video. I gather so much inspiration from this era since Im interested in several things. I write music and play te guitar, Im interested in history, poetry, programming, spirituality and martial arts and culinary arts. I admire how the people from the Golden age of Islam were able to learn so much things.

    • @majidbineshgar7156
      @majidbineshgar7156 5 місяців тому +4

      The Golden age of Islam came about due to 2 factors :1- the influence of non-Arab Muslim scholars and their" non-islamic" i.e. Greek, Assyrian , Persian, Iberian contribution 2- the prevalence of Religious Spirituality over dogmatic Islamic Sharia .

    • @Diogolindir
      @Diogolindir 5 місяців тому +1

      @@majidbineshgar7156 a great comment. Thanks

  • @cloudincloudout
    @cloudincloudout 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for there incredible videos. I truly enjoy each and everyone.
    I heard you say several times “oud or lute” and I just wanted to clarify that they are indeed two separate instruments that are similar but have differences. The oud is the lute’s grandfather sort of.
    Thanks again.

  • @perlaeliasnemer6820
    @perlaeliasnemer6820 5 місяців тому +3

    Please please Filip, a video of music and slavery, this is so fascinating! Tell me, do you know if Qiyan was an "institutionalised figure"? Can we compare Qiyan with egyptian Awalim? Can I ask you your sources for this subject in particular? I definitely want to know more! Thank you for your precious work❤ (hugs from Italy)

  • @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj
    @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj 5 місяців тому

    Thank you,LTR⭐🌹⭐

  • @elgatofelix8917
    @elgatofelix8917 5 місяців тому +4

    Last time I was this early, it was still "only two weeks to flatten muh curve"

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 5 місяців тому +7

    After hearing Arib's story, I cannot helped but feeling that did she open a school of her own to teach the next generation of women to become singers without having to become the Caliph's concubines or not.

    • @lionelchan1601
      @lionelchan1601 5 місяців тому +1

      As the Buddha said, the affairs of women are not meant to shine out in the literal open... maybe her oral transmission survives today, inshaaAllah.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 місяців тому +5

      She taught other women as far as I know, but being a concubine was kind of were the jobs were as a (female) musician

    • @barrymoore4470
      @barrymoore4470 5 місяців тому

      @@LetsTalkReligion Yes, as she herself had been a slave once, she in turn came to own singing girls who she instructed, these ladies often adorning banquets and poetry contests with their refined arts.

  • @HB-jn2qj
    @HB-jn2qj 5 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @KRISPYeBIKE
    @KRISPYeBIKE 2 дні тому

    book of songs! very interesting, didnt know that it covered pre-islamic arabia too! added to my book list

  • @hrodvitnir6725
    @hrodvitnir6725 5 місяців тому +1

    Någon plan på att göra nån video om Safavidordern eller Qizilbash?

  • @xstatic-ow5mz
    @xstatic-ow5mz 5 місяців тому +1

    So this channel is about video games now? Nice change of format. Didn't see that coming. 😂

  • @ianramoscardenas4507
    @ianramoscardenas4507 5 місяців тому +1

    Please, make a video on La Santa Muerte.

  • @xstatic-ow5mz
    @xstatic-ow5mz 5 місяців тому +3

    I guess it's only a matter of time before this channel changes it's name to *Let's talk Gaming* 😎

  • @realhedi7911
    @realhedi7911 5 місяців тому +2

    Please do “Who is Salah ud-Din al-Ayyubi”

  • @Radahntheconqueror
    @Radahntheconqueror 5 місяців тому +3

    Just to be precise, being the daughter of Jafar Al-Barmaki would make her Bactrian (Barmakids were originally Buddhist leaders from Balkh Monastary).

    • @phoenixk4328
      @phoenixk4328 5 місяців тому +1

      It's Rumars nobody knows what she is. Especially that Jafar is persian and persians never used the name Arib

    • @barrymoore4470
      @barrymoore4470 5 місяців тому +1

      @@phoenixk4328It's a story that she herself was said to have promoted, but she may not have ever known the truth of the matter. She was an infant when Jafar was executed by the Caliph and the rest of the Barmakid clan fell from power. As for ethnicity, had her father been Jafar, the heritage of her mother could still have been any ethnicity that fell under Abbasid dominion, so she could well have been a mixture of ethnicities. As for her name, Arabic was the lingua franca of the society, and there would have been nothing extraordinary in her being given an Arabic name, regardless of the backgrounds of her parents.

  • @Ahmedsakil85
    @Ahmedsakil85 5 місяців тому

    💥

  • @adriantepesut
    @adriantepesut 5 місяців тому +1

    This game is so amazing for Arabic immersion
    The Arabic dub is so professional and better than the English audio quality if you ask me

  • @nasseraltamimi1778
    @nasseraltamimi1778 5 місяців тому +12

    The thing is, Islam’s treatment of slaves was A LOT different to the west’s treatment. Freeing them was encouraged, some of them even got to ruling ranks like the “Mamluks”, and many other ”rights”(if you will) that were really unique to the religion.

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 5 місяців тому +4

      It really depends on the place and time, "Islam" as a whole does not treat slaves in any particularly specific way. How slaves are treated is always up to the humans.
      But yeah, in Arib's context it's important not to equate the slavery she was under to something like American chattel slavery.

    • @nasseraltamimi1778
      @nasseraltamimi1778 5 місяців тому +1

      @@LoudWaffle
      Absolutely. What they did was indescribable… And it’s true that treatment is up to humans. However, If you look at the Arabs’ treatment of slaves before and after Islam, it’s evident that Islam changed the whole system of slavery.

    • @forgetful9845
      @forgetful9845 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@nasseraltamimi1778How did Islam change the treatment?

    • @nasseraltamimi1778
      @nasseraltamimi1778 5 місяців тому +1

      @@forgetful9845
      Sure. Here are a handful of examples:
      1) Islam narrowed down the ways of enslaving people into one way, which is captivity in war. Back then, the pagans had many ways of enslaving people, like enslaving you if you are in debt as an example.
      2) Treatment of slaves had no restrictions back then. When Islam came, the prophet peace be upon him stated that they are our brothers. We should clothe them of our clothes, and feed them with our food, and that we do not burden them with what they can’t bear (Sahih al-Bukhari 30). In fact, one of the last advices he gave before his death is to treat slaves with utmost care (Sunan Abi Dawud 5156).
      3) Freeing of slaves is heavily encouraged (Qur’an 90:11-13), sometimes even obligatory, in Islam. If the master, as an example, hits his slave, the expiation of such an act is to set him free (Sahih Muslim 1657a).
      4) Slaves in Islam can very will be on leading ranks of governments. Now there is no specific way of them getting to hierarchies, but if they do so,we are obligated to listen to him (Sunan an-Nasa'i 4192). You can search about the Mamluks if you want to know more.
      Those were some of the main examples. There are actually more, but I assume you get the idea.

    • @Dredd-od2xs
      @Dredd-od2xs 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@forgetful9845it wasn't nothing like how the West treated them

  • @moussadieng3680
    @moussadieng3680 5 місяців тому

    Talk about sheikh ibrahim nyass

  • @WeekzGod
    @WeekzGod 5 місяців тому +1

    You are single handedly selling this game for me. I haven’t played a major console franchise game in probably a decade (not counting fifa). If this is available for PC I’ll cop.

  • @ef4768
    @ef4768 5 місяців тому +4

    Can you do an episode on “What is Zionism” ?

    • @userahmed190
      @userahmed190 5 місяців тому +1

      الافضل أن لا يفعل لأن توجد طائفتان من الناس أحدهما مع فلسطين بشدة و الأخرى مع إسرائيل بشدة و ستحدث مشاكل و كراهية و سب و شتم

    • @forgetful9845
      @forgetful9845 5 місяців тому

      I feel like Filip's specialization is moreso religion and philosophy. Zionism is a political idealogy. I would enjoy some more Jewish-based episodes though focused on the modern period.

    • @mugsofmirth8101
      @mugsofmirth8101 5 місяців тому

      @@forgetful9845 it's not merely a political ideology as it expressly advocates for a theocratic state, so there are strong and overt religious and cultural implications that the ideology entails.

    • @mugsofmirth8101
      @mugsofmirth8101 5 місяців тому

      @@userahmed190 no need to shy away from controversy just because some individuals can't keep their emotions in check. Are you knew to the UA-cam comments section? 😂

    • @forgetful9845
      @forgetful9845 5 місяців тому +1

      @@mugsofmirth8101 That's a good point

  • @propps2253
    @propps2253 5 місяців тому +1

    Is the game worth to buy for the history? I am not really into the gameplay of ac but if the history is well told i maybe give it a chance.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 місяців тому +2

      Depends on how into the particular time period you are

    • @propps2253
      @propps2253 5 місяців тому

      @@LetsTalkReligion i am very into the golden age, but i don't know how much history there is in the game and how much fiction. If it's very grounded in history i will give it a try.

  • @muhammadrehman8307
    @muhammadrehman8307 5 місяців тому

  • @christinajurzis5718
    @christinajurzis5718 5 місяців тому

    👍👍😇😇

  • @tyler2010
    @tyler2010 5 місяців тому

    FAMILY

  • @savelives3763
    @savelives3763 5 місяців тому

    A new topic for your content: There is this academic Islamic Scholar and Researcher named Gunter Luling. He has a quite interesting research on syrian-aramaic origin of Quran, which is quite getting the attention of all scholars of Islam. It is saying how the words have their meanings changed since Dots(.) and other Arabic alphabet elements are added later to the oral Quran compared to earliest written version of Quran which didn’t have them.
    It is an interesting topic to delve into. Some of the new meanings are much more logical and actually makes more sense and made me believe in the new translation of this holy book more than the translation that was thought of as original before.
    I listened to his reasons without bias and ego and it makes sense. You may like to delve into the topic.

    • @Dredd-od2xs
      @Dredd-od2xs 5 місяців тому +1

      That's completely wrong. That's a hater of Islam trying to cause corruption. So fk him

    • @ayumelove
      @ayumelove 5 місяців тому

      Where can ir ead the new meanings and new translation?

    • @AbdulazizKider
      @AbdulazizKider 4 місяці тому +1

      Are you even a muslim? Whya re you making up things stating that is getting attention of the Muslims and so on. No one wants to entertain such people's lies

  • @DonkeyTate
    @DonkeyTate 5 місяців тому

    As a donkey this is interesting.

  • @ElCabalero
    @ElCabalero 5 місяців тому

    Please put subtitles in the video about Atenism not being the first monotheistic religion. And if you can, also make a video about the aspects of Zoroastrianism in its early years, which did not have monotheistic aspects, and how they were only built during the Sassanid era.

  • @somebody700
    @somebody700 3 місяці тому

    Her name is not Arib, it's Orayb but when copied to English they butchered the name, as usual.

  • @MrDanny1247
    @MrDanny1247 5 місяців тому +2

    Why don't you make a video about the history in palastine and isreal and what brought this conflict

  • @els1f
    @els1f 5 місяців тому +2

    1:00 "Music was almost exclusively associated with slave girls, alcohol, and erotic promiscuity" as it must be to truly be called the golden age😋🙃

    • @lionelchan1601
      @lionelchan1601 5 місяців тому +1

      LOL... Golden Shower Age. Astaghfurallah...

  • @majidbineshgar7156
    @majidbineshgar7156 5 місяців тому +3

    Abbasid dynasty seem to have been rather secular for their time and also quite multi-cultural.

    • @DhirarPatel
      @DhirarPatel 5 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, of course they were multicultural, but they were never secular. Lmao

    • @majidbineshgar7156
      @majidbineshgar7156 5 місяців тому +2

      @@DhirarPatel " secular for their time "

    • @rimacalid6557
      @rimacalid6557 5 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@majidbineshgar7156everyone is secular for their time if you look at it from a different timeline relative to other timelines you decide

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 місяців тому +8

      What do you mean by secular?

    • @majidbineshgar7156
      @majidbineshgar7156 5 місяців тому

      @@LetsTalkReligion Secular for their time , in the sense that they were rather lax dealing with Sharia laws ( If you were versed with Islamic laws you should understand what I mean ! )

  • @Eid111
    @Eid111 5 місяців тому

    👍👍🤍

  • @userahmed190
    @userahmed190 5 місяців тому

    I like to say that her name is عُريب (auraib) not عَريب (arib)

  • @mccarraa
    @mccarraa 5 місяців тому

    H3 family

  • @obitookenobi4604
    @obitookenobi4604 5 місяців тому

    It’s not Arib it’s pronounced Uraib in Arabic.

  • @athelstan5794
    @athelstan5794 5 місяців тому +5

    Free Palestine

  • @theguyver4934
    @theguyver4934 5 місяців тому +2

    The fact that you keep on making videos related to assassin's creed mirage does not mean that it might be a good game
    in fact i heard it sucked

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 місяців тому +1

      You "heard" it sucked?

    • @theguyver4934
      @theguyver4934 5 місяців тому +1

      @@LetsTalkReligion That's what most of it's reviews are saying

    • @Kevin3dp
      @Kevin3dp 5 місяців тому

      ​@@theguyver4934There are also many reviews that praise it. Personally I think it's one of the best AC games in a while.

  • @mugsofmirth8101
    @mugsofmirth8101 5 місяців тому

    It's unfortunate that this channel has hardly any content touching on pantheism, which is perhaps the one view of God hated by both Christians and atheists in equal measure; most likely because neither can disprove the existence of The Universe which is the same as the Pantheistic God. Because the Pantheistic God/The Universe exists, both atheists and Christians go into crisis mode when faced with this reality. Severe cognitive dissonance ensues.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 місяців тому +4

      Well, that depends on how broadly you define pantheism. I have plenty of videos about pantheistic-adjacent topics. Including several on Spinoza.

    • @LetsTalkReligion
      @LetsTalkReligion  5 місяців тому +1

      Well, that depends on how broadly you define pantheism. I have plenty of videos about pantheistic-adjacent topics. Including several on Spinoza.

    • @khalidmuhammadansari6691
      @khalidmuhammadansari6691 5 місяців тому

      Some people might say otherwise, citing how he has done a video on Wahdat al Wujood, which is "basically pantheism".
      We don't talk to those people.

    • @mugsofmirth8101
      @mugsofmirth8101 5 місяців тому

      @@LetsTalkReligion I saw your video on Spinoza and you even said it is debated as to whether or not he was actually a pantheist, which is true, and therefore the video isn't really focused on pantheism itself. "Pantheistic-adjacent " isn't really what I'm looking for...

  • @user-uu5ml4fk4i
    @user-uu5ml4fk4i 5 місяців тому +1

    Israel is not a land, but a prophet 🇵🇸 Jacob Peace be upon him 🇵🇸🤲🏾☝🏾, but God chose people who do not kill or corrupt. They believe in God and the Last Day. God promised them happiness, joy, and happiness that will not end on the Day of Resurrection with God.

  • @ashimov1970
    @ashimov1970 5 місяців тому

    Are you familiar with Firas Zahabi, a canadian of lebanese origin? He's a true successor to the great Islamic Thinkers, and Civilization's great sons of great Islamic Tradition

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 5 місяців тому

      All I see about him is that he's a martial artist, why are you describing him like a modern day scholar-philosopher extraordinaire?

    • @ashimov1970
      @ashimov1970 5 місяців тому +1

      @@LoudWaffle 1. Pythagoras was the Athens/Greece martial arts (boxing) champion, so what's wrong about a thinker being famous for martial art successes or vice versa?
      2. You have definitely missed significant number of videos where he is speaking about philosophy , theology and metaphysics

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ashimov1970 I wasn't disqualifying him from being a thinker because he's a martial artist, I was saying that he seems to be known only for his martial arts career. I only googled him, hence why I asked what makes you describe him that way.

    • @ashimov1970
      @ashimov1970 5 місяців тому +1

      @@LoudWaffle ok, no problem, and sorry for misunderstanding you, buddy