Talismanic Magic in the Islamicate World
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- Опубліковано 22 гру 2024
- We continue our exploration of the Occult Sciences by looking at the theory and use of Talismans in the Islamicate World.
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Sources/Suggested Reading:
Melvin-Koushki, Matthew & Noah Gardner (2017). "Islamicate Occultism: New Perspectives". Brill.
Saif, Liana (2015). "The Arabic Influences on Early Modern Occult Philosophy". Palgrave Macmillan.
Saif, Liana; Francesca Leoni; Matthew Melvin-Koushki & Farouk Yahya (2021). "Islamicate Occult Sciences in Theory and Practice". Brill.
Savage-Smith, Emily (ed.) (2004). "Magic & Divination in Early Islam". Ashgate Publishing.
Van Bladel, Kevin (2009). "The Arabic Hermes: From Pagan Sage to Prophet of Science". Oxford University Press.
"The Openings Revealed in Makka", al-Futuhat al-Makkiyya by Ibn 'Arabi. Translated by Eric Shu'ayb Winkel. Vol. 1. Pir Press.
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The way you hit the letters ح & غ is authentic man...
I appreciate your work and dedication for perfection.
As a Muslim I feel like a lot of my brothers will come and trash all over the comment section. They probably will not have watched the previous video and are going to insert their assumptions in here. But Filip please don't be discouraged by them and spread knowledge as you always do. love your channel ❤😊
That is very kind of you!
It seems you are most concern about finding faults and accusing fellow muslims of something which hasn't happened yet. Well, why don't you just renounce your religion, I guarantee you, no body is gonna care.
@@johnsword8954 you went all the way to asking people to renounce their religion instead of asking them to repent seems you proved him right Akhi.
@@johnsword8954 Peace brother,
The "Christian Hadith" about Prophet Isa's words on "dust motes and beams" seems apposite here.
It might be true what you say about our brother's imperfection in Adab. If we can give him the benefit of doubt, perhaps Allah will give benefit of doubt for our own.
Salaam.
@@mokieth3456 That statement was meant for him to realize his mistake not to judge the entire ummah for what the few are doing. I didn't literally intended to ask him to leave Islam. have you heard of the thing called, reverse psychology? Wassalam and maasalama.
As a Muslim, I really appreciate your video, it is exceptionally informative and the illustrations are so beautiful.
What do you think of mystical christianity and I'm asking as a muslim
So u still accept this satanic religion which that eye is of shaytan
@@theguyver4934 Christianity is the Religion so there are not such thing as mysticism cuz we know this is Satan. Plus thanx Jesus Christ we are totally everyday protected from Satan, BTW as the Quran said before.
@@theovaissie2480 Christianity is a beautiul faith and it deserves to be revied before its too late
@@theguyver4934 no
I used to teach high school math, and I've seen and used Magic Squares in lessons. I had no idea they started out as actually magic devices. Wish I'd known that earlier - thanks!
Ha haa...
All math has esoteric history and meaning. Hebrew is math. It's all math......the language of the gods.
@@takima504 There is only one God. He is Allah. Hebrew is trash.
@@sapphireemerald6882 in a way yes. Take sacred geometry for example. Everything has a frequency and can therefore be measured.
@@sapphireemerald6882 if you think your way is the only right way, you're in a cult.
I just found your channel today and I'm already binge watching!
I wanted to thank you for being so respectful while tackling such a controversial topic.
When I was a child, my grandma would always fill my pockets with black sesame seeds (habbat-al-baraka) to protect me from the evil eye and I would jokingly eat them. I also used to have a small pocket sized Quran in a leather pouch to carry all around me. I also had (and still have) Khamsa Pendants and an eye one. My grandfather, who studied in the Zaytouna mosque would write me and my sisters tiny scrolls with Quran verses or prayers. On Eid Al Adha my dad would dip his hand in the blood of the freshly slaughtered lamb and make a Khamsa on the wall for blessing. In my country (Tunisia) we gift nee Borns Talismans in the form of fish or fish tail and even an Antilope horn.. I could go on forever. This video really unlocked these precious childhood memories and it is so sad to me that this is almost dead seeing as how taboo the topic of magic is. Thank you for reconnecting me to a heritage and a home I so dearly miss.
Hi Hana
I'm Muslim, and while my dad always taught me to never interact with 'black magic', I've always loved learning more about the occult. It's funny how Muslims back in the Golden Age of Islam dabbled in subjects that would make really strict Muslims in the modern day lose their minds lmao
The thing that shocked me the most is how popular astrology was in the Muslim world. But the prophet (saw) did say it would never leave the ummah.
not sure about it being "black magic" though, i'd like filip to correct me if he sees this comment but my guess would be that black magic is linked with the power seeked from the djinn, what filip is talking about here is mostly talismans linked with the power of god, now i'd agree that in the modern era for sure even the second one is considered bid'a (innovation) mainly because the salafi interpretation is the dominant one (or let's say more visible), i'm not sure what was the stand on it before, but regarding the first one (the black magic linked with djinns) i must say your dad is right, it's clearly forbidden and dangerous.
@@zackxal6481 non Salafi groups are against this too with the exception of Quranic verses for some but I don't know what they say exactly about it.
@@stevenv6463 yeah yeah i was actually talking about the ones with quranic verses, the ones with letters in symbols ...Ect i must say i didn't know nothing about it till recent weeks, it's kinda fascinating me but i don't really know what's the ruling on it
@@stevenv6463 you do know that these times were infamous for there degeanrcy right? pederasty was for example a common and allowed thing
Your Arabic pronunciation is amazing. i didn't expect to see a foreigner pronounce arabic this good simply because some of the arabic letters/sounds are missing in most languages especially in english language. you must put alot of work, time and effort.
I live in Alexandria. I once got in an Uber and the guy had so many Talismans! Many people have verses from holy books hung on their rear view mirror, and many have the Khamsa-we-Khmesa (our name for the hand of Fatimah). And its not just Muslims, but Christians too!
I was raised Catholic in Northern Italy and the Hand of Fatima was a very popular talisman used for protection, in the 1990s. People knew it was of Islamic origin and used it anyway, with the idea that something that fights off evil is always something positive.
Edit: grammar
@@AnnaGirardini Or the famous Nazar Boncuk/Nazar amulet (Blue Eye)
Interesting. I'm not Muslim but there is something about Islamic tailsmans which are very appealing.
@@bluegarson It's the hand with an eye in it. It isn't exclusive to Islam, but in Islam it is also commonly known as the Hand of Fatimah.
Please remind your brothers and sisters in Alexandria that these are all not part of Islam and that using them is an act,of Shirk
1:17 in Arabic the word ( Sihr ) it feels like far more powerful and scary than the translate to English (Magic) we all used to see someone show us some magic tricks and we call it (magic )
but (Sihr) in Arabic it feel like it directly related to the demon (Shayāṭīn ) or something very bad !
Because it is related to shaitan obviously
Ten years ago this information was nearly impossible to find if you didn't read and speak the languages most of these ancient texts referenced are written in.
Amazing how far we've come.
Your videos never disappoint. I love that you share your knowledge of magic in such a sober way. Btw, the healing bowls were fascinating!
You are doing a nice job as well Layla would love to see more of your videos😊
@@Alirazalaghari19995 that’s very kind of you! I’m aiming to put out a video every Sunday 🙏🏼🤍
@@laylaoresme6704 nice , are you on instagram ?
They really were fascinating but for me it was the shirt that had a big impact for some reason, when I saw it I literally said "whoa" out loud lol
I really respect how U take a great care about using a terms and sense of word's
U have very wide knowledge about islamic semantics!
Respect
Ps;I'm born in Bosnian Muslim family so...
I really appreciate that you covered the face of Solomon when talking about him as islamic prophet. It's very respectful
The only bad part of this video is where it ends
Brother your tajweed of the Arabic haroof is immaculate. Respect
Probably been studying arabic
You are deep than deep itself! You are right on point about talismanic magic. Also, you research sand divination especially from North Africa and Sahel. These things are real.
He briefly touched on sand divination in the video that preceded this one.
And its demonic
@@x.r.d7744 what's demonic?
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What’s demonic ?
@@x.r.d7744 yep satanic
The Hamsa and evil eye were one of the protection talisman of Ishtar, and coincidentally it’s also the Abhaya Mudra of protection and fear dispersion that Heavily associated with Lakshmi in dharmic traditions.
Can u tell me the meaning of goat and scorpio symbol
Moazam Ali I’m not entirely sure of the exact deific origins of those motifs. I do, however, know the astrological correspondes of Capricorn and Scorpio respectively. Capricorn generally deals with the material, and discipline, human limitations and Karmic contracts being a sign influenced by Saturn, in the major arcana of tarot the devil represents it. Scorpio is ruled by Mars, the warring god and is usually seen the personification of change,it deals with human instincts(survival mainly) as well as the chthonic aspect of the psyche and sexuality, and the Death arcana represents it. Hopefully this sheds enough light to that question
Surya Tchandra, thanks, as a student of the spiritual and esoteric, I always try to find the universal correspondence of the deities of all cultures, with goddesses in specific. And with Lakshmi being a Venusian deity, the connection with Ishtar and such goddesses became apparent, specially with her origin story not too unlike Aphrodite’s having both emerged from an oceanic source.
Fascinating
Trank you Emanuel, Props. Not a lot of people know this. In turkey we think the blue eye protects you. It cames from the sumerian babylonian tradition. So it calls the devil. The eye Never protects you, it watches you.
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Written talismans that you eat, hang over things, etc, is identical to how Daoists did things. Daoists also burner parchments with particular ideograms on them to "activate" them.
This is great content. In Malaysia Islamic community, we have an example of consumed 'talisman'. Water is placed in front a group of people reading one of chapter in Quran (Surah Yasin). The water is later drank in small quantity throughout the week.
I think some part of Indonesia did it too.
What us this custom call in Malay (or Indonesia) language?
I don't think this is talismanic it's just a practice we have done since the time of the prophet. It blesses us and protects us from shaytan. We do it in Pakistan too not as often though.
It is not fard. Not all muslims do it, but some.
We do this in my house too
Looking forward for the episode you will make about the science of letters. Can you possibly include a comparative analysis with other religions like Judaism, and other religions who also emphasize the power of letters, alphabet and words/sounds?
yes, that would be very interesting. especially the use of the number 786 among indo-pak muslims.
@@marcyanus1430 yes
@Xanthum Gum But look at 8:35 :
Before computer was, Debian was.
Good request for new video! I came across this video this week, thought it was something incredible and refreshing to hear about christianity today during these difficult times today. Its definitely worth a watch!
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...and numbers. I just watched the movie "Pi" again last night, not perfect but good value fun. Salaam.
I travelled to Senegal in the 80s and witnessed many people with lslamic/voodoo talismans. The culture was part of the fabric of the village.
You're absolutely right I live in senegal and this knowledge is still part of the esoteric schools
No such thing as islamic voodoo.
@@sallalkhalifa9330interesting. There's alot of Islamic influence in Hoodoo and Juju and Conjure here. Can't say about Vodou, but I'm assuming that it's through out the African diaspora. Ifykyk.
When you memorise names of God and verses of the Quran then your heart and mind become a 'talisman' and there can be no greater talisman than that!
You said that so articulate and smooth!
Agreed and accepted
Then why recite the Quran, when it is already in your heart and mind? Would that mean that one who memorizes the quran should continuously benefit and get one hassanat for each letter?
@@tahirdiallo9051 Learn more about the human mind and how it works. Then you may learn to know the answer to your question.
The mind does not become a talisman but rather Allah loves such a person. A person who Allah loves will certainly have Angels protecting him 24/7
thank you for your dedication, the amount of knowledge i get from you is insane. Thank you, truly !
Thank you very much. I grew up with most of this practices, but i didn't understood it at the time as a child because most of this goes against islam as shirk. This one and the last one before this is very good.
It's so deep.... Literally gave goosebumps through out the whole sessions 😳👀
These things are very very prevalent in my home country of Iraq especially in the more rural areas and people pay a whole lot of money for the "authentic" ones from rings with special kinds of rocks on them serving different purposes to the healing bowls to various protective talismans , BTW most of these practices and ideas have been ingrained in the culture for thousands of years way before Islam.
I am both happy and sad that I found this channel recently. Sad that I haven't found it before, and happy because I have so much content to listen to. Thanks for enlightening us my friend.
I've seen similar thing in Thailand done by my devout Buddhist friend. He'd go to the temple and ask a monk for protective talisman. The monk wrote something in Sanskrit on the headliner of his car. He happens to be on the road a lot
Jin... Who worship devil.
Thailand is probably the most superstitious country in Asia, if not the planet... I've seen a lot of weird stuff there, unlike it's neighboring countries, they aren't shy about it,
The origin of magic squares is Sanskritic culture. I treated this video as perhaps a parallel tradition until he mentioned childbirth. Definitely a Hindu thing.
As a math nerd, it never occurred to me to associate magic squares with actual magic beliefs.
Talismanic magic and works involving jinn (both benevolent and malevolent) are common across so much of the world yet almost wholly unknown in the West. Thank you for spotlighting these on your channel, which I've just discovered and am enjoying very much.
Another great one. I remember as a little kid, we used to own one of the magic bowls in our house. My grandma would fill it with water and put hot coal pieces in the water and then use the water to sprinkle our faces when we felt bad. This was usually done after we would have guests over so that we were protected by the evil eye. It really worked 😂 The bowls in our region are called Quran tas which translates into Quran bowl and its because they are adorned with verses of the Quran on them. Thank you for your time
How does someone get affected by the evil eye? I don’t really understand it
@@dpc3324 They believe you get bad luck/cursed when someone envies you. Evil eye describes the look of envy/contempt that transfers the bad energy.
@@Knobsmacker In Indonesia and Malaysia people called it "sakit ain" meaning sickness of eye,
Evil eye is actually a fact in islam muslims should believe it
"The evil eye brings man to his grave and a camel into the cauldron"
Qurtubai hadith
Your pronunciation is amazing!
Re: the vintage of the Khamsa, the hand with an eye on it recalls Greek legends, eg. the old women Perseus goes to to to seek advice on his quest. A Western Pagan, Marie Cachet, writes about how this sumbolises the midwife, whose ability to "see" via the sensitivity developed in touch is a vital part of the intergenerational health and healing of any people's.
@LittlefootwithAlopecia Peace,
And thanks for the thanks...
Midwives as the original psychopomp and masters of the liminal space. If developmental hiccups are increasingly in frequency, it is through their hands we can seek His help to arrest the problem.
Marie Cachet has much to offer. She has a video on "the role of women" that is most eye opening. The fact she is married to alt-Right hero Varg adds even more to the integrative possibilities.
Salaam.
Greek pagan took everything from semitic mythologies , khamsa related to pheonician godess Tanit
@@jubanumidia8460 Peace Friend,
That's interesting, and it doesn't sound unlikely. Nevertheless, for us to make contact with the Real underneath these symbols, we must proceed via whatever we have. For better or worse, for the modernised world, that is via the Hellenic. Salaam.
reminds me of the Oracle Leonidas sees in the movie 300
eyeball in the palm of their hand
Great video, you should make another one on demonic possession and exorcism in the Islamicate World. It's such a rich topic that will be very exciting for your viewers.
That was really cool. My ex had a khamsa necklace and I liked it so much I got my own. I didn't know the extent of it as a talismans. So this was great knowledge to take in. Thank you
Moses' brother's (Aaron) wooden staff with copper snake wrapped around it became a talisman for the Hebrews, which apparently even budded. There's also Apocrypha writings in book of Jubilees I think which explains a woolen fleece talisman passed down from Adam's son Seth, and lost after the flood in Noah's time. Sounds familiar to the story of Jason and the magic Golden fleece
I noticed that one of the images you showed of the seal of Solomon had a G in the middle. Do we know if this is related in some way to the G in the Freemasonic logo? I understand that Solomon's temple plays a key role in the mythos employed for the initiation ceremonies of the Scottish Rite. It would make some sense if there was a talismanic practice of putting a G in the middle of a powerful seal which they employed in creating their organization's logo, but I don't want to assume anything.
Wath Sean Hross G is a freemason symbol on the windows in the lodge. You'll have to work through the videos he's done so many but he has shown the g symbol.
Freemasons and any other occult practices have taken from the religions all over the world from the ancient knowledge to the abrahamic religions especially Judaism since it began with the Jews with the rise of Kabbalah so it wouldn't be that surprising if they use the knowledge or symbols in other religions and we don't even know for sure the actual seal of Solomon had a G in the middle since these characters didn't exist back then.
@@lylserb7818 While I agree that G as a Latin letter would not have been used among most Islamic mystical communities, I was primarily interested in how that particular depiction of the seal made it into the graphics included in this video. It seemed to suggest some more ancient source for the convention of associating Solomon with the letter G that may have pre-existed Freemasonry.
@@andythedishwasher1117 true, thought it most likely will not be true to the depiction of the real seal of Solomon at the end of the day, a lost of mysticism takes knowledge and information from different sources which makes a lot of the source material lose its authenticity, so whatever the source of the G is, is probably very far from Solomon's.
@@lylserb7818 It's been my belief for many years that Solomon operates primarily in a symbolic capacity from an emic perspective in Solomonic magical traditions. It seems to be acknowledged that there was indeed a King Solomon in history, but many legends about him are understood as potent allegories within initiatory traditions. For that reason, I'm less concerned about the historicity of Solomon employing a G in his rituals and more concerned about the meaning this letter came to acquire with the advent of Latinized magical practices.
Talisman indeed includes "science". The other day I read about a specific one made with numbers and those numbers were actually astrological let also the ones with planets names. So it's fascinating how the old ages had this curiosity of discovering the new realms.
I received a “pocket” made of rabith leader with seeds inside and cottons of diferent colors hanging outside and it is for the entrance of my home. A muslem family gave to me in Tunes. Bendiciones Filip desde México 🇲🇽!
Be careful with it. Seems as a magic practice
And what do you make of it?
Where did the family come from?
Is Tunes in Mexico? 🙁
@@junaidmuhammed5740 Is in the entrance of my studio.
@@SI-ln6tc Tunes is in África, Far from Mexico
Excited for this, your videos are fantastic!
Thank you!
This guy does black magic ua-cam.com/video/LaEXwcHUg2g/v-deo.html
@@Dima-px6pr he said he DID black magic. All religions' mysticism actually does black magic.
Coming from the subcontinent I have to say, you’re work is amazing! Fantastic research and presentation. I really request you to make a video of Indian Cultural Impact on Islam. It’ll be great . Thanks!
Filip covers some of this in his videos on Sufiism as well as his videos on Dara Shikoh, Akbar and Sikhism. Modifications in practice and even beliefs are affected by changes of time and place. There are certain syncretic practices that had crept into the Islam of the Indian subcontinent and certainly Islam has influenced Hindu practice particularly in North India. These practices are so ingrained that it is barely perceived. There are often movements within religions towards more fundamental beliefs. In India today, there are strong Hindu and Muslim fundamentalists organizations which first became prominent over the past century to "get back to a time" before these influences became influential. I've deliberately tried to be vague by leaving out names and specific practices to decrease passions.
A story from my childhood fits today's video. Approximately fifty years ago, we were visiting relatives in India from the States. I apparently had suffered a high fever. A local holy man (imam?) was either visiting or was called to the house to say a prayer for me. He did so and tied a talisman around my neck. My parents soon took it off stating that this practice was superstitious and otherwise not Islamic (e.g. ungodly). Yet, using talismans is a very common practice on the Indian subcontinent.
One must acknowledge, however, that even signs, symbols and practices that are emblematic of a religion have their roots in the occult sciences and talismans. How much of Christian (particularly Catholic) practice is simply the adoption of Roman practices and procedures that overlay the teachings of Jesus Christ? Both the cross and the belief in the trinity came straight from Roman religious symbology. The pontiff (the Pope) replaced the pontifex maximus. The crescent and the star of David have similar ancient symbology. It is hard to separate "true" dogma from practices adopted that may have served as a social lubricant.
@@arifshahabuddin8888 sufis were didn't originate from Indian influences
@@Ibn-Abdurrahman it is the Sikhs that were influenced by islam
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
But indian Sufism did get influenced from Indian religion typically Hinduism and with vaisnavism bhakti moment within India .and Sikhism influenced by both Hinduism Islam and other .still they believed in Hinduism concept of reincarnation or rebirths ,moksha and birth in 84 lakhs joom means life forms whereas they worship God as formless which is also one of the way of Vedas ! But they don't belive in propehts or judgement so there are heavely influenced by core concepts of Hinduism Jainism and bhuddism !
@@Sushil_sharma344 oh my God I am not talking about Indian sufis. Why do you have to make everything revelove around you? I am talking about sufis like al rumi and al Arabi
I have been fascinated with Solomon's seals and magic squares for a while since I keep encounter it in many talisman designs from different regions: US, Middle East, Chinese, Malays, Batak. Now I understand the meaning and history behind it. Thank you so much!
Love your vids, so glad I found them through watching "religion for breakfast"-thank you algorithm lol I'm an atheist but I'm really interested in the history, sociology and thinking around religion because it's been an integral part of the human experience since before records began and your vids are really informative so thanks!
Exquisite presentation of "Talismanic Magic in the Islamic World"!!! I have studied broadly the spiritual traditions around the world, contrasting and comparing. I'm an astrologer, numerologist, Metaphysician, which boils down to the study and practice of "symbolism" and "symbolic knowledge". Therefore, I quite understand, that just like the study of any kind of discipline and its symbols, one comes to a deeper and deeper understanding as one practices one's particular discipline and its own "talismanic Magic". Thank you for a very refined presentation and pronunciations!!!
On that talismanic shirt i noticed what i think were hexifoils (the geometric, compass drawn patterns on the shoulders), this is interesting because in england there are numerous examples of these carved into the stonework of medieval churches, sometimes a single one of these churches will have more than a dozen examples. Their purpose and origin are a bit mysterious but the prevailant theory is that they were carved by churchgoers in medieval times precisely as a kind of apotropaic magic or ritual protection marks. Excellent video, thankyou, Arabic calligraphy lends itself beautifully to objects of this kind, the level of detail is outstanding, the letters are so crammed together yet remain so elegant, you really do get a sense of their power just by looking at photos.
Thank you.
As a quote-unquote born twelver it is amazing to view your take on subject matters from an academic point of view. Practices that might be deemed surreal or borderline occult are everyday and matter of fact in a lot of places.
Carry on doing such great work. Thank you!
These are forbidden in islam, asking help of shaitan
Looking sooo much forward for ur amazing lessons whether ur a Muslim Christian or whatever ( not anyone’s business though )Allah will inshalla grant blessings in life and after life for this great englightnent to everyone yearing to understand
He said before hes Christian
@@wanderingRebel69 i think he said he was culturally christian, but at this point, he doesn’t have a particular tendency to participate in the beliefs and practices any specific religion. In other words, he’s an agnostic.
Edit: in this third Q&A video, he confirmed that he is a cultural christian, but he doesn’t adhere to its theological doctrine and practices, however, he does believe in a personal conception of god, which he pays tribute to in his own way, detached from any direct affiliation with religious traditions that we know of. So, correction: he is not agnostic. He is a gnostic. Not a practitioner of Gnosticism, I’m assuming, but someone who relates to the more literal meaning of a gnostic - someone who gains gnosis (divine knowledge/wisdom) via personal experiences and connections with the divine.
But your Allah hates non Muslim, am Hindu, I pray to idols and in his perspective am a Kuffar and Mushkrin, how will your Allah bless me? Lol
@@gautamramlochun850
he doesnt hate non muslims. only idiots he despise.
@Justinthe Comments are you a muslim ? No
Is politeism.the worst of sins ? Yes
Dp you understand islam to actually do such claims ? Clearly not.
If you speak of hate you dont even understand the concept of god in our religion.
Ask...there are a lot of muslims.to explain it to you
Thank you for this interesting presentation. I'll go back and watch the bit I missed at the beginning.
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This is the black magic
I'm a muslim trying to be a suffi living in Algeria ...and i just wanted to thank you for all the knowledge in your videos .... You're awesome dude !!!
You' want yo be Sufi ?why dont you, joint kpop !!!!
I see some muslims are hostile but remember this video is for educational purposes, not whether magic is haram or not.
We use metal bowls with quranic writing on them in my home! I usually pour water in them and drink from them. So cool to see examples of them in this video.
Where do you buy them?
Sir can't even imagine how that much grip any person have on such a vast subject,salute u
I recognise a few of these things from my studies of magic in the Christian middle ages. Once Arabic sources started being translated into Latin, many of these texts became popular in Europe. The Picatrix was extremely controversial amongst Christian scholars as some thought it was useful and others thought it was demonic.
Yes, this was discussed in his previous video "Introduction to the Islamicate Occult Sciences".
Wonderful video Filip! As a muslim, I still don't know the rulings for these 'magic' practises but it is a very interesting topic and now I have to wait perhaps one more week for another video... Good content!
As a moslem living in Indonesia, I can confirm that using talisman for various purposes is very common here, from the most basic one like a paper with Ayatul Kursi inscribed in it to more 'advanced' one like a piece of animal skin imbued with a lot of arabic chants, verses from Quran, and sholawat.
The goblins and the Yemeni merchants: You know that the magician is making you a servant of Satan, and if you try to return, he will kill you
Superb material, thoroughly enjoying this series touching on very taboo topics pertaining to occultism within famed Islamic eras. Can’t wait for the next instalment.
It worth mentioning is "Hirz al-Jawad" which is a common amulet between Iranian Shiat which is being worn as a ring. The Talisman is referred to 9th Shiat imam Mohammad Al-Jawad.
Also "Sharaf o-Shams" (honor of the sun), is a talisman written on the back of a yellow quartz stone only in one night (around the month of April) in the whole year. The talisman is very similar the seal of Solomon you showed here
What is the purpose of wearing the hirz-al-jawad ring? Is it for protection or something else? Also, can you speak more about the sharaf-o-shams? What is that stone worn for? I never saw such things as magic but more as a written form of a du'a. How are they viewed in the shia world?
@@shahrarti You are completely right, Hirz-al-Jawad and Sharaf-o-shams are originally written as a prayer. But the applications are more like a talisman which first should be prepared with a specific ritual and second only carry them with you benefits you like a protective spell. While the prayer should be recited and will work through the heart of the person reading it (unlike the spell which the reciter might not even know the meaning of the words he's saying).
Hirz-al-Jawad is a prayer that will be written on a very small piece of paper and sealed in a silver ring for the person to carry.
Sharaf-o-shams (meaning: the honor of the sun) is also the prayer which will be written in a strange script that is not Arabic on the back of the yellow agate gemstone, this process must be done all in one special night (I think it April 8th but I'm not sure) and in only from the sunset to sunrise. The gemstone can be used later on as a silver ring for men or a necklace mostly for women.
The purpose of wearing these two is not clear to me as well but it is believed that wearing them will protect you from natural causes and also help you to have an easier transition to the afterlife. Looking at the yellow agate gemstone is believed to enhance eyesight. (PS: I don't believe in none of these superstitions)
Filip! This was great!! Thank you ☺️ once again for sharing your knowledge! Btw the music in the background of the videos are 👌👌👌🤩
LTR... I love the whole thing. Your production values are really high. Script, sound, set, lighting, camera, mic, editing; you've got it all. But you should fire your wardrobe director immediately. Immediately. [Step it up, bro.]
I love your channel! I'm very interested in ancient literature and I always look to your videos to discover great writers, poets and thinkers that I had never heard of. It's a shame that here in the so-called West, Arabic and Persian literature is so underapreciated. Every time I see one of your videos (specially those concerning some of those thinkers from the Golden Age of Islam) makes me get mad / sad that it's been so long in my life that I never heard of these works. Hope your channel keeps growing and reaching many more people!
Also, I was wondering if you could recomend (here or in the future) some of your favorite works of literature.
Cheers!
loved your last vid about islamicate occult sciences, so i can't wait to give this one a watch when i find some time!
The magic squares are represented planetary numbers with the number converted into letters by using numerology. Like taking ones name converting the letters to numbers and using planetary grids then connecting the numbers with lines and the shape is sacred, if you want to see a good reputation of this look at Crawely’s Tarot cards the line shapes in the background of the images are talisman.
I love how collect information and they are always right to the point!! Thank you 🙏
Talismans used a lot in Indonesia especially in colonial times. People use it as an armor so they 'immune' to sword or guns. They also use it when the peasants riots or war against the Dutch. One of the best example is the 19th century peasants riot in Banten. Sufi teacher gave talismanic items to their students that join the riot.
What do they call them in Indonesia?
@@SI-ln6tc jimat
Ilmu kanuragan or "shield or armour magic" is quite popular there i heard
Love your work please talk more about esoteric sciences or information about it in more detail please 🙏
With your deep knowledge of Islam and Sufis I am curious if you will tackle Omar Khayyam at one point? I think it would be interesting!! You have an amazing channel, thank you for this amazing content.
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.
Fascinating. The hamsa has traveled all the way to the Americas, carried by Spanish settlers who were fleeing the Inquisition. It's normalized now and I've seen it in the homes of Indigenous peoples or mestizos who had no idea of its Islamic origins. It is used as a symbol of protection and wellness, as folks have told me. Thanks for this fascinating and well-researched video.
It's older than islam as he said it in the video. These things are shirk
@@hxyzazolchak Whatever its age, I think it's pretty fantastic that such a wide variety of cultures have claimed the jamsa as their own. IMO they are infusing meaning into it and giving the symbol power.
@@zainabamadahy9918 it has no power
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl disagree.
@@zainabamadahy9918 Then you are willfully rejecting the Qur'an, and hadith.
Talismans, as described in the book Shams al-Ma’aref, are a group of Arabic letters and numbers. The writer says that letters and numbers have a magical power if they are written in a specific order and form, and they are often linked to planets.
Where can I get this book
You'd better mention the Turkish Islamic amulet called a muska. It's called a tumar in Azerbaijan and Central Asian countries. It's a hand-written paper folded into a small triangle and put into a triangle-shaped casing made of leather or thick linen cloth or metal. A "good"/"protective" muska contains prayers or Quranic verses. An "evil" muska contains curses, hexes or words/symbols that supposedly summon demonic jinns and instruct them to harm the person whose house the evil muska is secretly placed in. Interestingly, the words in good muskas are only in Arabic whereas the words in evil muskas can be in Arabic, Assyrian Aramaic, Hebrew.
It’s all shirk good Musca is shirk .. it’s Allah u ask for protection read the Surat bakara , Elnas , elfalak … do the dawn athkar , evening athkar , sleep athkar . Period
Nationalism has no place in here
@@glorioustea7433 What does nationalism have to do with what I wrote?! I just gave a cultural example in relation to the topic of this live stream. Some Indonesian or Malaysian person can come and post a comment about the amulets and talismanic magic practiced in his/her own Islamicate society for example. That wouldn't be nationalism either.
@@ertuncdelikaya8237 don’t even bother replying to these people lol
Hoe does one know what muska one has? Does a good musk come where you know of it? And a bad one be buried in a wall in your house or in your garden in a clay pot? I’m asking because I heard someone finding a pot buried in their garden with this. They destroyed it
After the first video I though how could you top it, but you have, thankyou. In this video you show how magic is so intertwined with our religion, in complete contradiction to those who's only understanding comes from misquoting Al-Quran.
This episode is great ! Could you make something similar for Jewish talismans from different populations?
I hope he goes for it. I came here looking for some Kabbalistic talismans and sigils - like the Tree of Life.
@@Drekromancer yes! I’d love to see how North African Jews shared symbols, I have a Libyan salhat amulet made by a Jew but worn by both Jews and Muslims. Symbolisms are very interesting
I have so much admiration for the time you take to chose the right words.
Good stuff bro, you’re very clear. Unbelievable subject as well. I grew up as a muslim, sihr is like the greatest taboo, but it was everywhere. They tried to hide it from the children, but i think it’s better to be well educated about these things. It’s also just fakin epicly interesting :)
I love ur videos u are a great teacher and ur Arabic grammar and pronunciation is on point...
Brilliant. I recommend the book 'Allo Kafi Gida' for a West African (specifically Hausa) context on your discourse.
Does this book touch on esoteric Senegalese practices?
*At **09:44** the Talismamic Scroll with 'Star of David' on it. Kindly answer my below mentioned question as this holds significance to my core faith n belief system.* ✡️
I'm an Ismaili muslim myself, thus I'm super curious to know whether this particular scroll was actually used by the Fatimi Imaams as a legitimized Ismaic practice or was it some sort of contemporary occult element as might have been practiced by local people over there.
As fas as I can understand it contains vows of Allah, Muhammad, n Ali, what's the matter, please respond. 🌸🇮🇳🌸
“I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, ‘Spells (ruqyah), amulets and love-charms are shirk.” I said, “Why do you say this? By Allaah, my eye was weeping with a discharge and I kept going to So and so, the Jew, who did a spell for me. When he did the spell, it calmed down.” ‘Abd-Allaah said: “That was just the work of the Shaytaan who was picking it with his hand, and when (the Jew) uttered the spell, he stopped. All you needed to do was to say as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say: ‘Adhhib il-ba’s Rabb al-naas ishfi anta al-Shaafi laa shifaa’a illa shifaa’uka shifaa’an laa yughaadiru saqaman (Remove the harm, O Lord of mankind, and heal, You are the Healer. There is no healing but Your healing, a healing which leaves no disease behind.’”
(Narrated by Abu Dawood, 3883; Ibn Maajah, 3530)
JazakAllah khairan!!! Brother
While some of the talisman that did inherit quranic verses or directly asking from god's help or the name of messengers, or allah swt's 99 names, or the names of other prophets and that doesn't qualify as shirk in the slightest. However, coming down to amulets (such as the famous blue eyed amulet and the hand of fatima) those are classified as shirk because they completely rely on something else other than god and what you're practically doing is giving a useless object a sense of absolute power (which can never happen to a mere creation of allah). Most of these talisman object's had quranic verses or allah's names and that was one of the key factors in making good of the specified purpose required (or fulfilling the job required).
Love this series so far! 🙏🏽
Interesting to learn that Imam Al-Ghazali made a "positive" reference towards magic squares. I'm excited to do some reading into that, especially considering how interesting Islamic academic writings about numerology and divine decree are. I just love the connections one can find in such discussions.
Ghazal was a fool .
I believe it is from the Incoherence of the Philosophers. But I could be remembering incorrectly.
@@LetsTalkReligion thank you!😊
@@LetsTalkReligion Somebody should write about the incoherence of "The Incoherence."
@@arifshahabuddin8888 Definitely! I just hope that person won't Rushd it.
Most underrated channel!
Past: Ya Buduh; Present: Yabba Dabba Doo. Joking aside, excellent and informative. The evil eye - brings back memories of my Italian grt-grandmother and her ability to 'cast' the evil eye for not-quite-enlightened purposes ... or, rather, every else's belief that she could do so.
omg i really forgot abt Ya Buduh! i remember one of my aunt taught me that dua saying its helpful when we're in tough situations... am i right?
I am blessed the day when I found your channel.
It makes me think that the game Sudoku had a lot of influence from this talisman with the many squares that would all add up.
Interesting tought, i love sudoku but never made the conection with magic squares. You have woken my curiosity.
Thank you for such detailed research and explanation
I look forward to this!
Hey man great video as always. Can u do a video on Unitarian Christianity/Arianism? It is quite an interesting form of Christianity that i think many people including me have not much idea about but would like to explore.
Pope Arius
I'd second this request :)
I know it's The Season, but I can't help feeling that the Halloween ambiance clashes with the topic 😅 Apart from that, absolutely great video, as always.
@Champagne SOYcialist STOP GRASSIN ON ME islamicate magic* it's not the same as islamic magic there is no islamic magic
@Champagne SOYcialist STOP GRASSIN ON ME Halloween isn’t a Christian holiday lol
@Champagne SOYcialist STOP GRASSIN ON ME what’s Catholic about it?
@Champagne SOYcialist STOP GRASSIN ON ME it’s not even catholic lol
Your pronunciation reflects a lot on the amount of researches and efforts for the video.
It's always fascinating to look how the religious orthodoxy interacts with the folk beliefs.
Thank you! I really enjoy your work and look forward to more of your content.
For those who are misunderstanding islamicate as islamic, in Islam any kind of of "magic"(not necessarily Sihr) is prohibited in whatso form, whether it is amulets, paintings, drawing etc. Whereas islamicate is just poiting towards cultural and social structure of isalmic regions and not islam!
Indeed!
Your pronunciation is fantastic, very knowledgeable, thanks you brother ,
Can't watch the premiere sadly. I am so ready for this video though.
Thank you for all the efforts went into this.
Every Christmas holiday, my WASPy American family makes sugar cookies of hands with hearts in the palms (the tin cookie cutter is antique, four generations at least!).
Could this be related to the Hamsa?
No
Good work. Hope you're gonna do something on Melvin-Koushki's PhD thesis, 'Quest for Uni ersal Science..'
Seconded. He is a trail blazer in the field.
Can you make videos about Chinese religion, I am very interested!
Fantastic work thank you for making our evening's more enjoyable
My mom has two metal engravings bearing the names Allah and Muhammad framed on the wall in her living room. When I was growing up we had the syahadah hanging above the front door of the house. Almost every Muslim family I know has similar objects in their house and sometimes their cars as well. This stuff is very much in practice today! At least here in Malaysia.
It is used as a reminder and to read n helps u memorise Arabic … it isnt do with anything to do with magic
everything are base by ones intention.if they believed it was for protection than it's wrong.and i'm a Malaysian it's just a confirmation for identification that we're Muslim and must reminds ourselves that we are Muslim by behaving like one