I was raised by Narcissists and Alcoholics, and a lot of us stay quiet because there's a very real stigma attached to saying something like "I was relieved when they died". People just refuse to accept that some people should have never been allowed to be parents.
I'm right with you there. That sense of relief, no longer havingh to make excuses for them, no longer having to explain yourself to them, no more arguing or feeling like you'll never measure up to their expectations - the whole time, they don't even measure up to their own expectations, but you can't tell them that. LIke Natasha said: "they weren't bad people, they were just nuts." 100% same
The more people I meet with parents like mine, the more I realise how common a sentiment that is, either ‘I can’t wait for them to die’ or ‘it was such a relief when they died’. Says it all really, they are interpersonal terrorists with variable levels of self awareness
If it's how you felt, then it's how you felt. What's truly there is to be honored. Surely, being honest about our feelings is a high form of love, just as trying to be "proper" purports to be.
@@snicker576Once you have been to hell for an extended vacation and were able to come back home, mind you hell comes in different ways, there is knowledge, empathy and awareness gathered that make you more human than the average human.
Sure, I guess. People who have suffered a lot, kind of find their own ways if they want or get better. They may suffer from similar emotions and traumas but completely different circumstances. But I sure do understand the human struggle in all categories of a perception of “living life”. No judgement here. Just love and kindness for all of us who’ve struggled.
I love anyone who is able to say they felt relief when their abusive relative passed. It's okay to both feel compassion for peoole but also acknowledge that they aren’t/weren’t a force for good in your life.
Same here. Hearing Natasha say it out loud with no joking or anything really gave me such an unexpected feeling of joy. One of my worst abusers passed suddenly last year and every day I remember that they're gone and I feel such relief and peace that they won't ever stalk me or call me or hurt me every again.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Conan or any of them so quiet and just letting someone speak like this! Natasha is fascinating. I bet she has SO many good stories
What she’s saying makes so much sense to me. My mom just died a couple months ago and I was so surprised what a relief it was. She was a narcissist and really put my brother and me thru hell with the head games. Natasha is so interesting
I can listen to her for ever. She is so smart and funny and completely authentic. I loved when she talked about being consoled by Rosie Perez and Marisa Tomei and how those were the three thickest accents. Hilarious. She was also on the Smartless podcast and she was great there too.
That kid is the Real Deal too. She's learned from the great people in her life. That's a special something to carry onto the next gen. Its true a genuine kindness goes such a long way. To be seen and to see another. RIP Paul
I was happy when my mom died too. People hear that, and think you're some heartless person, but if they only knew how she abused me in childhood, they'd agree with me. I don't know if my father is still alive, haven't seen him in almost 20 yrs, so I just assume he is. May as well be. And I'm happy that both of my abusive and neglectful parents are dead. I'm also happy we're in a time period where more people are understanding now, than 20 yrs ago, and earlier. When I think about the trauma my grandparents, and all of my ancestors before them suffered, I'm so grateful to live in these times, where there's healing available ❤
as a red head with bangs who's goal after college was to join the CIA raised by abusive alcohol parents, I can't believe I've lived my whole life in Natasha lyonnes shadow
She's so beautiful and smart and relatable. I did not know this about her upbringing and as someone who had narc parents I love her for talking about this so earnestly.
In a way this reminds me of the book/memoir "I'm Glad My Mom Died" by Jennette McCurdy! Should definitely talk to her, she talks in her book many times how much she LOVED watching Conan OBrien on TV, and fake sleeping when Jay was on 😂
I so related to the hypervigilance part. I also thought i should be in the CIA due to how i can read a room, read people and their state of emotion with usual accuracy. Its a little exhausting but i have to say does come in handy sometimes.
Complete silence when she's telling how things were back then. She's tough. And cool. I like people who can't help but naming things how they see them. Great guest
My older sister bullied me since I was 5. My father was a dominating narcissist. My mother was codependent with my father. However, controlling when it came to me. My late husband was a bipolar, narcissist, alcoholic. I enjoy my peace now. My parents passed away 2 years ago and a big heaviness left me..relief yes but y ou can't say that to people without sounding like an awful person..but it's true. I do miss and did love them. I will never remarry. Been dominated all my life.
I get what she’s saying about her friends kids, I do everything for my kids and I’m so overprotective and now that they’re a little older I realized I did wrong because they are overly dependent on me and have too many fears
@@MsJellyBellyLove I'm waiting for the word from my aunt connie. Here's the thing? What's my responsibility? I wasn't there when my dad fucked my mom. Also, she allowed it. Why is it my fault?
I have been through hell and back again and again... aint no way I'm sittin in a chair all stiff and uptight. Some of us don't need to pose or please the crowds, we know who we are, where we come from and where we're going.
Boy, do I relate!! Anyone who has had to deal with parent or parents with severe issues, especially severe mental health gets it. We are so hyper-vigilant. Typical origin of a superhero. Messed up childhood and hero after😂😂😂😂
It took me a month to realize I actually felt relief when my dad died. He was a very difficult man. It's a real thing to be alleviated when someone who hurt you died. People just don't talk about it.
Kudos to her for quitting smoking. I quit twice, last time for good (I hope!) almost 10 years ago. I've heard nicotine is more addictive than heroine. So, not an easy feat. Keep it up!
Both of my narcissistic and abusive parents are still alive (as far as I'm aware of), as well as their narcissistic counterparts (they're divorced). I don't know when or if I will find out when they die or died, but I do know that it is going to be a relief when they do, even if it's from a distance. I came into the world fighting, and I have had to every day of my life because of my parents and the abuse that they put me through. My life is finally starting to stabilize, and that gives me more clarity and distance as well, but they should have never been allowed to have children to begin with. As a child of abuse you really have to clean up the mess before you can have your own life, and have healthy relationships that fulfill you, as opposed to doing things to avoid the pain. It's a struggle and a battle, but you can definitely make it out okay. You just have to put in the work.
I wish Russian Doll would come back. That was a great show.
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Same! I didn't realize she was a writer and producer of it as well but after seeing the wit and humor when talking about dark topics I'm not surprised.
I have to agree with her. Having to make decisions for yourself made me a stronger adult. Then I probably crippled my children because I never wanted them to suffer.
It's funny that Natasha brings up Susan Terrell from "Fat City" because for a long time I thought the two actors were quite similar. And they're both were and are talented artists.
Man, I related so hard as someone who has been raising myself ever since I can remember. There were even times I was parenting my own nut job untreated mom. Hyper-vigilant over everything for years. It took therapy, a cptsd diagnosis, and rehab to finally start recovering. ❤️🩹 Thank you guys for this episode.
It's so lame that her mom was trying to talk her into getting a boob job when she was younger. Natasha's perfect and gorgeous in her natural unadulterated state. A boob job would have been an aesthetic detriment to her beauty. Would have been bad for her body (and her mom should have realized that if she cared about her at all)... it's a negative and weird head trip to put on one's daughter. Seems like that was just of many lousy things her parents probably did.
She's saying things here that you really need to think about. Hell made her this way, but she's an amazingly beautiful woman. I would so love to talk to her over a cup of coffee💋
People need to talk about their trauma, when they are living.... Cant really resolve conflicts, when the other party is dead. There's only so much disassociation and "letting go" that ptsd will allow. YOU DESERVE ANSWERS...have those difficult conversations. You deserve better...and resolutions feel good.
what a serve! paused my watchthrough of poker face about midway because i loved it too much to cope with finishing it but it's been ghosting through my mind ever since whispering my eyeballs back
I just saw Natasha on Pee-wee's Playhouse. She looks like how one of my niece's looked when she was little. Natasha is an amazing actor. She's great in everything she does.
Dear Heavens- She had me at: 1) Just being Natasha Lyonne….2) Then Having a long term relationship with Fred Armisen ❤ (yes I know they are no longer together, still….) THEN! 3) Having a beloved caring friendship with Paul Reubens????!!! ❤ Forget it- My mind can’t even wrap it’s head 😂😂😂😂😂 around Natasha Lyonne’s otherworldly amazing-ness…. Cannot
I was raised by Narcissists and Alcoholics, and a lot of us stay quiet because there's a very real stigma attached to saying something like "I was relieved when they died". People just refuse to accept that some people should have never been allowed to be parents.
Narcissistic personality + alcoholism
= Psycho type B cluster personality disorder.
Kudos ✨✌️👊
I'm right with you there. That sense of relief, no longer havingh to make excuses for them, no longer having to explain yourself to them, no more arguing or feeling like you'll never measure up to their expectations - the whole time, they don't even measure up to their own expectations, but you can't tell them that.
LIke Natasha said: "they weren't bad people, they were just nuts."
100% same
Ditto… No Contact for now
The more people I meet with parents like mine, the more I realise how common a sentiment that is, either ‘I can’t wait for them to die’ or ‘it was such a relief when they died’. Says it all really, they are interpersonal terrorists with variable levels of self awareness
If it's how you felt, then it's how you felt. What's truly there is to be honored. Surely, being honest about our feelings is a high form of love, just as trying to be "proper" purports to be.
I think most people are too afraid to speak this candidly about trauma, death, and distance. Natasha is amazing here. ❤
Everyone that used to do smack but quit always seem really cool
@@snicker576Once you have been to hell for an extended vacation and were able to come back home, mind you hell comes in different ways, there is knowledge, empathy and awareness gathered that make you more human than the average human.
@@cactaceous Well said
Sure, I guess. People who have suffered a lot, kind of find their own ways if they want or get better. They may suffer from similar emotions and traumas but completely different circumstances. But I sure do understand the human struggle in all categories of a perception of “living life”. No judgement here. Just love and kindness for all of us who’ve struggled.
@@cactaceousagree
I love anyone who is able to say they felt relief when their abusive relative passed. It's okay to both feel compassion for peoole but also acknowledge that they aren’t/weren’t a force for good in your life.
This, 10000%
I’m waiting on the relief I will receive and I look forward to it.
Same here. Hearing Natasha say it out loud with no joking or anything really gave me such an unexpected feeling of joy. One of my worst abusers passed suddenly last year and every day I remember that they're gone and I feel such relief and peace that they won't ever stalk me or call me or hurt me every again.
That’s a powerful observation.
❤
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Conan or any of them so quiet and just letting someone speak like this! Natasha is fascinating. I bet she has SO many good stories
I agree! I wish she would write an autobiography, I would totally read it! 🥰
What she’s saying makes so much sense to me. My mom just died a couple months ago and I was so surprised what a relief it was. She was a narcissist and really put my brother and me thru hell with the head games. Natasha is so interesting
Daughter of a narcissist here. So sorry you went through that. I get it.
Another NMom Survivor. Big support love.
I had to go through a lot to understand that my parents went through a lot.
I can listen to her for ever. She is so smart and funny and completely authentic. I loved when she talked about being consoled by Rosie Perez and Marisa Tomei and how those were the three thickest accents. Hilarious. She was also on the Smartless podcast and she was great there too.
🤗
That's some candid talk. Nicely done, I'm sure many will relate. And Conan and the rest just let her talk and respect the moment.
♥️
That kid is the Real Deal too. She's learned from the great people in her life. That's a special something to carry onto the next gen. Its true a genuine kindness goes such a long way. To be seen and to see another. RIP Paul
Miss Natasha is and has been amazing. And she looks good for 27.
Dude she isn’t 27 it was obviously a joke 😂😂😂
She's such a good guest and Conan's chemistry with her is phenomenal. I want more!
I was happy when my mom died too. People hear that, and think you're some heartless person, but if they only knew how she abused me in childhood, they'd agree with me. I don't know if my father is still alive, haven't seen him in almost 20 yrs, so I just assume he is. May as well be. And I'm happy that both of my abusive and neglectful parents are dead. I'm also happy we're in a time period where more people are understanding now, than 20 yrs ago, and earlier. When I think about the trauma my grandparents, and all of my ancestors before them suffered, I'm so grateful to live in these times, where there's healing available ❤
I can't wait for mine to die!
This woman has had the voice of a 60-year-old since she was 20, and yet, I've always had a crush on her. 😅
Same here
Get in line
She smoked until very recently. I hope that her voice recovers.
I love her voice ❤
Its not just the smoking. She just has a lower, raspy voice
as a red head with bangs who's goal after college was to join the CIA raised by abusive alcohol parents, I can't believe I've lived my whole life in Natasha lyonnes shadow
She's so beautiful and smart and relatable. I did not know this about her upbringing and as someone who had narc parents I love her for talking about this so earnestly.
In a way this reminds me of the book/memoir "I'm Glad My Mom Died" by Jennette McCurdy! Should definitely talk to her, she talks in her book many times how much she LOVED watching Conan OBrien on TV, and fake sleeping when Jay was on 😂
I actually just finished that book, so I can 100% agree with you on this observation.
She was actually on Andy Richter's podcast (3 Qs)!!
RAJIT - I just listened to the episode, Andy ricter is also a hell of an interviewer! It's also an awesome show and did a great job
@@dianeblumenthal5951 would you recommend it? I was relieved when I heard of the book and the book title, like, finally, someone's talking...
I so related to the hypervigilance part. I also thought i should be in the CIA due to how i can read a room, read people and their state of emotion with usual accuracy. Its a little exhausting but i have to say does come in handy sometimes.
I didn't know there was DSM diagnosis for "Generalize Anxiety Disorder". I just I was "high strung" like my father
This woman is amazing!!! Can we also talk about what a superior interviewer and host Conan is?!!! This was awesome. 👏🏾 🤩🫶🏾🥰 Well done!
he has depression so he has an understanding
I totally get what she's saying. I always have said that I will cry tears of relief when my dad dies.
Emotional IQ❣️~ Hyper vigilance of constantly being terrified and assessing situations ☠️
😩😔🥺
Complete silence when she's telling how things were back then. She's tough. And cool. I like people who can't help but naming things how they see them. Great guest
My older sister bullied me since I was 5. My father was a dominating narcissist. My mother was codependent with my father. However, controlling when it came to me. My late husband was a bipolar, narcissist, alcoholic. I enjoy my peace now. My parents passed away 2 years ago and a big heaviness left me..relief yes but y ou can't say that to people without sounding like an awful person..but it's true. I do miss and did love them. I will never remarry. Been dominated all my life.
Came for the funny bits, stayed for the honest human message.
Love Natasha, she always makes me smile and laugh! Without fail, she has the courage to be vulnerable.
The only good thing to come from trauma for me is being able to see & feel in ways lots of ppl can't.
I hope Natasha does a biography. Her story could be healing for others, it could be relatable to so many people.
I get what she’s saying about her friends kids, I do everything for my kids and I’m so overprotective and now that they’re a little older I realized I did wrong because they are overly dependent on me and have too many fears
Love to see someone speak honestly and with understanding about childhood trauma. It’s a long and hard journey. Been working on it myself
Same. I heard back a few years ago that my abusive mother finally got the cancer that she chain smoked so hard for. I don't know if she passed yet.
@@MsJellyBellyLove I'm waiting for the word from my aunt connie. Here's the thing? What's my responsibility? I wasn't there when my dad fucked my mom. Also, she allowed it. Why is it my fault?
Natasha is so New York. Glad we can claim her.
She’s absolutely incredible!
I could listen to her talk forever!
❤️
'Epigenetic footprint, or what have you' in that raspy voice is very on brand for her😂
Natasha is such a fascinating person to listen to, I wish they would put the whole unedited video out on youtube instead of these 10 minute clips.
People need to watch Poker Face, super underrated show. Being on Peacock probably hurts it a bit.
Can't wait for season 2
I have been through hell and back again and again... aint no way I'm sittin in a chair all stiff and uptight. Some of us don't need to pose or please the crowds, we know who we are, where we come from and where we're going.
Family is one of the worst things about life. Horrible parents destroy lives.
My parents were very abusive. Very cruel and perverts. They almost destroyed me but then Jesus swooped in and healed me.
Boy, do I relate!! Anyone who has had to deal with parent or parents with severe issues, especially severe mental health gets it.
We are so hyper-vigilant. Typical origin of a superhero. Messed up childhood and hero after😂😂😂😂
And she's right about the CIA; they used to pick kids with issues back in the day!
I always thought I was really insightful/hyper-aware but turns out it was just trauma 😩 lol
Love her. I’m glad she is still with us and thriving.
"If you see something, say something." Comedy gold!
It took me a month to realize I actually felt relief when my dad died. He was a very difficult man. It's a real thing to be alleviated when someone who hurt you died. People just don't talk about it.
I’ve loved this girl since American Pie. Her & Alyson Hannigan were the things I remember from that movie.
I always say, my healing began when my father died. 🙏❤️
Hugs to all my fellow childhood trauma survivors out there. ❤
Natasha is such a gem. Poker Face is extremely fun.
Kudos to her for quitting smoking. I quit twice, last time for good (I hope!) almost 10 years ago. I've heard nicotine is more addictive than heroine. So, not an easy feat. Keep it up!
Great conversation. Already loved her, love get even more now
She's great, I love her. So glad you had her on!
Emotional IQ is actually called EQ & more people need it these days ❤
Natasha is amazing… great interview. A truly funny and talented actor … Poker Face and Russian Doll are so great❤️
All of us out here who grew up in effed up homes are cheering you on, Natasha.
She should right a book about her life.
Both of my narcissistic and abusive parents are still alive (as far as I'm aware of), as well as their narcissistic counterparts (they're divorced). I don't know when or if I will find out when they die or died, but I do know that it is going to be a relief when they do, even if it's from a distance. I came into the world fighting, and I have had to every day of my life because of my parents and the abuse that they put me through. My life is finally starting to stabilize, and that gives me more clarity and distance as well, but they should have never been allowed to have children to begin with. As a child of abuse you really have to clean up the mess before you can have your own life, and have healthy relationships that fulfill you, as opposed to doing things to avoid the pain. It's a struggle and a battle, but you can definitely make it out okay. You just have to put in the work.
I want Natasha to play the great Christina Amphlett of the awesome Aussie band The Divinyls in a movie. She's perfect for the part.
I wish Russian Doll would come back. That was a great show.
Same! I didn't realize she was a writer and producer of it as well but after seeing the wit and humor when talking about dark topics I'm not surprised.
Cackaroach.
Cant even believe how articulate she is.....wow
Honestly, I would happily watch 8 hours of Conan & Natasha.
'Untreated' is the best description. That's exactly what my mum is like
She's just like her characters in real life. No wonder they feel so authentic.
this is so helpful. avoidant personality disorder...... she's brilliant and alive
I met her mother at a spa in Miami Beach in the early 2000s. She was definitely unusual
I have to agree with her. Having to make decisions for yourself made me a stronger adult. Then I probably crippled my children because I never wanted them to suffer.
Brooklyn, the Mecca
That's so interesting that her comeback was tied to her parents
Damn. That's why her character in that prsion show is so real. May pinaghuhugutan pala amp.
Natasha is one of the most real MFs in Hollywood, she's going to be a legend beyond her time.
It's funny that Natasha brings up Susan Terrell from "Fat City" because for a long time I thought the two actors were quite similar. And they're both were and are talented artists.
This women is so talented and beautiful! Hollywood is not giving her more acting(good parts) to try.
I love Natasha Lyonne!!!! Incredibly beautiful and talented and witty. Conan is obviously the goat at interviewing
i've been by my self at 15 in 1996 and always been since.
Natasha is a national treasure 😊
This was awesome ❤
Man, I related so hard as someone who has been raising myself ever since I can remember. There were even times I was parenting my own nut job untreated mom. Hyper-vigilant over everything for years. It took therapy, a cptsd diagnosis, and rehab to finally start recovering. ❤️🩹 Thank you guys for this episode.
Thanks for interesting and valuable video as always 😂
to witness her getting guttural laughs from Conan and crew; PRICELESS. Thank you for sharing.
I had no idea about her family being like that.
She’s had a really rough go of things. I’m so glad she came out on the other side and appears to be thriving now.
Her nails are pretty dang cool! :)
It's so lame that her mom was trying to talk her into getting a boob job when she was younger. Natasha's perfect and gorgeous in her natural unadulterated state. A boob job would have been an aesthetic detriment to her beauty. Would have been bad for her body (and her mom should have realized that if she cared about her at all)... it's a negative and weird head trip to put on one's daughter. Seems like that was just of many lousy things her parents probably did.
Listening to this interview was eye opening, Natasha Lyonne is an amazing person to listen to, no joke, I think my intelligence increased after this.
This was a great podcast episode. I could listen to Ms. Lyonne all day long. ♥️
Natasha is like a unicorn! Shelley Duvall was also a singularity in her time. "RUSSIAN DOLL" is excellent! Go Natasha Lyonne! GO Amy Poehler!
I love Natasha so much for many reasons and this interview just gave me yet another reason ❤
Quit with the negative crap,she's a delight of honesty!!
She's saying things here that you really need to think about.
Hell made her this way, but she's an amazingly beautiful woman. I would so love to talk to her over a cup of coffee💋
People need to talk about their trauma, when they are living.... Cant really resolve conflicts, when the other party is dead. There's only so much disassociation and "letting go" that ptsd will allow. YOU DESERVE ANSWERS...have those difficult conversations. You deserve better...and resolutions feel good.
what a serve! paused my watchthrough of poker face about midway because i loved it too much to cope with finishing it but it's been ghosting through my mind ever since whispering my eyeballs back
Red Head Reunion! great interview
Shes quite astute and articulate. I thought she was great in Slums of Beverly Hills.
Dang i think she just became my new favorite actress
i love so much her, shes so talented n so pretty. I mean really the best human and so much intelligent
Shout out to all my beautiful conflict avoiding babes 🖤
she is so, so real
She needs to play Lucille Ball in some epic biopic. Like immediately. Holy cow.!
YES !!! natasha on conan podcast !!!! Yeeeeeeeeeessss
Astonishingly articulate
She sounds like a homeless
@@danielrichardson6054More crying from the sniveling right
@@danielrichardson6054 a homeless what?
She's a smoker.@@danielrichardson6054
@@danielrichardson6054 you sound like a misogynist.
Thanks, Conan! Thanks, Natasha! 🧠
I just enjoy listening to her voice❤
❤ Natasha Lyonne
I just saw Natasha on Pee-wee's Playhouse. She looks like how one of my niece's looked when she was little. Natasha is an amazing actor. She's great in everything she does.
Dear Heavens- She had me at: 1) Just being Natasha Lyonne….2) Then Having a long term relationship with Fred Armisen ❤ (yes I know they are no longer together, still….) THEN! 3) Having a beloved caring friendship with Paul Reubens????!!! ❤ Forget it- My mind can’t even wrap it’s head 😂😂😂😂😂 around Natasha Lyonne’s otherworldly amazing-ness…. Cannot
God the "clocking things" hits me deep.
Think of it as old world damage rolling down hill through generations. We're just lucky we have the technology today to get the big picture.
Amazing in anything she's in one of the best .
Whole episodes on UA-cam, please.