Did Bipolar Disorder Render Killer Not Responsible? | Taylor Schabusiness Case Update and Analysis

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  • @50sVintage
    @50sVintage 10 місяців тому +277

    " . . . . the jury deliberated for 50 minutes before convicting Taylor of 3 charges including first degree intentional homicide. It's not clear what they did for the other 49 minutes." Priceless, Dr. Grande. One of your best ever!

    • @mleecthulhu
      @mleecthulhu 10 місяців тому +9

      😅ikr

    • @jenn1234
      @jenn1234 10 місяців тому +5

      I LOVED 😆 this whole analysis!!! 😄

    • @FFootagefetish
      @FFootagefetish 10 місяців тому +4

      😂

    • @vspec17
      @vspec17 10 місяців тому +3

      Glorious.

    • @BlackStump172
      @BlackStump172 10 місяців тому +4

      They would have filled in the paperwork , checked it and had a drink of water .

  • @arinerm1331
    @arinerm1331 10 місяців тому +122

    "It's not clear what they did for the other 49 minutes."
    Dr. Grande is savage with a straight face!

    • @mjremy2605
      @mjremy2605 10 місяців тому +1

      That was a good one, ha ha ha!!!

    • @amandalorian6002
      @amandalorian6002 10 місяців тому +2

      😂 he always is!

    • @loganfignewton
      @loganfignewton 10 місяців тому +1

      pretty inappropriate for such a horrific crime

    • @arinerm1331
      @arinerm1331 10 місяців тому +4

      @@loganfignewton "Lighten up, Frances."

    • @Somero5115
      @Somero5115 4 місяці тому

      @@loganfignewtonas opposed to the people telling theories of how she’s innocent because… reasons?

  • @pezeron24
    @pezeron24 10 місяців тому +77

    Doing meth, weed and trazodone all together and then engaging in sexual strangulation... what could go wrong?

    • @AB-un4io
      @AB-un4io 10 місяців тому

      Ikr? What a strange mix. I wish folks would stick to marijuana. Methamphetamine is, on it’s own, enough to bring on psychosis for anyone whether
      bi-polar or not. What a goblin.

    • @Draefend
      @Draefend 10 місяців тому +1

      The trazodone was to sleep after meth. Taking it at the same time would cancel the effects

    • @martindebrois1472
      @martindebrois1472 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@DraefendMeth WITH Trazodone makes you *really* high. .. It's not just for sleep. ... I mean you're just *RIPPED* .

    • @marywendelken9227
      @marywendelken9227 4 місяці тому

      It's never as simple as that with psychiatric drugs. Far from it! Each person will react differently to even a single drug, let alone when you're dealing with polydrugging. She was likely psychiatric at the time. She is also clearly mentally ill. It's sad for all.

    • @catherinehpn3613
      @catherinehpn3613 12 днів тому

      Trazadone is an old antidepressant that was found to be more effective as a sleep aid. It’s prescribed by a doctor, not a street drug.
      Doing any drug not FDA approved prescribed by a physician is foolish. Just saying.

  • @SirenaSpades
    @SirenaSpades 10 місяців тому +78

    Many people are high functioning bipolar and work hard to live a good life dispite the diagnosis.

    • @darcichambers6184
      @darcichambers6184 10 місяців тому +15

      I have bipolar 1 with phycosis. It is a constant struggle for me not to go to either extreme. What I have done to myself and others has caused me friends, family, and jobs. The history of drugs and alcohol running throughout my family tree. As well as bipolar. I've seen what happens when you mix this with abuse of either. So I've managed not to become reliant on either. In fact, I became so scared of myself that I ended up making the decision not to have kids, which was the one thing I've wanted since forever.
      So, while we might not be criminals, it's not quite an easy life. Especially if your condition is on the sever side.
      I do think that Taylor should not get off on insanity as she made the problem worse by getting on drugs.

    • @r1133rocco
      @r1133rocco 10 місяців тому

      @@darcichambers6184Thank you for sharing your story ❤ I commend you for your wise decision not to use alcohol or other substances. You will be so much healthier and happier!! Take care.

    • @markmike7933
      @markmike7933 8 місяців тому

      she had more than that. and many bi polar don't lose mom as a child and get molested also. she was probably in mental anguish so she took drugs.
      she has to be put away for life. unfortunately our medical field is in the stone age with mental health.
      some day it won't be

    • @darcichambers6184
      @darcichambers6184 8 місяців тому

      @markmike7933 Considering 25% of the American population is a victim of child abuse, trust me, there are more than a few in the bi-polar camp. I would have to go back and look at the latest reasurch, but I believe if you start showing symptoms/get diagnosed as a teen your more likely to have been sexuality abused, physically abused, or witnesses something traumatic that triggered your chance of bi-polar.

    • @Somero5115
      @Somero5115 4 місяці тому

      @@darcichambers6184compare that to shabbiness whom at no point apologized or represented any emotion past “hey Dahmner look at me too”

  • @Jenny73415
    @Jenny73415 10 місяців тому +316

    What an absolute nightmare for the victim's mother. Just absolutely horrific. Condolences to his family. 💔

    • @AnastasiaFafo
      @AnastasiaFafo 10 місяців тому +12

      So heartbreaking 💔

    • @erinthesystem9608
      @erinthesystem9608 10 місяців тому +9

      I cannot even imagine it. Yes, it is like something out of a living, waking nightmare.

    • @mnmmnm8321
      @mnmmnm8321 10 місяців тому +3

      Beyond horrific 😮

    • @martindebrois1472
      @martindebrois1472 10 місяців тому

      The mother was *hosting* people doing an illegal *SCHEDULE 3 NARCOTIC* , in her *home* . ... Actually two, with Trazodone.

    • @christa526
      @christa526 8 місяців тому +1

      We do have to remember this was a woman allowing her kid and his psychotic girlfriend to use meth in her home, right?

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 10 місяців тому +377

    When Dr Grande doesn't diagnose but only speculates, he has my full attention. 👍

    • @dazzlerweb
      @dazzlerweb 10 місяців тому +7

      Well you need clinical credentials to diagnose.

    • @dazzlerweb
      @dazzlerweb 10 місяців тому +1

      @@amberjohnson8553 many think that.

    • @paulvoorhies8821
      @paulvoorhies8821 10 місяців тому +36

      @@dazzlerweb. Pretty sure he has those. As do I. Problem is, we are never to diagnose someone whom we do not personally evaluate.

    • @dazzlerweb
      @dazzlerweb 10 місяців тому +1

      @@paulvoorhies8821 yes true, besides a clinical qual, there are other factors required for a mental health diagnosis.

    • @rachxllx2206
      @rachxllx2206 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes!
      With thanks given to the Goldwater Rule!😉

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette 10 місяців тому +297

    Lots of people have bipolar and have never murdered anyone. Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande!

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 10 місяців тому +37

      Lots of people are psychopaths and never kill anyone.

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette 10 місяців тому +11

      @@eadweard. Very true.

    • @pezeron24
      @pezeron24 10 місяців тому

      You forget she was bipolar AND on drugs AND practicing sexual choking. Pretty bad combo. Not an excuse, but I have no doubt she was totally out of her mind when she killed him. I think she belongs in a mental institution.

    • @kimberlybaldridge5767
      @kimberlybaldridge5767 10 місяців тому +19

      I am bipolar and can testify that those substances make things so much worse. But it did not quite reach chopping up my partner bad.

    • @milagrosmendez77
      @milagrosmendez77 10 місяців тому +17

      I suffer from Bipolar I and I’m very far from being a violent person. Only if physically attacked first and still try to contain myself. Never used drugs except marihuana years ago for fibromyalgia pain management and it wasn’t frequent. I can have a very sharp razor for a tongue though…

  • @Meela234
    @Meela234 10 місяців тому +60

    His poor mother finding her son like that. She has my condolences.

  • @Swampzoid
    @Swampzoid 10 місяців тому +49

    The poor mother finding that bucket. What an unimaginable nightmare for that woman.

  • @kimberlybaldridge5767
    @kimberlybaldridge5767 10 місяців тому +219

    That really sucks for the mom who found her son's severed head. How agonizing that memory must be.

    • @xtinamarie_333
      @xtinamarie_333 10 місяців тому

      His dick AND balls were in there too 🎉
      Edit: listen to the mothers 911 call. No emotions from her or her boyfriend 😞

    • @SteveBurk
      @SteveBurk 10 місяців тому

      she didn't even cry once over her sons death, od

    • @TiffWaffles
      @TiffWaffles 10 місяців тому +18

      Not to mention how traumatic it would be. The final image that she caught of her deceased son will haunt her for the rest of her life. My heart definitely goes out to her. I can't even imagine the horror and pain that this mother's in. I can't even begin to imagine how this is going to affect her daily life for the rest of her life, either.

    • @dredubz5825
      @dredubz5825 10 місяців тому +33

      @@SteveBurkwhere did you get this information? How would you know that? Many people are private mourners.

    • @auntijen3781
      @auntijen3781 10 місяців тому +15

      The only reason Shad's mom found the head so soon was bc when Taylor left, the storm door slammed & woke her up. She went to the basement & saw the bucket, covered w a towel. She thought "Were Shad & his friends peeing in this bucket?" And she lifted the towel to look. O M G! Can't even imagine!

  • @justsomelovelylady
    @justsomelovelylady 10 місяців тому +42

    As disgusting as her acts were, I do have to say I feel bad for her life. Losing a mom, brother, and having a pervert dad would be difficult. It doesn’t take away what she did but wish life would have been different for her.

    • @Job.Well.Done_01
      @Job.Well.Done_01 10 місяців тому +10

      You’re clearly an amazing person.
      I love this comment ❤

    • @angelareese390
      @angelareese390 10 місяців тому +10

      agree. what she did was monstrous to say the least. but this woman's life shows tremendous amounts of suffering as well.

    • @FriedChairs
      @FriedChairs 3 місяці тому

      I think the same way. She was dealt a really bad hand in life. It seems clear to me that she has a history of poor mental health. I hope she’s able to become more mentally healthy while in jail.

  • @wilhelmhagberg4897
    @wilhelmhagberg4897 10 місяців тому +214

    It’s very disturbing how mental health professional witnesses always come up with different conclusions depending on who hires them. The courts should have their own groups of unbiased mental health professionals and put an end to this corrupted system.

    • @RichardsWorld
      @RichardsWorld 10 місяців тому +20

      Yes, medical opinions for cash.

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox 10 місяців тому +18

      Rent an expert is a well played game in US courts. More money more experts . I agree with you.

    • @coolran06
      @coolran06 10 місяців тому +19

      A diagnosis is a very complicated and sometimes elusive to pin point, along with drug use which in itself can/ will lead to a misdiagnosis.

    • @annechris2677
      @annechris2677 10 місяців тому +3

      100 percent . What is is that The US courts dont understabd

    • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
      @LukeSumIpsePatremTe 10 місяців тому +1

      No need for bias. Just go through dozen professionals and keep the one who's opinion is most favourable. You know, like a Texas sharpshooter.

  • @kirstena4001
    @kirstena4001 10 місяців тому +42

    i watched her dad's testimony. He was so insistant she had a "normal" teenage experience, only getting into "regular" difficulties. Even when discussing her stays in mental health facilities, her s*lf-harm thoughts, and sending her away to live with her grandparents, to him it was just ordinary teenage situations. Very odd.

    • @texasrefugee7888
      @texasrefugee7888 10 місяців тому +5

      When I was watching that with her dad. I was kind of thinking he was a tweaker.

    • @MaggieMay757
      @MaggieMay757 10 місяців тому +5

      Guilty conscience.

    • @milesgeary6358
      @milesgeary6358 10 місяців тому

      ​@@texasrefugee7888
      Her father is a convicted child molester. He may very well have been abusing her.

    • @brendasmart553
      @brendasmart553 10 місяців тому +4

      Had you noticed he was handcuffed & in an orange prisoner jumpsuit too?

  • @mikiharkin3539
    @mikiharkin3539 10 місяців тому +17

    Love your sense of humor. “It’s nothing personal, it’s just shabusiness!” You’re great, Dr, Grande❤

  • @lindawilson4625
    @lindawilson4625 10 місяців тому +335

    She has a mental illness, but is very responsible for what she did. Some people need to be in a cage and she is one of them. Thanks for the update!

    • @ItsJustJessOkay
      @ItsJustJessOkay 10 місяців тому +5

      What's the difference between being alive in a cage and being dead in the ground? What she needs is intensive mental health and substance abuse treatment.

    • @Sinsteel
      @Sinsteel 10 місяців тому +13

      I agree, she's not in complete control of her mind, and is obviously mentally ill, but that doesn't make her completely unable to control herself.

    • @MK-cc5ve
      @MK-cc5ve 10 місяців тому +11

      @@ItsJustJessOkay Intensive mental health and substance abuse treatment might help, but I doubt it would ever get her into normal. Sounds like she was ripped off by both nature and nurture, inherited poor mental health and lived in an unhealthy family, mother died early of alcoholism etc. she was in court while her husband and her father are in jail. Bad odds.

    • @Mistyb118
      @Mistyb118 10 місяців тому +3

      Was her trial televised?

    • @sullivanknoth6430
      @sullivanknoth6430 10 місяців тому +14

      @@ItsJustJessOkay she doesn't deserve either of those things. her crime is so heinous, that it demands the maximum punishment.

  • @grumpyoldlady_rants
    @grumpyoldlady_rants 10 місяців тому +201

    Meth can definitely cause people to become violent. My husband and I had hired a painter to paint our house. He was really clean cut and friendly but both us of us just felt there was something “off” about him. Turns out he was a meth addict but had been in recovery for awhile.
    Well, a few years later he was arrested for a triple homicide. First, he murdered a woman and tried dismembering her body then dumped her in a pond. Then he killed two men because they knew he had killed the woman. He went on the run and was finally caught. As he was being led into the police station, a reporter asked him why he did it and he simply said “Meth”.

    • @texasrefugee7888
      @texasrefugee7888 10 місяців тому +26

      I agree totally! Tweakers are absolutely insane and they get worse the more and longer they do it.
      I lived in a small town in colorado Is kinda famous for tweekers. The cops busted this college boy for steroids in a neighboring city. The cops told him they would go easy on him and let him off if he would go be an informant undercover in my town. Well, he didn't last long. They figured him out real quick. And they found him up on a trail behind my house with his throat cut. My best friend from elementary school got on that was on it for years, went to prison over it and Then still did it when she was on parole. She had bullet holes in her car, she had some of her tweak friends dognap her pet for ransom. I would tell her your life is so out of control. You're going to get busted, what are you doing? She would say no, the cops love me😂 They get so delusional

    • @austyn5004
      @austyn5004 10 місяців тому

      The meth is different now than it was even a few years ago. I’ve never touched it, but I read an article in (I believe) the LA times about how the chemical makeup of the meth now isn’t actually meth anymore. It’s “super” meth. It induces a permanent psychosis and is even more deadly.

    • @xtinamarie_333
      @xtinamarie_333 10 місяців тому +39

      That's methed up 😮

    • @kittyhazes5741
      @kittyhazes5741 10 місяців тому +7

      OMG!!!!

    • @debratorres5299
      @debratorres5299 10 місяців тому +11

      Wow, I'm sure that was disturbing for you since you had dealt with him!

  • @AceMitten99
    @AceMitten99 10 місяців тому +100

    I fell outta my chair ROTFL when he said “Crime was her game and schabusiness was booming” and “getting drugs was the first order of schabusiness” Love the puns keep it up Dr. Grande

    • @CuzKatieSaysSo
      @CuzKatieSaysSo 10 місяців тому +4

      I'm kinda pleased with what I came up with
      🎶🎶There's No Business like Schabusiness like No Schabusiness I know! Do you think she'll ever be appealing? 🎵 Every charge that judge will allow 🎶
      Nowhere but prison could you get that happy feeling 🎵
      When you are counting those extra years without parole 🎵🎵
      So on! On with the Scha!!

    • @darcymoon2109
      @darcymoon2109 10 місяців тому +3

      Schabusiness was booming hahaha

    • @xtinamarie_333
      @xtinamarie_333 10 місяців тому +2

      It's hard not to make comedic comments here!!

    • @staceface88
      @staceface88 10 місяців тому +3

      I can’t 😂

    • @mjremy2605
      @mjremy2605 10 місяців тому +2

      A few too many puns. It sounded contrived.

  • @AnastasiaFafo
    @AnastasiaFafo 10 місяців тому +148

    This is one of the most disturbing cases I have ever heard. She deserves to rot in jail. Thank you, Dr. Grande.

    • @Jennifermcintyre
      @Jennifermcintyre 10 місяців тому +6

      Truly horrific! She even borrowed her roommates van to transport body parts… right along side a baby stroller 😳

    • @Matchaddict82
      @Matchaddict82 10 місяців тому +10

      @@Skyler_xxxPDshe had s*x with the body I think that’s more disturbing

    • @yayger825
      @yayger825 10 місяців тому +1

      But you are aware she is just a woman right?

    • @Jennifermcintyre
      @Jennifermcintyre 10 місяців тому +10

      @@yayger825 what are you talking about?

    • @Matchaddict82
      @Matchaddict82 10 місяців тому

      @@Jennifermcintyre some people are just idiots with zero brain cells in these comments

  • @justyna5924
    @justyna5924 10 місяців тому +28

    I am bipolar. Once in the club someone gave me drugs in the drink. I went crazy. I thought my boyfriend is planning to kill me. I was very violent with him and scratch his face. In my mind I was fighting for my life. God bless him that he didn't leave me that night ❤

  • @samanthaw.861
    @samanthaw.861 10 місяців тому +18

    It’s now gotten to the point to where I hear about a major crime story and think “Oh man, I can’t wait for Dr. Grande to speculate about a situation like this.”

  • @emilyflotilla931
    @emilyflotilla931 10 місяців тому +95

    Let's not overlook her Jeffrey Dahmer searches for photos. She's a dangerous woman, regardless of her mindset, and has no place out in society. I hope if mental illness raises its head on her, she'll at least get a modicum of help in prison.

    • @GGiblet
      @GGiblet 10 місяців тому +3

      And her comments about killing what she loves. I was amazed they didn't run with that in the interrogation.

    • @SocialExperiment232
      @SocialExperiment232 10 місяців тому +5

      That’s what I always say. Some people just dead ser on defending the killers and it’s like… ok what’s if we wanted to “understand” them… what are we gonna do with them? Do they wanna take her home? Probably not. So who they gonna make responsible for her? They don’t belong in society. Think of the possible victims and just get rid of them.

    • @mysterym7008
      @mysterym7008 10 місяців тому

      See the thing is you've never done copious amounts of drugs in a small setting and had PTSD and thought your boyfriend was a clone. Until you go through that you can't really understand. I feel bad for her. She's definitely in another world, very scary shit.

    • @Billy.Ripken
      @Billy.Ripken 10 місяців тому

      @@mysterym7008u can’t be serious

    • @StellaFl
      @StellaFl 10 місяців тому

      @@mysterym7008 Who thought her bf was a clone?

  • @aquarius5461
    @aquarius5461 10 місяців тому +56

    Oh my goodness I have been watching some of this horrendous case. This woman is cold calculating and evil. You could see the delight on her face as she viewed the photographs!! As if she was proud of her handy work!!! Thanks Dr grande.

    • @pezeron24
      @pezeron24 10 місяців тому

      No, she is not cold and calculating. She has a history of mental illness starting at age 7 and was under the influence of methamphetamine when she killed him. This is not cold, calculated behavior. This is deranged behavior.

    • @TiffWaffles
      @TiffWaffles 10 місяців тому +7

      She is proud of her handiwork. You can definitely tell that by how she's reacting and the way she's conducting herself. Mental illness isn't even an excuse here. She's evil. Plain and simple.

  • @cabooseabs6864
    @cabooseabs6864 10 місяців тому +115

    I'm looking forward to more shabusiness puns. Please don't disappoint.
    Edit: I wasn't disappointed. On a side note, speed use can cause some people to become hypersxl as well. Through a combination of all her MH issues and substance abuse, she started pulling on the chain and didn't want to stop because she'd fantasized about not stopping before and she was enjoying it. Still 100% responsible and deserves way worse than what she'll get.

    • @johnnymidnight2982
      @johnnymidnight2982 10 місяців тому +22

      Those puns are nunya schabusiness.

    • @TeaSpiracy
      @TeaSpiracy 10 місяців тому +11

      The best one I saw was "She didn't like her last Lawyer. Better call the better Schabusiness beauru"

    • @leeann4743
      @leeann4743 10 місяців тому +2

      There's no schabusiness like schabusiness...

    • @meriamhansen9089
      @meriamhansen9089 10 місяців тому +6

      Where did she come up with that last name and why?

    • @discospiders
      @discospiders 10 місяців тому +2

      Dr Grande did not disappoint! 😂

  • @purplerain2314
    @purplerain2314 10 місяців тому +25

    Illicit drugs aren't a good idea when you're already a loose cannon. Like throwing a gallon of gas on an already raging bonfire.

  • @MyEnemy
    @MyEnemy 10 місяців тому +54

    It'd be like a drunk driver hitting someone and saying "But I was drunk, I can't be held responsible."

    • @simonw1313
      @simonw1313 10 місяців тому +1

      Not if she was in a state of psychosis - the it would be more like "I blacked out and can't be held responsible."

    • @Bibiana862
      @Bibiana862 10 місяців тому

      @@simonw1313 she has psychozis because of drugs

    • @harley8680
      @harley8680 10 місяців тому +1

      @@simonw1313 if she had stayed on her medications she would not have had that happen.

    • @alistairallen829
      @alistairallen829 10 місяців тому +2

      Not a great analogy, and I don't say that because you are my enemy, I do not know you. Someone that drinks and drives makes that choice, mental illness doesn't give you a choice, it's genetic and in many cases inherited.

    • @mariya_tortilla
      @mariya_tortilla 8 місяців тому +1

      well having psychosis isnt a choice lol

  • @marycahill546
    @marycahill546 10 місяців тому +170

    Canadian retired forensic nurse here. Increasingly we are seeing people who may or may not have a major mental illness using drugs like crystal meth which cause psychosis. What to make of the crimes they commit when stoned? Are they criminally responsible or not? I believe if she had not been on drugs no one would have died -- she is responsible because she voluntarily took illegal drugs.

    • @donprice9050
      @donprice9050 10 місяців тому

      Of course Mary you know our supreme court recently allowed alcohol consumption to be used as a defence for murder. That means 99% of Canadians can get away with murder!

    • @jennajewert
      @jennajewert 10 місяців тому +15

      She was mentally ill as a kid. Very sad case.😢

    • @bartfart3847
      @bartfart3847 10 місяців тому +22

      Many Many people who have undiagnosed or ignored mental illness, begin to and continue to take illegal drugs to cope. This is what happened to her.The system and her family failed her.
      Im GLAD you are retired. Your lack of compassion is sickening. I bet you would probably blame a sex worker Rape victim for being a prostitute.

    • @creagle26
      @creagle26 10 місяців тому +13

      Drugs had nothing to do with it. She's evil. Look at her reactions in court

    • @nillieable
      @nillieable 10 місяців тому

      Aww...the people have sympathy for the criminal here. Not for the victim or the family.
      You morons, you may be dying, but that doesn't give you a right to hurt others. The sense of entertainment and victimhood in you morons is astonishing.

  • @dessib5338
    @dessib5338 10 місяців тому +12

    “It’s unclear what they did the other 49 minutes.” His witty comments are a big reason I follow this channel 😂

  • @marikotrue3488
    @marikotrue3488 10 місяців тому +23

    I agree with the jury's verdict of guilty and the verdict that this case did not fit the legal definition of insanity. With a medical history of severe instability since age 14, this woman is the product of many failures; institutional, medical and familial. While this case is obviously extreme, it illustrates what the lack of proper medical care along with inadequate support by family and school can produce. The result is not pleasant and the ripple effect is worse.

  • @OneMan-wl1wj
    @OneMan-wl1wj 10 місяців тому +13

    "There's no business like shabusiness!" was so clever and amusing that even Doc had to snatch it.

  • @TheDealMaster
    @TheDealMaster 10 місяців тому +34

    Schabusiness is a very disturbed individual. And the drugs just enhanced all of that. What a messed up trial. I watched from beginning to end. The judge was great. I feel bad for the defense attorney, though. He didn't stand a chance! Thank you, Dr. Grande.

    • @egkash
      @egkash 10 місяців тому

      I also watched the trial. And your opinion about the defense lawyer seems very common. But I was surprised almost no one commented anything negative about him. I get it it’s his job but I found him incredibly irritating. He was rude, misleading and dishonest, “respectfully” was thrown a lot followed by what I mentioned. He is very good at gaslighting.

    • @Helga-fe5xl
      @Helga-fe5xl 10 місяців тому

      They make money off defending people like her, don't feel too bad

  • @nillieable
    @nillieable 10 місяців тому +47

    The mental illness should be the second concern. The first concern should be whether or not the individual is a danger to the society.

    • @simonw1313
      @simonw1313 10 місяців тому +9

      Even in the case of someone adjudged to have been in a state of psychosis during a murder and not criminally responsible the safety of the public at large will be a major concern.

    • @LukeSumIpsePatremTe
      @LukeSumIpsePatremTe 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@simonw1313
      Sure, but prison is not the right place for them. Mental health institution may be.

    • @simonw1313
      @simonw1313 10 місяців тому +4

      @@LukeSumIpsePatremTe - she's probably a risk to herself, other prisoners and prison staff in prison.

    • @Cinder_311
      @Cinder_311 10 місяців тому

      ​@@LukeSumIpsePatremTeSHE belongs in Prison

    • @steveshea6148
      @steveshea6148 10 місяців тому +1

      (b) is clear

  • @melmac685
    @melmac685 10 місяців тому +17

    Taylor KNEW right from wrong when she said "I effed up by leaving the bucket" in LE interview, just saying...

  • @ginabuffaloe7534
    @ginabuffaloe7534 10 місяців тому +77

    Her thoughts were disorganized, her actions and this terrible homicide was disorganized. Her presentation in trial was unstable and distracted. Clearly she is very sick. Regardless she is dangerous and belongs in a controlled environment whether prison or a locked criminal unit.

    • @popeye5274
      @popeye5274 10 місяців тому

      She deserves more than that. Her brain is rotten.

    • @Cinder_311
      @Cinder_311 10 місяців тому

      DP

    • @ndi4926
      @ndi4926 10 місяців тому +6

      ...and you left his head in the bucket and his leg in the sink after murdering him. How do you plead?
      Kinda disorganized, you honor.
      Not guilty.

    • @StellaFl
      @StellaFl 10 місяців тому +4

      I'd say cutting up and skinning a body without leaving much blood evidence all over the place qualifies as pretty organized. And her charade during the trials ended sharply at the exact moment the 2nd verdict was read. * cue the "crazy" out *

    • @christophersambuco9414
      @christophersambuco9414 10 місяців тому

      I think that this is one of the extreme instances which would justify being put to death.
      Rid the earth of an unfortunately horribly damaged person who is extremely dangerous to the people in her reach.

  • @francinestone
    @francinestone 10 місяців тому +17

    Dr. Grande, you crack me up every time! What a great sense of humor you have. Especially because you deliver the jokes in your same monotones, speaking voice. Keep up the good work!

  • @freshfalcon3996
    @freshfalcon3996 10 місяців тому +33

    I'd love if you could analyze her defence lawyer. He seemed genuinely disgusted that he had to defend her.

    • @lauriecooper7520
      @lauriecooper7520 10 місяців тому +6

      I can totally understand that. Also, there was no way to defend her actions. People who commit (& enjoy) such sickeningly, shocking crimes, while also delighting in recalling their sick & twisted acts, I believe have been taken over by true evil. It’s as if their minds aren’t human anymore. How can anyone derive that much pleasure from such unthinkable, heinous wickedness??

    • @freshfalcon3996
      @freshfalcon3996 10 місяців тому +6

      @@lauriecooper7520 I know what you mean. It's almost not even evil because there's no choice involved...they're driven by a sick mind totally disconnected from humanity and reality.

    • @wordsleuth992
      @wordsleuth992 10 місяців тому +7

      i disagree. I think he feels concern and empathy for her. I just watched his interview after the trial and he seems to genuinely care that she is very ill

    • @angelareese390
      @angelareese390 10 місяців тому +3

      on another thread someone wrote the same thing noting the attorney did just enough defense that she couldn't appeal stating ineffective counsel & I truly believe that's correct.

    • @angelareese390
      @angelareese390 10 місяців тому

      @pamelab3087 after reading your comment, I watched a video of an interview with him & I def agree & see what youre saying, he does seem to genuinely care for her mental health & absolutely did his best for her.

  • @gina_latte
    @gina_latte 10 місяців тому +14

    Thanks for getting to the Schabusiness at hand, Dr. Grande!!
    You did not disappoint!

  • @Jennifermcintyre
    @Jennifermcintyre 10 місяців тому +57

    Before I even knew that her father was in prison for 12 years for SA against children.. I had thought that she may have been SA as a child.. her hyper sexuality reminds me of how many people end up after that kind of abuse. Hate to think her father had anything to do with it.

    • @wordsleuth992
      @wordsleuth992 10 місяців тому +8

      i wondered what he was in prison for. Her hyper sexuality could be from childhood abuse or from being in a manic state…

    • @Jennifermcintyre
      @Jennifermcintyre 10 місяців тому +12

      @@wordsleuth992 what’s scary is he allegedly SA his most recent wife’s daughters.. he was arrested and naturally she divorced him. So… it’s not a huge jump to imagine he might have done something to Taylor. Taylor’s mom died of cirrhosis of her liver from severe alcoholism when she was 11. Who knows what drove the mom to drink and what happened after the mom died! Obviously just a theory but I had to imagine something bad happened to Taylor..

    • @annechris2677
      @annechris2677 10 місяців тому

      Her father raped her? Is he tried?

    • @Sleepparalysisdemon2
      @Sleepparalysisdemon2 10 місяців тому

      Hyper sexuality is a symptom of bi polar disorder when in a manic state.

  • @simonefeaster5131
    @simonefeaster5131 10 місяців тому +10

    While it is clear that you are a master of the pun, this was next level. 😂 Tip of the hat, Dr. Grande!

  • @egretion
    @egretion 10 місяців тому +49

    My son has been diagnosed with bipolar since he was 12 and he. Very aware that he is responsible for his health. To my way of thinking, the fact that she had such a serious diagnosis for so many years and was non compliant makes her even more culpable

    • @lf9341
      @lf9341 10 місяців тому +3

      She seems more like a sadist or psychopath than someone with bipolar. I have known many people with bipolar use illegal drugs and they don't do anything crazy. She was aware.

    • @angeleyes3396
      @angeleyes3396 10 місяців тому +2

      I agree. I feel like if you are made aware and refuse to comply with treatment - the mental illness plea should be put the window…you are willfully responsible for your actions afterwards

    • @shellibelli4387
      @shellibelli4387 10 місяців тому +2

      @egretchen. Your family is so lucky your son was diagnosed early. I wish you all the best.

    • @clicheguevara5282
      @clicheguevara5282 10 місяців тому +5

      I'm not _at all_ here to defend her, but judging one person's mental illness through the lens of another person's mental illness is almost pointless. Mental disorders affect everyone differently. My brothers and I grew up in the same environment and have many of the same mental health challenges but we had VERY different outcomes in our lives. They became criminals and junkies and I moved to a small town in Hawaii to live a quiet life.
      In my world, we have a saying: "If you've met one autistic person, then you've met one autistic person." Like autism, many mental disorders are on a wide spectrum.
      Also, isn't expecting a psychotic, mentally ill drug addict to be rational and responsible about their mental health is a bit of an oxymoron? Lmao
      Having said all that, she should be locked away for the rest of her life. She has no place in society whether this was her "fault" or not.

    • @wordsleuth992
      @wordsleuth992 10 місяців тому +3

      @@clicheguevara5282you don’t think she should be allowed treatment and a chance to get better?? wouldn’t treatment be better than “locking her away”? I’m not saying let her out- but don’t you think she should get the help she so clearly needs??

  • @staceyplaysthebassey
    @staceyplaysthebassey 10 місяців тому +7

    "It's not clear what they did for the other 49 minutes." 😂 I absolutely love your hidden jokes.

  • @Seven_1865
    @Seven_1865 10 місяців тому +8

    How dare you try to diagnose Taylor!? It’s clearly none of Schabusiness!

  • @lamy8224
    @lamy8224 10 місяців тому +10

    First order of schabusiness...lol! I love your subtle roasts

  • @glendasully
    @glendasully 10 місяців тому +15

    She's pure evil & took great pleasure in what she did to Shad's body. His poor Mom. How awful

  • @goldiesamarripa4824
    @goldiesamarripa4824 10 місяців тому +17

    Her background was volatile and appears her mental illness is in full manifestation. I believe there is a fine line for a defendant to be considered for a mental institution or prison as a former parole officer.

  • @ahill4642
    @ahill4642 10 місяців тому +9

    ah Dr. Grande, thank you for “crime was her game and business was schabooming.” I really needed that and I was counting on it when I came here. ☺️ Thank goodness for comic relief.
    edited to add: hoo-wee! Dr. Grande is on fire with the pun-slinging tonight! 🤣 I picture his wife cracking up in the background and he has to keep editing out her laughter. ☺️

  • @phylly5576
    @phylly5576 10 місяців тому +22

    I appreciate your insights. I tried to watch this trial but could not. The heinous nature of the murder and her demeanor really was so upsetting to me. I can remember a time when we put the mentally ill in institutions to protect not only that person but to protect others.
    Final thought: Meth, not even once.

  • @nathangillmore5064
    @nathangillmore5064 10 місяців тому +2

    Before I even fired up this video, I knew Dr. Grande's trademark humor would be in full effect. I wasn't disappointed. Bravo, sir!

  • @AntyTiff
    @AntyTiff 10 місяців тому +16

    She changed her name?! I had been thinking, “Poor girl, probably got made fun of all the time as a child.” Why would anyone change their name to Shabusiness? (No offense to anyone else out there who has that name.)

    • @asquare9316
      @asquare9316 10 місяців тому +4

      apparently both she and her husband changed their last name to that

    • @Jessica-uv9sp
      @Jessica-uv9sp 10 місяців тому

      Meth head moment

    • @ejaime9125
      @ejaime9125 10 місяців тому

      Her husband's last name is Shabow. They later changed it to Shabusiness.

  • @jennifer1996xxxx
    @jennifer1996xxxx 10 місяців тому +18

    Dr. Grande, you are literally my only source of news. You're all we need! Thank you so much for the continued insight.

  • @susanmann5286
    @susanmann5286 10 місяців тому +10

    I was acquainted with two people who murdered and dismembered someone. I knew the three of them. I once mentioned in a comment that Dr. Grande might want to cover this. When I heard this happened I became very physically ill. It took me a while to come to terms with it. It was impossible to comprehend what happened. Now, it seems I am hearing about it more and more. As a mother, I can't, (and don't want to) imagine what this woman felt like, finding her son's head.

    • @simonw1313
      @simonw1313 10 місяців тому

      Seems you were just lucky to know so many dismemberers are they are not that common ... unless you watch a lot of crime porn.

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 10 місяців тому +40

    We will always support Dr Grande. He’s certainly one of the best.

  • @megandolimpio6579
    @megandolimpio6579 10 місяців тому +11

    Thank you Dr. Grand, for satisfying my extreme desire to use her name in as many puns as humanly possible

  • @CuzKatieSaysSo
    @CuzKatieSaysSo 10 місяців тому +9

    A side effect of Trazadone is hallucinations. I know this is true because it happened to me. I was prescribed it as a muscle relaxant.
    Add Trazadone to meth and what could that have done to her brain?

  • @aprilcanipe2614
    @aprilcanipe2614 10 місяців тому +11

    I hope shads mother can find peace. I can't imagine finding your son in that condition. A true nightmare.

    • @simonw1313
      @simonw1313 10 місяців тому +1

      Hopefully she won't lose her head over it.

  • @Front_Pockets
    @Front_Pockets 10 місяців тому +3

    I lie in wait for the gracious gift of a new video from his majesty Dr. Todd Grande. I knew you would make a video on this trial, you never disappoint. All Schabusiness jokes delivered with laser accuracy and precision like a masterpiece and it does not go unnoticed. We are not worthy of your greatness and cannot live with you. I love you.

  • @sharri115
    @sharri115 10 місяців тому +5

    The defense mental health professional was next level! I would love a video just on her alone! “I don’t need to give fancy tests!” “That woman is psychotic!”

  • @texasrefugee7888
    @texasrefugee7888 10 місяців тому +21

    I think it was more methamphetamine and drug use than bipolar. I've said for years since watching my best friend go on that stuff to run screaming from tweakers. They'll do in their own mother.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 10 місяців тому +1

      Couldn't agree more. Anyone on meth can do these horrible things. She claimed she did 30 hits of meth. That'll do it!

    • @noorrr877
      @noorrr877 10 місяців тому

      I briefly worked as a therapist in a jail and someone was booked for r*ping their own mother! Terrifying.

    • @jrawsadam
      @jrawsadam 10 місяців тому

      ​@@noorrr877while on meth? Or were they sober and mentally deranged? So messed up either way. Just trying to see the connection to the original comment.

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 10 місяців тому +5

    Taylor should have minded her own Schabusiness. Have a great weekend Dr. Grande.

  • @overzealouseuthanasiast9731
    @overzealouseuthanasiast9731 10 місяців тому +12

    The horror of her crimes combined with the vast goldmine of puns encouraged by her last name is a precarious tightrope to walk, but god damn, it ain't gonna walk itself!

  • @Jdat1212
    @Jdat1212 10 місяців тому +12

    I don’t think she’s smirking I think she’s scrunching her face. She’s confused. Doesn’t matter. Never let her out!

    • @raemackinnon
      @raemackinnon 10 місяців тому

      That's only one picture.

    • @jadelenton5285
      @jadelenton5285 10 місяців тому

      She was confused about schabusiness

  • @TracyC88
    @TracyC88 10 місяців тому +5

    I don't believe she dismembered the victim to hide what she had done. Taylor said the killing happened within 5 minutes after they got to the basement, which sounds like premeditation to me. She has an attraction to Dahmer and his gruesome crimes. She cuddled with and skinned this man, took every organ out of his body, and performed sex acts (aka necrophilia, which was oddly never mentioned). She performed a typical Dahmer killing due to her attraction to Dahmer and his crimes.

  • @sarazink2237
    @sarazink2237 10 місяців тому +3

    This is not a laughing matter in the slightest but I’m sorry I couldn’t help it every time you made a ‘Shabusiness’ reference it cracked me up🤣🥴 sometimes things are so tragic a lil lighthearted humor is refreshing! Prayers for the family.!🕊️

  • @vaneast411
    @vaneast411 10 місяців тому +12

    Taylor showed disturbing signs of having enjoyed what she had done...
    very sad situation for Shad's mother and those that loved him...

  • @lexisdw
    @lexisdw 10 місяців тому +7

    Dr Grande lifts me up on bad days. He seems like such a wise and compassionate person.

  • @NigelJackson
    @NigelJackson 10 місяців тому +4

    The moral of this grim crime...never mix Schapleasure with Schabusiness 😐

  • @tlw842
    @tlw842 10 місяців тому +27

    My father-in-law had bipolar. I would never risk turning my back on him. The man was capable of doing anything, despite being elderly. Sure a lot of bipolar people are harmless. But there some who have no inhibitions and are capable of doing anything when they are in a manic cycle. The odd thing is that my father-in-law (who is now long passed) could straighten up immediately if the police showed up when he was acting out.

  • @craigfinnegan8534
    @craigfinnegan8534 10 місяців тому +6

    Drug abuse as a mitigating factor for murder is like rage or greed as a mitigating factor for murder. People who buy into it need to look at their own mental health.

  • @MDWD
    @MDWD 10 місяців тому +5

    What a very sick sick lady. She should never see the light of day. Txs Dr.Grande. Have a great weekend

  • @shawnnewell4541
    @shawnnewell4541 10 місяців тому +3

    I have the same diagnosis as her but no drug use history. I think it's the drug use that's messed everything up for her and others.

  • @PetalPalmer
    @PetalPalmer 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for covering this case, I was hoping to learn more about it but haven’t been able to look into it yet. What she did to Shad was absolutely deplorable and she needs to be held accountable for it.

  • @coldstoli1
    @coldstoli1 10 місяців тому +2

    Just focusing on the delivery not the puns themselves. Grande is sublime. The pause, the non-affective expression, the lack of smug aftermath. Perfect.

    • @jeffstryker4875
      @jeffstryker4875 10 місяців тому

      I’d love to have a couple beers with Dr. Grande. He seems like a totally cool guy.

  • @mollyringwerm9224
    @mollyringwerm9224 10 місяців тому +6

    "getting drugs appeared to be the first order of Schabusiness" elicited a spontaneous cackle from me

  • @michelleayres5608
    @michelleayres5608 10 місяців тому +5

    Thank you, Dr. Grande. My condolences to his family.

  • @jacksconsumer
    @jacksconsumer 10 місяців тому +8

    "crime was her game and Shabusiness was booming" 😂

  • @aprilcaricchio4309
    @aprilcaricchio4309 10 місяців тому +2

    That poor mother. How sad.

  • @4and20blackbirds
    @4and20blackbirds 10 місяців тому +4

    imagine being some random mom of 3 in Wisconsin and then you’re in a court room with people addressing a defendant named Ms. Schabusiness who decapitated your son. what the hell is even that

  • @adnanaliable
    @adnanaliable 10 місяців тому +9

    "getting drugs was the first thing in shabusiness" lol dr Grande you are so funny.

    • @hetmanjz
      @hetmanjz 10 місяців тому +3

      First *order* of schabusiness.

  • @Boss_Lady.325
    @Boss_Lady.325 9 місяців тому +1

    I absolutely ADORE your analysis! All of them. Not to mention the way you slip your quips of your very dry humor absolutely make me laugh out loud!! Thats your shabusiness and never stop!!!❤❤❤

  • @jennajewert
    @jennajewert 10 місяців тому +30

    She seems pretty antisocial. On a rampage or something. Total menace. She's absolutely responsible for her actions. What a dark situation.

    • @milesbbop9563
      @milesbbop9563 10 місяців тому +1

      crack will make you snap.

  • @AmandaLeigh1004
    @AmandaLeigh1004 10 місяців тому +5

    I watched the closing arguments and verdict watch live, I was thinking "it probably took the jurors longer to choose a foreperson than it did to come to a decision in this case."

  • @tapoemt3995
    @tapoemt3995 10 місяців тому +24

    Darlene from Rosanne hasn't aged well...
    She stated she doesn't like open spaces? Boy have we got good news for you!

  • @edwardwong654
    @edwardwong654 10 місяців тому +3

    If this is not a case of insanity, then I can't imagine what is?

  • @F1derful.
    @F1derful. 10 місяців тому +4

    Dr Grande I have a suggestion for your next video: Can you please analyze the recent congress hearing with the ufo whistleblower David Grusch

  • @SEBE3835
    @SEBE3835 10 місяців тому +4

    Although I totally agree with the verdict I can't help but wondering why we should conclude from her conduct during her confessions (upfront, organized thinking, moral sense) that she was not mentally ill.
    When I saw that I noticed immature inappropriate behaviour. Very shallow, no emotions of fear, disgust, sadness, shame or guilt. Not someone who looked sane at all to me.
    Without meth in the mix the outcome would have been different I guess? (but maybe this all would not have happened, I know).

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 10 місяців тому +2

      I agree. I don't think it would have happened if she hadn't done 30 hits of meth that night. That is a lot of meth.

  • @californiadreamer2580
    @californiadreamer2580 10 місяців тому +7

    According to trial testimony from one of the experts, she admitted " huffing nail polish remover regularly when she was 13. It's unlikely that was all she had been doing.

    • @dwinthrop1015
      @dwinthrop1015 10 місяців тому

      Inhalant abuse in youth can cause permanent effects. That’s a big red flag by itself.

  • @taccora
    @taccora 10 місяців тому +12

    I watched Emily D Baker's coverage and was shocked. I swear, it really does take all kinds to make a world.

  • @mattsauter4178
    @mattsauter4178 10 місяців тому +2

    The thing that stood out about the police interview was that she said that she didn't think she was going to jail

  • @marionmarino1616
    @marionmarino1616 10 місяців тому +3

    Shabusiness is WAY PAST bipolar, etc. The drugs probably kept her controllable for short periods. She’ll be dangerous forever.

  • @dianajane6185
    @dianajane6185 10 місяців тому +3

    So good to hear your thoughts on this, Dr. Grande. Great analysis, and I do appreciate the little nuggets of wordplay. Thank you!

  • @binahnguyen3006
    @binahnguyen3006 10 місяців тому +2

    Looks like you had fun delivering this video Dr. Grande.

  • @hin_hale
    @hin_hale 10 місяців тому +1

    The calm and collected execution of each one of those puns - like nobody's Schabusiness.

  • @otter8940
    @otter8940 10 місяців тому +3

    I love your videos and commentary Dr. Grande!!

  • @Youtubereplies
    @Youtubereplies 10 місяців тому +4

    I’ve been waiting for your analysis of this.

  • @debbiemilam2204
    @debbiemilam2204 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent analysis Dr Grande. Thanks for all of your research and consise delivery.

  • @AnjellaBenz
    @AnjellaBenz 10 місяців тому

    Catching up on some of your videos. You provide us with up to date info with thoughtful analysis. Thank you for what you do ! ♡

  • @StormyAfterDark
    @StormyAfterDark 10 місяців тому +8

    Watching this trial and seeing her laugh during those brutal evidence photos of the dismemberment was shocking to me. It's horrific that there are people just like her walking amongst us in society. Thank you for your content as always Dr.Grande. On a lighter note "Unfinished Schabusiness, and Schabusiness at hand," pardon the pun. 🤣😂😅 I don't know how you keep a straight face lol. I wonder if she's related to Ed Gein. Love your curtains with the lights in your background!

  • @jak3589
    @jak3589 10 місяців тому +3

    Thank you your analysis on this was very good, it helped me understand her behavior better.

  • @jon590
    @jon590 10 місяців тому

    I love your videos and this channel! You're great at what you do, and I'm always fascinated by your insight and perspective on things. I've learned a lot from your observations and feedback. Sometimes on things that I didn't thing about before, or maybe had realized. Great stuff as always, and I thank you for your knowledge, videos and channel!

  • @lilithowl
    @lilithowl 10 місяців тому +1

    The poor mother! You would never unsee such a horrific thing.

  • @moneyguy2008
    @moneyguy2008 10 місяців тому +5

    It's so crazy that her last name is Schabusiness. How does someone even get a last name like that?

    • @morticialechatnoir6884
      @morticialechatnoir6884 10 місяців тому +2

      I read somewhere that she made it up😂

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 10 місяців тому +2

      Her and her husband changed their last names to that. She said they wanted a name that people would never forget. And they won't, even if her last name was Smith, they'd remember her!

    • @edmunddonnelly3881
      @edmunddonnelly3881 10 місяців тому

      Her real name is Coronado, which isn't as funny.

    • @dlc5166
      @dlc5166 10 місяців тому +1

      Name is "Schabow" her husband changed his last name to Schabusiness and her maiden name was Coronado - her husband Warren has a criminal record

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 10 місяців тому

      @@dlc5166 Yup!