Mechanic In A Can Part 3 - The Bad, The Good And The Backwards Of Lucas Oil Stabilizer
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- The Lucas Oil Gear Stack demonstration gizmo is probably the best known promotional item in all of automotive history, but there are two things wrong with it. First, it is based on a situation that does not exist inside any automotive engine, and secondly, it showcases a characteristic that is the exact opposite of how you want the oil in your engine to behave!
In spite of that, it's still a product we've found good use for and would recommend to others.
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The Lucas display was just something to play with while I waited for the parts guy to figure out my parts aren't in stock.....and are on backorder.
COTD!
I try to spin it fast enough to fling the oil off the gears.
My buddy would hold it down while I spun it fast enough to foam the oil. That got the parts guy off the phone faster. 😊
Yup! Been there done that 😅
I am glad that I'm not the only one playing with the Lucas display!
It's an addiction.
Sometimes I go to the parts stores just to spin it.
I always thought the Lucas displays were designed to show consumers how their modified oil would ultimately cling in places standard weight oil would not, and then prevent cold start engine wear.
Works great in differentials for extreme hauling and towing applications. The gears in there work the same way.
If Lucas "clings", why is the top gear dry prior to cranking the handle? 🤔
@@xxxYYZxxx project farms testing showed after draining oil and running engine the engine with lucas failed after the other engine.
It reduces blowby and oil consumption, knocking, ticking. It works for its intended purpose. You can also go from 5w20 to 5w30, etc.
I buy it by the Gallon. Lawn mower blowing smoke? Add a little locas and see if it helps. Rebuilding dirt bike engine? Lucas is nice assembly lube. Doing towing and hauling? Add a little lucas in the differential.
It is a good product to have on hand.
@@xxxYYZxxxThe additive in the Lucas stabilizer is only a climbing additive, so I guess it's not really intended remain on a surface for an extended period.
@@mysticjedi6730 It doesn't have any additives though.
I run Lucas synthetic 85w-140 full synthetic gear oil in the 1:3.5 overdrive transmissions on our blueberry harvester hydraulic pump drives; those italian-made units use straight cut iron gears and cook regular oil black in no time. Lucas' synth oil is the only product that survives the heat.
It also works great in extreme cold conditions.
Have you ever tried any Amsoil lubricants?
I buy their MP metal protectant spray by the case, and use it on our fuel and propane delivery trucks. Two coats protects our big fire extinguishers from road salt all winter...
I know a guy that had an old three blade batwing three point tractor mount mower that cooked the gearlube in the angle drive gearboxes in short order and was hard on bearings. He put the AMSOIL Severe Gear 75W140 gear lube in them and never had to open them up again.
I'm partially disabled and cannot stand for long periods of time but still love my asymmetrical two post because I can still roll around underneath the car on a roller stool or creeper. It works for me.
Uncle Tony I love your channel you have got to be one of the most informative guys on all of UA-cam thanks for sharing
As a farm kid and then a schooled diesel mechanic, I used this stuff in different ways also.
Like you , we used it as an assembly oil. I also used it in the gear drivetrain. Anywhere we had hard use and abuse in gear boxes and axles we added it to some of the gear lubes.
It helped with high mileage differentials and manual transmissions, especially when being used to pull heavy loads or high temperature towing heavy.
We used MMO for everything that needed gum, varnish and carbon cleaned up while running. If I had hydraulic lifters in something that I bought on an auction that ticked or took awhile to pump up, out came the MMO or a little ATF and we ran it for 20 hours and drained the engine and did an oil change.
More than once I was surprised at what came out in the oil and oil pan. After pulling many valve covers and oil pans, I swore that I would never run Pennzoil in my vehicles or equipment. I had vehicles come to my shop with customers demanding that I only use Pennzoil in their engine. I would try and keep them happy but showed them what came out in the pan. If the vehicle had high mileage and they ran nothing but that product , I would talk them into allowing me to drop the oil pan and cleaning it and the oil sump and pickup or replacing it. I also talked them into letting me use higher quality oil filters.
I was primarily a heavy truck and equipment mechanic but worked on other things as well and had a lot of basic maintenance I did for customers. Word of mouth keeps you more busy than advertising.
I quit wrenching for a living but I still do my own work and have a handful of customers that I still take care of. I hate working on newer cars because they are just junk. I guess I should say 10 year old newer cars. All of the plastic pieces get brittle, break and crumble or dissolve. Anything from today going back 15 years just isn't designed to last.
Love this stuff. 2010 Ram 1500 4.7 220k nothing but a water pump! I run tha quart of stabilizer every 4-5 oil changes. Sounds as healthy as any new truck.
I have a 2002 Dakota with the 4.7 and 296k on the clock. Have never used Lucas.
Used Lucas in all my cars and trucks for years, never had a problem with them. I always felt like Lucas helped with the longevity of all my "beater" vehicles I was trying to keep functional. I do not use Lucas in my modern beaters because I was concerned about the tiny passage ways being clogged. If I knew Lucas would not clog these tiny passage ways I would still be using Lucas every 3 or 4k miles in my oil changes.
I loved that Lucas display, it straight up sold me on the product.
That device has been at truck stop shops since the beginning of time. I always thought that it seemed like they were comparing gear oil to motor oil- a lot of people swear by that stuff though. Not me.
With the oil treatment, I will use it an engines that use a quart or so between oil changes. The Lucas normally cuts oil consumption in half in my experience. So instead of being at the add point, it will still be in the hashmarks. I would never put it anything that doesn't use oil. The Lucas product I will highly recommend is their power steering fluid, not the stop leak, actual power steering. I have changed a number of systems and they are quite on winter start ups, no cold start whine.
Used it on a auction 2000 cherokee that the previous owner drove with a cracked head and ruined the bearings do to coolant contamination. It was the only way to keep the oil pressure from dropping to zero and held it at 10. This was just a stop gap until replacement or rebuild.
Engines don’t run at room temperature either, I’m sure it’s going to react differently at running temp than it does in that parts store model.
Correct
I’ve always used lubriplate for assembling engines and have never had one problem
I seen those wheels a couple of weeks ago, I was impressed, thanks for the explanation Tony.
Windage is the reason I never have used Lucas in my engines. I was always concerned about sticky oil flinging all over the pistons, rods, and crank.
On a single cylinder industrial engine that has no oil pump, non pressurized. that relies on a oil slinger to splash oil up to critical parts. Regular car oil just foams up from the whipping action.
A while back I read where the FAA analyzed the av gas in a small crashed aircraft since it contained some Marvel Mystery Oil. Their lab reported that MMO was made with VM&P Naptha, Stoddard's Solvent and lard.
First time I spun those gears (as a USCG Machinery Tech), I could only think, "Well, THERE'S some resistance!" I still do.
Yeah Tony. I don’t have much use for lifts either. The people recommending them are probably not mechanics, they just have a theory that a lift is good.
Lucas can make worn engines quieter.
It’s also recommended for transmissions and differentials. That is a situation similar to the display.
My machinist said to use it as an assembly lube too. I was using the assembly grease but he advised against it. He did say to use the stuff with added zinc. So that’s what I’ve been using. Works great and is much cheaper than those small bottles.
I have an old riding mower with a 5 speed transmission that is splash lubricated. Any oil above the shaft seals leaks out over time, I mix this stuff with the 80/90 w gear oil so i know it can pull the oil from the lower half of the housing up onto the gears.
Chevy Equinoxes and Captivas are plaqued with an issue where the piston rings stick to the pistons causing oil to go into the combustion chamber. I have found that using about 3oz of Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant every other gas fill up will keep the rings unstuck and burn WAY less oil. If I continue to use it as described it doesn't seem to burn any oil, as opposed to burning about a quart every couple hours of driving. Gumout works too but is a lot more expensive to continually use.
Two separate instances of friends of mine using the Lucas oil treatment in a small block Chevy ended up with lots of shellac and slag built up inside the engine. Almost an inch thick on the heads. This was in the 90's when those gear spin things showed up at the parts store counters and these guys swore they'd always add 20% Lucas on their engines. One friend had a rod knock and the other just took his engine out for an overhaul due to smoking. I've never seen another engine before then or after that with as much slag built up on the hot surfaces.
I'm like you, injuries in the past have left me unable to work on a lift for extended periods of time. Should look into the quickjack. Gives between 18 and 26 inches of ground clearance. Had mmine for about 3 years, use it all the time, and have never had an issue. Good show Tony, hustle on
Thx man. Now i thinking see why my crankshaft went out. The last three months before engine died i used lucas. Granted eng was pushing up on300k miles. 4.8 gmc yukon ‘04
It'll climb to the top end and quiet things up but I wouldn't leave it in there long term. I use seafoam engine treatment in my fuel, motor oil for regular maintenance and Fogg an storing anything I'm not daily driving. boat motor 1980, skyline 1990, big red 200 1984, 1987 Honda trx250, 1985 250es big red and I could list all day really, even use it in my furnace. 😂 😅 🤣 me realizing that they should probably be sponsoring me by now!
We use marvel mystery oil into cylinders that are frozen up due to lack of use, poor some in each cylinder through the sparkplug holes, or remove the diesel injectors or glow plugs and put some in and let it set for a couple of hours.
I use the lucas on splash oil motors like riding mowers and stuff.. it will kill the tick and help run it along for a good while.. used it in low compression holes .. used it in the transmission of an old toyota that slipped a lot.. fixed it until i was able to rebuild it. I see em more of a get her by fluid..
in differentls and transfer cases theres a pool of oil at the bottom and the gears get oiled that way. its super thick gear oil but so is lucas.
We need to custom build an adjustable creeper for rolling under the lift for this.
As a diesel mechanic i work on the floor all the time because our shop is too cheap to install lifts
Lucas works, absolutely no doubt. The power steering additive works too.
7:37 perfect timing when you said:So the ad was O O Orielys
I never put Lucas in the engine. It's a nice additive to thicken up ATF after a fluid change. Manual trans. Diffs but I can't see needing it much in a diff. It might help keep the bearing in a roller lifter lubed up. Maybe for your gen 3 hemis? They run 5w20 but they eat alot a cams to.
Hey Tony. You should do an episode on flat tappet assembly lube and camshaft run in.
I use this in my 400 Cummings every time I change my oil got 1.5 million out of it as a over the road trucker in my Volvo truck never changed the turbo or fuel injectors on the motor
I hear u loud & clear UT & you're totally 100% right, correct, & accurate. BUT, what about engines w/ high mileage, wear & are very obviously using/burning oil???... And so many people do NOT understand it's insane to keep putting the OEM recommended THIN oil in that was recommended when it was brand new when it's got a 'million' miles & wear. Would this be a good product in those cases?... I think so, especially in the Hot summer anyway, anything to thicken it up to keep it from burning & blowing straight outta the Compton tail pipe, & give u some peace of mind so that u don't have to check the oil every time u drive it. Engine Restorer is probably the best for somehow 'magically' restoring compression(whats in that stuff?!), but also just topping off & changing to thicker oil like 10w30, 10w40, & 20w50 is such cheap insurance & peace of mind to keep those suckers running as long as possible. 0w20, & 0w16 oils is insane for people who never check their oil, & so many people don't check it except for those of us that really want to take care of our cars. "Slow as Molasses in January" is true, thicker oils/additives suck for MPG's & cold starts in winter, but it helps worn engines keep running especially in the summer. The small dark blue bottle of STP Used to be just $2.88, now its up to $4.98, just bought about 4 bottles for extra special Xmas presents, haha. Take care from TN, - Leeroy
I would love to have a lift! At my age, I'd do a lot more of my own work.
I get a bit claustrophobic laying under a car these days.
I used Marvel Mystery Oil on my '70 Camaro - fixed issues I didn't even knew I had! :)
I like Lucas and my uncle used stp when he rebuilt an engine to lube cam and rod bearings .
did you see project farm? his pick up truck was very chattery like a type writer and it quieted down with this product
I used to be a Lucan Oil Stabilizer fan boy. In ways, I still kind of am. For my diesel, it's fine. It did really help some leaky seals in my old gasser beater, and, if used at 1/4 or less with a thin oil, may offer some benefits. But I will say, it does work as a gasket and seal softener, and works really well in my manuals for extra lubrication in the trans and diff. Their injector cleaner is garbage, but their transmission fix is MONEY. That stuff works so well for automatic transmissions in need, or as an added lubricant to keep heat down and prevent auto trans from failing early I have found as the fluids are so detergent based and lack good lubrication, which, we all know, heat is the biggest auto trans killer there is. I've seen the transmission fix do things I never thought possible.
My oil runs cooler with Lucas. 15 liter caterpillar. Went 1.5 million using Lucas. I didn't know if it helps, but it doesn't hurt and makes it quieter
For those saying this is too thick, you might be right, but try the lucas synthetic oil stabilizer. I but that shit in everything and it's the real thing
Oil additive is good stuff their wheelbarrowing grease is excellent
I love using the Lucas hot rod oil, has the high zinc 😎😎
The Lucas trans stuff does help with worn transmissions.
Good ol tony, smokin that stuff again 😂
This guy apparently knows more than chemical engineers. Lucas and all their thousands and thousands of happy customers must be wrong. 😂
Lucas oil stabilizer works great as winter 5th wheel lube.
It works great if you're too lazy to change the oil pump in your 3.9L Dakota... Again. 289,000 miles, drove it across the scales with the ac blowing cold and the trans slipping
I’ve had good results mixing it 50/50 with gear oil in worn out damaged manual gearboxes.
This man needs to watch, project Farm videos!
Uncle Tony! Need your knowledge,view or opinion on reground Cams for the street ? Any reputable company? Merry Christmas to you and family.
Lucas oil is like a bandaid and like bandaids it's not a permit fix for a worn out engine or transmission
So, what is the good and bad side of using Lucas?
some of the lucas products do work pretty good
Pretty sure a lot of manual transmission get oiled basically like the display
What are your thoughts on a product called pro lube? There are demonstrations of it on UA-cam.
Great video thanks.
OIL > Cleans, Cools, Lubricates, and Vibration Dampens
I only use stuff like that as a last result they make assemble lube by lucas even with zinc in it
Clearly u missed the point of the counter top toy display as well as the explanation on the bottle itself. MOPAR2YA 😎
Maybe it would prolong the hemi engines with there lubrication problems
I put a quart in my civic every oil change its a 91 with 260k
I use the synthetic version in my 2011 Malibu with the ecotec. I will say that my oil is cleaner and does not get that black look to it, it seems to stay cleaner. Any thoughts as to why that may be? Is it because I am making the oil a higher percentage of synthetic vs the recommended oil?
Oil that does not turn dark is BAD !!!!!!!!!
All internal combustion engines create byproducts of combustion (soot, carbon, etc.). The job of your OIL is to lubricate your engine, AND capture / hold in suspension particles from combustion. If you run your oil 3K-4K miles and its not turning dark, your oil is not capturing the particles and that soot / carbon is being left INSIDE your engine. To that end, run a good synthetic oil (Pennzoil or Mobil 1) along with a can of BG MOA and you will be in good shape. Also, if its a higher mileage car, run a can of BG EPR through the engine before the oil change. It will help dissolve much of that sludge, carbon and shoot and get it out of the engine. Cheers!
I had an f150 with a e4od that was starting to shift funny so I poured a bottle of lucas tranny fix into it and it worked fine until I sold it 2 years later. Told the guy who bought it what I’d done and he figured it was fine after he drove it. So I guess it worked. Lol
I run it in my 4G63T motor because they are known for running the big end bearing.
Once the Lucas hit the shelves, packing noisy rear diffs with saw dust.... a thing of the past. Thanks, Lucas!
I remember hearing about the sawdust trick when I was a teenager from junk car dealers I did work for.
I remember my dad telling me when i was a kid, he bought a car from a shady lot once. Said it drove fine, until about 100 miles couple days later it wouldn't it stopped pulling on his way to work, turned out the dealer put sawdust in the trans. Grimey trick but it works for a temporary fix in an trans emergency situation.
I learned about the sawdust trick as a kid from
Danny Devito in Matilda . Lol
My Grandfather told us stories of finding banana peels in differentials, was a service station mechanic after WW2.
@@KathyArmstrong-r9k i think mythbusters might have covered that. I could be thinking of something else though.
Even if you don’t run it all the way up a lift can still be super handy. Being able to get all 4 wheels up without needing to run around with a jack and stands can make a world of difference.
Sometimes even just bringing stuff like the brakes up to a comfortable level where you can sit on a stool and not be hunched over is really nice.
Same can apply to a motorcycle lift. Having the bike up at a comfortable level can make things much nicer to work with.
Exactly. Work smarter not harder. I guess Tony has his ways.
Problem with lifts they tend to get in the way of hanging out talking and bSing the congregation
@@askiiii4737 All talk ive heard that same excuse for years. If you get sore from working under a lift than dont raise it up so high.
I get your point that oil wouldn't climb up anything in an engine like in the display. I always thought it was just an example to show it stuck to the parts better than standard oil. Easier on start-ups and older high mileage stuff. And yes a very good assembly lube!
My thoughts as well...cheers...
@darkrulier yes you do. But Lucas being sorta sticky will leave a protective costing on those parts during start up when they maybe otherwise dry. Plus b is meant to help out higher mileage engines as well.
@@thedriver02 In my experience working on old envelope manufacturing machines, from printing presses to folders and cutters, some of them have sumps that supply chains and gears with oil. Before we ever rotate a used machine, we always drain the sumps, crack them open, and look for any damage. 10 out of 10 times a machine that has sat for years always still has a film of oil on all gears and chains.
Take from that what you will, but I think the whole chatter on startup thing isn't that big of a deal. The oil filling up all of the internals of an engine will definitely help cut down on that chatter, but I guarantee you there isn't a such thing as a dry start
solved the cold start timing chain rattle in my 2013 Ecoboost!!!
Isn't this pretty much what is happening with a timing chain?
I've never used it in an engine, but I was a machinist for 40 years, the last 35 in the same shop. Most of our machines were over 30 years old, some, very much over. We used it in lathe headstocks, and mill gear boxes. They tended to run quieter. Did it reduce wear? Beats me, maybe over another 30 years, but I won't be around to find out.
Those are spinning like crazy at high temperatures either.
I use it in open differentials. And some experimental places
I've been a machinist since the early seventies, I've also used it in lathes and milling machines. One of my lathes is from the mid-1800's and really needs it.
That’s depressing… hopefully you are.
@@davemccage7918 Possible, but not likely, I'm 67, my dad went at 86, mom at 92.
I discoved years ago that this exact bottle is my favourite motorcycle chain lube, as it is the most resistant to flying off at speed! Thanks for the tip on also using it as assembly lube.
I have used Lucas in my 2006 Freightliner with a Cat engine since it was new. It now has just over a million miles on it. I have the oil changed every month, about 10,000 miles. It still doesn’t burn any oil and it’s still ready to go anywhere in the US tomorrow morning. Great stuff. Use it in my cars and pu too.
I add a bottle on a new Detroit freightliner. They only change the oil every 50k if you’re lucky
Every 10k miles? Man l admire that! Price per change (45 quarts or more?) Has got to $200 even if you do it yourself. And @ 45 quarts how many quarts of Lucas do you add?
Keep on Truckin'
Brother!
@@richard7408 I have a great shop that I drop my truck off at when I come home. I can do some things on it myself. But I can't really bring it home to my neighborhood. The shop lets enough room for me to put 1/2 my gallon bottle in. I change the oil in my reefer about 3-4 times a year. I usually add a quart in it. (Thermoking) Lots of repairs over the years but she still runs strong. Twin turbo cat with a 13spd. it'll run with anything on the road. I try to take care of it. It's my paycheck & my second home. !!! Thanks
Is it the 4000? I used to be a reefer tech at my last job
@@snoopy5736 It’s a Utility trailer 3000R . It’s an 04 but I got it in 2010 and Utility refurbished it and put a whole new Thermoking unit on it. It’s an SB-190. Runs great. Better than me. I’m thinking this will be my last summer on the road. Time to spend more time at home working on my old Dodge and my old Chevy pu, and a fishing pole. Costing more and more on the road and my share isn’t going up as fast as everything else.
20% Lucas dropped C60 Detroit temps by 10° in Tx summer 5 units in 1999. Torn down multiple truck units and 6BT Cummins with clean internals, visible cross hatching and impressive bearing condition in high hour engines. I will accept some windage and sticky in work engines, hot rods are a different story. Enjoy your content just a different perspective.
I found that if I tore into an engine that I ran Lucas in, all the parts had a heavy coating of Lucas on them. No matter how long it sat. The coating itself was much thicker than the regular oil coating. So I think it does help prevent wear. I also use it as assembly lube too.
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People on here saying the oil doesn't cool the engine if oil is too thick lolol
These are water cooled engines, not oil or air cooled engines lol 🤣
I swear. I would bet most these people commenting this nonsense couldn't even fix a dead lawn mower.
if you shake REALLY good it is a GREAT 2 stoke oil too i got a john deer string trimmer been doin it like that since i pulled it outta the scrap heap in town smokes a little but runs great and every time i have torn it down for service other than the cylinder walls having scores from the old rust everything looks brand new and it outperforms trimmers "twice" its size and 30 years newer the only down side is the carbon buildup in the exhaust which is the reason for the servicing in the first place .... never really a coating but more of an annoying a$$ film on everything making you drop stuff over and over but great for that purpose lol
@@therealjaysehI agree car engines are not air oil cooled i disgaree with this guy myself Lucas also works great in rear diff where the gears do say in oil
@@therealjayseh Tell me in great detail how the water cools your rod or main bearings in an engine?
I agree I am a huge Lucas fan. Sticks to bearings longer.
Project Farms had proven that the Lucas Transmission Fix works under certain circumstances and I use it regularly in my transmissions and I get lot of life out of my transmissions with very little wear.
Same here . My 2006 Ram 1500 has 240k miles on original 4.7 V8 and automatic transmission
@@jamessharp9790a ram with that many miles with no transmission issues is a blessing. Back in my automotive work days if a dodge pulled up. It was always transmission issues, coils, radiator fan or cooling issue.
@@jamessharp9790 287 cubic inches.
I used the Lucas ATF conditioner after reading reviews and it works amazing. Feels like a new transmission… everything is so smooth and crisp now.
Yeah used it for my oil change in September still getting good mileage 3500 miles later if anything it’s increasing and I haven’t had to top off my oil at all
Lucas oil stabilizer is an excellent product. Been using it for 20 years in every one of my vehicles. Mobile One + Lucas = looong life.
I've always used M1 with a small amt of Lucas also and never had an engine fail. My vehicles get sold when the body fails the motor and sometimes trans. Being religious about oil changes is likely more important than adding snake oils but I will continue to use a little.
I'd say he's full of shit that it doesn't help with dry starts, cold start a 98 Chevy 5.7 on 5w30 then add a qt of kucas and start it
Agree on M1+ Lucas. Time tested.
If you use a higher quality oil like amsoil signature series you do not need to add snake oils.
@mrglock2313 Mobile 1 and Lucas has never failed me once, but how can i argue with this logic. I'll use only amsoil from now on.
I'm sure UT is waiting to surprise us with his marble bathroom with gold toilet, crystal chandelier and silver bidet. Along with the usual garage sink covered with corroded 90 weight and decorated with rust, like all good shop sinks.
Don't forget a raunchy 1998 calendar.
The sink should also be dusted heavily with the microgrit from the hand soap.
I like to use it in high mileage motors that tend to loose oil pressure a bit when hot, or if I'm going on a long road trip to help give the bearings more cushion. Once the motor is at operating temp its not as thick and I really don't think it causes any windage problems unless your using way too much, it has also helped with smoking motors by helping that oil rings seal better
It quieted valve lifters on my Ford 4.6, especially on cold startup. It also seems to make it run smoother on hot summer days when I push it a bit hard. I calculated fuel mileage back when I first started using it, and there was a small improvement for hwy driving.
Years back my 1996 Dakota transmission was slipping badly (about undrivable) at 192000 miles, I tried Lucas transmission product and was able to make it to 200000 miles before it was useless. No hard acceleration but it drove well till I could find a newer Dakota.
That Lucas stuff works also to coat motor parts before storing away. And it also works great when drilling thru steel to keep the drill bit cool.
i use it in my guns, diesel takes it right off for cleaning.
@@FedkaSlovanich trumptards and your guns. Always trying to compensate for shortcomings...
Good idea! Never thought to try it as a tapping fluid.
Lucas is a great American family success story, and makes excellent products!
Made them $$ too 👍👍👍
Ams is great oil
PT Barnum was a great American success also.
A virgin oil analysis shows the Lucas oil stabilizer to be not much more than a VERY heavy oil bastock. It will actually dilute an approved motor oils additive package. Yes it will show an indicated lower temp, that is because it inhibits heat transfer to the oil. The old STP (Blue bottle) is much the same, but at least that had some extreme pressure additives.
Hell yeah LOVE there GUN OIL
Its an amazing assembly lube!! I remember a tip from my mentor, he explained windage vaguely and told me to run the engine two quarts low if wanted to go a little quicker and it made a huge difference at the track, even helped me stay in my bracket a few times when the car wasn't running quite right.
That's very interesting!
Once built a junkyard motor out of two 260 and 350 C.I. Oldsmobile engines. The 350 had a flat cam, bent pushrods, and 4 collapsed lifters, the 260 had bad soft plugs and a possibly cracked block but ran fine so I pulled the cam, lifters and pushrods from the 260 and put them in the 350. Used Lucas as an assembly lube and stuck the motor in an '80 Buick Century. Ran that car for a couple of years before selling it and never had any issues.
Those Lucas oil displays are to keep young boys in the late 80s occupied while their father desperately hunts to replace the automatic trans from a 76 f250. Loved those things as a kid
I like my lift, save me a lot of back pain. No more lying on the job for me.
A QuickJack (tm) is the best of both worlds. Working on your back plus the advantage of allowing your arms to stretch out, and if you are older with progressive lenses, able to more easily keep your work within your glasses' focal range.
40 years ago at trade school my teachers explained the the sticker was large to try to mask the fact that the ‘ Lucas ‘ sump was empty 😂
Good point.
Yeah because the oil is up in the moving parts where its useful.. its not doing anything of value sitting in the sump.
I use Lucas oil stabilizer in my old cars, and my new car. I use it because I want to always have an oil film on all mechanical surfaces inside the engine at startup, and I do believe it helps with that. I think it helps keep the oil seals wet. I also believe it helps on things like timing chains and guides. I want all that stuff to be nice and slick so it wears less. I don’t use anywhere near a quart of it though per oil change. More like maybe half a pint per oil change. I’ll take all the help I can get keeping my engine a well oiled engine. I have used this stuff for many years now and I have put a lot of miles on my personal cars, I have never had any sort of internal mechanical issues with an engine so far in twenty years of driving and maintaining my own vehicles. Now look, that might just be because I kept good oil in all my cars, but I don’t think it hurt that I was using Lucas all those years.
I use their fuel treatment every once in a while too. I think it’s a good product as well. I especially like to use it in my lawn equipment gas. Works great for keeping CA gas usable for months at a time in a jerry can. I think it’s great for keeping fuel injectors spraying well. I think it also helps keep the valves and combustion chamber clean. The spark plugs in my cars always look clean when I take them out. Most times, my plugs are good enough to re-use. Is that due to the Lucas? I have no scientific evidence, but I will probably continue to use the product anyway😂
The purpose of any lubricant is to provide the best protection on multiple fronts. In the most basic explanation, the key is to provide the highest shear strength (in this case, meaning the amount of force required to displace the lubricant) without causing too much resistance. A product like Lucas Oil Stablizer adds shear strength and increases resistance. So, depending on the application, it may or may not be a good thing to add. It is not, in and of itself, a bad product.
Not necessarily a 2-poster, those are accidents waiting to happen, but a storage lift or a second floor loft. This way you could stack two cars in the same corner, or fill the loft with.. Stuff. In a limited floor space environment, vertical space is the way to happiness.
If Anybody wants to donate a lift I will cook meals for a year .
a good lift begins with a good floor--steel reinforced thick concrete. but also UT's car would be leaking all over what's underneath :) I'd personally love to have lifts but i see when they go wrong, and like UT, working all day on my feet with my arms in the air i think would exhaust my "old body style" too.
@@alertgasper Most definitely. That's why you never install a 2-poster to an unknown floor i.e old garage.
@@alertgasper the installation instructions that came with my rotary lift says a minimum is 6 inches. Then the anchors have to be torqued to 150 lbs. Imagine my relief when they were all in a properly torqued. If just one slipped the fix was to Jack hammer the concrete and replace.
Timing chains and gears would directly benefit from Lucas especially if you are running all gear drive in the front. Thats one senario that it would "climb" but it definitly helps out engines with MDS where oil consumption has been shown to be an issue. Also with Gen2 and 3 Hemi engines and their much more horizontaly designed lifters because of cam location where oil alone doesn't adequately cover all surfaces resulting in premature wear. I think you might be familiar with that issue Uncle Tony.
I'm 32 and I've been running this stuff in all my cars since I was a teenager. The guy who taught me almost everything I know about carbs and engines when I was young told me it was good stuff and he used it in all of his engines. He said he'd seen it hide some awful noises and clearance issues. Things I can say about it myself are I see a worthwhile increase in oil pressure over a vehicles standard oil when replacing one quart of the oil change with one bottle of this. I also notice significantly less lifter noise in cars that have it when I use this. Between the way it increases oil pressure and the way it makes bad noises quieter I don't like to drive without it in most of my vehicles. I know this isn't the only way to thicken oil enough to increase oil pressure or reduce unwanted noise but it's the way I do it and it's been working for me so far. PS I've also used it as an assembly lube too.
Oil pressure is useless without flow…
@@aygwm LoL It's definitely flowing, otherwise it wouldn't make it to the top of the block and down the line to my oil pressure gauge. Can't have oil pressure without flowing oil to make the pressure. Not to mention the fact that I would have already had an oiling issue several years ago if it was ever going to happen.
@@aygwmstabilizer doesn’t stop oil pressure or flow. Putting half a bottle in just keeps everything lightly coated. After 6 months storage I can start up my Mopar and no rocket noise etc. it’s a lifesaver for cams and lifters as well these days.
@@aygwm do you really think it stays thick at 250° degrees? LMFAO 🤣
No it doesn't. It's all like water at that temp. Hydrostatic bearings float on oil film. The metal is not even touching each other, it's riding on oil film via Oil Pressure !!!!! 🤪
Years back my dad used to get an old push mower to cut a steep bank on our property. The mower would last about a year/ year and a 1/2 and then it would seize up. Then it was time for another cheap used push mower ! One day I decided to put a 1/2 mix of this stuff in the crank case and 'ta da' we could get over 2 years out of a mower before it gave up the ghost ! I have been using it ever since
I think some of the additives were far more useful 40-50 years ago than they are now. Today's pols are so much better, they generally don't need anything else. I have been a huge fan of Marvel Mystery oil for a very long time. Used to...anytime I bought a used car with any miles on it, I would ad some Marvel to the crankcase and clean the sludge out of the engine. A couple of oil changes after using Marvel and they were much cleaner inside. But I would be wary of using anything else in newer engines.
Tony - I would love to know your feelings on Slick 50.
The main ingredient in Marvel is white spirit; Slick 50 is the biggest con-job out; definitely doesn't work.
I've seen lucas "fix" tapping lifters a few times. Also, theres an expediter called everything apax that gets like 750k miles out of his gassers and he uses it. I don't use it, thats just what I've seen.
In my modern 5.7 hemi's i use lucas to help sling coat the cam with oil and i have gotten lots of miles with no cam issues
I do believe lucas is a great help for the modern hemi cam oiling issue.... Any thoughts on that ?
Uncle Tony I can remember the first time I saw this product. I was about 11 years old and I was with my dad at our local Advance Auto Parts Store. I saw this demo gear set with standard oil in one and Lucas in the other. Like others I spun the handles and noticed what the oil did and what the Lucas did and the first words out of my mouth were: That’s gonna cause drag..your gonna effectively slow the engine down. My dad told me to leave that thing alone. The sales person behind the counter kinda chuckled and said that’s not how it works. Being young I kept my mouth shut and left the thing alone.
It does NOT create drag when at engine temps.
Same bathroom any good shop has.... A funnel with a hose going through the wall and outside 🙄
Buddy of mine is a plumber. He has a urinal in his garage with the drain going out the wall
@@aidenschvatkok5732 that's a little more fancy compared to my set up
I always thought you could use it as Assembly lube cause it had that same snotty feel to it.
You can. I do, and it works fine. I wouldn't use it to install a flat tappet cam, but on lower end bearings, and roller stuff it works fine. I wouldn't use it if you're putting the engine together, and it's going to sit for a while before starting it up.
So did STP, which would stick the exhaust valves rock solid.
I never put Lucas in the oil, but I was glad I had a full can of Lucas transmission goo on a road trip from Florida to Minnesota, an the tranny started slipping just into Georgia, stopped at the first station off the interstate and let it Cool down, put the Lucas and a quart of some No name trans fluid and made the trip no problem... till I got back to Florida, many stops to Cool down, Made it home change the fluid and filter and another bottle of Lucas when I refilled it,No problems since it's been a few years now.👍
I did the same. Chevy Cobalt trans fluid was dark as heck and low in my girlsfriends car. Added Lucas, plus more tranny oil. Transmission at first before treatment would shift at all. Afterwards it came to life, ran great ten years later on, no transmission flush or damages. Great stuff.
The reality of engines needing or not needing additives like Lucas is this: the working joe can't afford a $75 thousand pick up truck or sissy new sports car some average joe buys a second hand truck or car. Nobody really knows how the previous owner maintained the vehicle. If he did regular oil changes, used decent motor oil, and filter then chances are if the new owner keeps it up, the engine will last, no need for additives. BUT, if the previous owner just sold it because his cousin got a brand new F150 or a Camaro, and never bothered maintaining it, the new owner will most likely start to hear some 'knocking' or 'rattle' but can't afford to pay a mechanic $200.00(?) dollars an hour to diagnose the issue. So he buys Lucas oil in an attempt to put off what could be the inevitable, a costly repair bill. He puts it in, a year later, truck still running, no issues. I'm going on 180 thousand miles on my 2013 F150 I bought in 2020 with 120 thousand on it. There are too many positive comments about Lucas which is why I gave it a try. Stuff worked for me. Now, please don't mention the rust on it, yikes!
I have found one specific application where it works great and thats inside the transmission of the 83-88 tercel wagons. The oil certainly has to climb the gears to make it to the input shaft bearings and with these cars getting old and seals not being as good and an influx of people who never check their oil, this stuff helps. It adds a film to the parts that protects them even when you're a little low on oil. The downside is that it smells terrible when combined with gear oil and that film that protects the parts is a PAIN to remove when you finally crack one open. But it does work.
Also for a worn engine with low oil pressure, itll bring it up quite a bit but thats probably just the thickness.
Can you do a video on leaded/unleaded gas? Specifically running today's unleaded gas in engines designed for leaded fuels? There's a lot of controversy surrounding this and I'd love to hear your take. For the record, I run pump gas in all my classics. I use a bottle of Lucas upper cylinder lube every now and then because I feel it helps prolong the life of fuel pump diaphragms and accelerator pump diaphragms that could be affected by the ethanol in the fuel. Anyway, love your channel and id like to meet you someday. I'm in Nashville.
Real simple a man can go to the bathroom in the woods it's part of being a man and not a sissy. It is nice to work outside under natural light when the weather is nice, way better than the building. And last I like to thank Tony for keeping it real and not working on those unobtainium projects that none of us could afford in three lifetimes.
You know, I'd really hate to hate to sh*t in a pit in the woods, like an animal. I would probably rent a porta potty while the build finishes.
I got a 20x20 garage with 12 workshop lights still could be brighter, I enjoy wrenching on a beautiful day. I have the quickjacks, they're alright the moment you need to raise and lower the car more than once, for various reasons. Quickjack support is terrible, for such a basic product its sad.
Tony does keep it real. Those cars run great and not extravagant money spent.
Agreed. Like stupid, ridiculous lifter Porches and crap like that.