@@bakionigeri6414 Vegeta isn’t supposed to be vicious anymore, not after the final fight with Buu. This is something Super completely ignores. He admitted his respect for Goku, and moved past his obsession with surpassing him. Vegeta’s motivation for strength and power at that point should be protecting the Earth and his loved ones, not keeping up with Goku. That was one thing GT got right. This was the height of Vegeta’s character growth. Super basically regressed him to his Android/Cell Saga characterization. Goku was never really savage, just smart in battle, and got down to business when he had to.
I always thought Kaioken was neater than Super Saiyan, mainly because of the color and because Goku couldn't just spam it. He had to use it strategically due to the time limit.
CheesyGranola Fine what about the original fight with goku and vegeta? He spammed the hell out of the kaioken. Later in the series they would go super saiyan once and fight.
Seriously, right? Why did the initial Saiyan Saga dub ever get the idea to pronounce it "keh" in the first place? They always called King Kai by his name properly, and it's the same spelling, so this has always been a mystery to me. Didn't the redub of this movie use the wrong pronunciation again? True mystery.
@@teranokitty the TV dub of the movie 3 used the wrong Kaioken pronunciation, but I believe it was done before the pioneer dub of the first 3 movies, since Ian James Corlett is still playing Goku in it. Also, I think they were just following suit with their pronunciation of Saiyan when they decided to pronounce Kaioken like that. Both are 'wrong' technically, but the common pronunciation of Saiyan is too iconic to change now.
It was pronounced right in the Uncut Ocean Dub movies because *Pioneer* were the ones in charge of the script, pronunciations and so on for the Movies. For the main series FUNimation was in charge of that, as well as the TV version of Movie 3, but they split that into 3 episodes for it's initial Syndicated run back in November 1997, so they are considered episodes. It's why you see such a stark contrast between the series and movies for the Ocean Dub. The Ocean Dub Movies have very accurate scripts, and the Ocean Dub Movie DVDs even put the Japanese version on there with subs, which was unheard of at the time.
He really was the first to demonstrate that Son Goku's proper voice can work in English. There are ways to reconcile it, though MasakoX is probably the best example.
Doesn't help that Kelamis was the only one of the early Goku actors to pronounce Kaio Ken correctly. Schemmel would pronounce right later on in Kai, but that was in 2009.
***** I mostly look for Kai, nowadays. It's my personal preference. But I'd like to see more of the old school Dragon Ball Z. Just to get a glimpse of how it was back in the day.
I seem to recall an interview years back where Peter Kelamis admitted that he knew this was the last of DBZ they'd be doing for a while, and he wanted to try emulating Masako Nozawa's screams and performance. This movie, and the final two episodes of the original Ocean run of DBZ where Goku takes on Recoome and Burter and Jeice, are Peter Kelamis' best moments as Goku. You can argue over which voice actor is the best Goku overall, but when it comes to Peter Kelamis, this is what peak Peter Kelamis sounds like.
he indeed mentioned it in an interview at geekdom since at the time, ocean studios got the tapes from japan, so kelamis did some studying on how to emulate nozawa's goku and it NAILED TO A TEA 💕💕
@@magururo Sure as hell sounds like it. Would have been awesome if we could get a modern Ocean dub of Kai or even Super with Kelamis at his best, but unfortunately that is more or less just a pipe dream.
Love how he carries the kaioken at 1:50 into a scream. Something Funi dub never knew how to do. Brian Drummond as a young Vegeta was always the best. "You won't escape my wrath" couldn't be outdone by anything Funi did.
Slow Clap 👏🏼 1. Ocean Dub Goku voice is closest to Nozawa! 2. The Kaioken Beat Downs! 3. “Im going to fight as long as my body holds out!..KAIO KEN X’s 3!! DAHHHH!”
***** His excuse is that Goku shouldn't be voiced by a woman which makes Sean sound like a dick. Toriyama said himself that he pictures Goku sounding just like Masako.
***** Really? Do you know why that is? Idk but I kind of always felt like Sean was never as nice as we all thought he was. I heard the reason he didn't like the original was because he felt like Goku wasn't as nice as he is depicted in the English dub. Still, I like Peter Kelamis.
Genesis Malakh That is why I LOVE Peter Kelamis and that's why this is my favorite film. It was my first DBZ film I saw and thankfully managed to keep it uncut and retained the kick ass music. I never heard an original Japanese theme before when I was 10 years old then.
Genesis Malakh OMG where did you get it, I have to get it! Just for this movie. This is my favorite film in the series and crazy enough I acually enjoyed the Ocean Dub of it. Other than the fact it was the one I saw first as a 10 year old they actually kept the original soundtrack intact unlike Funimation. Which I thought was stupid.
DBS needs to learn from the old DBZ days, especially the action scenes, we felt the weight of how hard Goku punched, unlike dbs where it is just circles and screaming. I wish we can go back to simplier times like this.
Love how Goku said KAIOKEN and burst out the ice like a badass and the kaioken had a flaming wind sound effect and the fight animations are so smooth and fluid, this is dope.
Peter Kelamis sounded almost spot on to Nozawa screaming the Kaio-Ken. IDK why people look down on the Ocean cast. The dialogue was accurate, the music was still spot on, and the voices were great.
@@OnlyGoken Funimation are trash too tbh. Now they have improved a lot but they can still do better. They just don't because they want to please casual watchers or those who grew up with their older dubs more than the real fans of the franchise.
@@gorrillabishan I agree. I still like the Ocean voices and acting itself better for the show, despite the actual dialogue being worse. It's like having Liam Neeson, Jack Nicholson, and Samuel Jackson reading Three Stooges Script seriously, versus The Situation, Andy Dick, and Kristen Stewart reading lines from The Matrix.
Yup, I was first exposed to DBZ in the early Days of Toonami, when they hadn't even released the Funimation dub yet. So up to Goku's fight with Recoome, that is Ocean. From that point on, is Funimation. Just like it was on the show. I am too old to learn to love Kai; I have the Funimation and Ocean scenes burned into my soul.
@@darmocat same. I remember after Goku arrived on Namek they did a rerun from the beginning. Then when we assumed new episodes would air, we got new voices. Vegeta was the most obvious change. Maybe his voice box got so injured by recoome that when he healed it never did 100% and got even deeper overtime (by super). When he ate the bean, he mentally said ge felt great in old voice not out loud. So jelly vegeta in Super can be like his old younger self trying to come back.
Jose. It's because it gives you that dbz vibe from the beginning of the series like the epic fight with Raditz. Now it's just flying and shooting powerful key blast at eachother. Instead of seeing more combat on the ground.
Jose Garcia BEcause it's so brutal. You can feel every punch, where as as the series went on, it was more about the spectacle. Sure they were more powerful, but this one just strikes me as far more brutal because he didn't curbstomp the bad guys after getting Super Saiyan 2
You know how you can listen to an awesome solo, and it just touches your heart and brings a tear to your eye? That's what Peter Kelamis's Goku performance does to me. Everything in this movie just accents moments perfectly. The sound mixing, staging of the scenes, the sound FX, the acting. For me, it is perfect. I wouldn't change anything about it.
I think he's pretty soft though his fighting ability is NOT! He doesn't have a lot of killing intent compared to some of the people he fought. Perfect type of hero.
FireBomberBassist "That tub of lard was a good warm up but..." Real Goku is vicious. Sean basically turned him into a hero. It's not just funimation censors. Sean had a hand in it.
Traditional animation looks so much better than CG animation, but CG animation is way quicker and cheaper so basically nothing is done the old-school way any more. This is true for Western animation as well as Japanese animation.
i absolutely love the funimation dub, but i gotta admit this is probably the best english goku out there, especially with how good his kaioken yell is. sean schemmel's got nothing on peter kelamis
Peter Kelamis did a good job of portraying Goku here. While Sean is still my #1 pick, I just can't help but respect him for being able to capture Nozawa's Goku very well. Watching Super made me appreciate Nozawa's voice work alot, so hearing Kelamis deliver a fantastic performance here is making me want Kelamis to return in the Bang Zoom dub at the very least.
@@therandom_dude The Bang Zoom dub was a Los Angeles-based dub of Super that was done by the company Bang Zoom Entertainment for Asian audiences. The dub has unfortunately been cancelled for a good while at this point, though.
Does Kelamis do anime anymore? That’s why he replaced Ian Corlett, because Corlett didn’t wanna do anime anymore. And Kirby Morrow is of course unfortunately dead, so Kelamis is the only choice left.
I bought the dvds of the first 3 movies of this dub it's my favorite dub. Accurate to the JP script using the OG score just like Kai did except most of ocean consists of good people.
Biggest reason I loved the ocean dubs, other than all of the dialogue is just... so much better, the emotional range too. Buuuut.. When they are screaming, they are really screaming. While I know the lower toned shouts are healthier throat wise for the recording artists of Funimation, and I would not dare ask them to destroy their own vocal chords and throats for me, it just doesn't have the same feeling. Imagine if Asura's wrath had that funimation even toned yelling stuff.
That was the most and will always be the most epic kaio ken moment when he broke that ice, still get goosebumps from this version. They used to use it in commercials for DBZ too.
When he did the “Kaioken Kai Break” you could feel the sudden onset of pain in his scream from the stress of using the technique right before the power up kicked in. Def my favorite English dub Goku!
I can’t stop coming back to watch this-the voice acting is AMAZING! Especially when Goku got hit by the soldiers from all sides! Kelamis really made it sound like it hurt like hell!
So I recently watched the re-dubbed version of the World's Strongest and it just didn't feel the same to me. To go with Gohan's cheesy dream-music being completely different, the ambient music and sounds just wasn't doing it for me. What is one of my favorite DBZ movies all of a sudden just felt like an old show I liked as a kid. I say all that to bring me up to this point where I'm watching/hearing The World's Strongest as I remember. This put a smile on my face and gave me that flood of nostalgia. Goku's voice being so damn high-pitch but working so great to make him sound like a mad-man when he uses the kaioken, the explosion sound effects, and whirling ambient wind noises of the Kaioken, and the build up of the music when Goku starts casting the Kamehameha on Dr.Wheelo. This is why I love(d) this movie.
There's this division between english speaking fans of Dragon Ball and japanese speaking fans. Japanese fans appreciate that Goku sounds like he always has, that he's voice acted by the same performer since the beginning and that he has the voice of a child even as an adult. English fans, on the other hand, generally prefer a Goku that sounds more like an adult man. Peter Kelamis was perfect because he bridged that gap, giving a voice that is clearly an adult man, but with a youth and innocence that captures what Masako Nozawa gives the character.
Not only is this the BEST voice acting i've ever seen with DBZ, the sound effects are top of the line. This dub is so underrated and overlooked its unbelievable.
Is that what he said? I loved Ocean’s dub work here the original score and the sound effects are just in perfect harmony. I’d assume you wouldn’t be able to hear Goku because a beam struggle of that proportion would probably be loud as hell!
Seeing the Ocean Dubs of the movies makes me wish they got to dub the series like this, accurate script, no censorships and whatnot. If they didn't have Saban breathing down their necks their dub of the series could have been amazing.
@@mayasharyasharala22 I know I'm one year late but hear is a link to the entire ocean dub of Dragon ball Z from the Saiyan saga to Kid Buu saga. But they never dubbed the frieza saga. :) : mega.nz/folder/WEEGwD4b#wImrVaMHlize_ogLy6nV5g/folder/iYkygZyb
The background art at 0:58 is so pretty. The art in this film period, is just really gorgeous. That's one thing I miss dearly about 80's and 90's anime.
Had to come back and watch this badass scene again, early DBZ is the DB Franchise at its core. The fight choreography, animation and artstyle gives it a more gritty and raw look to it. The attention to detail with the characters muscles, and hand coordination during the fight scenes is absolutely incredible, the ki attacks back then were utilized properly and portrayed as ultimate moves rather than generic moves, which is why attacks like the Kamehameha back in old school DBZ looked a thousand times more devastating than it does in later arcs. Compare this to SSB Kamehameha, massive difference in the look, design, and destructive output. Old school DBZ was more fast paced hand to hand combat base with the ocean dub adding more of it's unique sound effects makes the fights even more intense than they already are. Wish toei would go back to this artstyle and the more traditional animation like they did in the 1990s. Kaioken Goku & Oozaru > over fancy hair colored transformations anyday of the week 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾
1:10 - 2:30 is just so entertaining to watch. So much stuff going on. And I LOVE how the animators portrayed the 3x Kaio Ken, showing Goku flying up to beat the electricity guy while the other guy is flying after getting hit. Incredible. Pete Kalamis knew EXACTLY how to portray Goku across ANY English Dub of the anime.
1:50-2:10 For those that have seen Nozawa's version, Kelamis is actually superior here. Which is incredible. Nozawa's scream right after the Kaio-Ken was actually cut into two screams for some odd reason. Kelamis's scream ADR was carried through.
The Ocean Dub in this movie is so much better than Funimation. Not just because I like Kelamis better as Goku, but because the sound design is so much better. The Kaioken sound effects sound like a damn jet engine going off.
2:03 - Peter Kalamis was great with this one! This was one, _continuous_ kiai. Sean would've needed breaths for this, plus Kalamis sounds like Nozawa during this whole clip!
Honestly, this WHOLE scene craps on Goku vs Beerus.... I mean 1:36 to 1:48 was just....BEAUTIFUL!! Update 12/22/15 Team Four Star is either gonna label this #1 or #2 on their top movies list, so COME AT ME. World Strongest is EPIC.
THAT CLOTHESLINE THO. Seriously... there's a finesse in the choreography and the perception of practical fighting with clear acting and cinematography that makes this sequence fantastic. This is the video I always go to when I try to explain to people why the world loves dragonball z so much. It represents the series at it's best in a lot of ways. Most of the best moments from the series share something with this series in terms of context.
Agree I prefer Shawn's voice, but in these films Peter's voice was better. I wish Funimaton's English dub would re-dub the films and Dragon Ball Season again.
I also like that the ocean dub, like the japanese dub, they are not shouting their KI-ais constantly. You only release the scream / breathe of air at the pinnacle of your strike.
Still the best DBZ movie. And this is still the best dub of this movie. This piece in particular was my introduction to DBZ. Up until then, I'd grown up as a Superman junkie... needless to say, was a wee bit overwhelmed.
Goku from early DBZ has a very monkeyish aesthetic to him, he's always squatting very low, he's very buff but you see little definition most of the time, his ears are huge and there's the way he open his mouth very wide when he's yelling, I really dig it.
Peter Kelamis is fantastic, even though I also love Sean Schemmel's performance, Peter Kelamis was the first voice of Goku I heard, and he's even better than I remembered!😊
Man, Peter Kelamis really nails the _high pitch_ of the screams too, something that Sean, however awesome he may be, could never do. He always sounded gravelly.
I remember the ocean dubs. I was so confused as I also saw Funimation dubs the same time. But man, I miss this old series. Characters actually used martial arts!!!! Now it's nothing but lasers and giant energy balls.
Does anyone else miss the old close combat fighting? Now it's just teleporting around and throwing punches no one can see. DB and early DBZ had it right.
The action in this scene is SOOO crisp. Love how he instantly chooses violence during the staring contest. And the Kaioken is masterfully illustrated
This Goku is the Goku we truly need in super
@@IsaiahStickman that's what I'm saying!!!
Bring back "savage goku" and "vicious vegeta"(like when vegeta krilled the ginyu force)
@@bakionigeri6414 Vegeta isn’t supposed to be vicious anymore, not after the final fight with Buu. This is something Super completely ignores. He admitted his respect for Goku, and moved past his obsession with surpassing him. Vegeta’s motivation for strength and power at that point should be protecting the Earth and his loved ones, not keeping up with Goku. That was one thing GT got right. This was the height of Vegeta’s character growth. Super basically regressed him to his Android/Cell Saga characterization. Goku was never really savage, just smart in battle, and got down to business when he had to.
The animation flows so well.
You're an idiot, everything after cell saga was a mistake and should have never happened. This series is dead now.
Peter Kelamis is the closest we're ever gonna get to a English Japanese Goku.
Masako Nozawa would be proud.
Retro Gaming Guitarist peter kelamis is a great goku
MasakoX says hi.
Him and MasakoX.
@@javierrico1996 My patient wears thin ELDER one
I always thought Kaioken was neater than Super Saiyan, mainly because of the color and because Goku couldn't just spam it. He had to use it strategically due to the time limit.
Exactly. They should of used Super Saiyan only when Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, etc. "snapped". When they lose all control. Oh well. I still love the series.
What are you talking about "spamming" super saiyan? Goku used the kaioken at least two times in this clip.
Ghastly At two different points in the fight. He didn't use it a second time until he got frozen.
CheesyGranola Fine what about the original fight with goku and vegeta? He spammed the hell out of the kaioken. Later in the series they would go super saiyan once and fight.
What about when he fought frieza and used it literally the entire fight
Peter Kalamis, the first guy to pronounce kaio Ken right in the English dub
Seriously, right? Why did the initial Saiyan Saga dub ever get the idea to pronounce it "keh" in the first place? They always called King Kai by his name properly, and it's the same spelling, so this has always been a mystery to me. Didn't the redub of this movie use the wrong pronunciation again? True mystery.
@@teranokitty the TV dub of the movie 3 used the wrong Kaioken pronunciation, but I believe it was done before the pioneer dub of the first 3 movies, since Ian James Corlett is still playing Goku in it.
Also, I think they were just following suit with their pronunciation of Saiyan when they decided to pronounce Kaioken like that. Both are 'wrong' technically, but the common pronunciation of Saiyan is too iconic to change now.
@@AlexanderDiviFilius The Saiyan/Kaioken thing seems like the most likely reason. Good theory, thanks!
It was pronounced right in the Uncut Ocean Dub movies because *Pioneer* were the ones in charge of the script, pronunciations and so on for the Movies. For the main series FUNimation was in charge of that, as well as the TV version of Movie 3, but they split that into 3 episodes for it's initial Syndicated run back in November 1997, so they are considered episodes. It's why you see such a stark contrast between the series and movies for the Ocean Dub. The Ocean Dub Movies have very accurate scripts, and the Ocean Dub Movie DVDs even put the Japanese version on there with subs, which was unheard of at the time.
No it's pronounced kameameaaaaaa
No disrespect to the other voice actors, but Peter Kelamis will always be my Goku.
Plus, I kinda miss how great these older movies were.
Same here. You not the only one.
Right peter is a great goku
I agree. His voice sounds so cool.
I'm with you, and Scott McNeil will always be my Piccolo.
Sean schemel forever
This dub is so freaking nostalgic, love the remastered footage with this dub.
Lmao I love the fact the you're talking about nostalgia while being in the old days....(9 years ago)
@@ssj4edits840 damm ikr
Peter Kelamis was such a great English Goku. No offense to Sean Schemmel but imo Kelamis captured Goku's innocence and nativity so well
I feel he was the perfect "young adult" goku. Sean is the best 35+ goku
@@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER But is Goku physically that old? Because Vegeta claims that Saiyans age slowly. I think Goku is always meant to be young.
He also did Rolf from Ed, Edd, N' Eddy. Which is why rolf did so many DBZ References.
The one thing I Really love from this version is the kaio ken, Kaio ken x3 with the beam struggle It's simply the best also 2:21 OUCH
I agree! I wish they would have used his voice as the classic Goku on dragon ball fighterz...
That Kaioken Scream at 1:50 is so close to the japanese voice actors. I love it.
He really was the first to demonstrate that Son Goku's proper voice can work in English. There are ways to reconcile it, though MasakoX is probably the best example.
Doesn't help that Kelamis was the only one of the early Goku actors to pronounce Kaio Ken correctly. Schemmel would pronounce right later on in Kai, but that was in 2009.
***** Oh, really? Well, I never saw much of Kirby Morrow's Goku, and I can't find much of it...
***** I mostly look for Kai, nowadays. It's my personal preference. But I'd like to see more of the old school Dragon Ball Z. Just to get a glimpse of how it was back in the day.
The Demon King Piccolo Schemmel's Goku in Kai and Super seems to have a more hi-pitched tone to his voice, though.
I seem to recall an interview years back where Peter Kelamis admitted that he knew this was the last of DBZ they'd be doing for a while, and he wanted to try emulating Masako Nozawa's screams and performance. This movie, and the final two episodes of the original Ocean run of DBZ where Goku takes on Recoome and Burter and Jeice, are Peter Kelamis' best moments as Goku.
You can argue over which voice actor is the best Goku overall, but when it comes to Peter Kelamis, this is what peak Peter Kelamis sounds like.
he indeed mentioned it in an interview at geekdom since at the time, ocean studios got the tapes from japan, so kelamis did some studying on how to emulate nozawa's goku and it NAILED TO A TEA 💕💕
@@magururo Sure as hell sounds like it. Would have been awesome if we could get a modern Ocean dub of Kai or even Super with Kelamis at his best, but unfortunately that is more or less just a pipe dream.
This is why you don't mess the son of a shepherd.
Hahaha I'm dead
Right! Lol
+Oscar Jimenez "Peel your onions, Ed-boys, and cry! There is no escaping THE SON OF A SHEPARD!!"
Hello Edboy, many doors yes?
Now I'm imagining Rolf fighting Ed and Eddy exactly like in 1:36 to 1:48
Love how he carries the kaioken at 1:50 into a scream. Something Funi dub never knew how to do. Brian Drummond as a young Vegeta was always the best. "You won't escape my wrath" couldn't be outdone by anything Funi did.
So that what he said thanks
That vegeta scene with that dub is the absolute best voice acting. His voice and a rage factor that is unmatched.
Vegeta fan here
@@illwill1218 Brian is best
My 90s childhood unlocked
Dude I honestly miss the ocean dub voices
I actually really like ocean dub for early Z and some of the movies.
The ocean dub vegeta does the voice of fake vegeta in super
Me and you cause I like it better though that's my opinion.
Broad Strokes ocean dub was perfect for the early movies and early dbz. After freiza funimation is best
the edgiest edgelord that has ever edged same here
This to me is the superior and true version for the worlds strongest. Ocean dub nailed the voices and the music and effects for the movie was spot on.
The music is the original Japanese music.
Radical Richard facts....
i didn’t like the ocean dub for the show, but they were amazing for the movies.
Radical Richard yeah that Funimation dub is horrendous. Couldn’t watch the movie because of it and seems to be the only version available right now.
And the scripting is more accurate than the Funimation version
Slow Clap 👏🏼
1. Ocean Dub Goku voice is closest to Nozawa!
2. The Kaioken Beat Downs!
3. “Im going to fight as long as my body holds out!..KAIO KEN X’s 3!! DAHHHH!”
I'm surprise he didn't pop a muscle or shatter any after going that hard with it.
This is what voice acting is all about. Pure perfection.
KAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIOOOOOOKEEEEEEENNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best Kaioken. Period. Ever. Ocean ftw
I liked "KIOKEN x3!- GAAAAH!!!!!" A bit better
+Otoniel Garcia but that slo-mo though and that little burst of fire like energy right after!
agreed
I'll teach you to mock the son of a Shepard!
I disagree completely.
peter kelamis owned this movie
***** His excuse is that Goku shouldn't be voiced by a woman which makes Sean sound like a dick. Toriyama said himself that he pictures Goku sounding just like Masako.
***** Really? Do you know why that is? Idk but I kind of always felt like Sean was never as nice as we all thought he was.
I heard the reason he didn't like the original was because he felt like Goku wasn't as nice as he is depicted in the English dub. Still, I like Peter Kelamis.
+RisingVictor Nope he's just a rude fellow. He even said the ocean dub version of db Kai will suck for sure.
Emma Frost I see.
I wonder why Ocean still dubs DBZ. I wonder why they need to do that. But that's still rude of him.
I know this thread is old but some comments are missing and i'm curious, who was rude, what exactly made Sean sound like a dick?
Rest well Akira Toriyama.
Holy-- did Peter Kelamis just do a near-perfect impression of Japanese Goku? At 1:50, I thought that was Nozawa Masako for a sec.
Genesis Malakh That is why I LOVE Peter Kelamis and that's why this is my favorite film. It was my first DBZ film I saw and thankfully managed to keep it uncut and retained the kick ass music. I never heard an original Japanese theme before when I was 10 years old then.
***** More like a drastic change in overall style.
+Genesis Malakh Just made my own comment for that before realizing you thought the same thing. Its so sick.
+CrankyHankyPanky Haha, right? Fucking beast! I had to buy the old Pioneer DVD to watch the whole thing again.
Genesis Malakh OMG where did you get it, I have to get it! Just for this movie. This is my favorite film in the series and crazy enough I acually enjoyed the Ocean Dub of it. Other than the fact it was the one I saw first as a 10 year old they actually kept the original soundtrack intact unlike Funimation. Which I thought was stupid.
DBS needs to learn from the old DBZ days, especially the action scenes, we felt the weight of how hard Goku punched, unlike dbs where it is just circles and screaming. I wish we can go back to simplier times like this.
Like the cheeta roar when Goku punched vegeta.
100% agree
Absolutely could not agree more.
@Josiah Pierce well no shit. look how strong they have become now compared to this...
@Josiah Piercequit being a dick
Love how Goku said KAIOKEN and burst out the ice like a badass and the kaioken had a flaming wind sound effect and the fight animations are so smooth and fluid, this is dope.
I'm addicted
Agreed
The movies had a lot more budget to work with than the show, so they look _really_ nice.
Peter Kelamis.
Peter Kelamis sounded almost spot on to Nozawa screaming the Kaio-Ken. IDK why people look down on the Ocean cast. The dialogue was accurate, the music was still spot on, and the voices were great.
@@OnlyGoken people look down on it because they did a terrible job with the anime. These movies were done much better, though.
@@gorrillabishan well duh, but Funimation did both extremely poorly and it took until 2009 for them to correct anything and they get a free pass
@@OnlyGoken Funimation are trash too tbh. Now they have improved a lot but they can still do better. They just don't because they want to please casual watchers or those who grew up with their older dubs more than the real fans of the franchise.
@@gorrillabishan I agree. I still like the Ocean voices and acting itself better for the show, despite the actual dialogue being worse. It's like having Liam Neeson, Jack Nicholson, and Samuel Jackson reading Three Stooges Script seriously, versus The Situation, Andy Dick, and Kristen Stewart reading lines from The Matrix.
NEVER GOT TIRED OF THISS LMAO !! 1:36
THAT CLOSELINE IS FU*CKING BRUTALL!!
You can FEEL that impact.
If DBS even have half of the brutality early DBZ had, it would be pretty fuckin good.
Goku ended that mans whole career.
He closeline the big guy also both were brutal af 😂
How I see both dubs.
Early DBZ: Ocean Dub
Late DBZ: Funimation Dub
True that.. grew up watching DBZ in the 90s, it's like they went through puberty with us, the voices sound younger in the early seasons
Yup, I was first exposed to DBZ in the early Days of Toonami, when they hadn't even released the Funimation dub yet. So up to Goku's fight with Recoome, that is Ocean. From that point on, is Funimation. Just like it was on the show. I am too old to learn to love Kai; I have the Funimation and Ocean scenes burned into my soul.
SilencerRolf i 100% agree ocean dub nailed younger goku perfect in my opinion after namek funimation is great
@@darmocat same. I remember after Goku arrived on Namek they did a rerun from the beginning. Then when we assumed new episodes would air, we got new voices. Vegeta was the most obvious change.
Maybe his voice box got so injured by recoome that when he healed it never did 100% and got even deeper overtime (by super). When he ate the bean, he mentally said ge felt great in old voice not out loud. So jelly vegeta in Super can be like his old younger self trying to come back.
These old blocky designs with the thick sharp edges are the best. I hate the new skinny soft designs in Dragon Ball Super. eff that SHizz.
+Vinny LT That's what I'm saying!! Freaking terrible! This will forever be my favorite movie!
Smh super as a whole is complete garbage
It's nice to know I'm not the only person who feels that way! Speak the truth my friend! lol
100% Agree with this
+Ishida1694 Before I go into an entire monologue, let me just say that as far as I'm concerned, DragonBallZ ended with the Majin Buu saga.
I wished that there are more fight scenes like this in the dbz universe.
how so? what intrigues you so much about this fight?
Jose. It's because it gives you that dbz vibe from the beginning of the series like the epic fight with Raditz. Now it's just flying and shooting powerful key blast at eachother. Instead of seeing more combat on the ground.
ALL Shonen fights should be like this.
Jose Garcia BEcause it's so brutal. You can feel every punch, where as as the series went on, it was more about the spectacle. Sure they were more powerful, but this one just strikes me as far more brutal because he didn't curbstomp the bad guys after getting Super Saiyan 2
@@JoseGarcia-yz3yb the fights look like they actually hurt and have impact
You know how you can listen to an awesome solo, and it just touches your heart and brings a tear to your eye? That's what Peter Kelamis's Goku performance does to me. Everything in this movie just accents moments perfectly. The sound mixing, staging of the scenes, the sound FX, the acting. For me, it is perfect. I wouldn't change anything about it.
SAME HERE idk why but it really has that effect on me
Those bassy impact sounds. It's like I'm being clubbed over the head with the THX logo, and I love it.
I've never gotten goosebumps from hearing him scream Kaioken.
1:50 had me shivering.
tailimaru_x 22 THAT IS MY ASMR 😂😂😂
That reminds me of why I loved this movie so much as a kid…the goosebumps from the voice acting is unreal
God of fire and power of fire
To think this is the same voice actor who voices Rolf in Ed Edd n Eddy. You can hear it in his voice lol
Same Voice Actor
Peter Klamis
is this not the most badass thing ever drawn?
zazazaz when it dawns on you that someone drew all this.
My childhood consisted of the first 3 movies in ocean dub but everything else dbz was in funimation's dub
I think the first 3 DBZ films are the best ones.
I really like how the first 3 movies in the Ocean dub kept the Japanese music and the original dialogue.
HeroicGamer Me too!
HeroicGamer yup
''KAIOKEN X 3 *GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!* “ 2:45
my childhood.
Shits too badass.
Flanker Eagle Goku is the most underrated character. They always portray him as a dumbass but actually he's vicious.
I think he's pretty soft though his fighting ability is NOT! He doesn't have a lot of killing intent compared to some of the people he fought. Perfect type of hero.
***** I thought he was vicious in the lord slug fight when he went bonkers.
FireBomberBassist "That tub of lard was a good warm up but..." Real Goku is vicious. Sean basically turned him into a hero. It's not just funimation censors. Sean had a hand in it.
Holy hell, Goku was a real beast in this film
Mew 2 you And when he went mad during his fight with Lord slug.
ROLF WILL RELEASE HIS RAGE NOW!
TELL ME BRAIN IN A JAR ED-BOY, HAVE YOU EVER EXPERIENCED THE ALMIGHTY THREE KAIO-KEN BEATING!?!?
Shaklahkah!
Life has many doors, Ed-boys!
THE BURDEN OF HOSPITALITY IS TOO GREAT FOR ROLF!
Spino's Gaming Channel They dare disrespect the son of a Sayin?!
Peter was one of the few English actors who really nailed Goku's voice, in my opinion.
This IS Gokus voice, the others are all fakes
LOVE that animation at 1:29 where goku does that move with his hands! So sick. Wish we would've seen more of that creativity in super.
He did a move similar to that in Dragon Ball Super Broly, as Gogeta blue and then he punches Broly
The small details and lighting in OD were amazing. Wasn’t no playing around in ocean dub every one was going for the kill. The artistry was real.
Traditional animation looks so much better than CG animation, but CG animation is way quicker and cheaper so basically nothing is done the old-school way any more. This is true for Western animation as well as Japanese animation.
i absolutely love the funimation dub, but i gotta admit this is probably the best english goku out there, especially with how good his kaioken yell is. sean schemmel's got nothing on peter kelamis
YOU DARE TAKE THE SON OF A SAIYAN!
On the real though I love that his pronunciation of Kaioken is accurate 😌
Peter Kelamis did a good job of portraying Goku here.
While Sean is still my #1 pick, I just can't help but respect him for being able to capture Nozawa's Goku very well.
Watching Super made me appreciate Nozawa's voice work alot, so hearing Kelamis deliver a fantastic performance here
is making me want Kelamis to return in the Bang Zoom dub at the very least.
Adam Alarcon bang what?
I assume they meant Ocean Group, as BangZoom is an American dubbing agency, and Kelamis is a Canadian talent.
@@therandom_dude The Bang Zoom dub was a Los Angeles-based dub of Super that was done by the company Bang Zoom Entertainment for Asian audiences.
The dub has unfortunately been cancelled for a good while at this point, though.
Does Kelamis do anime anymore? That’s why he replaced Ian Corlett, because Corlett didn’t wanna do anime anymore. And Kirby Morrow is of course unfortunately dead, so Kelamis is the only choice left.
I always remembered this movie as having DBZ's best fight sequences.
It really doesn't get much better than this
1:38 Closeline from Hell followed by a SweetChinMusic oh baby
OH MY GOD, HE SAID KAIOKEN RIGHT! I'm starting to see why people like this movie's dub
Kelamis might actually rival Schemel's Kai voice, I'm legitimately impressed.
I bought the dvds of the first 3 movies of this dub it's my favorite dub. Accurate to the JP script using the OG score just like Kai did except most of ocean consists of good people.
Now, you see the best voice acting ever done for Goku.
@@Nate-ll4do Schemel is trash as goku
Biggest reason I loved the ocean dubs, other than all of the dialogue is just... so much better, the emotional range too. Buuuut.. When they are screaming, they are really screaming. While I know the lower toned shouts are healthier throat wise for the recording artists of Funimation, and I would not dare ask them to destroy their own vocal chords and throats for me, it just doesn't have the same feeling. Imagine if Asura's wrath had that funimation even toned yelling stuff.
That was the most and will always be the most epic kaio ken moment when he broke that ice, still get goosebumps from this version.
They used to use it in commercials for DBZ too.
When he did the “Kaioken Kai Break” you could feel the sudden onset of pain in his scream from the stress of using the technique right before the power up kicked in. Def my favorite English dub Goku!
This is the old school DBZ action I grew up with and loved. It's so well done in Ocean Dub. And the animation and action are top notch in this movie
Same here 💯
I can’t stop coming back to watch this-the voice acting is AMAZING! Especially when Goku got hit by the soldiers from all sides! Kelamis really made it sound like it hurt like hell!
So I recently watched the re-dubbed version of the World's Strongest and it just didn't feel the same to me. To go with Gohan's cheesy dream-music being completely different, the ambient music and sounds just wasn't doing it for me. What is one of my favorite DBZ movies all of a sudden just felt like an old show I liked as a kid.
I say all that to bring me up to this point where I'm watching/hearing The World's Strongest as I remember. This put a smile on my face and gave me that flood of nostalgia. Goku's voice being so damn high-pitch but working so great to make him sound like a mad-man when he uses the kaioken, the explosion sound effects, and whirling ambient wind noises of the Kaioken, and the build up of the music when Goku starts casting the Kamehameha on Dr.Wheelo. This is why I love(d) this movie.
There's this division between english speaking fans of Dragon Ball and japanese speaking fans. Japanese fans appreciate that Goku sounds like he always has, that he's voice acted by the same performer since the beginning and that he has the voice of a child even as an adult. English fans, on the other hand, generally prefer a Goku that sounds more like an adult man. Peter Kelamis was perfect because he bridged that gap, giving a voice that is clearly an adult man, but with a youth and innocence that captures what Masako Nozawa gives the character.
I am glad they pronounced Kaioken correctly and it is not "kei-o-ken", it's "kai-o-ken".
this is one time kelamis did right
YOU DARE MESS WITH THE SON OF A SHEPARD!?!?!
Rolf can go Kaio Ken
+RisingVictor YOU NEED TO EAT MORE FIBER, ED BOY! lol
jRex918 LOFL
NO SHEERS FOR YOU POTATO ED BOY! LOFL
+RisingVictor
This has got to be my favorite thread of Comments on UA-cam! ~LMAO~
lmfao omg this is gold
1:38 one of the most brutal hits in DB, imo
Not only is this the BEST voice acting i've ever seen with DBZ, the sound effects are top of the line. This dub is so underrated and overlooked its unbelievable.
goddamn goku was a beast in this movie! this is the goku i love
This was actually the movie that started it all for me been a fan ever since
Imma need new anime fans to come watch how the old school did it. This fight choreography has aged very well💯
Yeah I'm right here, this shit is amazing
Old school anime > Today's anime
His voice should have been brought back for goku black
They tried to, but Sean Schemmel didn't let it happen because he's a little bitch.
@@MP-qf5gg It's cause they knew Kelamis would sound more like the hero than Schemmel could.
@@MP-qf5gg lmfao exactly
i know right! he would’ve done just fine as black 🥺
PhantasmicYouth
Tbh Peter should've been Kakkarot while Sean should've been Kakkarot Black tbh
I don't know why, but I loved that "POWER UUUUUP!" he yelled.
Is that actually the line? I really can't tell.
That gives me goosebumps
Idj what he said but I loved it
Is that what he said?
I loved Ocean’s dub work here the original score and the sound effects are just in perfect harmony. I’d assume you wouldn’t be able to hear Goku because a beam struggle of that proportion would probably be loud as hell!
Seeing the Ocean Dubs of the movies makes me wish they got to dub the series like this, accurate script, no censorships and whatnot. If they didn't have Saban breathing down their necks their dub of the series could have been amazing.
the ocean dub of the ENTIRE dbz is out there. i think over in europe. i'm on the lookout for it
Real question though, is it uncut?
@@mayasharyasharala22 I know I'm one year late but hear is a link to the entire ocean dub of Dragon ball Z from the Saiyan saga to Kid Buu saga. But they never dubbed the frieza saga. :) : mega.nz/folder/WEEGwD4b#wImrVaMHlize_ogLy6nV5g/folder/iYkygZyb
@@knightforge6920 YOU ARE THEEEEE G.O.A.T.!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks for this!
@@mayasharyasharala22 Glad I could help :)
Now that sean schemmel has revealed hos true colors as an asshole I wish theyd bring back peter to voice goku
I want to see the Ocean Dub as a whole come back, which is rumored what's gonna happen by Toei.
@Heyjose25points Never heard of Kelamis as Black? ua-cam.com/video/28xDh9LbSCY/v-deo.html (video is mostly a meme)
You're welcome
Dude Sean is still a good voice actor.
And what does that have to do with Dragon ball
Take that crap away from dragon ball
The background art at 0:58 is so pretty. The art in this film period, is just really gorgeous. That's one thing I miss dearly about 80's and 90's anime.
I love Sean Schemmel to bits, but Peter Kelamis is probably my favorite english Goku.
Had to come back and watch this badass scene again, early DBZ is the DB Franchise at its core. The fight choreography, animation and artstyle gives it a more gritty and raw look to it. The attention to detail with the characters muscles, and hand coordination during the fight scenes is absolutely incredible, the ki attacks back then were utilized properly and portrayed as ultimate moves rather than generic moves, which is why attacks like the Kamehameha back in old school DBZ looked a thousand times more devastating than it does in later arcs. Compare this to SSB Kamehameha, massive difference in the look, design, and destructive output. Old school DBZ was more fast paced hand to hand combat base with the ocean dub adding more of it's unique sound effects makes the fights even more intense than they already are. Wish toei would go back to this artstyle and the more traditional animation like they did in the 1990s. Kaioken Goku & Oozaru > over fancy hair colored transformations anyday of the week 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾
1:10 - 2:30 is just so entertaining to watch. So much stuff going on. And I LOVE how the animators portrayed the 3x Kaio Ken, showing Goku flying up to beat the electricity guy while the other guy is flying after getting hit. Incredible.
Pete Kalamis knew EXACTLY how to portray Goku across ANY English Dub of the anime.
So fucking awesome. Kelamis' Ocean dub battle cries kick ass majorly 🔥🔥❤️🔥💯
1:50-2:10 For those that have seen Nozawa's version, Kelamis is actually superior here. Which is incredible. Nozawa's scream right after the Kaio-Ken was actually cut into two screams for some odd reason. Kelamis's scream ADR was carried through.
Kelamis was so hyped up doing this movie. I swear he came to studio releasing anger or something. Love it!
The Ocean Dub in this movie is so much better than Funimation. Not just because I like Kelamis better as Goku, but because the sound design is so much better. The Kaioken sound effects sound like a damn jet engine going off.
2:03 - Peter Kalamis was great with this one! This was one, _continuous_ kiai. Sean would've needed breaths for this, plus Kalamis sounds like Nozawa during this whole clip!
Honestly, this WHOLE scene craps on Goku vs Beerus....
I mean 1:36 to 1:48 was just....BEAUTIFUL!!
Update 12/22/15 Team Four Star is either gonna label this #1 or #2 on their top movies list, so COME AT ME. World Strongest is EPIC.
and 2:46 to 3:02
Not just craps, it CRAPS A KING-SIZE SHIT ON Goku vs. Bills.
Make that 1:28 to 1:48
THAT CLOTHESLINE THO. Seriously... there's a finesse in the choreography and the perception of practical fighting with clear acting and cinematography that makes this sequence fantastic. This is the video I always go to when I try to explain to people why the world loves dragonball z so much. It represents the series at it's best in a lot of ways. Most of the best moments from the series share something with this series in terms of context.
This isthe dbz i remember growing up wtchin the movies saturday nights on toonami.
i am from germany and the ocean dub is by far the best english Dub. Peter Kelamis fits perfectly to Goku
Agree
I prefer Shawn's voice, but in these films Peter's voice was better. I wish Funimaton's English dub would re-dub the films and Dragon Ball Season again.
I also like that the ocean dub, like the japanese dub, they are not shouting their KI-ais constantly. You only release the scream / breathe of air at the pinnacle of your strike.
KI-ais? What's that?
+RagoziHD It was in the description at the end. It's the shout sound you make, or silent breath you make when you make a strike.
That Kaio Ken x3 followed immediately by that "HHAAAAAA" still gives me chills.
Still the best DBZ movie. And this is still the best dub of this movie. This piece in particular was my introduction to DBZ. Up until then, I'd grown up as a Superman junkie... needless to say, was a wee bit overwhelmed.
phantasmicyouth agreed!
Sadly none of Superman's fights have the knockdown drag out intensity that DB fights have had.
The fury when this Goku shouts. The speed running. The kaio-kens. This is the good stuff gents. This is the legit dbz. Welcome to church.
I love the speed running so much and idk why. And then when Gamma 1 did it in Dragon Ball Super Hero the newest movie I got excited lol
@@nickb6425 you're valid, man.
2:45 one of the best power ups in all dbz
What does he say? It sounds like he's saying "Kaio-ken times 3 YEAH!" or something similar
RagoziHD I think it's more like, "KAIOUKEN TIMES THREE--*PAIN*"
To me it sounds like Kaioken x3 rah
Yoon Baai daaa.....!!!!
Ocean's movies still beat everything that FUNimation had to offer.
hah you lied
I agree. Those first 3 films were absolutely perfect dubs.
@@Tg_Trap_God no that aint no lie that's a fact
Real shit dude 💯
Ocean dub the best brian drummond is way better than chris sabat
A very old style of Dragon Ball that I wish could come back. A Very raw feel
The fight choreography is pure brilliance.
man, you can feel the punches/kicks from the older dbz styles!! these feel like actual fights.
Goku from early DBZ has a very monkeyish aesthetic to him, he's always squatting very low, he's very buff but you see little definition most of the time, his ears are huge and there's the way he open his mouth very wide when he's yelling, I really dig it.
Bro… these are the best Kaio-ken scenes. It gives me goosebumps hearing him scream “Kaio-ken x 3”.
The impact of the hits during this scene cant be matched
Peter Kelamis is my favorite English Goku. I wish we could have gotten a full Ocean Kai dub with him.
Same
Unfortunately, we did not get the dubbing of Ocean Kai Dub
Peter Kelamis is fantastic, even though I also love Sean Schemmel's performance, Peter Kelamis was the first voice of Goku I heard, and he's even better than I remembered!😊
1:52 possibly one of the most badass moments in dbz history
This dub actor is my favorite Goku. He was the first to pronounce kaio-ken properly
Man, Peter Kelamis really nails the _high pitch_ of the screams too, something that Sean, however awesome he may be, could never do. He always sounded gravelly.
I remember the ocean dubs. I was so confused as I also saw Funimation dubs the same time.
But man, I miss this old series. Characters actually used martial arts!!!! Now it's nothing but lasers and giant energy balls.
My favorite English-dub Goku by far
1:38 Solid Closeline !
This the real version i remember so well. Its just too good to forget about.
You meam sean schemmel?
THIS is what brought me into anime.
God! Peter Kelamis did a masterful job!
3:20 = "Po-wur ruupppp!" = power up
After many years... you're welcome
OMG.. Thank you..
Does anyone else miss the old close combat fighting? Now it's just teleporting around and throwing punches no one can see. DB and early DBZ had it right.
Ocean dub is the only one for me
Peter Is the definative voice of Goku for me.
I used to watch this on VHS... that's how old I am
When the only real problem with your dub is superimposed sound effects, it's no competition at all which is the best one.
This Goku is the best Goku you can feel the emotions in the character